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Pereira defends the protection of quarterbacks

In his weekly “Official Review” segment on NFL Network’s Total Access, V.P. of officiating Mike Pereira addressed the recent controversy regarding the protection of quarterbacks.

The video can be seen right here on NFL.com.

The issue hit the front burner after Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis sounded off following Sunday’s loss to the Patriots, based on multiple flags thrown against Baltimore for hits on New England quarterback Tom Brady.

Pereira calls the matter a judgment call on the part of the officials, and that the officials are told to err on the side of protecting the passer.

“I will support that,” Pereira said, “because we have set a target for players [when hitting quarterbacks], and that target essentially is below the neck and above the knees.  And when that area gets challenged, when there is contact below the knees, that’s something we are going to support because we want players in the game.”  

Pereira also mentioned that there are rules protecting defensive players against unnecessary knee and head injuries, too.

As to the argument that the flags were thrown in the Ravens-Patriots game because of Tom Brady’s reputation and accomplishments, Pereira called the notion “ludicrous.”

But Pereira also conceded that several other quarterback hits over the weekend should have resulted in penalties, a point that ESPN capably has made multiple times this week.  (And there’s no sarcasm there — they’ve done a great job of showing video of quarterback hits in other games that didn’t draw penalties.)
 
Though we’re still troubled by the fact that Panthers defensive tackle Damione Lewis ran across the goal line to dive on Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb in Week One, the difference is that McNabb was a runner at that time, not a passer.  (Still, the hit was extremely late and should have drawn a flag and a fine.) 

Passers are acting against every self-preservation instinct by standing in a swirling mass of large men, some of whom are trying desperately to hit him and some of whom are trying to protect him.  To be effective, the passer must be able to have a certain amount of confidence that he won’t be hit too low or too high and that, if he is, his team will derive a 15-yard advantage for the trouble.

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  1. Lee Harvey says: Oct 8, 2009 11:51 AM

    It’s amazing to me that they sit and talk about this subject and NOT address Cushing throwing down Russell by his head on Sunday. No flag thrown. So the NFL is protecting the quarterback or the NFL is protecting it’s favorite quarterbacks. Florio, PLEASE watch the Texans/Raiders game and comment on the officiating. I’m BEGGING you. It has to be brought to light.

  2. Citizen Strange says: Oct 8, 2009 11:54 AM

    A pet peeve of mine is the way the officials call the QB going down on purpose.
    The ball should be marked exactly where the QB first goes down and the most a defender should do is just touch him with a hand but the defender doesn’t even really have to touch him at all and he will still be down automatically.
    Instead, I see QBs ALWAYS getting nailed (or at least dove on by the defender) while on the ground and the refs not throwing a flag and also marking the ball near the end of the QB’s slide instead of where it starts. In other words called wrong on both counts.

  3. chapnasty says: Oct 8, 2009 11:54 AM

    Football is getting worse and worse with these penalties. I am sick and tired of QB’s being treated like women on the field. They can and should be hit just like everyone else who plays the game.

  4. old ghost says: Oct 8, 2009 11:57 AM

    I think its time for the NFL to unload this spin doctor. It appears Pereira is starting to believe his own line of bull. Mr. Pereira what is ludicrous is the boloney you package every week, telling fans that what their seeing is not what your seeing, I’ll be the one to tell you what is true. For those that believe and trust this con-artist there is a bridge in Brooklyn waiting to be sold.

  5. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 8, 2009 11:58 AM

    It is kinda a toss up when you have someone like Rapelesthburger, Garrard or McNabb who are big boys and can shed tackles.
    Not saying Brady or Manning will shed tacklers anytime soon, players know this, but Favre’s play is a good example. Eludes two tacklers and makes a great play.
    Might be a bit of a stretch, but when some QB’s hold onto the ball until the lest possible second and others are elusive there is too much leeway for “roughing the passer.”
    Above the neck and below the knees is fine, but should be applied consistently for all players and not heavier when against QB’s.
    The NFL fined Sanchez $5,000 for the cheap shot.

  6. Child Please! says: Oct 8, 2009 12:02 PM

    Ron Winter didn’t want to get the wrath of Goodell for not obeying Brady’s orders.

