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Russell situation is worse than described

Boomer Esiason of CBS recently lifted the lid on the problems with Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell.  Esiason said on Sunday’s The NFL Today that Russell has been “fined heavily” for showing up late for multiple meetings, being overweight, and missing one meeting.

A league source tells us that it’s even worse.

Per the source, Russell has missed multiple meetings, and that he has missed multiple other activities.  His behavior has been described to us as a “pattern not an aberration.”

It’s a horrible development regarding Russell’s, well, development.  And it’s surely not what coach Tom Cable had in mind when he said this in March:  “If he can accept the responsibility of being an NFL quarterback,
I think that’s working more, working harder, working longer than
everybody else, accepting the responsibility that his teammates look to
him as the face of the organization, that he has to go above and beyond
almost on a daily basis, I think that comes with that position, whether
that’s right or wrong, that’s what it is. . . .  If he can accept that
and become that, he’ll be fine. . . .  I think thus far in the offseason he’s been around more than
ever.  He was never around like this on his own, just watching tape,
studying, so that’s a step in the right direction.  I think he has to
embrace that, though, for him to be what he should be.”

Clearly, Russell hasn’t embraced the realities of his job.  And so the question will be whether the Raiders are going to stay the course with Russell, or whether they’re going to fix this mess before it gets even worse.

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  1. hurls187 says: Oct 6, 2009 12:59 PM

    they need to cut this waste of space and move on. He obviously doesn’t care, and once he got his money went on cruise control

  2. braindead says: Oct 6, 2009 1:00 PM

    Geez, and Phil Savage adored this guy in the draft and taked about trading up to get him for the Browns. I guess things really could be worse.
    signed,
    A numb Browns fan

  3. KingJoe! says: Oct 6, 2009 1:00 PM

    Nice pick there. Well they had the choice of Russell or Young, and both as it stand are considered bust! However, add McFadden to that mix and the Raiders have wasted 65 million dollars on two lazy players who dont have what it takes to play well in the NFL. This lends alot of credence to why the 1st round picks pay scale should be similar to the NBA.

  4. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM

    Did you guys even watch the Texan game? Russell had 8 great throws dropped by his rookie WR’s. So why dont you add 9 onto his total and another 100 yards in dropped balls. This will happen when most of your Offensive skilled positions have less than 2 years NFL experience…

  5. sgt50 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:02 PM

    J. Russell is just one example for the need for a rookie cap, to much money for someone who never had it, and no incintive to get better, cause he is already getting paid!

  6. Bigbluefan says: Oct 6, 2009 1:02 PM

    Rookie Pay Cap
    This guy is a bum he is draging down the team fans and the NFL
    Hell everyone looks and says oh good the Raiders easy win
    I am fan of the Giants but also a fan of the game and it sucks when we go from Tampa to KC now the Radiers this is like preseason
    These crummy games are shitty for the fans and the players when we do play a good team will we be ready after having so many walk thrus

  7. ledtear says: Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM

    As a Raider fan, I like the course they are taking. Whereas in Cleveland they are pronging the Quinn issue by benching him, the Raiders are giving Russell all the opportunity he needs to fail – freeing them later this year or next to go a different way altogether. There will be no Russell issue next year while Cleveland will still have to deal with Quinn.

  8. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM

    What they need to do is play 4 wide and start from a shotgun with a 2 minute Offense. This is the kind of system this kid should be in, not a 1970 offense.

  9. Turd_Spelunker says: Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM

    As a lifetime San Diego Charger fan, I love the direction the Raiders are going here. Mr. Russel clearly does not need practice. We need to look upon the wise one Allen Iverson here. Who needs practice Mr. Russel?
    I shed tears of joy when I see JaMarcus Russel take the field. I simply love his play and his level of thinking. His is quite simply my favorite player to watch.

