Comments on: DeAngelo Hall questions the Redskins' depth, talent

By: Hovenaut

Hovenaut — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:04:32 +0000

Tell you what, DH, you put a little more focus towards your on field effort and maybe down the road you can offer your two cents. Guy has had a couple of moments in the year he’s been in D.C. and he’s taken over as resident spokesman?
Wasn’t that long ago you were laughed out of Oakland for getting toasted weekly. Shut your hole and learn to tackle. Thanks for punctuating the fact that most of the Redskins are so full of themselves, and think they play well enough to speak provocatively. Stop and look around, fellas. Truth is, the lot of you lack talent. And/or the brains to know it. What a joke.

By: Ocelot138

Ocelot138 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:29:38 +0000

So tell us again how the Redskins are going to the SuperBowl, Florio…

By: Beezer

Beezer — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:59:06 +0000

Hall is the most overrated cornerback in the NFL. Every year he has several interceptions but that it because he takes way too many chances and is burned more than most cornerbacks. Also, he is a terrible tackler look back to week one on Mario Manningham’s sideline touchdown. All Hall had to do was bump him out of bounce but he completely ran in front of Manningham and just tried to slap him out of bounce. He must have been talking about himself when criticizing the personnel moves. I would feel sorry for skins fans if they weren’t such ignorant homers.

By: Play4Blood

Play4Blood — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:06:08 +0000

“Then again, maybe the decision to give Hall that huge contract is all the evidence we need to conclude that, when it comes to personnel decisions, the Redskins really don’t know what they’re doing.”
That pretty much sums it up right there.

By: dcfan-1212450

dcfan-1212450 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:26:38 +0000

@AutumnWind999
You may be right in the sense that Hall was very poor in coverage skills in Oakland. And as a Raiders fan, can you tell me anyone on that team really plays inspired? But as a Redskins, he has been our best DB. He can catch the ball, something our other DBs cant do, and he has done a solid job covering. Do remember though, a pass rush is equally important to a DBs cover skills. Give a QB all day, and he picks you apart. Overall though as a Redskins, Hall has been good. He just cant tackle. Damn you Jake Delhomme for embarrassing him!!!!

By: Howie Feltersnatch

Howie Feltersnatch — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:15:28 +0000

“The Raiders personell decisions are the only ones in the NFL that are always worse than the Redskins.”
No…for the last 19 years, that designation has been the Bengals.

By: mwcarolina

mwcarolina — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:47:15 +0000

first off, people need to quit bashing DeAngelo Hall, he has grown up so far in Washington, but in this case, he is right, our depth at offensive line sucks, first off Hoyer is a backup and he is starting, Mike Williams has no business starting, yet he is starting, we dont know what Chad Rinehart brings to the table and Levi Jones is still out there to sign and the Redskins havent even called him.

By: AutumnWind999

AutumnWind999 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:28:59 +0000

dcfan-1212450 says:
October 15, 2009 10:19 AM
The Raiders personell decisions are the only ones in the NFL that are always worse than the Redskins. Hall was cut because he was paid a ton and the defense in Oakland was bad anyways. Hall is a solid cover man, actually can catch an interception (unlike Carlos Rogers) but had issues tackling, just ask Jake Delhomme.
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I’m sorry but any Raiders fan who reads “Hall is a solid cover man,” is going to need oxygen to recover from their out of control laughter.
First game of the year last season, rookie WR Eddie Royal single-handedly torched Hall for something like 170 yards. It was embarrassing. It wasn’t one or two big catches. It was Hall getting burned on just about every play for a first-down pickup. And it wasn’t a one game aberration. Hall was the weak link week after week on Oakland’s D and the coverage improved dramatically when Chris Johnson took over opposite Nnamdi.
Hall was picked apart so badly that the Raiders had to cut their losses and dump him after 8 games and let go of the $8 million he was guaranteed.
The reality is the Raiders ask their corners to play straight man coverage 99% of the time. Lack of coverage skills can be covered up in a zone scheme. When you play man to man all the time it shows when you can’t cover.
Funny thing is Shanahan (AKA the next coach of the Redskins) must have known Hall couldn’t cover in a man to man sceheme because his strategy from Down 1 in that 2008 opening game was to go after Hall. Interesting to see how long MeAngelo is on the ‘Skins roster after Shanahan lands in D.C.

By: I Hustled Earl Haffler

I Hustled Earl Haffler — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:16:57 +0000

“I think the Deadskins main problem is that clueless mediots that should probably be commenting on golf keep overrating them.”
Find one (1) publication who predicted them to have a winning record.
You are the worst.

By: dcfan-1212450

dcfan-1212450 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:03:50 +0000

@Wrathchild
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Haynesworth’s ridiculous contract. Talk about eating up cash and cap space.
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I have said it before, and I will say it again. Hayneworths contract is for $60 Million guarenteed (and of course football contracts arent really guarenteed). He will not fulfill that contract to be paid the entire $100 Million. And even, if by some miracle, he stays healthy and productive (hes been pretty good this year), there wont be a cap in 2 years anyways.

