Brady Quinn’s potentially costly benching has a variety of causes, but one unnamed offensive Browns teammate boiled it down to essentials to ESPN.
The teammate said Quinn was “probably too careful and definitely too mechanical.”
Essentially, Quinn is playing it too safe on a team that requires some risk-taking. Quinn’s completion percentage is high, but he was taking too many sacks and almost never looking down the field.
We have our doubts that Derek Anderson will be better, but Quinn has to be wondering what he’s done to get called out twice in one week. The rapper Common, still trying to regain his Be-era mojo, also piled on Quinn at a Cleveland House of Blues appearance this week.
During a freestyle, Common rapped that he “Won’t mess up like Brady Quinn.”
Which is pretty awesome considering Quinn was in the crowd with a few teammates.
At least Common, unlike the teammate, had the decency to go on the record.
PLEASE turn off the automatic refresh. I was trying to read something, and not only did you interrupt me, you put up yet another Brady f–king Quinn post.
STOP THE AUTOMATIC REFRESH.
Quinn is just another in a long line of pretty boy QBs who’s not hungry enough because he’s already made a ton of cash.
good to know they are 0-3 and out at a club
He is a clue go study films learn the play book earn your pay check
These players do not even pretend to care sitting in a club when the season is almost lost to them.
Doubt Eli, Tom, Payton or Drew were out clubing this week
You go to camp then you have 16 weeks to perform why not stay home and work on your game
I have never seen a more follish group then players in the NFL 16 weeks stay out of clubs is that to much to ask
I’d still take Quinn over JaBroni Russell. We need safe decision maing around Oak-Town.
LOVE IT. But Common has nothing on Wale.
“I never back up like Cleo Lemon on myself.” and “I’m no Vince Young I did superb on the Wonderlic.”
HIP HOP!
Brady was tentative because he was on a short leash. He may still have sucked, but the reality is that he didn’t have enough time to establish himself as the leader of that team. Too bad for Browns fans, because Anderson had his shot last year and blew it.
Common doesn’t have to play on the same team as Quinn, so he had no reason not to say what he thinks openly. Of course a TEAMMATE would have to remain anonymous. It has nothing to do with decency, it has to do with having something to lose.
Quinn has a case of ‘Jason Campbell Syndrome’ which is where a QB refuses to stretch the field for fear of throwing an interception. The most aggrivating thing about it with Quinn is that he CAN throw deep balls, hes got the arm strength and accuracy, but apparently he isn’t confident enough to do it. Derek Anderson has no such issue and so with him starting the Browns offense at least has the potential of creating some big plays downfield.
The teammate said Quinn was “probably too careful and definitely too mechanical.”
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He was out for most of last year so you can consider this his rookie year if you go off time played.
Rather have a smart QB than a gunslinger who consistently turns the ball over.
Maybe he was referring to Quinn’s idiotic holdout.
As a Ravens fan and someone who watched last week it was ridiculous they benched Quinn…I honestly felt bad for the guy, the coaching staff should be benched…Anderson only did worse…So is Quinn gonna be back if Anderson doesn’t light it up this week…Good to see division foes with horrible coaching though!
Maybe put the “rap report” in a separate column or something so we can enjoy it by itself.
Just trying to be helpful.
“PLEASE turn off the automatic refresh. I was trying to read something, and not only did you interrupt me, you put up yet another Brady f–king Quinn post.
STOP THE AUTOMATIC REFRESH.”
Amen brother.
Annoying as hell–used to keep the site open in its own tab, but since the auto-refresh crap started I just check the RSS in google reader. You’re sacrificing page views here, PFT.
Might consider fixing the #$*&ing login error already, too.
“As a Ravens fan and someone who watched last week it was ridiculous they benched Quinn…I honestly felt bad for the guy, the coaching staff should be benched…Anderson only did worse…So is Quinn gonna be back if Anderson doesn’t light it up this week…”
A reasonable Ravens fan? What is this world coming to?!
To answer your question, yes, Quinn could be back at any time. Mangini didn’t name DA the starter for the year, indicating it could change based on the opponent (or within a game, of course.)
So now the Browns will have *two* QBs looking over their shoulder, waiting to get the hook.
