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Kiwanuka says he wouldn't play for Limbaugh-owned team

The opinions continue to roll in regarding the possibility that radio host Rush Limbaugh will soon own the St. Louis Rams.

Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka says that he’d never play for a Limbaugh-owned team.

“All I know is from the last comment I heard, he said in [President] Obama’s America,
white kids are getting beat up on the bus while black kids are chanting
‘right on,’” Kiwanuka said, per the New York Daily News.  “I mean, I don’t want
anything to do with a team that he has any part of.  He can do whatever
he wants, it is a free country.  But if it goes through, I can tell you
where I am not going to play.

“I am not going to draw a conclusion from a person off of one comment,
but when it is time after time after time and there’s a consistent
pattern of disrespect and just a complete misunderstanding of an entire
culture that I am a part of, I can’t respect him as a man,” Kiwanuka added.

Earlier this week, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb — the player at the center of the controversy that ended Limbaugh’s on-air role at ESPN after roughly a month — made his own views known.

“If he’s rewarded to buy them, congratulations to him,” McNabb said, per the Daily News.  “But I won’t be in St. Louis
anytime soon.”

Jets linebacker Bart Scott echoed the sentiment.  “I know I wouldn’t want to play for him.  He’s a jerk. . . .  What
he said [about McNabb] was inappropriate and insensitive, totally
off-base.  He could offer me whatever he wanted, I wouldn’t play for
him. . . .  I wouldn’t play for Rush Limbaugh.  My principles are greater
and I can’t be bought.”

In our view, Limbaugh is smart enough to know that his interest in buying the Rams would create this kind of reaction.  The only remaining questions, in our view, are whether he’ll paint himself as a victim of bias and intolerance if his bid is withdrawn or rejected — and whether he’ll become a modern-day version of George Preston Marshall in reverse if Limbaugh lands the team.

The late Redskins owner had no black players because he resisted employing them; Limbaugh would potentially have no black players because they would refuse to work for him.

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  1. FlorioObjection says: Oct 9, 2009 1:37 PM

    “All I know is from the last comment I heard, he said in [President] Obama’s America, white kids are getting beat up on the bus while black kids are chanting ‘right on,’” Kiwanuka said
    THIS HAPPENED…Why is it a problem for Rush to speak his mind about what happened? Kiwanuka wouldnt tackle Vince Young…conspiracy!

  2. dietrich43 says: Oct 9, 2009 1:38 PM

    As a white person, I wouldn’t want to work for Limbaugh.

  3. JimmySmith says: Oct 9, 2009 1:38 PM

    Wait, hold the presses, Bart Scott has principles. We are not quite sure what they as of now but we do know that they are in place and wouldn’t allow him to play for Rush.
    STFU, your stupid political grandstanding is only exceeded by your misplaced sentiments.

  4. BENITO says: Oct 9, 2009 1:39 PM

    Yea right, im too principled to get paid lots of his money! get real!

  5. chapnasty says: Oct 9, 2009 1:39 PM

    WOW. Florio, you are edging on insanity my friend. That last line about black players playing for him is insanse. I’d probably punch you in the face if I saw you.
    Whats funny is that Rush knows enough about football to know that McNabb sucks and Kiwanuka benefits from having one of the best DE in the game and wouldnt be that good on his own. Other than that they are oviously being fed a bunch of lines because they are ignorant to anything Rush has ever said. In fact the quote that Kiwanuka is referring to was a reference to a school bus beating where a white kid was beaten by several black kids. See what happens when you kow what you are talking about?
    And these guys are fools, they would play for anyone if the money was right.

  6. Vox's Mommy says: Oct 9, 2009 1:40 PM

    I think we all saw this coming a while away. I’m white and wouldn’t want to play for that jerk-off.

  7. birdmancometh says: Oct 9, 2009 1:40 PM

    Good, the more stars that take this stance, the better. Keep that jackass out of the league. If only the Rams had a star player…

  8. PITTSUCKS says: Oct 9, 2009 1:41 PM

    Oh but if a white player said he wouldn’t play for a black owner, heads would be rolling.

  9. ☻☼CBS, FOX, ESPN, NFLN nbc says: Oct 9, 2009 1:41 PM

    I LOVE IT!!!

  10. Babie Hoodie says: Oct 9, 2009 1:42 PM

    Kiwanuka should just Shuthafukupa because no one really cares what he has to say about anything.
    Plus, he is a New York Giant, so what difference does it make to him?
    Kiwanuka means FAT LOSER in some language I’m sure.

  11. bigtroutak says: Oct 9, 2009 1:42 PM

    Poor baby, want to suck on my thumb? Wow thank God the thought police are out there, I mean how dare someone have an opinion that didn’t come from Obama or MSNBC?
    I don’t even like Limbaugh and I find this disgusting

  12. DemocratsAreStupid says: Oct 9, 2009 1:43 PM

    I don’t blame these players for not wanting to play for Rush. He’s an idiot that does nothing but pander and create hype.

  13. LebronJeremy says: Oct 9, 2009 1:43 PM

    Hey, I think Rush is a pontificating, bombastic a-hole, who has been wrong about nearly ever assumption he has made in his entire life. I also think he has a right to buy into the ownership of the Rams; it’s a free country, no?
    But on the same coin, I entirely respect the players’ opposition to playing for a man who is so utterly closed off from the rest of the world that his stereotype of black people is off by 35 years.
    When was the last time you heard anyone say “right on” when they weren’t being facetious?

  14. Shadenfreuder says: Oct 9, 2009 1:44 PM

    So Rush Limbaugh is rich enough to buy an NFL team? I guess spewing vile and hatred pays. At least the Rams would replace the Patriots as the most hated team in the league. Speaking of the Patriots. This would be interesting to see just how much the Krafts and other Jewish owners in the league value money over morals. As a Pats season ticket holder I will predict that Kraft would vote to allow Hitler to own a franchise if he thought he could make more money from it.

  15. natentn says: Oct 9, 2009 1:45 PM

    Great job at NBC dutifully reporting this, these guys ought to be more professional about it. Limbaugh has the most popular radio show in America, these guys should listen to the show before they make comments about him. Instead of just taking it from ESPN and others in the media who don’t like him.
    By the way, can we talk football on this site. I’m tired of politics seeping into sports and all other areas of life in this country. Some of us don’t like Republicans or Democrats so can we leave them out.

  16. frank12341 says: Oct 9, 2009 1:45 PM

    nothing what he said was racist. his comments about mcnabb were/are valid.
    the nfl needs to continue to push black qb’s as legit, instead of the usual ‘athletes’ like mike vick, who is nothing more than a fast black guy who occasionaly throws the ball…
    have there been good black qb’s? sure, but most are the run first, throw if i can remember the playbook types…
    rush was right on and the nfl didnt like it…and now, as usual, the blacks cry racism….

  17. HarrisonHits says: Oct 9, 2009 1:46 PM

    “The only remaining questions, in our view, are whether he’ll paint himself as a victim of bias and intolerance if his bid is withdrawn or rejected”
    Of course he will. He will use that as an example of reverse discrimination as opposed to a reflection of his own bigotry.
    He will use that during the coming elections as he rants, raves and lies his ass off making up any issue or story he can to hurt the democrats.
    Limbaugh’s message in one thing and one thing only, that of hate. He is a sick twisted person. He is a fine example of a double standard, a drug addict that was let off because of his wealth and status, who wants to see poor and African American drug users tossed in jail and the key to their cells lost permanently. He is scum.

  18. Flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Oct 9, 2009 1:47 PM

    What if Jesse Jackson and Farrakan were buying the team? Every thing they say is ok isn’t it.

  19. Coutre1 says: Oct 9, 2009 1:47 PM

    Yikes. All these sell-out hypocritical players.
    Did Kiwanuka see the video? Rush was dead on.

  20. VoxVerítas says: Oct 9, 2009 1:48 PM

    In related news, faced with mounting criticism from NFL fans, Rush Limbaugh this morning announced his intention to instead buy the Ku Klux Klan.

  21. bearsrule says: Oct 9, 2009 1:49 PM

    “In our view, Limbaugh is smart enough to know that his interest in buying the Rams would create this kind of reaction. The only remaining questions, in our view, are whether he’ll paint himself as a victim of bias and intolerance if his bid is withdrawn or rejected”…Bingo. This whole thing is a political game, so he can look like a victim. You know, because black people are prejudiced against him. Poor thing.

  22. Levito says: Oct 9, 2009 1:50 PM

    Kiwi, you better not be going anywhere! Stay with the Giants!

  23. getagrip says: Oct 9, 2009 1:50 PM

    This just highlights the tragic fact that our athletes are forced to work for corporations in which the man at the top of the corporate ladder may actually be someone they don’t like or agree with.
    What an unbelievable shame that is.
    Surely, the entire global workforce will rally around these poor, oppressed victims of corporate tyranny.

  24. denverpilot says: Oct 9, 2009 1:51 PM

    THis is so funny. Bart Scott would play for Rush if he paid him the most. This entire conversation is useless. Florio – why?
    By the way – Tebow just won the Heisman a quarter of the way thru the season because he talked about wanting it so much.

  25. Staff Sergeant Bandazewski says: Oct 9, 2009 1:51 PM

    I wouldn’t work for him either because he’s a typical, chicken hawk coward who is for all things once he exceeds the age to bear the burden of responsibility for them.

  26. Mojosan says: Oct 9, 2009 1:52 PM

    Few owners are more liberal than Jeff Laurie in Philly. Are players with conservative viewpoints boycotting the Eagles?
    Or, are they behaving like adults and realizing that people have different points of view.

  27. 2brauneyz says: Oct 9, 2009 1:52 PM

    This is the best new topic in a while. Bravo Mike!

  28. Paul_R. says: Oct 9, 2009 1:53 PM

    Florio, I posted this article by Allen Barra yesterday:
    http://www.slate.com/id/2089193/
    Rush Limbaugh Was Right
    Donovan McNabb isn’t a great quarterback, and the media do overrate him because he is black.
    By Allen BarraPosted Thursday, Oct. 2, 2003, at 6:33 PM ET
    In his notorious ESPN comments last Sunday night, Rush Limbaugh said he never thought the Philadelphia Eagles’ Donovan McNabb was “that good of a quarterback.”
    If Limbaugh were a more astute analyst, he would have been even harsher and said, “Donovan McNabb is barely a mediocre quarterback.” But other than that, Limbaugh pretty much spoke the truth. Limbaugh lost his job for saying in public what many football fans and analysts have been saying privately for the past couple of seasons.
    Let’s review: McNabb, he said, is “overrated … what we have here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback can do well—black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well.”
    “There’s a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”
    Let’s take the football stuff first. For the past four seasons, the Philadelphia Eagles have had one of the best defenses in the National Football League and have failed to make it to the Super Bowl primarily because of an ineffective offense—an offense run by Donovan McNabb. McNabb was a great college quarterback, in my estimation one of the best of the ’90s while at Syracuse. (For the record, I helped persuade ESPN Magazine, then called ESPN Total Sports, to put him on the cover of the 1998 college-football preview issue.) He is one of the most talented athletes in the NFL, but that talent has not translated into greatness as a pro quarterback.
    McNabb has started for the Eagles since the 2000 season. In that time, the Eagles offense has never ranked higher than 10th in the league in yards gained. In fact, their 10th-place rank in 2002 was easily their best; in their two previous seasons, they were 17th in a 32-team league. They rank 31st so far in 2003.
    In contrast, the Eagles defense in those four seasons has never ranked lower than 10th in yards allowed. In 2001, they were seventh; in 2002 they were fourth; this year they’re fifth. It shouldn’t take a football Einstein to see that the Eagles’ strength over the past few seasons has been on defense, and Limbaugh is no football Einstein, which is probably why he spotted it.
    The news that the Eagles defense has “carried” them over this period should be neither surprising nor controversial to anyone with access to simple NFL statistics—or for that matter, with access to a television. Yet, McNabb has received an overwhelming share of media attention and thus the credit. Now why is this?
    Let’s look at a quarterback with similar numbers who also plays for a team with a great defense. I don’t know anyone who would call Brad Johnson one of the best quarterbacks in pro football—which is how McNabb is often referred to. In fact, I don’t know anyone who would call Brad Johnson, on the evidence of his 10-year NFL career, much more than mediocre. Yet, Johnson’s NFL career passer rating, as of last Sunday, is 7.3 points higher than McNabb’s (84.8 to 77.5), he has completed his passes at a higher rate (61.8 percent to 56.4 percent), and has averaged significantly more yards per pass (6.84 to 5.91). McNabb excels in just one area, running, where he has gained 2,040 yards and scored 14 touchdowns to Johnson’s 467 and seven. But McNabb has also been sacked more frequently than Johnson—more than once, on average, per game, which negates much of the rushing advantage.
    In other words, in just about every way, Brad Johnson has been a more effective quarterback than McNabb and over a longer period.
    And even if you say the stats don’t matter and that a quarterback’s job is to win games, Johnson comes out ahead. Johnson has something McNabb doesn’t, a Super Bowl ring, which he went on to win after his Bucs trounced McNabb’s Eagles in last year’s NFC championship game by a score of 27-10. The Bucs and Eagles were regarded by everyone as having the two best defenses in the NFL last year. When they played in the championship game, the difference was that the Bucs defense completely bottled up McNabb while the Eagles defense couldn’t stop Johnson.
    In terms of performance, many NFL quarterbacks should be ranked ahead of McNabb. But McNabb has represented something special to all of us since he started his first game in the NFL, and we all know what that is.
    Limbaugh is being excoriated for making race an issue in the NFL. This is hypocrisy. I don’t know of a football writer who didn’t regard the dearth of black NFL quarterbacks as one of the most important issues in the late ’80s and early ’90s. (The topic really caught fire after 1988, when Doug Williams of the Washington Redskins became the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl.)
    So far, no black quarterback has been able to dominate a league in which the majority of the players are black. To pretend that many of us didn’t want McNabb to be the best quarterback in the NFL because he’s black is absurd. To say that we shouldn’t root for a quarterback to win because he’s black is every bit as nonsensical as to say that we shouldn’t have rooted for Jackie Robinson to succeed because he was black. (Please, I don’t need to be reminded that McNabb’s situation is not so difficult or important as Robinson’s—I’m talking about a principle.)
    Consequently, it is equally absurd to say that the sports media haven’t overrated Donovan McNabb because he’s black. I’m sorry to have to say it; he is the quarterback for a team I root for. Instead of calling him overrated, I wish I could be admiring his Super Bowl rings. But the truth is that I and a great many other sportswriters have chosen for the past few years to see McNabb as a better player than he has been because we want him to be.
    Rush Limbaugh didn’t say Donovan McNabb was a bad quarterback because he is black. He said that the media have overrated McNabb because he is black, and Limbaugh is right. He didn’t say anything that he shouldn’t have said, and in fact he said things that other commentators should have been saying for some time now. I should have said them myself. I mean, if they didn’t hire Rush Limbaugh to say things like this, what did they hire him for? To talk about the prevent defense?
    ________________________________
    So, Florio, what is YOUR opinion of Barra’s statements? Is he equally outrageous as Limbaugh? Is he a “racist” as people made Limbaugh out to be based on his statements?
    Since you like to stir the pot a bit, Florio, and then stand back in the shadows of safety, why don’t you express your opinion of Barra’ article? I’ll be willing to bet you won’t touch it.

