The Raiders are getting it from all sides this week. Including the inside.
In the same week that Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce said playing against the Raiders “felt like a scrimmage,” Raiders defensive end Greg Ellis spoke about Oakland’s place in the NFL.
“The mood we’re going to be in or should be in, right now we’re kind of
the laughingstock of the NFL,” Ellis said Thursday.
The Raiders are using Pierce’s words as motivation this week, posting his comments outside the locker room door and inside the locker room. Raiders coach Tom Cable addressed the issue of fighting back in a long post-practice meeting Wednesday.
“This isn’t
anything new. Teams have been that way before,” Ellis said. “New England wasn’t
always winning Super Bowls and Dallas wasn’t always the team they are.
So, it goes in cycles. When you’re in that down cycle, you got to fight
and claw to get back out of it and that’s what we’re doing here right
now in Oakland.”
But getting fired up isn’t even half the battle. Even if the team plays with more Raider pride this Sunday, it’s hard to imagine Oakland turning their fortunes around against Philadelphia’s blitzing defense with JaMarcus Russell at quarterback.
Couldn’t have said it better, Greg. Your team is a pathetic excuse of an organization. That said, the City of Denver loves kicking your ass. Keep it up, losers.
“Dallas wasn’t always the team they are.”
Yeah, Greg. At one time they actually WON a playoff game.
This may be the game that Russell gets benched. Or maybe not.
you (ellis), my man, are a very intelligent human being!!!
Hey atleast someone on the Raiders knows what direction they’re going (unlike old man Al Davis)…The team hasn’t had a good draft or signed anybody worth signing over the past few years…clear example of that is signing Deangelo Hall for 7 years and dishing him off after 1 and drafting Jamarcus, who wasn’t even the best QB on LSU (Matt Flynn was better) because Jamarcus played a good final game. This organization will NEVER right the ship as long as Al Davis is there.
“The Raiders are using Pierce’s words as motivation this week, posting his comments outside the locker room door and inside the locker room.”
That is only going to help contribute to more laughing.
No sweat Greg. The Giants play the Redskins again soon enough, you’ll be off the hook in no time.
The entire organization needs an intervention.
Sure it’s a cycle, but it’s the longest damn cycle in the history of the NFL.
Here’s a poll – which one of these will happen against the Eagles?
A) JaBustus throws for more than 100 yards.
B) The offense totals more than 200 yards.
C) The Raiders will have 3+ turnovers.
D) The Eagles will have 4+ sacks.
E) None of the above.
F) All of the above.
No sweat Greg. The Giants play the Redskins again soon enough, you’ll be off the hook in no time.
It’s one thing, that the Raiders offense is terrible, but why is their defense too? There are some good players.
My first thought was how nice Ellis was being. “Kind of”? We are.
That being said, Ellis openly saying that is an encouraging sign. So are Pierce’s comments being stuck up. If this doesn’t fire up their pride, nothing will.
Did anyone else see the report that McNabb is going to seek out Russell before the game and talk to him a bit? How sad is it that other teams are taking pity on the Raiders and trying to offer free helpful advice?
Rock bottom though was the news that the Raiders special teams was breaking the huddle with the chant “1, 2, 3, GET BETTER!”
You can’t make this stuff up. I thought 2006 was rock bottom. I was wrong.
I sure hope they don’t turn it around. I bet the house believing they will lay down and that Philly will cover the 14 point spread.
Wouldn’t it be funny if Greg Ellis ended up with a broken jaw later today?
The ’09 version of the Oakland Raiders are like the monkey cage exhibit when you go to visit the zoo.
In one corner is a lone monkey spankin’ it while demanding eye contact from all the people staring into the cage. In the other corner are a couple of monkeys slap fighting each other, up in the tree are two monkeys having sex at a million MPH, while two other monkeys are picking nits off each other and eating them while waiting their trun. Then there’s the monkey in the back corner, flinging poo every where possible. And way up in the upper reaches of the tree is the old dominate monkey fast asleep and oblivious of the mess that’s going on under him.
I have no words for how pathetic this team is.
Since they are “fired up”, I’ll say the score will be 56-10 Philly. Before, I was predicting 56-3. I hate the Eagles, but Oakland has NO chance with that POS at QB. NY stripped him of the ball when they came from HIS side. It’s one thing if a defender comes from your blind side, but when the guy comes from right in front of you THREE TIMES? That’s just pathetic. He’s making Ryan Leaf look like a HOFer.
