A lot of folks criticized Philadelphia's 3-1 record before Sunday, saying that the wins didn't fully count because they came against Carolina, Tampa Bay, and Kansas City.
Well, Sunday's game in Oakland counts. As a loss.
The Raiders defeated Philadelphia 13-9 because of an inspired defensive performance by Oakland and some shoddy tackling by Philadelphia.
Asante Samuel was one of many Eagles to whiff on a tackle during a 86-yard touchdown catch by Raiders tight end Zach Miller, who is one of the few pass-catchers in Raiders history that was drafted despite his forty time.
JaMarcus Russell threw for 224 yards, with one touchdown and two interceptions. But he played better than Donovan McNabb, who was inaccurate on far too many of his 46 throws.
And while the Raiders offense didn't do a lot in the second half, Justin Fargas converted a number of key first downs in the fourth quarter to help ice the game.
This is a loss that could haunt Philadelphia all season.
In the competitive NFC East, the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys were all counting on two easy victories against the Raiders and Chiefs. The Cowboys almost blew its game in Kansas City last week, but managed to win. Philly wasn't so lucky in Oakland.
The Eagles are undeniably a talented bunch, but there isn't a team that we know less about after six weeks.
Raiders stun Eagles in Black Hole
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 18, 2009 7:42 PM ET
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The Raiders! I am so glad to see they won this game!
wow no negative comments yet? guess it's true all the haters are eagles fans ...
ok i'll go first ....ha ha eagles suck !!!!!
I thought it was going to be a scrimmage against the Raiders.
Eagles are horrible.
I'm no Raider fan, but thank you Oakland!!
Now we can be done with all the misguided hype that is the Eagles. You lost to Oakland!! OAKLAND!! Wow!!
This is why you don't look past any teams. Any given Sunday is what they say. So much for the NFC "BEast" so far these squeaker and awful games make em look like the NFC "LEast". Eagles, 'Skins, and Cowboys are all jokes. Glad my Saints blasted those overrated Jints.
Don't understand why you would call 52 pass plays (46 att/6sacks) & 14 run plays in a game with a final score of 13 - 9.
Bad coaching, see above
Bad QB play, needs to get rid of the ball, and whats with calling time out when you have none?
Bad defensive play, no pressure, bad tackling
Bad receiver play, lot of drops
Anyone seen the dog murdering, illiterate sociopath??---Just win baby!!
Go Raiders!!! The Defense was dominating and played inspired football. I think the Raidernation should send a shout out to Antonio Pierce and ask him how his scrimmage went. I'm also going to overlook your attempt at making this win slightly cheaper by mentioning shotty tackling. Is it really going to kill you to admit that we played a helluva game Florio?
As a Skins fan this takes a little edge off the Skins loss to the Chiefs. I did say a little...
This one is easy to call
Andy Reid- Westbrook avgs 8 yards a carry and you run him 5 times.. or how about waiting till the 3rd quarter to help out the LT.. or how about not running the Wildcat that leads the league in yardage.. 5 yard drops and shotguns on every play
McNabb- WTF.. the 4th timeout call explains it all
Samuel-- nice tackling
Trotter- GTFO
Paper champions every year.
where have all the smart-ass comments from the eagles fans gone now????
Nice offense, Eagirls. I was laughing my ass off watching McCheckdown bouncing 10 yard passes 5 yards away from his receivers.
"The Eagles are undeniably a talented bunch, but there isn't a team that we know less about after six weeks. "
Well we know that they don't belong in the same stadium as good teams. And we know that they are prone to looking past bad teams. All in all looks like they'll be fighting the Deadskins for last place. Yeah please give Reid an extension, his team was utterly and completely unprepared to play the equivalent of a bad JV team this week.
Vox is a cowardly nym-shifting asswipe.
There, got that out of the way.
This site isn't unbalanced at all. Nice post Florio.
Not a single post about the 59-0 romping that NE did.
We know you hate the Eagles. We get it.
Mike Vick, Pet Detective
Possibly the best name to post.
The Eagles played horrible, and became completely one dimensional on offense. Reid has the tenancy to do that on these bad wins. It also didn't help that the officials were TERRIBLE. Philadelphia couldn't but a call from today. I'm thinking specifically of the hit on Akers after the last FG, and the late hit on Jackson when he was 4 yards out of bounds.