  7. HarrisonHits says: Oct 8, 2009 12:05 PM

    And I’m still disturbed that you like all the other press continue to support the Raven’s whining while failing to mention that Mike Wright of the Pats also drew a similar flag for roughing and was in fact fined 5k for it on top of the flag.
    Mike you used to be fairly even handed in your coverage and criticism, but you have now written several posts the last several days on this without ever once mentioning the Pats got a similar flag. The fact that you and the rest of the press makes this sound entirely one sided is crap reporting to be polite about it.
    And of course the Patriot players and staff NEVER blame the refs for a loss but always accept the blame as their responsibility. Its sad and pathetic that Ray Lewis and the rest of the Ravens whine about the refs like they do instead of acting like men and taking the blame for their loss.
    They could easily have won the game if their receiver had not dropped an easy catch that would have made it 1st and goal with plenty of time left to score. Yet their player’s failure isn’t why they lost, its the refs. Yeah right, what a bunch of whining douche bags.

  8. ballhawk1 says: Oct 8, 2009 12:07 PM

    Pereira must think the fans are idiots. McNabb, Romo, Big Ben, and any other qb that can scramble dont EVER get those calls. The stationary statues like Manning (both), Brady, and others get them as they want to protect an elite few. On a very similar play McNabb got hurt on Hasselbeck got broken ribs, and I have seen guys shooting themselves like missiles at Big Ben and Romo while they are either going down or on the ground. That is what has to stop…the idea because you can scramble and you may be “running” the game changes…..what a crock.

  9. albialbi says: Oct 8, 2009 12:21 PM

    What Pereira meant by his statement:
    We are protecting Brady because he brings the leage a lot of money. Money that we lost last year due to his injury. We are also considering giving Brady extra offical power by letting him tell the officials when he wants a flag so they can give it to him. We do not care about the outcome of the games, we just want Brady on the superbowl no matter what.

  10. KILLER FIN says: Oct 8, 2009 12:24 PM

    ANOTHER BRADY RULE IN EFFECT ASAFP!!!

  11. Krow says: Oct 8, 2009 12:29 PM

    I don’t know what’s worse… the wimpy calls or the cowardly slide. Man up QBs… you too Mr. Bundchen.

  12. RaiderChile says: Oct 8, 2009 12:30 PM

    As the NFL protects it’s present crop of QB’s, make you want to rethink how QBs are rated on the all time list. Look at the QBs before the “protection” rules. These guy were putting up numbers without the help of rules and referees. Can a player like Brady, Big Ben, the Mannings, River, Brees etc. could they be productive QBs in the era prior to the rule changes? I think most of today’s NFL star QBs would not have the championships, the stats or longevity. I see Farve, at his peek, going back in time and producing. Brady & Brees? I don’t think so. Big Ben and Rivers? Maybe. I’d like to know when these rules were changed and what QBs played prior to these rules..

  13. encinitasraider says: Oct 8, 2009 12:35 PM

    how about the non-call that Cushing should of had?I thought a hand to the head is automatic flag?

  14. Ralphie says: Oct 8, 2009 12:38 PM

    Belichick told his players well before the game Sunday that Ron Winters crew would call a tight game. He noted that in 2007 and 2008 Winter’s crew lead the NFL in penalties / fouls called…especially personal fouls and roughing. Winters crew is 2nd so far in the NFL this year in penalties assessed after 4 games. Why the habitually call the most penalties is an argument for debate. Obviously counting 3007-2008-2009 that’s 68 games they’ve worked to get that rank (not counting playoffs).
    To expect that any pro sport would have all their officiating crews perfectly aligned to call the same amount of penalties to make everyone happy would be absurd. They call them as they see them. This argument has been going on for years in all sports.
    In baseball players /teams know the strike-zone that the Ump will cal. It varies from Ump to Ump. Obviously Belichick is way ahead of the game as he even charts PF Referees. And obviously John Harbaugh is still a second year coach with a lot to learn (and a big mouth). You don’t bitch out the tightest officiating crew hands-down in the league and not expect to get a bench penalty. You prepare your players to the fact that the the toughest officiating crew will be on the field today and prepare them for it – which Harbaugh neglected to do.
    Then when things don’t go your way because you neglected to prepare your team properly for the consequences you make excuses, point the finger at the other guy and you and your fans whine about it all week.