They’re not the Lions, but they are close.
Al Davis is the problem. Period. He was once a great man of football and credit should be given to him for his heritage, but the the game has changed. You can not win anymore with just a big arm QB and a fast wideout. He needs to let go and get some fresh minds in there. Last time they had an success was with Grudin, who was able to get a little control over the team. But of course Davis new better and let him go and it has been the Titanic of the league since.
Players and coaches can say all they want about fighting back and trying to turn things around.
Any Raiders turnaround starts when, and only when, JaMarcus Russell is removed from the starting lineup, and preferably from the team.
“Raiders coach Tom Cable addressed the issue of fighting back in a long post-practice meeting Friday.”
Well, Cable knows about fighting. Maybe there will be a rash of broken Eagle jaws Sunday..
There was no young QB worse than Troy in Dallas early on. I think he threw 18 or so picks one year and he had a line and wide receivers.
Russell came out as a JR, and has just turned 24. He almost never took the ball from under center in College and worked out of the shotgun.
Most scouts knew that even with his talent that he would be a project 1st round pick or not. The kid does make some throws that no other QB in the NFL could make.
He plays with 2 rookie wide receivers and a line that does not give him much time, He has been bad but hey I hit one or two bad drives on the golf course and if I do not let it go the rest of my game makes it look like I have never been on a golf course in my life.
Will Russell be a bust?, who knows but it is way to early for that. A QB needs at least 30 to 35 starts before you can really get a handle on them one way or the other. The kid completed 68% of his passes last year in College and 67% of his passes over the last 7 games of last year so the kid can make the throws.
If he has what is needed with work ethic and want to and is strong of mind to climb out of this slump time will only tell. But this kid could be a great if he really wants it bad enough and does the work to get there.
I guess you just dig up old stories because most of your readers are Raider Fans. Typical media….how about how bad KC,Rams,Titans,Tampa,etc….
I guess you dont write about teams that dont have fans anymore like the ones mentioned above..
Speaking of laughingstocks:
Q: What do you call 47 millionaires around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A: The Cleveland Browns.
Q: What do the Cleveland Browns and Billy Graham have in common?
A: They both can make 70,000 people stand up and yell “Jesus Christ”.
Q: How do you keep a Cleveland Browns out of your yard?
A: Put up goal posts.
Q: Where do you go in Cleveland in case of a tornado?
A: To The Browns Stadium – they never get a touchdown there!
Q: What do you call a Cleveland Brown with a Super Bowl ring?
A: A thief.
Q: Why doesn’t Canton have a professional football team? A: Because then Cleveland would want one.
Q: What’s the difference between the Cleveland Browns and a dollar bill?
A: You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill.
Q: How many Cleveland Browns does it take to win a Super Bowl?
A: Nobody knows and we may never find out!
Q: What do the Cleveland Browns and possums have in common?
A: Both play dead at home and get killed on the road!
Thank God for the Raiders.
Signed,
The Redskins
Hey SATAN567 – just so you know, Denver hasn’t exactly kicked the Raiders ass the last couple of years (you might want to look it up) but I sure would like to kick your ass!
Denver fans – the most obnoxious bandwagon jumpers in the league.
Leave it to “Sleazystreet” to turn it into a Cowboy bashing moment. It’s about Da Raidaz dude.
“Dallas wasn’t always the team they are”
Yeah, once upon a time they would win playoff games.
“Yeah, Greg. At one time they actually WON a playoff game.”
More than one time, really. Most teams have had longer droughts, and you don’t have to go very far back to find your Giants’ stretch of 17 years of not even making the playoffs from 1964-1980, and 22 years of no playoff wins from 1959-1980.
yup the raiders are a laughingstock…and my poor chiefs lost to them!! damnit…chiefs are arguably the worst team in the league.
o well, #1 draft pick here we come!
go chiefs!
“Right now we’re kind of the laughing stock of the NFL.”
If you mean “since we lost the Super Bowl by allowing Michael Pittman to rush for 120 yards” by “right now” then yes, I agree.
Hap says: “It’s about Da Raidaz dude.”
Raiders have won a playoff game more recently than Dallas has.
snnyjcbs says:
October 16, 2009 11:31 AM
“The kid does make some throws that no other QB in the NFL could make.”
