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Report: George Soros part of Checketts group, too

Maybe Dave Checketts really doesn’t want to buy the St. Louis Rams.

Why else would he have included both Rush Limbaugh and, reportedly, George Soros in the group cobbling together the money to make the purchase?

If, after all, Limbaugh is not eligible to become part owner of a team due to polarizing and divisive comments, Soros’ comparison of the Bush administration to the Nazi regime arguably merits that same outcome.

But, per Bloomberg.com, Soros is part of the Checketts group, too.

Bottom line?  Checketts should have done more homework before piecing together his investment group.  All he needed to do was call the league office or maybe a few owners to get a feel for whether this kind of thing would fly.

With Limbaugh now out, it’s likely only a matter of time before Soros will have to go as well.  Even if the reaction to Soros’ involvement isn’t as sharp and immediate, it only takes nine of 32 “no” votes from the full league ownership to kill the deal — and there probably are at least nine Republican owners who believe that, if Limbaugh isn’t fit to own part of a team, Soros isn’t, either.

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  1. VoxVeritas says: Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM

    ROFL Soros is Dr. EEEEEvillllll.

  2. rkelly says: Oct 15, 2009 11:47 AM

    Hey, why didn’t they include Jimmy the Greek Snyder in the group as well. (Oh wait, he’s dead) Why didn’t they include Howard Cosell’s “look at that little monkey run” clip in their dvd presentation.

  3. jaxBill says: Oct 15, 2009 11:48 AM

    C’mon Florio, it’s a double standard. Main stream media has decided that it’s acceptable to bash Dubya however they see fit. Soros won’t be forced to quit especially since most players probably don’t even know who he is.

  4. filthymcnasty says: Oct 15, 2009 11:48 AM

    You mean the Department of ze Fatherland, err…Homeland Security and ze SS are in anyway similiar?
    NO WAY! We don’t torture! We have guaranteed rights via the Constitution…oh wait, ze Patriot Act. We don’t invade other countries…awwww, shit nevermind.

  5. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 11:48 AM

    Why would Soros have to go? While he may have made those comments about the Bush presidency, he is no where near the polarizing figurehead that Rush is. In fact, until reading this article, I personally had never heard of the guy.
    It is Checketts right to include or exclude whoever they want. If he wants to move forward with Soros, he can. If he wants to move forward with Rush, he can. That is his right, just as it is the right of NFL owners to accept or reject his offer.

  6. Desides says: Oct 15, 2009 11:49 AM

    “With Limbaugh now out, it’s likely only a matter of time before Soros will have to go as well.”
    Doubtful. This entire situation is the result of a double standard. Soros will get a pass.

  7. PirateFreedom says: Oct 15, 2009 11:52 AM

    I doubt Soros has the mind share, negative or positive , that Rush has.
    The problem with Rush wasn’t with his politics but rather with his inflammatory and controversial nature.
    Soros is a polarizing figure among politics junkies but not among the general public and he is unlikely to make the sort of controversial , league headache causing statements that Rush would inevitable make.
    Soros makes money by having money, Rush makes money by having an audience.

  8. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 11:52 AM

    The hypocrisy is nauseating.

  9. Opie says: Oct 15, 2009 11:53 AM

    Soros?!? Did Rush know about that? See, money has no political bias!
    The whole group should be voted down! As the Atlanta Spirit ownership group has shown, you need 1 owner and not a group! Maybe the Rooney’s will receive another exemption and be allowed to buy the Rams?!?

  10. Bwa Ha Ha says: Oct 15, 2009 11:53 AM

    Anybody heard any football news lately?

  11. Packer Proud says: Oct 15, 2009 11:54 AM

    Well, finally some fairness on the issue Florio. Was that a tough story to write?

  12. Dennis says: Oct 15, 2009 11:54 AM

    If you think Soros is going to be a problem, you missed out on what this is all about. Liberals don’t get excluded based on what they say and do, otherwise, who would pay attention to liars, cheaters, and shakedown artists like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?

  13. smiley says: Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM

    It did compare to the Nazi regime….didn’t it?

  14. shinsnake says: Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM

    Well of course the response to Soros won’t be as sharp or as immediate, considering that you won’t have people writing on the internet that “as long as he can keep his politics in check” he wouldn’t be a problem. Nor will you have the whining outrage you had from blacks over comments that Soros didn’t say. Nor would you have idiots like Jason Whitlock or Bryan Burwell making it a national cause to keep Limbaugh from the NFL. Nor will you have James Farrior, Roman Oben, or other NFL players coming out and saying they wouldn’t play for him. Nor will you have Demaurice Smith or Roger Goodell coming out against him. Liberals run the majority of the media and while there will be outrage, they won’t let that filter through to the rest of the public. And as long as they can do that, they can sneak their main man Soros into the club, happy to own stock his plantation with more black people.

  15. Chris Fiorentino says: Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM

    “Even if the reaction to Soros’ involvement isn’t as sharp and immediate,”
    Give me a freaking break. Do you really think the racist media will say a word about Soros being a part of the group? They are a bunch of pussies and will NEVER EVER say a word about a Liberal.

  16. Steve the Pict says: Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM

    Soros is a liberal. Limbaugh is a racist, or at best a race-baiter. Big difference, especially when over half the players are African-American. Objections to Limbaugh are not about his non-racist political views, so there shouldn’t be a political litmus test.

  17. Packer Proud says: Oct 15, 2009 12:00 PM

    One question that is killing me … How come Serena Williams, who owns share in the Miami Dolphins, and who said she’d take a fuzzy little yellow ball and stuff it down the throat of a line judge allowed stock in an NFL franchise?
    I guess this tells me that threatening bodily harm on someone is not near as dangerous as quotes dug up on Wikipedia to prove Rush’s racism. That were never said. By Rush.
    Geez.

  18. MattBahr9 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:00 PM

    Hey Florio:
    Don’t you realize that George Soros was the largest donor of the previous two Democratic presidential nominees? If he’s not qualified to own an NFL team — shouldn’t he be disqualified from donating to presidential candidates?
    George Soros is a communist and should be arrested for his war against our dollar. As the grandson of a living holocaust survivor, this man spits on the memory of all those who perished. He is against this country.
    It’s a shame, Florio, that you put Limbaugh and Soros in the same group. Shame on you for spewing your liberal degeneracy.

  19. mike says: Oct 15, 2009 12:02 PM

    Oh this is too much!
    Only thing is…most blacks think like Soros and consider Bush no better than the Nazi’s. After all, it was Bush who made the hurricane go over New Orleans.
    Will black players take Soros’ money. Yeah.
    Will Goodell make a remark about Soros? We’ll see.

  20. VonClausewitz says: Oct 15, 2009 12:02 PM

    This argument is totally void of logic and common sense.