  29. Flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Oct 9, 2009 1:53 PM

    Liberal males are pretty much all girly-men, I’m amazed how many of them are football fans and come to this site.

  30. dasboat says: Oct 9, 2009 1:53 PM

    I would bet my next paycheck that nearly everyone who has a negative comment to make about Limbaugh has never even listened to him. His politics are certainly conservative but I have never heard a racist comment come from him. He’d be happy if everyone – white, black, green or purple – were wealthy and successful.

  31. BearNDesert says: Oct 9, 2009 1:54 PM

    Ugh, shut-up and play football. I love how these players suddenly have “principles”. Limbaugh may be a blow-hard and a jerk, but that’s practically a requirement for NFL owners (Al Davis, Jerry Jones, etc.).
    Offer them enough money and they’ll forget their principles.

  32. johnnydarko says: Oct 9, 2009 1:55 PM

    What a few of you seem to be forgetting is that he also called for segregated buses as well as the fact that it was a black student that broke the fight up. That’s just flat out racist. How many of you supporting him are middle aged, middle class, white men. My guess is all of you.

  33. bri81068 says: Oct 9, 2009 1:55 PM

    Hey Florio, have you been hanging with Olbermann at the new digs? I am certainly not a Limbaugh fan, but I just don’t see the big deal if he were to buy the Rams.

  34. rockotica says: Oct 9, 2009 1:55 PM

    clarence thomas and michael steele disagree with mathias.

  35. Roboto says: Oct 9, 2009 1:56 PM

    Boss Limbaugh is already in trouble! Ha!
    The fat, racist, pillhead brought it on himself.

  36. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 1:58 PM

    @FlorioObjection
    He said in Obama’s America. The event occurred; however, Limbaugh was race baiting by the Obama comment. What do you believe Obama condones black kids beating up white kids?

  37. dtowner says: Oct 9, 2009 1:58 PM

    When an INCIDENT ACTUALLY HAPPENS and the news media doesn’t mention it, someone has too. The quote Kiwanuka is talking about was about an incident that ACTUALLY HAPPENED. Someone should tell him that because he looks like an absolute Fool saying what he is. And I’m a African American and I would work for Rush. WHAT? you can’t be African American and a Concervative? I LOVE this Country, but absolutely hate what the Government is doing to it. Go Rams!

  38. JerseyJints says: Oct 9, 2009 1:58 PM

    yawn.

  39. mad555 says: Oct 9, 2009 1:59 PM

    “In our view, Limbaugh is smart enough to know that his interest in buying the Rams would create this kind of reaction.”
    Is that so, Florio? Well I wonder where you opinion is on this issue? You seem to put your slapdick opinion on every other hot button topic. Why have you been so hesitant to inject your honest opinion on how you feel about what Limpdicbaugh has said about African American people. I mean, I sure you know what he has said, because you probably listen to, and agree with, what that Neo-Nazi, racist has to say. You do live in one of the most racist parts of the country, but I regress, how bout you let us know where you stand, you lovable slapdick

  40. Hauschild says: Oct 9, 2009 2:00 PM

    This really goes to prove how intentionally misinformed half of Americans are.
    Rush Limbaugh is one of a select few of Americans responsible for fending off America being overrun by communist thugs. He sees was America once was, and he can see from failings in other countries what he doesn’t want America to become. Is it really a waste of time because the damage is already done? Maybe so – but you’ve gotta admire his steadfast courage. Nobody tells him what to think or what not to say. That’s leadership, my friends.

  41. mnmaverick says: Oct 9, 2009 2:00 PM

    I gicve Rush THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
    He’s accomplished more than Bareass Obama.

  42. electricrelish says: Oct 9, 2009 2:00 PM

    If Rush Limbaugh becomes an NFL owner, the league may have to start drug testing all of its owners.

  43. Jag4Life says: Oct 9, 2009 2:01 PM

    Regardless of what most of you think, money doesn’t rule all. Just because NFL athletes make millions, I’m pretty sure they still have self respect. There’s no black man with any self respect and in touch with history would sell thier soul to play for this RACIST.
    He’s an radio entertainer who live’s in a WHITE america that doesn’t exist. Too many ethnics and backgrounds for the america he wants. He’s a dinosuar and any who follows him are extinct. Get on board with the majority of the country or get left behind. God bless football season.

  44. tj.52 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:01 PM

    I will never buy a Kiwanuka, Scott or McNabb jersey or support any of their sponsors.
    (hand to ear): Who cares?
    Exactly.
    I’m getting tired of listening to bitchy little millionaires complain. STFU and play football.

  45. downsouth49er says: Oct 9, 2009 2:02 PM

    Exactly what I said when the first Rush article was posted on PFT. No black player would want to play for that fat dopped-up jerkoff. He should just overdose already and I’ll piss on his grave.

  46. Krow says: Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM

    I suppose if it were Rush or Al Davis then he might reconsider.

  47. WetHog says: Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM

    It sounds like Kiwanuka and his friends are “desirous” to speak out of their ass on something it would appear they know nothing about. Around the same time Rush made his comments about McNabb, “The Racist” Pam Oliver made a racial comment in a pre-game piece on the then defensive line of the Carolina Panthers. She refered to the lone white lineman on the D-line as the “token white guy”. Where was the outrage? Why aren’t white NFL players threatening to boycott games “The Racist” Pam Oliver is assigned to? Because its not a big deal thats why, and what Rush said about McNabb wasn’t a big deal either.
    Get over it.

  48. Ron In Charlotte says: Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM

    That’s ok. Any black man that think Obama cares about him and cannot see the destruction that libs have wrought on the black community don’t even deserve a voice.
    Not to mention the wealthy blacks that have a target on their back painted by a prez and Congress that look for every way possible to take their money don’t even care that Rush fights for people to keep their earned money.
    The black mentality keeps the black man down. And the politicians thrive on that opportunity.

  49. Roboto says: Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM

    chapnasty, go stick you head back up Limbaugh’s @$$. You sack of pus.

  50. KPM873 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM

    They are entitled to their opinion I have no problem with that. Would they have a problem playing with Leonard Little? He killed a mother while driving drunk only to get caught driving drunk again later on. Im not a Limbaugh fan but I’d say what he has said is a heck of a lot less offensive than what Leonard Little did.

  51. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM

    @chapnasty/killapup
    What is your point about the school bus? That is exactly what Rush said. I heard it. It was a very divisive statement. It is ok for what he does on the radio. He is an entertainer trying to get ratings and make more money. However, as a leader of a team that will be comprised of Black athletes. That kind of talk will not work. Imagine if the head of IBM made statements like Rush.

  52. bigtroutak says: Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM

    Maybe the league should investigate these players for collusion?

  53. bearsrule says: Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM

    This whole thing is a political game. Now, he can be a victim, because black people are prejudiced against him. It’s not Rush’s fault that black folks don’t like him. It’s their fault.

  54. Pete427 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM

    I’ve reviewed your application, Mr. Limbaugh. Just because you would be a ‘minority owner’, it doesn’t mean that you will technically ‘own minorities’. I just wanted to clear that up.

  55. The Tooth says: Oct 9, 2009 2:04 PM

    LOL!! Love this chit. How are any of you getting bent out of shape on this? Rush is an ass (IMO) and extremely polarizing. There’s going to be plenty of guys that wouldn’t want to play for him. Black, white, brown, red, yellow, green, polka dot, periwinkle, and I’m sure just about any color that resides in your kid’s Crayola box.
    And this SUPRISES you?!? This warrants defensiveness from some? LOL. Same type of fools that can’t understand why there wives have been frosty ever since they got caught giving a “hands-on” explanation of coitus to the baby sitter.
    Really people, what other obvious realities shock you to your core? I mean Halloweens coming up. Do you guys hide in your bedrooms, sweating and shaking with the Bible clutched in your white knuckled hands. Wondering how God could allow the devil to unleash his minions upon your good Earth. Ghouls and goblins and witches and vampires, and for some reason super heros. LOL. Give me a fuggin break.
    Morons.

  56. Phokus says: Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM

    Funny thing is, nobody’s pointed out the most offensive thing rush has said recently:
    “We need segregated buses”.
    Rush claims he was being sarcastic, but if you heard it live, it was pretty obvious he meant it.

  57. nyJag says: Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM

    Florio, I can’t even begin to relate my total disgust at this post. You sir, are now part of the problem; part of the divide in our country. You are fueling the ignorance and hate in our popular culture.
    I’m not even sure if I can continue reading your site.
    I can’t believe how wreckless you are. Maybe its because you are from West Virginia and you don’t know anything about what it’s like to be from a place like Jacksonville, Florida which continues to struggle with a cultural segregation from both blacks and whites. I went to a high school still divided and this was in the early 90′s.
    Maybe it’s because you’re not from New York City, my home now and for the last 10 years where racial lines were drawn by Robert Moses over 40 years ago to insure property values which later turned into walls that kept races apart and fueled mistrust and resentment.
    You are now part of the divide. Rush, right or wrong is no different from you.
    I expect people to sound off on a blog listing. I even expect some of them to be a part of the problem. But you have skewed the argument. You have created a forum for hate.
    You should be ashamed.
    You are an attorney. Or maybe, in the end that is the problem.

  58. Real Football Fan says: Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM

    What’s sad is that there are people defending Limbaugh’ in this matter. Whatever your politics, you’re being short sighted if you don’t recognize the disdain for anyone not of his demographic, which is the key because it’s all for his advertisers, that his brand represents. That there are people who don’t understand the land mine an ownership bid that he is involved with would cause, you’re quite frankly idiots and need to stop making everything about politics 24/7.
    I’ve never thought he holds half the beliefs he drills on the air since he’s been reported to be gay and a compassionate man behind closed doors, but he’s a polarizing public figure in the realm that he’s known for, not a good look for the buttoned down NFL.

  59. pray4thebills says: Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM

    No worries- Rush won’t want the team anymore once he realizes that nowadays he has to pay black people to work for him.
    So a few black kids probably did beat up a white kid. The problem with this is that Rush guides his stupid listeners to actually believe that Obama being President caused this to happen, and most likely that Obama would encourange such behavior. THATS why he’s a bad person. Not because he lies, but because he spins trivial stories such as this as being caused by society empowering minorities, which is completely false.

  60. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM

    I dont like getting into racial or political banter on a sports site, but the double standard is getting out of control.
    What Limbaugh said (and I agree he is controversial) about black students beating up a white student, as TRUE! It happened. Why are we not allowed to talk about it….????? And by we, I mean everybody….

  61. Of A Revolution says: Oct 9, 2009 2:08 PM

    Chapnasty,
    1. Mcnabb sucks? You’ve got to be kidding me. He’s one of the best quarterbacks in the game.
    2. Kiwanuka did pretty well last year with Osi out for the year.
    3. They are being fed these lines? What team’s PR staff would even bother to tell these guys to comment on the situation?
    Altho I do understand where Rush was coming from when he said that, if you are going to make an argument at least make yourself sound halfway intelligent.

  62. cunn9305 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:08 PM

    Believe me if he had no other options he would play… unless he could make the same money working at Home Depot. When push comes to shove the only color that matters to those guys is green.

  63. kappa08 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:08 PM

    ..not to mention he’s a narcissistic coward that doesn’t practice what he preaches.
    Drug attic
    Draft dodger and just flat out obese sycophant that doesn’t deserve any level of respect. THIS is the same cat that cheered when Chicago lost the Olympics…real patriotic ….
    I echo the very articulate statement of Kiwanuka made…”it’s a free country..he can do what he wants…” But at the end of the day if you’re willing to reward THAT type of person then you get the brand you deserve..pppeeewwww

  64. DcNinerFan says: Oct 9, 2009 2:09 PM

    Vox’s Mommy -
    It’d be no different than if the racists Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Rev. Wright bought the team. No white person would want to play for them. Oh, wait, no one cares when a black person is racist, because they can’t possibly be so.
    I think he’d be a great owner, because he is a businessman and believes in Capitalism. His personal political views aside, he’s still a good businessman.

  65. mobriend says: Oct 9, 2009 2:09 PM

    So I guess Florio is saying that all Black football players think the same way — that’s an idiotic comment!

  66. meezle says: Oct 9, 2009 2:10 PM

    Chapnasty mcnabb sucks?
    Wikipedia what he’s done in his career and see if you still feel that way. If you do, then you don’t know football.
    Rush is an idiot, no question there, but some of the other owners could very well be just as opinionated as rush.
    If I was on his team I would just talk to him and tell him how I felt and leave it at that.
    Btw I am black, if that matters, I figured everyone else was doing it so would I.

  67. homercles82 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:10 PM

    Florio you are a jerk. That last line is ignorant.

  68. Stuart Scotts left eye says: Oct 9, 2009 2:11 PM

    I hate people who take Rush as the bible. Don’t people realize he’s a COMEDIAN on the radio? He’s a personality, not a politcal correspondant. If he was actually stating the news he would be boring and get no ratings so he has to piss people off. The NFL should not allow him to run a franchise, nor should they allow David Duke to own a franchse. It’s just a no brainer.

  69. east96street says: Oct 9, 2009 2:11 PM

    Even if you had no intention of ever playing for him, why needlessly remove a team from bidding on your services? Let’s say NY offers Kiwanuka one million a year (to pick a round number). The Rams offer 2 million. Kiwi has his agent go back to NY and say the Rams are offering 2, he is prepared to take it unless you will make a more attractive offer. If NY comes back with 1.5 mill, Kiwi got extra bucks and stayed where he was happy. By eliminating the Rams, he is hurting himself by reducing the number of teams bidding on his services. Use Rush to get more money and stay where you are. Do none of the players appreciate the irony of using a guy they feel is racist to make their paychecks bigger while leaving his team in the hole? What better payback is there?