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You are correct, no other QB in the NFL can consistantly throw passes that are no where near players on either team.
To quote a mike’d up Antonio Pierce, “That quarterback is 300 pounds, legit!”
Wait a minute….the laughing stock of the NFL is clearly the Washington Deadskins. The Raiduhs are a close second though. Imagine that….these two moribund franchises actually play each other this year.
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VoxVeritas says: “22 years of no playoff wins from 1959-1980.”
Given that the current playoff system didn’t exist for a nice chunk of that time, that’s an absolutely asinine comparison to make. For years the championship game was the ONE and ONLY playoff game. It wasn’t until the late 60s that Conference Championship Games were played in the NFL. Big difference between two teams making the playoffs from the ENTIRE NFL and six teams making it from each Conference. Interesting how you ignore that distinction. Yes, the Giants had some miserable years in the 70s. Going back almost forty years. Were you even born then you little troll? Let’s focus on the last decade, since that’s A LOT more relevant to the games that are being played now. What has Dallas done in the span of the last ten years? NOTHING! If the best you can do is go that far back into the past, that’s just sad and pathetic. Using your logic we should classify Dallas today as a racist hellhole because of how minorities were treated in the 60s and 70s. Or bar any public figure from ever visiting Dallas since you folks are known for killing a President. You go back far enough, you sure can dig stuff up. The question is, is it relevant to today? Obviously, no. Keep reaching, Vox. It won’t cover up the fact that your Boys haven’t won a playoff game in over 14 years and struggled to stop that offensive juggernaut known as the KC Chiefs. Now, run back to your myspace page and let everyone know what your “mood” is today.
How did that slob have 13 td’s and 8 picks last yr..
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“This isn’t anything new. Teams have been that way before,” Ellis said. “New England wasn’t always winning Super Bowls and Dallas wasn’t always the team they are. So, it goes in cycles. When you’re in that down cycle, you got to fight and claw to get back out of it and that’s what we’re doing here right now in Oakland.”
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dallas?
“That can be a swing their way eventually. I just hate to be the team that they winned it against.”
bench lazy ass Russell if he can’t move the team in the 1st 3 series. you think gradkowski will be worse?
throw some balls to javan walker too, got $16 million guaranteed tied up there too.
Yo, IWanttoPunchFloriointheFace, yeah, so we split the last two years. Uh, what happened the 5 years before that? Keep coming with the strong statistics. Oh, BTW, way to really put up a strong perfomance in week 3, loser.
Any single person out there that still has the stones to stick up for the raiders is a retard… You are the most laughable franchise that has been around in the last decade… I mean seriously, one of you homos really compared jamarcass the carcass to troy aikman??? You must be effing kidding me!!! Hey, Peyton manning threw a bunch of pics as a rookie too!! Let’s see the rationalization behind that one dummy… Oh, Peyton also threw a bunch of touchdowns that year. Raiders suck!!! Birds win 121-3
It is truly unfortunate when the hardest hitter on your team is the Head Coach. Al Davis has taken a once proud, winning organization and slowly turned it into the “laughing stock of the NFL”. And as long as old Al is still there is will remain that way. He can’t get a decent HC because no one wants to work for him and his draft choices, well just look at this years #1. Nuff said.
At least the Raiders, the Rams and Bucs have been to Superbowls — this decade! Great success and great failure mixed together is better than no success and continuous failure. Browns, Chiefs, Lions, where have you been lately?
@raybin…
“Rock bottom though was the news that the Raiders special teams was breaking the huddle with the chant “1, 2, 3, GET BETTER!”
Hahaha if that’s a joke, it’s brilliant, if that is true, it’s sad
It would be stupid to bench Jamarcus Russell now. The season is over.
What they need to do is fire the offensive coordinator and/or QB coach. The reason why is due to the fact the Russell is not progressing. And in essence, you tell JaMarcus Russell that they were fired because of his poor playing. Put their fates right upon his shoulders.
But you play him for the rest of the season… regardless as to his effectiveness. And at the end of the season, if he still plays terribly, release him and take your financial losses. Then you fire Tom Cable and get a whole new regime: new coaching squad, new QB, etc.