  10. Scott P says: Oct 6, 2009 1:05 PM

    Surely they won’t fix the problem, its not in the current nature or culture of the team to address the issue of Russell. Davis drafted him and is certainly determined to stay on the Raider boat with Russell driving until it sinks. With the high level of delusional activity taking place in Oakland it almost seems like the organization will have to go 0-16 three straight years with the NFL finally foreclosing on it at some point before any real change in direction would take place.

  11. BigEasy says: Oct 6, 2009 1:08 PM

    Gotta Love Al Davis….he allows all the good players to slip in the draft with his crappy pics!!!!

  12. bearsrule says: Oct 6, 2009 1:10 PM

    He got hisself a ton o’ coin and he don’t care. He’s just keepin’ it real.

  13. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:10 PM

    Russell is the WORST starting QB in the league. Possibly worse than a number of 3rd stringers, EX. Sage Rosenfels in MIN. He is that bad. But Al Davis is the decision maker, not Tom Cable. If Russell gets benched, finally, its because Al Davis finally slipped into a coma, or Tom Cable has said screw it, fire me if you like, but im benching this worthless piece of crap QB. Im leaning towards the latter. With Al Davis, Cable has to know he would get fired anyway, might as well shake things up before you go.

  14. IWanttoPunchFloriointheFace says: Oct 6, 2009 1:10 PM

    That’s what you get when you give a fat ass, stupid, lazy brother a bunch of cash…he doesn’t give a rat’s ass about winning, all he cares about is all that guaranteed money. Sorry to say, but the Raiders need to cut their losses (again) and admit they made a huge mistake by drafting this retard.

  15. Seeryer says: Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM

    Jemarcus was a scrub at LSU and he is a scrub now in Oakland. Scouts don’t get that you either have or you don’t. Much more tape from LSU showed he didn’t have than ever showed he did. You can’t make chicken salad if all you have is a big turd.

  16. TylerDurden says: Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM

    Thank you for my daily dose of Raider bashing. Apaarently now that the coach is off the front burner and McFumbles is injured, we will now focus on the obvious….What’s a matter, Florio? Did Favre have a good game last night or something?

  17. Big Stretch says: Oct 6, 2009 1:12 PM

    The Raiders are a joke as long as Al Davis is alive. Russell was a product of one good year in college, and he should call Dwayne Bowe every day and thank him for the money he is currently earning…well maybe it’s more like collecting not earning.

  18. moif148 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:15 PM

    “Nice pick there. Well they had the choice of Russell or Young, and both as it stand are considered bust! ”
    Not sure what you mean. Since Vince Young was drafted in 2006 and Russell in 2007. They passed on Joe Thomas, Calvin Johnson, and Adrian Peterson that year to take Russell, though. So that’s some awful drafting.

  19. Turd_Spelunker says: Oct 6, 2009 1:15 PM

    Play 4 wide and start from the shotgun? Have you seen JaMarcus throw the ball? I mean, have you actually seen his accuracy and such?
    What they really need to do is turn him into a lineman, perhaps right guard. But PLEASE do not tell the Raiders. I love to watch him.
    And, yes, shotgun, 4 wide, what receivers will “you” use? Hayward – Bey? How many catches does he have? Johnny Lee Higgins? Oh, the tears of joy. Javon (not walking very well) Walker? This Routt fellow? I mean, does the Raiders HAVE 4 receivers? Oh, I kill me.

  20. Zachary Pennington says: Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM

    Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A in the case for not giving unproven college players more money than most veterans will ever see.

  21. filthylucre says: Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM

    Just another massive turd caught in the eddy of the toilet bowl that is the Oakland Raiders organization.

  22. Hedley Lamarr says: Oct 6, 2009 1:17 PM

    @encinitasraider:
    There’s Kool-aid drinking and then there’s mainlining it directly into your forearm …
    Russell has completed less than 40% of his passes this year, has a 4-1 INT / TD ratio, and his passer rating is approaching his age (or perhaps his IQ). To blame this abysmal performance on ‘skill position players with less than 2 years of experience’ is the blindest case of homerism I’ve seen in a long time.
    You should only hope that the Raiders coaching staff and front office are taking a more objective view of this train wreck unfolding before their eyes.