  21. birdmancometh says: Oct 15, 2009 12:03 PM

    Maybe the idea was to even out the whole deal by involving two extremes. Personally, i’d like to see both of them fade into the background.
    I don’t like getting into arguments with idiots, but I must ask Chris Fiorentino…
    Since when is “Liberal” a race? I really do not understand how some people manage to stay alive as long as they do.

  22. shinsnake says: Oct 15, 2009 12:03 PM

    Limbaugh is not a racist no matter how many times you say it and hope it’s true. He has not said any racist things that we know of. You may believe him to be racist, but there is absolutely nothing to give that indication.
    However, Soros is controversial to, you know, the other half of the country. Reminds me of that stupid report who said, “I don’t know how Nixon won, no one I knew voted for him.” And if you remember, Goodell didn’t say he didn’t approve of Rush because he said racist things, just divisive and controversial things. Same goes for mr. I’m having a good recession George Soros.

  23. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 12:04 PM

    # Twiz says: October 15, 2009 11:48 AM
    Why would Soros have to go? While he may have made those comments about the Bush presidency, he is no where near the polarizing figurehead that Rush is. In fact, until reading this article, I personally had never heard of the guy.
    It is Checketts right to include or exclude whoever they want. If he wants to move forward with Soros, he can. If he wants to move forward with Rush, he can. That is his right, just as it is the right of NFL owners to accept or reject his offer.
    **************
    Thank you for quickly proving you are every bit as ignorant and hypocritical as I thought

  24. chc4 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:05 PM

    People like smiley marginalize past atrocities with comments like that. They think they know what they’re talking but in reality are complete and total morons.

  25. denverpilot says: Oct 15, 2009 12:06 PM

    Soros makes money by hedging that we will all lose money. Talk about a douche. He will get a pass because he is a libreral. Hypocrisy at its American finest.

  26. Chris Fiorentino says: Oct 15, 2009 12:06 PM

    “Soros is a liberal. Limbaugh is a racist, or at best a race-baiter. Big difference, especially when over half the players are African-American. Objections to Limbaugh are not about his non-racist political views, so there shouldn’t be a political litmus test.”
    So is Kanye West a race-baiter…he said President Bush hates black people. Or how about Spike Lee…he made a movie, full of lies, whose basic premise was that President Bush hates black people.
    Of course not. Why? Because when a white person brings up race, it is racism. When a black person brings up race, it is “unifying”.

  27. mike says: Oct 15, 2009 12:08 PM

    “over half the players are African-American. ”
    Does that mean there should be a rule to make teams have a certain number of white players?
    What about in the NBA?
    That’s fair right? I mean, if we’re gonna have the “Rooney Rule” for coaches, why not for players?

  28. bmac187 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:10 PM

    He said it has nothing to do with the media. It’s the fact that the owners wouldn’t vote for the ownership team. I imagine most of the owners either read this site, or someone in their office does. That is what will keep Soros off the team.

  29. SpartaChris says: Oct 15, 2009 12:10 PM

    Twiz says:
    October 15, 2009 11:48 AM
    Why would Soros have to go? While he may have made those comments about the Bush presidency, he is no where near the polarizing figurehead that Rush is. In fact, until reading this article, I personally had never heard of the guy.
    Hypocrite.

  30. DcNinerFan says: Oct 15, 2009 12:12 PM

    Steve the Pict – Limbaugh IS a race-baiter, but then again so is the President. And half his “advisers.” And half of his unconstitutionally appointed “Czars.” If being a race-baiter disqualifies you from living the American dream of capitalism and free enterprise, then it sure has hell disqualifies you from being the President or anywhere near the presidency. If you think SlowBama isn’t a race-baiter, you just have to read his biography. Its quite telling how incredibly racist against white people and prejudiced against capitalism he is.
    I find it kind of funny that someone who has been accused of being an ex-Nazi himself (Soros) would compare the Bush administration to a Nazi regime. Nazism, being socialist by nature, is far closer to the Obama administration, albeit his views are closer to Mother Russia’s idea of communism, ie, everyone dependent on the government.

  31. jersey73 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:12 PM

    Soros is not a liberal, he is a fascist, world controlling guy. He is the real-life version of Dr. Evil. Or for a less joking version, he would be a perfect villain in a James Bond film.
    Do your research on him and learn about his vile personal life, coupled with his manipulation of the world currencies for his own profit. Add in the negative and inflammatory propaganda that his moveon.org (talk about political bomb-throwing every bit, if not worse, than Rush) engages in.
    For someone to post that they never heard of this guy before this article, but then make a comment about it, is flat out ignorant.

  32. 2000TJ says: Oct 15, 2009 12:14 PM

    Typical liberal reaction, value all opinions, unless you disagree with me. Diversity is great, unless you diagree with me.

  33. VicksPuppies says: Oct 15, 2009 12:16 PM

    Soros compared the US to Nazi Germany at one point. He is incredibly divisive. Being a lefty, however, I am sure he will get a pass.

  34. Mooch says: Oct 15, 2009 12:17 PM

    What % of the US pop knows to Soros is? Maybe 30% tops.
    What % of the US pop knows Rush? Probably 90%+ easy.
    That said, perception is everything and I expect the NFL to let Checketts know he should dump Soros.
    Again, too many other groups with zero baggage and the same bag of cash. Why do business with anyone you’d have to worry about.
    PS – can you believe there are actually people who WANT to buy the Rams?

  35. StickyDitka says: Oct 15, 2009 12:19 PM

    MattBahr9:
    Do you know what else is disrespectful to those who were harmed by the Holocaust? Not knowing the difference between the Nazis who were responsible and the Communists who were victims and fought against the Nazis. It was the Soviets who first entered Berlin. Read a history book, go to a museum or talk to your grandparents before spewing your ignorance.
    Now, if you were talking about the Soviet Gulags, you would have had an argument.

  36. ColonelFatheart says: Oct 15, 2009 12:19 PM

    Do you have a link to the Bloomberg article? Is it, by any chance, this one?
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=asN0f.aMUzQY
    “Limbaugh’s group is led by former Madison Square Garden President and current St. Louis Blues and Real Salt Lake majority owner Dave Checketts, who brings a wealth of sports industry contacts, know-how and credibility. Checketts also brings big-time backers like George Soros, who financed the duo’s failed attempt to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2003.
    “Checketts’s ownership of hockey’s Blues is backed by, among others, TowerBrook Capital Partners, which was formerly known as Soros Private Equity Partners before it was spun off from Soros Asset Management Group in 2005.”

