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Checketts confirms that Limbaugh dropped from ownership bid

It didn’t take long for the ownership group hoping to buy the Rams to confirm a report that Rush Limbaugh is no longer part of their team.

In a statement released Wednesday evening to the Associated Press, the group’s leader, St. Louis Blues chairman Dave Checketts, said that Limbaugh’s participation had become a complication in the group’s efforts and
the bid will move forward without him.

Limbaugh was to be a limited partner and it’s unclear how significant his financial stake in the group was going to be.

What was clear was the NFL’s stance on the issue, as enumerated by Commissioner Roger Goodell.

And it didn’t take long for Checketts to hear that message and decisively act.

As we hear from players all the time right around when free agency approaches: It’s a business.

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  1. novanative says: Oct 14, 2009 6:50 PM

    Good. Back to the cave ye came from.

  2. MH says: Oct 14, 2009 6:51 PM

    NOW, will you please shut the hell up with this topic?!

  3. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 6:51 PM

    Better get the ditto heads a rattle, they’re gonna cry over this one. Maybe even a woobie is in order.
    Unless they make a team for Limbaugh to own, give him all the best players, and let them play Detroit every week with unlimited downs…the NFL is a Nazi Socialist Czarist bunch of Liberals who hate America and the troops!
    Your Limbaugh listener is the type of guy who plays Madden on the easiest level, creates themselves in the game with all “99’s”.

  4. ballhawk1 says: Oct 14, 2009 6:52 PM

    I wonder what will happen or if Limbaugh will ever pursue a defamation lawsuit? The erroneous published quotes, negative publicity from Sharpton obviously hurt this business venture. NOW if the quotes are proven to be true then he got what he deserves. I am a person who likes proof…NOT HEAR SAY FROM A WIKI SITE!!!!

  5. chapnasty says: Oct 14, 2009 6:59 PM

    Congrat liberal idiots you have succeeded yet again in not allowing the American Dream to succeed. Tomorrow morning I will wake up to see that Obama takes military adive from Joe Biden instead of Military Commanders, health care will be run by the people who ran the post office into bankruptcy and the dollar will be flushed down the toilet and we are run by China. The liberal agenda will fail us all. It is truly a sad, sad day as racist leftists win the day. This will be my last post until tomorrow. Laugh as you might, but you will regret it. America is no longer equal.
    I fully expect Rush to bid on his own.

  6. leatherneck_69 says: Oct 14, 2009 6:59 PM

    You must be beaming with joy, Florio. You spread lies and slander about someone because you don’t like their politics.
    And if you actually listen to the statement by Goodell, he was responding to a question about Limbaugh’s comments regarding McNabb. Nothing else. But, you’re so smart that it was crystal clear.

  7. slipkid says: Oct 14, 2009 6:59 PM

    but when did limbaugh kill those dogs?

  8. nyJag says: Oct 14, 2009 6:59 PM

    One small step for the LA rams
    One giant leap for what’s wrong with this country
    I gotta say as a Jags fan. I will sleep a just a little easier. As an American I’d love to throw a Toyota through a wall.

  9. Phokus says: Oct 14, 2009 7:01 PM

    MMMMMMmmmmmmMmmmmmmmm republican tears still flowing? TASTES SO GOOD

  10. JoeSixPack says: Oct 14, 2009 7:01 PM

    Well as long as the same standard is applied to liberals or anyone with strong political views, I’m comfortable with this.
    I’d hate to think that liberals were hypocrits.

  11. smalfish says: Oct 14, 2009 7:02 PM

    This was a smart move on the guy’s part. WHy let a pimple fester into a mole? And make no mistake, Limbow would have been more than a mole on the ass of the NFL.
    I’m glad this is over. Now the good hater can get his ratings to skyrocket on the hurt and bleeding he’s feeling.

  12. Snowman2008 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:04 PM

    Good guys finally win one. Even as a limited partner he doesn’t deserve ownership of a team comprised of the type of races he ridicules daily on national airwaves.
    Now if we can only find a way to keep his mouth “limited.”

  13. bucco bruce says: Oct 14, 2009 7:08 PM

    Good news for Limbaugh, he found out early what kind of a business partner Checketts would have been. Dave bails at the first sign of adversity? The Blues suck and the Rams suck, you deserve to own it all Dave.

  14. Delaware78 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:10 PM

    So when can I expect this site stop pretending to be the Daily Kos & get back to football?

  15. Ocelot138 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:12 PM

    Ahhh, the sound of conservatives crying like victims…
    It almost sounds like that day a year ago in November, when the walking mummy and the bimbo they were trying to force into the White House failed miserably.
    Hahahahahahaha! Go back to AM radio, buffoons. Score one for the good guys.

  16. marshall70 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:12 PM

    This is great that Rush was brought in as a possible owner, then pushed away. I really am liking that all this happened. To celebrate I’m going to go watch the Rush Limbaugh bit Bill Hicks did many years ago.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRoJkQ71qBM

  17. slipkid says: Oct 14, 2009 7:13 PM

    looks like the real haters rang in and got in the way of keeping the rams in st. loo.
    white folks arent allowed to say anything. so much for the first amendment!
    that means blacks and other assorted useful idiots are the real haters, to use a word i dont like to use.
    all interracial crime is black on white. (all the dogfighters i know of are black too.)
    that isnt because black people love white people.

  18. nittanylion0 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:13 PM

    This story is so nothing. Let’s move on. Politics and sport just don’t mix… someone asked me the other day if I knew what political direction the owners of my beloved Giants leaned. I told them I don’t know, and the fact that I don’t know means that the owners are good businessmen. No need to wear your heart on your sleeve and potentially alienate 50% of your fan base.
    Look at what happened to the guy who owns the Philadelphia Flyers when they invited Sarah Palin to drop the puck at a game last year… the backlash swung back so hard, I don’t think the guy’s opened his mouth in almost a year.

  19. yoyo says: Oct 14, 2009 7:14 PM

    The uninformed truely amaze me. People that have never listened to him know what he says. The Obamaites care about nothing but hate mongering. We stand by and watch the America we once knew sink slowly down the drain.

  20. smalfish says: Oct 14, 2009 7:14 PM

    Tomorrow morning I will wake up to see that Obama takes military adive from Joe Biden instead of Military Commanders, health care will be run by the people who ran the post office into bankruptcy and the dollar will be flushed down the toilet and we are run by China.
    All because Rush Limbow couldn’t get what he wanted.
    Typical.

  21. Tomb says: Oct 14, 2009 7:16 PM

    It’s funny, when did “liberal” replace democrat?
    Couldn’t possibly be part of the Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck smear campaign, right?
    Good riddance to bad rubbish. Keep that disgusting blowhard infection out of football. Look what he does to this website alone.
    Limbaugh involved with the NFL is like herpes on a vagina. Just ruins a good thing, and tends to spread.

  22. mad555 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:17 PM

    Are you people serious with this, “Oh, Why is everyone bashing his political view?” This has nothing to do with Limpdicbaugh’s politics and everything to do with how Limpdicbaugh views black people. He has no clue how black people are treated in white America. He is as blind as a bat if he doesn’t think what he has said about minorities in this country is wrong in any way! Does he even recognize how African Americans have been discriminated throughout American History? I mean seriously! He probably thinks that there was always equality for Blacks since they were released from slavery and they are to blame if they are unable to prosper in White America.
    Between, “agreeing”/saying with the Donovan comment and saying that the NFL is like Bloods & Crypts without the weapons, should tell you all you need to know about his ideology about how he views everyone not white and how America should be run. Would you really be that shocked if you found out that Limpdicbaugh actually said what he is accused of saying? I didn’t think so. The way he speaks about minorities is like what the US is doing to the middle east. The US is telling the middle east how they should live their lives, (which is not working), and Limpdicky is saying to minorities, “this is how you should live your life because it will be good for you. If you Don’t act like you’re being discriminated, then you won’t be discriminated. I mean, If I don’t see it, it must not exist.
    Really?!?
    Anyone agreeing with that thought process is truly ignorant to what is happening outside their home.
    Pathetic!

  23. gohawks says: Oct 14, 2009 7:18 PM

    funny to hear people say it’s because of his conservative views. It’s ok to have views. But c’mon, he’s the head of the GOP! ;-) That’s a little different than just having views.

  24. slo@act says: Oct 14, 2009 7:21 PM

    It’s a sad day when somebody’s political views and practice of free speech disqualifies them from being a business owner. NFL today… what business next? This has set a dangerous precedent for all others (on the right or left) to discriminate due to differences of belief

  25. FloriosHairHat says: Oct 14, 2009 7:22 PM

    # MH says: October 14, 2009 6:51 PM
    “NOW, will you please shut the hell up with this topic?!”
    Doubtful. I can’t believe I’m even saying this, but at this point it would be nice to see another Favre story [gag].

  26. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 7:23 PM

    ballhawk1
    You’ll know if the quotes are true or not.
    If they were lies, he’ll sue.
    If he does not sue, the quotes were likely true.
    That simple, Rush is no idiot. God knows he has the cash to hire a team of lawyers to get it done.
    The hard thing for such cases in the US is you have to prove that there was an intent to hurt / injure. That’s not easy, even in clear cut cases.

  27. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 7:23 PM

    It’s a real shame that the Thugs R Us now rule. And as proof, I challenge anyone to say they heard Limbaugh say anything racist, what it was and when. Fact is, it can’t be done. On the other hand Jesse “Hymietown” Jackson is a racist, and he won. Too bad for the blacks of America. Only when blacks stand up against racism, will it end. Sharpton won’t because that’s how he makes his money.

  28. FoozieGrooler says: Oct 14, 2009 7:24 PM

    Meanwhile, right-tards everywhere are already preparing to board Limbaugh’s “I’m the victim here” Express. Then they’ll all blame it on “those damn pinko-commie tree-hugging, fag-hippie socialist liberals”.
    Maybe next time they should back someone with more moderate views, like David Duke.

  29. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 7:25 PM

    Chapnasty….
    …professional victim!

  30. tufar says: Oct 14, 2009 7:25 PM

    Divided we fall.

  31. blueridge624 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:26 PM

    Hey Snowman2008, if you can point to a single instance of Limbaugh ever ridiculing any race on his show you will have accomplished something. Somehow, it doesn’t surprise me that you would like to silence Limbaugh.

  32. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Oct 14, 2009 7:26 PM

    “Even as a limited partner he doesn’t deserve ownership of a team comprised of the type of races he ridicules daily on national airwaves.”
    Yeah, it’s not he was the President’s personal spiritual advisor and ranted every day about how evil a certain race was.
    I mean, we would say that someone who actually sat in the same church might actually share some of those views!
    But let’s forget The Reverend Jerry Wright, Dr, because Brack never really heard those evil words.
    Rush ridicules no race, only in your deranged mind he does.

  33. Browns_fan_in_therapy says: Oct 14, 2009 7:29 PM

    Rush’s listening audience just went from 21 million people (which no other program comes close to) to around 25 million because of this bid.
    I can’t stand his arrogance, but he’s a brilliant business mind and promoter. Time for another $400 million contract…

  34. ballhawk1 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:29 PM

    TOMB: You are a MORON!!! The leading Dems call themselves Liberals…Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, Boxer, Kerry….and so on!!!

  35. Tundrastruck says: Oct 14, 2009 7:34 PM

    I like how anybody that disagrees with the koolaid-swigging lemmings on the left is labeled as racist or intolerant….but if you are on the left and you disagree with the right, you are expressing your first amendment right. This is the number one reason this country is going in the crapper and assholes like you are the driving force. Thanks for being so effing stupid.

  36. Tomb says: Oct 14, 2009 7:36 PM

    Amazing.
    Rush says that in Obama’s America it’s ok for black kids to beat a white kid, and you don’t see the racism there?
    On the flip side, in Bush’s America it’s ok for hurricanes to attack New Orleans?
    Yeah.
    Rush is the modern day Goebbels.