  23. Youngone says: Oct 6, 2009 1:19 PM

    That’s what happens when you overpay a rookie who has more love for the two huge diamond earrings he wears beneath his helmet than he does the game. I think of the money he gets and think about all the retired players who never saw that kind of money he gets in one year

  24. Levito says: Oct 6, 2009 1:19 PM

    @KingJoe!: no, get your facts straight. It was Russell or Quinn. Quinn still has a chance at being a decent QB. Russell was a lost cause as soon as he held out for his contract.
    @encinitasraider: wow, you might be the only Russell supporter in the league. Yea, the drops are what’s keeping him out of the hall of fame. Every QB suffers drops, and I’m sure the Raiders don’t lead the league in drops.

  25. DcNinerFan says: Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM

    What do you expect, its the Raiders… Thats about all you need to say.

  26. manginiwithcheese says: Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM

    ledtear,
    How will Cleveland have to deal with Quinn next year? By letting him watch Derek Anderson or Sam Bradford next season?
    Umm…not really.
    Quinn isn’t making squat and will be gone next year while your Raiders will be stuck paying Russell all that guaranteed money. Hahahahahaha!!!

  27. Karen Rodgers Mom says: Oct 6, 2009 1:22 PM

    It’s Raiders, do people really care ? It’s not like anyone had high expectations for them.

  28. OrtonsNeckBeard says: Oct 6, 2009 1:24 PM

    MMMMMMM DELICIOUS CAKE NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. Resolution says: Oct 6, 2009 1:25 PM

    Imagine what Tuck, Umenyiora, and Kiwanuka are all anticipating. This game is going to be REALLY entertaining.

  30. artieblanksucsbigD says: Oct 6, 2009 1:26 PM

    i can see it know… the raiders jamarcus russell throws for six touchdowns in the second half and mcfadden ran for two more to win the game and we all missed it because they had cable.

  31. jamaltimore says: Oct 6, 2009 1:26 PM

    You can tell how hard Jamarcus has worked out getting ready for the season when you see the flab from his triceps hanging over his elbow sleeves. I mean he’s lean and mean so obviously he’s missing film and meetings so he can work out! good news is cables on the job and if jamarcus doesn’t straighten up maybe he should punch him in the face.
    Don’t worry though with the Personnel team in Oaktown there’s plenty of talent ready to step in so if Jamarcus doesn’t step up or get beat up he’ll be on the bench watching………….. fill in for him. Doesn’t matter, just win baby!
    signed,
    cryptkeeper

  32. Bwa Ha Ha says: Oct 6, 2009 1:27 PM

    Maybe Cable can slap some sense into him? Before the assault charges get him locked up

  33. jeffz303 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:31 PM

    The lack of a rookie pay scale is the biggest problem in the NFL today.

  34. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: Oct 6, 2009 1:32 PM

    @encinitasraiderfan- The Raiders are bad at everything, so if going 4 wide no huddle 2 minute offense all game long will suddenly make them a good team, then I guess there’s hope for KC, BUF, STL, CLE right? They can all air it out and win.

  35. Gary says: Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM

    the raiders won’t do a damm thing with this guy except to keep talking the company line. cable has no choice because al davis won’t admit russell is a fat ass bust. with an uncapped year they can cut this loser with no salary cap charges….. $32 million down the drain for absolutely nothing….the giants are already in cruise control, this game could set football back decades, oh that might just work for weird Al, he is stuck in 70’s & 80’s now!

  36. TheWizard says: Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM

    Rookie cap or no, the draft is going to be different now.

  37. NittAndy says: Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM

    Ryan Leaf thinks he’s a lazy malcontent.

