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Favre's performance vaults him to No. 3 rating, but last pass was a head scratcher

Last night’s 30-23 win by the Vikings over the Packers included a 24-for-31 passing performance from Brett Favre, with 271 yards and three touchdowns.

The performance puts Favre at No. 3 in passer rating with 104.7, behind only Peyton Manning (114.5) and Drew Brees (108.4).

As Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press points out, it’s actually a step backward for Favre.  After four games in 2008, Favre led the league with a passer rating of 110.8.

But while Favre currently is the toast of the league, we’ve still got major issues with the last pass he threw last night.

With 3:27 to play and the Packers out of timeouts and the Vikings facing third down and 10 yards to go from the Green Bay 45, Favre faked a handoff out of shotgun formation and then fired it deep to Bernard Berrian, who caught the ball out of bounds.

And so the Vikings blew a chance to run 45 seconds or so off the clock, along with a chance to secure a first down that would have then allowed them to burn off most of the rest of the time.

Instead, the Packers drove from the 18 into field-goal range, cut the 10-point lead to seven, and then had a chance to recover an onside kick with 55 ticks remaining.

If the Vikings had kep the clock moving on that third-down play, the Packers would have had a much lower chance of forcing overtime, if Sidney Rice (or, if you’re Ron Jaworski, Sidney Crosby) hadn’t made like Sidney Moncrief and fielded the onside kick like it was a rebound off the front of the rim.

So why did the Vikes go for the low-percentage death blow?  Did coach Brad Childress call the play?  Or did Favre, with a full tank of “vanity and hatred,” freelance in the hopes of ensuring that he fully and completely “stuck it” to Ted Thompson?

Regardless, it was a huge blunder, and the Vikings were lucky that they didn’t get burned by it.

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  1. Arias says: Oct 6, 2009 12:16 PM

    You’re an NFL calibre playcaller now too are you Florio?? Wow.
    They probably called it because it was the last thing the Packers expected which made it a higher percentage pass than usual.

  2. TheDPR says: Oct 6, 2009 12:17 PM

    As retarded as Chilly is, I can’t imagine him calling that play in that situation. It’s something an ego-driven, dumb QB would do; it was something Brett Favre would do.

  3. Wonderlic---myballs says: Oct 6, 2009 12:18 PM

    Favre says ChillyDog makes the calls. Once again after playing great and victory in sight,ChillyDog does his best to ruin a good thing by piss poor clock management. Nothing new around here.

  4. ChiJintsFan says: Oct 6, 2009 12:19 PM

    I would bet that the 12th man in the huddle- aka #4’s ego- called the play and, as usual, put his own feelings above good of the team.

  5. AD4MVP says: Oct 6, 2009 12:22 PM

    Classic. If this play would have been a TD it would’ve been the greatest playcall of the night by the vikings. If it doesn’t work it is stupid. Come on Florio, you would think you are smart enough by now to understand these risk/reward play calls are part of the NFL every week. If it wasn’t Favre no one would be talking about it.

  6. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:25 PM

    I agree with Florio, but its also the play called that makes no sense. Favre did not check off a run to a play action pass deep. I will say this, there were multiple people to throw to and Favre went for the home run ball. Not the check down or scramble, to keep the clock running. Hell, a sack would have been better. But in all fairness to Childress, would Peyton Manning or Drew Brees, Tom Brady or even a rookie like Matthew Stafford gone for that throw. Probably not, but Favre is in a different class. Always has been, always will be. Throws off his back foot, forces throws, shows no fear, isnt afraid to pile on the points, thats Favre. Love him or hate him, thats Favre.

  7. LarryBird18 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM

    aha aha aha…The last 3 months were nothing but sh*t talking between you peice of sh*t packer and bear fans…one quarter into the season and you need to change your pants…I thought this division was going to be competive this year…so far, not so much..Jay Cuntler is giving Jake Delhome a run for his money in interceptions…and if the lions can put up 24 on that sh*t defense I cant wait to see what Favre/Peterson/Harvin/Rice/Berrian/Shaincoe are going to do…and the packer? BAHAHA so sh*tty!!! i mean theres winning 6 games last year sh*tty and then theres this year sh*tty…Brett Favre took you for 3 TD’s baby when all of you predicted 3 INTs…..ALL PACKER AND BEAR FANS GET ON YOUR KNEES…KISS THE BABY…

  8. Bun McSticky says: Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM

    The hyper-critical aspect of not only this National Enquirer-esque site and so many others is just beyond stupid. The only thing that makes me scratch my head are the poindexters like Sean Jensen for the Pioneer Press….have you seen this guy?? The only football he’s played is Madden 2009.

  9. MJacks44 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:26 PM

    I have to side with Florio on this one. After that play I was asking myself, what are they thinking? Crosby kicked about as perfect an onsides kick as possible. Sidney Rice went up and made an excellent play on the ball to secure it. If GB gets that onsides and scores, that Favre pass would be blown up all over the media.

  10. Fidelito says: Oct 6, 2009 12:30 PM

    Dude you are seriously ridiculous. You dislike Favre we get it. Can you hold onto some credibility here? I’m about ready to jump ship. Just let it go.

  11. njcheesehead72 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:31 PM

    How dare you think Favre made any mistakes last night? The man is a football GOD.

  12. Archie Who? says: Oct 6, 2009 12:31 PM

    Favre seemed a little annoyed by the fact that they were running the ball on the previous series. In fact, on one play, he can be seen grimacing when he got the play call.
    I think that he wanted one more dagger and the fourth down call was going to be it.