  37. Pauly1620 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:36 PM

    # gohawks says:
    funny to hear people say it’s because of his conservative views. It’s ok to have views. But c’mon, he’s the head of the GOP! ;-) That’s a little different than just having views.

    Really? Explain to me how if Limbaugh is the head of the GOP that McCain would win the nomination?! This is the political equivalent of dividing by zero.
    So I guess it’s ok to have ignorant views so long as you use cute smileys. Explains why Olbermann is allowed on FNIA/SNF.

  38. tian says: Oct 14, 2009 7:36 PM

    Rush knew going in that eventually he would get dropped. Media Matters have an entire website dedicated to storing audio of his racist and other incendiary attacks on all people who doesn’t have this pre-Civil Rights view of America. So he knew that the NFL would reject him.
    See, it was all for his audience. He wanted something else to keep playing the white-male victim. Now he can go on radio and tell his audience that this is, once again why the world is turning against “us.” And how they are losing control of America. And how the media elite is after him for telling them the “truth.” And he’s going to milk this for a long, long time.
    Check and mate.

  39. Bwa Ha Ha says: Oct 14, 2009 7:38 PM

    The NFL is a franchise business, just like McDonalds is a franchise business. Anyone that the franchisor decides is unfit to represent the parent business is simply NOT QUALIFIED to become a franchisee. This is America, what don’t you rabies infected conservatives understand about that?

  40. Bob S. says: Oct 14, 2009 7:44 PM

    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/10418/hmmm-far-left-financier-former-nazi-george-soros-part-of-limbaugh-nfl-bid-group/
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=asN0f.aMUzQY

  41. Zaggs says: Oct 14, 2009 7:44 PM

    Just goes to show ya, slander will get you everywhere. Hell it will even get you the presidency (unless someone can show where McCain ever made fun of Obama’s name or skin color like Obama kept charging).
    I find it so interesting people will go against Limbaugh based on quotes they have no knowledge of. They cannot say when he said them nor provide audio to back up their assertions.

  42. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 7:44 PM

    Dr Hollywood,
    Do you really believe that Al Sharpton would be approved to buy a team?
    Time’s yours.

  43. Tomb says: Oct 14, 2009 7:47 PM

    “ballhawk1 says:
    October 14, 2009 7:29 PM
    TOMB: You are a MORON!!!”
    Nuh uh. I’m not the stupid moron, you’re the stupid moron.
    Love the edgy debates.

  44. Sportspanty says: Oct 14, 2009 7:48 PM

    Wiki publishes rumors.
    MSNBC uses rumors as investigative journalism.
    Rumors destroy the American Dream.
    Mission accomplished.

  45. chapnasty says: Oct 14, 2009 7:50 PM

    @ mad555
    I am sorry it is so hard to be black. Affirmative action, NAACP, the Rooney rule that allows a black man to get an interview regardless of his qualifications, special scholarships for college based off of the color of your skin etc. Tell me again why there is a Race box when someone applies for a job or even applies for college? I dont see what the hell the colors of ones skin has to do with their qualifications to have a job or qualifications for further education. What ever happened to being equal? Judging a man by the content of his charecter and not the color of his skin? huh? Black people think they have it so bad. Put a white man against a black man for anything with equal qualifications and the black man wins because of the color of his skin. Tell me, oh intelligent one, how is that fair or equal? It is time for people like you to stop using the color of your skin as a crutch and live to your abilities as a human being. You are the problem. You dont see white’s equal to you, you think we owe you something. No one in this country owes anyone a damn thing. WE ARE ALL EQUAL. Or at least we should be. I do not see you as black, I am bigger than that. You are a man, same as me and deserve the same treatment as I. ( I will await comments on how I am being racist here, truth is we all are thinking it, I just have the balls to say it)
    @ Snowman, Mooch, Floozie
    Myself and several others have proved people like you wrong over and over and over. You have no facts yet you still keep talking. Get over it. Idiocy does not get replaced by opinions.
    This is a larger much larger than Rush Limbaugh. The problem is the libs/dems on this website arent smart enough to see it. This is about a single group of people with a similar political point of view being able to control business decisions. This is a small snowball at the top of a very steep hill.

  46. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 7:50 PM

    On Limbaugh’s show tomorrow…
    1) The NFL will be called a socialist organization
    2) Roger Godell will be compared to Hitler
    3) The media will be accused of slander, although no suit will be filed
    4) It’ll be inferred that Dave Checketts is gay
    5) Faux boycotts will be initiaited
    6) More America hating from the right, who cheer daily for its collapse so they can get Palin elected
    7) Rush will use this as an excuse to carry the cross up the hill one more time
    8) Blame laid at the door of “the masses” (code for black people) and “coastal elites (code for Jews)
    If America is “done” because Rush isn’t viewed by a sporting league as a good potential owner, then you obviously view America as weak and pathetic. I, on the other hand, think the Republic is stronger than that. We’ll be just fine. Christ, we even survived the demise of the USFL. We can get past this.
    This is why no one will admit to being a Republican anymore.

  47. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 7:51 PM

    Now Rush can show damages. Let the law suits fly!
    I hope he spends every penny he won’t be spending on buying the Rams to sue the people who slander him with those made up quotes.

  48. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 7:52 PM

    Mooch says: October 14, 2009 6:51 PM
    Unlike children like you, the average Rush listener is too busy making a living to play video games. Maybe some day when you grow up you’ll understand that.

  49. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 7:54 PM

    chapnasty,
    these simpletons deserve everything that you and I know is coming. Unfortunately they are going to drag us down with them.

  50. JackBurton says: Oct 14, 2009 7:55 PM

    LMAO .. couldn’t have happened to a nicer racist !!!

  51. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 7:55 PM

    Bwa..
    …because none of then understand business, or what a “brand” is.
    I am a Reagan conservative. These people are not ‘conservatives’, they are Theocratic Imperialists who want big, authoratarian government.
    If Reagan came back, they’d smear him as a ‘liberal’.

  52. Olbermanisadouche says: Oct 14, 2009 7:55 PM

    Not that is comes as a surprise or anything…but man, you leftists are all so spiteful and full of hate that it turns my stomach. Ugh…

  53. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 7:56 PM

    # leatherneck_69 says: October 14, 2009 6:59 PM
    You must be beaming with joy, Florio. You spread lies and slander about someone because you don’t like their politics.
    And if you actually listen to the statement by Goodell, he was responding to a question about Limbaugh’s comments regarding McNabb. Nothing else. But, you’re so smart that it was crystal clear.
    ****
    Let’s hope Rush uses that money to cast a wide net. He has the courage and resources to fight back and I for one hope he does.

  54. tpm58 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:56 PM

    I’m neither far right or far left. Somewhere in between to be exact, so why does it seem like when these so call conservatives get frustrated that they start throwing the word “liberal” around like a sword. Personally, I’d like to lock Limbaugh and Bill Maher in a room together and do the thunderdome thing – two men enter/one man leave type thing. This country does not need these self righteous people. You can call Reverend Wright or Rush Limbaugh a rose, but they both smell more like what you fertilize that rose with. Now, let’s get back to football!!!!!

  55. Winston Wolfe says: Oct 14, 2009 7:57 PM

    Would Jessie “Hymietown” Jackson or Ted “Chappaquiddick” Kennedy have been equally slime balled if they had tried to buy a NFL Franchise? Don’t think so.
    The real name calling racist won out on this one.
    The Wolfe confirms that PFT has been dropped from the favorites list.
    Pardon the interruption…now back to the Crips vs the Bloods.

  56. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 7:58 PM

    # smalfish says: October 14, 2009 7:02 PM
    This was a smart move on the guy’s part. WHy let a pimple fester into a mole? And make no mistake, Limbow would have been more than a mole on the ass of the NFL.
    I’m glad this is over. Now the good hater can get his ratings to skyrocket on the hurt and bleeding he’s feeling.
    ***
    It’s never a smart move to surrender to lies and Leftist slander. Never. Because that just emboldens them and pretty soon you won’t be able to distinguish America from Venezuela.

  57. Ocelot138 says: Oct 14, 2009 7:59 PM

    K. Olbermann, J. Jackson, A. Sharpton and Rev. Wright all have one thing in common that Rush doesn’t…
    THEY NEVER TRIED TO BUY AN NFL TEAM.
    They aren’t allowed to be racist in modern society, if they are (and some of the aforementioned black gentlemen have said racist things, yes).
    But just because they said things that were racist doesn’t apply here.
    Typical conservative crybaby whining. “Someone else was racist before, so that makes it okay that Rush is!”

  58. StrengthOfFates says: Oct 14, 2009 7:59 PM

    I think it’s hilarious how tightly you are all stuck to the teets of your respective parties. Who, by the way, are made up of a bunch of crooks. You do things like fabricating vile quotes and attributing them to anyone you oppose. You fall at the feet of shit-stirrers like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Keith Olberman, and people who consistently feed you lies and half-truths like Michael Moore. You’re all retarded, and I hate you.

  59. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 8:00 PM

    Well, it’s good to see, so far, that everyone agrees that that Limbaugh is not a racist. See, prior post about proof. So far, none. Not surprising. Maybe if all the conservatives got together and fired all liberals and refused to do business with them, things might straighten out. Certainly there is no one here who would or could complain.

  60. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 8:04 PM

    # Bwa Ha Ha says: October 14, 2009 7:38 PM
    The NFL is a franchise business, just like McDonalds is a franchise business. Anyone that the franchisor decides is unfit to represent the parent business is simply NOT QUALIFIED to become a franchisee. This is America, what don’t you rabies infected conservatives understand about that?
    ***
    Boy that’s rich. A Leftard arguing for freedom of association. Wait while I stop laughing!
    Okay, woo..got my breath back! This isn’t about the NFL’s right to deny any bid. This is about the tactics and lies that were used to slander one person in an effort to influence that decision. Got it now brainiac?

  61. chapnasty says: Oct 14, 2009 8:08 PM

    @ bwa Ha Ha
    Yes you are right, but it also has to follow discrimination laws. The NFL hasn’t and has clearly discriminated against Limbaugh for his political beliefs. Expect several law suits.

  62. Bob S. says: Oct 14, 2009 8:11 PM

    Far left-wing billionaire financier and admitted former World War 2 Nazi collaborator George Soros is part of that same Checketts group as Rush Limbaugh that is bidding for the St. Louis Rams. Where’s the outrage against him by the media?
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=asN0f.aMUzQY
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/10418/hmmm-far-left-financier-former-nazi-george-soros-part-of-limbaugh-nfl-bid-group/
    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/10/hixon-ok-with-backup-role.html#ixzz0TyE4JrSd

  63. stefanovich says: Oct 14, 2009 8:11 PM

    It’s hot news among those who know that Limbaugh’s failure to gain ownership of the Rams is directly related to a furtive plot by traitorous liberals to take over the NFL. An NFL, it has been said, that is currently controlled by Jews, and possibly aliens.

  64. george says: Oct 14, 2009 8:17 PM

    This is the law of karma at its best. For you repugs and rednecks that don’t understand that word, it means “what comes around, goes around” or “you reap what you sow”. Better yet, “Truth and justice triumphs over all”!!
    The “Drugster” revels in his free speech rights to spew hateful diatribes about anyone with whom he disagrees. Anybody with a brain doesn’t waste their time listening to him. He is a cowardly thug that would pis his pants if he had to face the victims of his attacks while he spun his despicable allegations.
    He should enjoy his $$ while he can, because there are dozens if not hundreds or thousands of his fans getting smarter every day. That means that their B.S. meters are also improving by not tuning in.
    Hopefully, his arrogant attempt to buy into a legitimate business that respects and treats each every one as a fellow American football fan.
    He is a pariah in our society that deserves to be shunned not only by the NFL but also by football fans of all religions and nationalities for his serial fear and hate mongering.