  38. leatherneck says: Oct 6, 2009 1:41 PM

    The Raiders should trade JaMarcus Russell and Tom Cable to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers.
    The Raiders would get their quarterback, and the Packers would get their offensive linemen.

  39. leatherneck says: Oct 6, 2009 1:43 PM

    Yeah, I know Russell can’t play offensive line, either. That’s why the Packers would trade for him!

  40. troll_aikman8 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:50 PM

    I would pay money to see Russell join a hard-line coached team just for one training camp.
    What a waste of a jersey.

  41. Dewey ActSwooned says: Oct 6, 2009 1:50 PM

    I’m not a big “book by its cover” kinda guy–actions speak louder than words or appearances and all that–but I took ONE look at Russell this season, blinged out during the game, frohawked, demeanor, etc., and I just knew it was all about HIM this season.
    Cable needs to have a serious talk with him.
    And by talk I mean punch him in the jaw.

  42. twinkletoes says: Oct 6, 2009 1:53 PM

    Just imagine what the Giants defense is gonna do to Jamarcus this Sunday in the Meadowlands….
    Ouch.

  43. dolfan565 says: Oct 6, 2009 1:57 PM

    Akili Smith
    Duante Culpepper
    Vince Young
    JaMarcus Russell
    Mike Vick
    Jason Campbell
    Tavaris Jackson
    All big arms that can run… going to revolutionize the NFL… YAWN!!! Give me a pocket passer anyday. (Brees, Manning, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Flacco, Palmer, Cutler, Ryan)
    Wow… this post looks racist but wasn’t intentional.

  44. RaiderChile says: Oct 6, 2009 2:03 PM

    Don’t buy tix to games, purchasing gear (buy used) and stop believing this team will improve until Davis is gone. When you accept this, the NFL world is a great place. Look at future HOFers and enjoy the game first. Rooting for the Raiders is ok but don’t let it take over your life. Not worth it. Not yet. When Davis is gone, we’ll look back and thank him for the good things he’s done and we can forget the rest. Then its up to new ownership and management to bring things up to date. Until then, enjoy the Farve saga, the Manning brothers play, AP tearing it up and LT on his way out! See Brady to Moss, Vikes winning a SB (?), Niners heading to the playoffs (maybe), what coach will get canned (cable), the Steelers, the cheeerleaders, cheerleaders and cheerleaders! Life is WAY TOO SHORT to worship the Raiders or Al Davis. The NFL is bigger and better than both of them!

  45. SheHateMe says: Oct 6, 2009 2:07 PM

    To Youngone:
    I agree. What’s with this diamond earring garbage that afflicts all these young guys? I come from a generation when men wore them hardly at all, and if so, at least only in one ear. I have an immediate distaste and dislike for a man (of any race or age) that I see with jewelry in his ear(s).
    Having said that, I can accept a guy who chooses to do this if he at least takes care of business at his chosen profession. Ray Lewis is basically a thug and wears one as well, but his intense, passionate play, and the fact that he obviously loves the game, and cares about winning, has made me an admirer.
    This piece of garbage who should in all fairness be known as ‘JaBigMac’ is a stupid, lazy ignoramus, who is an embarrasment to the NFL, his race, and anything else he is associated with. Since I can’t stand Oakland (either the city or the team) or Al Davis, I look forward to many more embarassing Raider losses.
    SheHateMe Math:
    Al Davis + Oakland + Raiders + JaDoubleQuarterPounder Russel =
    Best Comedy Show on Planet

  46. leatherneck says: Oct 6, 2009 2:08 PM

    Raiders fans could use some good news. In yesterday’s games, JaMarcus Russell’s quarterback rating (48) was higher than Mark Sanchez’s (27).

  47. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: Oct 6, 2009 2:20 PM

    Dolfan565- where did you get the idea that JRussell can run no one ever ever ever calls him a dual threat. And to compare Jamarcus to Culpepper and Campbell is crazy. Jamarcus is posting historic numbers when it comes to being a chump- much like Akili and Leaf.

