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Governor Pawlenty sees the light in the Land of 10,000 Lakes

Earlier this week, the chances of the Vikings staying in Minnesota beyond 2011 were looking not so good.

The Vikings launched a last-ditch effort to obtain $700 million in subsidies, and a spokesman for Governor Tim Pawlenty didn’t react all that favorably.

“Governor [Tim] Pawlenty
believes the Vikings are an important Minnesota institution and asset. 
We want to see the Vikings stay in Minnesota,” spokesman Brian
McClung told the St. Paul Pioneer Press.  “But the state has to prioritize limited resources, and
as we look ahead to the 2010 legislative session, state funding for a
new stadium is not high on the list
.”

Today, Pawlenty was singing a different tune.

“We value the Vikings’ importance to Minnesota — we need to find a
way to keep our Minnesota Vikings
,” Pawlenty said during a weekly Friday morning radio show. 

“They’ve made it clear they’re not going to stay in the Metrodome,” Pawlenty said.  “It’s fair to say the Metrodome has served us well . . . [but] its time
is fading.”

Though the current climate isn’t conducive to the investment of significant public dollars in a facility at which a private entity will perform for an often stiff fee, the guy who currently runs the show realizes that the time has come to solve the problem.

And that’s a great step in the direction of keeping the Vikings from joining the NBA team that once left the Land of 10,000 Lakes for Los Angeles.

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53 Responses to “Governor Pawlenty sees the light in the Land of 10,000 Lakes”
  1. ItalianArmyGuy says: Oct 2, 2009 10:41 PM

    See what one little toss to Greg Lewis can do? A whole new stadium. Wonder if Favre is worth it?

  2. FumbleNuts says: Oct 2, 2009 10:44 PM

    Make it a full-blown outdoor stadium.

  3. lebowski says: Oct 2, 2009 11:02 PM

    All the bluster about the Vikings moving is a joke. They ain’t going anywhere. They’ve got a solid, established fan base and it’s a large enough market with great rivalries. Stop the insanity.

  4. Tdk24 says: Oct 2, 2009 11:18 PM

    We have limited resources because of that stupid light rail. Pawlenty will be running for President in 2012 so I guess he’s trying to butter up the public. He won’t get many MN votes if the Vikes leave the state.

  5. C.Bass says: Oct 2, 2009 11:27 PM

    Umm Lebowski,
    It has very little to do about fan base. Look at Baltimore, Cleveland, and St. Louis. I’m sure they all thought it would never happen. And don’t tell me you’re different. It’s all about money.
    I’m not saying the Vikes will leave Minn, but your reasoning is weak. Fan base doesn’t pay the bills.

  6. Sparrowhawk says: Oct 2, 2009 11:29 PM

    Pawlenty was practicing his political posturing, not making a pledge. $700 million in taxpayer’s dollars is no sure thing during these economic times. The likelihood of Brett completing another last minute hope and poke is more likely than the completion of this kind of public spending for a private enterprise.
    Solid fan base??? Maybe this year, but the cost of this project is going to require a full house into the foreseeable future. Isn’t this the team that couldn’t get a sell out during the playoffs not too long ago?

  7. Doohickey says: Oct 2, 2009 11:31 PM

    Hold on to your wallets, Minnesotans.

  8. JimmySmith says: Oct 2, 2009 11:33 PM

    I am sure all the corporate (3M, General Mills) donors that the Vikings had to lean on the past few years to avoid blackouts are thrilled to hear this news. Their profits are tied in to sellling their own products, not bailing out a sad sack franchise that couldn’t barely sell out a home playoff game (that the Vikings promptly lost my memory is correct)

  9. JuicyMelon says: Oct 2, 2009 11:43 PM

    Pawlenty for President!

  10. leatherneck says: Oct 2, 2009 11:47 PM

    The Packers want the Vikings to leave Minnesota. As do the Bears. The LA Vikings would be re-aligned into the NFC West.
    We must build the stadium to beat the Packers and Bears!

  11. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 2, 2009 11:49 PM

    Pawlenty said during a weekly Friday morning radio show.
    ———-
    He is a politician, simply preaching to the choir.
    Time will tell.