  13. LightningLucci says: Oct 6, 2009 12:32 PM

    Child, please.
    There aren’t always outright good and bad decisions. There are percentages. One decides that Option A is more likely to succeed than Option B. That doesn’t mean that A will work, but just that is more likely to.
    It’s 3rd and 10. 3:35 left. GB has no timeouts. Up by 10.
    A run play is safest, but will still leave about 2:30 on the clock.
    A first down ices the game. A pass is risky, but the reward is so great. So, to increase the likelihood of success, you throw the surprise bomb. To reduce the risk, you throw it deep. If it’s intercepted, it’s likely to translate into a punt.
    It didn’t work. Oh, well, you still have a 10 point lead with 3:20 to go. Go play defense.
    But let’s say Minny ran the ball…and fumbled. Your post would have turned into:
    “Childress is a wuss and went all conservative. He obviously doesn’t trust Mr. I-N-T in the game’s final seconds. Childress sucks and deserves to be fired. “

  14. JaredAllen69 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:33 PM

    I can’t argue with you Florio. The Vikings should have run the ball. The thing I found more interesting than the decision to throw, was the look on Favre’s face after he threw the ball. It looked like he was going to bust out laughing.

  15. GreeneBlitz says: Oct 6, 2009 12:34 PM

    Florio, you suffer from a severe case of
    BFDS – Brett Favre Derangement Syndrome
    Symptoms include the strong urge to nit pick and dig to find anything wrong with a nearly perfect game from one of the NFL’s all time greatest players. Other signs include an obsession with finding something, anything to write that will put Brett Farve in a negative light.

  16. VoxVeritas says: Oct 6, 2009 12:34 PM

    BertFarve, a freelancer trying to RUTS on a team that he hates with a “purple” passion? Naah, not BertFarve.

  17. texasPHINSfan says: Oct 6, 2009 12:36 PM

    if you’ve ever watched chilly-ball, you’d know that this was most-likely favre going for glory rather than childress trying to be “cute”.
    it really is blatantly obvious.
    who calls the bombs at the end of a game when you’re winning? The QB with everything to prove & the revenge angle, or the defensive coach who hates throwing the ball & isn’t afraid to call for the punt team?
    i think the answer is obvious.

  18. Obeah says: Oct 6, 2009 12:37 PM

    The Oline gave Favre all night to throw most QB’s would look good with that much time.

  19. Jason Frost says: Oct 6, 2009 12:38 PM

    I actually agree with you Florio..the defense was solid all night, so why were they afraid to give the ball to the packers (with no timeouts, and down 10 points)?..if they could have knocked off 40 more seconds, the Packers would of had to spike the ball after first downs, or at least attempt longer passes to get into field goal range or score the first touchdown (and Rodgers was not getting much time to throw)..I’m sure Childress was asked about it after the game, or will be asked about it..hopefully you guys can catch it and let us know what his explaination is..
    it’s also strange how the Vikings started out so conservative, and got super aggressive after the Packers shut down AP..the Vikings seemed to be a little over-aggressive at times though..the pass play on first and goal that Favre threw to a packers defender (to be fair, a defensive holding and PI helped the defender) was pretty risky..and then, as you mentioned, the deep pass with 3:27 to go..the Vikings are a conservative team, but they seemed to develop an appetite for risk last night..Favre was on fire though

  20. LBPACKFAN says: Oct 6, 2009 12:40 PM

    The niners “took a knee” on 3rd down vs the Queens and it cost them the game (maybe do a play action…try to get the first down and ice the game) – the Queens went for the juggular on 3rd down vs the Pack. I don’t see the problem with it, but it wasnt really a high percentage pass. They were feasting on the Packers secondary with 7-12 yard pass plays all night. Didn’t make sense to me either.

  21. Beal22 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:41 PM

    Farve didn’t call the play, let’s be honest here.
    The thinking behind that play call is very simple. Everyone, EVERYONE, was expecting the Vikings to run up the gut for the first down and run the clock, so what they did, play action THAT EXACT PLAY, and try and catch them with a deep ball (which they almost did).
    In the end, they wont the game. So who really cares? Not Childress, Farve, or any of the Vikings.

  22. pjferg88 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:41 PM

    Whats the worst that could of happened?? Rodgers gets the ball back and gets sacked a couple more times? It was worth the risk.

  23. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 6, 2009 12:45 PM

    I’m not much for the conspiracy theories, but I think Florio’s right on this one. No way Childress makes that call. Not with the game on the line, not with his defense, not with his confidence in his running game. It has the look of a Favre call.

  24. Joe Kapp says: Oct 6, 2009 12:50 PM

    When you break up with a petulant, self centered, egotistical girl (the way the Packers did when they finally tried to transition to Rodgers two years ago) you have to expect that she is going to do everything in her power to humiliate you when she gets the chance.
    So in her territory, with her new brutish boyfriend (the Minny offensive and defensive lines), she prances around while her new beau acts as the enforcer. And if given the chance to exit with any dignity (run time off the clock) she instead chooses to yell, “and another thing!…” (throws that pass).
    No surprises here.

  25. Jigga says: Oct 6, 2009 12:50 PM

    The only people that seem to have major issues with the last play call of Brett passing deep is you Florio….

