Comments on: ESPN drops Favre's "just move on" message to Packers fans

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:06:20 +0000

Well Sterling I read your article and its typical Favre (if he indeed said those words) saying one thing to one person and another thing to another. In his interview on Foxnews last year he replied “Why?” to the will you compete for the starting job last year. This guy has mental issues and is a needy bitch.

By: Sterling

Sterling — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:01:56 +0000

And by the way, the Jets also released Chad Pennington w/o seeking a trade. Who knows why they did it? They could have sought a trade, and it was much later in the year, and closer to the season, than when they released Favre. So I wouldn’t read too much into the Jets releasing Favre, beyond the fact that they were moving on with a new coach and a new system, and that was that.

By: Sterling

Sterling — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:55:40 +0000

Supersuckers, You're a bit mixed up. Thompson did not offer to let Favre compete for his job. Favre asked to be able to do that, and Thompson and McCarthy refused. They told him to stay away from camp. He did so. See this article in the NY Daily News in which Favre says he wants to compete for the job, but Thompson "pleaded" with him to stay away from camp: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/07/27/2008-07-27_brett_favre_feels_pressure_from_packers.html And here is one from the Green Bay Gazette that states clearly that Favre asked to compete for the starting job and Thompson told him no dice, that Rodgers was the starting QB, end of story: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080727/PKR01/80727004/1058 Hello, Whatthehell... I got the story about Thompson from the Milwaukee newspaper. They've got a reporter dedicated to covering nothing but Packers, and this story came out after the start of the season. You and I really know nothing except what the papers etc reported. You have no idea who is lying, whether it's Brett, or Ted. But the Milwaukee newspaper, along about October 2007, corroborated Favre's story. Which is probably why the Packers felt they had to hire Ari Fleischer, aka Mr. Spin Doctor. And by the way. His name is BRETT. Not BreNT. If you don't even know his name, how can you possibly know anything else??

By: Beer Cheese Soup

Beer Cheese Soup — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:14:05 +0000

WHO CARES whether it’s his fault or Thompson’s. IT’S OVER, they’ve both moved on, so should you. It’s the media, a very select few, overly emotional Packer fans, and a bar in Eau Claire that just wanted to get some free advertising that are keeping this stupidity going.
To hell with the Vikings AND Favre, but this time he’s right. It’s time to move on people. Let it go, and focus on something relevant for a change.

By: GunnyD

GunnyD — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:25:21 +0000

whatthehellisgoingonoutthere – Brent? I’m sorry….didn’t know there was a Brent in the picture….oh….maybe I too am playing semantics. Given that Ted Thompson has said very little about the entire situation…I tend to believe BRETT (a.k.a. Brent…I assume that’s who you were talking about). Sterling was more right than YOU were!

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:13:27 +0000

You said it all by saying you cannot explain why the Jets released him either. There is no offseason in the NFL anymore. You are either committed 100 percent by the first OTA’s or you’re not committed and he obviously wasn’t. You cannot allow one player to hold up your team by sitting ont he notion that the one player may change his mind. You are suggesting that after Favre cried and said he was done and had nothing left to give that the Packers should have put a astericks sign next to Rodgers name at the top of the depth charge? With the footnote of “we’ll see”? No. They had to move on. Thankfully they did make the right decision. Of course he has a right to play and continue his career. The money? Its give or take the same amount he was scheduled to make in New York. In fact, he was scheduled to make a million more in New York. I think. The meeting you are referring to doesn’t matter. After watching that press conference I wouldnt have taken him back. Lost his edge. he doesn’t ooze confidence to this day. His interviews reek of self doubt. Like many of us he has insecurity issues only his are in the public eye. Thompson had a third choice by the way. Compete for the job. That’s what they offered him. Favre declined and that is the real reason he didn’t show up for camp. Not because he didn’t want to be a distraction.

By: whatthehellisgoingonoutthere

whatthehellisgoingonoutthere — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:08:23 +0000

Sterling, you couldn’t be more wrong about the facts. I don’t know where you get them, but you can look them up. Brent was just playing semantics. Whether or not they chartered a plane solely to see him or not is irrelevant. It had NOTHING to do with his locker. They planned adding another leg to their flight on the way to or back from league meetings to talk to Brent, but he called back 3 days later to say he wanted to stay retired. Brent was just splitting hairs and has told so many lies that he can’t keep them straight or tries to re-write history with what he said publicly.