  70. mike says: Oct 9, 2009 2:11 PM

    God, I just wish Rush could buy the Eagles.
    We now live in a era where one cannot make a critical comment about a black person without being called a racist. We have reverse racism now. It goes against everything so-called black leaders preach.
    How many of you are aware that slavery still exist in Africa? And it’s mostly Muslim blacks who “own” Christian blacks.
    Funny thing though….if you want to see racism….live in Philly or Detroit or Chicago. (BTW…those are NORTHERN cities)

  71. joe d says: Oct 9, 2009 2:11 PM

    i would,you know the franchise would be successful if he owned it, fuuny how black people can say whatever they want and it’s cool,hip or funny as soon as a white guy with a little bit of power say’s something it’s,RACIST..can’t we all just get along

  72. stanjam says: Oct 9, 2009 2:14 PM

    I think there are lots of players that would not play for him. You might find for the first time that a large group of players would refuse to play for a particular owner. This would hurt the NFL, but deservedly so. It is Rush’s right to buy into a team, but it is also the player’s right not to play for him. I know I wouldn’t if I could at all avoid it. Still, people will swallow some pretty bitter pills if it is their only option, but is that the type of team you want?
    Rush is far too radical, and he has made his racist views known time and time again.
    To the person who said “This has happened,” no kidding. It has happened before, and will happen again, whether it is whites or blacks doing the cheering. Rush took it to another level, saying that “This is Obama’s America, where the white kids get beaten while the black kids cheer.” He is saying that Obama is racist, and that he is creating a system where white people may be freely abused by black people. That is wrong, and racist, and untrue. He has done this time and time again, blaming blacks for a multitude of problems. This is the cry of the tyrant, to find some group that is different and blame them for the problems society is facing. Yes, just like Hitler did with the Jews, and the Gypsies, and any other number of peoples.
    I hope that is he does get ownership, that players make a united stand and say “I won’t play for him.” I hope it is a huge number too.

  73. mrmerrick says: Oct 9, 2009 2:15 PM

    rush is a fool.
    this backlash, justified or not, is very bad for business.
    hes should go take some pills and relax that fat head of his
    bababooey

  74. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:16 PM

    If he does end up as one of the owners it would be bad for business. More so for the constant protest that are sure to follow by people who disagree with his views. St, Louis is bad right now and the last thing they need is another reason for fans, media, etc to ridicule them. If St. Louis was in a more stable position as a franchise this still wouldnt work. I personally feel that the thoughts that Kiwanuka projected might go along with most of the league players. Who would want to play for someone who says or does whacked out things on a regular bases. NO ONE IS JUMPING UP AND DOWN TO PLAY FOR THE RAIDERS RIGHT NOW. WHY CAUSE OF UNSTABLE OWNERSHIP.

  75. kappa08 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:20 PM

    joe d…FAIL. Stick to what you know man. Rush is a FLAT OUT racist period.
    You don’t get to relate this to anything other than what it is…it’s his game, his brand and he is damn proud of it…and if you think THAT’s comedy my guess is that you’re white and probably found yourself at a rally with a teabag on your head….NOT a particularly intellectual group of *ahem* Americans that have become the blight of our nation….

  76. ZN0rseman says: Oct 9, 2009 2:20 PM

    Ummm… maybe Rush said that because…
    IT HAPPENED.
    So, I wonder if these guys who are mad about him commenting on it are going to spend an equal amount of press time decrying the actions of those criminals who committed the hate crime and got away with it… simply because they committed the hate crime against white children?
    Probably not.
    The overwhelming majority of racially motivated crime is committed AGAINST white people, NOT by them.
    Perhaps I would be less annoyed at the ignorance of these athletes if that fact were better publicized in the media, instead of the media focusing on these fools who are openly against anyone pointing that fact out, much more so than they are against such crimes in the first place.
    $0.02,
    –Z

  77. FlorioObjection says: Oct 9, 2009 2:21 PM

    @steeler4Life
    Is this not Obama’s America? Don’t pick and choose when you want this country to be claimed by Obama. You’re a loser, just like your offensive line. Go have a beer with the Professor who broke into his home, lol!

  78. Wonderlic---myballs says: Oct 9, 2009 2:21 PM

    George Preston Marshall was a racist POS but was very influential back then,even causing Halas and Rooney to refrain from having black players for some time. When Marshall finally gave in years later he tried to get Ernie Davis who told him to bite it,so he went to Cleveland. Could Rush becomes an owner and the black players snub him ala Ernie Davis…wouldn’t happen. Too much money on the table for everyone to care about principles. Be funny to see though..the Rush all white team… then they really could be called the Lambs.

  79. a sensible person says: Oct 9, 2009 2:22 PM

    To whoever thought I was tarded for saying this would happen:
    Looks like i’m smarter than you!!

  80. mycarsmells says: Oct 9, 2009 2:23 PM

    I listen to Rush sometimes and he is entertaining (a pompous asshole with racist leanings on-air, God only know what he really thinks of U.S. minorities, but entertaining nonetheless). I really don’t care either way if he lands the team. He is just an entertainer so I could care less. He represents a POWERFUL, but dying breed… guys that want to turn return to the 1950′s – an imaginary time when things were “the way they ought to be”. It is NOT going to happen, so get over it. No one is happy about everything…
    But I kind of hope he does get the team, so I can watch it unfold. It will be very entertaining – befitting of the man himself.

  81. Deb says: Oct 9, 2009 2:23 PM

    @FlorioObjection …
    Similar incidents have happened since I was in school. Black kids beating up white kids while everyone chanted “Right on.” WHITE kids beating up black kids while white kids chanted “Right on.” BUT when these incidents happened during the Bush administration, Mr. Limbaugh didn’t go on air and incite everyone about what was happening among the races in “Bush’s America.”
    The racism isn’t in reporting actual incidents. It’s in claiming they’re happening today because our President is dark-skinned (somehow the white part of his heritage is always omitted when these guys talk about how much he “hates” white people).
    I don’t know whether Rush Limbaugh is racist. But I have listened to him and he is definitely race-baiting. It’s probably just business to him. But some of his listeners are irrational extremists and they don’t know that.
    All the Rush fans have been asking for specific examples of his racist diatribes. Kiwanuka just gave you one.

  82. Hauschild says: Oct 9, 2009 2:25 PM

    StanJam,
    I, too, am hopeful. I am hopeful people like you will one day get yer heads outta yer rear ends – LOL!

  83. GiantSquid says: Oct 9, 2009 2:26 PM

    For anyone who argues “IT HAPPENED!!” please re-read the statement. The key sentiment is that he is saying this is “Obama’s America.”
    We don’t think Limbaugh is a nut because he is trying to discuss something that happened.
    We think he is a cancer on this country because he says ridiculous statements that scare people into thinking that Obama is out to get them. And much of this country is all too ready to eat his words right up.
    Should he own the Rams? who cares? He is free to do it and any player is within his rights to talk publicly about not playing for him. This is America people.
    But in any case, look at Limbaugh’s words before you blindly hitch your wagon on him.

  84. Zukny says: Oct 9, 2009 2:28 PM

    I find some of the comments on this post disgusting! particularly those, who said they aren’t going to use the site anymore because of the post.
    Florio had no racial sediment in this post! Secondly, Limbaugh is a person that gives the news, in his own way. Just like Cnn gives the news in “their” own way. All news sites are skewing the information JUST FOR YOU.
    We should be proud that Florio takes a very middle of the road approach!
    SECONDLY .. Where you are from, and what you have to deal with (segregation) (racial) Its probably MOSTLY IN YOUR HEAD! I went to a highschool that had Racial Wars, and I attend a College in the Ghetto of Philly.
    However, I’m Still alive and doing fine. Guess what, so are you.

  85. birdmancometh says: Oct 9, 2009 2:29 PM

    wow, never realized how many racists read this site. Clearly, there is a ways to go before the hatred stops.

  86. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 2:29 PM

    Perhaps the funniest thing about this is that people are getting mad at the players for having an opinion, whether it’s misinformed or not. Yea, you’re right, why should anyone care what a football player thinks? They’re not human beings, they just play football. Give me a break. They have their opinions, and their beliefs just like you do, and they make millions because they worked hard to get to the point where their skills are worth the amount that their being paid considering their field.
    Do I see a problem with Rush simply owning a team? No (although, from a day-to-day business standpoint it’s a little more complicated). Do I see a problem with players who give their opinion regarding the matter? No. Quite frankly, the players are more qualified to speak on the issue than anyone ranting on this board because THEY PLAY IN THE NFL, unlike us.

  87. blueridge624 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:33 PM

    The idiocy of this post is almost humorous. I believe Bart Scott was bought-by the Jets. He definitely has his price. They all do. But Florio is the worst. For several days now, in his lawyer’s weasel way, he has intentionalyy been trying to stoke resentment against Limbaugh’s potential part ownership of the Rams because of Limbaugh’s outspoken conservatism. Now Florio is attempting (weasel-like) to draw a comparison between Limbaugh and the Redskins’ former owner in order to taint him with the latter’s alleged racism. Nice try. I think there is bias and intolerance lurking here, and it isn’t Limbaugh’s. By the way, is Donovan McNabb the whiniest bitch, or what? Does that make me a racist?

  88. Bazooka Joe says: Oct 9, 2009 2:34 PM

    I wouldn’t want to work for that fat racist drug using crackerpig either. Screw him and all of his kind.

  89. marshall70 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:35 PM

    Kiwanuka is a hero. I hope other players come out and say the same thing. Rush has the right to own a team and players have the right not to play for a team Rush as ownership in. I’m sure there are plenty of white players that wouldn’t play for him. Congratulations to Obama for winning the Nobel and congratulations to Kiwanuka for being a hero.

  90. meezle says: Oct 9, 2009 2:36 PM

    I’m still hung up on the mcnabb hatred, I could care less about the rest
    Since 2000 the order of qbs goes as such
    1. Brady
    2. Manning I peyton
    3. Mcnabb
    Point blank, if u disagree you don’t know football.
    If mcnabb wins a superbowl than his place is cemented there. Whoever wrote that article about mcnabb is an idiot, how many probowl recievers, hell offensive skill players, has mcnabb had? 3 to 4 during 9 seasons – t.o., chad lewis, brian westbrook
    Td to int ratio? Winning percentage? What about those
    F Limbaugh, this isn’t politics, if that’s what you want go to cnn or foxnews

  91. Ocelot138 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:36 PM

    “How many of you are aware that slavery still exist in Africa? And it’s mostly Muslim blacks who “own” Christian blacks. ”
    This might be the most stupid thing ever to be said on PFT. And that’s incredible.
    You must mean “muslim blacks” like Barack Hussein Obama, right? Because he’s totally a Muslim!
    You listen to Rush Limbaugh. And you’re an idiot. Those two things tend to go together, it seems.

  92. Patches O'Houlahan says: Oct 9, 2009 2:37 PM

    B.S. anyone that would get millions of $$$$ waved in front of their face would play anywhere…….

  93. lebowski says: Oct 9, 2009 2:37 PM

    Kum ba ya…

  94. PimP JuicE MaN says: Oct 9, 2009 2:38 PM

    AMERICA, BUILT ON RACISM AND CONTIUING THE TRADITION.

  95. tj.52 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:38 PM

    My God, will you people get over yourselfs. Limbaugh is an entertainer, a personallity. Anyone who puts too much importance in his rants is giving him too much credit.
    Rush is to European Americans what Jessie Jackson is to African Americans. A big blowhard that attempts to endear a segment of the population to himself through emotional context and the old “I’m on your side, brother” scare tactics.
    Though it is interesting that if an African American supports any conservative cause he is labeled an “Uncle Tom” or a sellout. Perhaps we should attach a similar moniker to those of European descent who appear to choose common sense over blind loyalty. How about “Uncle Ned”? Lets try it out:
    “You’re white and you disagree with Rush Limbaugh? What are you, some kind of Uncle Ned or something?”
    Sounds good. Call Websters.

  96. a sensible person says: Oct 9, 2009 2:41 PM

    csaber2007, i can’t seem to find your response.

  97. a sensible person says: Oct 9, 2009 2:42 PM

    csaber2007, i can’t seem to find your response.

  98. old says: Oct 9, 2009 2:42 PM

    I think the free market should determine the outcome. Say Limbaugh buys the team, then good for him. Say nobody wants to play for a team owned by Limbaugh, then fine. Good luck to Limbaugh, then. The comical thing will be how much the team will will have to overpay players to get them to play for a team owned by Limbaugh. Congratulations Rams, I don’t have anything against your city or team or fans, but if this bid goes to ownership, my prediction is the Rams are looking at twenty more years of futility. Cherish those Warner, Faulk, Holt, Bruce, and Super Bowl years while you can. My condolences.

  99. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 2:43 PM

    Ron In Charlotte says:
    October 9, 2009 2:03 PM
    That’s ok. Any black man that think Obama cares about him and cannot see the destruction that libs have wrought on the black community don’t even deserve a voice.
    Not to mention the wealthy blacks that have a target on their back painted by a prez and Congress that look for every way possible to take their money don’t even care that Rush fights for people to keep their earned money.
    The black mentality keeps the black man down. And the politicians thrive on that opportunity.
    ——————
    Yes, all black people think alike. Or they either think one way or the “black” way. So what’s the white mentality, or the hispanic mentality, or the korean mentality? Could you please fill me in?

  100. ARJR1 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:45 PM

    Honestly folks, who cares what a few dumb jocks have to say anyways? These athletes are consumed with their sport and in the off-season they’re either vacationing in the Bahamas or clubing it with very little knowledge what happens in this country let alone the world. I do find it hilarious that these jocks would not play for Rush LOL! Towards the end of their career when no team will want them and Limbaugh is offering ridiculous to them, we’ll see if their integrity holds up to the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR…hahaha
    I’m really pulling for Rush Limbaugh to get this deal done, it will be awesome!

  101. Bigbluefan says: Oct 9, 2009 2:46 PM

    They are lucky they get to pick who they play for I am stuck I did not vote for Lord Obhama but I am stuck living under his rule

  102. NoRingsForYou says: Oct 9, 2009 2:46 PM

    Rush is all shtick. He found a way to get rich by stirring up the conservatives. If there was more money to be made as a liberal radio host he would’ve taken that route instead. He’s nothing more than an entertainer. His opinions are for amusement purposes only.

  103. Dave The Dude says: Oct 9, 2009 2:48 PM

    Rush Limbaugh has made a career of spreading hatred and fear against MY people, against ME. He has tried to incite violence against black people in America, including our President, for no reason other than his own racist cowardice. He is toilet scum and should be banned from the media, but all you racist white folk would freak out and start crying about your civil rights (which is ironic as hell). How does some old white dude get kicked off the air for saying “nappy-headed ho” when Rush is running around saying we should kill the President because he’s a danger to White America? Or that the only reason we have black quarterbacks is because people want blacks to succeed (what does that even mean? That racist logic could only make sense to a neo-nazi).
    What you whites fail to understand is that us black folk LOVE our first black President, regardless of politics. Yes, I know there a couple Uncle Toms who claim to dislike Obama, but deep down inside, they are thrilled that we finally have a black President and that we are finally living in a society where blacks can live with dignity and without some BS secondary status. You racist idiots are alone because you openly hate us, we will never support racism against our own people. Why would we support you? You have already lost our votes (to vote Republican if you are black is to be an Uncle Tom) because you Republicans, all you can do is spew racist hatred. When the Democrats nominated Obama, it was hilarious to watch the Republicans try to appeal to the “minority voter” by nominating some uneducated white woman from BFE Alaska as your VP. Ha ha ha! You should have tried harder than that! Obama is educated, fool! That white trash Palin just made all the voters laugh at your party and made your racism even more evident. Why not nominate Colin Powell? Because he’s black and no Republican would ever vote for a black man. Must hurt to realize that your party is dying and the best you can do about that is talk a bunch of hatred against gays and blacks, when the whole rest of the country LOVES gays and blacks (turn on your TV or FM radio if you have one and see for yourself).
    Of course no black athlete is going to play for that scumbag. I wouldn’t either, regardless of pay. Come to think of it, as a fan of another NFC West team, maybe Limbaugh SHOULD buy the Rams. I’d love to see their team without any black athletes on it. They wouldn’t be competitive against my son’s high school team.