  26. longrodvanhungendong says: Oct 6, 2009 12:51 PM

    I was expecting an article critical of Favre’s play last night much sooner than 12:10 PM today Flo. Take you some time to find a flaw in his game? FYI, generally folks Monday Morning QB the teams that lost, not won.

  27. Goldy#16 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:54 PM

    Florio is right, you could tell from the body language of both Favre and Chilly.
    Favre audibled out or switched the play. Favre wanted to put a dagger in. Chilly was visibly upset on the sideline after the play. If a young QB pulls that they would have heard about it but Favre is Favre and this was a “special” circumstance.
    It was clear when it happened.

  28. footballrulz says: Oct 6, 2009 12:54 PM

    Larrybird-I gotta tell ya, some of your posts make me think this world would be a better place if you’re daddy woulda pulled out a little earlier. You are a 1st class prick

  29. packrulz1969 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:57 PM

    LarryBird18 once again proves why Vikings fans are the most obnoxious in football. It’s one game. Just one. We have heard this tune before over and over. You’re team is 0-4 in the big game. Anyone remember the 98 season when the greatest team EVER went 15-1 and then lost in the NFC Championship game by 41 points. Shut your trap, enjoy the victory and move on to next week. You won by 7 points. The Pack lost the game due to poor offensive line play and some pretty questionable calls from the Zebra’s.

  30. Florios Left Testy says: Oct 6, 2009 12:58 PM

    hindsight being 20/20 of course it was a bad throw…..but if it had been a completion it would have been brilliant, it would have been a dagger into the packers and thompsons heart, and it would have been played on ESPN for the next three days…. All you arm chair quarterbacks here should settle down and quit dogging any of them for taking a chance.

  31. PackFaninPackLand says: Oct 6, 2009 1:00 PM

    I just knew Florio couldn’t “allow” Favre to have a great game without some criticism. That’s just not part of the “agenda” there at PFT is it Olbermann, I mean Florio.
    The hatred you must have for one of the true legends of the game makes you look like a sad and pathetic man.
    Get a life Florio, or better yet, grow up !

  32. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:02 PM

    @ LarryBird18
    Now im not a Bears or Vikings fan, but wow dude your a moron. Cutler has 5 INTs total, 4 in the first game, 1 since (thats 3 games special ed kid) and guess what, they lost that first game and are 3-0 since. Thats pretty good. And the Lions have played 4 top 10 defenses and have scored an average of nearly 21 points a game, thats better than half the league. And the Packers, well they lost to a 3-1 Bengals team (who beat the Steelers if you forget) and now a damn good Vikings team, with both games coming down to the end. Pay attention before you open your mouth. Your like that fan who casually watches football and doesn’t know a damn thing about what your watching. Thats called having a learning disability, there is medication for it ya know…

  33. JAG880 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:04 PM

    In the words of T.O., “I’m just going with the plays that are called.”

  34. Rex Grossman says: Oct 6, 2009 1:05 PM

    He’s a freaking maverick.

  35. simple_simon1 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:06 PM

    He’s played great so far and the Vikings are a good team. Still say, no way this team wins the Superbowl but they’ve played good early on.
    The question was never how Favre would play early, as we all know he is a great QB. It’s how he will finish and we’ll all just have to wait and see.
    Beginning of the season definitely goes to Favre. Long season and we’ll see if it continues.
    Lastly, once again, remember that Favre hasn’t exactly been stellar in the playoffs. We all talk about Romo, and rightfully so, but Favre has only won one Superbowl. He’s lost out in the playoffs in every single year of his career but once. Does he get it done this year, for a full 17 weeks plus playoffs. I would not waste my money betting for it to happen, but good job early Favre.

  36. Sparrowhawk says: Oct 6, 2009 1:06 PM

    BertFarve: “Aw shucks, me run up the score? I’m justa good ol’ country boy that doesn’t believe in revenge.”

  37. filthylucre says: Oct 6, 2009 1:07 PM

    Sidney Moncrief? Seriously, Florio? Way to crowbar in a reference that only AARP members will understand.

  38. zygi milf says: Oct 6, 2009 1:09 PM

    LightningLucci says:
    October 6, 2009 12:32 PM
    Child, please.
    There aren’t always outright good and bad decisions. There are percentages. One decides that Option A is more likely to succeed than Option B. That doesn’t mean that A will work, but just that is more likely to.
    It’s 3rd and 10. 3:35 left. GB has no timeouts. Up by 10.
    A run play is safest, but will still leave about 2:30 on the clock.
    A first down ices the game. A pass is risky, but the reward is so great. So, to increase the likelihood of success, you throw the surprise bomb. To reduce the risk, you throw it deep. If it’s intercepted, it’s likely to translate into a punt.
    It didn’t work. Oh, well, you still have a 10 point lead with 3:20 to go. Go play defense.
    But let’s say Minny ran the ball…and fumbled. Your post would have turned into:
    “Childress is a wuss and went all conservative. He obviously doesn’t trust Mr. I-N-T in the game’s final seconds. Childress sucks and deserves to be fired. ”
    Excellent post.
    There was very little risk on that pass.
    Let’s say instead, Chilly or Favre, or whoever called the play called a slant instead to just get the first down. Receiver turns the wrong way or the pass is slightly off-target, possible deflection and/or interception.
    As Vikings fans, we saw again last night, and many times before against the Packers, how lucky they are at catching deflected passes.