"Don't understand why you would call 52 pass plays (46 att/6sacks) & 14 run plays in a game with a final score of 13 - 9."
Because it's like I said, win or lose, Andy wants to pass. He thinks he's got some kinda great passer at QB.
hopefully this slows down any Reid extension talks
that said
Kevin Kolb has a nice future set up for him.. McNabb just takes the beating in the meantime
This game reminded me of the 1st game of the season for the Raiders, against the Chargers.
There were Eagles players scattered all over the field, some face up and some face down.
Seymour completely bitch slapped the whole Eagles O-line, it was a thing of beauty.
Have a look at the Eagles injury report later this week, it's gonna be ugly.
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAHHHHHHH...
It's games like this.....and all the conference championship losses......and McNabb puking in the huddle during the Super Bowl 2 minute drill....and their last league championship happening during the Eisenhower administration....
that make Eagles fans such a bitter, hate-filled lot. I understand. It's really gotta suck.
OAKLAND RAIDERS???
COME ON WHO CARES ABOUT OAKLAND??????????¨COME ON
That is for your Bucs/USF comment John.
this definately takes the edge of the saints thumping of the giants. I'll never understand how everybody always picks the Eagles to go to the SB every year when they are so inconsistant
So I guess signing Ron "the dog killer" mexico is really paying off
PatrickD29 says:
It also didn't help that the officials were TERRIBLE. Philadelphia couldn't but a call from today. I'm thinking specifically of the hit on Akers after the last FG, and the late hit on Jackson when he was 4 yards out of bounds.
How can you even try to blame this on the refs? The Eagles sucked today, the Raiders deserved the win.
No Philly couldn't buy a call, like the phantom PI that stole another TD from the Raiders? Like the crap-ass spot they gave Jackson on 3rd and 10 reception? Like the no call on the tripping on Seymour?
I could go on, but just admit we beat you and move on.
Figures the Raiders don't get any credit for the win. It's Eagles sucked at this, didn't play well at that. How about giving the Raiders defense some credit? They put pessure on McNabb for most of the game, had 6 sacks and got screwed on a horrible call by the refs on an interception that went for TD. Yes the offense didn't play all that well... but well enough to win the game with a good defensive stance at home.
Justin Fargas had ONE first down in the forth quarter. It came on what was already first down.
Try two big conversions by Gary Russell, if you are going to write about something at least have a clue. Typical Raiders BS coverage.
Hm... McNabb going to cry if the media question him if Kobb may be the better start? Probably. Then he'll call them racist or something.
"Vox is a cowardly nym-shifting asswipe."
Right, because only one person could not like the Eagirls and Steelers at the same time.
And Eagirls fans continue to prove themselves to be the dumbest animals on the planet. How did it feel to watch Russell outplay McCheckdown? It was the RAIDERS, man! THE FREAKING RAIDERS!
Oh damn somebody needs to put all dogs in the Philly area into the witness protection program!
"there isn't a team that we know less about after six weeks"
It's the same every season for the Eagles. The question is, when they get hot in December, will they have dug themselves into too deep a hole already? If not, it's a good season for the Eagles.
The Vick cancer is taking hold.
Cut it before it spreads.
Haha, at those who say Eagurls a SB contender in the NFC Least = 0-3 today.
Wow, I think the Eagles suck as much as my Skins. At least Campbell knows about OT's and that you only get 3 time outs haha.
Completely no mention of JRuss's good day. Eat your crow quietly there Einstein.
And before you go all sports CPA on me, and say he threw two picks, one was a major drop/tip.
Not that the stats matter much anyway, he just performed better. But you never watch the games, so just read a box score, turn on BSPN, call Peter King and Mike Silver and write a worthless article based in fantasyland
The Russell to Russell combination was huge for us today.
Gary Russell is quite the young back, I think he will stick here.
PatrickD29, I agree about the officials. They absolutely butchered that pass interference call where they took the touchdown away from the Raiders.
Cable said we need to start winning or they are going to throw me in jail. Headline tomorrow: Charges will not be filed against Cable due to insufficient evidence.
Westbrook averaged over 8 yds per rush, yet Andy calls 52 pass plays & 14 rushes...WTF?
McKnabb gets sacked 6 times & Andy calls 52 pass plays in a game where the winning team has 13 stinking points, again WTF?
