Comments on: A final thought on Harrison's comments

By: this class sucks

this class sucks — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:56:35 +0000

@whywerule
Your a moron, of course every player and coach asks for a flag my point was that it appears high profile players (and coaches) seem to get the flags when they want them.
@outfoxed
I see your point about replay making the game to slow. It is certainly a fine line because you don’t want the game to take 4 hours but you also want to get the maximum number of correct calls. I think making more penalties “challenge-able” would help get more calls right, and would slow down the game if the coaches were allowed only 3 challenges at the most (if they got the first 2 correct).

By: AmishGangsta

AmishGangsta — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:26:14 +0000

I’m a Colts fan but, I’d like to add this-Ray Lewis and all his crying buddies need to stfu and take their beating like men. You lost-get over it, move on and hope you see them again.
Heck, blame Mason or Clayton, whoever dropped that 4th down pass, you could’ve won the game on that drive.

By: coachglove

coachglove — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:30:22 +0000

As I watched the Texans dismantle the Raiders yesterday I was left to wonder how come some rules seemed to be enforced so sporadically. Tom Brady barely gets touched by Suggs on the way by and gets 15…Russell gets a hard shot to his head right in front of the ref and no call. The Raiders got called for celebration after a pick in the endzone because the player got on his knees and lifted both arms torwards the sky, by himself, for less than 3 seconds…yet the Texans celebrate a TD with a full on dance and don’t get called. As a fan of the game, I don’t mind ridiculous calls as much as the lack of consistency in making them. Its like the strike zone in baseball…as long as the players have a chance to adpat to a particular ump’s zone, then I have no problem with it…if that ump is calling the same pitch a ball for one team and a strike for another then there is a big issue.

By: WNYhell

WNYhell — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:06:59 +0000

Nice 180.

By: Shadenfreuder

Shadenfreuder — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:56:14 +0000

Rosenthal, nice job. You deliberately take the comments out of context and run it to get web hits. Then you remember that you may run into Harrison at work sometime and scramble to cover your yellow ass. Nice try trying to have it both ways. YOU need to get a dress.

By: Route36West

Route36West — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:18:35 +0000

I agree just a joke. But its funny Florio you think this is a joke but when Steve Smith tells Jake Delhomme he’s ugly and he never liked him as a QB he’s being serious. But because it had nothing to do with you you tried to make it into this huge grudge match. You tear ESPN apart for how they do special treatment but your doing to same thing. If this wasn’t on NBC or about Brady you would be on the front line of turning this thing into a conflict. Hopefully NBC’s ombudsman will comment on PFT seeing that your part of the family.

By: Football Fan

Football Fan — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:46:22 +0000

There are numerous ways to tell someone to get tough than by denigrating women. Regardless of his intention, whether joking or whether the calls were bad, he insulted a huge audience on national television. My jaw literally dropped open when I heard him say that. And, as another commenter stated, during the month the NFL is honoring breast cancer victims and survivors! Rodney needs to apologize to his audience not Tom Brady!

By: SmackMyVickUp

SmackMyVickUp — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:46:05 +0000

He could barely finish what he was saying with a straight face. Huge grin right after gave it away. Chuckled right after that for icing on the cake.
Rodney’s been fined more than any player in the history of the NFL so I can understand why he’s sensitive to cheaps shots on the quarterback.
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Ziiiing. Harrison can’t let this one go unanswered. I kinda look forward to mini-grudge matches, I thought that is why former players were picked up to comment?
They suck trying to analyze anything.

By: dashoe

dashoe — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:36:43 +0000

The only thing more pathetic than that BS call is Gregg Rosenthal’s “damage control” post.