  65. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 8:18 PM

    TheBigOldDog
    Intelligent retort. When you have no facts, just resort to personal attacks like a child. Because you are a victim and are full of resentment. Rush has made tons of $ off of losers, plain and simple.
    Be an adult and get access to the demographics of the show. They are pathetic. High composition of old people (who are on socialist programs like Medicare) and lower income people who haven’t succeeded. Skews low against college graduate. The show’s product is anger and resentment.
    Check out the data. Educate yourself. Have an informed opinion. Or just listen to whatever Rush tells you.
    These are the facts. Sorry to offend you.

  66. Winston Wolfe says: Oct 14, 2009 8:23 PM

    The bottom line on this whole mess……
    Rush’s audience will grow and he will make more money because of it…and the NFL will lose money because it.

  67. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 8:23 PM

    BigOldDog
    Thanks for leaving the nation is such a great state after 8 years of unquestioned rule.
    9/11 attacks happened on your watch.
    New Orleans relief bungled on your watch.
    Economy in ruins on your watch.
    Losing 2 wars on your watch.
    Look at every demographic group that is growing (Hispanics, young people, educated adults, white collar professionals). They are all trending Democratic.
    Look at every demographic group that is decreasing (white men from the South). They are all Republican.
    Every day when you wake up, there are less Republicans than there were when you went to bed the night before.
    Your candidate, an old white war hero from the heartland (coupled with a nitwit religious whacko) could not beat a black man from Chicago IN THE HEART OF THE CONFEDERACY.
    And Rush has a lot to do with mainstream America’s rejection of the GOP. I love Rush. I want him to stay on the radio. We could not do it without him, he is worth 40 electoral votes for the Democrats as long as he can be heard.
    But you can’t grasp that, can you?

  68. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 8:30 PM

    Chapnasty
    Are you a lawyer? Because that post was bizarre.

  69. smalfish says: Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM

    This isn’t about the NFL’s right to deny any bid. This is about the tactics and lies that were used to slander one person in an effort to influence that decision. Got it now brainiac?
    So, you’re saying the NFL shouldn’t have any right to who gets to be in their club?
    What’re ya, a socialist commie pig?
    Of course this was exactly about the NFL’s right to pick and choose. They’re the one’s who would pay the cost of any stupid thing Limpbow would say, anywhere he said it. And you all know as well as I do, that he cannot help but say inflammatory things. That. Is. What. He. Does.

  70. VoxVerítas says: Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM

    You have to give Rush Limbaugh credit. His formula to make his loyal listeners mad – works. He even points out how amazed he is when they keep falling for it! Click to see this video and hear him talking candidly about his best listeners who are the ones that lack confidence and come seeking out Limbaugh’s bravado and cockiness to shore up their own lack of true opinions on issues.
    Rush carefully screens the calls and makes sure that any caller is on point about something said on the Rush Limbaugh show. He must lead them. They must follow. He doesn’t tolerate callers who want to talk about other shows or other issues. He claims that he sets himself up as the expert and all conversation revolves around HIS reactions to events. According to him, his ditto-heads are made up of people with “fruitful” imaginations who easily take whatever bait he has to offer. It’s just that easy. Does he REALLY believe the stuff he says? Rush’s reply: “That’s up to you to figure out!”
    That’s just a riot! Ditto-heads that think this Entertainer’s show is somehow based in reality are slapped senselessly in that early Rush video interview. They’re just fodder for his self-wealth building schemes. He doesn’t care if this country fails. In fact if it continues to fail, people will be even more mad and have more reason to listen to him as he pulls down over $50,000,000 (fifty MILLION DOLLARS) this year and for the next three years, too. Keep buying all that stuff he hawks, suckers!

  71. SkolVikings says: Oct 14, 2009 8:32 PM

    Wow. So let me get this straight: A foul-mouthed, sexist and lacivious “comedian” can be selected to the US Senator position in Minnesota and everyone’s ok with that.
    But a conservative media host can’t own 10% of a private enterprise without the media crying foul? Something stinks about this, and anyone with common sense can see it. What a joke.

  72. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 8:33 PM

    The really funny thing here is that the extremist conservatives posting here (note not ordinary conservatives) are actually arguing against their ideology because of their partiality for Rush Limbaugh.
    This is mostly about the NFL’s right to freedom of association.
    Hey Rush fans and extremists, Rush’s first amendment rights allow him to say what he wants on his radio show. That’s what the first amendment is. Freedom of speech. Nothing more, nothing less.
    You should be happy that you live in a country where the right to freedom of association exists, and is strong enough that it can’t be trampled on because of extreme wealth.

  73. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM

    “Do you really believe that Al Sharpton would be approved to buy a team?”
    If Al had the money, he would most certainly be allowed to pitch in on an NFL ballclub.
    Are you serious?
    Jesse “Hymietown” Jackson ran for President, the current President is friends with lunatics like Bill Ayers and Rev. Dr. Wright.
    Would someone with Barry’s pedigree be allowed to run for President? AND WIN?
    After all, all the NFL players are black, DeMaurice Smith woudn’t have a problem with a black guy owning a team.
    Sure, Rev Al would be able to get in on the action. it’s not more criminal than the crap he pulls right now.
    You go look at the news sites, Al is hailed as an honest voice of opposition.

  74. KaiserSoze says: Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM

    This was posted over on another Limbaugh thread, and probably the only sensible comment I’ve seen on this subject in a week.
    (props to Hal Frye)
    # Hal Fyre says: October 14, 2009 6:40 PM
    Two lessons here.
    1. Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword. Rush is free to spew his race baiting rhetoric, amusing himself and his listeners. Roger Goodell (a McCain contributor), NFL owners, and NFL players are free to express their distain for Rush’s offensive comments.
    2. Extreme, strident, far right-wing ideology embraced by Rush and fanatics like him is not as mainstream as they would lead us to believe. The opposition to Limbaugh isn’t a liberal, left-wing conspiracy. It’s from the NFL commissioner and owners, a group of fairly conservative white guys, who believe Limbaugh’s divisive and inflammatory politics jeopardize their business.

  75. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM

    Amen to StrengthOfFates.

  76. hay1111 says: Oct 14, 2009 8:37 PM

    So Leonard Little not only isn’t in jail but can play NFL football after killing someone while he was drunky drivey and make millions of dollars on top of it, BUT Rush Limbaugh can’t own a portion of an NFL team because of remarks he didn’t say? This ain’t America no more.

  77. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 8:38 PM

    ???
    “Myself and several others have proved people like you wrong over and over and over….
    This is a larger much larger than Rush Limbaugh. …This is about a single group of people with a similar political point of view being able to control business decisions.”
    WTF are you talking about?
    FACT…The NFL doesn’t want its brand tarnished by an association with a divisive figure.
    FACT…They don’t need to.
    FACT…There are plenty of vanilla, inoffensive people who will pony up the exact same amount of cash.
    FACT…They have every right to make the best business decision for them, so stop crying because your preferred candidate wasn’t strong enough to get over the finish line.
    This is business. What isn’t clear to you?
    And the “small group of people” who you dismiss just happen to be the owners of the league’s teams. They DO get to decide who gets in. Again, tons of groups will offer the exact same amount of cash.
    So it all becomes about their ability to promote and grow the NFL brand. In the US, and increasingly abroad.
    Lookit, it is easy to view this as all political on our end (left and right). But from the viewpoint of the owners and commish, it is 100% business.
    Or do they not get to make that decision? Are you a communist socialist czarist anti-capitalist now?
    Oh, and his bid was not rejected. He never made one. Rush’s partners dropped him.
    FACT.

  78. antneejay2 says: Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PM

    “Congrat liberal idiots you have succeeded yet again in not allowing the American Dream to succeed. Tomorrow morning I will wake up to see that Obama takes military adive from Joe Biden instead of Military Commanders, health care will be run by the people who ran the post office into bankruptcy and the dollar will be flushed down the toilet and we are run by China. The liberal agenda will fail us all. It is truly a sad, sad day as racist leftists win the day. This will be my last post until tomorrow. Laugh as you might, but you will regret it. America is no longer equal.
    I fully expect Rush to bid on his own.” – chapnasty
    This topic generated a lot of really funny shit. This one is my favorite.
    There aren’t real people behind this stuff, are there?

  79. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 8:40 PM

    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 7:55 PM
    Bwa..
    …because none of then understand business, or what a “brand” is.
    I am a Reagan conservative. These people are not ‘conservatives’, they are Theocratic Imperialists who want big, authoratarian government.
    If Reagan came back, they’d smear him as a ‘liberal’.
    ****************
    Stop lying. You are no Reagan conservative. Why you Leftists and Paulnuts feel the need to lie about your political persuasion is beyond me. And, the idea that “Costal ellites” is code for Jew is the biggest crock of sh!t I’ve read in a while. If you are looking for antisemitism and where it resides it ain’t hard to find pal. It lies with the Left in this country (Just go read Huffpo, DKOS or DU for an hour) and the real code-word for Jew (neocon) and with the Paulnuts.

  80. cman says: Oct 14, 2009 8:48 PM

    chapnasty get a grip . This is America. You have your rights mixed up. Is it a right to PLAY in the NFL? No it is a privelege right? If I want to sell my car to you could you sue me because I changed the my mind (for whatever reason). I think not. 10 to 1 says no law suits will be filed. If they are, Rush will not win. Not trying to make you mad just the way I see it. I think your blind faith in Rush has you thinkin ass-backwards. In your attempt to defend, which is your right, you have lost sight of reality. That is not to say that Rush wouldn’t be a great owner (he is a Steeler fan after all so he may know what a winner should look like)

  81. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM

    Big Old Dog
    You know that guy was mocking Rush with that “mole on the ass” bit, right?
    Most if not all of Rush’s five deferments during the Vietnam War were for ass boils.
    He had so many deferments, it is tough to keep them all straight.
    Cheney’s were for “other priorities” (FACT – exact quote) and Guiliani’s were for endless college and internships at a family friend’s law firm.
    FACT. Check it out.

  82. sapphire13 says: Oct 14, 2009 8:50 PM

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2549
    At the bottom of the page you will see that a version of this appeared in the Los Angeles Times on 6-7-00.

  83. slick3NBC says: Oct 14, 2009 8:52 PM

    HA! HA! HA! HA! Ocelot138, you’re crazy, man. That’s good stuff LOL!

  84. da kat says: Oct 14, 2009 8:56 PM

    For those of you that have short term memory, can I say Marge Schott in the 90’s. This isn’t the first ime this has happened.
    Leave the Constitution out of this. This is a business deal plain & simple.
    I must say after being quiet for 8 grueling years, it is refreshing to hear conservatives and all of you rush/hannity/beck folks crying foul. Pardon the sports pun.

  85. Twiz says: Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM

    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 7:50 PM
    On Limbaugh’s show tomorrow…
    1) The NFL will be called a socialist organization
    2) Roger Godell will be compared to Hitler
    3) The media will be accused of slander, although no suit will be filed
    4) It’ll be inferred that Dave Checketts is gay
    5) Faux boycotts will be initiaited
    6) More America hating from the right, who cheer daily for its collapse so they can get Palin elected
    7) Rush will use this as an excuse to carry the cross up the hill one more time
    8) Blame laid at the door of “the masses” (code for black people) and “coastal elites (code for Jews)
    If America is “done” because Rush isn’t viewed by a sporting league as a good potential owner, then you obviously view America as weak and pathetic. I, on the other hand, think the Republic is stronger than that. We’ll be just fine. Christ, we even survived the demise of the USFL. We can get past this.
    This is why no one will admit to being a Republican anymore.
    ________________________________
    I kinda figured what you said bears repeating cause those of us with a brain that is not stuck up Rush’s behind know it to be true. Tomorrow he will be the absolute victim and Obama will be to blame……Wonder how his Republican buddy Checketts will pan out in Rush’s philosophy! LOL

  86. Sonoco says: Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM

    I’m sure he’s terribly heart-broken that he’ll have to spend his hundreds of millions on something else.
    Next.

