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DeAngelo Hall questions the Redskins' depth, talent

Redskins cornerback Carlos Rogers recently suggested that blame for the current state of the Redskins “starts with ownership.”

Washington cornerback DeAngelo Hall has gotten more specific.  And in his effort to push some of the blame away from coach Jim Zorn, Hall has not-so-gracefully nudged it toward the upper reaches of the organization.

“I think a lot of people made the comment, ‘[Zorn's] not out there
playing in the games,’” Hall said Wednesday, according to Jason Reid of the Washington Post.  “That’s the truth of the matter.  If
you want to blame someone, look at the film.  Look at the guys who are
out there trying to play.  We haven’t been doing a great job, bottom
line, we haven’t been doing a great job.  I think the blame lies with
us. I think the blame lies with us. I think we’re the ones out there
playing every day, practicing, trying to do the right thing, but I
don’t know if we’ve got the right personnel here to do it
.”

Frankly, we think the personnel is just fine.  If they would maxmize their talents and play as a team, they wouldn’t be 2-3.  And the blame in this regard rests with the coach.

Hall specifically complained about the lack of depth.  “You can always have proven guys out there backing
other guys up that have played in this league, have had starts in this
league. That’s something we’re lacking.”

Specifically, Hall pointed to the replacement of injured left tackle Chris Samuels with D’Anthony Batiste as “a big drop-off, that’s a big drop-off.”

But maybe they wouldn’t be lacking in depth if Hall had taken less than $23 million guaranteed in February.  That way, the Redskins would have had more cash and cap space available to acquire better personnel at key backup positions.

Then again, maybe the decision to give Hall that huge contract is all the evidence we need to conclude that, when it comes to personnel decisions, the Redskins really don’t know what they’re doing.

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  1. VoxVeritas says: Oct 15, 2009 8:43 AM

    Jacques Reeves questions DeAngelo Hall’s depth, talent.

  2. dmackerman says: Oct 15, 2009 8:43 AM

    I like DeAngelo. We definitely overpaid him, but he’s the only player on our defense that’s actually making plays, and until he stops doing that, he can say whatever the hell he wants.
    And he’s right. We lack serious depth at key positions and that IS the FA’s fault.
    But seriously, that tackle on DelHomme was an embarrassment. At least he owned up to it.

  3. AutumnWind999 says: Oct 15, 2009 8:45 AM

    “But maybe they wouldn’t be lacking in depth if Hall had taken less than $23 million guaranteed in February. That way, the Redskins would have had more cash and cap space available to acquire better personnel at key backup positions.”
    ————-
    I’m no MeAngelo fan at all, but are you 12, Florio? You want a pro football player, someone with a short career and probably few skills outside of playing football, to take less money than a team is willing to give him so they maybe can go out and sign an additional veteran player or two?
    The only way you could make an argument like that is if someone like Peyton Manning held out for $50 million per year from the Colts (which is really not that far out of the realm of possibility of what they would have to consider paying to keep him if he wanted every penny) and then complaining about veteran depth on the roster.
    MeAngelo’s contract is silly because he’s not a very good player and was exposed as such in his time in Oakland. But he should get what he can from a league whose ownership holds players who are grossly underpaid to the terms of their contracts, but will turn around a cut a guy who is underperforming on theirs.
    I’ll give you a pass since it’s so early and assume you’re still groggy.

  4. homercles82 says: Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM

    Florio, you know nothing about the Redskins. They avoided the offensive line and d-line for years and when they do make a splash they get Chad Rhinehart (busto) or Fat Albert.
    They cannot make the right decisions and Snyderatto think they can make the team good by plugging “stars” are only a few positions instead of getting good overall talent at a majority of positions.

  5. raybin says: Oct 15, 2009 8:46 AM

    Hall should be forced to look at the film of his attempted “tackle” of Jake Delhomme and then ask himself about lack of talent.

  6. VoxVeritas says: Oct 15, 2009 8:47 AM

    I think the Deadskins main problem is that clueless mediots that should probably be commenting on golf keep overrating them.
    “Then again, maybe the decision to give Hall that huge contract is all the evidence we need to conclude that, when it comes to personnel decisions, the Redskins really don’t know what they’re doing.”
    Or maybe you could have caught that clue at the same time as everyone else in the civilized world when they did the same with Archuleta, Randle El, etc.