Ok, so i missed your nano paragraph about JRuss. You still are ignoring a nice team effort by the Raiders by throwing your arms in the air like you can't understand what happened.
Although it was a bad loss for the Eagles, I would hardly call it a haunting loss. The Cowboys are pretenders and will fade. They will just kick themselves tomorrow because they could have been in first place since the Giants got their doors blown off by the Saints like they did in week 2. Also, they all have more bye weeks coming up against the Redskins.
Mike is quietly calculating his approach on the report on NE vs. TEN. Here Mike I'll help you out with that post. "Wow." Let the Brady praising begin! He still isn't back btw, anyone could pick that shotty defense apart. Tom, try picking apart the number 1 defense in the NFL, then we'll say you're back.
Drew Brees- 2009 NFL MVP, 2009 Offensive Player of the year
Darren Sharper- 2009 Defensive MVP
Who Dat?!
I liked the 4th and 1 pass play call to Murphy, even though it was incomplete. Cable shows some nuts every once in a while in his play calling.
Good win to at least slow the bashing of the Raiders. I'm sure it'll return soon, though.
@VoxVeritas says: October 18, 2009 8:04 PM
Why won't you address the fact that you were busted using a different screen name?
You troll the Steelers threads posing as "steeler-hater", sounding off like you were an eighth grader, and laughing at your own comments, like a mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, chromosome-deficient, inbred retard.
Are you really that fucked up?
Never mind...
Go Raiders!!
Where are the Eagles fans? I thought this was in the bag, a sure win by 33?
I am sure that the Titans will still be ranked higher than us this week since they are the best 0-5 oh I mean 0-6 team out there!
The question is....Why is everyone always calling the Raiders dysfunctional, when there are teams that can't win a game like the Titans and Bucs?
Quit hating... I know my Raiders are not a good team but can some of these other teams get the attention?
Also last but not least I have to give a shout out to the worst network out there... ESPN and that sorry homer gorilla look alike, big nose (takes up my whole screen) bad fade for an analyst Tom Jackson!!!.....Also Boomer, what the hell kind of nick name is that? and Chris "Bubble Eyes" Carter.....The only 2 guys that have a clue are Key and the Coach.
Later....and Florio don't delete my comment!!!!
It will be nice not having to listen to Eagles fans tomorrow at work. Thank you Raidernation for FINALLY giving us something to cheer about. I live in the Northeast and was SERIOUSLY considering a jump to the Giants.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Eagles, Giants and Redskins all lose! Another great day as a Cowboys fan. How do you lose to the Raiders?
It's been said but I have to reiterate. Horrible offensive play calling.
Reid does this kind of thing several times every season. It's why a team with 11 or 12 win talent usually ends up with 8-10 wins. He's never been a good game day coach and apparently he's never going to learn how to become one.
Lets get real, the Raiders sacked the Eagles 6 times which is the same amount of sacks the Eagles have given up total before playing the Raiders. The Raiders hurried the QB 15 times and knocked him around another 18 times.
The Raiders shut down your run game and that is why you passed so much but the only problem was the Raiders shut down the pass game and took the Eagles WRers out of the game holding the Eagles without a TD for the first time this year.
Lets not forget that these Raiders were only the second team to gain over 100 yards against the Eagles this year and the score really should have been 20 to 9 if not for the bull shit call taking down a Raider pick for a TD.
These Raiders are very young and show up here and there and you never know which team will show up.
But I will tell you this, when the Raiders finally figure out how good they really can be and the babys start to play to their talent they will play with anyone.
And last I eat the shit as I did early on with Nnamdi with Russell. But know this, the kid will not only become a goos QB in the NFL he will become a great one.
The kid has just turned 24 and all he has to do is clears his mind and gets out of his own way. You protect this kid some and get him some help from the wide outs when this kid finally settles in he is going to be lights out.
Phildo, to answer your question about the Wildcat... When they ran it, they lost yards. Not too hard to figure out. Most plays out of the Wildcat are run plays. They couldn't run today with the way the D-line was playing.
@@VoxVeritas says: October 18, 2009 8:16 PM
LMAO
Vox CowTows haven't won a playoff game in 13 years, and he thinks that gives him the right to rag on somebody's else's team.
priceless
The longer McNabb's career lasts, the more Rush Limbaugh looks right. As usual.