  37. shinsnake says: Oct 15, 2009 12:19 PM

    So the argument is no longer about what you say, but whether or not you are divisive. And since Soros is not as well known as Limbaugh, people will claim that he is not divisive. So the rules revert back to, if you are a conservative, you can be part of the club as long as you keep your mouth shut and move to the back of the bus. Seen but not heard. How American…

  38. TheDPR says: Oct 15, 2009 12:21 PM

    Limbaugh tries to influence American politics with his mouth and his ideas.
    Soros tries to influence American politics with his wallet.
    Who’s the bigger scumbag?

  39. stujo4 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:22 PM

    Soros has a “vile” personal life? How about some examples. How about one example?
    “Manipulation” is also called speculation and he happens to be good at it. He’s also a philanthropist meaning that he gives his money away to causes he believes in. Like anti-apartheid efforts, fighting communism and promoting democracy in eastern Europe.
    Oh yeah, he’s evil. Read more here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

  40. ColonelFatheart says: Oct 15, 2009 12:22 PM

    So the moral of this tale is: Limbaugh was willing to partner with an entity backed in part by Soros’ money. Soros, according to Rush and his ilk, is an evil liberal. Limbaugh is a hypocrite.

  41. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 12:23 PM

    Every NFL team should have a self-admitted Nazi collaborator, convicted insider-trader and American hating part owner. It’s good for the League’s image.

  42. AtTheMurph says: Oct 15, 2009 12:24 PM

    Sorry Steve but you just missed. It’s not that Limbaugh IS a racist it’s that he is MADE OUT to be a racist. All the phony racists quotes. requoted enough times makes them true. That’s how it works right?
    I also thought the NFL had rules against criminals being owners. Soros is a convicted criminal among many other nasty atributes.

  43. Desides says: Oct 15, 2009 12:25 PM

    “All he needed to do was call the league office or maybe a few owners to get a feel for whether this kind of thing would fly.”
    Per Limbaugh’s opening segment today, Checketts did just this and received assurance things were fine.

  44. shinsnake says: Oct 15, 2009 12:26 PM

    Besides, George Soros once said, and I quote, “I was hoping someone had John Wilkes Boothe on ice and was going to bring him back to life for Bush’s inauguration. We’d give him a medal for it this time around.” He also said “I’m not saying slavery is a good thing or to bring it back, but I can’t say it wouldn’t be lovely to see all the white people working under the thumb of a black man. For one thing, the streets would be safer from lynch mobs.”
    How can you let a guy like that own an NFL franchise?

  45. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 12:28 PM

    @MattBahr9
    Your arguement holds no water. Checketts donated a ton of money to McCain.
    @SpartaChris and @TheBigOldDog
    You both called me a hypocrite. Its time to put up or shut up. I admitted I never heard of Soros till this article, and said that he is obviously not the polarizing figure that Rush is. How does that make me a hypocrite? I said he has the right to be in the ownership group, the same as Rush has that right. I further said it is the right of Checketts to dump or admit anyone they wish into their group. I also said it is the NFL’s right to accept or reject any bid for ownership they wish. Neither the ownership group nor the NFL need to give a reason why.
    Time for you to prove your point that I am ignorant and hypocritical or STFU!

  46. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 12:29 PM

    # smiley says: October 15, 2009 11:55 AM
    It did compare to the Nazi regime….didn’t it?
    ****
    Well Soro’s would know she he collaborated with the Nazis in Hungry and helped confiscate the property of fellow Jews. He even talked about it on 60 Minutes:
    George Soros Interview On 60 Minutes:
    When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros’ father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.
    (Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)
    KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros’ friends and neighbors.
    (Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)
    KROFT: (Voiceover) You’re a Hungarian Jew…
    Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.
    KROFT: (Voiceover) …who escaped the Holocaust…
    (Vintage footage of women walking by train)
    Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.
    (Vintage footage of people getting on train)
    KROFT: (Voiceover) …by–by posing as a Christian.
    Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.
    (Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)
    KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
    Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.
    KROFT: In what way?
    Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and–and anticipate events and when–when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a–a very personal experience of evil.
    KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
    Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
    KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
    Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
    KROFT: I mean, that’s–that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
    Mr. SOROS: Not–not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t–you don’t see the connection. But it was–it created no–no problem at all.
    KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
    Mr. SOROS: No.
    KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?
    Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c–I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was–well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets–that if I weren’t there–of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would–would–would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the–whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the–I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/george-soros-on-helping-the-nazis-during-the-holocaust

  47. simple_simon1 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:30 PM

    smiley:
    “It did compare to the Nazi regime….didn’t it?”
    As a Canadian, whose country is involved with the war in Afghanistan and not Iraq, it is shocking that you have such little schooling, or lack thereof, in International processes such as war. Even if the war in Iraq was about oil, which it appears to be the case, it is still simply a war, not a genocide. It’s not the same as Somalia, where the government allowed groups to wipe out anybody that wasn’t from the same background, all with macete’s. It’s not the same as what’s happening now in areas of the world where women are allowed to be killed and tortured for lack of any rights at all. And it certainly is nowhere close to the attempted destruction of an entire race of people in gas chambers, hard labour and starvation over the course of 4-5 years.
    In a relatively short period of time 6 million Jews were killed in concentration camps you idiot. It’s not even close to the same thing as people dying in a war, no matter how much you hate Bush.
    Here’s a question for anybody who says repulsive things like smiley. How come nobody ever screams that Tony Blair should be processed for war crimes? How about the Prime Minister of Australia, or Norway, etc? Just because you hate Bush doesn’t make him more or less of a warmonger than anyone else. At least Bush told you about the bombings. Clinton didn’t and he ended up bombing elementary schools when he was President. And now Obama is in power and what has he done. Promised to close Gitmo, not done. Promised to end Iraq presence, not done. Promised to bring troops home, just to send them to another conflict. Created 5 trillion in debt with no job creation at all and saved companies from going under with no strings attached so, by the new year, they will all be in trouble again.
    You see, don’t be so hypocritical of Bush and pretend the others aren’t doing the same.

  48. Cecil says: Oct 15, 2009 12:31 PM

    Quick question: how many of you slavering dittoheads are wearing tinfoil hats right now?
    Yeesh. Can’t wait for the football talk to come back around.

  49. bloodystupidjohnson says: Oct 15, 2009 12:35 PM

    This is bloody crazy. If you people don’t think there is a strong Stalinist bent in the media, then blasting Rush and letting that rich piece of crap of George Soros slid under the radar screen is unbelievable.

  50. raybin says: Oct 15, 2009 12:36 PM

    Jesus, this whole thing so f-ing stupid. I don’t give a damn about the owners’ politics. If I’m a Rams fan, all I care about is “Will they spend money on talent and leave the day to day management to real football people?”
    I’m a Raiders fan. Soros and/or Limbaugh are both welcome to buy the team from Al.

  51. longrodvanhungendong says: Oct 15, 2009 12:38 PM

    Maybe Madoff has a few bucks he can invest with these guys….