  12. ben says: Oct 2, 2009 11:52 PM

    for all you sad sacks bashing the vikings just stop for this is the only true minnesota team that can win unlike the T wolves or the wild and ect… we need this team to stay in minnesota there the heart of minnesota i would love to share my tax dollars for a stadium!! so for all you with the negative crap take it elsewhere!!! GO VIKINGS

  13. employer says: Oct 3, 2009 12:14 AM

    Vikings will stay in Minny. No way this deal doesn’t get done.

  14. mnmaverick says: Oct 3, 2009 12:16 AM

    The problem in this state is the bleeding heart liberals who want to spend on everything but priorities, not Pawlenty. Tim knows long, cold winters without Viking football would be horrible.

  15. craigja says: Oct 3, 2009 12:30 AM

    Hey Lebowski your response is interesting. It was the same response I gave to the thought of the Browns leaving Cleveland in 1995. This is a business. The NFL and the teams don’t give a darn about the “fan base”. The fans, to be honest, are annoying. They get in the way of making real money. The money is in TV and merchandise. Not in the city the team is in.
    Take the thought of them moving seriously or you’ll be rooting for the LA Vikings.

  16. Heinekenfun says: Oct 3, 2009 12:31 AM

    So why not move the team out of the city and into the probably less expensive suburbs of Minneapolis? I’m sure the Metrodome would be prime real estate for other projects and the land value would/could be cheaper just outside city limits. Build it along a major highway and you’re talking about on/off ramps and minor road developments.
    This is the MINNESOTA Vikings.., not the Minneapolis Vikings. Doesn’t seem like such a big deal to me. Anyone have common sense out there?

  17. Ernie says: Oct 3, 2009 1:12 AM

    lebowski that’s what the Cleveland fans said and before them the Baltimore fans said as well. In this world Money rules. Better pay up minnesota if you want to keep your horns

  18. Twiz says: Oct 3, 2009 1:16 AM

    Gee, maybe now that Lord Florio has said it, some of the dumbazzes out there will finally begin to believe what I have said all along…….
    The Vikings are *NOT* going anywhere!!!!!

  19. doric44 says: Oct 3, 2009 1:32 AM

    just move the team to LA and give Minnesota fans 15 % off tickets when to go to LA

  20. gdog97 says: Oct 3, 2009 1:32 AM

    @Sparrowhawk – I don’t think the Vikings have had a blackout since the early 90′s. They’ve had a few close calls I’m sure, but everyone has. MN always has and always will be a Viking state. They call us the state of hockey, but don’t kid yourself. It’s a Vikings town and always will be.
    @JimmySmith – Don’t act like the corporate sponsors will want them to leave. Major companies like 3M and General Mills have $100k to buy tickets and pass out to their employees to boost morale.
    If as a country we have 700 billion to bail out the very companies that put us in this economic shit hole, we as a state can find 700 million to give to the Vikings. Is it fair that tax payers have to foot the bill or risk losing the team? Of course not. But this is the game that they play. Besides, that money will go back into the local economy and boost construction and local labor which is a good thing. Not to mention the additional boost it will give to the area restaurants and bars. Again, I hate the fact my dollars are going to build a stadium for a guy that wipes his ass with hundred dollar bills. But I don’t want to lose the team either and in this case, the pros far out weigh the cons.

  21. mustbechris says: Oct 3, 2009 1:42 AM

    Tim Pawlenty’s a complete tool. Cross your fingers, Minnesota.

  22. packers4life says: Oct 3, 2009 2:14 AM

    “They’ve got a solid, established fan base”
    That same ‘solid’ fan base, if that’s what you want to call it, couldn’t even sell out their playoff game last season. That alone right there says something.