  104. urbusted says: Oct 9, 2009 2:49 PM

    This is all BS!!! How many of you know all about your employer and his or her political thoughts and postions? Lets assume that 5% of you know all about your empoyer and disagree with their views, and even add strongly disagree. Would you cease to provide for your family and walk away from the paycheck without another job in the wings simply to prove a point? You know you wouldn’t! Don’t throw that racist crap at me either. You can have an opinion regardless of what color you are. I watch movies, but I don’t care what the actors and actresses think politically at all! Same with sports! Actions speak louder than words. If Kiwanuka wants to walk away from his job should that situation ever exist, then he should walk. I won’t care then either.

  105. marcngin says: Oct 9, 2009 2:50 PM

    Florio you are an idiot – and you obviously have no problem with a work stoppage in 2011.
    “Do I see a problem with Rush simply owning a team? No (although, from a day-to-day business standpoint it’s a little more complicated).”
    Umm, let’s see, he didn’t get the MNF job because he is too effacing, he lost his job on ESPN because he can’t keep his prejudisms to himself, so let’s just make him an OWNER in a league bursting with cash, unbiased, international goodwill and are looking for cool-headed businessmen who are willing to help arrange a suitable collective bargaining agreement (read as UNION FRIENDLY)…Does this sound as asinine to anyone else as it does to me? Rush Limbaugh? Well, let’s just throw twenty years of positive work in the NFL (black head coaches, billions in advertising, increasing overseas interest) out the door…
    THEN you can discuss the implications to players who think Limbaugh is an out-and-out racist (and how many more are keeping their mouths SHUT??). You are right, this is a free country and you are entitled to your opinions, but you are NOT entitled to have any position that you can PAY your way into if your are not going to run that business in the ultimate best interests of the employees and stakeholders.
    Limbaugh has proven MORE THAN ONCE that he is not acting in the best interests of the NFL, the fans, or the players, so why even GIVE him the opportunity to bid? If anyone even wants to SEE football in 2011, you’d better think long and hard about who you make an owner, even if they are throwing enough money around to cover the stink of the Rams organization….SELLER (and fans) BEWARE!!

  106. daffy87 says: Oct 9, 2009 2:51 PM

    It isn’t simply Rush Limbaugh buying the team. It’s Dave Cheketts (St.Louis Blues owners) buying the team, but he doesn’t have enough money to do so on his own so he needs a partner. This is where Limbaugh comes in, he can supply the rest of the cash to purchase the Rams. Rush would be a silent partner, Checketts would be running the team. I dont like Limbaugh at all but I do feel this is being blown way out of proportion.

  107. LebronJeremy says: Oct 9, 2009 2:53 PM

    Okay, a lot of really dumb conservatives (I’m being redundant, aren’t I?) Are pointing out that bus incident happened. What they are failing to acknowledge, being that they are, well, dumb conservatives, is that pointing out the incident wasn’t Rush’s intent; he was race-baiting. He said that this type of stuff happens in “Obama’s America.” Why? Just because he’s black?
    Rush’s comments about McNabb? It was entirely conjecture. You know, when McNabb is playing well, there are few quarterbacks who are better, regardless of a media bias. I tend to think that the Ravens and the Patriots are the darlings of the media.
    But far more evidence is provided of Rush’s overt racism when we look at the comments he made about New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin. Regardless of your opinion of Nagin, Rush called him “Ray Nager,” you know, because Ray is black and it makes his name sound really close to the N-word.
    So, there you have it; Rush is a fat, drug addicted, overt racist, pile of sh*t. And he should be allowed to buy into the Rams ownership; it’s a free country. But anyone who has the gumption to squat here and defend his obvious race bias are just as dumb and ignorant to the facts of history as, well, a Rush ditto-head. And Kiwanuka, McNabb and Scott have the right to voice their objections.

  108. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Oct 9, 2009 2:54 PM

    Hey Florio,
    How does Keith Olbermann feel about Kiwanuka saying this about Rush?
    Ask him next time you sleep with him.

  109. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 2:54 PM

    @FloriosErection, I mean, Objection
    As Deb pointed out, never have we heard in Bush’s America or (insert president)’s America before for a local incident. They never would have associated a president to something like this. I guess you want your country back too.
    By the way, that sorry O-Line that you are talking about all have Super Bowl rings.

  110. LebronJeremy says: Oct 9, 2009 2:55 PM

    Oh, urbusted,
    I quit my second job because my boss was a reactionary wing-nut.

  111. notlisteninganymore says: Oct 9, 2009 3:00 PM

    I love watching right wingers get all indignant and start invoking communism and “Rush is a leader.”
    There are plenty of idiots on both sides of the aisle. However, this new age McCarthyism is kind of frightening. Funny how all of the “spending” started with W, but all of the blame and invoking of communism and facism started with Obama being in office.
    If you are concerned about the government taking over your money and your life that started well before Obama was in office and comes from all sides of the political spectrum.
    Now let’s get back to football.

  112. PerryMason says: Oct 9, 2009 3:04 PM

    It’s more than likely that Limbaugh doesn’t believe a word of the nonsense he spouts. It’s just a way to make money off these fool peckerwood nut jobs that pay his bills.

  113. GobiasINC_1 says: Oct 9, 2009 3:06 PM

    I like all these comments about how Rush Limbaugh is right in everything he says, followed by people threatening to punch Florio in the face or referring to African Americans as “violent blacks” whose behavior needs to be cleaned up. You really get a feeling for Limbaugh’s demographic.
    No matter your politics, Rush Limbaugh has done a great job in this country of broadcasting hate, intolerance and racism for the better part of two decades. It is no surprise there are high-profile NFL players taking this hard-edged stance against Mr. Limbaugh.
    Anyone who plays a song called “Barack the Magic Negro” on his radio show is going to be boycotted by a league where most of the players are African American. It’s as simple as that.

  114. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 3:07 PM

    @urbusted
    You are an idiot. IT IS NOT ABOUT DIFFERING VIEWS. He is a race-baiter PERIOD. I don’t care if my employer is pro-choice or pro-life, pro-universal healthcare or not, pro-same-sex marriage or not. This is NOT about the issues of America. This is NOT a conservative/liberal argument. That is the problem with this country. Everyone wants to be put in a group and argue for the group regardless of the issue. If Rush became pro-choice all the cons. would become pro-choice and the libs would become pro-life. SHEEP.
    This is about a guy who makes a living dividing America on racial lines. That’s the difference.

  115. hullobudman says: Oct 9, 2009 3:10 PM

    I am certainly not a Rush fan. I am not a fan of any radio/TV personality that just says and does things for shock value BUT his schtick is no different now that Obama is president than when Clinton was president. It just gets more play than it did then because Clinton is white and Obama is black.

  116. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 3:12 PM

    @marcngin,
    What you said is just the tip of the iceberg of “a little more complicated.”

  117. texasPHINSfan says: Oct 9, 2009 3:19 PM

    it’s one thing to stand up and proclaim you won’t play there for any amount of money.
    it’s another altogether if you actually turn down the highest contract you’re offered.
    i’m guessing if rush owned the rams and they were offering huge contracts to players that weren’t getting similar offers elsewhere, they’d sign.
    their moral stand won’t defeat millions of dollars, sorry.

  118. PlayMaker88 says: Oct 9, 2009 3:19 PM

    A few lines is all it takes….Most black guys that like football dont like this guy. Everyone has their own reasons and most are because of something dumb he said. Or how this guy is always acting high and mighty and he is/was a dopehead. He’s a true DH peckerwood and everyone knows it

  119. Tillman says: Oct 9, 2009 3:20 PM

    So he can’t be an owner because some perceive him as a racist? But…..we can allow a man to become President when he sits in a church for 20 years listening to racist comments about whites and hateful comments about Jews? Double standard??

  120. kayC says: Oct 9, 2009 3:22 PM

    Dave the Dude’s diatribe was by far the most racist thing that has been said on the subject– by any of the commenters here, by Florio, by Limbaugh, or by Kiwi, McNabb, or Bart Scott. Way to go, Dave the Dude. You win the Hate-Filled Rant of the Day. Now aren’t you proud of yourself?

  121. Twiz says: Oct 9, 2009 3:25 PM

    “The only remaining questions, in our view, are whether he’ll paint himself as a victim of bias and intolerance if his bid is withdrawn or rejected…….”
    Of course he will become the victim. That is what he is best at. He did it regarding his addiction, he has constantly done it when Dems won Congress, he did it when Obama won the election.
    Rush is nothing but a racist pig, and those that follow the words he spews are nothing but lemmings. Anyone that has the audacity to say that anyone that doesn’t agree with him and his views are wrong is an idiot.
    Before anyone says I need to listen to him I have done so quite a few times. I personally try to get all points of view before forming an opinion. I’ll admit, its been a year or so since listening to him, but I seriously doubt he has changed that much since he was declaring “America held hostage” during the Clinton years. At least he never did while Dubya was in office…….
    Anyone with the ‘nads to say they wouldn’t play for him is 100% on the money and deserves props for speaking out, no matter if white, black or green!

  122. Fan_Of_ Four says: Oct 9, 2009 3:28 PM

    As a human being I wouldn’t work for this POS.

  123. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 3:32 PM

    @playmaker88
    LOL

  124. damnitall says: Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM

    @kayC says:
    October 9, 2009 3:22 PM
    Well said.

  125. Deb says: Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM

    @ARJR1 …
    Many NFL players leave the sport and go on to successful business and political careers. Since they had the brains and discipline to excel at a complex game while keeping themselves in peak condition and sparring with media sharks, why would you assume they’re too stupid to understand politics? Could you be more condescending?
    These are professional, hard-working American citizens, commenting on something that affects THEIR industry. They have even more right to speak to these issues than you do. And from the comments you’ve made, they also probably have 10 times your intellect!

  126. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 3:35 PM

    And for all of those people saying they’re football players so who cares what they think, do you care when they get arrested? Why should you, given that they’re football players so they should just play football?

  127. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 3:35 PM

    @tillman
    1. Obama didn’t make the statements.
    2. Father Flagler is Wright’s good friend. He is white.
    3. The denomination that the church is apart of is 90% white.
    4. Obama is 1/2 White. Raised by white grandparents.
    give me a break! Stop listening to Rush

  128. DocBG says: Oct 9, 2009 3:36 PM

    # PITTSUCKS says: October 9, 2009 1:41 PM
    Oh but if a white player said he wouldn’t play for a black owner, heads would be rolling.
    —————————————————–
    Heads wouldn’t roll, the guy would be black balled from ever playing pro football again.
    Racism works both ways folks. Never forget it. You beeding hearts should be ashamed of yourselves right now. Aren’t you the fools screaming for free speach every time a picture of the virgin mary put in a jar of urine? You claim art and let it ride. Here is a regular guy on the radio, telling people that don’t have a job that they should look for one and take responsibility for themselves and you are outraged over that? You have the balls to call that racism? He never said donovan was a bad QB, he said that media was overhyping the guy because the media wants to see a black QB do good. WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE RACISM IN THAT? He’s got nothing against mcnabb either way. All he’s commenting on is the media’s reaction to mcnabb, not what he thinks of him personally.
    When people on here say that favre sucks, or that rodgers sucks, it doesnt have ANYTHING to do with their race, If i’m of the opinion that mcnabb sucks and tavaris jackson sucks, why in the hell should that have anything do with their race?
    There is a little grandstanding going on by alot of people right now, NFL players too. I’d imagine that MOST of them, after actually meeting and talking to Rush, would be happy to play for the rams should he buy them.
    Look at it this way, He’s brought more attention to that franchise in 2 days that they’ve been able to do themselves in almost 10 years…..

  129. dzil says: Oct 9, 2009 3:37 PM

    I love it. athletes pretending to have a brain. keep it up, guys. show your true colors. just proves that bigots come in two flavors

  130. ben6969 says: Oct 9, 2009 3:39 PM

    This is why I like my politics for breakfest and my sports for dinner… You cant eat cereal and Tuna, it just dont go together…

  131. urbusted says: Oct 9, 2009 3:41 PM

    LebronJeremy says:
    October 9, 2009 2:55 PM
    Oh, urbusted,
    I quit my second job because my boss was a reactionary wing-nut.
    Way to take a stand on the SECOND job. You got my point. What kind of wing-nut are you? Don’t be a hater. Peace out.

  132. Wonderlic---myballs says: Oct 9, 2009 3:41 PM

    @ DaveThe Dude- That take was even more cutting then when you said” I’m sorry,but Beyonce’ had one of the best videos OF ALL TIME!”

  133. Colbert Report says: Oct 9, 2009 3:44 PM

    rockotica says:
    October 9, 2009 1:55 PM
    clarence thomas and michael steele disagree with mathias.
    To: Micheal Steele
    HEY MIKE STEELE GONNA STEAL THE MIC WITH A FLOW SO RICH IT WILL GET A TAX HIKE. DROPPING RHYMES SO FINE IT WILL MAKE YOU BLUSH AND BE SO FAT YOU CAN CALL THEM RUSH. OH SAY CAN YOU SEE BY YOUR MOMS UGLY FACE WE WONT NEED SCALIA TO RULE ON THIS CASE. THE CHAIRMAN IS MISSING CALL NANCY GRACE AND STRIKE UP THE RIGHT WING REPUBLICAN BASE. UH YEAH YEAH
    YOU BETTER GET A VOUCHER CAUSE YOUR RHYMES IS FAILING. YOUR GAMES A DYING MOOSE AND IM SARAH PALIN. YOU GONNA DIAPPEAR LIKE THE MIDDLE CLASS. TAKE A PIECE OF MY PENNY LOAFER AND STICK THE REST UP YOUR A$$.
    SO YOU KNOW I GOT THE SKILLS TO PAY MY PRIVATE SCHOOL CHILDREN’ S BILLS. : )
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/colberts-rap-for-michael_n_177297.html
    “A CONSERVATIVE LEADER LIKE ME TRYING TO APPEAL TO A HIP-HOP AUDIENCE THAT INSANE IN THE MEMBRANE”

  134. Steeler4life says: Oct 9, 2009 3:46 PM

    @DavetheDude
    I have to disagree with you. I don’t consider a black person who votes Republican an Uncle Tom. All people have a right to vote for anyone that they choose. Sheep vote for people that others tell them to vote for. We all have opinions about issues. We CAN be different. What I consider an Uncle Tom is
    1. Someone black who would not allow there kids to listen to an Obama speech to the students because he is going to brainwash the kids. That’s ignorant.
    2. Someone black who thinks it is ok for a congressman from South Carolina to call the President a liar at a congressional address. That’s disrespectful.
    3. Someone who would support Limbaugh stating that In Obama’s America, blacks can suppress whites. That’s foolish!
    An Uncle Tom is someone who hates himself and will do and say anything to gain approval from others.