By: nationscapital10

nationscapital10 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:00:40 +0000

Why dou write such nonsense and than go away? People here, including me think you are a moron for thinking the skins have good personnel. What the f are you looking at, you jerk off.
Campbell-sucks,
portis-old and overrated,
moss-see portis,
randle el-should i even go here,
thomas/kelly/davis- all taken in 1 draft, all not producing
samuels-old and oft injured
cooley-good pass catcher, terrible blocker
haynesworth-always out of breath, overpaid, only decent def linemen
smoot/hall/horton/dowdy-haha, what a sad bunch
The best player on the team is going to be retired in a year or 2..fletcher
WTF are you talking about you moron

By: Wellsee

Wellsee — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:58:18 +0000

I agree with the commenters much more than Florio. The root of the problem is the FO, and it is twofold:
1) Personnel: They’ve ignored the 5 person unit called an O-line for YEARS. (something like 2 draft picks in 5 years, and highest pick was a 3rd.) It is pretty accepted conventional wisdom that your lines are the base of your units, and if the base is weak, everything built on the base will suffer.
2) Attracting a good coach. With Synder’s backing of Cerrato, and Cerrato’s horrific track record, why would a good, established coach go to Washington? They know it is a setup to fail. That’s why Zorn got bumped to HC, and that’s why the rumors are swirling that people like Shanahan and Holmgren have conditions that give them control over personnel, which Danny won’t agree to. So they’ll fire Zorn and struggle to find another brand-name HC.
As a 25+ year Redskin fan, it is infuriating.

By: SmackMyVickUp

SmackMyVickUp — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:57:45 +0000

Bit late to the party again Hall.
@LaVarArrington Goes Off on Snyder
John Riggins twitter: “Owner is a loser”
“There are team specific issues for sure and some individual issues for sure but the owner ultimately is a loser and you can’t fix that”

By: dakotah

dakotah — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:52:14 +0000

homercles82, how can you claim Florio knows nothing about the Skins? He picked them to go to the Super Bowl. Oh. Kind of proves your point, doesn’t it?

By: Wrathchild

Wrathchild — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:31:13 +0000

I’m surprised no one has mentioned Haynesworth’s ridiculous contract. Talk about eating up cash and cap space.

By: Darcy

Darcy — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:25:24 +0000

I don’t think Zorn is a good coach, but anyone who thinks the Redskins’ “personnel is just fine” isn’t watching the games or has no understanding of football.

By: dcfan-1212450

dcfan-1212450 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:19:42 +0000

@thebootguy
Wasn’t this guy blown out of Oakland because he stunk??? The Raiders cut him, and he questions somebody elses talent??
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The Raiders personell decisions are the only ones in the NFL that are always worse than the Redskins. Hall was cut because he was paid a ton and the defense in Oakland was bad anyways. Hall is a solid cover man, actually can catch an interception (unlike Carlos Rogers) but had issues tackling, just ask Jake Delhomme. And in Halls defense, the Redskins offense was NOT going to tie or win that game with no timeouts. Campbell has NEVER driven down the field to win a game in the fourth quarter, not once. The difference between 2-3 and 4-1 is the O Line, and any Skins fan knows that. It is bad. And we cannot win with a mediocre QB, mediocre WRs, over the hill running back, and no offensive line. But coaching is huge too. We keep running off tackle instead of up the middle behind Rabach and Dockery (the only O Lineman that aren’t worthless). We keep calling stupid plays at the wrong time. Cooley is blocking becuz he can block, unlike Davis and Yoder. But none of it is enough. Every NFC East team has DEs than can rush, and we may only win 6 games this year, maybe. Nice pick Florio, and you picked them after the draft (how do you not notice no offense line like every newspaper and fan in DC noticed…).

By: stevemcguigan

stevemcguigan — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:15:00 +0000

God, are these scrubs ever going to be for real again?

By: maalea

maalea — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:12:59 +0000

DeAnglo Hall is the football version of Typhoid Mary.
Atlanta, the whole Vick affair. As bad as Oakland is they cut him mid season and now the ‘Skins are circling the bowl.
If your team signs Hall be prepared for the worst.

By: BeerBarron

BeerBarron — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:02:01 +0000

Im not sure the Skins approach to getting a team together, by FA aquisitions, way works anymore in the NFL.. look at the last several SB champs.. mostly teams built through the draft.. Overpaying players doesnt help either.. The Skins problems starts at the top and works its way throughout the entire organization..

By: MattMoore For 09

MattMoore For 09 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:00:50 +0000

raybin says:
October 15, 2009 8:46 AM
Hall should be forced to look at the film of his attempted “tackle” of Jake Delhomme and then ask himself about lack of talent.
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You forgot to mention how Jake carried him for anoother 3 and half yards after that.