  87. Snowman2008 says: Oct 14, 2009 9:01 PM

    Fatandnasty…get over it! You lost. The American people won. And it feels soooooooo good!!!!
    And you know what else? Every time I read more of your whiny comments it makes me feel even better.
    Bet you watch Fox News 8 hours a day. Then you post your dribble another 8 hours a day. What a life.

  88. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 9:02 PM

    TheBigOldDog
    This is about the tactics and lies that were used to slander one person in an effort to influence that decision.
    ______________________________
    Completely incorrect. For one, Rush’s reputation was not developed in this past week. His reputation as a controversial figure making inflammatory statements has been around for nearly twenty years. To even think that wasn’t the primary basis of concern about his ownership is pretty ridiculous.
    Two, the quotations that were used were not created within the last week. There were around for a long time prior. Further, the quotations used had not been categorically denied by Rush until yesterday. Before that there was a reasonable and in good faith reason to believe that they were statements that could have been made by Rush.
    Which brings us full circle to reason three. The fact that one in good faith could reasonably believe that Rush did make those statements is a validation of reason one. Which thus confirms that Rush’s overall reputation is more of factor than individual quote attributed to him.
    This is entirely about the NFL’s freedom to associate with people whom they choose.

  89. Mike McCarthy's Moobs says: Oct 14, 2009 9:05 PM

    I have to say that the most hilarious thing about all these Limbaugh threads is all the angry dittoheads complaining about the “uninformed”. It really is like rain on your wedding day.
    Oh, and I also like how the word “liberals” has been redefined to mean “people I don’t like”.

  90. TominNH says: Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM

    There will BE no lawsuits. The NFL has an absolute right to approve or disapprove anyone’s application for ownership. 75% of owners must approve of any sale of a team. They need no give no reason!! Their decision cant be appealed outside the NFL. No one has a right to be an NFL owner!
    Rush needs to understand that his statements have consequences>

  91. Twiz says: Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM

    @chapnasty
    Pull your head out of your ass! How do you figure any type of lawsuit can be filed because the ownership group dropped him on his own fat ass? What does the NFL have to do with that? His political views are not the cause of the problem. THE OWNERSHIP GROUP IS REPUBLICAN YOU DUMBASS!!!!!

  92. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 9:20 PM

    Let’s be clear.
    I don’t think the debate is “is Rush a racist”. I dunno. But he has a shtick, and it pits half the nation against the other half. And, God bless him, he does a great job and makes a fortune doing it (and, yeah, helps the Dems immensely).
    The fact that he is out of the bidding for the Rams is not due to politics per se. It is all about the fact that he is a controversial figure who would tarnish the league’s brand. It would make some people like it less, and that is unacceptable from a BUSINESS standpoint.
    How is standing up for business owners to make smart business decisions now “liberal”. That is as conservative Republican as it gets.
    As Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or Glen Beck or Ann Coulter or Keith Olbermann would. And for that matter, I bet Michael Jackson would have been dissuaded (despite never having been tried much less found guilty of molestation charges).
    And what about this – the only way he could not be a controversial owner would be to stop doing the show. And how could he do that? He’s then be disqualified on financial grounds.
    And if you want to know why the NFl does not want a loud and vocal owner, check out ESPN’s “30-30″ move about the Baltimore Colts. Irsay was in open warfare with that city, and it was really a shame. Can never happen again.
    It was the smart business decision, guys.

  93. cman says: Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM

    Twiz im with you but Dan Rooney is a democrat(and a winner) but your point is well taken In this great oligarchy of ours it would generally be considered good business, by democrats or republicans, to not have Rush in the mix. This is whole deal is great for the rushmeister which after all is his goal but a no brainer for the powers that be in the NFL. Just good business.

  94. maverick7wi says: Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM

    I’m amazed at the Rush bashing…especially by a few players. I bet these same players wouldn’t have a problem with Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson were in a group bidding to by an NFL team. Those two clowns are race baiting pimps, but yet they get a pass. Sure, Rush has said some controversial things….but no where near the level of those two. Roger Goodell lets people like Michael Vick or Matt Jones have second chances. I guess Rush (even though a couple of the quotes attributed to him were not said by him) doesnt get the benefit of the doubt. I’m not a Rush listener, but I do believe he is being treated unfairly.

  95. brian_21 says: Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM

    This is a victory for America.

  96. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 9:25 PM

    “If Al had the money, he would most certainly be allowed to pitch in on an NFL ballclub.”
    OH, DOCTOR! YOU LOSE ALL CREDIBILITY.

  97. cman says: Oct 14, 2009 9:27 PM

    Any one ever read that book Rush Limbaugh is a Fat Dick I think it was called. Was it any good.

  98. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 9:31 PM

    No Old Dog.
    You are not a Republican. You are some big government, theocratic, imperialist mutation of the party.
    And you guys need to go for the party to get back in the big leagues. Your brand of nonsense killed it.

  99. c2flyer says: Oct 14, 2009 9:32 PM

    It is amazing when non-conservations stand up, the wack0 bigots play the victims game. It is common knowledge about what limbaugh has said and you dont have to read between the lines. If he could come out and say what he wants to say I wouldnt be surprised what would come from his mouth. You idiots couldnt be that blind, deaf, and dumb. He should be allowed to buy anything he wants. Likewise, the players should not have to play for, and the fans should not support them if he buys in.
    For antneejay2….you obviously dont know your history. This country is in the shape it is because of republicans and conservations doing what they want to pad their pockets on the backs of the ill-informed. How on could vote against their own self interest is perplexing but it boils down the selfishness of the elite and the hatred and bigotry of those they manipulate. Rush, as plain as day, said it in an interview and I was shocked he did. He knew that the faithful wouldnt hear it.
    cheers for common sense!!!

  100. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 9:34 PM

    My favorite post was the one where a “Republican” called for ethnic cleansing of Democrats.
    Lookit, you will never change a dittohead’s mind. They are brainwashed.
    I should stop wasting my time, I have to find someone to take Steve Slaton off my hands.

  101. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 9:36 PM

    Glad to see that chapnasty, tominNH, Mike McCarthy’s Moobs, Abe Froeman, Snowman2008, Mooch, KaiserSoze, smalfish, and others: Glad to see that you agree that everything said about Limbaugh being a racist is a lie. If the owner of the Rams wants to sell to Limbaugh and others, the NFL should have no say in it. I will admit that if Checketts and the others bump Limbaugh, the that is a sad state of affairs. But, he can still join in the end as there is nothing preventing Checketts and the others from selling a portion of their shares to Limbaugh. Like those who supported Clinton, it is sad that so many people are dum enough to say: I know it’s not true, but I like what he has to say.

  102. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 9:37 PM

    Abe Froeman says:
    Wrong dishonest Abe. This is about the Left using lies – attributing words to Rush – that he never used. This is about the Media like CNN picking up those lies off Leftist websites and reporting them as fact and then having to back-off when called on them. This is about Leftists like Chris Matthews having on air death fantasies about Rush for which he had to apologize just this evening. This is about the Left, taking Obama’s lead in trying to silence one man and using this as just the latest opportunity.

  103. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 9:39 PM

    george says: October 14, 2009 8:17 PM
    This is the law of karma at its best. For you repugs and rednecks that don’t…
    ****
    Leftist bigotry in its full glory. Thanks for letting it all hang out George!

  104. Lombardi 6 says: Oct 14, 2009 9:44 PM

    Screw you Florio and all your lawyer buttbuddies..Godells another one..What a pile of loose bloody stool this red headed stepchild is turning out to be..Not only is he turning the NFL into a F(l)ag football league, but he would rather give a a guy that killed over 100 dogs by electrocution, drowning, and bludgeoning represent his sorry ass league, instead of an individualist who wants everyone to prosper, no matter color,age ,creed…You SUCK Godell!!—Oh yeah–I hope Florio Jr. has to have his drumsticks surgically removed from his anal cavity…

  105. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 9:45 PM

    # tian says: October 14, 2009 7:36 PM
    Rush knew going in that eventually he would get dropped. Media Matters have an entire website dedicated to storing audio of his racist and other incendiary attacks on all people who doesn’t have this pre-Civil Rights view of America. So he knew that the NFL would reject him.
    See, it was all for his audience. He wanted something else to keep playing the white-male victim. Now he can go on radio and tell his audience that this is, once again why the world is turning against “us.” And how they are losing control of America. And how the media elite is after him for telling them the “truth.” And he’s going to milk this for a long, long time.
    Check and mate.
    ***
    God you leftists are as ignorant as the come. Did it escape your keen eye that they were unable to produce any audio or transcripts? Did it escape you that CNN had to apologize for passing on lies as fact? And has it escaped your keen intellect that one group just used lies and slander to pressure the NFL and an investor group to bend to their will? Does it escape your infinite intelligence that all that is required for evil to triumph is for people to cave into it?
    People like to talk about karma, well warp your head around this karma. Some day it may be you or someone you love on the receiving end of such a campaign and nobody may give a damn.

  106. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 9:50 PM

    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 8:50 PM
    Big Old Dog
    You know that guy was mocking Rush with that “mole on the ass” bit, right?
    Most if not all of Rush’s five deferments during the Vietnam War were for ass boils.
    He had so many deferments, it is tough to keep them all straight.
    Cheney’s were for “other priorities” (FACT – exact quote) and Guiliani’s were for endless college and internships at a family friend’s law firm.
    FACT. Check it out.
    **************
    He Mooch, since when are Libs for Vietnam? I thought you people were all against that war and all for the people who did anything the could to stay out of it including fleeing to Canada?
    Moore Leftist hypocrisy.
    But you are a Reagan Conservative right? ROFLMAO! Stand up for what you believe in. Be a man. Why do you feel the need to lie about who you are?

  107. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 9:54 PM

    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 9:31 PM
    No Old Dog.
    You are not a Republican. You are some big government, theocratic, imperialist mutation of the party.
    And you guys need to go for the party to get back in the big leagues. Your brand of nonsense killed it.
    ***
    You’re right I am not a Republican. I am an Independent Conservative. I cut my teeth my RR. I’m for Big Government? Theocracy? ROFLMAO!
    Boy you pretenders get all pissy when you are uncovered! LOL!

  108. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 9:54 PM

    Gee, my feelings are hurt. I can’t seem to get anyone to respond to my posts and come up with any examples of where Rush is bigoted or has said what he has been alleged to have said. Well, looks like we are about to have our healthcare run by these same people who have never run anything successfully. The libs love politicians, afterall, they are the only honest people of the bunch.

  109. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 10:00 PM

    Witchrunner…
    I said I didn’t know if he was. I personally think that most of these political pundits don’t follow politics that closely or care one way or another who is in power so long as they are making money. Rush was not registered to vote either time Reagan ran for Pres. But none of that matters, he makes a fortune with a divisive shtick.
    But the owners DO have the right to deny him entry. So what’s your point?
    And Checketts already dropped him.
    Nice to see that robot Old Dog finally got around to blaming Obama for all of this. What a silly person you are, Old Dog. Did Obama keep you from getting that big promotion / raise / pretty girl at the bar?

  110. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 10:03 PM

    @ TheBigOldDog
    So your response to my posts is first to make an ad hominem attack on my honesty, completely ignore all the points I make, and do nothing but restate your original position?
    And then you somehow inject the conjured notion that this issue is about Obama?
    Wow, way to dodge and avoid.
    If you’re going to respond to me, for the sake of a discourse it is necessary you address the points I raise. Otherwise I might as well be talking to a machine that merely repeats the same things over and over again.

  111. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 10:03 PM

    “Evil to triumph”
    Because Rush can’t be in on a bid for an NFL franchise.
    First they came for the billionaires trying to buy an NFL franchise…
    What a silly person you are, BOD. Are you suffering from head trauma?

  112. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 10:05 PM

    Lombardi6…
    …product of the American public school system. A grown child. We failed you, kid.

  113. hayward giapunchmi says: Oct 14, 2009 10:19 PM

    I don’t know what’s better.. Watching Limbaugh get shown the door by his partners or listening to chapnasty in his misguided righteous indignation.
    It’s a win-win.