  7. neight says: Oct 15, 2009 8:49 AM

    “I think the blame lies with Florio…I think the blame lies with Florio. He picked us to be the suprise team, he picked us to be the suprise team”
    How that prediction going for ya, Mickey???
    Giants 37 – Aints 24

  8. filthymcnasty says: Oct 15, 2009 8:50 AM

    Goddamn I miss Sean Taylor.

  9. smiley says: Oct 15, 2009 8:53 AM

    The problem is the O-line….it stinks. It was average before Chris Samuels and Randy Thomas were hurt…..now it down right stinks. They’re not good at run blocking or pass blocking…at least be decent in one area! It gives you something to build off of…Cooley had no catches last week because they had to keep him in for blocking. I love Cooley, but he’s a pass catching TE, his blocking is average at best. Hail!

  10. dasboat says: Oct 15, 2009 8:55 AM

    When a bad team in any sport underpays for its roster, you can blame talent. When it is at or near the salary cap, the poor performance is more likely the responsibility of the talent providers and/or the coaches.

  11. Big Stretch says: Oct 15, 2009 9:00 AM

    What a cluster F**K. Zorn obviously wasn’t ready to be a head coach, and only got the job because it was the in thing at the time to bring a QBm coach/coordinator with no experience and make him a head coach. yes it worked for baltimore and miami ( last year) but this has been far from a success. Jason Campbell gets killed in the media, and yet Zorn was supposed to be a QB coach guru. The change coordinators as often as Al Davis changes his diapers, and Clinton Portis doesnt get the ball enough – Washington is just 9-20 when he fails to carry 20 times and since Portis joined the team in 2004, the Redskins are 21-4 when he rushes for at least 100 yards.
    On a side note should Deangleo Hall be critizing anyone’s play? This guy is supposed to be a shut down DB, but all he seems to be is hype. He’s like the defensive KeyShawn, somehow he convinced people he is good without actually being good.

  12. andy z says: Oct 15, 2009 9:09 AM

    Florio, are you on Danny’s payroll? “personnel is just fine”? Are you serious? How many teams had undrafted players playing RT and LT last week? (after Samuels went down) There skill position players are vastly overrated and they’re the oldest team in the league. How does that equate to “just fine”? Is this an attempt to justify your SB pick? C’mon, you’re better than this.

  13. EShine says: Oct 15, 2009 9:09 AM

    “Frankly, we think the personnel is just fine. If they would maxmize their talents and play as a team, they wouldn’t be 2-3. And the blame in this regard rests with the coach.”
    Florio – do you watch the games? Yes – this team has some talent, but its old talent. If these guys were 4 years younger, then you’d have an argument.
    Zorn does deserve his fair share of blame, but the fact remains that this front office signs names to huge contracts and tries to get bargains to fill in the holes. Unfortunately, those holes are on the lines and the opposition just blows through them.
    If you like, we can send someone to act as an extra set of eyes to sit with you during games to discuss which problems are talent and which are coaching.

  14. bake says: Oct 15, 2009 9:13 AM

    The offensive line is offensive…………………………….that’s the problem start to finish. They overpay for alleged stars, and ignore the one thing that they really need. look at the great teams of the past- it always starts with a dominant offensive line.
    Snyder and Cerrato should be fired, then worry about who’s coaching or playing QB.
    So what will they do? Sign Jevon Kearse and let go of Carlos Rogers, fire Zorn and bring in maybe Mike Vick or someone at Qb………………….idiots…………..

  15. Wolfskins says: Oct 15, 2009 9:21 AM

    The problem with the D is on the coaches… they’ve got the individual talent but it’s up to the coaches to put them in positions to succeed. This team can’t stop anyone if their life depends on it. That’s on the coaches.
    Now the O… that’s on the FO. Zorn has wanted to install a WCO from the start. That offense is about getting as many receivers out as possible for the QB to throw to. In the “Midwest CO”, there’s also a strong running game. The only way both of these can happen is if there are BIG guys upfront to allow for 3/4 WR sets and to make holes for the RBs to run through.
    This offseason the coaching staff said the OLine was the biggest reason for the 2-6 end to the season… but what did the FO do? They signed Dockery to replace Kendall (who by the way isn’t on the team right now and is waiting for the FO to call him)…. and nothing else.
    On the D side, they signed the top two D players available in FA and drafted 4 defensive players (out of the 6 draft picks they had) with their first 4 picks.
    Don’t blame Zorn… he was set up to fail.