  23. Bob Nelson says: Oct 3, 2009 4:39 AM

    Then is the problem of explaining the need for a new stadium:
    1) Why should all the taxpayers finance and subsidize the luxury of entertainment of a very small percentage of the population?
    2) Why is a new stadium needed if the new one is smaller?
    3) Why should the state spend more on the vikings than the vikings return in tax revenue?
    4) The state will be stuck with a building that is empty and unused for over 350 days a year that costs more than the vikings are worth!
    5) The vikings have been in their current arena for over 25 years. Why haven’t they been planning and setting aside money for this? Why should the state be responsible for their lack of planning?
    6) The vikings provide no benefit to anyone outside Minneapolis.
    Why should retirees in Roseau, Duluth, and East Fargo be forced to pay for an empty building in Minneapolis?
    7) The University of Minnesota has a nicer stadium and cost the taxpayers far less than the metrodome. They had private investment unlike the vikings. Why?
    Because the vikings have burned their corporate sponsors like General Mills who bought tickets in bailouts to avoid blackouts. They have burned almost everyone they dealt with in the past.
    What companies are left in Minnesota to sponsor the vikings? Honeywell was bought out years ago and 3M has moved most operations to Mexico. The vikings have ignored the state except Minneapolis and training camp site in Mankato.
    Minnesotans have a very poor image of the vikings. Most Minnesotans only see viking players when they appear in court.
    Last year’s playoff game only had 61,000 people and it would have been blacked out except for all the Eagles fans that attended.
    There is no way the voters approval this huge tax increase.
    Besides, in this information age, who really cares if the stadium is in Los Angeles or Mexico City?
    You can still get the game on television even if blacked out locally.

  24. Roboto says: Oct 3, 2009 4:59 AM

    Pawlenty is just another right-wing @$$wipe.

  25. RagnarHater24 says: Oct 3, 2009 6:41 AM

    Jimmy Smith….
    You represent all the idiots that think sports teams aren’t a value. Why the hell are you even on this site?? Losing an NFL team would be an economic disaster.
    Why do you think 3M, GMI and other corporate giants put the money out? The Vikings are part of the state economy.
    Like it or not, but deal with it. If the Vikings leave you and I are going to be paying for an empty Metrodome and unemployment for hundreds of lost jobs.

  26. RagnarHater24 says: Oct 3, 2009 7:27 AM

    Once again Bob Nelson proves he is an idiot.
    Bob, get your facts right.

  27. RagnarHater24 says: Oct 3, 2009 7:44 AM

    @ Bob Nelson…..East Fargo??? Last time I checked Fargo, let alone East Fargo is in North Dakota you moron!
    Are you the dumbest person alive?

  28. Tim says: Oct 3, 2009 7:55 AM

    Well said, gdog97

  29. wintermath says: Oct 3, 2009 8:19 AM

    So Roberto,
    I have you to thank for electing the Marxist we have in POWER right now.
    How about that one million he gave out to go be a cheatleader to the olympic commitee! He could have spent that on the people “he cares for” and the ones that he “created jobs” for…
    I’ll take my rightwing @$$wipes, because at least they won’t triple the federal debt…

  30. Dick Chaney's Dick says: Oct 3, 2009 8:52 AM

    @ RagnarHater24 says:
    “You represent all the idiots that think sports teams aren’t a value. Why the hell are you even on this site?? Losing an NFL team would be an economic disaster … Like it or not, but deal with it. If the Vikings leave you and I are going to be paying for an empty Metrodome and unemployment for hundreds of lost jobs. ”
    You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about. Do some LEGIT research (try http://www.lexisnexis.com) on this topic before you sound like a complete fool.

  31. C.Bass says: Oct 3, 2009 9:03 AM

    Pawlenty is a typical politician who will speak on this subject only when it helps him get votes. I don’t think the Vikes will leave but watch him act all mad if they do.
    How did Minnesota go from Ventura to Howdy Doody for Gov? The guy is a life-long politician who only cares about getting re-elected.

  32. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Oct 3, 2009 9:26 AM

    The proposed stadium looks really nice, but it’s only planned to have 40,000 seats! I would think that the NFL would look at this and say, “Why do we want a team that sees 40,000 as the ceiling?”
    I agree with the posters above who said that they need to go full blown outdoor stadium if they decide to do this. Dome teams just don’t play well in Dec./Jan, it’s a fact. Sure, the Colts did it, but that’s one out of 43 SB’s.

  33. dldavidlong says: Oct 3, 2009 10:31 AM

    it seems simple to me. add or increase a tax to pay for it. then put it up for a vote to let the people decide if the vikings are worth it.