  15. Boyzfan94 says: Oct 8, 2009 12:40 PM

    I saw this interview with Rich Eisen on NFL Network. You would think Eisen would ask him the reason Suggs fell at Bradys knees was because he was freaking PUSHED into Brady….but no, Neither Pereria or Eisen every bring up the topic…it was clear as day on the replay Suggs was pushed from behind…what a load of BS…

  16. Peter_Freakin_Griffin says: Oct 8, 2009 12:40 PM

    Take 2 seconds and watch the freakin video. Suggs was not blocked, pushed or tripped. He clearly dove for Brady’s knees. He should have been fined. Nuff said.

  17. sonvar says: Oct 8, 2009 12:41 PM

    It just seems favortism to me overall. Brady gets swiped at the leg in the middle of a pass which is roughing the passer but yet as you mention McNabb runs in for a touchdown, is tackled, gets hit by another player 5 second later, and no penalty. I hate to see any QB go down but be consistent and stop favoring some of the QBs.

  18. HarrisonHits says: Oct 8, 2009 12:41 PM

    To the people calling this the Brady rule, try calling it the Carson Palmer rule because it was after Palmer was knocked out they really started emphasizing low tackles against QBs.

  19. borg says: Oct 8, 2009 12:43 PM

    In all seriousness, Florio….your last paragraph may be your best work ever. You sold me on max protection for the QB

  20. RaiderChile says: Oct 8, 2009 12:46 PM

    Lee Harvey
    “Florio, PLEASE watch the Texans/Raiders game and comment on the officiating. I’m BEGGING you. It has to be brought to light.”
    You sound like a guy who got dumped and is pleading for your ex to take your sorry ass back! Lee, get over it! The Raiders STINK! Russell needs to get bashed in the head and knocked outta of the game. He STINKS! All you babies out there complaining about the NFL vs. the Raiders is pathetic.
    Yeah, there are bad calls and stuff like that but who cares if the Raiders are putting up points, kickin’ butt and winning with those bad calls. But they aren’t, so lets blame the officials. Pathetic Raider fan mentality.
    When Jerry Rice was with the Raiders, Tim Brown told him he won’t get the calls he was used to getting while with the Niners. Rice didn’t care, he went out and played harder. They were still winning while getting crappy calls.
    I am a Raider fan. But not like the losers who support Davis and Russell and still complaining about the officials. Get over it and admit that Davis id DONE and the team STINKS now. Get on board with that and wait out the Davis era. Life is WAY TOO SHORT to let the Raiders bring you down or piss you off.

  21. RaiderChile says: Oct 8, 2009 12:47 PM

    Lee Harvey
    “Florio, PLEASE watch the Texans/Raiders game and comment on the officiating. I’m BEGGING you. It has to be brought to light.”
    You sound like a guy who got dumped and is pleading for your ex to take your sorry ass back! Lee, get over it! The Raiders STINK! Russell needs to get bashed in the head and knocked outta of the game. He STINKS! All you babies out there complaining about the NFL vs. the Raiders is pathetic.
    Yeah, there are bad calls and stuff like that but who cares if the Raiders are putting up points, kickin’ butt and winning with those bad calls. But they aren’t, so lets blame the officials. Pathetic Raider fan mentality.
    When Jerry Rice was with the Raiders, Tim Brown told him he won’t get the calls he was used to getting while with the Niners. Rice didn’t care, he went out and played harder. They were still winning while getting crappy calls.
    I am a Raider fan. But not like the losers who support Davis and Russell and still complaining about the officials. Get over it and admit that Davis id DONE and the team STINKS now. Get on board with that and wait out the Davis era. Life is WAY TOO SHORT to let the Raiders bring you down or piss you off.