@ Frank Burns…
Thank you. I was going to mention to the Raiders to enjoy the beautiful view they have in Oakland. At least if they are the laughingstock of the league, the view is nice. Now Cleveland, on the other hand, has to look at a brown lake (at least it wasn’t blue the last time I saw Erie)-is that the inspiration for Cleveland’s team name? Anywho, Raiders, don’t get too comfortable with the laughingstock monkier-Cleveland has laid claim to that since Modell fired Saint Paul.
@finsbooyah
Sadly, that is true. Raiders beat reporter Jerry McDonald mentioned it yesterday in his update about the Raiders Thursday practice session.
SATAN567 says:
October 15, 2009 5:54 PM
This is awesome… I can’t think of anything better in life than watching this organization completely fall apart.”
well thats because you clearly have nothing going on for you in your life…maybe one day you will discover women…or venture of your moms couch. Or do something other than watch the broncos while eating mac n cheese out of the pan..good luck.
I wonder how many Raiders fans are practicing their line for after their game, “I want my money back!”
Hmmm?
Well, I dunno, if you look at the net points differential, the Raiders have a big lead on the laughing stock thing.
The Skins are only at -9, since all their games have been close, win or lose. The Raiders, on the other hand, are at a lovely -81, which is good for second-worst in the NFL. They’re getting blown out on a regular basis.
No, Al Davis and JaMarcus Russell are the laughingstock of the league. Rush Limbauh needs to buy the team.
It’s about time to stop posting things about the Raiders.. They are no longer considered a pro football team.. They are done.. Time to move on to news that people care about.. Al Davis will make this team go extinct..
“How sad is it that other teams are taking pity on the Raiders and trying to offer free helpful advice?”
No, way. McNabb is a “brotherhood” kind of QB. He’s one of the more distinguished QBs that started like JaMarcus. A bad passer. I’m sure he’s giving advice out of friendship, not pity.
Feast while you can weaklings.
For those of you that actually are football fans, I apologize. Most of you are true morons.
QB-Russell……..Fat,slow, dumb..with big arm.
HB-Fargas……..Bad legs.
HB-McFadden……Slow,small legs, no heart.
HB-Bush…..wish he had Mcfadden Money..Not playing at pro level
WR-Schelins…..good but average.
WR-Murphy…..Ok, but over rated.
WR-Bey…..Fast, No hands.
TE-Miller….Can catch, can’t block.
T-Barnes……who?
T-Henderson…..who?
T-Green…who?
G-Gallery….Good now, but not at first and now hurt.
G-Carlisle….who?
C-Satele……who?
C-Morris…….who?
DE-Ellis…..Playing great
DE-Seymour…not quite there yet
DT-Kelly….who?
DT-Warren…who?
LB-Brown….who?
LB-Morrison…..having a bad year
LB-Howard….having a bad year
CB-Asomugha…….Over rated the most…he’s garbage
CB-Johnson…….Getting burned all day
CB-Routt……..Kill yourself
FS-Huff…..about time????
SS-Eugene….has done nothing
HC-Cable…..who?
OC-Cable…..who?
DC-Marshall…who?
Come on you guys, these are the facts. We have maybe 3 good players out of 53. Our Coaching staff stinks. And that is without mentioning Al Davis input.
(2-14 if we are lucky.
laughing stock? well maybe the head office, Al Davis for sure…but not the team. That is my opinion.
We have some really great players in a really bad circumstance. Too many coaching changes and too much decision making from an old man past his prime over the last 7 years. I know the comment came from a player…but like I have read in other posts, we are in a bad slump (a 7 year slump)…all teams go through them. I’m not jumping ship. I’m a Raider Fan. Its just who I am.
So I will wait (no matter how many years it takes) for us to get back to the “Just Win Baby” mentality.
If you have to ask my why I love the Raiders…then you don’t understand the question.
A Die Hard, Win-Lose-or Tie, Raiders till I die fan.
THe raiders are one injury away from being a .500 team.
Al Davis’ stroke.
Does this look like a laughingstock to you?
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/jimicos/Football/crazy_al.jpg
Oh… Yeah, I guess it does look like a laughingstock. What about this?
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/jimicos/Football/separated_at_birth.jpg
“Given that the current playoff system didn’t exist for a nice chunk of that time”
What does that matter? The Giants played under the same rules as the rest of the NFL. You’re just trying to grasp for an excuse for decades of crappy football.
“Let’s focus on the last decade”
Why? The NFL didn’t start up in 2000. Why not go back to 1992? How about 1960, since the Cowboys and Giants have both existed since then?