  52. zygi milf says: Oct 15, 2009 12:39 PM

    birdmancometh says:
    October 15, 2009 12:03 PM
    I don’t like getting into arguments with idiots, but I must ask Chris Fiorentino…
    Since when is “Liberal” a race? I really do not understand how some people manage to stay alive as long as they do.
    ****************
    Liberal isn’t a race, but it is a handicap.

  53. Zaggs says: Oct 15, 2009 12:40 PM

    Nope Soros wont have to go. Because the media isn’t going to make a case against him except for maybe Fox. Just as the media didnt give a crap when liberal protesters constantly compared Bush to Hitler yet get their panties in a bunch if the far left LaRouche society does the same thing to Obama.
    Soros supports many a far left cause, most of them resort to anything to get their message across. That makes him far more Liable then Limbaugh.

  54. chapnasty says: Oct 15, 2009 12:40 PM

    @ TWIZ
    If you needed to prove anything more that you were an idiot. Soros is far more polarizing than Limbaugh and if you were educated and interested in knowing the truth you would see that.

  55. Zaggs says: Oct 15, 2009 12:40 PM

    Oh I forgot, Soros was part of Checketts attempts to buy the dodgers as well wasnt he?

  56. Pudge Heffelfinger says: Oct 15, 2009 12:41 PM

    Seriously folks. Raise your hand if you’ve NEVER compared the Bush white house to a Nazi regime?

    Yeah, I thought so.

  57. cmich06 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:45 PM

    You would hope this would be the case but the media and Soros are on the same side so you won’t hear a word about it

  58. Ralphie says: Oct 15, 2009 12:47 PM

    From Right to Left in one fell swoop. Impressive. That’s a better juke move than AP could ever put on a DB.
    How do you appease the Lefty’s and the media Jackals? Easy, just tell them “the guy taking Limbaugh’s place will look just like you”. Problem solved. Move on folks. The only better candidates would have been. Keith Olbermann, Nancy Pelosi or Bill Maher.

  59. FarmerMonkey says: Oct 15, 2009 12:47 PM

    @jersey77
    OK, did some research on Soros. Soros is involved in all kinds of evil operations, like these…
    http://www.soros.org/initiatives
    …the guy’s given 6 billion dollars to various charities and causes. Read about it in that left-leaning magazine “Forbes”.
    That said, I think both Rush, Soros, MoveOn, etc are all part of making America “stupider” and reducing public debate in this country to juvenile name-calling and bumper-sticker slogans.
    But either way, I have no problem with either Soros or Rush being an NFL Owner. It’s the owners’ call based on what they think the blowback from players and fans will be. I just watch football.

  60. moswesley says: Oct 15, 2009 12:48 PM

    To Twiz and anyone else who says they’ve never heard of Soros,
    Soros is notorious for making polarizing and divisive comments, he just doesn’t host an AM radio show because he’s one of the richest guys in the world.
    If we’re going to start excluding people from business deals because of politics, then the sword is going to fall both ways.
    This is why Keith Olbermann gives his blessing for Rush to own a part of the Rams. Most NFL owners personal political beliefs are in line with Limbaugh’s anyway, and his limited ownership changes nothing.

  61. Roynp3 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:49 PM

    @DcNinerFan
    So among those white people that Obama is “racist against” his single-mother and grandparents are included, right?
    Just like all you Rush-Heads that scream “YOU’VE PROBABLY NEVER LISTENed TO HIS SHOW”, I’m certain you’ve never read Obama’s book because he talks at length about his grandparents and mother (all three of them white) as being the major forces in shaping who he is today.
    And why is Obama against capitalism? Because he passed a trillion dollar stimulus package that kept our capitalist system from crashing in on itself?
    You guys like to ridicule Obama’s message of “hope” that he talked about on his campaign, and I think you’re right. There isn’t any hope if half of our country is as ignorant as you are.

  62. mw says: Oct 15, 2009 12:53 PM

    Ignorance like granite.
    Soros’ sin is to compare the Bush regime to naziism?
    Let’s ask Rush about comparing presidents to nazis:
    “They accuse us of being Nazis and Obama’s got a health care logo that’s right out of Adolf Hitler’s playbook. Now what are the similarities between the Democrat Party of today and the Nazi party in Germany? Well, the Nazis were against big business. They hated big business and, of course, we all know that they were opposed to Jewish capitalism. They were insanely, irrationally against pollution. They were for two years mandatory voluntary service to Germany. They had a whole bunch of make-work projects to keep people working one of which was the Autobahn.
    They were against cruelty and vivisection of animals but in the radical sense of devaluing human life, they banned smoking. They were totally against that. They were for abortion and euthanasia of the undesirables as we all know and they were for cradle-to-grave nationalized health care. I have always bristled when I hear people claim that conservatism gets close to Naziism. It is liberalism that’s the closest you can get to Naziism and socialism. It’s all bundled up under the socialist banner. There are far more similarities between Nancy Pelosi and Adolf Hitler than between these people showing up at town halls to protest a Hitler-like policy that’s being heralded by a Hitler-like logo. … (he goes on) (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_080609/content/01125106.guest.html)
    If anyone wants a clue, check out Richard J. Evans 3 volume history of the Nazi regime. And here’s another clue, rather than listening to Rush’s gospel, try learning for yourselves what Naziism was all about.
    Also, one more clue. It doesn’t make sense to call an uber-capitalist like Soros a communist.
    Geeze!

  63. Huskersrule says: Oct 15, 2009 12:54 PM

    “It did compare to the Nazi regime….didn’t it?”
    Obama did lie. Didn’t He?
    http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/illegal-immigrants-and-the-health-care-legislation/

  64. Bob S. says: Oct 15, 2009 12:55 PM

    Soros compared Bush to Nazis! Now that is chutzpah!
    He who as a youth in Hungary during WWII was a member of the Judenrat a group of Jews who collaborated with the Nazis in sending almost all the OTHER Jews of Hungary to the concentration camps. Soros admitted on 60 Minutes to Steve Croft, that he delivered leaflets to Jews for them to report to centers with 2 days food and nothing else from which Nazis sent them to their extermination.