By: thebootguy

thebootguy — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:56:27 +0000

Wasn’t this guy blown out of Oakland because he stunk??? The Raiders cut him, and he questions somebody elses talent??

By: Cobra Commander

Cobra Commander — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:52:37 +0000

Hey Florio, wouldn’t it be something if DeAngelo Hall was right and you were wrong?!?!

By: HappyBunny

HappyBunny — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:50:49 +0000

Whoa, whoa, Florio! Saying “Then again, maybe the decision to give Hall that huge contract is all the evidence we need to conclude that, when it comes to personnel decisions, the Redskins really don’t know what they’re doing.” about this crappy team now that is being manifes that they are crappy is cowardly. We all remember that they were your Super Bowl pick.

By: scribebob

scribebob — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:44:40 +0000

It must be hell in Zorn’s home, waiting for the axe to fall. Imagine the atmosphere. Imagine the conversation. “Well, at least the economic situation is better out there and we might do o.k. on our home sale.” And…”think of the positives; we get to go back and spend time with all of our friends in Seattle again.” Snyder could be humane and go ahead and make the move and let him go. Move up somebody and go through the annual p.r. tomfoolery — sign a couple of aging, over-the-hill “superstars” and declare “our problems are solved.” Oh, yes, buy the services of an out-of-work head coach with a less than sterling resume and say he will lead us back to “where we belong.” (Hint: they are already there.)

By: Lucky5927

Lucky5927 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:41:25 +0000

But maybe they wouldn’t be lacking in depth if Hall had taken less than $23 Million guaranteed in February. That way, the Redskins would have had more cash and cap space available to acquire better personnel at key backup positions.
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Jesus Florio, it is hard to defend you when you make a statement like that. First of all, it starts up top. Anyone who has followed the Redskins for years knows that they have no depth. They had no depth last year before they signed Haynesworth and resigned Hall. So pointing the finger at Hall for “Accepting” the offer presented to him by Snyder/Vinny makes no sense. Fact is, Snyder has traded pick after pick away over the years. So they lost the opportunity to build depth. They overpaid a number of free-agents over the years (which they are still doing) who have been either busts or past their prime. Thus eliminating much needed cap space. Then Snyder/Vinny hire a QB’s coach, who has never been an offensive coordinator as their head coach. So to me, the blame lies mainly on Snyder and Vinny. Hell, Vinny has been stealing paychecks for years. If he wasn’t Snyder’s personal assistant, he would be gone. But I guess Danny boy needs his coffee and dry-cleaning. Truth is Zorn needs to be fired. He is just not ready to be a head coach. I believe he has potential as a Coordinator down the road, but he still has a lot to learn and experience. And some of the players have stopped playing with heart and determination. It is a sad time to be a Redskins fan. And it is a trickling down effect from the incompetence of the people at the top. AND THAT is why they will never draw a big name coach to clean up that mess. What a shame that a once proud franchise has come down to this. They are not the Raiders of the East Coast, but they are not working on it.

By: Terry

Terry — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:34:31 +0000

“Danny Boy” and Vinny Cerrato have been the laughing stock of the league since they graced us with their presence. With the exception of over paying it’s free agents, they’ve done nothing but brought down a storied franchise.

By: Hap

Hap — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:33:59 +0000

Oops, almost forgot, who do ya think will be the 1st owner that will try to build a quick team out of an uncapped year ? “More fun. More flags. Deep 6 Flags.”

By: Wolfskins

Wolfskins — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:21:39 +0000

The problem with the D is on the coaches… they’ve got the individual talent but it’s up to the coaches to put them in positions to succeed. This team can’t stop anyone if their life depends on it. That’s on the coaches.
Now the O… that’s on the FO. Zorn has wanted to install a WCO from the start. That offense is about getting as many receivers out as possible for the QB to throw to. In the “Midwest CO”, there’s also a strong running game. The only way both of these can happen is if there are BIG guys upfront to allow for 3/4 WR sets and to make holes for the RBs to run through.
This offseason the coaching staff said the OLine was the biggest reason for the 2-6 end to the season… but what did the FO do? They signed Dockery to replace Kendall (who by the way isn’t on the team right now and is waiting for the FO to call him)…. and nothing else.
On the D side, they signed the top two D players available in FA and drafted 4 defensive players (out of the 6 draft picks they had) with their first 4 picks.
Don’t blame Zorn… he was set up to fail.

By: bake

bake — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:13:03 +0000

The offensive line is offensive…………………………….that’s the problem start to finish. They overpay for alleged stars, and ignore the one thing that they really need. look at the great teams of the past- it always starts with a dominant offensive line.
Snyder and Cerrato should be fired, then worry about who’s coaching or playing QB.
So what will they do? Sign Jevon Kearse and let go of Carlos Rogers, fire Zorn and bring in maybe Mike Vick or someone at Qb………………….idiots…………..