Man-genius, indeed. Browns fans’ best hope is 0-8 capped by a Butch Davis-style resignation at the bye. Unfortunately, though, with the way The Randolph runs the organization, Mangini/Kokinis will get huge contract extentions as a reward for winning a game or two.
Not sure what people are talking about with the automatic refresh or login error. I do not have either of these problems. PFT never refreshes on its own and it’s not that I have refresh by site turned off. Certain other sites still refresh on their own.
Florio had it right. Need to trade or release one QB.
Anderson had confidence because of his Pro Bowl year. Which should make other teams think they can get a similar year from him. Some one will take him. So…
DO IT! TRADE HIM! I DARE YOU!
Hey George, you don’t want to be seen as a push over for Mangini do you? Walk into his office and say “I got tired of all the wish-wash BS so I just trade DA for a bag of donuts. Want one?” Go ahead do it. And if he gives you any lip tell him you will fire him faster than Randy Hanson hitting the floor.
If Quinn was playing for another team he would be VERY solid.
I hope he gets traded from that laughing stalk of a team.
No matter what anyone thinks of the Browns, or Quinn, you have to admit that the guy has not been given a fair chance. The Browns were going nowhere anyway, why not let the guy play out the season and see if he gets any better. Peyton Manning, John Elway, and others also looked bad their first year. Maybe Quinn will never get any better, but now we will never know. I don’t think that there is a quaterback in the league that could make that offense work. There is no talent on that team, period. If there is a bad personnel move to make, the Browns will make it. I have been a fan of the Broowns for 35 years, and This is the worst they have ever looked. Randy Learner needs to sell that team to Dan Gilbert.
If I were the Bengals, I would rush six guys every play, and drop five back into coverage. Anderson will then throw ten picks.
I can’t really blame Quinn for being playing it so safe. I think when you have such a short leash that tends to happen.
If you aren’t going to give a guy a whole season at least give him a game or two to know that if he digs himself a hole he will be allowed to try to play himself out of it with his teammates.
At the current rate it can be a long season for Brown fans if they have to constantly deal with QB switching everytime a QB has a bad half.
Man Genius (yeah right) has to take a long enough look at one Qb to see what he actually has before he benches him.
Who the hell is Common anyway???? Never heard of him.
Why is it when one of these dumbass rappers says something ,it’s news?
Something tells me he is a wanna-be or else he would’nt be hanging out in Cleveland,Ohio.
Any football news tonight?
pretty funny reading all these Quinnbots STILL making excuse after excuse for why his chance to start resulted in epic failure. It’s everyone’s fault but his, right?
# Bigbluefan says: October 3, 2009 2:51 PM
good to know they are 0-3 and out at a club
He is a clue go study films learn the play book earn your pay check
These players do not even pretend to care sitting in a club when the season is almost lost to them.
Doubt Eli, Tom, Payton or Drew were out clubing this week
You go to camp then you have 16 weeks to perform why not stay home and work on your game
I have never seen a more follish group then players in the NFL 16 weeks stay out of clubs is that to much to ask
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Any chance you could ask your teacher to help you with your posts?
“No matter what anyone thinks of the Browns, or Quinn, you have to admit that the guy has not been given a fair chance. The Browns were going nowhere anyway, why not let the guy play out the season and see if he gets any better. Peyton Manning, John Elway, and others also looked bad their first year.”
Exactly. The jury’s still out on Quinn. He’s being judged on four games last year… three in which he played with a broken finger on his throwing hand, which required surgery to correct–difficult to fairly judge him under those conditions. And two and a half games this year.
Peyton Manning’s first year: 3-13.
Peyton said he learned more by being left in the game during those blowout losses, and talks about how it contributed to his growth. Mangini (and the knee-jerk fan crowd) would have benched the (arguably) greatest quarterback this decade.
I LOVE it. He goes out to a club and is insulted by the act on stage in front of his friends. TOO funny!! And even one of his teammates speaks up with the truth.
These are the kinds of things that happen when you name a starter based on girls (and guys, apparently) thinking he’s “the cute one” instead of who can actually move a football down a field.