  135. pedey01 says: Oct 9, 2009 3:49 PM

    I put Rush Limbaugh in the same group as Michael Moore…. A couple of fat losers who have made a living by saying outlandish things to stir the pot. I seriously doubt the NFL would allow Limbaugh in as a minority owner. The guy has absolutely no tact and has alienated millions of people in this country with his extreme views. I’d prefer to see Limbaugh and Michael Moore compete in the biggest loser weight loss show instead

  136. TheBaySay says: Oct 9, 2009 3:49 PM

    Actually, my highly placed informants tell me that Limbaugh plans to buy Minnesota and rename them The Vicodins.

  137. CurseofBoJackson says: Oct 9, 2009 3:50 PM

    FlorioObjection: Your ability to deny Rush’s sometimes obvious and sometimes veiled racism and race baiting is indicative of your lack of objective perspective.
    Beyond that, the comment he made about kids beating up white kids etc… was made to incite the less intelligent listeners of his show (from what I see on the comments section it’s most of you) to think that Barak Obama has something to do with how junior high kids act on a bus. Further evidence of your lack of objective perspective, as well as your lack of intelligence. You know what the defense of him tells me? That you carry as much hate as he does, veiled or not. Congrats

  138. schism says: Oct 9, 2009 3:50 PM

    Americans, it soo fnny, you’re either democrat or republican, left or right, you end up being afraid of flip flopping, and have people leaning stupidly to the left, or completely retardedly to the right.

  139. birdmancometh says: Oct 9, 2009 3:54 PM

    True kayC. I have to wonder if Dude is actually just a psycho. Hatred is aparently wrong only going in one direction. No wonder more progress can’t be made. Get a grip Dude, you’re not helping.

  140. ZN0rseman says: Oct 9, 2009 3:55 PM

    The funniest things in the comments so far…
    1: Guys who have obviously never listened to Rush commenting about him being a hate monger.
    2: Black people decrying racist comments supposedly coming from whites in one breath, and then ironically following it up with their own horribly racist comments against whites in the next.
    3: The stupidity of people who claims that everyone on the other side of the political isle is stupid or ignorant. Perhaps you guys should look in the mirror once in awhile to get a better grasp on the definition of ignorance?

  141. LebronJeremy says: Oct 9, 2009 3:57 PM

    Tillman,
    I think you must look up John Hagee, Pat Robertson, and Jerry Falwell. If you had no problem with McCain or Bush listening to these guys, then you are a hypocrite.
    Hypocrite.

  142. skf727 says: Oct 9, 2009 4:00 PM

    I sure hope Dave the Dude is some pimply-faced 17yr white kid faking like he is a black guy.
    Intolerance…check
    Hate-filled…check
    Misinformed…CHECK
    Destined to die a sad, unhappy, bitter man…Check
    You know why blacks aren’t the largest minority in the US anymore? It’s because all those friendly Democrat politicans have made damn sure that you can all get to the neighborhood Planned Parenthood in time. In a shocking comment that drew zero national scrutiny, Justice Ginsburg said back in June what the deal was
    http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=50819
    Wake up, Dave to who is keeping the “black community” down.
    By replacing father figures with welfare checks, the Dems not only guarantee generations of grinding poverty in the wealthiest country in the world they also guarantee a solid block of voters to extend these insidious programs!
    Your problem aint Limbaugh. Look in the mirror.

  143. LebronJeremy says: Oct 9, 2009 4:00 PM

    KayC,
    There is no way that Dave the Dude is black. No one denigrates their own culture that much. That was as racist towards blacks as it was to whites.
    I haven’t the slightest doubt that he is a ringer.

  144. PittsburghPope says: Oct 9, 2009 4:09 PM

    I’ve listened to Rush Limbaugh many times, and he is without a doubt more than a simple jackass; Rush Limbaugh is a cancerous growth on American culture getting rich as he beats the drums for the next Civil War in this country. In fact, apparently he has gotten so rich that he now intends to buy an American sports franchise. This man deserves to rot in hell–sell him the Cleveland Browns.

  145. Clintron says: Oct 9, 2009 4:13 PM

    Rush Limbaugh is an ugly, hateful piece of trash. I wouldn’t play for him either.

  146. Wonderlic---myballs says: Oct 9, 2009 4:14 PM

    sshhhhh….Dave The Dude…..is …Florio!!! What a genius!

  147. troll_aikman8 says: Oct 9, 2009 4:19 PM

    You really can’t compare Olbermann and Limbaugh in your lame analogies. Politically they are polar opposites, but only one of them is a racist, drug addict.
    You can hate on Keith all you want for being and sounding smater than you, but you can tell the guy is a sincerely compassionate nerd. Rush Limbaugh thinly veils his racism, xenophobia and slew of other insecurities to make it a profitable empire. Hats off to him. But the two are very different beyond political beliefs.

  148. slipkid says: Oct 9, 2009 4:23 PM

    rush is philo-semitic, he wouldnt be caught dead near the klan or anything like it. and kiwanuka would stfu and cash the checks. that’s what he would do.
    it is interesting that blacks support obama so much. he is wrecking the country, and they are the ones losing their jobs and homes first. they dont see the connection. iq test, anyone?
    foreign leaders snub obama regularly and wont even shake his hand. methinks they know something most americans wont admit. obama was installed. he wasnt eligible to run. and he is in so far over his head, he cant breathe.
    blacks are violent and are allowed to get away with it. that needs to end. free speech is free speech. keep yer hands to yerself.
    frankly, who cares if a jackass calls one racist? racism exists and there isnt a damn thing that can be done about it. but the truly violent members of society are the ones calling names and trying to modify the majority into being nutless. hey name callers – STFU and go to hades. better yet, get a real job. and to all those white liberals, who i call disingenuous white liberals, stop enabling the name callers. cause obama is merely using you anyway. he will discard you soon enough.
    and btw, to the extent that the bogus health care reform bill addressed health care at all… guess what… it wont provide for health care for the grandpas and grandmas of the majority. just who do yall think obama wants to go away and tout suite… death panels for opponents of resident zero!
    mccain wasnt unelected due to palin. she is genuine. mccain and colon bowel are not grassroots. they roll with the democrat agenda. that’s why the media loves them!
    the media and the left fear palin cause she isnt of them.

  149. se18a29 says: Oct 9, 2009 4:25 PM

    God Bless Rush!
    Screw the assh*les who always use the race card.
    Obama the clown is the real racist, American hating, socialist pig trying to destroy America. Open your eyes LIBTARDS. Everyone knows liberalism is a mental illness…

  150. Devils Advocate says: Oct 9, 2009 4:27 PM

    i just wanted to wait until the end so I could tell most of you a$$holes how friggin retarded you are

  151. WashingtonRedstorms says: Oct 9, 2009 4:29 PM

    Do you really think we care what you think?
    Most of mindwashed race traitors are useless.
    Look at all the major cities falling apart which culture is dominate?
    Olberman sucks too, he is a narsassitic arrogant gump as well.

  152. mnmaverick says: Oct 9, 2009 4:33 PM

    Rush Limbaugh is more qualified to be an owner than Al Franken is to be a Senator.

  153. birdmancometh says: Oct 9, 2009 4:34 PM

    “This man deserves to rot in hell–sell him the Cleveland Browns”
    A little crude, but still….ZING!

  154. dancing foot says: Oct 9, 2009 4:39 PM

    VoxVeritas and Pete 427,
    Your stuff almost made slogging through this craziness worth it.

  155. realityonetwo says: Oct 9, 2009 4:41 PM

    BearNDesert says:
    October 9, 2009 1:54 PM
    Ugh, shut-up and play football. I love how these players suddenly have “principles”. Limbaugh may be a blow-hard and a jerk, but that’s practically a requirement for NFL owners (Al Davis, Jerry Jones, etc.).
    Offer them enough money and they’ll forget their principles.
    ——
    You hit the nail on the head. It made me laugh to hear Bart Scott say, “I can’t be bought.” He’s already been bought. And when he’s no longer capable enough to play they’ll throw him out on the rubbish heap where he belongs.

  156. Bo Darville says: Oct 9, 2009 4:44 PM

    People throw around the term “racist” far too loosely. Just because you disagree with somebody’s point of view doesn’t mean they’re racist, reverse racist, or whatever. People who give political opinions are, by nature, going to offend some people. We can disagree with each other without being racist, evil, loony, etc. The people taking issue with Limbaugh’s comments about the bus and everything are looking for a reason to have problems with it. Just let it go and deal with the fact that not everybody has the same points-of-view as you. It doesn’t impact your life one iota what Rush Limbaugh says or doesn’t say.
    Football is non-political. It’s supposed to be a place where we can go to get away from the idiotic political discussions. I don’t care who owns the teams.

  157. txtumbleweed says: Oct 9, 2009 4:46 PM

    I’m just glad it is the Rams he wants to buy!
    Go Niners 6-0 in the Superbowl is our goal!!

  158. Hosstyle In Tampa says: Oct 9, 2009 4:47 PM

    Conservatism is a mental disorder…

  159. Tillman says: Oct 9, 2009 4:59 PM

    Are our 3 previous Presidents drug addicts? Our current talked about his drug use and coke and Bush supposedly did coke. Clinton lied about his use (shoker). Is it cool for them or are the druggies too?
    Those of you giving Obama a pass for sitting in that chuch for 20 years shows how biased and what kool-aid drinkers you are. And whoever said that church was 90% white-needs to look at the hate filled seromons of America hating Rev. Wright.-looked like most of the people were African Americans.
    If Rush wants to but the Rams he can-it’s a free country!

  160. Saintnation says: Oct 9, 2009 5:00 PM

    kappa08 says:
    my guess is that you’re white and probably found yourself at a rally with a teabag on your head….NOT a particularly intellectual group of *ahem* Americans that have become the blight of our nation….
    LOL, and you say Rush is racist…..

  161. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 5:00 PM

    Don’t take anything Dave the Dude says seriously. He would rather have women raped, children molested, and people murdered than dogs killed. He’s out of touch whether he’s black or any other ethnicity, it doesn’t matter.

  162. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 9, 2009 5:03 PM

    @# Pete427 says: October 9, 2009 2:04 PM
    I’ve reviewed your application, Mr. Limbaugh. Just because you would be a ‘minority owner’, it doesn’t mean that you will technically ‘own minorities’. I just wanted to clear that up.
    LMMFAO

  163. Abe Froeman says: Oct 9, 2009 5:15 PM

    If I were from the South I would say something, “Oh that slipkid, bless his heart.”

  164. TheWizard says: Oct 9, 2009 5:16 PM

    If Limbaugh were to buy in, I’ll bet he would have Cowher filling the Bill Belichick role before the sun went down.
    As far as the guys who wouldn’t play on his team, good riddance.
    The idea that someone, anyone has to prove they’re NOT a racist is absurd, and I’m no longer playing into it.

  165. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 5:26 PM

    And empty13/slipkid joins in the fun with his obligatory, actual racist remark: “blacks are violent and are allowed to get away with it.”
    The stupidity of that sentence is so mind numbing, especially when you consider that I’m pretty sure that there are more black people in prison than any other race. Or maybe I’m wrong.
    I hope Florio bans you again just for the stupid things that you used to post. You’re an idiot.

  166. ARJR1 says: Oct 9, 2009 5:27 PM

    @ DEB,
    “Many NFL players leave the sport and go on to successful business and political careers. Since they had the brains and discipline to excel at a complex game while keeping themselves in peak condition and sparring with media sharks, why would you assume they’re too stupid to understand politics? Could you be more condescending?”
    Deb, first off, get your facts straight…it’s not many it’s only a FEW select NFL players that can make the adjustment from sports to politics and I can whole-heartedly say without a doubt that McNabb and Kiwanuka are NOT those same caliber of athletes and yes, I can be more condescending.
    “These are professional, hard-working American citizens, commenting on something that affects THEIR industry. They have even more right to speak to these issues than you do. And from the comments you’ve made, they also probably have 10 times your intellect!”
    Spare me the patriotic hard working American citizen speech. And you’re wrong, we “tax-paying American citizen have as much right to speak about these so called issues as the players do. Afterall, it was tax payer who paid for the stadiums, it is tax payers who purchase tickets to watch these individuals play football and it is us tax payers who will no doubt pay thousands in merchandising. Stop being a cheerleader, I said nothing wrong yet you try to insult my intellect….this speaks poorly of your parents.

  167. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 5:29 PM

    “People throw around the term “racist” far too loosely.”
    Agreed, but that idiot, empty13 who is now slipkid, is one racist coward who uses the internet as a way to release all of that pent up racism that he can’t release in the outside world.

  168. DocBG says: Oct 9, 2009 5:33 PM

    pedey01 says: October 9, 2009 3:49 PM
    the NFL would allow Limbaugh in as a minority owner.
    ——————————————————
    What are you trying to say here? are you actually suggesting that Limbaugh “owns” minorities? Honestly, what kind of scum are you to suggest that slavery is still going on in this country? Pedey01, those are your exact words, exactly as you wrote them, Grow up a little and have some sense about whats going on.
    I highly doubt that anyone other than pedey01 will bother rechecking what he wrote up above, and once he does he will certainly claim that he’s been taken out of context and that I’m maligning him. This is as true for what he said as it is for whats being said about Limbaugh. You folks that hate the guy are only hearing partial soundbites that the main stream media wants you to hear. listen for yourself and stop being such good lemmings. I doubt this will make any sense to most of you people, but the ones that understand what demonstrating absurdity by being absurd will.

  169. FrankfordYellowJackets says: Oct 9, 2009 5:41 PM

    Rascist stuff aside -
    Before Rush buys an NFL team someone should ask him what an upstanding conservative like himself was doing on an all guy trip to the Dominican Republic, a country known for its thriving child sex trade, with a bottle of Viagra and no female companion?

  170. Display Name says: Oct 9, 2009 5:41 PM

    These players are just Racist. After all, they disagree with a white man so they MUST be racist. Right?
    If a white person disagrees with O’ Bama Bin Ladin that makes him or her racist… so the racist White House says anyway…

  171. Viking Kong says: Oct 9, 2009 5:43 PM

    I am now dumber for having read this discussion.
    In the article, it was amusing to hear the responses of certain players. I guess those players would want to stoke racism by forcing a team to be all-white and probably represent the all-racist team.