  16. Hap says: Oct 15, 2009 9:33 AM

    Oops, almost forgot, who do ya think will be the 1st owner that will try to build a quick team out of an uncapped year ? “More fun. More flags. Deep 6 Flags.”

  17. Terry says: Oct 15, 2009 9:34 AM

    “Danny Boy” and Vinny Cerrato have been the laughing stock of the league since they graced us with their presence. With the exception of over paying it’s free agents, they’ve done nothing but brought down a storied franchise.

  18. Lucky5927 says: Oct 15, 2009 9:41 AM

    But maybe they wouldn’t be lacking in depth if Hall had taken less than $23 Million guaranteed in February. That way, the Redskins would have had more cash and cap space available to acquire better personnel at key backup positions.
    ———————————————
    Jesus Florio, it is hard to defend you when you make a statement like that. First of all, it starts up top. Anyone who has followed the Redskins for years knows that they have no depth. They had no depth last year before they signed Haynesworth and resigned Hall. So pointing the finger at Hall for “Accepting” the offer presented to him by Snyder/Vinny makes no sense. Fact is, Snyder has traded pick after pick away over the years. So they lost the opportunity to build depth. They overpaid a number of free-agents over the years (which they are still doing) who have been either busts or past their prime. Thus eliminating much needed cap space. Then Snyder/Vinny hire a QB’s coach, who has never been an offensive coordinator as their head coach. So to me, the blame lies mainly on Snyder and Vinny. Hell, Vinny has been stealing paychecks for years. If he wasn’t Snyder’s personal assistant, he would be gone. But I guess Danny boy needs his coffee and dry-cleaning. Truth is Zorn needs to be fired. He is just not ready to be a head coach. I believe he has potential as a Coordinator down the road, but he still has a lot to learn and experience. And some of the players have stopped playing with heart and determination. It is a sad time to be a Redskins fan. And it is a trickling down effect from the incompetence of the people at the top. AND THAT is why they will never draw a big name coach to clean up that mess. What a shame that a once proud franchise has come down to this. They are not the Raiders of the East Coast, but they are not working on it.

  19. scribebob says: Oct 15, 2009 9:44 AM

    It must be hell in Zorn’s home, waiting for the axe to fall. Imagine the atmosphere. Imagine the conversation. “Well, at least the economic situation is better out there and we might do o.k. on our home sale.” And…”think of the positives; we get to go back and spend time with all of our friends in Seattle again.” Snyder could be humane and go ahead and make the move and let him go. Move up somebody and go through the annual p.r. tomfoolery — sign a couple of aging, over-the-hill “superstars” and declare “our problems are solved.” Oh, yes, buy the services of an out-of-work head coach with a less than sterling resume and say he will lead us back to “where we belong.” (Hint: they are already there.)

  20. HappyBunny says: Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM

    Whoa, whoa, Florio! Saying “Then again, maybe the decision to give Hall that huge contract is all the evidence we need to conclude that, when it comes to personnel decisions, the Redskins really don’t know what they’re doing.” about this crappy team now that is being manifes that they are crappy is cowardly. We all remember that they were your Super Bowl pick.

  21. Cobra Commander says: Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM

    Hey Florio, wouldn’t it be something if DeAngelo Hall was right and you were wrong?!?!

  22. thebootguy says: Oct 15, 2009 9:56 AM

    Wasn’t this guy blown out of Oakland because he stunk??? The Raiders cut him, and he questions somebody elses talent??

  23. MattMoore For 09 says: Oct 15, 2009 10:00 AM

    raybin says:
    October 15, 2009 8:46 AM
    Hall should be forced to look at the film of his attempted “tackle” of Jake Delhomme and then ask himself about lack of talent.
    ————————————————–
    You forgot to mention how Jake carried him for anoother 3 and half yards after that.

  24. BeerBarron says: Oct 15, 2009 10:02 AM

    Im not sure the Skins approach to getting a team together, by FA aquisitions, way works anymore in the NFL.. look at the last several SB champs.. mostly teams built through the draft.. Overpaying players doesnt help either.. The Skins problems starts at the top and works its way throughout the entire organization..

  25. maalea says: Oct 15, 2009 10:12 AM

    DeAnglo Hall is the football version of Typhoid Mary.
    Atlanta, the whole Vick affair. As bad as Oakland is they cut him mid season and now the ‘Skins are circling the bowl.
    If your team signs Hall be prepared for the worst.

  26. stevemcguigan says: Oct 15, 2009 10:15 AM

    God, are these scrubs ever going to be for real again?