And for all the apes who just repeat the mantra that DA does nothing but throw INTs, let me make a few “excuses” (an increasingly familiar term to Quinn fans) for Anderson’s last several outings:
2009: He sees his very first action after being thrown into a game unexpectedly when down by nearly 3 TDs and is asked to throw throw throw right out of the gate against one of the top defenses in terms of takeaways. One of those INTs occurs when the receiver is held but the hold is not called.
2008: After the bye week, DA starts 4 more games before being benched. Over the course of those 4 games, he throws ONE interception, SIX TDs, has ZERO fumbles and ZERO sacks. Funny how he totally cleaned up his act over those 4 games but got benched anyway. Politics, anyone?
(Isn’t it great how these moronic revisionists who blab about DA being nothing but an INT machine in 2008 seem to conveniently ignore the fact that he only threw one INT in a 4 game span before he was benched? The facts would get in the way of them strokin’ it to the dandy boy who wears #10.)
2007: 29 TDs, 15 INTs. That’s an average of less than one INT per game.
To summarize: A more than respectable INT ratio in 2007, a huge improvement and only one INT in the post-bye games leading to his benching in 2008, and 3 INTs going in cold for the first time this year while being forced to throw constantly against a team that picks off more passes than just about any other. Not to mention the hold that wasn’t called on one of them. It should have been 2 INTs.
But hey, don’t let the facts get in your way, Quinnbots. Just keep repeating to yourself, “DA does nothing but throw INTs and is completely erratic from one game to the next.”
As for me, I’d rather put up 20 or 30 points in every game, actually be in a position to win some of them, and take a chance on the occasional INT than watch Brady give us NO chance at all because he’s too chickenshit to throw into coverage… not double coverage or triple coverage- just coverage.
Send that pussy back to male modeling school.
Hey trickbunny
With a screen name like that I wouldn’t be calling anybody a pussy
Who did you want Cleveland to draft a their QB?
Troy Smith? What a stellar career he’s had!
Quinn has too much class for fans like you.
You’re just a Ohio red-neck who probably never saw Quinn play at ND
For all you out of towners…do you see almost ever Browns fans handle has something to do with Bernie Kosar? (#19). THAT’S BECAUSE THAT IS THE LAST GOOD QUARTERBACK WE’VE HAD!!!!!!!!! Good god, if someone could come in and play for more than a year, maybe we can stop living 20 years ago!
Neither guy is the answer. Quinn is timid and holds the ball forever while seeing nothing downfield. He either takes a sack or throws it underneath. Defenses don’t respect him and crowd the box, diminishing what little running game Cleveland has. His accuracy is extremely poor as well. Anderson is a classic case of “million-dollar arm, 2 cent head”. He can look great on some throws downfield and can get hot at times, but a completion % below 60 in extended play (2+years) shows he can not be a consistent winner. Doesn’t help that he is has a fragile psyche.
Lack of offensive talent does neither guy any favors, by Anderson gives them a better chance to at least win a couple games.
Browns will have to take their lumps this year and hope to pick the right guy (for a change) next year in the QB-rich draft. What’s new…
“Not sure what people are talking about with the automatic refresh or login error. I do not have either of these problems. PFT never refreshes on its own and it’s not that I have refresh by site turned off. Certain other sites still refresh on their own.”
Leave the main “Latest News & Rumors” page open, and it will periodically refresh to show new articles posted. Started happening recently, though I couldn’t pinpoint a date. It doesn’t happen on the comment threads, just the main page.
As for the login error, I’ve been seeing that ever since PFT merged with NBC. Never on the old site, only here. It always says you’re logged in, then you go to post a comment and it gives you an error message, saying you have to be logged in to post. Figured the settings were changed to expire the login cookie after a period of time, but the problem is the site tells you you’re logged in… then proceeds to give the error message.
I don’t comment much or often, so perhaps it doesn’t affect frequent commenters? (not sure how often you post, DanSnyder, just grasping at straws.)
If you’re not seeing the same behavior, then perhaps it’s not universal. But I see it on the home desktop, the work laptop, whatever, and it happens regardless of browser (at least between Firefox and Chrome, I don’t touch IE.)
Quinn is another “bomb” drafted by the Cleveland Browns, their legacy lives on.