  48. longrodvanhungendong says: Oct 6, 2009 2:20 PM

    “i can see it know… the raiders jamarcus russell throws for six touchdowns in the second half and mcfadden ran for two more to win the game and we all missed it because they had cable.”
    Now that was a good comment!!!!! Russell can throw the ball really, really far. Thats all it takes to be an NFL QB…..in Oakland.

  49. buzzbissinger says: Oct 6, 2009 2:24 PM

    …ahhh, the daily dose of intelect from all the arm chair GMs at PFT…

  50. SheHateMe says: Oct 6, 2009 2:25 PM

    To dolfan65:
    Whew!
    You’re saying it all without saying it my friend! I am thankful that there a a few exceptions (Warren Moon, David Gerrard, neither one a superstar, but decent, competent quarterbacks, and good men as well).
    However, I think that the problem is that black quarterbacks (lets call a spade a spade here, shall we) tend to be chosen for their exceptional athleticism, and at a young age, when such things matter, and since, for the most part, they grow up in environments where said athleticism is valued more highly than more ‘cerebral’ pursuits, they end with a disadvantage when they hit the NFL. This is regardless of how successful they were at the college level, where athleticism can often trump discipline and the need to learn the intracasies of a pro-style offense.

  51. KILLER FIN says: Oct 6, 2009 2:31 PM

    Better get Garcia back & bench Russell!!! the only hope of winning at this point!!!

  52. paranoidandroid says: Oct 6, 2009 2:45 PM

    you know, he wasn’t that great at lsu. he was a product of a system and that system isn’t in place in oakland. kiffin begged them not to draft him, looks like he knew what he was talkin about.
    i dislike oakland more than a lot of teams because of al davis. i know thats not fair, its not the players’ fault davis is a pile of sh*t. i wish nothing but failure as long as davis is the owner.

  53. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 2:47 PM

    does anyone that post here have a mind of thier own? You guys watch games or just go off reports from ESPN or NFLN?
    Russell had 8 great throws dropped by his rookie WR’s. So why dont you add 9 onto his total and another 100 yards in dropped balls. This will happen when most of your Offensive skilled positions have less than 2 years NFL experience…

  54. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 2:49 PM

    What was Sanchez QB rating last Sunday?
    27…..lol..where are all the articles about that….

  55. eeerockski says: Oct 6, 2009 2:50 PM

    Tim Tebow to the Raiders!

  56. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 2:52 PM

    2nd year rookie RB’s ,a QB that’s started 19NFL games, and 2 rookie WR’s….
    enough said.

  57. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 2:54 PM

    doltfan65 is a typical charger fan…
    doesnt have any idea what he talkin about….
    how are those KKK meetings?

  58. Vaxman says: Oct 6, 2009 3:01 PM

    Hahahaha…. Stories about the raiders… I love how one of the black bung hole faithfull had the nuts to try and justify Jamarcass’s poor play by comparing it to the browns… Another shitty team… Raiders fans suck!!! Raiders franchise sucks, ownership sucks…. God… Never gets old. Just win baby

  59. DJ Proteus says: Oct 6, 2009 3:04 PM

    Raides fans: The problem is Al Davis. These Raiders aren’t like the 70’s Radiers because Al Davis isn’t like the 70’s Al Davis. Running backs lose a step at age 30. Owners lose a step at age…………

  60. hendeeze says: Oct 6, 2009 3:08 PM

    2nd year rookie RB’s ,a QB that’s started 19NFL games, and 2 rookie WR’s….
    enough said.
    280lb QB enough said

  61. FastEddy415 says: Oct 6, 2009 3:12 PM

    Russell had the greatest game of his life when he smashed Norte Dame in the Suger Bowl. That was it. The rest of his time at LSU was up, down, forwards, backwards. Scouts should have known better.
    See why Kiffin wanted Calvin Johnson instead.