    ” … When the Nazis occupied Hungary in 1944 . . . the Judenrat [a Jewish Council set up by the Nazis, which betrayed Jews in exchange for special privileges] recruited him [Soros] and other Jewish youngsters to hand out leaflets deceptively persuading unwitting Jews to turn themselves in for deportation to the death camps. Sosos showed one of the leaflets to his father. It ordered the recipient to report to a certain synagogue with a blanket and two days’ worth of food. Tivadar [George Soros’ father] asked his son if he understood the significance of the order.
    “I can guess. They’ll be interned.” . . .
    “George had liked the excitement of being a courier.” . . .
    “I grew up in a Jewish anti-Semitic home,” he once quipped. …. ”

    Yet, all the media remains mute!
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/10418/hmmm-far-left-financier-former-nazi-george-soros-part-of-limbaugh-nfl-bid-group/

  65. VoxVeritas says: Oct 15, 2009 12:57 PM

    “Soros is not a liberal, he is a fascist, world controlling guy.”
    He’s a Neoliberal. Neolib for short. Liberals are the new Nazis. You can bet your last dime that they’ll have to drop Soros.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/27/AR2005062701447.html

  66. jersey73 says: Oct 15, 2009 12:59 PM

    @ FarmerMonkey
    Steal $12 billion and give $6 billion to charity doesn’t make you a good guy.
    That’s what many robber barons did during the gilded age to feel good about themselves. Politicians like to do it too.

  67. mustbechris says: Oct 15, 2009 1:00 PM

    jchecketts is insane…i woulda loved to see limbaugh and soros owning a team together though. wow.

  68. No-Neck says: Oct 15, 2009 1:01 PM

    Congratulations, Florio. You’ve just turned your blog into a political forum. No thanks. If I wanted to debate liberals vs conservatives, I’d go to MSNBC or FOX News web sites. In this political climate, the two sides are never going to agree on this matter. So why bother debating? Let’s stick to football.

  69. j4a1 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:03 PM

    “Why would Soros have to go? While he may have made those comments about the Bush presidency, he is no where near the polarizing figurehead that Rush is. In fact, until reading this article, I personally had never heard of the guy.”
    You don’t know who George Soros is? Well..that explains how Obama got elected. I bet you can tell me who the starting left tackle for the Rams is though, can’t you?
    Unfortunately you’re not alone. I’m sure there are millions who have never heard of the biggest power broker in Washington DC. It’s a sad indictment of the system. George Soros has 100 times more influence on American politics than Rush does.
    Wow.

  70. scott_nchills says: Oct 15, 2009 1:04 PM

    Duh, folks, here’s the difference:
    Rush is a hot air factory spewing a constant stream of extremist inflammatory blather over the airwaves to millions of listeners on a daily basis.
    Soros – not so much.

  71. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 1:04 PM

    I knew sooner or latter the blatant hypocrisy and corruption would become obvious, I just never thought it would happen the next day.

  72. Seeryer says: Oct 15, 2009 1:05 PM

    If people have a problem with Soros comparing the Bush Administration to the Nazi regime than I am sure those same people have a problem with Limbaugh comparing Obama to the Nazi regime? Right hypocrites?

  73. PayDoh says: Oct 15, 2009 1:05 PM

    @2000TJ says:
    October 15, 2009 12:14 PM
    Typical liberal reaction, value all opinions, unless you disagree with me. Diversity is great, unless you diagree with me.
    100% correct, they are THE shining example of a hypocrite. I even heard stories about the gays marching in L.A. and were yelling the “n” word at blacks because they didn’t support their beliefs.

  74. Plankshelmet says: Oct 15, 2009 1:06 PM

    In the ultimate hypocrisy,George Soros and Rush Limbaugh were both in the original group of investors that were angling to buy the Rams LOL!!!
    Lets see if I can get my head around this one; two guys who have divergent, passionate (zealous) political/moral views and agendas were able to find common ground……..when it was about making some money. Further support of my long standing view that both extremes(left/right) ARE 100% FULL OF SHIT LYING SELF SERVING HYPOCRITS !!!

  75. Colinito says: Oct 15, 2009 1:10 PM

    I don’t see any hypocrisy at all. The issue was not Rush being a Republican. (That is more than fine, and I understand many of the owners are Republican.) It is about Rush being a patent racist and hate monger. On the other hand, whether you agree with Soros or not, in the quote in question Soros was talking about the methods of propaganda in the BA being similar to Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia, which they clearly were….
    I know it may be hard to remember, but America was caught up in an insane patriotic fervor after 9/11 (freedom fries), all pushed by the BA along with complete and total lies to get us involved in Iraq. Those are facts, not opinions..

  76. MotorCityDiddy says: Oct 15, 2009 1:15 PM

    To take a line from Charlie Wilson’s War, Limbaugh has survived character assasinations for over 20 years from people that know how (Clintons/Kennedy’s/DNC & RNC/Edwards/McCain/etc) and he’s still around while many of these opponents have fallen. One has to assume he would know his opponents’ reaction and how this would play out before he even accepted being included in bid. Now he can play the victim card and site many of his detractors for slander which caused him to lose out on a “dream job”. If you’re going to sue for defimation & lost wages, what better occupation than that of NFL Owner where you basically have a license to print money?

  77. ColonelFatheart says: Oct 15, 2009 1:17 PM

    @Pay Doh: “100% correct, they are THE shining example of a hypocrite. I even heard stories about the gays marching in L.A. and were yelling the “n” word at blacks because they didn’t support their beliefs.”
    Ah, yes. You heard things, stories even. Every single gay person is liberal and white and racist, absolutely. It’s good to know that facts inform your opinions.

  78. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 1:20 PM

    # Twiz says: October 15, 2009 12:28 PM
    @MattBahr9
    Your arguement holds no water. Checketts donated a ton of money to McCain.
    @SpartaChris and @TheBigOldDog
    You both called me a hypocrite. Its time to put up or shut up. I admitted I never heard of Soros till this article, and said that he is obviously not the polarizing figure that Rush is. How does that make me a hypocrite? I said he has the right to be in the ownership group, the same as Rush has that right. I further said it is the right of Checketts to dump or admit anyone they wish into their group. I also said it is the NFL’s right to accept or reject any bid for ownership they wish. Neither the ownership group nor the NFL need to give a reason why.
    Time for you to prove your point that I am ignorant and hypocritical or STFU!
    ****
    Not knowing who George Soros is, one the most important and influential people in American politics for decades proves your own ignorance. Let me help you:
    ig⋅no⋅rant
      /ˈɪgnərənt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ig-ner-uhnt]
    –adjective
    1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
    2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
    3. uninformed; unaware.
    4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
    Now let’s move on to hypocrite:
    hyp⋅o⋅crite
      /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ [hip-uh-krit]
    1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
    2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
    By being against Limbaugh because he is “controversial and divisive” and be for Soros one of the most divisive and controversial person alive today, shows you hypocrisy.
    Now that you have had it explained to you by the numbers you’ll take this is a “teachable moment” Obama likes to talk about and learn from it.

  79. wrath4771 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:24 PM

    Soros should be given the boot after he “declared war” on the British pound years ago. But, I have to agree that if Limbaugh is given the boot for being a right wing idiot, Soros should have to go as well for being a left wing idiot.