By: footballnut

footballnut — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:24:19 +0000

I don’t care for the ticky tack fouls either, but it is not the reason why the Ravens lost.
This happened to the Pats twice in the Bills game, which extended drives that the Bills scored points on, but who ended up winning?
Point is that the Ravens received the very same call against Mike Wright with under 3 minutes in the game and the Ravens had their drive extended. The big difference is the Pats D overcame it, with a little help from Clayton.
That’s why the Ravens lost. Get over it, you lost, learn from it…Now I know why Steelers fans can’t stand the Ravens. They whine after every loss…

By: stanjam

stanjam — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:17:05 +0000

Two of the calls were pretty petty, one to each side. Suggs was a good call, as Suggs was going for Brady’s knees. He should have been flagged, fined, and even suspended. The poor attitude on the part of the Ravens was sad to see. It all flows from the head coach, who couldn’t control himself all game. You could see how the game was going to go penalty and whining-wise right from him. He got a penalty after saying some obviously nasty things to a ref. You can’t do that and expect them to change calls for you. Refs don’t intimidate or retaliate, but if you insult them, it is human nature to not want to help you.
Lewis is crying about refs. Like a politician complaining about drugs or infidelity, you can believe that is because he is guilty. He was playing dirty all game, at one point trying to spear a quarterback who was sliding. He went in low after the slide started, and tried to spear Brady’s back. Nasty play. After this game I can’t help but believe that Suggs and Lewis (the two biggest whiners after the game) are nothing but dirty players.
Hey guys, try being at least a bit classy after a game. Admit that your “great” offense was held to 14 points by the Patriots D. Admit that your “elite” defense couldn’t stop the Pats offense all game, and couldn’t keep them out of the end zone.
I guess you guys don’t “do” class.

By: Bill Cowher's Chin

Bill Cowher's Chin — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:14:49 +0000

A couple of years ago, Vince Wilfork was pushed from behind, and fell in the direction of JP Losman’s knees. Wilfork took advantage of his positioning, and extended his elbow to take a shot at Losman’s knee. Everyone got all up in arms, saying Wilfork is dirty, blah blah blah…….
Now, Terrell Suggs takes a shot at Brady’s knees, and all of a sudden it is a blown call????? I dont get it. It was a legit call on Wilfork 3 years ago, and it was a legit call on Suggs yesterday.
I, like Harrison, and apparently Ray Lewis, dont like the rules, but the rules were enforced correctly. I dont agree with the rules, but it was enforced the right way, get over it

By: FloriosHairHat

FloriosHairHat — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:14:39 +0000

“The next time Harrison wants to give one of his buddies the business on-air, though, he may want to make absolutely sure the viewer is in on the joke.”
…and the PFT reporters as well.

By: birdmancometh

birdmancometh — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:07:03 +0000

FLORIO! You do realize that if this was from another network you would be saying something to the effect of “Harrison has since said that he was just joking, but we remain sceptical. Look for this to continue to grow into something bigger.”

By: FireJerryJones

FireJerryJones — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:55:45 +0000

Dude… Gaither was beat and was HOLDING on the play. No flag. Anyone can see that.
Whether the DE can stop himself from hitting the QB at that point is pretty debatable.
You try pulling up at that point. Try seeing the whole game and stop moaning. Ravens have a real problem with mental breakdowns. I’d be worried if I was a fan. At crunch time, they implode and start blaming the ref.
Mike Wright was called for a ticky tack foul at 2:37 left in Q4. Fifteen yards there.
Mr. Budchen whined enough to get a flag on Suggs. I didn’t see anyone around Suggs… not sure why he was that low to begin with.

By: PFTiswhatitis

PFTiswhatitis — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:54:57 +0000

Maybe you missed Mike Wright getting flagged for hitting the QB when it was an obvious sack? When crap like that happens you will be willing to take whatever calls come your way.
Oh and isnt it funny how the Ravens cant control themselves? Thats twice they’ve played the Pats and LOST at least in part due to not being able to control themselves. LOSERS.

By: Krow

Krow — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:22:04 +0000

What was really pathetic was watching Mr. Bundchen jumping around and begging the refs for the call. That was such an incredible pussy act. Yeah, put a skirt on him.