By: Sterling

Sterling — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:17:32 +0000

Supersuckers,
I hear what you’re saying. But have to disagree somewhat. I can’t explain the Jets simply releasing him. But it may have something to do with the complex contract Thompson insisted on – may have been easier and cost them less that way. We don’t know all the details of that contract.
I think if Favre had intended, from the start of the offseason, to play for Minn. this year, he would have had the surgery earlier. He waited instead, and had it so late, he almost couldn’t play this year. Given that, his choices as to teams were limited – most teams already had a QB in place and one they were happy with. He has friends on the Vikings staff, and he knew their system. And he had a chance to make $10 or $12 million. Who among us would not sign a contract with a division rival if it means another $12 million?? He’s only got this one chance to play football. It’s not like he can leave the game for 10 years and come back. So what the heck. This was the gamble Thompson took when he traded him.
I don’t agree that the Packers treated him well. For one, Thompson lied about several things, chief among them the story about him chartering a flight to go down to Miss. at the end of March, when Favre thought he might un-retire. He never did that. He was on his way to league meetings in Florida, on a pre-arranged flight, and stopped by Miss. to tell Favre they wanted to give him his old locker. If the Packers were truly in the right, they wouldn’t have needed to hire a high-profile, rather notorious spin doctor to spin their end of things.
Favre, on the other hand, stayed away from training camp, even though it was his right as a Packer to be there, and by doing so, he actually helped the Packers avoid n even BIGGER media circus. And you know it would have been substantially worse had he come in to camp. He showed them some respect, in other words. More, I think, than they showed him.
Thompson’s trade for Favre was more about getting something for Favre AND making sure he didn’t sign with a division rival, than it was anything else. Thompson had an obligation, under the union agreement, to either trade or release him; he wasn’t being “nice.” There are reports that some other teams were interested in Favre but Thompson wouldn’t talk to them. I don’t know. Personally I would have liked to see Favre end his career in Green Bay, but even Joe Montana didn’t get to stay with the same team forever. That’s the way it goes.
In the end, you still come back to this: Favre knew the system and he knew the team; he’d played at a high level the year before so there was no obvious decline in his skills (remember, he finished 2nd in the MVP voting two years ago). But Thompson made a decision to go with a different QB. He didn’t have to take a hard line. He could have welcomed Favre back to camp. He set the tone for that whole thing that went down, and as GM, it was his responsibility, everything that happened. Favre was under contract to him, not the other way around. So this was a business decision that was totally in Thompson’s hands. He did what he did, and I don’t blame Favre for wanting to continue to play, whether it was in New York, or Minneapolis, or wherever.

By: Chickenfoot

Chickenfoot — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:57:47 +0000

Supersuckers says:
October 5, 2009 12:16 PM
I mean…its gay. Unless one of you people have 1.21 jigowatts coming out of your ass there should be no statements made about the friggin future as fact!
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Run for it Marty!!!

By: Chickenfoot

Chickenfoot — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:53:20 +0000

Footbalrulz:
packrulz is someone whose mind you are never going to change.
He is one of those ilk that think his heroes” owe him something.”
Packrulz: No football player needs to consult his fans as to what he wants to do with his legacy.
It didn’t fit what you wanted to happen so he’s a jerk?
I think it’s funny that people like you get your panties in a bunch over it.
Then you call us hypocrites for rooting for Favre now?
Well, I too, root for the name on the front, not the back.
Typical classless fan that has to bring up the Super bowls, that is because your arguement is lame.
I mean a fellow Packer fan is calling you an idiot, you can’t know a whole hell of a lot.

By: GunnyD

GunnyD — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:25:04 +0000

packrulz1969 – Just curious? What do YOU do for a living? I think you should just give up your job too….and retire…..even if you think you’re still capable of making cheese or whatever it is you DO for a living. NOBODY has a right in the America “I” live in, to tell someone that they must retire and are not allowed to change their minds and unretire. Get a life idiot.