  39. wrath4771 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM

    That pass was Farve’s attempt to stick it to Thompson and McCarthy. That was one of those plays I don’t think the Packers forget either – it was just an attempt to show them up. Perosnally, I would have chop blocked that S.O.B as he was running to the side line with that big grin on his face.

  40. Burritto says: Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM

    I don’t care at all about who called the play, but it is certainly a defensible call.
    The worst case scenario for the Vikings nearly happened and they recovered. The best case scenario ends the game.
    I don’t know if I would have made the call or not (and kudos for having the guts to be aggressive like that to whomever dialed it up) but it’s silly to say, “it was a huge blunder, and the Vikings were lucky that they didn’t get burned by it.”
    It was as big a blunder as any other incompletion. A catch by Berrian on that play and you’re here saying that the Vikings are showing the killer instinct needed to finish games and win a championship.

  41. BigEasy says: Oct 6, 2009 1:12 PM

    Can we leave Favre alone please and give him some alone time with Gruden…….
    Okay, Favre’s good….he’s a 1st ballot Hall of Famer…..we all know that….

  42. Karen Rodgers Mom says: Oct 6, 2009 1:13 PM

    That pass was insulting to my daughters Team, in essence the Vikings were saying we aren’t afraid of the Packers and their Pop Warner O line. Sure they could have run the ball and killed some clock but where is the fun in that ?
    So are we going to wait until its official or can we just give Jared Allen Defensive player of the week right now ?
    I know, I know it’s not much of an award since the Team playing the Packers gets the award each week but hey it still counts right ?

  43. Vikes-N-Favre says: Oct 6, 2009 1:17 PM

    While trying for the first down at that time would have been the smartest route to take, did it really matter? I mean, the only reason why GB even completed some passes in the last few minutes of the game is because Minnesota was playing prevent defense.
    The way Jared Allen and company totally dismantled Aaron Rodgers all night long, there was no way they were allowing him to get into the endzone to tie the game. GB couldn’t do it when they had 1st and goal on the one yard line, tried 4 time to get a TD, and still turned the ball over to the Vikings. Now if that is not one sad ass offense, I don’t know what is. 4 attempts to get less then 1 yard, and they still failed.
    Truth of the matter is, this game wasn’t even as close as the 7 points that separated the two teams indicated. The Vikings DOMINATED them in every aspect and kicked their asses.

  44. TechnoHawk says: Oct 6, 2009 1:17 PM

    So what’s worse, going for the death blow up by 16 or going for it on 4th and goal from the 1 down by 14 rather than taking the three points?

  45. Karen Rodgers Mom says: Oct 6, 2009 1:20 PM

    You’re killing me man, now you’re stealing one liners from Kornhoser ? C’mon man you can do better than “vanity and hatred “

  46. Twiz says: Oct 6, 2009 1:25 PM

    Florio is an idiot, plain and simple.
    Out of all the posts after the game, not a single Packer fan brought this up. Now that Lord Florio opened his trap, he has given the Packer fans something else to chew on.
    The game is over, the Vikings won.
    Get over it and move on!

  47. Sparrowhawk says: Oct 6, 2009 1:28 PM

    NotaPackFanand Not FromPackLand: You should really punish Florio by never coming to this blog and never giving your insightful and knowledgeable commentary again. That would teach him a lesson.

  48. Twiz says: Oct 6, 2009 1:31 PM

    packrulz1969 says: October 6, 2009 12:57 PM
    LarryBird18 once again proves why Vikings fans are the most obnoxious in football. It’s one game. Just one. We have heard this tune before over and over. You’re team is 0-4 in the big game. Anyone remember the 98 season when the greatest team EVER went 15-1 and then lost in the NFC Championship game by 41 points. Shut your trap, enjoy the victory and move on to next week. You won by 7 points. The Pack lost the game due to poor offensive line play and some pretty questionable calls from the Zebra’s.
    You are one of the typical Packer dumbazz fans trying to re-write history to fit their needs.
    The year the Vikings went 15-1, they lost in the Championship game to Atlanta **ONLY** because Gary Anderson missed a field goal, his **ONLY** miss of the entire season! This was the 1998 season.
    When the Giants beat the Vikings by 41 points, it was the Championship game in the 2001 season.
    At least do a google search before opening your trap and further proving your stupidity!

  49. Twiz says: Oct 6, 2009 1:34 PM

    TechnoHawk says: October 6, 2009 1:17 PM
    So what’s worse, going for the death blow up by 16 or going for it on 4th and goal from the 1 down by 14 rather than taking the three points?
    Of course, the Vikings play was far worse, at least in Lord Florio’s eyes. Out of 100 blogs, he has said something complimentary to Farve/Vikings like one time. He has blinders on when it comes to calls made by other teams, and doesn’t even bring it up.
    He knows he can stir the pot by making a STUPID ASSumption and watching the Packer fans run with it!

  50. TrueFan says: Oct 6, 2009 1:36 PM

    Those of you trying to suggest Favre went against a called play and took this risk are mentally retarded.
    WHAT about ANYTHING the man has done since playing in Minnesota has looked like “free-lancing” or “gun-slinging”?
    He has played the check-down, conservative game plane to the absolute letter.
    So, suddenly, after holding to that all along, with game in hand, decides to eschew the play called from Childress and go bombs away?
    You are all Favre hating idiots.

  51. planktonDisciple says: Oct 6, 2009 1:45 PM

    A Larrybird — Your remark about Cutler shows you don’t even follow the game. Even with his horrible performance in game 1, his passer rating for the next three is over 100. He has been excellent, unlike your analysis.