  114. Ocelot138 says: Oct 14, 2009 10:20 PM

    @TheBigOldDog
    You know who REALLY doesn’t care that you’re speaking up abotu this?
    Rush Limbaugh.
    He’s fat, rich, full of painkillers and admiring the bodies of young island boys.
    He has you brainwashed and he truly, honestly could give a rat’s about your vehement defense of him.
    You are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with the Republican party, and why it will never dominate politics as long as Limbaugh remains the most prominent Republican speaker.

  115. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 10:20 PM

    # Abe Froeman says: October 14, 2009 10:03 PM
    @ TheBigOldDog
    So your response to my posts is first to make an ad hominem attack on my honesty, completely ignore all the points I make, and do nothing but restate your original position?
    And then you somehow inject the conjured notion that this issue is about Obama?
    Wow, way to dodge and avoid.
    If you’re going to respond to me, for the sake of a discourse it is necessary you address the points I raise. Otherwise I might as well be talking to a machine that merely repeats the same things over and over again.
    ****
    Abe, the upshot of your post was, “Fake but accurate.” Do you really want me to make it that obvious an embarrass you that much? I though I was being kind but letting it go. Oh well, you know what they say, “no good day goes unpunished.”

  116. Ocelot138 says: Oct 14, 2009 10:21 PM

    “If you’re going to respond to me, for the sake of a discourse it is necessary you address the points I raise. Otherwise I might as well be talking to a machine that merely repeats the same things over and over again.”
    You ARE talking to a machine that repeats the same things over and over again. The things Rush, Hannity and Beck fed into the machine to begin with.
    Dittoheads. Parrots. Sheep.

  117. coaltrain says: Oct 14, 2009 10:23 PM

    @chapnasty and The Big Old Dog
    keep giving ‘em hell,y’all are right.
    @cman–you are a punk,back to your video games little fella,,,off you go.

  118. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 10:25 PM

    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 10:03 PM
    “Evil to triumph”
    Because Rush can’t be in on a bid for an NFL franchise.
    First they came for the billionaires trying to buy an NFL franchise…
    What a silly person you are, BOD. Are you suffering from head trauma?
    **
    Ah, no Mooch, because people in the media can publish outright lies and smear people they consider enemies and limit what they can and can’t do in a “free” country. Did I really need to explain that to you?

  119. skf727 says: Oct 14, 2009 10:26 PM

    @abefroeman
    >Completely incorrect. For one, Rush’s reputation was not developed in this past week. His reputation as a controversial figure making inflammatory statements has been around for nearly twenty years.
    Controversial being code-word for conservative. If you say the emperor has no clothes is that “inflammatory”? Conservatives like Rush are ‘controversial’, while liberals like Sean Penn are ‘outspoken’ in the modern vernacular.
    >To even think that wasn’t the primary basis of concern about his ownership is pretty ridiculous.
    I think the made-up quotes attributed to Limbaugh had EVERYTHING to do with him getting dropped from the ownership group.
    >Two, the quotations that were used were not created within the last week. There were around for a long time prior. Further, the quotations used had not been categorically denied by Rush until yesterday. Before that there was a reasonable and in good faith reason to believe that they were statements that could have been made by Rush.
    If the two quotations were complete fabrications- that is the end of the story. Whether they were created last week, two weeks ago, two years ago, ten years ago- they are still lies
    Read again what you just wrote. “…there was a reasonable and in good faith reason to believe…”
    Says who? You!?!? Because it fits YOUR template?!?!
    >>Which brings us full circle to reason three. The fact that one in good faith could reasonably believe that Rush did make those statements is a validation of reason one. Which thus confirms that Rush’s overall reputation is more of factor than individual quote attributed to him.
    Only a true dumbass could recognize a statement as a lie and then with haughty contempt use the same lie to pompously justify one’s pre-conceived prejudice.
    I bet you were one of the guys shouting the loudest that Dick Cheney kept forcing the CIA to produce intelligence to justify the Iraq War. What a complete and utter fool you are.
    >>This is entirely about the NFL’s freedom to associate with people whom they choose.
    Did you say the same thing about Augusta National? Doubtful.

  120. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 10:26 PM

    BOD, you are obviously a dope. If you are a Limbaugh supporter you are a core Republican, the 20% of the party that runs things. This core supported Bush-Cheney in everything they did, inclusive of many actions that Reagan would have abhorred…
    1) Huge government
    2) Sustained foreign intervention
    3) Torture
    But you have no political opinions, you just do whatever Limbaugh tells you to do. You are devoid of any opinions or command of facts – which is why you have not successfully argued even one point today.
    A man who cheerleads for war and more war should have served when he had the chance. Don’t you think? I was 3 when the war ended, pre-draft age.
    But John Kerry was a sissy to you, right?
    You are clearly from the South.

  121. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 10:28 PM

    If you are a fiscal conservative…
    …the Democratic party is your only choice. Or did you miss most of the country voting for Obama. Even in places like VA, NC, and IN.
    You asked us to leave so you could have your 10 Commandments statues. We left. And we won’t have a Republican President until all of your old Southern whites are die of old age.

  122. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 10:32 PM

    BTW, if you go back to the original post you will see that I was AGAINST Rush or any politically active person owning ANY professional sports team. The reason being that pro sports are one of the few things left in this country that brings ALL the people in a community together regardless of race, creed, color, religion, sex, age, socio-economic class, etc. Bringing politics into the equation can’t help but be divisive.
    Had the opposition to Rush been based on principal and applied to all equally I would have agreed wholeheartedly. But that’s not what happened. What happened here is the Left, with their allies in the corrupt media target one man for destruction using complete slander. That’s about as despicable as it gets in my eyes. Unfortunately most people don’t seem to care as long as it’s their enemies ox being gored.

  123. Paulii says: Oct 14, 2009 10:32 PM

    Clearly the limp-wristed folks are in charge, from the White House to the NFL. It’s sad really, but a temporary situation at best.
    When someone speaks the truth about a sensitive issue, the children win the argument screaming racist, when in fact he is anything but a racist.
    But the simple minded folks refuse to actually listen or learn about Rush, they simply spew their little hate-speech lib talking points.
    Enjoy the temporary power, it won’t last.

  124. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 10:36 PM

    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 10:05 PM
    Lombardi6…
    …product of the American public school system. A grown child. We failed you, kid.
    ***
    They fail virtually all of them. And yet the Left opposes vouchers lest it upset the Teacher’s unions and cost them money and votes. Unfortunately, that’s the America we live in today.

  125. Lombardi 6 says: Oct 14, 2009 10:42 PM

    Mooch..————–No that would be Michael Vick–I’m sure you have a poster in your room..

  126. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 14, 2009 10:44 PM

    Could it be that Limbaugh will end up owning all the slots in this websites top 5 most commented. That would be a sad day for us all. Can we get back to talking football. The other post misses you guys.

  127. mad555 says: Oct 14, 2009 10:45 PM

    @ chapnasty
    Then I guess you would be surprised if I told you I am a white person. I am married to a black woman and her family. I have experienced racism first hand, and let me tell you this, it isn’t from any black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other minority from this country. It has been by/from people like yourself. Like Rush LimpDick, everything you have said speaks to how ignorant you are when it comes to other cultures in the US trying to get a equal and fair opportunity in White America. How do you think you would fair in another country as the minority? So do you think as soon as African Americans were released from slavery they had equal rights or opportunity to prosper in America? If not, then when did black people start to get a fair shake from white people in this country? If you honestly think you can answer that question then you are truly the problem with this country and are as ignorant as they come.

  128. coaltrain says: Oct 14, 2009 10:50 PM

    @ Mooch
    whats wrong from being from the south?

  129. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 10:52 PM

    @TheBigOldDog
    Say what?
    I want you to do try to do whatever you can possibly do to actually respond to one of my posts without merely restating your original position.

  130. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 10:52 PM

    You are contradicting yourself.
    You believe that the NFL made the right decision in the end – it was the smart business move.
    Yet, with no evidence to back it up, you think they were influenced by Obama, the media, and liberal America.
    Which was it? Smart decision or the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy? And since only Rush tried to buy a team, that was the guy who got attacked.
    If Al Sharpton tried to buy a team, what would Rush be saying on the radio? C’mon, you know it is true.
    Lombardi6 – you have about the same command of the English language as Michael Vick.
    PS – I support vouchers.

  131. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 10:53 PM

    Mooch says: October 14, 2009 10:26 PM
    BOD, you are obviously a dope.
    *********
    You’ve been pwned and outted by a dope. You must feel humiliated.
    # Mooch says: October 14, 2009 10:28 PM
    If you are a fiscal conservative…
    …the Democratic party is your only choice. Or did you miss most of the country voting for Obama. Even in places like VA, NC, and IN.
    You asked us to leave so you could have your 10 Commandments statues. We left. And we won’t have a Republican President until all of your old Southern whites are die of old age.
    ****
    And here comes the bigotry. Who’s the racists? Who’s the bigots?
    You couldn’t even keep up the Reagan Conservative lie for a single post.
    Democratic party the party of fiscal conservatism? Dude, put down the pipe. You’ve had enough.

  132. Cleveland Rocks says: Oct 14, 2009 10:55 PM

    Florio is a tool for PMSNBC…
    If you don’t agree with that, you have to agree that Florio is a tool.

  133. Cleveland Rocks says: Oct 14, 2009 11:02 PM

    If you are conservative, and you choose the Democrat party, you don’t know th definition of a conservative.

  134. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 11:05 PM

    So, Mooch, your position is whatever the poleticians says or whatever the socialist says, is right? Or as you say, what ever the owners say goes. Well if the owners of the Rams want to sell to him, why should anyone have a say against it. It’s easy to be against things. Whar are you for? Are you for freedom? If so, then you must be against things like the obamacare bills. Are You? Of course, if you are for the NFL being able to deny a financially responsible person from buying a franchise because of his political belief, then I suppose you agree with the segregationists for their refusal to sell to blacks. If the owner of the Rams want to sell to Limbaugh, what is your basis for the sale not going through? Just because the other owners dont’ want it to because they are bigoted? You obviously haven’t thought through your rationales.

  135. Bazooka Joe says: Oct 14, 2009 11:06 PM

    Good riddance to that drug using nazi.

  136. Mooch says: Oct 14, 2009 11:10 PM

    Michael Vick makes the NFL money. I saw Vick jerseys on sale the Saturday after they signed him. That tells you something (about his marketability and the dark side of human nature IMO). Plus, you never hear or see Vick unless it is a scripted event.
    Vick provides a talent no one else has, he can possibly go back to being one of the major marketing pieces for the NFL. And that means more cash for the owners.
    Limbaugh alienates a much wider fan base, especially casual fans who are the difference between the NFL having a good year and a great year.
    Why would you run that risk when so many others have just as much money to offer? There are so many prospective owners who offer the exact same financial package Limbaugh did (he was a member of a group that quickly replaced him to the last penny). Why risk losing money? Why risk wrecking a franchise that no free agents would go to? Like the Rams aren’t already in danger?
    And, of course, Limbaugh would be on every single day on the radio – spouting off his divisive shtick. So he never goes away like Vick does from Monday-Saturday. He is always there pissing potential customers off.
    You cannot compare the two, but I suspect you knew that.

  137. TW says: Oct 14, 2009 11:12 PM

    So it’s OK that Dan Rooney mixes sports and politics– because he’s for Obama.
    Such hyprocrisy…

  138. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 11:12 PM

    Will the libs demand that all of the profits from the sale and operation be paid to the government? They obviously trust the politicians to spend their money wisely.

  139. Cleveland Rocks says: Oct 14, 2009 11:13 PM

    Tomb,
    You’re a dumbass. Rush did not say that it was OK for the black kids to beat the white kids, he said that’s where society has landed…based upon a story he was commenting on from the state-woned media.
    Get your head out of your rear-end and you will be able to hear. Wait, you have never heard Limbaugh, you have only listened to Olberman make up quotes and attribute them to him.