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:22:36 +0000

supersuckers & marcduke
Thanx for the bullshit call. I’ve spent the last hour trying to find any proof of TT telling Favre he wasn;t going to be the QB. Geez

By: packrulz1969

packrulz1969 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:13:21 +0000

I’m a lifelong Packers fan and I’m sick and tired of hearing people defend Favre. I can honestly say I appreciated the 16 years he put in here and truly enjoyed watching him play. The Favre situation was unique in all of sports, so I tire of listening to the idiots who say “let him play”. He had an opportunity to go down as the one of the most beloved sports figures of any era in sports, but chose to shit all over his legacy and his fans. Don’t compare his situation with Montana or whoever else you want to dredge up. Montana did not go to an NFC team and especially not to one of San Francisco’s biggest rivals. While I don’t put all of the blame on Favre, the lions share is his to bare whether he believes it or not. Like they say, I root for the name on the front and not on the back. While I think Adrian Peterson will beat the Pack tonight, Favre surely will not. Go Pack and Favre, just go away. Oh yeah, one last thing. 0-4 and 41-0. Vikings fans will know what I mean.

By: GBISFULLOFFATTIES

GBISFULLOFFATTIES — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:14:40 +0000

just_a_cigar says:
I live in Green Bay, and Favre is dead on. These people do need to move on. He gave us 16 great years and then was forced out. He signed with a good team that has a shot to win the Super Bowl.
So burn his jersey??? Give me a break. Get a clue. You’re embarassing those of us with brains. And start counting your calories on occasion while you’re at it. A dangerously obese city Green Bay is.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself!

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:13:41 +0000

Biff
I don’t get personal usually on these things but your last point makes you the protypical “American Idiot”

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:08:32 +0000

Biff,
That story is bullshit. Thompson didnt sit him down and say he wasnt going to be the quarterback. What a irresponsible post. Prove that. Geez. This is what I mean when I say Americans are so stupid and the media knows it. Geeez.

By: marcduke

marcduke — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:02:19 +0000

“People seem to selectively forget Steve Mariucci’s report that Ted Thompson sat Favre down the day after the NFC Championship Game loss to the Giants and told him he wouldn’t be a starter for the Pack come 2008. They were going with Aaron Rodgers.”
Please provide a link, I call bullshit

By: jcarollo

jcarollo — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:01:06 +0000

If Favre had not jerked the Pack around for the last 5 years with his will I, won’t I game, he would still be the QB. for GB. Don’t also forget that after he retired, Thompson and McCarthey were ready to get on a plane to go down to Mississippi to announce that he was coming back only to change his mind once again. Favre wanted Thompson and McCarthey to kiss his a** and based on his lack of committment to the team, they were not willing to do it.
I appluad Thompson and McCarthey for not caving in and can’t wait for Minn to experience the same garbage both Dallas, Philly, and now Buffalo are experiencing with TO.

By: Wonderlic---myballs

Wonderlic---myballs — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:58:26 +0000

How nice of Mr. Favre to soak up all the attention while the real war machine quietly squats mountains,studies your D, and tunes his world class engine. Favre may the the story but the beast AD is going to run wild tonight. This game may be the most watched MNF ever and AD knows it. Must suck to be a defender when the modern day Jim Brown on jet fuel is bringin’ it.Pack won’t stop him and Brett gets whatever it is he wants out of this game with the win.

By: Ambrose

Ambrose — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:50:31 +0000

All of the new Favre fans speak as though they have been watching him regularly for sixteen years. And now they are Favre experts after watching him play three times. Mark my words….these are the (very important) mid-season games in which he chokes. What was at stake in your first three games? (nothing.) And what is at stake tonight? (everything.) Are you with me here? You can learn about the real Favre the hard way or the easy way. Packers will take it tonight, if Favre has anything to do with it. Stop Peterson, stop the Vikings.