  52. VikingsFan23 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:48 PM

    Well, with a good a game has he had played, I suppose we can allow him one “Eff You” pass…that was after all the only one of those he threw all night.

  53. realityonetwo says: Oct 6, 2009 1:49 PM

    What an ignorant post that was. The Vikings got “lucky” last night? They bludgeoned the Packers all game long but they were “lucky” to win even though losing would have meant giving up a long scoring drive and then another after the opponent would have to recover an onside kick and probably have to win the overtime coin flip and then make another successful scoring drive.
    I mean, that really is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read here, and that is certainly saying something.

  54. onlineinsite says: Oct 6, 2009 1:53 PM

    actually i liked the aggressive call. it was within a foot or two of being a TD and if they convert, who cares about the 45 seconds – game over! it wasn’t like it was a 4th down where the vikes cough up the ball by not converting the pass. also, with the vikes D playing as well as it was, it was a reasonable risk.

  55. LOL12345 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:53 PM

    I agree, when watching the game I thought the score made it look a lot closer than it actually was…. But all that maters is the score in the end.. So Vikes need to learn not to go into we won mode at the end of games like the seem to do….. Almost like it was time to try to put up some crazy stats time and it almost backfired……. ALMOST….. Vikes had the game won anyway

  56. tufar says: Oct 6, 2009 1:55 PM

    For those of you not so mensa Packer fans who insist on calling the Vikings, queens and think that it is soooo funny, what would you call a team that got beaten by those queens? I don’t know, maybe the Green Bay Princesses? I can’t believe I stooped so low to use name calling on here, but honestly, you guys have to come up with something original for a change, it’s really tiresome. The Pack lost, right now the have a QB who everyone raves about, but he still has a losing record and can’t seem to finish strong. A fantasy pick but not a winner so far!

  57. TSE says: Oct 6, 2009 1:59 PM

    I have to TOTALLY disagree that the play call was a blunder.
    It doesn’t matter which play call ensures the win if the odds of finding a way to lose the game are astronomically low. They had VERY little to risk by going for the BIG FINAL PASS.
    If they are right, and the WR gets an advantage because of the obvious strategy to run the ball, then the score gets WAY out of hand, and Favre hits GB that much harder. That is what they wanted. Childress wanted to stick it to a division rival HARD and he wanted that for Favre as well. He also wanted that for ALL Viking fans to really drive a nail into the hearts of a foe and really, really make a deadly statement.
    I totally agree and support the decision to demoralize and destroy and embarrass the opposition. This isn’t a game of tiddlywinks, this is football man, and when you have a chance to really stick it to a franchise and tarnish their legacy, that is a really tough punch for a foe to take, and if you decide that your job is to destroy the enemy and not take prisoners, then this is exactly what you MUST do, especially when the odds of the Packers forcing the OT were so, so remote.
    Keep in mind they were statistically lucky to get the first part as it was, if we played the game over a hundred times, there’s going to be a lot of times they don’t even get that first TD, and more importantly there’s going to be a handful of times that the pass is going to be completed for the ultimate bounty of demoralizing the foe and their franchise in a grand way.
    It was a brilliant tactical move by Childress. Well done coach. And no I’m not a Vikings fan, I’m a Detroit fan, so it doesn’t do me any good to see the Vikings go out in a blaze of glory, so I’m giving an impartial and unbiased view here.

  58. Facts Domino says: Oct 6, 2009 2:08 PM

    How in the world is it a head scratcher?
    Favre wanted blood. It is a rather simple concept.
    That was a Red Forman let me stick my foot in your ass throw to Ted Thompson and Mike Mccrossedeyes.

  59. Hauschild says: Oct 6, 2009 2:08 PM

    Calling that ONE play a “blunder” is about as inaccurate an assessment as I’ve seen.
    I hate to bring up facts, but the fact of the matter is that Minny was up by TWO SCORES with 3 minutes to play. Had Minnesota eventually lost that game, it would have certainly been the result of a porous Minnesota secondary that had blown coverages all nite.
    Another fact is that Favre’s star shone in the spotlight once again. It was a phenomenal performance from the maestro.

  60. jjacq2000 says: Oct 6, 2009 2:15 PM

    The only thing that matters is 4-0 baby. If Ted Thompson is so smart, why aren’t the Packers winning. Ted is ruining the Packers with his ego and dumb drafts.

  61. trikee says: Oct 6, 2009 2:28 PM

    Non-Revenge Tour?
    Vanity and hatred?
    Florio, are you talking about yourself?
    You’ve had a serious hard on for Favre for years, I’ve come to the conclusion you are a hater and have homo-erotic feelings for Farve. C’mon, admit you secretly whack it while whispering….ooooh Lord Farve…..
    Florio is on the Hate Farve Fag Tour…..