  140. Cleveland Rocks says: Oct 14, 2009 11:18 PM

    Sportspanty says:
    October 14, 2009 7:48 PM
    Wiki publishes rumors.
    MSNBC uses rumors as investigative journalism.
    Rumors destroy the American Dream.
    Mission accomplished.
    …Well said.

  141. Abe Froeman says: Oct 14, 2009 11:20 PM

    @ skf727
    1. Since when is “controversial” code for “conservative.” That doesn’t even make sense. Are you seriously arguing Limbaugh isn’t controversial? If you are, the word delusional comes to mind. I mean, aren’t all these posts evidence enough for you?
    2. The point I was addressing was that the quotations in question had been designed for the specific purpose of obstructed Rush’s ownership bid. To which it is clear that since they existed for a long period of time prior to the bid, they could not have been expressly made for purpose of obstructed the bid. This should be self-evident.
    3. Nice resort to insults. But I’ll rise above and address your underlying point anyway. What I did was take the criterion by which something can be considered defamation and show how by using that criterion Rush’s overall reputation, that he gained in twenty years, can be a more influential determinant of people’s judgment of his character than a couple throw away quotes.
    4. Wow, way to make assumptions. As for Augusta National I’ve actually already addressed this on a different thread, and indirectly in this thread. I believe in the constitution and the derived right of freedom of association. The PGA has a right to freely choose whatever golf courses it wants to, using any criteria it wants to. And the golf club has the right to freedom of association. It’s really that clear. There is no ambiguity there.

  142. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 11:25 PM

    I’m glad Mooch and the rest of the liberals side with the “separate but equal” crowd. For those who have forgotten, the original issue was about the sale, by the owners, of the St. Louis Rams. The position taken by the the liberals against the sale to a group which includes Rush Limbaugh is that a person or group is free to not deal with someone with whom they disagree with. So, if I own a local grocery store, and I don’t lke blacks or liberals, the liberal position is that I don’t have to sell to them. The conservative postion is that I have the right to sell to the highest bidder. Who should prevail?

  143. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 14, 2009 11:29 PM

    Dishonest Abe said:
    Two, the quotations that were used were not created within the last week. There were around for a long time prior. Further, the quotations used had not been categorically denied by Rush until yesterday. Before that there was a reasonable and in good faith reason to believe that they were statements that could have been made by Rush.
    Which brings us full circle to reason three. The fact that one in good faith could reasonably believe that Rush did make those statements is a validation of reason one. Which thus confirms that Rush’s overall reputation is more of factor than individual quote attributed to him.
    ***
    So, in other words, the quotes were fake, but they were accurate (reflect reality). You know, the same excuse Dan Rather used when defending using fake documents to smear Bush. “Fake but Accurate” It’s the last excuse of a scoundrel and one you seem to have no problem using.
    The fact that the media can smear a person with fake quotes and intentionally mischaracterize others, it’s okay to simply believe it in your little world. Pretty sad Abe. Pretty sad.

  144. dashoe says: Oct 14, 2009 11:37 PM

    Uh oh. It appears Limbaugh is going after all those who reported the false quotes. Now that Checketts dropped Limbaugh he now has proof of damages which is in the 10’s of millions. If I were Rick Sanchez of CNN, the douches at MSNBC, and every single liberal newpaper hack like Jason Whitlock i’d be lawyering up. But, it looks like Rush has an ironclad case. He’s got Irsay on tape saying he opposes Rush because of the comments and Goodell saying the same. Open shut case for libel and slander.
    Rush needs to make an example out of these leftwing lunatics, and from what I hear that is exactly what he intends to do.
    Florio, you may be in the crosshairs too. Better put you lawyer cap on.

  145. witchrunner says: Oct 14, 2009 11:38 PM

    Mooch, you are delusional. Rush has never alienated anyone. He hasn’t said anything that would alienate anyone. Those who say they are alieanted have made up reasons to be alienate. So, your opinion, What has he ever said that is devisive?

  146. djb1 says: Oct 14, 2009 11:41 PM

    It’s all about money, not politics. Michael Jordan pointed out when asked to take a stance on a political issue:”Republicans buy sneakers too!”. There is probably no group in America more conservative then the people who own NFL franchises. The rejection of Rush is strictly due to how a lying, drug abusing, hate spewing racist would affect the bottom line.

  147. yoyo says: Oct 14, 2009 11:43 PM

    Wow. What a statement this post has made about public education. So all you Obamaites out there, I really want to know, what is it like every morning to look in the mirror and see dumba$$ looking back at you. It must be mind numbing….oh what, that’s redundant.

  148. marko65 says: Oct 14, 2009 11:54 PM

    All Republicans should protest football.
    That’ll teach all pansy Americans.
    No one puts Rush in a corner! No one!

  149. Twiz says: Oct 14, 2009 11:59 PM

    I thought about responding to some of the Rush dittoheads that do not understand the simple logic of the situation, but I realized I would have a better chance of getting a pet rock to roll over!
    Those that blindly follow Rush are going to believe what he says, no matter how absurd it may be. Tomorrow he will be playing the victim, most likely throwing out his (likely former) REPUBLICAN friends in the ownership group under the bus cause it will serve *HIS* purpose of the victim.
    Let the real show begin!

  150. skf727 says: Oct 14, 2009 11:59 PM

    >>Limbaugh alienates a much wider fan base, especially casual fans who are the difference between the NFL having a good year and a great year.
    Gosh. I never knew that the Rams were the NFL’s glamour team. The only possible place where Limbaugh’s ownership could have an effect would be in St. Louis. At 0-5, I would imagine that the problem is more the product rather than ownership.
    >>Why risk wrecking a franchise that no free agents would go to? Like the Rams aren’t already in danger?
    No free agents would go to? Let me let you in on a little secret. Money talks, BS masquerading as principles walks.
    >>And, of course, Limbaugh would be on every single day on the radio – spouting off his divisive shtick.
    Limbaugh would not have lasted as long as he has lasted if his message wasn’t positive in nature. (Note: Air America’s continual hatefest and how quickly it flamed out for contrast) He believes in American exceptionalism. He believes that this is the best country on Earth. He believes that the current administration and in many ways the previous administration is doing/did the exact opposite of what we need to be doing. Nothing wrong with sticking to your principles.

  151. marko65 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:01 AM

    Good Riddance!
    Who needs a big city, elitist anyways?

  152. rich says: Oct 15, 2009 12:03 AM

    What’s interesting is that this group consisted of many people, including George Soros. Maybe he should get the boot because of his liberal thoughts. With that said, let it be known that liberty has taken another hit from tyranny. So much for free speech. The only free speech that liberals approve of is their own.

  153. witchrunner says: Oct 15, 2009 12:08 AM

    Selling Limbaugh Rams jersies would sell more. So ‘m glad you agree this is AOK.

  154. bgrayber says: Oct 15, 2009 12:46 AM

    Ah yes.
    Barrack Hussain Obama Mmm, Mmm, Mmm got his way today.
    1st taking over the banks, then the auto industry, and now preventing someone from buying a legitimate business.
    Where next? Forcing private health care from the people.
    Oh wait it has already began.
    Please invade us now China.

  155. bgrayber says: Oct 15, 2009 12:49 AM

    Hmm what a surprise. My post against this was never posted.

  156. Ocelot138 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:41 AM

    “You are clearly from the South.”
    Not necessarily, Mooch. Here in PA, everything West of the Philly Suburbs and East of Pittsburgh is what we call “Alabama North”. Lots of dittoheads there.
    And there are a lot of racist old-school WASP and Italians in the NY area who agree with Rush, too. Though his appeal is majorly Southern, there are idiots above the Mason-Dixon.

  157. aviator says: Oct 15, 2009 1:45 AM

    There’s no room for jerks in professional sports.

  158. Ocelot138 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:47 AM

    In this argument Vick = Straw Man
    Straw man arguments are all the right has here.
    “Democrats have said racist things in the past, so Rush can say them, too!”
    “Michael Vick is a scumbag, so stopping Rush from buying and NFL team because he’s a scumbag isn’t fair!”
    “Olbermann can broadcast for NBC and he rails against the Republicans, so Rush should be hired by the NFL because they are the same company!” (Note: Besides the obvious flaw in understanding the difference between a TV channel and the NFL, K.O. has said a lot of inflammatory things – he has never told a black person to ‘Take the bone out of your nose’)
    Note that these aren’t rational arguments. They’re passionate arguments. Nobody doubts there’s a lot of passion on the New Conservatives. There is, however, a lot of doubt as to the INTELLIGENCE of the New Conservatives.

  159. Electrogasm says: Oct 15, 2009 4:19 AM

    chapnasty –
    Thank you for so eloquently stating the truth about the current situation in American society so I don’t have to. The truth hurts and so many of these mindless, spineless libs/progressives are feeling the pain of your words at the moment.
    It”s nice to know that some people can still see through all of the BS the MSM and the O worshipers spew.
    We are the majority and it’s time that we rise up and stop the downward spiral.

  160. Roboto says: Oct 15, 2009 4:55 AM

    Why aren’t some of you right-wing loonies in Iraq right now fighting Bush/Cheney’s lie of a war?
    Well, Limbaugh dodged his generation’s war. I guess you really do want to be just like him.
    Dittoheads indeed!

  161. Steelerchick says: Oct 15, 2009 6:25 AM

    What in the world is wrong with all of you Boss Limpbaugh listeners. I had no idea so many red neck ignorant people though they knew anything about football or owned a computer. You all need to keep listening to Boss & his rants and leave the football comments to those who actually know something. Boss Limpbaughs made his money with his rantings and ravings, but he has put himself in a box and the rest of society wants him to stay in it. That’s why he’s on the radio….in his own little world.

  162. NoKoolaidCowboy says: Oct 15, 2009 6:49 AM

    I know my post will be in the 160’s but just had to write…
    Thank GOD! One less douche bag owner in the NFL.
    Rams won’t have to worry about him sending the equipment guy downtown to pick up his drugs for him like he did with his house cleaner.

  163. Dale says: Oct 15, 2009 7:43 AM

    There is no way that the NFL could let Rush Limbaugh, who has made inflaming statements about African Americans, take an ownership share in a league of which 70 percent is African American. Whether Rush believes in his rhetoric or it is just “entertainment” as he likes to claim, is immaterial. The league cannot afford to have a situatiuon where particular owners may be boycotted by some players.

  164. chapnasty says: Oct 15, 2009 8:24 AM

    Good morning Florio, racist leftists, and everyone else.
    @ Madd
    I do know what it’s like to be discriminated against. I watched a black man get a job I applied for because he was black. I had more experience, more education and was far more qualified. The hiring guy was black and the candidate was black. So you are right I do not know what it is like to be a black man or woman but I do know what racism is all about.
    Look it’s obvious that none of us are going to convince each other that either of is right (huh?) So let’s end it. This website has been used for hateful speach too much in the last week. We aren’t mad at each other, we are mad at the system (whatever system you might be against). I’ve said it before, all of us would sit around and drink beer together and watch football and have a great time because that is what brings us to this site. Not this political crap. Florio, screw the haters, this was football news and it had to be published, just wish you didn’t put your spin on it. Like I said before, this goes beyond Limbaugh. Quote me on this, this is a very small snowball at the top of a very steep hill. Have a great day football fans!

  165. DL says: Oct 15, 2009 8:38 AM

    rush will probably blame this on everyone but himself, the pompous ass that he is. it was his own fat mouth that lost him this bid. he likes to say that he’s just an entertainer so he can say whatever he wants in order to be shocking and get more viewers and make more money. it is a free speech society we live in, but words have consequences, especially stupid and untrue words like he says every single day on his show.