  80. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 1:25 PM

    # Plankshelmet says: October 15, 2009 1:06 PM
    In the ultimate hypocrisy,George Soros and Rush Limbaugh were both in the original group of investors that were angling to buy the Rams LOL!!!
    Lets see if I can get my head around this one; two guys who have divergent, passionate (zealous) political/moral views and agendas were able to find common ground……..when it was about making some money. Further support of my long standing view that both extremes(left/right) ARE 100% FULL OF SHIT LYING SELF SERVING HYPOCRITS !!!
    ****
    Or it is simply an concrete example of people of diverse backgrounds coming together when it comes to pro sports in general and the NFL in particular which makes a mockery of the charges made by the corrupt media, Goodell and others about Rush’s divisiveness. If Soros and Rush can get together when it comes to Sports, anything is possible.

  81. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 1:26 PM

    Colinito says: October 15, 2009 1:10 PM
    I don’t see any hypocrisy at all.
    ***
    That’s because you are wearing blinders. Take them off and you may see the truth.

  82. j4a1 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:31 PM

    Anyone who doesn’t see both Limbaugh and Soros as different sides of the same coin is blinded by political idiology.
    If Rush’s money isn’t good enough to buy the Rams…then neither is George’s’. Any thing short of that total and complete hypocrisy.

  83. slipkid says: Oct 15, 2009 1:36 PM

    blacks would take limbaugh-bucks too. they are lying.
    lots of bs talk. and yes this has to do with big libs denying something to someone they dislike.
    soros will get a pass.
    nazi? while i didnt like certain bush policies he didnt go after his critics like osamabama is going after his. like clinton did. the chicago mob model.
    and due to the plummeting popularity of his policies, it is obvious that the majority of the country had figured out that osamabama is out to get them any way he can. it’s only a matter of time before his personal popularity polls follow suit.
    but hey lets give seniors $250! bread and circuses! and yes i criticized gee dubya for his $300 checks too. cut the damn taxes way low forever. then thous shall see growth and job creation. real job creation.
    if you think the propoaganda was wild in 01, you arent watching what has happened for the last 16 months. we are clearly in “dear fuehrer” mode. but osamabama cant be a “nazi” per se because he isnt of the majority. he is a commie. and he penalizes those not like him.
    to hades with resident zero. the mud hutter doesnt even belong here.

  84. j4a1 says: Oct 15, 2009 1:37 PM

    “On the other hand, whether you agree with Soros or not, in the quote in question Soros was talking about the methods of propaganda in the BA being similar to Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia, which they clearly were….”
    Apparently, while completely blinded by your political bias, you missed the school children being indoctrinated into “Obama-ism”. ..and the tilted media coverage and fawning hero worship by most of the media. (Very Nazi-like)
    Let’s face it people. Both sides are guilty. And this is ALL about power. Those that see Limbaugh as a problem and not Soros or visa vera, are nothing but political hacks.

  85. Whizz Bang says: Oct 15, 2009 1:41 PM

    Is PFTalk a football blog? Or is it some kind of amateurish pseudo-political blog published by somebody who is writing and commenting on things that are way out of their depth?
    Stay with football, Floria. You may look like a freshman rep, but you don’t have to act like one. You’ll lose more audience than you gain if you continue to post this garbage.
    I’ve been coming to PFTalk since 2001, but not for this, and I’ll give your site up in a flash if you keep going down this road.

  86. Bob S. says: Oct 15, 2009 1:50 PM

    jersey73 says:
    @ FarmerMonkey
    Steal $12 billion and give $6 billion to charity doesn’t make you a good guy.

    how do you think soros got out of hungary to canada yet all the other jews in europe lost all their possesions to the nazis and the collaborators YET that traitor soros not only got out of the country but had enough money to become a capitalist. which takes a little more more than people make when earning $1 an hour that was the minimum wage when he got out. then he is able to pay off and buy his way into the usa. with which dead jews money that he stole did he start on his way to become a billionaire?

  87. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 1:55 PM

    @chapnasty and any one else —
    Because I disagree with you, I get called names and such. Because I admit I never heard of a particular person by name, I’m suddenly naive, incompetent, a hypocrite and such.
    What part of “rights” are you not understanding?
    The Checketts ownership group has the *RIGHT* to accept or deny anyone into that group. The NFL has the *RIGHT* to accept or deny anyone ownership of a franchise. No reasons need to be given for these decisions. In fact, it wouldn’t matter one way or the other unless someone can prove these decisions are racist or discriminatory in nature.
    Poor Rush didn’t get to buy his part of an NFL team. That decision is well within the Checketts group right. Look at the polarization that has happened just within this particular forum. *ANYONE* that causes that kind of polarization within the fan base shouldn’t be able to buy any part of ANY sports franchise IMO. I seriously doubt that Soros will cause the same kind of polarization, but if he does, it is up to the ownership group to make the final decision but again, IMO he shouldn’t be allowed to buy in either if it happens.
    As someone else stated in one of the other topics, —
    “The owner’s association is nothing more that a group of wealthy capitalists who made a cold hard business decision, exactly what Rush promotes each and every day.
    Isn’t it interesting that the very altar at which Rush worships chose to reject his sacrifice and now he is doing precisely what he criticizes and lambasts the liberal left for doing: whining. Take your own advice rush, suck it up and move on.”
    Now, because the dittohead/republemmings didn’t get their idol into the NFL, they are doing EXACTLY what their leader, Rush complains about doing! Whining!

  88. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 1:59 PM

    @TheBigOldDog
    You need to quit putting words into my mouth! I never said I was for him or against him. I said I didn’t know him, period.
    Funny how you complain about people putting words into Rush’s mouth when you attempt to do the exact same thing. It doesn’t surprise me though. Dittoheads/Republemmings will do anything they can to protect their idol Rush.

  89. j4a1 says: Oct 15, 2009 2:40 PM

    “Dittoheads/Republemmings will do anything they can to protect their idol Rush. ”
    LMAO…I think it’s funny that you think you have the “moral highground” when you are nothing more than one of the Sorohead/Demlemmings yourself!
    Two sides of the same coin.

  90. jamaltimore says: Oct 15, 2009 2:57 PM

    Wonder what ole Roger will say when he finds out Soro’s fund is one of the biggest known funders of the legalize POT movement?
    A noble cause to many, but I doubt it’s something an NFL team would want one of there owners associated with considering they could stand to have a recovering addict as a minority owner.