  62. sand0 says: Oct 6, 2009 2:28 PM

    Florio shows his lack of knowledge of the game with an article like this. The down was 3rd and 12. The Packers are playing single man coverage and playing underneath the receiver with no deep safety help.
    A run play or swing pass would keep the clock moving but has a very low chance of converting the down. The greatest chance to convert the down is with a deep in or a slant or something but those routes are too risky when you are up that much. The only other option is the fade down the sideline. Even if it is picked they are still on the 5 yard line so it acts like a great punt. And the chance of picking that pass is very low.
    Berrian had several steps on the cornerback. Brett had a chance to end the game with a decent toss and he missed it. The drawback was 45 seconds more of time for Green Bay to work with.
    And don’t overestimate how close Green Bay came to winning at the end there. Teams have a 20% chance in general of converting onsides when the opponent is ready. If they convert it, I give them a 30-40% chance of scoring the TD to tie it just because their offense was rolling at the time. Even if they get that far, still only 50% to win in OT. At the point in which the lost all chance, they only had a 3-4% chance to win.
    And that came after some good work by them to get it even that close with little time left.
    It was a fine play call for the situation. They missed the play. But it isn’t like there is some automagic play on 3rd and 12 protecting a late two score lead. Run or fade route. Florio is either ignorant to situational football or trying to rouse morons up.

  63. VikingsFan23 says: Oct 6, 2009 2:36 PM

    To Tufar:
    What do you call a team that was beaten by those Queens?
    The Green Bay Bottoms.

  64. Sterling says: Oct 6, 2009 2:47 PM

    The question you should be asking is why Chilly insisted on running AP up the middle, when the Packers had shut him down all night. He only had 55 yards rushing for the game. If you want to run out the clock, the best way to do that is to keep moving the chains. Three AP runs up the middle weren’t doing that, as we saw on the previous possession. So he tried something a little bizarre, but given that the Packers weren’t expecting it, it had a higher than average chance of succeeding. And Favre laid the ball in the right place, it was just that the WR ran the route incorrectly and didn’t leave himself any margin along the sidelines.
    Would’ve been a great play. But it doesn’t diminish Favre’s night. The Vikings owned the Packers last night. Aaron Rodgers managed just one offensive TD in 3 1/2 quarters of play. It wasn’t until Chilly went into a lame prevent D that Rodgers blew his stats up and scored 9 points. Chilly got way too conservative at the end of the game, and nearly cost them a win.

  65. Dan Olson says: Oct 6, 2009 2:48 PM

    Florio, I swear to God you must be 14 years old. Your articles lack depth, insight, and any resemblance of relevancy. For the life of me I cannot understand how or why msnbc hired you. Kudos to you for pulling the wool over their eyes, because you get to write “columns” and get paid for it. Unfortunately, it’s we the reading audience that gets the short-end of the stick. All I have to say is…save your money. Invest it. This gig will not last.

  66. Ringo159 says: Oct 6, 2009 2:51 PM

    Florio could very well be right on this. Immediately after the play, the thought crossed my mind that this could have been Favre’s way of really pouring it on. Then I saw his smirk – kind like a kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar but who knows he’s really not gonna get in trouble. Then the cameras moved to Childress, and he had a disappointed, quizzical look on his face. Very well could have been the fact that the play didn’t work. But it just as easily could have been the fact that Favre audibled out of the called run and changed the play to a high-risk, medium-reward homerun shot that was really unnecessary at that point. If GB gets even one of those onsides kicks, that play is going to get called into question and somebody would have had some explaining to do.

  67. paranoidandroid says: Oct 6, 2009 2:52 PM

    that play call was what you’d see 10 years ago. you could bury a team with a play like that, isn’t too hard to figure that one out.
    now teams elect to run but it was painfully clear the vikings couldn’t run on GB’s defense.
    so what else should they have done? favre was lighting up their secondary all game, why stop now? sure idiots will chalk it up to favre’s ego but with that lead i hardly think that was the case.

  68. packerssuck says: Oct 6, 2009 3:00 PM

    Another huge inconsistency from the “media”. When the Pack threw deep on 3rd down in week 1 it was brilliant because it was complete. If Berrian stayed in bounds it would have been hailed as brilliant because the Vikings didn’t settle for a 2 yard run and a punt. Just be consistent. That’s all we ask.

  69. tufar says: Oct 6, 2009 3:05 PM

    The Vikes won. That play did not make any difference in the outcome, therefore all the shouldas, couldas, wouldas and mightas are just page hits for the NBC Florios. By the way, Chilly can’t win, (we’ll never know if it was his call) he’s either to conservative or in this case to risky…yikes.

  70. writcreate says: Oct 6, 2009 3:08 PM

    I am 4-0 with my predictions for a Favre-led Viking’s team. Check it out:

  71. PimP JuicE MaN says: Oct 6, 2009 3:09 PM

    buh bye

  72. ccslick says: Oct 6, 2009 3:11 PM

    Favre certainly has not proved the Packer decision wrong, his season New York only justified the Packer decision. He still has a lot of work to do to prove the Pack wrong. If I am a Vikings fan I hold off on booking my Super Bowl reservations ( watch 2008 NFC championship game a 38 year old Favre looked 68 by games end). Aaron Rogers carved up a really good Vike Defense for 370 yards while getting sacked 8 times. When has that ever happened. If you got Rogers book your ticket, the jury is out on Favre. Besides if he cared about Super Bowl he would have been in camp early. Wake up he’s just there for revenge!!!!!!

  73. JohnGaltWho says: Oct 6, 2009 3:26 PM

    Very fortunate for the Packers that they kept Rodgers and let Favre go. Anyone who watched Favre the last few years knows that if you switched those quarterbacks last night, the Vikings would have beaten the Packers by 3 touchdowns. Give Rodgers time in the pocket, a threatening running game, and a strong defensive line and he’d have a field day (without throwing inane ego passes). On the other side, if you stuck Favre in the Packers backfield, under constant pressure, mediocre run game, playing from behind – you’d see vintage Favre – interceptions left right and deep down the middle.