By: chief

chief — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:18:08 +0000

was he joking when he intentionally dove at Trent Green’s knee before the 99 season. The league doesn’t even know who Kurt Warner is if Rodney Harrison doesn’t take the cheap shot on Green’s knee.

By: Ken1313

Ken1313 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:05:57 +0000

FYI : Harrison TEXTED Brady ahead of time and told him what he was gonna say…again..as I said last night….he was making a point to the NFL…..and just playing around with Brady.
…the Patriots were flagged questionably in earlier games (specifically the Jets game) on the very same call…..it’s in the rules now….and every player in the NFL should understand…if you even attempt to tackle by driving or diving at the QB’s knees…you are gonna get flagged…whether intentional, pushed…or by accident…… Again..it’s only an issue when it happens in the Patriots’ favor……,then the haters and jealous ones have to chime in yelling that the Patriots get preferential treatment….you are ridiculous

By: Outfoxed

Outfoxed — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:02:25 +0000

# this class sucks says: October 5, 2009 6:25 AM
So I think with this more things need to be “challenge-able.”
Getting back to the the basics of football. It is a GAME played by real people. In the interpretation of rules made by any human there will be error when a decision is made.
Now I was a proponent of instant replay when it first came out. The technology was available and reduced the possibility of human error in referee’s interpretations.
Where do we draw the line? Should we stop and review each play to make sure the right decision was made? You can see from the replays that you can not always see what really happens as informative camera angles are not always available or players are in the way as they pile on each other etc. Heck, how any times do you see the announcers differing on their interpretations of the replays or what you thought was fact from a replay was interpreted differently by the judges upstairs?
Football is an wonderful game played by imperfect people and wrong calls will be made randomly regardless of the level of technology available.
To protect the integrity and fluidity of the game, I strongly suggest we keep the limited use of replays as it is, sit back and enjoy the game within the 3-hour time-frame, and accept the game as did the fans during the 50′s and 60′s as the game became more popular.
Has anyone watched how much more use of the instant replay is being used in college this year? Do you want the pro game to become as annoying?

By: ARBoost

ARBoost — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:01:57 +0000

How about the play were Gaither got hurt and there was no Roughing the passer call. Flacco was hit like 3 seconds after he released the ball and a player was hurt on the play too. Those Patriot Refs were at it again.
Please watch this video and you be the Judge/Ref :http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d813210c2&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true.

By: JoeWilly

JoeWilly — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:52:06 +0000

This isn’t complicated. The NFL should just legalize intentional grounding inside the tackles- that way it’s up to the QB to protect themselves and the game can go on the way it should be, without ref interference except when necessary. The QB would have to decide whether the coming hit is worth burning a down and risking the INT from trying to throw it away.
As much as I agree that the rules are going too far, it does bug me how disingenuous these defensive players are since they don’t have to stand still, looking downfield, while people fly towards them, trying to kill and maim them- it’s not the QB is “any old player.” The problem is these guys are paid to go all out and often treated like bums and thrown away when they don’t perform- so now we’re asking them to slow down and think before they make a hit?

By: TheBigOldDog

TheBigOldDog — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:46:52 +0000

Rodney Harrison: Titans, Kevin Mawae are ‘Classless’
“That’s a very classless group of guys, starting with Kevin Mawae, who is definitely one of the dirtiest players I’ve ever dealt with. I remember when he took Richard Seymour out,” Harrison said. “He intentionally tries to hurt people. A guy with that much talent, it’s terrible that he has to do things like that, and it rubs off on other guys. It’s disappointing because I don’t think [coach Jeff] Fisher encourages that. I’ve played Tennessee before and it wasn’t like that.”
Harrison is angry about the knee injury he suffered in the season finale against the Titans, which forced him to miss the playoffs. Harrison says on that play, Titans receiver Bobby Wade intentionally dove into his knees while blocking him even though they were nowhere near the ball at the time. Harrison says he will be back in 2007.
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Oh, Come on Rodney! Toughen up!