  91. DcNinerFan says: Oct 15, 2009 3:22 PM

    Roynp3 – First thing, on the “Stimulus.” Its like taking water from one end of a pool and putting in the other, expecting there to be an increase in the overall level. By taking money (tax payer money) that should go back into the private sector, the vast majority (around 90%) is slated to go towards government programs. If that isn’t just about the stupidest thing anyone has ever heard, its up there. I can name on one hand the amount of government programs that run efficiently and are cost effective. So, the “Stimulus” is really just a way for the Obama administration to wave their hands in the air and shout “look at what we are doing!” whilst quietly trying to institute a socialist policy against capitalism (see the his health care proposal, actually read it, and the war that Pelosi has declared on private companies (calling them evil)).
    As for his staffers, I said race-baiting, not racist, although Obama himself IS racist. His family history is that of criminals and malcontents (see the entire African side of his family, just about). If you actually read his book, you’ll know what sort of upbringing he has. 20 some odd years of listening to his good friend , the racist Rev. Wright and the unrepentant Terrorist Bill Ayers is going to have a sway on his thinking. That and he claims that African Socialism is the way of the future (it working so well there right now).
    Just deal with the fact that you voted a bigot and racist into the White House and then we can move on, and try to rectify the mistakes of the blind. It kind of shows when his first reaction to the arrest of a black scholar was to side with that black scholar WITHOUT learning anything of depth. Once he did learn, he realized he’s a moron and spoke to soon, back tracked on his statements, but it was too late, his true colors showed through yet again. He hired a “green jobs Czar” who is an incredible racist : http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be7_1251919681&c=1 So that’s what liberals call bringing people together? Yeah.
    I can go on and on, and unlike all the Rush “truths” that on one can seem to find evidence of except through wikipedia (no college or university will allow it any more), these are all recorded in actual, fact checked medium. Deal with it. Stop being blind.
    By the way, I almost never listen to Rush, because frankly he annoys me. The fact that people want to take away his given rights as an American because of things he says is downright Facist. Un-American. Anti-Capitalist. You just don’t see that.

  92. hotchick says: Oct 15, 2009 3:48 PM

    Lets see the post on why Florio thinks Soros should be out to. Not the comment that if Rush is out, Soros should be too because he speculates 9 NFL owners think if no Rush, no George. The one where Florio states George is bad like Rush.

  93. TheBigOldDog says: Oct 15, 2009 3:54 PM

    # Twiz says: October 15, 2009 1:59 PM
    @TheBigOldDog
    You need to quit putting words into my mouth! I never said I was for him or against him. I said I didn’t know him, period.
    Funny how you complain about people putting words into Rush’s mouth when you attempt to do the exact same thing. It doesn’t surprise me though. Dittoheads/Republemmings will do anything they can to protect their idol Rush.
    ******
    Twiz says: October 15, 2009 11:48 AM
    Why would Soros have to go?
    ****
    ROFLMAO! You can’t even keep your own positions straight in the same thread.

  94. hotchick says: Oct 15, 2009 3:58 PM

    Should you be allowed to vote if you live in such a hole that you never heard of Soros???

  95. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 4:02 PM

    @j4a1
    Once again, someone putting words into my mouth. I never once said I was for or against him. All I said was that 1) I don’t know the name, 2) the ownership group has the right to accept or reject anyone and 3) the NFL has the right to accept or reject any attempt to purchase a franchise (team).
    I did say multiple times that I personally was against Rush being an owner, not because of his politics, but because of 1) his obvious racism and 2) the polarization he has already done within the fan base.
    What is so hard about this that is so freaking hard for some certain individuals to understand?

  96. Occam says: Oct 15, 2009 4:07 PM

    “Dittoheads/Republemmings will do anything they can to protect their idol Rush. ”
    Do you suppose that it helps your case by starting off a post by name calling and making yourself look like a 7-year old?
    Just wondering.

  97. Twiz says: Oct 15, 2009 4:44 PM

    93. TheBigOldDog says: October 15, 2009 3:54 PM
    # Twiz says: October 15, 2009 1:59 PM
    @TheBigOldDog
    You need to quit putting words into my mouth! I never said I was for him or against him. I said I didn’t know him, period.
    Funny how you complain about people putting words into Rush’s mouth when you attempt to do the exact same thing. It doesn’t surprise me though. Dittoheads/Republemmings will do anything they can to protect their idol Rush.
    ******
    Twiz says: October 15, 2009 11:48 AM
    Why would Soros have to go?
    ****
    ROFLMAO! You can’t even keep your own positions straight in the same thread
    ___________________________________
    Actually, I have kept the same position. But in typical dittohead/republemming fashion, you only include PART of what I said instead of the entire paragraph. Pretty much shows your intellect doesn’t it. You can’t hold your position without making things up about someone.
    I said it before, I’ll say it again. Dittoheads/Republemmings will do/say anything needed to protect their idol Rush Limbaugh. The partial quote from the little puppy above proves it. My entire paragraph is below:
    “Why would Soros have to go? While he may have made those comments about the Bush presidency, he is no where near the polarizing figurehead that Rush is. In fact, until reading this article, I personally had never heard of the guy.”
    If you look at other posts I have made, I also said that if he did make those remarks, that in my opinion he should not be allowed to be an owner either. Nice of you to omit that post, but then again, it doesn’t fit with your agenda, does it!

  98. Ocelot138 says: Oct 15, 2009 4:45 PM

    Lots of dittoheads saying Soros is “Dr. Evil”
    How much do you want to bet that Rush or Glen Beck coined that comparison? Just another example of dittoheads having no capability of independent thought.
    It’s scary how mad some white folk are about black people in America. It must be tough losing the power and race dominance you once had. That you could hate a race so much that you hide behind “equality” – despite the fact that WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE MOST PRIVILEGED IN THE USA – proves that there’s a real fear and hatred there.
    I guess it’s something about football that brings out the real wackos and ignorant jerks.
    I’m glad I live North of the Mason-Dixon line, where by and large there isn’t this barely concealed race hatred.

  99. Ocelot138 says: Oct 15, 2009 4:46 PM

    “to hades with resident zero. the mud hutter doesnt even belong here.”
    Case in point. Why hasn’t empty13 (now slipkid) had his IP banned? He doesn’t even try to hide his racism. But then again, given how some of the dittoheads feel about Rush, they wouldn’t know racism when they saw it – or if they did, they choose to ignore it.

  100. praveen says: Oct 15, 2009 5:04 PM

    The analogy of Soros with Rush is silly. Soros is not on record of using his ideology in making reckless statements on an NFL player on an NFL show. Rush has. There are plenty of conservative equivalents of Soros in sports ownerships. Rush is not that equivalent.

  101. Roynp3 says: Oct 15, 2009 6:20 PM

    Dcninerfan –
    Around 90% is going to government programs? That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard, and lets be clear your post is full of ridiculous statements. You clearly have ZERO understanding of what the potential results of the financial crisis could have been. I’m not going to waste my time arguing with somebody that is so blinded by ignorance and Right Wing talking points that he probably jerks off to pictures of Ronald Reagan. You idiots are so devoid of actual solutions all you can do is scream socialism and hope someone is dumb enough to listen.
    And you know what else? The 49ers suck.