  27. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 15, 2009 10:19 AM

    @thebootguy
    Wasn’t this guy blown out of Oakland because he stunk??? The Raiders cut him, and he questions somebody elses talent??
    _______________________________
    The Raiders personell decisions are the only ones in the NFL that are always worse than the Redskins. Hall was cut because he was paid a ton and the defense in Oakland was bad anyways. Hall is a solid cover man, actually can catch an interception (unlike Carlos Rogers) but had issues tackling, just ask Jake Delhomme. And in Halls defense, the Redskins offense was NOT going to tie or win that game with no timeouts. Campbell has NEVER driven down the field to win a game in the fourth quarter, not once. The difference between 2-3 and 4-1 is the O Line, and any Skins fan knows that. It is bad. And we cannot win with a mediocre QB, mediocre WRs, over the hill running back, and no offensive line. But coaching is huge too. We keep running off tackle instead of up the middle behind Rabach and Dockery (the only O Lineman that aren’t worthless). We keep calling stupid plays at the wrong time. Cooley is blocking becuz he can block, unlike Davis and Yoder. But none of it is enough. Every NFC East team has DEs than can rush, and we may only win 6 games this year, maybe. Nice pick Florio, and you picked them after the draft (how do you not notice no offense line like every newspaper and fan in DC noticed…).

  28. Darcy says: Oct 15, 2009 10:25 AM

    I don’t think Zorn is a good coach, but anyone who thinks the Redskins’ “personnel is just fine” isn’t watching the games or has no understanding of football.

  29. Wrathchild says: Oct 15, 2009 10:31 AM

    I’m surprised no one has mentioned Haynesworth’s ridiculous contract. Talk about eating up cash and cap space.

  30. dakotah says: Oct 15, 2009 10:52 AM

    homercles82, how can you claim Florio knows nothing about the Skins? He picked them to go to the Super Bowl. Oh. Kind of proves your point, doesn’t it?

  31. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 15, 2009 10:57 AM

    Bit late to the party again Hall.
    @LaVarArrington Goes Off on Snyder
    John Riggins twitter: “Owner is a loser”
    “There are team specific issues for sure and some individual issues for sure but the owner ultimately is a loser and you can’t fix that”

  32. Wellsee says: Oct 15, 2009 10:58 AM

    I agree with the commenters much more than Florio. The root of the problem is the FO, and it is twofold:
    1) Personnel: They’ve ignored the 5 person unit called an O-line for YEARS. (something like 2 draft picks in 5 years, and highest pick was a 3rd.) It is pretty accepted conventional wisdom that your lines are the base of your units, and if the base is weak, everything built on the base will suffer.
    2) Attracting a good coach. With Synder’s backing of Cerrato, and Cerrato’s horrific track record, why would a good, established coach go to Washington? They know it is a setup to fail. That’s why Zorn got bumped to HC, and that’s why the rumors are swirling that people like Shanahan and Holmgren have conditions that give them control over personnel, which Danny won’t agree to. So they’ll fire Zorn and struggle to find another brand-name HC.
    As a 25+ year Redskin fan, it is infuriating.

  33. nationscapital10 says: Oct 15, 2009 11:00 AM

    Why dou write such nonsense and than go away? People here, including me think you are a moron for thinking the skins have good personnel. What the f are you looking at, you jerk off.
    Campbell-sucks,
    portis-old and overrated,
    moss-see portis,
    randle el-should i even go here,
    thomas/kelly/davis- all taken in 1 draft, all not producing
    samuels-old and oft injured
    cooley-good pass catcher, terrible blocker
    haynesworth-always out of breath, overpaid, only decent def linemen
    smoot/hall/horton/dowdy-haha, what a sad bunch
    The best player on the team is going to be retired in a year or 2..fletcher
    WTF are you talking about you moron

  34. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 15, 2009 11:03 AM

    @Wrathchild
    I’m surprised no one has mentioned Haynesworth’s ridiculous contract. Talk about eating up cash and cap space.
    ________________________________
    I have said it before, and I will say it again. Hayneworths contract is for $60 Million guarenteed (and of course football contracts arent really guarenteed). He will not fulfill that contract to be paid the entire $100 Million. And even, if by some miracle, he stays healthy and productive (hes been pretty good this year), there wont be a cap in 2 years anyways.