But I guess that just makes me a racist.
Vox is a POS, we all know that.
Lets keep on topic and talk about the butt kicking the Raiders gave the Eagles today.
This is what Philly does.. they let horrible QBs look good
They let Tampa and Oakland's QBs look like possible franchise QBs
Andy Reid should also be shot for the simple fact that in 10 years he has yet to draft a decent OLB.. In fact, he doesn't give an ish about them.. Hence every TE looking like Shannon Sharpe against their def..
Great win, but LONG WAY to go...Hope they can keep it going and get Schilens, Gallery, and Nick Miller back real soon and keep building and developing the talent on the team.
Would really like to see McFadden return kicks and do some Wildhog/Wildcat formations when he gets back. Would impove our KR and take some of the pressure off JR and give opposing defenses something extra to game plan.
Great to be part of Raider Nation today and everyday!!!!
Maybe the "experts" can leave the Raiders alone for a week and tear into another team like the Browns, Titans, or that team the Saints "scrimmaged" with today down in the Big Easy (name of that team escapes me right now).
Andy Reid couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. My buddy and I called that last play where Gary Russell got the first down on 3rd and 10. We knew it was coming because it worked everytime the Raiders tried it. Of course, the Eagles played it liked they hadn't seen the play before.
He was gone last year after the Ravens lose. Then, they made that great run to the NFC Championship Game that saved his job. I almost wish they hadn't.
I don't blame McNabb because no QB can be effective when there is no threat of a running game. Really, is there anything funnier than McNabb running play action on 3rd and 10?
I think, to be fair, that Florio needs to post a headliner about McNabb not knowing there were no TO left for the Eagles at the end of the game. After all he excoriated Romo because Romo 'might' have thought it wasn't 4th down (an assertion later proved to be absolutely false) and made snarky comments about a 'franchise QB can't lose track of the number of downs - EVER. I'm waiting for an equally snarky pot about how a franchise QB can't lose track of the number of timeouts his team has taken -- EVER.
LOL.
Wow I thought I was having a bad day lossing to the Aints
But damn the Raiders
We beat them with the water boy and valet when we played them Eli was on the bench for most of the game
Fly Egals fly
Oh and well done redskins you guys are like a cure all for the 0 fore teams
Iggles showed their stuff today. Please summon the ghosts of Van Brocklin, Bednarik and Tommy McDonald! Another 50 years before these testicle lovers win a title. Oh well, at least you Philly fans can watch baseball. What losers!
If it had been the Cowboys and Tony Romo who lost this game, Florio and 97% of the commenters would be wetting themselves to be the first to post how this was a sign of football apocalypse.
But because it was the blessed 5 NFC Championship loss Eagles and Don McNabb, it's obnly a minor character abrasion.
I am sick of hearing that this Eagles team is a superbowl contender, they are marginal at best. out played and out coached by possibly the worst team in the NFL.
until today they beat up on weak teams and lost to a good team. Today they simply sucked, in all phases of the game.
JSpicoli says:
October 18, 2009 8:18 PM
Completely no mention of JRuss's good day. Eat your crow quietly there Einstein.
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Seriously if this is a good day for JaMarcus ... there is no way he should be playing. Even Josh Johnson playing in his second start threw for 2 TDs and over 200 yds passing against the Eagles.
If you think putting up 13 points is a good day for a QB ... think again.
today's game was a perfect example of why andy reid hasn't won a super bowl.
# Real Football Fan says: October 18, 2009 8:21 PM
They will just kick themselves tomorrow because they could have been in first place since the Giants got their doors blown off by the Saints like they did in week 2.
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Hmm, let's see.
Week 2 Dallas vs Giants 33-31 with the Giants having to make a strong run in the last two minutes to overcome the Cowboys.
Giants vs Saints 48-27 where the Giants were blown away from the opening kickoff
Clearly your understanding to the term 'getting your doors blown off' is sadly lacking.
All the eagirls fans wouldnt stop talking shit about the cowboys having trouble with the chiefs. wow!!
Raideralex is stuck on sports CPA.
Get over the stats, and watch the games. Stats are a TOOL. So are you.