By: whywerule

whywerule — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:46:41 +0000

…If you have an real arguments or additions to any of my points please respond but don’t sit there and bitch that I said a player you like has the refs throw flags.
My “addition” to your point, and my bitch, is that every player and coach in the league requests flags in the course of the season. You singling out just a handful of players, whether you like them or not, appears to be absurd and irrational. OTOH, it may just be that you do not watch much NFL football. Some times players and coaches get the flag they are requesting, more often they are ignored by the refs.

By: Kidekk

Kidekk — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:45:20 +0000

“The next time Harrison wants to give one of his buddies the business on-air, though, he may want to make absolutely sure the viewer is in on the joke.”
The only person that needs to make it clear is the person on this site that wrote the article and left out the part about him failing to keep a straight face and breaking into laughter. I don’t know if whoever wrote that actually watched the segment, or just heard it second hand and just wrote down what was said without any context, but the only reason why people on this site (commenters) got it miscontrued was because you guys left it out. You guys need to admit that you should have included it in the first place instead of saying Rodney Harrison needs to make it clear that he was joking, considering you guys thought that Steve Smiteh wasn’t joking when he was talking to Delhomme. You guys are weird: you include humor in your articles, but consistently fail to recognize the simplest forms of it.
Wow.

By: tv

tv — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:24:42 +0000

He is right.
The NFL gets more like a game of no rush the QB touch football everyday.

By: afogg0855

afogg0855 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:17:17 +0000

When the Ravens lost to the Pats in 07 all they did was wine and complain after the game about officiating that time too!!
The rules are the same for both teams! Pats got called twice for the same penalty and when the game was on the line, your recievers couldnt nut up and catch the ball…
Baltimores got a GREAT team, but they need to man up and learn how to accept a loss

By: Florio-is-a-tool

Florio-is-a-tool — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:16:08 +0000

Dude, the only ones who could possibly get confused about the joke are idiot reporters. Do you think Gregg? There’s a reason people understand reporters usually operate at full retard.
Here’s a suggestion Gregg – don’t be stupid. Why have final recap which just tells people AGAIN you’re clueless in regards to anything dealing with wit? My head is still shaking at your last sentence.

By: whywerule

whywerule — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:12:16 +0000

refs did blow the call….
No the refs did not blow the call…any one of the three calls. Ngata hit Brady on the head with a forearm while rushing him; that is supposed to be an automating roughing the passer call, and the refs made the call. Suggs dove at Brady’s knee in a blatant attempt to injure Brady; Brady was able to avoid most of the contact, but diving at a QBs knees is supposed to be an automatic roughing the passer call. Again, the refs got the call right. Mike Wright tried to strip Flacco of the football after Flacco was on the ground at the end of a sack; again, a perfectly good roughing the passer call – that one obviously against the Patriots.
You can hate how much the QBs are being “protected” by the league, as Rodney Harrison clearly does even when his good friend, Tom Brady, is one of the QBs being protected. But there is no reason to ignorantly suggest the refs are blowing the calls when they are making the calls accurately according the the rule book. A ridiculous situation would be one where the refs only made those calls when the QBs were injured on the play.
Hate the protection of QBs if you must, but please stop whining about the refs following the rule book.

By: MistrezzRachael

MistrezzRachael — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:10:07 +0000

As stated below…you’re all blaming wrong people here….Officials just calling rules which were created.
Who created this???…The ‘Competiton Committee’…All started w/the 5 yard rule on receivers…and has continued over last 6-7 years to micro mamage like a petty sewing circle.
Fisher, Dungy, Polian, McKay & friends…equal a petty ‘good ole boy’ network……Dungy???…the biggest hypocrite of them all…And he has the effing berries to criticize?????