  22. stanjam says: Oct 8, 2009 12:49 PM

    I am pretty miffed at the media who keep showing this game, and the Ravens hitting Brady and being called, but the play showing Flacco getting touched in the helmet and getting a flag is NEVER shown. WHY? Because it nullifies their case that Brady is being protected more than other quarterbacks. It shows that THIS officiating crew called it equally on both sides of the field. Yes, it was a bit much, but on BOTH sides. Suggs should have been called, but not the other two. Lewis should have been called when he dove at Brady, who was sliding. He intentionally went low to hit Brady in the back WHILE he was sliding, a blatant penalty. OR, if he indeed started his dive when Brady was running, he was going for the knees. Brady was lucky that he slid lower than he normally does.

  23. ryanmc says: Oct 8, 2009 12:54 PM

    First time I’m seeing the Suggs play, and I can’t believe people are arguing this one. He clearly dives directly and unnecessarily for the knees. Correct call by the official and I hope a fine on Suggs followed during the week. No excuse for deliberately trying to take a guy out like that, and the fact that he failed because Brady managed to move enough to avoid serious injury shouldn’t excuse it.
    I agree that the hit on McNabb should have been called, but unfortunately late flopping on players is very, very common and hasn’t become a point of emphasis yet. If it does, there will be about 20 flags a game for a while, and people will complain about that then.

  24. jamaltimore says: Oct 8, 2009 12:56 PM

    harrisonhits:
    Brady felt his knee get brushed and whined to the official who immediately made the call. Mr bunchen’s getting softer and any body watching knows it. Just wish Ray would have taken him out when he tried to run in the first touchdown before the goal line sneak.
    On the Pat’s roughing play the first guy hit flacco in the head and then the second guy hit hiim in the head while he was down. should have been two fouls or second guy thrown out of the game. I’m sure if suggs and ngata did the same thing to Mr. Bunchen that’s how it would have been called.
    Not to mention the pass interfence calls either called called against the ravens or not called on the pats. Specifically the endzone play with clayton’s arm being held and he still almost made the catch with one hand. Then you through in a 15 yard penalty on the COACH for I guess cursing at the refs? That’s when they know they suck that they can’t take coaches yelling at them.
    But you’re correct on one thing. Even with all the terrible officiating, bad spots and “Mr. Bunchen Rules” the ravens still should have won the game.

  25. ballhawk1 says: Oct 8, 2009 12:56 PM

    NEXT RULE: Tackle a qb from behind and you are suspended plus fined…mark it down! Qbs will have flags on before too long. As I recall it was the Panthers in03 or 04 that dove on McNabb to hurt his back and he was out of that game as well. There is clearly a double standard for the “less” athletic qbs in the league. What a crock……Maybe all qbs should stand like statues and wait to see if they get hit….heaven forbid you actually try to avoid being whacked

  26. FireJerryJones says: Oct 8, 2009 1:01 PM

    Video is right here. Nobody pushed him, Suggs is just trying to put a thought in Brady’s head as he ‘brushes’ by… Got caught. Pretty simple. It took Carson Palmer a couple of years to stop worrying about guys around his ankles and knees…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnmGSMccDuU
    Nobody cares about whether Mike Wright hit Flacco or got fined.
    You got to credit Belichick for getting his team ready for a refereeing crew that calls a lot of penalties.
    Harbaugh got schooled there. Harbaugh even took an unsportmanlike penalty, which cost his team 15 yards.
    At the end of the game, Flacco was driving, and his receiver dropped a pass on 4th down.
    Ravens should’ve won this game. They’ve got to look in the mirror and execute instead of moaning about the refs.
    Poor leadership.

  27. Fan_Of_ Four says: Oct 8, 2009 1:06 PM

    The refs just need to get better at letting the ticky tacky calls go. When you have millions upon millions of dollars invested in QB’s its had for me to disagree with the owners wanting their QBs protected. Could your Team afford to lose its starting QB ?
    I didn’t think so.

  28. KILLER FIN says: Oct 8, 2009 1:10 PM

    Suggs went off to one side if he didn’t he would have taken out both knees!!! it wasn’t like he tried to take him out on deliberatly!!!