  172. Rocky70 says: Oct 9, 2009 5:47 PM

    This in all likelyhood is a non-issue.
    Rush has zero chance of even a part-ownership in the NFL….. Remember Rule 1 in the NFL handbook………. “not in the best interests of the NFL……….”
    Rush is a waste of oxygen & has a place in hell reserved………… He won’t even get the chance to explain his life at the pearly gates entrance – his elevator is going down only.

  173. mike says: Oct 9, 2009 5:55 PM

    McNabb is a racist. Oprah is a racist. Obama, and especially, his wife, are racist. I could go on and on.
    It’s not “whitey” that causing trouble these days. I don’t see a “White Entertainment Television” on the tv.

  174. GRpatriot says: Oct 9, 2009 6:06 PM

    Rams fans if the choice is Limbaugh or move to LA which do you prefer?
    What does Ralph Edwards, Al Davis and Ziggy Wilf think about the situation? ………………………………………………………………………………..crickets………………………….more crickets……………………………
    Nobody knows thier politics! Let’s see these guys are Billionaires, pay tons of taxes……..wait, you don’t think any of the owners are Republicans, do you?
    Nah, otherwise wouldn’t there be all white players? (pretty stupid sentiment) I heard KC RB say that he didn’t think he could play for a white coach( Larry Johnson, when Herm Edwards was hired) I guess Haley and Pioli swapped races….
    Talk about hypocrocy…..

  175. Klytus says: Oct 9, 2009 6:10 PM

    I wonder what an ownership by a publicly known bigot would do to the carefully crafted image of the NFL? You already know the answer.
    GO STEELERS!

  176. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 6:19 PM

    “It’s not “whitey” that causing trouble these days. I don’t see a “White Entertainment Television” on the tv. ”
    It was called TNN.

  177. Murabma says: Oct 9, 2009 6:28 PM

    Rush leads an army of largely un- or undereducated scared white folks seeing their way of life disappear (economically, with the decline of industrial America, and socially, with the rise in social equality for minorities and women) and preys on their fears of “the other” to his own large profit and to the detriment of the country as a whole. The guy’s basically a hypocritical disgrace, a hawk who decided not to serve personally while growing up during the Vietnam war, a well-known rager against minority drug addicts and criminals who conceals his own drug addiction and law breaking. Anyone who listens to him is made stupider for doing so……

  178. demosthenes says: Oct 9, 2009 6:29 PM

    The Liberal Progressive Democrats have and continue to be the biggest abusers of the African American community. What have the Dems brought them?
    Decades of disasterous welfare that has continued their enslavement and destroyed their family cohesivness. Where are the black fathers in the homes? Not there because the Dems made their presence unnecessary.
    Continued support for racist eugenics programs aimed at minorities in the form of Planned Parenthood. (All the big abortion mills are in the inner city. Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger was all for eliminating all the inferior races.)
    They don’t know who their real enemy/oppressor is. Dems use public programs to suppress growth for the Black community just to secure them as a voting block.
    WAKE UP!!! Conservatives are not the Enemy.

  179. tobago says: Oct 9, 2009 6:30 PM

    Good for Kiawunuka, i agree totally. Limbaugh is an overt racist.This is an era in which having a black President seems to have divided the country into black and white. A world in which if you claim racism you are seen as being too thin skinned or having misunderstood what the person said. Kudos to Kiawunuka, more athletes black and white should speak like he did.

  180. Zaggs says: Oct 9, 2009 6:31 PM

    “All I know is from the last comment I heard, he said in [President] Obama’s America, white kids are getting beat up on the bus while black kids are chanting ‘right on,’” Kiwanuka said, per the New York Daily News. “I mean, I don’t want anything to do with a team that he has any part of. He can do whatever he wants, it is a free country. But if it goes through, I can tell you where I am not going to play.
    Does Kiwi know this actually HAPPENED! It was videotaped for crying out loud. The idea that Kiwi seems this was made up because he seems to thinks blacks would never do such a thing does lead one to wonder if he is racist.

  181. jreed says: Oct 9, 2009 6:36 PM

    Wow, Really come on! This is not really a Black-white, or Rep-Dem Issue. Rush said something that someone took offense to (Shocker!!) and they feel that they could not have a boss who felt that way (Double Shocker!!) Rush is a talking head that hypes up the Conservative right wing Republicans. It is a big “NO DUH” That some people would not like the things he talks about on the Radio. I myself do not agree with the man…But I would still love to take money from him ;)

  182. QotSA says: Oct 9, 2009 6:42 PM

    Get off Florio’s nuts. This could potentially be a big deal. Don’t let this story die, Mike.

  183. TheDPR says: Oct 9, 2009 6:47 PM

    Racism.
    The problem isn’t black people. The problem isn’t white people. The problem is stupid people.
    Exacerbating the problem is that both white people and black people keep out-stupiding each other.
    Whenever some black douche like Kanye West pulls something idiotic the white racist morons come flying out of the woodwork with their 2 cents and whenever Rush Limbaugh does anything other than his radio show the black racist morons come flying out, too.
    I HATE this age of easy, mass communication, where any idiot with a working mouth of set of fingers can put whatever retarded thought that crosses his mind out for public consumption.

  184. Smush Rodrigez says: Oct 9, 2009 6:55 PM

    Paul_R. says:
    October 9, 2009 1:53 PM
    _____
    to say that the defense carried the Eagles is absurd. McNabb has carried the Eagles. Stats do not tell a story.

  185. Paul_R. says: Oct 9, 2009 7:02 PM

    You know, there’s media people who have the balls to write the truth, regardless of what the media thinks. Allen Barra is one such media person.
    http://www.slate.com/id/2089193/
    Florio isn’t. Rather, he’s a limp-wristed lackey who’s sole interest is generating page views on his site and stirring the pot in order to accomplish this. His commitment is to his own wallet and nothing else. He’ll likely continue to pat himself on the back when other media (who also have more balls than Florio) might refer to statements in one of Florio’s articles. Yes, Florio will go over the edge as long as he sees the financial benefit of doing so.
    But then, this is America and the “American Dream” is to make something out of nothing. Congrats, Florio, you’ve made something out of nothing, built on stirring up crap and hiding in the shadows of your wallet. When will your next racially charged post arrive? Shouldn’t be too long, seeing how this one has generated the page views, right?
    NBC sure has changed you, no doubt about it.

  186. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Oct 9, 2009 7:03 PM

    If Rush met with Kiwanuka and said “Look, I don’t want you to be taxed at 90%, that’s what I fight for…I am quite sure, Matt would play for him, as would many of the guys playing in the NFL who get reamed by the Obama government.
    And will continue to get screwed. rush mgiht even do something about that SCANDALOUS number that came out of former NFL players being destitute.
    You would think Mike Florio, King of the Downtrodden, Helper of the Poor and Genral of the Army to Fight Homelessness would care about that.
    But that story went right into the shitter.
    Not surprising at all Florio.

  187. LeeB says: Oct 9, 2009 7:05 PM

    Message to Rush: Why waste your money on this turkey? Besides, obama will get to roger to muzzle you, and you know it.
    Rush has a propensity to tell it like it is and libs don’t like it because they want to continue keeping the black man down and dependent.
    Case in point, kiwakuna is this looser that is upset with Rush for retelling of an actual incident that occured. Libs would prefer to make a grand federal case when a black kid is beat up by white kids, but the same event in reverse is buried by the state run media. But that Rush has the audacity to say it happened.
    Wait until obama nationalizes sports and bring your salary to minimum, including your mr. kiwakuna.

  188. Porno Mike says: Oct 9, 2009 7:11 PM

    ROTFF! And what did I tell your dopey wingnut asses yesterday? Stroll down memory lane, mouth-breathers:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/08/limbaugh-gets-support-from-an-unlikely-source/#comment-746878
    PORNO MIKE own an NFL team before Fat draftdodger ever does and if you ignorant displaced Bushies don’t like it I suggest you get together at your next klan meeting and start your own World Wingnut League Football (WWLF) made up of nothing but angry white fat guys with closeted homosexual tendencies. Good luck with that, lamers.

  189. Smush Rodrigez says: Oct 9, 2009 7:19 PM

    The DPR. Could not agree more.
    The media also takes snippets of a conversation and takes quotes out of context to stir the pot. The media did not report that when McNabb was talking he was laughing – totally not being serious. I know he doesn’t like Rush but he did not go out of his way to say anything – the reporters went out of their way to ask him and he made a joke.

  190. Deb says: Oct 9, 2009 7:21 PM

    @ARJR1
    I said “Many NFL players leave the sport and go on to successful business and political careers.” I should have said AND/OR political careers rather than assuming that was understood.
    You posted “who cares what a few dumb jocks have to say anyways? These athletes are consumed with their sport … with very little knowledge of what happens in this country let alone the world.”
    How do you know they have little knowledge of what happens in the country or world? You’re making a sweeping judgment of people you don’t know because they’re athletes. You’re upset that I insulted your intellect yet you insulted theirs. And they, too, are taxpayers. I didn’t say you don’t have the right to speak on these issues; I said since it’s their industry they have even more right to speak than you–or me.
    You’re very quick to cry out when a sharp tongue grazes you, but somehow think it doesn’t matter when you take aim at someone else. But you’re right. I could have made my point without insulting your intellect. My parents did teach me better. And for that I apologize.

  191. Paul_R. says: Oct 9, 2009 7:22 PM

    Smush Rodrigez says:
    to say that the defense carried the Eagles is absurd. McNabb has carried the Eagles. Stats do not tell a story.
    __________________________
    Read the story and take note of the date in 2003, just after Limbaugh spoke his so-called outrageous and racist words.
    http://www.slate.com/id/2089193/
    And, yes, stats DO tell a story. Bad stats are bad stats, plain and simple. And, if a quarterback’s stats are bad, then he’s not a good quarterback.

  192. Abe Froeman says: Oct 9, 2009 8:02 PM

    I can’t fricken believe the number of morons out there that think Rush is some sort of American savior. It’s unbelievable. He’s just in it for the money people. He doesn’t even believe most of what he says. Wow.

  193. Deb says: Oct 9, 2009 8:09 PM

    @DevilsAdvocate …
    You actually thought you’d made it to the end of this discussion? Seriously?
    That’s the nuttiest thing anyone has posted.

  194. Clintron says: Oct 9, 2009 8:13 PM

    Nice to know so many PFT readers are idiot conservative windbags like Rush Limbaugh. Keep festering, losers!

  195. Abe Froeman says: Oct 9, 2009 8:18 PM

    Ok, anyone who things McNabb is a “barely mediocre” quarterback knows nothing about football. Next.

  196. antneejay2 says: Oct 9, 2009 8:24 PM

    Although it’s not nearly enough to change mind, this page is the best argument against democracy I’ve ever come across.

  197. Ocelot138 says: Oct 9, 2009 8:39 PM

    Terrorist attacks on US soil under George W Bush: 1, thousands dead.
    Terrorist attacks on US soil under Obama: 0
    Crazy liberals bringing guns to presidential rallies under Bush: 0
    Crazy rednecks bringing guns to Obama rallies: 1 (that we know of) and counting.

  198. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 9, 2009 9:10 PM

    Racism is the rallying cry of the ignorant who have been offended and cannot defend themselves any other way.

  199. Paul_R. says: Oct 9, 2009 9:44 PM

    Abe Froeman says:
    Ok, anyone who things McNabb is a “barely mediocre” quarterback knows nothing about football. Next.
    _____________________________
    At the time the article was written in 2003, just a week or so after Limbaugh’s statements, McNabb was “barely mediocre”. You can look at what he did afterwards, but this was all about what he had done up to that point, in his first four seasons.

  200. TheWizard says: Oct 9, 2009 9:54 PM

    He’s just in it for the money people. He doesn’t even believe most of what he says. Wow.
    I was taught that liberals often (well ok, always) accuse others of their own sins.

  201. Abe Froeman says: Oct 9, 2009 10:19 PM

    Ok Paul_R, thanks for showing your real football knowledge. McNabb was a 24 yr old quarterback who had shown a ton of potential at that point. Most Qbs take well into their mid 20′s to reach greatness, and furthermore McNabb’s TD-INT ratios were quite good in his early years.
    And as your post, and history shows, McNabb reached that potential. And I freaking can’t stand the Eagles, and have absolutely no inclination to root for any player on the basis of their skin color, especially an Eagle player. I mean I really can’t stand McNabb, and his grab the phone and show off ideas in last year playoffs.
    But to suggest that McNabb was ever only considered good on the basis of his race his ignorance at its finest.

  202. Abe Froeman says: Oct 9, 2009 10:27 PM

    @TheWizard
    That’s great you were taught that. Really great. What does that have to Limbaugh?
    Dodge and avoid much?

  203. mr.kush says: Oct 9, 2009 10:30 PM

    obama won the nobel peace prize, rush limbaugh won a free big mac and mcdonald’s, rush has no idea how to run a football team, obama knows how to run a nation.
    obama-1
    rush-0
    God Bless America

  204. TRAMO says: Oct 9, 2009 10:34 PM

    I remeber in the 90′s when the espn crew was camparing kordel stewart to favre,young and aikmen ,what a joke!.they also pushed hard for charles woodsen to win the heisman over peyton manning. espn is about like nbc when it comes to political correctness

  205. J-Cuts says: Oct 9, 2009 10:37 PM

    @tillman
    1. Obama didn’t make the statements.
    2. Father Flagler is Wright’s good friend. He is white.
    3. The denomination that the church is apart of is 90% white.
    4. Obama is 1/2 White. Raised by white grandparents.
    give me a break! Stop listening to Rush
    1.) No shit. That is not what was said learn to read.
    2.)His name is Phlager and he is the very essence of an asshole. He recently hung the American flag upside down in front of his church. While he is white, he is a race-baiter who blames the white man for the ills of the all black community of which he is a priest in. My guess is to further fills his his pockets with Fed. grants so he continue to drive brand new Caddies. Not bad for a priest.
    3.)Neither the church that Phlager is the head of or that Wright was the head of has ANY significant amounts of whites.
    4.)Is this something new?
    Stop listening to retards.
    ——————————————————————–
    For the record:
    I don’t think Obama is a racist.
    I think Donovan is very good QB. Not quite elite, but a premier QB.
    If dude doesn’t want to play for Rush than good for him.
    Reverse racism is a white man discriminating against a white man. Not a black man discriminating against a white man. This is English and words have meanings.
    If the NFL owners don’t want Rush(they don’t) to own a team than that is their right.
    I don’t listen to Rush so I don’t have an opinion on him.
    To say that a person is racist simply because you disagree is the sign of an idiot. Why? Because you cannot articulate any facts or sound reasoning to back up your assertion. The amount of times you call somebody racist is a direct correlation to how stupid you are.
    I look forward to the unsupported claims of my racism by retards to further my point.

  206. TRAMO says: Oct 9, 2009 10:39 PM

    All i can say is you boys better stay in your filthy inner cities like philly,detroit,ny etc etc,cause you wouldnt last long in middle tennessee.