  62. BDiddy says: Oct 6, 2009 3:14 PM

    “You can’t make chicken salad if all you have is a big turd.”
    – Seeryer, October 6, 2009 1:11 PM
    Words of wisdom.

  63. PimP JuicE MaN says: Oct 6, 2009 3:17 PM

    dolfan565, only a douche bag would write what you did, you miserable sack of sheet.u r a punk
    and you are protected by your screen, you would never say that in a public place and you know exactly what you were doing.

  64. hendeeze says: Oct 6, 2009 3:24 PM

    What was Sanchez QB rating last Sunday?
    27…..lol..where are all the articles about that….
    Sanchez shows up to meetings, he isnt overweight, and the general perception is he is trying. JaMarcus is a fat overweight wannabe Warren Sapp, but he just cant dance

  65. rbais2 says: Oct 6, 2009 3:26 PM

    I have a NEW RULE for JaMarcus.
    Anytime he shows up overweight he has to wear a pink women’s one piece bathing suit.
    Then everyone will laugh at him for playing like crap while looking like Queen Latifah on the beach.
    http://curvature.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/queen-latifah-3.jpg

  66. rbais2 says: Oct 6, 2009 3:26 PM

    I have a NEW RULE for JaMarcus.
    Anytime he shows up overweight he has to wear a pink women’s one piece bathing suit.
    Then everyone will laugh at him for playing like crap while looking like Queen Latifah on the beach.

  67. Samuel L. Bronkowitz says: Oct 6, 2009 3:28 PM

    Serious question here… is it possible he’s got a substance abuse problem? I’ve seen coworkers like this that seemingly had the tools to do the job but failed miserably because of drug abuse.
    /just sayin…

  68. Junior says: Oct 6, 2009 3:31 PM

    I love how a bunch of you idiots call Russell a horrible draft pick. Of course you can, hind-sight is 20/20. There weren’t too many people saying that Russell was a bad pick back in 2007. Everyone knew the Raiders needed a QB and it was between Russell and Quinn. Most “experts” had Russell leap-frogging Quinn as the draft approached. It’s easy to say now that he was a bad pick. Oh yeah, I know, not you, you have been saying all along that he was a bad pick. Sure you have. Get over yourself.
    It’s easy to say now that they should have drafted Calvin Johnson then picked Trent Edwards later. Not so easy when you haven’t seen them play in the NFL.
    Perfect reason for a rookie wage scale.

  69. Yardline says: Oct 6, 2009 3:36 PM

    I can see JaMarcus sitting at home in front of the 80 inch plasma, eating a package of ding-dongs and thinking to himself, “I can’t believe they actually paid me this much guaranteed money. Didn’t they know I was a fat, worthless piece of shit? It was all on tape! I love being a Raider woohoo!”

  70. Dewey ActSwooned says: Oct 6, 2009 4:04 PM

    buzzbissinger says:
    October 6, 2009 2:24 PM
    …ahhh, the daily dose of intelect from all the arm chair GMs at PFT…
    ______________________________
    *intellect

  71. schism says: Oct 6, 2009 4:12 PM

    what a bust.

  72. dolfan565 says: Oct 6, 2009 4:18 PM

    No PimP… I don’t hide behind my computer and I would definitely say that in public.
    If you’d take any of these QBs (Akili Smith, Duante Culpepper, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell, Tavaris Jackson) over these QBs (Brees, Manning, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Flacco, Palmer, Cutler, Ryan) then you are an idiot.
    Play the race card if you want… I only want one thing out of my QB, and that’s WINS (regardless of his skin tone).

  73. Yardline says: Oct 6, 2009 4:19 PM

    Junior – Interesting what you said about nobody thinking that Russell was a bust before the draft. Wrong. I did. It was obvious. My friends and I would constantly ask the question, “what does this guy have other than arm strength and a big body?” Accuracy? Hell no. Smarts? are you joking? I couldn’t believe he went that high. It was obvious from the beginning.