  29. leatherneck says: Oct 8, 2009 1:19 PM

    It is starting to appear to me that there is small, screaming fraction of NFL fans that want to see players knocked out of the game, or even have their careers ruined.
    To that kind of fan, I would say this. You are a cancer on football. You are a cancer on sports.
    Most football fans want to see a game between two teams that have their best players available and try their hardest within the rules to win. Every NFL team thinks that they currently have the best 53 guys they can get at that moment. There are lots of high-level athletes who would love to play in the NFL if they were given an opportunity.
    It is bad whenever a Brian Urlacher or Tom Brady or Donovan McNabb or any other player gets hurt. Sometimes injuries happen, but any avoidable injury should be avoided.
    When Lawrence Taylor broke Joe Theismann’s leg, guess who was frantically yelling and waving at the Redskins sideline for medical help, before anyone else knew what was going on? That would be Lawrence Taylor. He did not intend to hurt Theismann. It just happened that way.
    Football is a sport. It is a dangerous sport, but it is supposed to be a sport first and dangerous second.
    I recognize and respect when Ray Lewis says that the rules go too far in protecting quarterbacks. That is his opinion.
    It appears that some fans are rallying around that for the wrong reason, however, because they would prefer to see blood in the water than a well-played football game.

  30. GRpatriot says: Oct 8, 2009 1:26 PM

    First, whoever said, Suggs was pushed into Brady needs to step away from the pipe!
    He’s standing there, Neal has his back turned to Suggs. The next thing you know Suggs is taking the dive at Brady’s knees. He wasn’t pushed and it was pretty clear what he was doing!
    While Mike Wright got tagged 5K for a small tap to the head, Suggs didn’t get fined? I would think at least 5K is appropriate, considering what was in his mind! Had he run at Brady he would’ve been legal! He didn’t, he lunged from the ground! A place he got to on his own.(point of emphasis this year!)
    Fist pump! Rey Lewis calling someone out for a fist pump has got to be the most laughable thing I’ve ever heard! Mr. Dancing Man Rey, Rey…doing his look at me I’m cool dance! Shaking his booty for the locals in B-more. All that non-sense is ok, but if a call goes your way whatever you do don’t do a little fist pump. Rey, Rey will get mad! Scary…
    I wonder what Rey would say if Wright drove Flacco into the ground? Earned that 5K fine..Maybe if the Ravens franchise QB missed a year, he feel a little differently about it!

  31. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 8, 2009 1:26 PM

    Here’s your chance Denver, the refs are gonna back off this week, everybody’s watching and they know it.
    Go for the knees.

  32. Ralphie says: Oct 8, 2009 1:37 PM

    jamaltimore says: “…the ravens still should have won the game.”
    ___________________________
    But they didn’t…and that’s all that counts. The NFL just called and they said that they refuse to make that record 4-0 to stop you from whining. The Ravens stay at 3-1.
    I remember last year after a couple of the Raven’s losses to the Steelers (3 losses to the Steelers last year, correct?) the Ravens fans whining was off the charts on this site, but not as bad as this week. After the Pats beat the Ravens in 2007 the Ravens whining was off the charts. WTF is the whining and excuse affliction that you and this team carry? It’s like you all have an extra “whining” chromosome.

  33. mattitude says: Oct 8, 2009 1:44 PM

    HarrisonHits says:
    October 8, 2009 12:41 PM
    To the people calling this the Brady rule, try calling it the Carson Palmer rule because it was after Palmer was knocked out they really started emphasizing low tackles against QBs.
    ———————————————–
    Ha. You wish. Palmer was alone in that playoff game, with only Von Oelhoffen near him as he threw the pass. Von Oelhoffen grabbed Palmer’s ankle and pressed his shoulder into the side of his knee. No flag was thrown and Palmer was done for the postseason. This is a Tom Brady rule, as Brady pandered to the ref immediately after he had to move slightly to the left in order to avoid Suggs. Gee, Tom, we’re all sorry you were inconvenienced by having to move one step laterally, so you wouldn’t get brushed by a linebacker during a football game.