  166. skf727 says: Oct 15, 2009 8:44 AM

    >>1. Since when is “controversial” code for “conservative.” That doesn’t even make sense. Are you seriously arguing Limbaugh isn’t controversial?
    Rush is only “controversial” because his opinions differ with the mainstream media yet seem to resonate with a good many Americans. I would venture that 80% of the people making negative comments on this topic have never even listened to one Limbaugh show and are just parroting what they heard on CNN, MSNBC, Letterman, Jon Stewart, etc etc.
    >>2. The point I was addressing was that the quotations in question had been designed for the specific purpose of obstructed Rush’s ownership bid. To which it is clear that since they existed for a long period of time prior to the bid, they could not have been expressly made for purpose of obstructed the bid. This should be self-evident.
    So it is Rush’s responsiblity to monitor Wikiquotes and challenge every falsehood attributed to him? Get real. He has better things to do. How about this? The powers that be at WikiQuotes should self-monitor and when someone posts something that seems off they should strike it themselves.
    Media Matters and similar organizations monitor Rush’s show for EXACTLY the kind of quotes that surfaced here. Use your brain. If Rush had actually said any of those quotes do you think he would still be on the air?!?!
    They bounced Dog Chapman for dropping an n-bomb or two on a personal phone call and Dog has no where near as powerful enemies that Rush has.
    You still seem to be willing to gloss over what really happened here.
    1. Nutjob with ax to grind completely fabricates inflammatory Limbaugh quotes sometime in 2005 (by best guess) and posts them in WikiQuotes.
    2. In late 2009, Rush Limbaugh announces he is part of an ownership group attempting to buy the St. Louis Rams.
    3. For whatever reason, the mainstream media cares that Rush wants to buy an NFL team and goes into “research” mode to undermine his efforts.
    4. Since the extent of what passes for “research” these days consists of going to Wikipedia and regurgitating what is on there- the mainstream media circulates the fabricated quotes as fact and a real shitstorm ensues.
    5. The ownership group drops Rush.
    Here is what will happen next-
    1. All of the media outlets who so gleefully reported the quotes as fact will all issue serial apologies over the next few days.
    2. Rush will file the mother of all libel suits against CNN and Rick Sanchez personally. MSNBC, ESPN
    If you are going to go to war with powerful people, the blowback can be devastating (see Spitzer, Eliot).
    >>3. Nice resort to insults. But I’ll rise above and address your underlying point anyway. What I did was take the criterion by which something can be considered defamation and show how by using that criterion Rush’s overall reputation, that he gained in twenty years, can be a more influential determinant of people’s judgment of his character than a couple throw away quotes.
    Rise above it? You did nothing courageous here. What you did is willingly lap up falsehoods because they fit your narrative. That makes you a coward first and a fool second for knowing you’ve been lied to and still believing it because it just “seemed” right. In fact, you seem to take pride in the fact that even if the quotes were lies “…that there was a reasonable and in good faith reason to believe that they were statements that could have been made by Rush.”
    BigOldDog said it best. “Fake but accurate” is the last gasp of a scoundrel.
    If you don’t like Rush, that is fine. That is what America is all about- differing opinions.
    However, what this episode spells out is that some opinions- even though those opinions are mainstream enough to make that person so wealthy that he can even consider owning a football team- are not acceptable. That is SCARY!
    >>4. Wow, way to make assumptions. As for Augusta National I’ve actually already addressed this on a different thread, and indirectly in this thread. I believe in the constitution and the derived right of freedom of association. The PGA has a right to freely choose whatever golf courses it wants to, using any criteria it wants to. And the golf club has the right to freedom of association. It’s really that clear. There is no ambiguity there.
    Finally! We agree on something. If the NFL owners don’t want Limbaugh to be an owner that is their perogative as a PRIVATE organization. However, I simply don’t think that Limbaugh’s presence as a limited partner in a group that would keep the Rams in St. Louis would have mattered had these fake quotes not been given credence and the NFL did what it had to do and circle the wagons.
    Further questions to ponder- Why do we even know that Limbaugh was part of the Checketts group? Why was this information leaked in the first place?

  167. VoxUcker says: Oct 15, 2009 8:47 AM

    “# TW says: October 14, 2009 11:12 PM
    So it’s OK that Dan Rooney mixes sports and politics– because he’s for Obama.
    Such hyprocrisy…”
    So now you’re going to compare Dan Rooney with Rush Limbaugh?
    Such mind-numbing stupidity…

  168. VoxUcker says: Oct 15, 2009 8:51 AM

    “# Electrogasm says: October 15, 2009 4:19 AM
    chapnasty –
    Thank you for so eloquently stating the truth about the current situation in American society so I don’t have to. The truth hurts and so many of these mindless, spineless libs/progressives are feeling the pain of your words at the moment…”
    Hey chapnasty.
    It doesn’t count when you change your screen name and come back and reply to yourself.

  169. skf727 says: Oct 15, 2009 8:58 AM

    @Dale
    >>The league cannot afford to have a situatiuon where particular owners may be boycotted by some players.
    Good point. Most of these guys can find other jobs paying $5mm/yr no problem. They aren’t exactly bargaining from a position of strength with only 32 potential employers eliminating one or two because of philosophical differences with a minority owner is silly.
    Even Steven A. Smith called BS on this one.
    Remember these are the same players that when negotiating a contract always say “It’s not about the money” and yet inevitably end up signing a contract that pays them the most.
    But you think that just because Limbaugh was going to be a part owner of the Rams that players would sign less lucrative contracts and play elsewhere?!?!?
    I said it before- Money talks, BS masquerading as principles walks

  170. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 9:01 AM

    @Electrogasm
    “We are the majority and it’s time that we rise up and stop the downward spiral.”
    _____________________________________
    So tell me, how did your majority work out for you in the 2008 elections?

  171. Evan says: Oct 15, 2009 9:13 AM

    Being politically correct isn’t being liberal or conservative, it’s being everything to everyone.
    Goodell doens’t want contraversy and thus is opposed to having Rush Limbaugh or Harry Reid or anyone contraversial being an owner or part owner of a franchise.
    Freedom of speech is irrelevant. Goodell is opposed to having Rush as an owner because he sees the potential for the league making less money due to a potential lack of ticket sales and possible protests and boycotts of Ram products. This is all about the bottom line and Rush presents a danger to that.
    Football is one of the rare things that both liberals and conservatives LOVE. The moment you infuse politics into it, you risk alienating one side and losing money. Goodell is a smart businessman evidenced by the continued monetary success of the NFL.
    The reason NFL franchises aren’t open to the highest bidder is because every franchise has a stake in the collective success of the league. If some crazy owner buys a team and pisses off the country so that no one wants to see said team, that means that whenever the team goes on the road, other teams will lose ticket sales. Under the revenue agreements, that team will become a hinderance to the rest of the league. With the stakes in the hundreds of millions, its no wonder that potential franchisees are evaluated under a microscope.
    Most owners are probably cold-hearted Republicans but they’re (usually) smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

  172. Dale says: Oct 15, 2009 9:19 AM

    @skf727
    >>>They aren’t exactly bargaining from a position of strength with only 32 potential employers eliminating one or two because of philosophical differences with a minority owner is silly.

  173. Gene Smith says: Oct 15, 2009 9:26 AM

    Let’s look at the facts. The First Amement still applies in America, even to Rush. So then, Vick, a convicted felon allowed back in the NFL, Limbaugh convicted of nothing out of the NFL.
    I’m glad the NFL has such deep pockets for the legal action to follow, as the there is clearly a double standard here.
    Commissioner Rush will own the league soon enough…Be very careful for what you ask for.

  174. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 9:31 AM

    # Roboto says: October 15, 2009 4:55 AM
    Why aren’t some of you right-wing loonies in Iraq right now fighting Bush/Cheney’s lie of a war?
    Well, Limbaugh dodged his generation’s war. I guess you really do want to be just like him.
    Dittoheads indeed!
    ****
    Maybe it has escaped you that President Obama is the Commander in Chief now and not only is he keeping troops there, he’s increasing troop levels in neighboring Afghanistan. So, using your own infantile logic, shouldn’t you be on your way to Afghanistan right now?

  175. skf727 says: Oct 15, 2009 9:37 AM

    >>Dale
    The NFL has a tight salary cap. Your argument would work in baseball (very loose cap) but not in football. That is the beauty of the league and explains why so many teams go from worst to first and back again.
    Terrell Owens is in Buffalo for chrissakes. Never has a bigger name gone to a smaller market.

  176. Steeler4life says: Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM

    Great News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  177. effs420 says: Oct 15, 2009 10:11 AM

    StrengthOfFates says:
    October 14, 2009 7:59 PM
    I think it’s hilarious how tightly you are all stuck to the teets of your respective parties. Who, by the way, are made up of a bunch of crooks. You do things like fabricating vile quotes and attributing them to anyone you oppose. You fall at the feet of shit-stirrers like Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Keith Olberman, and people who consistently feed you lies and half-truths like Michael Moore. You’re all retarded, and I hate you.
    ——————————————
    ^THIS…for the love of all that is holy and unholy, THIS.
    thank you strengthoffates, for expressing what most of us with working brains inside our skulls are feeling about all these retarded sheep

  178. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 10:21 AM

    My God, you dittoheads are stupid at best.
    There will be NO legal action against the NFL. The ownership group dropped Rush, not the NFL. Lets pretend that the owners did vote to reject Rush……SO WHAT! They have the right to reject ANY potential owner for ANY reason, in fact, they don’t have to state a reason, they can just say no!
    The same thing goes for an ownership group. They have the right to accept or reject anyone for any reason, period. What makes this so special is that the ownership group are REPUBLICANS! Of course, you won’t hear Rush talk about that this morning. He will be too busy blaming everyone else for his problems, once again playing the victim!

  179. meezle says: Oct 15, 2009 10:48 AM

    “I’m glad the NFL has such deep pockets for the legal action to follow, as the there is clearly a double standard here.”
    There is definitely a double standard here but, a player like Mike Vick is 1 in a million. Rush, while incredibly rich, can be replaced by another wealthy investor and you would never know the difference.
    This is the way I see it, the players bring you $, ie Mike Vick/Donovan McNabb/Peyton Manning, brings the league $, through endorsements that bring the league more exposure and such. The players need to be happy to keep the product good and the league making $. The owners like said $, with unhappy players, as they would be playing for and in a league that has Rush as an owner the product goes sour decreasing $. Why bring in someone who could have such a negative impact when you don’t have too?
    Also, how do you think people oversees view Rush’s politics? It’s obvious that the NFL is trying to go international, so why would they jeopardize that by bringing in Rush if they don’t have too?
    The only race that matters here is the $ sign.

  180. mikeyaz17 says: Oct 15, 2009 10:49 AM

    The owner’s association is nothing more that a group of wealthy capitalists who made a cold hard business decision, exactly what Rush promotes each and every day.
    Isn’t it interesting that the very altar at which Rush worships chose to reject his sacrifice and now he is doing precisely what he criticizes and lambasts the liberal left for doing: whining. Take your own advice rush, suck it up and move on.