  74. encinitasraider says: Oct 6, 2009 4:27 PM

    Sanchez 27 QB rating and he studies….lol

  75. RWoodson26 says: Oct 6, 2009 4:41 PM

    I have been following this Russell stuff on RaiderBeat.com and find it fascinating how a No. 1 pick can flame out so badly. Go check it out on RaiderBeat. com. They have a ton of stories on Russell and what coach Tom Cable and others are saying about him. Amazing.

  76. Slow Joe says: Oct 6, 2009 4:47 PM

    i can see it know… the raiders jamarcus russell throws for six touchdowns in the second half and mcfadden ran for two more to win the game and we all missed it because they had cable.
    That is a hilarious post.
    Unfortunately, the bigger problem is Al Davis.

  77. Hedley Lamarr says: Oct 6, 2009 4:58 PM

    @encinatasraider:
    Just quit talking … you’re only digging the hole deeper.
    “a QB that’s started 19NFL games” … actually it’s 20 games, and he’s amassed a regular season record of 6-14 over those 3 seasons (no playoff games … obviously). That should be plenty of experience to begin to emerge as either a playmaker or a bust.
    Conversely, in Roethlisberger’s first 20 regular season starts, he went 19-1 (18-2 if including playoffs).
    uhm … enough said. Russell is an unequivocal bust.

  78. jdd48 says: Oct 6, 2009 5:05 PM

    Raider nation is just as delusional as Al Davis if they think that Tim Tebow will be their savior.

  79. sam93505 says: Oct 6, 2009 5:11 PM

    As a life-long (and now doomed) Raider fan, all I can say is “AT LEAST OUR COACH CAN KICK YOUR COACH’S ASS!!!”
    Well, at least the Raiders have that much going for them….

  80. Kidekk says: Oct 6, 2009 5:33 PM

    dolfan565 says:
    October 6, 2009 4:18 PM
    No PimP… I don’t hide behind my computer and I would definitely say that in public.
    If you’d take any of these QBs (Akili Smith, Duante Culpepper, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell, Tavaris Jackson) over these QBs (Brees, Manning, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Flacco, Palmer, Cutler, Ryan) then you are an idiot.
    Play the race card if you want… I only want one thing out of my QB, and that’s WINS (regardless of his skin tone).
    ——————-
    Well, when you only name black QBs that aren’t doing too well (how could you leave out Cade McNown?), then only name white QBs who are doing well (and your argument still carries no water because it is all a numbers game), I think it’s obvious what you’re doing. So you are in fact making it a black/white thing. It would be better if you just came out and said it.
    And Flacco, and Ryan have had one good season. You know who else had good seasons as QBs in the league? Aaron Brooks, Derek Anderson, and a whole bunch of other has beens that have come and gone in the NFL. Let them establish a career before you go annointing them. That being said, I think that Flacco is and will be a great QB. I’m not that high on Ryan though.

  81. Route36West says: Oct 6, 2009 5:53 PM

    I dont know why I feel this way but Russel stikes me as a guy who is totally delusional about his status as an NFL QB. It just feels to me like he thinks hes one of best QB’s in the league and hes going to be a starter for years and years to come. I think he believes he’s been playing good and that he doesnt understand what all the fuss is about. I feel like that’s why he doesnt go to meetings, stay thin, or put in the time he feels like he doesnt need it. That he is great just the way he is.
    I mean he either has to be totally oblivous to how he’s playing or he just doesnt care. Hopefully he just doesnt get it b/c that can be fixed. Not caring if you win or not or if your one of the best at what you do is a personality trait and I dont think you can change that.

  82. moif148 says: Oct 6, 2009 6:12 PM

    I’d take Warren Moon over Ryan Leaf any day!

  83. Backinthesaddle says: Oct 6, 2009 8:46 PM

    He’s a bum.