By: Biff Henderson

Biff Henderson — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:37:00 +0000

People seem to selectively forget Steve Mariucci’s report that Ted Thompson sat Favre down the day after the NFC Championship Game loss to the Giants and told him he wouldn’t be a starter for the Pack come 2008. They were going with Aaron Rodgers.
Favre made a decision based on the GM telling him in no uncertain terms he was no longer wanted in Green Bay.
He bowed out, or should I say, caved-in. He thought better of his decision and said he wasn’t going to take it lying down. Can’t fight City Hall. He tried none the less, and the haters given cause to spew their venom.
Any truth to Mooch’s report? Favre didn’t use his voice in the media, he conveyed it via Mooch. I was convinced when Favre’s family members confirmed it to a source I respect.
It reinforces the perception of Favre the waffler. IMHO he showed himself to be the fighter that made him a future HOFer.
Ted, Karma’s a Bitch.

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:31:04 +0000

@ supersuckers
that’s funny ( the gay future posts)
@marcduke
and all this time I thought Fan-of-four was female.

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:16:24 +0000

I mean…its gay. Unless one of you people have 1.21 jigowatts coming out of your ass there should be no statements made about the friggin future as fact!

By: Grinder12000

Grinder12000 — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:15:59 +0000

Packer fans HAVE move on – he is a Viking player – thus – we hate you. Simple as that! Plus – I believe HE is the one that left GB – not the other way around.
I think Viking fans should stop using Favre as a crutch – they are a good team without Favre but as long as they have him they are are ONLY as good as he is to the rest of the world.
As for ESPN – they are morons. Being a Packer fan I was amazed at how many idiot-like comments they have been making.
Should be a good close game tonight – Minnesota is NOT as good as people think and the Packers are better then they have played.

By: Supersuckers

Supersuckers — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:12:12 +0000

Love how everyone has a crystal ball. If any of you knew what was going to happen tonight (which none of you do) you wouldnt be sitting on this site typing retarded unqualified “predictions” and “statements of future occurernces” How gay..

By: marcduke

marcduke — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:08:17 +0000

@ Fan_Of_ Four
“you really need to take a long hard look at your life because Football has become way more important than it should be. ”
- Says the guy who’s posting on a NFL rumors website and defends Lord Favre every chance he gets.
You, gwinn(if that’s Gwinn, MI – your comments start to make sense) and Cigar should really try to get away from polishing Favre’s throne every once and while.

By: AD4MVP

AD4MVP — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:02:43 +0000

PackFaninPackLand,
Crownd lovin’ it!

By: footballrulz

footballrulz — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:01:53 +0000

Seems kinda funny to me–The post is about Favre telling Packer fans to move on and most of the responses here are either bitching about ESPN’s integrity or are Vike fan’s telling Packer fans it time to move on. With the excepton of a few IDIOTS, most Packer fans “moved on” last year.
Trust me folks, the last thing Favre will be thinking about when he retires is what his fans think. Hell, he doesn’t care what they think now, & why should he? That goes even if he ends up playing for every franchise in the league.
Enjoy the game tonight.

By: ALLDAY

ALLDAY — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:55:39 +0000

I could care less if Spurgion Wyne was our Quarterback as long as the Vikes are 4-0 at the end of the night thats all that matter, Green Bay grow up and enjoy the game, besides the Favre hupla, forget about it. Peterson will go for 180 and 2. Snooch.

By: PackFaninPackLand

PackFaninPackLand — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:55:33 +0000

Just more made up Olbermann-ization of the news by Florio. With Uber-Moron is was George W. Bush, with Florio it’s Brett Favre. Just “make up” bullsh– and say it enough times and the slavish fools will start to believe it. Fact is, ESPN DID leave it in and Florio knows they did, but since most people will just react to the headline – rather than viewing it for themselves. It’s just another example of how Florio is just a whore. He’ll do anything for a few bucks. He knows any post about Favre (true or just “made up”) will generate clicks (and thus money for himself) so he just sits there and like Uber-moron, just “makes” stuff up, time after time after time.
It’s really sad that Florio has to resort to this type of crap just to make himself a few extra bucks. So there’s really NO DIFFERENCE between Florio and the street walking whore – each will do anything for a few bucks, although I’m sure Florio would tell us that he’s a “GOOD” kind of whore, wouldn’t you Florio ??? What a sad and pathetic man you must be.