  207. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 9, 2009 10:48 PM

    Daayyuuum! Broke 200 comments is this a new record?
    Politics and religion always get people fired up. Two things people would rather fight to the death over than actually listen to an opposing point of view.
    Think you might have found a new niche, look out Olbermann.
    Should try: “Favre and Vick elope to Mass. for wedding! Limbaugh is outraged!”
    Just leave the article blank after that. Comments will be entertaining enough.

  208. SlaveToBankers says: Oct 9, 2009 11:18 PM

    It’s obvious that the owners’ vote to approve or disapprove of Lush’s bid will have NOTHING to do with his politics, but rather with the man himself, his past actions, and his own words. What could POSSIBLY be more fair than that? Sure, it’s an ironic twist that the “demander of accountability” now be held accountable for his own actions, but that’s the sort of occurrence that makes each new day unpredictable and enjoyable.
    The problem is that Lush KNOWS that he will not be approved because of his checkered past, including drug addictions, admitted law-breaking and of course his numerous hateful comments that have probably already alienated a diverse majority of the NFL players base.
    Ultimately, the members of the exclusive Billionaire NFL Owners club will determine Lush’s fate.
    But if (when) he is rejected by a bunch of fellow rich, white dudes, solely in the name of profit, Lush will STILL try to paint himself as the victim of the “Left”, of the “librul media”, or of the “Brotha-in-Chief“, or whatever other imaginary nonsense he can come up with that will fire up the mentally-challenged tea baggers and (should-not-have-been-)birthers who waste away their lives swallowing and regurgitating his poison. That’s how he rolls, see? Anyone with half of a functioning brain can see it. The only ones who can’t are the same fools right here posting their insane, loser, wingnut rants about Obama, or Oprah, or Healthcare, or any other number of subjects that don’t have one damn thing to do with the fact that the owners’ vote alone will approve or disapprove of Lush’s bid!
    I used to think that Lush’s listeners, the so-called “dildoheads” must all have an I.Q. no greater than 65. After reading the uneducated nonsense spouted from them on several of these threads, I am now prepared to lower that estimate down a further 10 or 15 points. Congratulations, you folks are the mental equivalent of poodles, and an embarrassment to humanity.

  209. FinHead says: Oct 9, 2009 11:31 PM

    Kiwanuka says he wouldn’t play for Limbaugh-owned team
    Posted by Mike Florio on October 9, 2009 1:30 PM ET
    The opinions continue to roll in regarding the possibility that radio host Rush Limbaugh will soon own the St. Louis Rams.
    Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka says that he’d never play for a Limbaugh-owned team.
    “All I know is from the last comment I heard, he said in [President] Obama’s America, white kids are getting beat up on the bus while black kids are chanting ‘right on,’” Kiwanuka said, per the New York Daily News. “I mean, I don’t want anything to do with a team that he has any part of. He can do whatever he wants, it is a free country. But if it goes through, I can tell you where I am not going to play.
    “I am not going to draw a conclusion from a person off of one comment, but when it is time after time after time and there’s a consistent pattern of disrespect and just a complete misunderstanding of an entire culture that I am a part of, I can’t respect him as a man,” Kiwanuka added.
    Earlier this week, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb — the player at the center of the controversy that ended Limbaugh’s on-air role at ESPN after roughly a month — made his own views known.
    “If he’s rewarded to buy them, congratulations to him,” McNabb said, per the Daily News. “But I won’t be in St. Louis anytime soon.”
    Jets linebacker Bart Scott echoed the sentiment. “I know I wouldn’t want to play for him. He’s a jerk. . . . What he said [about McNabb] was inappropriate and insensitive, totally off-base. He could offer me whatever he wanted, I wouldn’t play for him. . . . I wouldn’t play for Rush Limbaugh. My principles are greater and I can’t be bought.”
    In our view, Limbaugh is smart enough to know that his interest in buying the Rams would create this kind of reaction. The only remaining questions, in our view, are whether he’ll paint himself as a victim of bias and intolerance if his bid is withdrawn or rejected — and whether he’ll become a modern-day version of George Preston Marshall in reverse if Limbaugh lands the team.
    The late Redskins owner had no black players because he resisted employing them; Limbaugh would potentially have no black players because they would refuse to work for him.
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    FlorioObjection says:
    October 9, 2009 1:37 PM
    “All I know is from the last comment I heard, he said in [President] Obama’s America, white kids are getting beat up on the bus while black kids are chanting ‘right on,’” Kiwanuka said
    THIS HAPPENED…Why is it a problem for Rush to speak his mind about what happened? Kiwanuka wouldnt tackle Vince Young…conspiracy!
    dietrich43 says:
    October 9, 2009 1:38 PM
    As a white person, I wouldn’t want to work for Limbaugh.
    JimmySmith says:
    October 9, 2009 1:38 PM
    Wait, hold the presses, Bart Scott has principles. We are not quite sure what they as of now but we do know that they are in place and wouldn’t allow him to play for Rush.
    STFU, your stupid political grandstanding is only exceeded by your misplaced sentiments.
    BENITO says:
    October 9, 2009 1:39 PM
    Yea right, im too principled to get paid lots of his money! get real!
    chapnasty says:
    October 9, 2009 1:39 PM
    WOW. Florio, you are edging on insanity my friend. That last line about black players playing for him is insanse. I’d probably punch you in the face if I saw you.
    Whats funny is that Rush knows enough about football to know that McNabb sucks and Kiwanuka benefits from having one of the best DE in the game and wouldnt be that good on his own. Other than that they are oviously being fed a bunch of lines because they are ignorant to anything Rush has ever said. In fact the quote that Kiwanuka is referring to was a reference to a school bus beating where a white kid was beaten by several black kids. See what happens when you kow what you are talking about?
    And these guys are fools, they would play for anyone if the money was right.
    Vox’s Mommy says:
    October 9, 2009 1:40 PM
    I think we all saw this coming a while away. I’m white and wouldn’t want to play for that jerk-off.
    birdmancometh says:
    October 9, 2009 1:40 PM
    Good, the more stars that take this stance, the better. Keep that jackass out of the league. If only the Rams had a star player…
    PITTSUCKS says:
    October 9, 2009 1:41 PM
    Oh but if a white player said he wouldn’t play for a black owner, heads would be rolling.
    ☻☼CBS, FOX, ESPN, NFLN nbc says:
    October 9, 2009 1:41 PM
    I LOVE IT!!!
    Babie Hoodie says:
    October 9, 2009 1:42 PM
    Kiwanuka should just Shuthafukupa because no one really cares what he has to say about anything.
    Plus, he is a New York Giant, so what difference does it make to him?
    Kiwanuka means FAT LOSER in some language I’m sure.
    bigtroutak says:
    October 9, 2009 1:42 PM
    Poor baby, want to suck on my thumb? Wow thank God the thought police are out there, I mean how dare someone have an opinion that didn’t come from Obama or MSNBC?
    I don’t even like Limbaugh and I find this disgusting
    DemocratsAreStupid says:
    October 9, 2009 1:43 PM
    I don’t blame these players for not wanting to play for Rush. He’s an idiot that does nothing but pander and create hype.
    LebronJeremy says:
    October 9, 2009 1:43 PM
    Hey, I think Rush is a pontificating, bombastic a-hole, who has been wrong about nearly ever assumption he has made in his entire life. I also think he has a right to buy into the ownership of the Rams; it’s a free country, no?
    But on the same coin, I entirely respect the players’ opposition to playing for a man who is so utterly closed off from the rest of the world that his stereotype of black people is off by 35 years.
    When was the last time you heard anyone say “right on” when they weren’t being facetious?
    Shadenfreuder says:
    October 9, 2009 1:44 PM
    So Rush Limbaugh is rich enough to buy an NFL team? I guess spewing vile and hatred pays. At least the Rams would replace the Patriots as the most hated team in the league. Speaking of the Patriots. This would be interesting to see just how much the Krafts and other Jewish owners in the league value money over morals. As a Pats season ticket holder I will predict that Kraft would vote to allow Hitler to own a franchise if he thought he could make more money from it.
    natentn says:
    October 9, 2009 1:45 PM
    Great job at NBC dutifully reporting this, these guys ought to be more professional about it. Limbaugh has the most popular radio show in America, these guys should listen to the show before they make comments about him. Instead of just taking it from ESPN and others in the media who don’t like him.
    By the way, can we talk football on this site. I’m tired of politics seeping into sports and all other areas of life in this country. Some of us don’t like Republicans or Democrats so can we leave them out.
    frank12341 says:
    October 9, 2009 1:45 PM
    nothing what he said was racist. his comments about mcnabb were/are valid.
    the nfl needs to continue to push black qb’s as legit, instead of the usual ‘athletes’ like mike vick, who is nothing more than a fast black guy who occasionaly throws the ball…
    have there been good black qb’s? sure, but most are the run first, throw if i can remember the playbook types…
    rush was right on and the nfl didnt like it…and now, as usual, the blacks cry racism….
    ———————————————
    Ok, know what your Halloween costume is: it looks like a ghost, but ain’t no ghost!

  210. Kidekk says: Oct 9, 2009 11:33 PM

    “SmackMyVickUp says:
    October 9, 2009 9:10 PM
    Racism is the rallying cry of the ignorant who have been offended and cannot defend themselves any other way.”
    So when I was called the n-bomb by white kids when I was younger, I guess it wasn’t racism. It was just me being ignorant. Stick to mailing feces to organizations.

  211. skf727 says: Oct 9, 2009 11:42 PM

    Hey Mr. Kush,
    Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize because the five guys that decide the matter are ideologically on par with the faculty at Berkeley, Brown, UC Santa Cruz, etc.
    Basically, anyone who badmouths America and whines and bitches about how unjust and unfair we are is a hero.
    obama knows how to run a nation.
    Really?
    9.8% reported unemployment with the “real” rate approaching 16%?
    Teen unemployment around 50%- I wonder if raising the minimum wage had anything to do with that? As usual, the net effect is that this heavy-handedness actually lowered the minimum wage for millions…to zero.
    Or how about a $1.4 TRILLION deficit for one year, triple what last year’s (and Bush’s largest) was?
    Obama could not run a one-car funeral procession but golly he can read off of a teleprompter well.
    You say “God Bless America”. You should keep those thoughts to yourself because the ACLU is feeling awfully froggy these days.

  212. Porno Mike says: Oct 10, 2009 12:45 AM

    Hear that everyone? Bush voter “skf727″ doesn’t think Obama is a very good president! Oh darn. Go finish mowing my lawn, tard.

  213. SpartaChris says: Oct 10, 2009 1:57 AM

    I used to think Robin Hood was a hero. As I grew older and wise, I came to realize he was an enabler.

  214. obscurement says: Oct 10, 2009 2:42 AM

    1.) Water’s wet, I’m white, and Rush is an intelligent douche, who knows how to twist words into rhetoric of hate. His talking about the kids on the bus isn’t a telling of an incident, he’s implying and corelating that because we have a black man as president, “the blacks” will now feel empowered do commit more crimes.
    Besidesd the racist implications, he’s a jackass to point this out as a special case, most kids get into fights and most of the time, a crowd forms cheering them on.
    2.) It’s not that Rush is white & the players are black, it’s that Rush is an racist a-hole and they don’t want to play for him. If a white player said that they didn’t want to play for any black owner, yes that would be racist. If they said they didn’t want to play with a specific black owner b/c they were morally opposed to do so, then no, it would not be racist.
    3.) It’s sad that that this is even in debate, Rush’s racism is so obvious… well hell, I can’t even think of a viable, hyper bolic metaphor that could accurately describe it.
    4.) Bush & the Republican Senate started the bailouts and the trillions of dollars of debt, you can’t blame that on Obama.
    5.) I hate McNaab, (Giants fan here) but what Rush said about him wasn’t racist so much as it was dumb. The media wasn’t desirous for a black QB to be successful, the NFL already has had that. McNaab (at that time) WAS really good. Ask any Packer fan about 4th & 29 or the time he scrambled for what seemed like five minutes and found a WR to throw to on MNF.
    Oh and Babie Hoodie – what Kiwanuka said must be somewhat important because you had to have an obnoxious reply to it. Kiwanuka may me loser in some language, but the ten table SB ring on his finger says otherwise.

  215. Snowman2008 says: Oct 10, 2009 2:46 AM

    This article already has 212 going on 213 comments. By far more than any other topic. Doesn’t that say it all regarding the great racial and political divide that exists in America?
    Kiwanuka is a man of principle. His views can not be understood by narrow minded people. When he says he would not play for a Rush owned team I believe him. And being an open minded person I will happily allow him to express his views.
    Rush fans the flames of hatred in America. He isn’t a good American. I am white and I have witnessed the effects of racism my people have inflicted on those who are not white. And as a good American I choose to distance myself from that group.

  216. se18a29 says: Oct 10, 2009 8:54 AM

    So, there’s a chance there might be a team with talent and no criminal record in the NFL? If so, Rush should buy more of them.

  217. chapnasty says: Oct 10, 2009 9:17 AM

    I’m not reading all 212 comments before I ask this question but, has anyone mentioned that Rush WAS nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize last year?? He finished second to Al Gore.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA morons.
    I love all of this talk. No one can ever agree but they can sure talk a lot. I hate Obama and I hate black guys who go around shooting each other. I also hate white guys who shave their heads and kill black people, jews and other non christians. How about I am a damn HUMAN BEING and I can hate whoever the hell I want to for their actions and it has nothing to do with their race. Noble concept.

  218. jeffz303 says: Oct 10, 2009 10:27 AM

    To Ron in Charlotte,
    How incredibly surprising that someone from Charlotte, North Carolina is a racist (OK, maybe not so surprising). Ron, why don’t you put on your white hood and drive your pickup down to the local racist watering hole and kick back a few with Jethro, Clyde, Clem, and the rest of the boys?

  219. TheWizard says: Oct 10, 2009 10:33 AM

    Racism is a crutch that, in today’s America, you had better learn to walk without.
    Or you’re a self appointed victim.
    And it’s nobody’s fault but your own.

  220. bloodystupidjohnson says: Oct 10, 2009 10:49 AM

    Could you image a white player saying he would not play for a liberal black owner? The main stream press would have a field day with charges of racism.
    However, where is this same main stream press now? Maybe gaging on their white guilt.

  221. Rush Limbaugh says: Oct 10, 2009 10:53 AM

    Tune in weekdays from 12 – 3p Eastern Time live from the Southern Command
    Friday is open line where you pick the topics of the show
    EIB

  222. Abe Froeman says: Oct 10, 2009 12:25 PM

    This is the song that never ends
    Yes, it goes on and on my friend
    Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
    And they’ll continue singing it forever just because

  223. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 10, 2009 12:49 PM

    “All I know is from the last comment I heard, he said in [President] Obama’s America, white kids are getting beat up on the bus while black kids are chanting ‘right on,’” Kiwanuka said, per the New York Daily News.
    ———————
    Limbaugh was race baiting with this comment. (shocker) Plenty of bites apparently.
    What playground fight does not have kids chanting “right on?” 5 on 1 or whatever, have seen worse.
    Proof is with the honor student in Chicago that walked into the middle of a gang fight. What did bystanders do? They videotaped it.