  84. Iceberg34 says: Oct 6, 2009 9:49 PM

    On the Steelers, Rahard Mendenhall was lazy and he got benched. On the Raiders, you get named starting quarterback–and get to keep your job after 4 weeks of sub 40% completion.
    Not to mention they gave $60 million to a guy that throws with the accuracy of a sawed off shotgun.

  85. besdayz says: Oct 6, 2009 10:21 PM

    he had severe deficiencies coming out of lsu that the raiders overlooked to take him #1.
    at lsu, he locked into wrs. took too long to make decisions. lacked touch on shorter routes, instead choosing to rocket the ball.
    there is a reason why lsu won the bcs when he left and matt flynn commandeered basically the same team.
    his IQ based on his command of the english language in interviews doesn’t bode well in a league where the qb should be the smartest/sharpest guy in the room….

  86. raideralex99 says: Oct 7, 2009 12:11 AM

    dolfan565 says:
    October 6, 2009 4:18 PM
    If you’d take any of these QBs (Akili Smith, Duante Culpepper, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Mike Vick, Jason Campbell, Tavaris Jackson) over these QBs (Brees, Manning, Manning, Brady, Rivers, Flacco, Palmer, Cutler, Ryan) then you are an idiot.
    Play the race card if you want… I only want one thing out of my QB, and that’s WINS (regardless of his skin tone).
    ——————————————————–
    Shhhhhhhhhhhh … don’t tell anyone but I always bet agianst the those wannabe QBs and I win over 80% of the time .. try it … it works.
    Just look at the Vikings … they would be 2-2 will Tavaris.

  87. AutumnWind999 says: Oct 7, 2009 1:44 AM

    Sorry Florio,
    I don’t buy this “league source” crap at all.
    Who’s your source?
    Could be someone with an ax to grind with the Raiders. Could be someone with something to gain by making JaMarcus look bad.
    I know this is more of a gossip and rumors site, but pretending that the report of some anonymous character should be taken as gospel truth as you do when you say “Clearly, Russell hasn’t embraced the realities of his job,” is shabby journalism, even by your dreadfully low standards.
    This just in: a blogosphere source tells me that Florio’s sources are non-existant and he’s just making crap up. Clearly, Florio hasn’t embraced the realities of his job.

  88. Merc says: Oct 7, 2009 2:08 AM

    I would think that JaMarcus Russell would be afraid for his life, since he shares the same lockerroom with Greg Ellis & Richard Seymour. Maybe the vets should kick his spoiled, oversized ass.
    Charles Haley was a ferocious M.F. It was often said that his own teammates were in fear for their safety when the team was playing poorly. Charles would put the fear of GAWD into them if they “pussy-footed” like Tinkerbell Russell. The vets have to step up & treat this pimp like the true 25 yr old that he is. Maybe Osi will put the fear of GAWD into Tinkerbell this weekend. He needs to get stomped.
    I would like to point out to Tinkerbell that his film is going to be around longer than he is. WAYYY longer. When he is in his 60’s, he’ll still get to see & hear the NFL Network countdown “The top 10 BUSTS of all time. At #1, JAMARCUS RUSSELL…”

  89. TreScott says: Oct 7, 2009 7:58 PM

    @encinitasraider:
    Wow.
    The selection of Heyward-Bey was bad because the boy can’t catch. A receiver without good hands is like a QB without an accurate arm.
    Regarding Russell, even if he had a decent arm, his football instincts are just terrible and he’s not even a good athlete. Having a low football IQ at the QB position is a recipe for disaster and the fact that he can’t hit an open receiver 7 yards downfield is a HUGE problem, my friend.

  90. TreScott says: Oct 7, 2009 8:00 PM

    To put it in perspective, my 7-year-old daughter – who just started playing backyard football this year – makes better reads, has better timing, and throws a more accurate ball than Russell.
    When the receiver comes out of his cut, she’s got the ball there for him, every time.

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