  34. Iā™„Patriots says: Oct 8, 2009 1:55 PM

    The refs in the NFL need to be consistent. That is the biggest problem here. This includes fines etc.
    Great post by leatherneck. No one should be cheering on injuries. As much as I despise the Jets I don’t want to see Sanchez or anyone else get hurt. What is wrong with people?
    Quit bitching Ravens!!! Every team has been on the receiving end of a bad call and vice versa.

  35. gallaghedj311 says: Oct 8, 2009 1:58 PM

    I will agree that there needs to be more consistency. I agree that mobile QBs don’t get nearly as many calls that pocket passers get. Having to watch Donovan McNabb week in and week out for the past 10 years is a very good example. I can’t tell you how many times I see the Eagles defense get flagged for ticky tack fouls on QBs, yet McNabb never gets those calls. I’d love to see a statistic that shows how many roughing the passer flags have been thrown over the course of a QBs career. McNabb NEVER gets those calls. And I am in no way a fan of McNabb either. I’m ready to pack his bags and crown King Kolb.

  36. davis1281 says: Oct 8, 2009 2:00 PM

    Can we get over the “Ravens should have won” did he drop the ball in the endzone? No, do you know for a fact that if he cought it they still would ahve scored? No.
    How about the fact that they had not aloud a rushing td in there 1st 3 games and the Pats had 2 or they had scored 30 or more points in there 1st 3 games but were held to 14 on offense
    If you know for a fact they would have won your in the wrong line of work.
    Get over it stop crying, save the crying for when Pittsburgh beats you AGAIN!!!

  37. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 8, 2009 2:01 PM

    “# HarrisonHits says: October 8, 2009 12:41 PM
    To the people calling this the Brady rule, try calling it the Carson Palmer rule because it was after Palmer was knocked out they really started emphasizing low tackles against QBs.”
    Maybe so, it may have started with Palmer, but it was Brady that perfected the “please, PLEEZE don’t hit me” wimp routine. The name stays. ;)

  38. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 8, 2009 2:05 PM

    leatherneck says: October 8, 2009 1:19 PM
    ..there is small, screaming fraction of NFL fans that want to see players knocked out of the game, or even have their careers ruined.
    To that kind of fan, I would say this. You are a cancer on football. You are a cancer on sports. ”
    As are teams whose coaches and players blatantly cheat.

  39. HarrisonHits says: Oct 8, 2009 2:15 PM

    mattitude,
    So what, Brady was supposed to stay there and let Suggs destroy both his knees just so you can feel like it was a good flag ? It was an intentional low hit that clearly deserved the flag.
    leatherneck,
    Totally agree with you, great post. mattitude is a fine example of what you were talking about.

  40. Ocelot138 says: Oct 8, 2009 2:41 PM

    A well-played football game is not one where the referee isn’t making a motion to throw the flag UNTIL Tom Brady turns to him and makes the flag throwing motion.
    A well-played football game does NOT rely on two ticky-tack calls to keep one team in the game, no matter how many SuperBowls they won or how recognizable the QB is.
    A well-played football SEASON doesn’t give an advantage to one team over another.
    But this is now the NewEngland Football League, so I guess we’ve gotta get used to it.

  41. Kevin from Philly says: Oct 8, 2009 2:55 PM

    McNabb was not a “runner” when he was hit. He was laying on the ground…in the end zone. Play over, whistle blown. Two seconds later he’s speared. The fact that the cheap shot artist didn’t get fined is a friggin’ joke.

  42. Harm City Homer says: Oct 8, 2009 3:10 PM

    Just fine players for “illegal contact” with the QB and do not affect the down and distance, as the tap to the helmet or thigh, not below the knee non contact area, does not impact the game in any way shape or form other than the free 15 yards and 1st down.
    It is not like pass interference or even a late hit personal foul. It is a legal hit on the QB, but maybe in an illegal part of his body. It is convoluted and inconsistant at best.
    Just review the tape and pass out the fines. Stop affecting the outcome of games with ticky tack bullshit calls.