  224. Nick says: Oct 10, 2009 1:23 PM

    I can’t believe some people on here are apologists for Limbaugh. He is a tool of the highest order and is a bad reflection of America on the rest of the world.
    The people (generally not rich folk, which I find funny considering the agenda he pushes does not help the middle class at all) who support him seem to have a distinct lack of intelligence, an inability to think for themselves and/or are closet racists themselves.

  225. Deb says: Oct 10, 2009 2:09 PM

    @se18a29 …
    Why would you assume Rush Limbaugh owning a football team would ensure none of its players have criminal records? Rush has had his own run-ins with the law because of his drug addiction. You can’t be implying that because blacks might refuse to play for him there would be no lawbreakers on his team. You can’t be that ignorant. Do you really think only blacks break the law? 99 percent of serial killers are white. 99 percent of the criminals who’ve been embezzling from pension funds and crippling our banking system have been white.
    Good and evil are colorblind qualities. All colors will be equally represented in heaven–and hell.
    @chapnasty …
    Yes, you’re free to hate whomever you choose. What a sad way to exercise freedom.

  226. obscurement says: Oct 10, 2009 5:23 PM

    “se18a29 says:
    October 10, 2009 8:54 AM
    So, there’s a chance there might be a team with talent and no criminal record in the NFL? If so, Rush should buy more of them.”
    No criminal record? Leonard Little killed two people in two seperate drunk driving accidents!
    Oh and I don’t think anyone’s moved out of the city for the challenge of living in Nowheresville, TN. That’s because their IS NONE. It’s a lot harder making it in the big scary ocean then the little fishbowl that you live in, pal.

  227. TheWizard says: Oct 11, 2009 7:33 AM

    which I find funny considering the agenda he pushes does not help the middle class at all)
    Never listened to even one of his shows, have you?
    Lack of intelligence, indeed.

  228. chapnasty says: Oct 11, 2009 9:37 AM

    @Deb
    I have a lot of freedoms, that is whats great about this country, for now anyways. You are missing the point, the point is that it shouldn’t matter what the color of someone’s skin is. Just because I dont like a person who may be black it does not automatically make me a racist, which is the impiclation that a lot of these idiots are making. The problem with blogs is that cowards get to hide behind a funny screen name and their computer and say whatever they feel because there is no consequence. The problem with that is we get to see just how stupid people are. And to see white people or black people talk all this race crap makes me embarassed. Not as a white male, but as a human being. To think that other people can be as dumb as half the crap on here is just mind boggling.
    ok thats my rant for the day…

  229. Deb says: Oct 11, 2009 4:45 PM

    chapnasty says …
    And to see white people or black people talk all this race crap makes me embarassed. Not as a white male, but as a human being. To think that other people can be as dumb as half the crap on here is just mind boggling.
    ___________________
    I see your point. Guess that’s why I jumped when you repeated the word “hate.” My mind is just so boggled with all the garbage people are spewing. And I share your embarassment. Wish he wanted to buy a hockey team instead. Football is usually my escape from the deep, dark issues of the world.

  230. Hugh says: Oct 11, 2009 5:12 PM

    Well, I know I’m not racist.
    I hate all of you equally for having to read over 200 of your politically opinioned posts on a football website.
    The fact that all of you think you can change someone’s political or racist views by a few comments you left on a football website is truely funny and pathetic.
    Think about it.

  231. JuicyMelon says: Oct 11, 2009 8:18 PM

    Could Rush own a team? Yeah. His personal opinions and views on the country wouldn’t persuade me not to play a game I love. The NFL does not lack players. The Rams would have a full team who is just like any other team…
    Basically, this is a non-story.

  232. chapnasty says: Oct 12, 2009 8:28 AM

    @ Hugh
    While you may hate me, I appreciate you for taking the time to read my opinions and those who oppose and support my opinons. You are the reason why we wrote them. Thanks again!

  233. Tom says: Oct 12, 2009 5:57 PM

    I hope he becomes an owner and I will become a Rams fan. I also want a national white history month. I also believe some of us should call ourselves European-Americans. Maybe we should organize a NAAWP.

  234. lvass76 says: Oct 13, 2009 9:14 AM

    Maybe Kiwi would be more comfortable playing for Rev. Wright, B.O.’s spiritual advisor, who said that AIDS was invented by white people, in order to kill black people. Rev. “Wrong” also is openly anti-Semitic ala Louis Farakhan. Gee, if Obama were commish, instead of Goodell, and applied his economic and tax philosophy to the NFL, Kiwi might have his Lombardi taken away and given to Detriot. Pittsburgh, who is way too wealthy in this example, might have some of their Lombardi’s taken away and one given to Cleveland and maybe one to KC and so on and so on. These players are showing they’re not too bright.

  235. PayDoh says: Oct 13, 2009 6:20 PM

    I love how these athletes jump up quickly to say they won’t play for someone, but you neer hear them speaking about the problems in their own community. When whitey is involved they have no problem, but don’t have the nerve to EVER condemn their own. 95% of black people dont even know the issues, they just know what their other moron friends tell them or what al shaprton says.

  236. dgfla says: Oct 14, 2009 10:35 AM

    I am so sick of the grandstanding these pro athletes are doing for so called racial discrimination…I would be willing to bet that if whites had a WET television program as opposed to a BET channel, they’d be all over racial discrimination!! Reverse some of the claims their making and see how much they are being pampered…get a life, get an education and if you don’t like the money you get paid to play a game then get a JOB!!! This is America, Capitalism made this country and is here to stay, like it or not.

  237. DonTerrelli says: Oct 14, 2009 11:45 AM

    Nobody really cares about what players’ political stands are. It’s like celebrities; you get paid to act, why should someone believe you. In the players’ case, they are paid to play football, not give political assessments.
    /thumbsdown

  238. celmo says: Oct 14, 2009 1:49 PM

    According to some of these comments, Black in the NFL, don’t have enough intelligence to know whether someone is insulting to them and are so stupid, they would play for anyone who flash a big contract in front of them…To say and believe this is to reflect a frontier mentality. Haven’t some of you advanced beyond your the stero typing of the old days? No wonder Limbaugh has so many listners to his radio program. He makes people who have racial hang-ups feel good about themselves, and obviously a large percentage of them are responding to this subject….Come hell or high water——good will prevail over evil—-and you are unable to do a damn thing about it. Reminder,
    the year is 2009 and not 1949. You may as well accept this reality. America is moving forward, so stop bitching and open your mind.

  239. cwilliams2 says: Oct 14, 2009 4:03 PM

    WOW! Whomever thinks this Rush guy is not dangerous to this Nation just needs to take a look at what He started right here on this form, and then take hard look in the mirror, You guys are letting ONE Man bring your true colors out and he’s Loving it! Loving it! Loving it!
    This is exactly how he started all the controversy over Obama. Just listen to yourselves.
    The same guys who would throw the ball to each other in the park while the kids played on the swings, not looking at nothing but the Ball. The same guys who would sit down and have a beer together at the local Sports Bar while watching a the game and not even see COLOR except for the color of the PLAYERS JERSEYS and not give a s..t about how much they were getting paid as long as your team won so you can get paid for betting on them. Hm…I can see it coming though… sitting on separate sides at Sports Bars, Bar fights. Oh its going to happen because this is exactly how these things escalate. And this is exactly what Rush wants. Think about it Right Here on this form as we type its happening, you all should be proud, this is history in the making and you are making it! Here lets go back to Elementary School children, remember the stupid little fights that turned into I’m going to kick your ass after school-with my big brother and his friends, because some stupid little kid said that another kid said something about them, (I wonder if any of you were that stupid little kid). Well here we go again guys only this time Guns will be drawn because these days nobody fights anymore. Stay with me here; remember how those fights really got started? 99.8% of the time was started by started by one COWORDLY AGITOR (somebody who attempts to arouse feeling about something, especially a political cause) lingering in the crowd.
    And you call this moving forward? I don’t think so. You guys are playing right into Rush’s hands and I’m hope your proud, just think you will be able to tell your kids how you help bring back the good old days! How fun!!
    Now a little about myself; Oh the memories, First of all I’m just your average Joe, As a kid growing up in the 60s in a city which I wont mention I saw fights in the streets so bad that the national guard had to be called in to break them up. I watch military tanks drive up and down the main streets of my city where I was hiding in bushes so I would not be seen and told to go home. You heard me right MILITARY TANKS in the good old US OF A. I would ask my Dad what’s going on and he what he would tell me would hold true wherever I saw a fight going on. He would say SOMBODY (the AGITOR) accused SOMBODY else (usually race was involved) of saying or doing something about them. And I would think wow how cool is that! this is how we solve are differences. So me and my brothers would fight each other when one of us had issues with the other. Now of course back in those days we got are butts whipped for fighting but when I would ask my dad why did he punish us I thought this is the way people handle there differences, he would say you don’t fight your brothers, you talk it out until its resolved. Then I started to attended church and found out we all are brothers because of our internal make up, God just made us in different colors so we wouldn’t be so boring to look at, just like man makes cars, they all have the same internal make up they just come in different shapes and colors.
    And with that I’m going to sit back clean my gun and watch you children play The Lets Go Back In Time game with Mr. Limbaugh so when it comes in my backyard this time Ill be ready.
    Oh I forgot, don’t forget to explain you true fillings about race to your children that will make the game a little more interesting, because there the ones that have those young minds and are easily fooled by propaganda like this and will be the first ones to jump over my fence, that’s when the real fun starts, this no longer the 60s
    Have fun Ill be waiting
    clwms

  240. coaltrain says: Oct 14, 2009 4:12 PM

    @celmo
    celmo= slang for cellmate.

  241. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 10:37 PM

    That was a great post C. Williams.
    I find it very disheartening how some many in our population can’t see what you see.

  242. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 14, 2009 11:27 PM

    As I look at the names that commented on this post, I realize that half of you guys never posted anything on this site. And onces this story ends will never post again. Best post goes to cwilliams, Your comments are true and real. Hopefully we can put aside our differences and go back to rooting against each other on sunday only.

  243. paranoidandroid says: Oct 15, 2009 4:20 PM

    are you kiddin me? he’d play for the highest bidder when his contract year is up so this is total BS. players should just play, no one cares about their political views. geez

  244. paranoidandroid says: Oct 15, 2009 4:31 PM

    frank12341 says:
    October 9, 2009 1:45 PM
    nothing what he said was racist. his comments about mcnabb were/are valid.
    the nfl needs to continue to push black qb’s as legit, instead of the usual ‘athletes’ like mike vick, who is nothing more than a fast black guy who occasionaly throws the ball…
    have there been good black qb’s? sure, but most are the run first, throw if i can remember the playbook types…
    rush was right on and the nfl didnt like it…and now, as usual, the blacks cry racism….
    ——-
    i could not agree more.

  245. paranoidandroid says: Oct 15, 2009 4:47 PM

    pray4thebills says:
    October 9, 2009 2:07 PM
    No worries- Rush won’t want the team anymore once he realizes that nowadays he has to pay black people to work for him.
    So a few black kids probably did beat up a white kid. The problem with this is that Rush guides his stupid listeners to actually believe that Obama being President caused this to happen, and most likely that Obama would encourange such behavior. THATS why he’s a bad person. Not because he lies, but because he spins trivial stories such as this as being caused by society empowering minorities, which is completely false.

  246. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 15, 2009 5:08 PM

    Future headline:
    Limbaugh says he wouldn’t own for Kiwanuka-played team

  247. helewa says: Oct 16, 2009 4:54 AM

    You do have a “White Entertainment Television”…its called “Fox News”.

  248. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 21, 2009 9:29 AM

    I thought it was called “NFL Network”.

  249. ballhawk1 says: Oct 23, 2009 9:42 AM

    Why do people have such a hard understanding that Limbaugh’s comments of McNabb were about what the media wanted to do anointing him! Any nitwit who cant see that is looking for a reason to play a race card to make a stink so someone will find them relevant. This country is such a mess……say whatever you want, just not about…Latinos, hispanics, blacks, or Muslims and you will be ok…I am not sure why ALL HUMANS can not be open to criticism! It is always nice when they lump in racists they speak of “WHITES” like there are no Racist blacks, chinese, japanese, or whoever…..

  250. hotchick says: Oct 23, 2009 9:03 PM

    Did we get a write up about Merriman stating he WOULD play for Limbaugh???

  251. 44-6-andthenRomofainted says: Oct 25, 2009 5:37 PM

    All of the top ten states in adults with a college degree are blue states. All of the bottom ten states in adult literacy are red states. Coincidence?

  252. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 26, 2009 3:06 PM

    44-6-andthenRomofainted says:
    October 25, 2009 5:37 PM
    All of the top ten states in adults with a college degree are blue states. All of the bottom ten states in adult literacy are red states. Coincidence?
    —————————
    Sounds like me what we got here is one of them whaddyacallem.. State racists. Whysitall gots to matter whichn color the state be?

  253. Sportnman says: Oct 26, 2009 5:54 PM

    I am amazed (even though this blog is old) this I KEEP hearing, these guys would play for anyone with money! Really???But they have stated they won’t and would not presently. But all you accussers have is YOUR opinion. These are the ACTUAL people saying they would not. Oh I am sorry, you are more familiar with their thoughts than they are….WOW, please tell me you actually do not believe that????????

  254. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM

    Devils Advocate says:
    October 9, 2009 4:27 PM
    i just wanted to wait until the end so I could tell most of you a$$holes how friggin retarded you are
    ————————–
    Good job waiting until the end. Hey, what’s that Fart/Favre countdown at now? I really miss it.

  255. mike says: Nov 2, 2009 10:57 AM

    NFL JerseysAfter trading punts again, the Steelers got the ball on their own nine, with 1:39 to play in the half. And the Minnesota defense played like it was the fourth quarter, allowing the Steelers to move down the field and score a touchdown that game them a 10-7 lead at the half.

  256. mike says: Nov 3, 2009 12:04 AM

    The same guys who would throw the ball to each other in the park while the kids played on the swings, not looking at nothing but the Ball. The same guys who would sit down and have a beer together at the local Sports Bar while watching a the game and not even see COLOR except for the color of the PLAYERS JERSEYS and not give a s..t about how much they were getting paid as long as your team won so you can get paid for betting on them. I hope he becomes an owner and I will become a Roma”>http://www.sell-nfl.com”>Roma fan. I also want a national white history month. No matter your politics, Rush Limbaugh has done a great job in this country of broadcasting hate, intolerance and racism for the better part of two decades. It is no surprise there are high-profile NFL players taking this hard-edged stance against Mr.”>http://www.sell-nfl.com”>Mr. Limbaugh.

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