  74. dc184 says: Oct 6, 2009 3:32 PM

    There were several moments after the Vikings had a comfortable lead that they were in effect sharpening their nails and gaining experience through plays they would have otherwise not attempted.

  75. tomito says: Oct 6, 2009 3:35 PM

    First, Florio is obsessed with Favre. Get over it. Please.
    Second, while your point is on the mark — you forgot to mention that the pass was thrown quite well and placed where only Berrian had a chance of catching it.
    If he had caught the ball your post probably would have been a little different, but that’s why the play the game.

  76. Chickenfoot says: Oct 6, 2009 3:41 PM

    Give any qb that and he does well. Favre and co. hung 30 on that ” improved ” defense.
    Vikes up by 16 until late 4th quarter when they go into stupid mode and play a deep zone so as not to give up big plays……
    How does a team give up 8 sacks? 8!!!!

  77. Gus says: Oct 6, 2009 3:42 PM

    What the hell did Favre do to you Florio?
    Whether or not Favre makes another pass, he played out of his mind, and is the only reason I visit your site. You just love to stir the pot don’t you?

  78. Zox says: Oct 6, 2009 3:42 PM

    This sounds like a man who was dying for Favre to fail last night and when he didn’t even come close to failing he nitpicks the last pass.
    I like this site, but the more I learn about you, the more I think you are an idiot.

  79. paranoidandroid says: Oct 6, 2009 3:45 PM

    yeah lets talk about that viking running game last night…..where was it? favre didn’t have peterson running wild on green bay.
    truth is it looked like GB had so much respect for favre that they thought they could sit back in zone and pick him. guess that didn’t happen.
    i hope ted and mike cried in each others arms because this is exactly what they had hoped to avoid.
    keep making excuses for rodgers, like give him more time and protection (hmmm, what qb wouldn’t benefit from that?) or a threatening running game (packers rushed for 51 yards to the vikings 63 last night, hardly threatening)

  80. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 6, 2009 3:51 PM

    With one “but” you caused the palms to sweat and the people to POST. Way to generate the ratings. GENUIS

  81. Wonderlic---myballs says: Oct 6, 2009 3:52 PM

    JohnGaltWho says:
    ” Give Rodgers time in the pocket,a threating running game,and a strong defensive line and he’d have a field day”
    So that means you want a first class O line, D line and an AD type back so Rodgers can play great? What good qb couldn’t with all those things? It’s called NFL,build that team. We did. Takes brains from above to build that team you are talking about. The Wilfs are outdoing your guys BIG TIME on free agency and drafting.

  82. Roboto says: Oct 6, 2009 3:53 PM

    The glass is obvioulsy full (for both Favre and the Vikings). But, this article seems to think the glass is empty.
    What a horrible attempt at a hit job on Favre.

  83. bigjay says: Oct 6, 2009 3:58 PM

    Writing this type of article about Favre is rediculous at this point in his career. He is a legend, a first ballot Hall of Famer, and yes; will always be a gunslinger!! This Florio guy has clearly nothing better to do than rip a legend, of whom he is probably extrememly jelous of!!??

  84. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Oct 6, 2009 4:08 PM

    I still have to question what happened to Adrian Peterson and why he was MIA with is 2.2ypc average when they weren’t even stacking the line with 8 men in the box?

  85. bspurloc says: Oct 6, 2009 4:13 PM

    How was that a head scratcher??
    I called that play all the way…. I knew 100% he was going to do that and you can tell by the frustatration of the coach it was NOT the play he wanted.
    It was the perfect FU to GB management. If he completed that pass it would have been crazy in that stadium and when they would later interview him about it he would act like he was Ronald Reagan and not remember it but have a HUGE smirk on his face.

  86. mppalmer50 says: Oct 6, 2009 4:15 PM

    Hmm maybe they did it because it would have been the nail in the coffin for GB. Don’t forget that the Vikings had manhandled the Packers’ offense for the previous 3 quarters. Its safe to say they felt more than confident that if the play didn’t work they would be able to shut the Packers offense down again. Yeah, GB made the game look closer than it was but I still thought it was a good call to throw the play action pass. Everyone was expecting the run and it could have iced the game if the pass had worked. It didn’t, oh well it all worked out anyway. I’m not at all surprised that last night after the game you had nothing to bitch and moan about Florio. Now you’ve had time to go back and nit pick everything and you’ve found something to cry about. Florio’s thought process goes something like this “well, gotta go to work today. I hope I can manage to dig up some kind of dirt on Favre. My day isn’t complete if I can’t put words in his mouth or throw him under the bus in some way.” The guy played an awesome game and everyone saw it and you can’t stand to just let it be what it was. You have to find something negative in the whole thing.

  87. Dewey ActSwooned says: Oct 6, 2009 4:16 PM

    Dan Olson says:
    October 6, 2009 2:48 PM
    Florio, I swear to God you must be 14 years old. Your articles lack depth, insight, and any resemblance of relevancy. For the life of me I cannot understand how or why msnbc hired you.
    You answered your own question: because it’s MSNBC.
    You also forgot: Crappy editing, bias, rumor-mongering, insinuation, implication, omission of pertinent facts and detail, quoting without context, half-truthing, inflammatory characterizations, character-assaulting, slandering, and misrepresentation–all of which are actually VALUED traits in whoever they deem “writers” or “journalists”…

  88. Dewey ActSwooned says: Oct 6, 2009 4:21 PM

    MattMoore For 09 says:
    October 6, 2009 3:51 PM
    With one “but” you caused the palms to sweat and the people to POST. Way to generate the ratings. GENUIS
    What’s a “GENUIS”?
    Is it anything like a GENIUS?