  181. KeepDaNFLnSTL says: Oct 15, 2009 10:50 AM

    Hey “BigOl’ Dog”… go OD on the Obama kool-aid on your own time. Don’t start with your “Obama is the calvary coming to our rescue” by sending a few more troops to Afgan… The US commander in Afgan. and reps on both sides of the isle were asking for at least 30,000 more troops and he’s sending LESS than 15,000. He is scrapping the missle defense system in Europe that will now expose all of the lesser European and Middle Eastern countries to missles from Russian and Iran. He’s turning his back on Israel and trying to rationalize with the Palestinians, and don’t be such a CLUELESS bleeding heart liberal and say that bringing back the “don’t ask don’t tell” is a really good thing. I’m a 20 year member of the United States Military and thank goodness that I have the military bearing to respect the POSITION of POTUS and not then person holding the office, ‘cuz, respecting the man, just ain’t gonna happen.
    Sit in your comfy little lair high up on your moutain, drink your bottled water and drive your Prius and just mouth off when you think it’s really “sheik” to wax philosphically about Obama, when over 50% of the country knows that he’s a joke.
    Yes, I am a member of the right wing, but I DO NOT LIKE Limbaugh. He lost his media usefulness about 15 years ago and I can’t remember the last time that I listened to anything he’s said, but the NFL and some of the players putting the screws on him because of a few dumb*$$ comments is completely hypocritical. Here is a link with a listing of NFL players that had criminal records either during their NFL players or after their career ended… (http://www.thephatphree.com/features.asp?StoryID=850&SectionID=2)
    and they that list didn’t even include: Mike Vick, Matt Jones, Plaxico Burress, Leonard Little, Tom Cable, Donte Stallworth, Braylon Edwards (who was WITH Stallworth the night that he got wasted before getting into his car…), Pacman Jones, Steve Foley, Chris Henry… do I really need to continue? And almost ALL of those players are still playing this game and making millions. When hasn’t the NFL GLADLY take someone’s $$ when they’re willing to give it up? ESPN and the rest of the “living in a bubble” politically correct media bashing of Limbaugh is a real joke. We’ll let a murderer keep playing in the NFL and we’ll IMMORTALIZE him and call him a role model, but when some stupid comments are made, all of a sudden $$ coming from a potential silent partner trying to keep an NFL team in one of the smaller NFL markets is NO GOOD to the NFL. Just admit it Roger Choad-ell, send the Rams back to LA where you want them. The NFL never really wanted to send another team to STL anyway. The Rams will be out of STL when their lease expires in 2 or three years anyway. Choad-ell you’ll get the same wish that your predecessor Tags wanted.
    Grow up.

  182. E_DA _ MAn says: Oct 15, 2009 11:02 AM

    The NFL is a franchise business, just like McDonalds is a franchise business. Anyone that the franchisor decides is unfit to represent the parent business is simply NOT QUALIFIED to become a franchisee. This is America, what don’t you rabies infected conservatives understand about that?
    Since when is having a differing point of view mean you’re not qualified?
    People on both sides need to realize how dangerous this is…the pendulum swings both ways and liberals will be on the receiving end of recrimination again…..freedom must be for all.

  183. effs420 says: Oct 15, 2009 11:12 AM

    KeepDaNFLnSTL says:
    October 15, 2009 10:50 AM
    Hey “BigOl’ Dog”… go OD on the Obama kool-aid on your own time. Don’t start with your “Obama is the calvary coming to our rescue” by sending a few more troops to Afgan…
    ——————————————
    did you even read his posts? any of them? completely read them?
    cus there is no way he is OD’ing on the obama kool-aid…in fact he is probably on your side in this argument…he inserted statements from other people in his posts to counter-point them. are you so stupid that you didn’t understand this from his mutlitude of posts?
    you need to work on your reading comprehension…you’re so full of “righteuous indignation” that you responded too quickly without actually comprehending what you read.
    congratulations, you are an idiot and now we all know it.

  184. effs420 says: Oct 15, 2009 11:22 AM

    “Sit in your comfy little lair high up on your moutain, drink your bottled water and drive your Prius and just mouth off when you think it’s really “sheik” to wax philosphically about Obama, when over 50% of the country knows that he’s a joke.”
    ————————————–
    by the way, hyperbole like this just undermines what you’re trying to say and makes you look even more stupid…
    for future reference anyway…

  185. Phantom 1 says: Oct 15, 2009 11:47 AM

    The Republican theme has been: I challenge anyone to say they heard Limbaugh say anything racist.
    OK, hear goes…
    1. Limbaugh supported the SC Republican Party’s efforts to keep the Conferedate Battle Flag flying on the Capital State Grounds in Columbia (but Repubs say he’s not racist).
    2. He fully supported Joe Wilson’s “You Lie” outburst. Joe Wilson is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and also rallied the SC Repubs to keep the Conferedate Battle Flag flying (but Repubs say neither men are racist).
    3. Limbaugh was fired from ESPN because of his skin color comments about McNabb in 2003 (but Repubs say he’s not racist).
    4. Per Limbaugh, only conservative talk radio and Fox news are the only media outlets telling the truth about anything. Let’s see, no minorities whatsoever on talk radio (Limbaugh, Beck, Savage – all white), and Hannity leads the charge on Fox (but Repubs say none of them are racist either).
    5. Limbaugh said on his radio show that there were some good qualities concerning salvery in the Old South (but Repubs say he’s not racist).
    6. Limbaugh calls Democrats and anyone else who does not agree with him, even moderate Repubs, “Stalinist, Communists, Marxists, Terrorists, etc.” and would have no issue if the U.S. was under one-party rule, so long as it was Conservative (Repubs call that true Patriotism).
    For all you Repubs who worship Limbaugh and say the country is headed to the toliet under the current administration… it’s not to late, Canada and Mexico are still accepting green card applications.

  186. Detroiter says: Oct 15, 2009 12:22 PM

    Phantom 1 says:
    October 15, 2009 11:47 AM
    The Republican theme has been: I challenge anyone to say they heard Limbaugh say anything racist.
    OK, hear goes…
    ——————————————–
    Bwwaahahaha….you should have looked up definition of racist. What public school did you go to? Typical lib…because he *criticizes* he is therefore racist…

  187. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 12:31 PM

    Phantom 1 says: October 15, 2009 11:47 AM
    The Republican theme has been: I challenge anyone to say they heard Limbaugh say anything racist.
    OK, hear goes…
    1. Limbaugh supported the SC Republican Party’s efforts to keep the Conferedate Battle Flag flying on the Capital State Grounds in Columbia (but Repubs say he’s not racist).
    2. He fully supported Joe Wilson’s “You Lie” outburst. Joe Wilson is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and also rallied the SC Repubs to keep the Conferedate Battle Flag flying (but Repubs say neither men are racist).
    3. Limbaugh was fired from ESPN because of his skin color comments about McNabb in 2003 (but Repubs say he’s not racist).
    4. Per Limbaugh, only conservative talk radio and Fox news are the only media outlets telling the truth about anything. Let’s see, no minorities whatsoever on talk radio (Limbaugh, Beck, Savage – all white), and Hannity leads the charge on Fox (but Repubs say none of them are racist either).
    5. Limbaugh said on his radio show that there were some good qualities concerning salvery in the Old South (but Repubs say he’s not racist).
    6. Limbaugh calls Democrats and anyone else who does not agree with him, even moderate Repubs, “Stalinist, Communists, Marxists, Terrorists, etc.” and would have no issue if the U.S. was under one-party rule, so long as it was Conservative (Repubs call that true Patriotism).
    For all you Repubs who worship Limbaugh and say the country is headed to the toliet under the current administration… it’s not to late, Canada and Mexico are still accepting green card applications.
    _________________________________
    Phantom, I hope I am not the first to say this, but Thank you for your post. Outstanding points!

  188. chapnasty says: Oct 15, 2009 12:37 PM

    @ Phanton
    Your points are “phantom” meaning they dont exist… here you go fool….
    1. Limbaugh and some conservatives see the Confederate flag as historically significant. Unfortunately some people see it as a symbol of racism. While I can respect that argument it isn’t true. In this theory, the only American flag we can fly is the current one. This one is touchy but I will give you a draw on this one.
    2. He supported the “you lie” because Obama lied. Simple as that. The fact of what Wilson is affiliated with is irrelevant in Rush’s support of his right to say it. I win this one.
    3. Limbaughs statement was not racist at all. It was an attack at the meida and the media got mad and he was fired. Read some of the earlier comments and those of us smarter than you have already explained this to you and your fellow idiots. I win this one
    4. A PEW research poll found that Fox news is the least biased news station. They did this by comparing the ration of positive stories on the administration to negative ones. MSNBC was found to be the most biased, towards Obama and the administration. Obviously you don’t watch Fox because there are several black commentators on the network. But let’s say you are right here. I dont see any Black hosted shows on MSNBC, CNN or NPR. I win again.
    5. He never said this quote. This has been proved wrong. I win again.
    6. He is right, since he is a Capitalist and Obama is clearly as Socialist if not Communist or at least the person pulling his strings are. I win
    so all in all final score is 5-0-1 and the finding is that you are an idiot.

  189. Abe Froeman says: Oct 15, 2009 2:05 PM

    @ TheBigOldDog
    Again with the insults, huh? Says a lot about you that you can’t respond with resorting insults.
    And typically, you didn’t understand one things I said.
    The point was that Rush’s reputation has developed over a period of twenty years. One or two quotations that may or may not have been falsely attributed to him pale in the influence of people’s opinion of him than the totality of his statements over twenty years.
    The fact of matter is that he was ultimately removed from the group because it was decided he was bad for their business.

  190. Abe Froeman says: Oct 15, 2009 3:21 PM

    @ skf727
    Well well, another guy who can’t respond to me without resorting insults. I’m starting to notice a trend here.
    But again I’ll look past your inability to articulate your thoughts without making ad hominem attacks, and directly address your response in the numerical fashion I did prior.
    1. Rush is controversial. Any notion that this is a debatable statement comes from self-delusions.
    2. That is not what I indicated in the slightest. What I said was that it is self-evident that the quotations in question were not developed as part of a conspiracy to derail this ownership bid. Again, this is not debatable.
    3. Ah, this is where you got a little testy, and couldn’t help but insult me. What you missed in your misguided rant against me is that I was never referring to myself or my own beliefs. What I was doing was showing you some of the legal criteria for defamation, and demonstrating how a person, any random person, acting in good faith could reasonably believe that the quotations, which were widely attributed to Limbaugh, were actually said by Limbaugh, and that thus they could not be sued for defamation as specifically related to the ownership bid.
    4. And you finally see that I was never arguing on behalf of my beliefs, I was always arguing on the side of the constitution and the law. But you did have one throw away comment here that you believed the two quotations in question were the sole reason Limbaugh was removed from the group. Such a view is simply willful ignorance of the fact that Limbaugh’s reputation is a representation of the past twenty years of his work and is the same with or without those quotations. It has developed over the last twenty years on the basis of the overall sentiment of his ideas. The man has been on the air for twenty years and people had developed their opinion of him well before this week.

  191. coaltrain says: Oct 15, 2009 5:21 PM

    Sadly i have a feeling it will not be to much longer before the NFL will be considerd the NBA in cleats.
    What a shame to let such a proud league be reduced to this.
    Al Sharpton getting the ear of the Commish is a dark moment in NFL history.

  192. mad555 says: Oct 15, 2009 5:26 PM

    @ chapnasty :
    Forgive me if I don’t believe you, but even if that was true, you will be hired 9 out of 10 time for the same job anywhere else. You know why? Because the person hiring is white and so are you. Unless you are an asshole, which you are clearly showing to be, How do you know that the Black person that was hired over you was not more qualified? Did you see his qualifications? I don’t think so. What you just said in your response happens to minorities 10 times more then people like yourself, I’m not talking about intelligent people, I’m talking about white people. I will ask you again, So do you think as soon as African Americans were released from slavery they had equal rights or opportunity to prosper in America? If not, then when did black people start to get a fair shake from white people in this country?

  193. meezle says: Oct 15, 2009 9:04 PM

    # mikeyaz17 says: October 15, 2009 10:49 AM
    The owner’s association is nothing more that a group of wealthy capitalists who made a cold hard business decision, exactly what Rush promotes each and every day.
    Isn’t it interesting that the very altar at which Rush worships chose to reject his sacrifice and now he is doing precisely what he criticizes and lambasts the liberal left for doing: whining. Take your own advice rush, suck it up and move on.
    Hands down the best response on here about this subject

  194. TRAMO says: Oct 15, 2009 11:00 PM

    MAD is what is known as a wiger

  195. coaltrain says: Oct 16, 2009 4:55 PM

    @Tramo
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
    outstanding reply!

  196. Ravens#1fan says: Oct 19, 2009 11:04 AM

    Good – can we now get back to football!

  197. God's Own Silver and Blue says: Nov 11, 2009 12:22 PM

    Pity. One good thing about Limpballs being an owner would have been that the trainers would have never run out of painkillers in the medicine cabinet.

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