  34. sand0 says: Oct 3, 2009 10:42 AM

    The Vikings sold out the playoff game last season. Why does it really matter that it took all week? We were in a recession.
    The Vikings have a solid fan base, rivalries, org, etc. The NFL wants the Vikings to get a new stadium in Minny. This would make them much more money than moving the team to LA where teams have failed in the past to garner fans.
    Jacksonville makes so much more sense. They don’t even care about the team. Don’t go to games. Don’t sell out every game like the Vikings. No rivalries. Recent expansion team. The NFL would make more money moving that club.
    In the end the most profitable move wins. It just comes down to whether or not they are willing to wait on our politicians. Pawlenty is just trying to stall the issue until he leaves the state to run for President. That is our biggest challenge right now. A lame duck governor that doesn’t care about Minnesota and is more worried about his political future.

  35. Roboto says: Oct 3, 2009 10:46 AM

    Wintermath, you are an idiot. It was right-wing policies and George Bush that got us into all this mess to begin with. Giving all the money to the banks, corporations and tax cuts to the rich. Trashing our economy. Deregulating the financial institiutions. Trashing the world economy and our image around the world. Not to mention lying about a war in Iraq.
    You right-wing, money grubbing, war mongers make me sick.
    Get your facts straight moron.

  36. Filbertkiwi71 says: Oct 3, 2009 10:58 AM

    I prefer outdoor stadiums, but IMO, if Minnesota wants to ever have the Superbowl, then it would make more sense for them to have an indoor stadium. At least that should bring more revenue into the state.
    I would love to see a SB in the cold outdoors, but I don’t believe it will ever happen.

  37. Robert Paulson says: Oct 3, 2009 11:00 AM

    @wintermath,
    or is that ignorant selective math?
    Your right wing asswipes not responsible for the ridiculous national debt right now? Umm, dumbass W dug most of this hole when he took a record budget surplus, and turned it into record debt almost overnight. But at least it was for important things like enormous tax cuts to those who didn’t need it. And a B.S. war in Iraq to help his buddies get obscenely wealthy as we took our eye off the ball and let afghanistan go to shit. Don’t forget the first round of stimulus garbage was Ws baby also, going to try (in vain) to fix a mess mostly incubated by “Saint” Reagan’s deregulation mania.

  38. footballrulz says: Oct 3, 2009 11:23 AM

    C. Bass says
    How did Minnesota go from Ventura to Howdy Doody for Gov? The guy is a life-long politician who only cares about getting re-elected.
    Funny stuff about the Gov. Unfortunately all politicians (with the execption of the Pres) are hoping to be lifelong politicians. If we term limit the Pres why not term limit Congresspersons & Senators. That is one of our fundamental governmental problems in MHO. We just don’t get enough new blood (interpret newe ideas)in the House & Senate and they spend half their time trying to get re-elected rather than dealing with issues. 8 years & gone. Of course, theoretically we should be able to do that as voters. Wonder why that rarely happens?
    Oh crap, sorry, I forgot–this is football.

  39. JimmySmith says: Oct 3, 2009 11:25 AM

    gdog97 says:
    “@JimmySmith – Don’t act like the corporate sponsors will want them to leave. Major companies like 3M and General Mills have $100k to buy tickets and pass out to their employees to boost morale”
    Boost morale? If they wanted to boast morale, they would give them Gopher hockey tickets.
    Maybe its part of the new corporate incentive program, you better start doing your job or else we will force you to go to a Viking game. And if that doesn’t do the trick, they will put them in a room and force them to listen to Childress give his pre game speech.

  40. RagnarHater24 says: Oct 3, 2009 12:26 PM

    @ Dick Chaney’s Dick…..your name says it all. Why would somone name themselves after a senior citizens member? At least you could ask your life partner how to spell the last name correctly.

  41. ncoolong says: Oct 3, 2009 1:07 PM

    “@ Bob Nelson…..East Fargo??? Last time I checked Fargo, let alone East Fargo is in North Dakota you moron!
    Are you the dumbest person alive?”
    Ragnar Hater, he’s referring to Moorhead, Minn., which is directly east of Fargo, N.D. It’s a regional reference, which fit in with his references to other cities outside of the Twin Cities metro area.
    Here’s a tip, don’t try to take people to task on subjects you clearly do not understand.