Naw, you’ve got to pare the entire history of the NFL down to your little convenient window or your idiotic smack talk just isn’t as effective, is it? Loser.
“It won’t cover up the fact that your Boys haven’t won a playoff game in over 14 year”
That’s not true. Take off your socks if you’re having trouble ciphering on just your fingers, Jethro. Or maybe you can buy a calculator and calculate how many years it will take for the Giants to win 5 Super Bowls.
And while we’re at it, maybe the cesspool called NYC should be shut down since you idiots killed 3,000 innocent men, women and children that weren’t doing anything more political or controversial than living their lives. Now be extra careful that you don’t shoot yourself while you’re trying to shoot back at me, Cheddar Bob, because we know that you fools can’t handle firearms.
JaMarcus Russel is a bust . Sorry Raider fans with him at QB the Oakland team will never improve.
He has no touch and can’t think quick enough in stressful situations . The defense isn’t as bad as everyone thinks ….their just on the field too long . The Raider offense is also known as the ” 3 and out , ” gang.
VoxVeritas says: “What does that matter?”
I’ll try to break it down for you because you’re too much a simpleton to figure it out. 1 playoff game per year = one chance to win. Multiple playoff games per year = multiple chances to win. For a guy who’s life revolves around playing online computer games, I would have thought you would have had a basic education in math. But I forgot, you are a product of the Kansas school system, so math is probably considered one of the devil’s tools. As for your 3,000 dead comment, say it to my face, you pathetic coward. You think 9/11 is a joke? Come and tell that “joke” in NYC hero. I’ll pay for your airfare. Just say the word.
I love that VOX knows that the Giants are one of the 3 best teams in the league (and will be for a while) while his Cowgirls continue sputtering along with an all star team of losers.
SATAN567 – come on man, seriously. What have the Donkeys done lately? Won exactly one playoff game since the ‘Lucky we got Atlanta, thank you Morten Andersen for missing your first kick of the year so we don’t have to play Minnesota’ SuperBowl.
I’ll try to teach you like I do all the Donkey fans since they are to stupid to understand how the postseason works.
Records don’t matter unless you make the playoffs, dipshit! Talk all you want about your special little 5-0 record…it don’t matter until the month of February and you’re sipping drinks in South Beach. I’m sure you don’t know where that is, so ask someone you know outside of Denver what I’m talking about. If they keep winning, fine – then you have reason to talk…until then, shut the hell up.
It’s not exactly rocket science to figure out the Raiders aren’t making the playoffs, and it ain’t exactly rocket science to figure out that the Donkeys can finish 8-8 (again) and be sitting on the couch next to RaiderNation watching the playoffs (again).
So to sum it up and make it as simple as Denver fans can understand – your record don’t mean shit until you’re buying tickets in February…until then, go pound sand (literally).
# SATAN567 says:
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Where was this clown before the season started? The only Donkey fans posting over the summer were the ones claiming their new coach was one-and-done and their team would be lucky to win 3 games this year. You fair-weather Denver fans can suck it.
J Russell….. Its all yours now buddy
signed: Ryan Leaf
@ Vox
“And while we’re at it, maybe the cesspool called NYC should be shut down since you idiots killed 3,000 innocent men, women and children that weren’t doing anything more political or controversial than living their lives. Now be extra careful that you don’t shoot yourself while you’re trying to shoot back at me, Cheddar Bob, because we know that you fools can’t handle firearms.”
Wow. Have we really gotten to the point where on a sports “smack talk” website someone actually makes a comment like this? 9/11 should not be brought up at all on these pages.
As far as NY being a cesspool goes, apparently you’ve never been. NY is one of the coolest places in the world. There’s no place like it, and this is coming from a Philly boy.
Go Birds, Dallas Sucks!
Senemot says:
WR-Schelins…..good but average.
WR-Murphy…..Ok, but over rated.
TE-Miller….Can catch, can’t block.
Asomugha…….Over rated the most…he’s garbage
CB-Johnson…….Getting burned all day
Come on you guys, these are the facts. We have maybe 3 good players out of 53.
Dude, you are a moron. Good but average? What does that mean? Ok, but over rated? By who? Asomugha is garbage? Seriously? I can think of 31 teams that would love to have that trash can on their roster. You are clueless.
Can’t wait ’til they start winning again so all you losers can go back to whining about the Raiders being “cheaters”