  102. DcNinerFan says: Oct 15, 2009 8:00 PM

    Roynp3 – Typical wackjob liberal talk, my friend. Evade the problems without talking factual information and insult instead. Great job!
    If people would actually take time and read the stimulus bill (yes, I tried, its longer than most epics) you will see that vast majority of funds going to government controlled or to be created government interests. When a large crowd in Detroit almost got into a riot trying to get “Obama money” supplied by the Porkulus Bill, I’d call that socialism. Harkens to an era in the Soviet Union of milk and meat lines. The short term, emergency funds supplied to the Auto industry and the Banks came with a massive provision… Pay back soon or we will own you. If you don’t call that socialism, I don’t know what is, the institutionalizing of private, corporate entities.
    Lets not forget, this WHOLE banking crisis was started with Jimmy Carter passing the CRA or Community Reinvestment Act, forcing banks to hand out loans to people that wouldn’t otherwise qualify (a great ploy by the liberals to get votes, ultimately destroying the proper, capitalistic lending policies and practices), ie, junk loans with absolutely no colateral. Bill Clinton extended its powers during his first term in an effort to buy his second term. It worked, and sure enough, the thing blew up in their faces, then blamed George Bush for everything (like hurricanes, things out of his control). See where I’m going? The liberals in this country scream they want change all the time, but never really think about the consequences. We just have to endure them every 20 to 30 years so people actually remember why they should not be in power.
    49ers are an average team right now, getting better, but its taking time. Thanks for noticing. ;-)

  103. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 15, 2009 8:35 PM

    Rush Limbaugh’s radio show is going to be interesting tomorrow. Still couldn’t pay me to listen.
    Imagine he must have known about this.

  104. Annette says: Oct 16, 2009 9:08 AM

    I don’t like football, but I really Love this country. I certainly hope that the people who do like football will begin to rally for a TRUE market driven economy and not be blind to what is occurring in this country. I always check to see where my money goes before I give it to someone I don’t like or can’t trust. That is how this country is supposed to operate.
    Soros is trying to kill this country!

  105. DcNinerFan says: Oct 16, 2009 11:46 AM

    “And losing by over 30 points to the Seahawks?”
    I’m sorry, but how far back do we need to go? This year is this year, last year was last year. They kicked their butts and broke Hasselback’s rib last time. But if you want to go back in time, then 49ers 5 Superbowl rings. Seahawks none. ‘Nuff said.
    The problem with your tenuous grasp on economics is quite apparent.
    Free market economy drives innovation and rewards those who make wise decisions. It punishes those who don’t. Government intervention stifles innovation and government control stifles competition, creating monopolies of grand proportion.
    Admittedly the deregulation of the banks didn’t work all that hot, however it was because it wasn’t a TOTAL deregulation. The CRA still applied, as did other regulations, so while the banking system was trying to operate under a free market, the government was STILL forcing it to adhere to its own BS regulatory mumbo jumbo. Its really quite simple to understand, so read slowly if you need it.
    Add in the fact that any business in a free market economy that falls under government regulations has its hands tied, so to speak, and you have a problem. Unfortunately, again, the liberals don’t embrace logic, or reason, or even the standard understanding of people in a free market environment. They scream at the top of their lungs about, amongst other things, how a free market economy is racist, biased, bigoted, unfair, etc. etc. etc. That is why the majority of districts that lean heavily to the left have the highest percentages of welfare in this country. They think its UNFAIR that successful people should have money and be rewarded, and want it redistributed (hence the extended provisions of the CRA).
    The liberals in this country reward failure. The conservatives reward success. The liberals like to lie and scream to get their point across, yet refuse to allow themselves to be hurt by it (see Al Gore and his “man made” global warming bit, while simultaneously refusing to give up his limos and private jet trips, which pollute more in one trip than an SUV owner in his entire life, yet Al wants them to give up their SUVs. I don’t like SUVs and never will because I consider them too big, but I shouldn’t, nor should anyone else, demand another to give them up while I am unwilling to give something up that I like). I can give other examples if you like.
    The last thing I will say on the matter, liberals really are the weakest of human beings, wanting more and more government to control the people, to regulate, to take freedom. Conservatives, in general, want less (not none) government. We don’t want to be told how to live our lives. We want the basic of protection and what is necessary of laws. That is the essence of freedom, really. Fascism is the liberal way. I’m not sure what you mean about “your party” because I don’t affiliate with a party. That is where you seem to have a misconception. You can’t see past party lines. Its either Repubes or Demegogs. I’m talking about people, not parties, and their personal sways. Liberals, conservatives (I lean conservative, its obvious) is a better way to look at it. The moderates in this country are what matter, and they aren’t, generally, strongly politically affiliated. It shows in how often they sway.
    Such a lack of basic human understanding, like I said, is a liberal trait. Change for the sake of change, not for a reason. No real direction. No real plan to get where you are going, just a ‘lets see how this works’ attitude and off we go. I’d rather let humanity as a whole and free market economies dictate which way we go. The rest of the world is laughing at Obama, the French of all people are laughing at him, their president as well. He’s a novice and an imbecile. They love him because he is weakening America. When America weakens the rest of the world gains. Its simple. If you hate America so much, and love Obama, why not go off with his cult followers and start your own country? We will watch and laugh as its falls apart like Mother Russia and the 3rd Reich. Oh, and take the illegals with you, they are an even bigger drain on the economy. Have a nice day. :-)

  106. BGALUM says: Oct 17, 2009 8:11 AM

    Honestly…it’s not the comment Soros made about the Bush Administration that should be the icing on the cake.
    Try the fact that he worked with the Nazi’s (all be it part of survival) while in Germany. And the guy still called a US Administration “Nazis”…no matter how bad Bush may or may not have been…the US was NOWHERE near Nazi Germany.
    Let’s put it another way. If Michael Vick buys a large amount of stock in Petco or Petsmart is that okay? Or would employees have to be asked if they would work for a man like Vick? If Leonard Little buys a stock in Molson Coors is that okay? Or would employees of the company be asked if they could work for someone who had killed someone while drunk driving?
    ANYONE should be able to invest in whatever capital venture they choose as long as it is legal. What will be interesting to see is if all potential owners of sports teams will be scrutinized so much now. I really hope not.

  107. wardrobemalfunctions says: Mar 13, 2011 8:28 PM

    Howard Cosell DID NOT say “Look at that little monkey run” when he was referring to Redskins wide receiver Alvin Garrett. Cosell made this remark 11 years earlier in 1972 in reference to a play by Kansas City Chiefs Mike Adamle. It was 1983 on Monday Night Football when Cosell made his comment about Alvin Garrett which was “That little monkey gets loose doesn’t he.”

    Please send me a link to the clip if I am wrong.

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