  42. packers4life says: Oct 3, 2009 1:38 PM

    “The Vikings sold out the playoff game last season. Why does it really matter that it took all week? We were in a recession.”
    Dude. It wasn’t Viking fans that sold out that game. You can thank the Minnesota TV stations for buying the rest of the tickets to avoid a blackout. There are no excuses for a fanbase not to sell out a playoff game either.

  43. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 3, 2009 2:33 PM

    Twiz says:
    October 3, 2009 1:16 AM
    Gee, maybe now that Lord Florio has said it, some of the dumbazzes out there will finally begin to believe what I have said all along…….
    The Vikings are *NOT* going anywhere!!!!!
    —————————-
    What’s the matter, Twiz? Not going to blow the dust of that Kevin Seifert article from March again? Regale us with your theories about how the Mall of America would NEVER enter into a naming rights deal if it’s possible the Vikings would leave.. And leave out the little bit of logic that an LA developer is NOT going to break ground on a new stadium unless he gets a team.
    In your world it’s simply not possible that a Mall would throw a few million dollars away, but a real estate developer in LA would definitely break ground on a $1 billion project with no team to play in it, right?

  44. briano29 says: Oct 3, 2009 4:14 PM

    Hey Bob Nelson: did you know you sort of got ripped by Dan Barreiro on KFAN on 10/2? He read your comments from this site. It was pretty good stuff . . .

  45. jusford says: Oct 4, 2009 10:12 AM

    The Vikings would be building a new stadium in
    Blaine if the Wilf’s weren’t so greedy. The idiot went back to Minneapolis with Blain’s proposel and then Blaine shot him the finger and he’s got nothing now.
    On another note, it’s totally ridiculous that they didn’t build a stadium that would satisfy both the gophers and the Vikings.

  46. jusford says: Oct 4, 2009 10:17 AM

    Vikings would have had a stadium by now, blame Wilf!
    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/11/20/vikes/#
    Anoka County walks away from Vikings’ plan
    by Tom Scheck, Minnesota Public Radio
    November 20, 2006
    Anoka County officials said on Monday that they’re no longer interested in building a Vikings stadium in Blaine, and are ending negotiations with the team. The group made the move after the Vikings agreed to cooperate in a study looking at building the stadium in downtown Minneapolis.

  47. Bigskyvikes says: Oct 4, 2009 5:09 PM

    ncoolong says:
    October 3, 2009 1:07 PM
    “@ Bob Nelson…..East Fargo??? Last time I checked Fargo, let alone East Fargo is in North Dakota you moron!
    Are you the dumbest person alive?”
    Ragnar Hater, he’s referring to Moorhead, Minn., which is directly east of Fargo, N.D. It’s a regional reference, which fit in with his references to other cities outside of the Twin Cities metro area.
    Here’s a tip, don’t try to take people to task on subjects you clearly do not understand.
    ————————————————-
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is never referred to east fargo, I live just north of Fargo and Moorhead, East Grand Forks mn, is east of Grand forks Nd and referred to that. But Moorhead is NEVER referred to east fargo.
    So ncoolong:
    Here’s a tip, don’t try to take people to task on subjects YOU clearly do not understand.
    You guys are idiots looking for something to complain about on the Vikings.
    Bob Nelson, JimmySmith, do you guys have anything else to do, talk about mindless comments just to spew your hate to the Vikings, sad actually.
    Any takers on a wager to whether the Vikings leave Mn, I will take any bet, they are staying, put your money where your mouth is!

  48. Bigskyvikes says: Oct 4, 2009 5:17 PM

    packers4life says:
    October 3, 2009 1:38 PM
    Dude. It wasn’t Viking fans that sold out that game. You can thank the Minnesota TV stations for buying the rest of the tickets to avoid a blackout. There are no excuses for a fanbase not to sell out a playoff game either.
    ————————————————
    Well just to point this out for your lame ass, I was at the game, and there wasnt an empty seat in the house!
    How they sold it out, does it really matter?
    It was full, they lost, that season is over.
    This is the season you should be concerned with.
    Can’t wait for the player you hicks all gave up on, make you look like a high school team.
    Whether it be Monday, or the end of the season!
    Stay on a Packer article, than you hicks can talk bad about the Vikings together and not worry about itelligents getting in your way.
    This is our year!!
    This is our year!!