  89. TheBaySay says: Oct 6, 2009 4:28 PM

    Favre played very well, although most NFL QBs would, given so much time. He had more than seven seconds on one play. At least in public, he was low-key and gracious in victory. Why Capers didn’t blitz more I can’t imagine. Packers are down but have time to regroup. Giants were 2-2 last year I believe so it isn’t hopeless.

  90. ccslick says: Oct 6, 2009 4:34 PM

    My heart goes out to a very talented veteran Vikings team that was a real threat to win the Vikes first Super Bowl. They came into camp early and worked hard. Now they have been hijacked by an egomaniac QB who doesnt believe he needs training camp to succeed and a coach who is great at picking talented players but as a head coach can’t find his ass with both hands or his challenge flag. Favre will come apart like a cheap suit at the 3/4 pole of the season. Ask Jets fan how that Favre relationship worked out for them. His teammates outed him in NY. It will be much worse in Minn. with all the respected vets there.

  91. JohnGaltWho says: Oct 6, 2009 4:38 PM

    I agree 100% that the Vikings completely outplayed the Packers. My point is merely the hype about Favre especially as it relates to a comparison between him and Rodgers. The Vikings are a better team right now than the Packers. Favre showed good judgment when he realized two years ago that he would be a good fit in Minnesota. I still think that the Packers have a better present and a better future with Rodgers than Favre and last night didn’t change that assessment. Its early in the season and the Packers have alot of work to do but it’ll be fun to watch Brett deal with some of the more complete aggressive defenses in his future.

  92. TheWizard says: Oct 6, 2009 4:39 PM

    Favre says ChillyDog makes the calls.
    Well now, that certainly makes it gospel, doesn’t it?

  93. JohnGaltWho says: Oct 6, 2009 4:44 PM

    “So that means you want a first class O line, D line and an AD type back so Rodgers can play great? What good qb couldn’t with all those things? It’s called NFL,build that team. We did.”
    My point exactly. Favre didn’t beat Aaron Rodgers last night. The Vikings beat the $hit out of the Packers. I’d still take Aaron Rodgers over Brett Favre last year, today, tomorrow and beyond. I personally love that he’s playing. Its fun to watch. I still think he’ll fall apart when things get hot (or especially if they get cold) and when/if the Packers are out, I’ll be rooting for Favre to win the superbowl but my money is on another excuse filled finish.

  94. Zox says: Oct 6, 2009 4:46 PM

    I cant wait for the movie they make about Favre’s life…It’s gonna be awesome.

  95. ombredunord says: Oct 6, 2009 4:49 PM

    In a sense I applaud the pass as an attempt to establish a “killer instinct” that has dogged the Vikings in 4th quarters for decades. What I fail to understand is why they didn’t at least start with what was working before taking the shot. BTW all of you Chili-haters need to reassess and think back to 2006. The only current elite player they have who was playing then is McKinnie! Soooo…that means that the Chili you revile has had a great hand in building the current team that you love!!

  96. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 6, 2009 5:16 PM

    Sad how SMOE PEOLPE do not get joeks or SCARCASMI. Wow to be old ADN PRIMITIEV. Try to solve this puzzle. Go ahead and give it a try. Note: when some one put a word in all caps and it is mispelled there might be a hidden message. = )

  97. Wonderlic---myballs says: Oct 6, 2009 6:07 PM

    @ TheWizard – I hear ya. Who knows?
    You Pack fans really got no choice,Rodgers is your guy. If he will ever be close to a Brett Favre in his career will have to be seen. Most are not.Can see why you like him as your guy. He is good and if you build your team you guys should be real good for some time. The most we can hope for is one or two good years out of Favre and then the Vikes be in that “who is our qb” mode again which sucks. That being said,he fits us good now on a talented team looking for a ring that needed a good qb. Brett Favres a great qb and I would say that no matter what team he is on. Don’t really buy the “he will fall apart” later either.Like Gruden said easy to tell he was hurt last year,not over the hill. He spits rockets right now after surgery unless you are blind. Maybe you all are 25 but I would root for the old boy playin’ hard at forty if he was on any team.

  98. Mariann Pepitone says: Oct 6, 2009 6:47 PM

    I am a staunch Favre fan and glad the Vikings won. however, let’s give some credit to Rodgers who did fantastic himself even with 8 sacks. Minn. only won by one touchdown. That’s not alot. If Rodgers had made another touchdown they would have had to play overtime and no one knows what the outcome would have been. Rodgers is also a good QB and I give him credit for his effort to win.

  99. justinluey says: Oct 6, 2009 11:12 PM

    Childress confirmed what most of us here already knew, that he called the play. The writer of this article is as lame as all the other Favre haters out there on forums and blogs. I feel sorry for people who get obsessed with somebody and spend all there time tearing them down. Love or hate Favre, he is one of the best to ever play, and if you can’t recognize that you don’t understand the game.

  100. J.Cannon says: Oct 7, 2009 3:45 AM

    Lol. Florio must be some kind of genius. The man split’s hairs about one throw and turn’s it into a story and then 110 people comment on how stupid the post is/ how stupid someone elses response to the post was. Good work.

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