  35. I Hustled Earl Haffler says: Oct 15, 2009 11:16 AM

    “I think the Deadskins main problem is that clueless mediots that should probably be commenting on golf keep overrating them.”
    Find one (1) publication who predicted them to have a winning record.
    You are the worst.

  36. AutumnWind999 says: Oct 15, 2009 11:28 AM

    dcfan-1212450 says:
    October 15, 2009 10:19 AM
    The Raiders personell decisions are the only ones in the NFL that are always worse than the Redskins. Hall was cut because he was paid a ton and the defense in Oakland was bad anyways. Hall is a solid cover man, actually can catch an interception (unlike Carlos Rogers) but had issues tackling, just ask Jake Delhomme.
    —————————-
    I’m sorry but any Raiders fan who reads “Hall is a solid cover man,” is going to need oxygen to recover from their out of control laughter.
    First game of the year last season, rookie WR Eddie Royal single-handedly torched Hall for something like 170 yards. It was embarrassing. It wasn’t one or two big catches. It was Hall getting burned on just about every play for a first-down pickup. And it wasn’t a one game aberration. Hall was the weak link week after week on Oakland’s D and the coverage improved dramatically when Chris Johnson took over opposite Nnamdi.
    Hall was picked apart so badly that the Raiders had to cut their losses and dump him after 8 games and let go of the $8 million he was guaranteed.
    The reality is the Raiders ask their corners to play straight man coverage 99% of the time. Lack of coverage skills can be covered up in a zone scheme. When you play man to man all the time it shows when you can’t cover.
    Funny thing is Shanahan (AKA the next coach of the Redskins) must have known Hall couldn’t cover in a man to man sceheme because his strategy from Down 1 in that 2008 opening game was to go after Hall. Interesting to see how long MeAngelo is on the ‘Skins roster after Shanahan lands in D.C.

  37. mwcarolina says: Oct 15, 2009 11:47 AM

    first off, people need to quit bashing DeAngelo Hall, he has grown up so far in Washington, but in this case, he is right, our depth at offensive line sucks, first off Hoyer is a backup and he is starting, Mike Williams has no business starting, yet he is starting, we dont know what Chad Rinehart brings to the table and Levi Jones is still out there to sign and the Redskins havent even called him.

  38. Howie Feltersnatch says: Oct 15, 2009 1:15 PM

    “The Raiders personell decisions are the only ones in the NFL that are always worse than the Redskins.”
    No…for the last 19 years, that designation has been the Bengals.

  39. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:26 PM

    @AutumnWind999
    You may be right in the sense that Hall was very poor in coverage skills in Oakland. And as a Raiders fan, can you tell me anyone on that team really plays inspired? But as a Redskins, he has been our best DB. He can catch the ball, something our other DBs cant do, and he has done a solid job covering. Do remember though, a pass rush is equally important to a DBs cover skills. Give a QB all day, and he picks you apart. Overall though as a Redskins, Hall has been good. He just cant tackle. Damn you Jake Delhomme for embarrassing him!!!!

  40. Play4Blood says: Oct 15, 2009 2:06 PM

    “Then again, maybe the decision to give Hall that huge contract is all the evidence we need to conclude that, when it comes to personnel decisions, the Redskins really don’t know what they’re doing.”
    That pretty much sums it up right there.

  41. Beezer says: Oct 15, 2009 2:59 PM

    Hall is the most overrated cornerback in the NFL. Every year he has several interceptions but that it because he takes way too many chances and is burned more than most cornerbacks. Also, he is a terrible tackler look back to week one on Mario Manningham’s sideline touchdown. All Hall had to do was bump him out of bounce but he completely ran in front of Manningham and just tried to slap him out of bounce. He must have been talking about himself when criticizing the personnel moves. I would feel sorry for skins fans if they weren’t such ignorant homers.

  42. Ocelot138 says: Oct 15, 2009 5:29 PM

    So tell us again how the Redskins are going to the SuperBowl, Florio…

  43. Hovenaut says: Oct 15, 2009 10:04 PM

    Tell you what, DH, you put a little more focus towards your on field effort and maybe down the road you can offer your two cents. Guy has had a couple of moments in the year he’s been in D.C. and he’s taken over as resident spokesman?
    Wasn’t that long ago you were laughed out of Oakland for getting toasted weekly. Shut your hole and learn to tackle. Thanks for punctuating the fact that most of the Redskins are so full of themselves, and think they play well enough to speak provocatively. Stop and look around, fellas. Truth is, the lot of you lack talent. And/or the brains to know it. What a joke.

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