  49. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 4, 2009 8:23 PM

    Bigskyvikes says:
    October 4, 2009 5:17 PM
    Well just to point this out for your lame ass, I was at the game, and there wasnt an empty seat in the house!
    How they sold it out, does it really matter?
    It was full, they lost, that season is over.
    This is the season you should be concerned with.
    Can’t wait for the player you hicks all gave up on, make you look like a high school team.
    Whether it be Monday, or the end of the season!
    Stay on a Packer article, than you hicks can talk bad about the Vikings together and not worry about itelligents getting in your way.
    This is our year!!
    This is our year!!
    ————————-
    Wow. This post is like a perfect storm.
    You’ve got a guy from Grand Forks, MN referring to others as “hicks”. Then the same guy tries to make others look stupid in referring to their “intelligents”. Unbelievable. Usually people this stupid know they’re stupid.

  50. Bigskyvikes says: Oct 4, 2009 9:45 PM

    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    October 4, 2009 8:23 PM
    ————————-
    Wow. This post is like a perfect storm.
    You’ve got a guy from Grand Forks, MN referring to others as “hicks”. Then the same guy tries to make others look stupid in referring to their “intelligents”. Unbelievable. Usually people this stupid know they’re stupid.
    ————————————————–
    Well again, intelligents lacking, Grand Forks, ND
    not MN.
    Are you saying Wisconsin is not hick compared to Grand Forks??
    Wow that makes me laugh uncontrolably.
    Just keep parking your cars on your lawn by your six broken down lawnmowers three tore apart trucks, and a brand new snowmobile.
    Hick……………………………….hahahaha
    I lived in wisconsin for three (long) years trying to get a car dealership out of the hick way. Usually takes a year, three there.
    How long have you lived up north in Mn??
    Experience knows best. I’m done with you…….

  51. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 5, 2009 2:16 PM

    Bigskyvikes says:
    October 4, 2009 9:45 PM
    Well again, intelligents lacking, Grand Forks, ND
    not MN.
    ——————–
    Whoops, sorry. You’re a whole 100 yards west of Minnesota. My mistake.
    ——————–
    Bigskyvikes says:
    October 4, 2009 9:45 PM
    Are you saying Wisconsin is not hick compared to Grand Forks??
    ————————–
    I’m saying people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. And your house has a very high glass content.
    ————————–
    Bigskyvikes says:
    October 4, 2009 9:45 PM
    Wow that makes me laugh uncontrolably.
    Just keep parking your cars on your lawn by your six broken down lawnmowers three tore apart trucks, and a brand new snowmobile.
    Hick……………………………….hahahaha
    I lived in wisconsin for three (long) years trying to get a car dealership out of the hick way. Usually takes a year, three there.
    How long have you lived up north in Mn??
    Experience knows best.
    ————————–
    I’ve never lived in northern (or otherwise) Minnesota. I knew better than to do that. Anyway, why did you bring that up? I thought you were in North Dakota. Let me know if I’m going too fast for you here.
    I have two cars, both of which I park inside (imagine that, a house for my cars). I have one lawnmower, but it’s not broken down. And I have no “tore apart” trucks or snowmobiles.
    And I have no idea what you’re talking about in referring to getting a “car dealership out of the hick way.” I’m sure there’s a Grand Hicks to English dictionary somewhere on the internet, but I’ve been unable to find it.
    ————————–
    Bigskyvikes says:
    October 4, 2009 9:45 PM
    I’m done with you…….
    ————————–
    Now you’re hurting my feelings.

  52. Bigskyvikes says: Oct 5, 2009 5:18 PM

    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    October 5, 2009 2:16 PM
    Gain, the itelligents issue. WOW!!
    I never said I lived in Grand Forks, I said I lived north of Fargo, you should read back before you make more of an ass out of yourself.
    Do I need to spell out what north of Fargo can mean?
    God I hope not, I need to get ready for the Packer thrashing tonight, GOODBYE!!
    Ready for 2-2 than a repeat season as last year?

  53. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 7, 2009 6:50 PM

    Fargo? Really? Wow. There’s a city with a claim to fame.
    I didn’t even know there was anything north of Fargo. Wait a second. I just checked a map. There isn’t anything north of Fargo.

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