  43. jamaltimore says: Oct 8, 2009 3:19 PM

    leatherneck:
    What rule should we put in place so Jared Gaither wouldn’t get carted off the field? Football is a violent game and everyone who plays it knows it. There are hands to the face that happen and people falling to the ground akwardly on every play yet when it happens around a quarterback a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down is called. That’s what people are complaining about especially when those penalties consisently seem to go against the most physical defense in the past decade. See last year’s titan’s game when suggs hit collins on the SHOULDER PAD and was called for penalty on 4th down play that should have ended game.
    Do I think there’s a bias there for some marquee players YES, does it seem to be a bias against physical players and teams YES! Does that affect the integrity of the game YES. If you dont’ like the fact that it appears to be the Ravens whining about it, why don’t you ask Rodney Harrison about it. He’s a big hitter who repeatedly drew penalties and fines that others would not.
    I do not want to see Mr Bunchen or any other player hurt, we all want to see the best players but the hitting out of bounds and qb protection rules impact too many games and are VERY subjective calls.

  44. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 8, 2009 3:38 PM

    # FloriosHairHat says: October 8, 2009 1:26 PM
    Here’s your chance Denver, the refs are gonna back off this week, everybody’s watching and they know it.
    Go for the knees.
    ***
    My God, I’d love to meet the people who raised you. I’d like ask them if they are proud of the monster they created.

  45. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 8, 2009 4:17 PM

    First off I am not a raiders fan. But it is plain to see that roughing the passer ruling changes from week to week. I dont care whose the QB for the raiders, but Russell should have gotten the same call that Brady got. It doesnt matter about officiating crews or who is the better QB, it should be about calling it down the middle and trying to make the right calls.

  46. mattitude says: Oct 8, 2009 5:33 PM

    HarrisonHits says:
    October 8, 2009 2:15 PM
    mattitude,
    So what, Brady was supposed to stay there and let Suggs destroy both his knees just so you can feel like it was a good flag ? It was an intentional low hit that clearly deserved the flag.
    leatherneck,
    Totally agree with you, great post. mattitude is a fine example of what you were talking about.
    ———————————————-
    Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to see anyone get hurt, but I also don’t want to see certain quarterbacks get preferential treatment. You think the flag was justified because your mind reading powers allowed you to interpret Suggs’ falling down motion as intentional and ill-willed. At least you QB wasn’t injured. Apparently it’s ok for a defensive tackle to perform a running frog splash on McNabb without generating a flag. That’s fine, though. Some QB’s are tough and don’t complain about non-calls, while others need to beg for every flag they can get.

  47. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 8, 2009 6:06 PM

    “# TheBigOldDog says: October 8, 2009 3:38 PM
    I’d like ask them if they are proud of the monster they created.”
    FU…
    Even my 94 year old grandmother calls Tom Brady a pussy.

  48. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 8, 2009 7:28 PM

    FloriosHairHat says:
    FU…
    Even my 94 year old grandmother calls Tom Brady a pussy.
    ****
    Classy. The apple obviously does not fall far from the tree I see. The good news is people like you usually wind up getting exactly what they deserve sooner or later.
    As for that Brady guy being a pussy:
    In the [2004 Season] AFC playoffs, Brady led the Patriots to victories over the Indianapolis Colts and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Brady played his best game of the year in Pittsburgh despite requiring intravenous treatment the previous night when he ran a temperature of 103 degrees. Against the NFL’s best defensive team, Brady recorded a quarterback passer rating of 130.5, his highest of the season.[11] On February 6, 2005, the Brady-led Patriots defeated the Philadelphia Eagles to win Super Bowl XXXIX. Brady threw for 236 yards and two touchdowns, most of which went to Deion Branch, while capturing the Patriots’ third championship in four years.

  49. TheWizard says: Oct 8, 2009 8:27 PM

    The old days of letting defenseless quarterbacks get pummeled by defenders are over, people.
    Nobody wants to watch 3rd string QB’s on Sunday, except most of you, apparently.

  50. raideralex99 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:39 AM

    LOL … for those of you keeping score.
    Raiders TD … reviewed no TD
    Panthers TD … reviewed TD
    Texans TD … reviewed TD
    Jaguars no TD … reviewed TD
    They all caught the ball in the endzone and then dropped it … yet they all counted for a TD except the Raiders … why does that not surprise me.

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