Oakland had the better line play today. It's not surprising on the defensive side, but the Eagles got beat on both sides of the ball, and McNabb was clearly outplayed by McBustell. And the Raiders mostly did it without their best defensive player. I missed the play that took out Asomugha, but since they didn't show any replays, it must have been a Moe Howard. Still, Philly fan will cry about the officials or the pressure of playing in the NFC East. That is what they do when they lose. Nation.
Congratulations are in order to Darrius Heyward-Bey, who caught his SECOND pass in six games, putting him on a pace to catch FIVE passes this year.
Fabulous pick, Al.
"Also, they all have more bye weeks coming up against the Redskins."
Same Redskins that swept the Eagirls last year, right?
My Sunday is now complete. All three NFC East teams lost leaving the Boys a chance to do something...anything. They'll probably whiff on it but hope springs eternal. Don't know which of the three I liked the most...wait, yes I do. Raiders kicking that A$$!! Beautiful!!
Took away a whole lot of the pain from getting whooped by the Saints. Thank you Raiders! Needed a good laugh at the Eagles' expense
"Lets keep on topic and talk about the butt kicking the Raiders gave the Eagles today."
Not only that, let's talk about McCan'tCount's 4th timeout. OK so he doesn't know that games can end in a tie, doesn't know you only get 3 timeouts per half. Check. Down. Checkdown. Get it?
hahaha
Glad to see a solid Raiders win today. Still gotta say there is a long way to go, but nice to see us on the right track at least. Schedule gets pretty tough for the next few weeks, so we need to take this effort and build on it. "Eagles did not play well" is a cop out. The Raiders gave a great defensive effort. Most teams dont look like they play well when the other team plays much better. We don't do it often, but we do deserve a little credit for grinding it out, and flat out showing up this week. Next couple weeks will tell a lot about both of these teams. For the record, Andy Reid is no slug, and I would gladly take him in Oakland in some facet of the organization. It took Oakland 5 years to PRACTICALLY give up on our team.....and Eagles fans talk shit about us? Wow! I only hope we can continue to develop Russell into a good QB. I have had my doubts this season, I have to admit. He looked serviceable today, but let's not get crazy yet.
OK, Poop Eating Monkey - it was his third catch in 6 games...get your stats right you frickin' missing gene moron.
And also, please think of something more original that other people haven't mentioned 956 million times before.
By the way, how's the new trailer - liking it?
Rush Limbaugh said something like...the media just wants a black QB to do well and succeed.
He was right.
McNabb = OVERRATED
Bill in DC makes a great point.
Hey Florio, do "franchise" QBs not know that a game can end in a tie in your opinion?
Do "franchise" QBs try to call a 4th timeout in your opinion?
What if it's one guy that doesn't know that a game can end in a tie AND tries to call a 4th timeout? "Franchise" QB or not? What was that you said about Romo? Oh yeah.
"Maybe he's just not smart enough to be a high-level NFL quarterback. Even if it was a temporary release of brain gas, the fact remains that franchise quarterbacks don't make that mistake. Ever."
the day started out great, kc knocks off washington.......then it got better watching brees give the midgets a facial with no reach around.... only to conclude with the biggest laugher of the 2009 season, a total EMBARESMENT on the national stage......hahahaha, can you say exposed!
9 points.....c'mon man 9 points !!!!!!!!! PLEASE give reid that extension...... jeffy draw the paper work up tonight.... you and banner can go to chicky an petes and cry in your crab frys with the rest of the losers ........ just extend andy and mc scab, please..... dont worry, tomorrow missineli, eskin an swartz will have all the excuses for the loss, hehehe .... oh yea, good luck
with the next six scrimmage games, l-o-s-e-r-s
# BroadStreet says: October 18, 2009 3:49 PM
Why are you even reading this? I guess there's nothing to read or write about on the Raiders page.
How can you make comments about the Giants, when you're team couldn't even beat USC right now?
Dallas Sucks, Go Birds!
VoxVaginas,
doesn't matter. Eagles will still make the playoffs, Cowboys won't.
@KaiserSoze
What? why do teams play? to win championships. How many have the eagirls won and when was the last time? I really cant believe the eagirls lost to the raiders after all the crap talking about the cowboys-chiefs game. mcnabb and jamarcus looked like they switched jersey's before the game.
The Titans just got DEMOLISHED by the Patriots today (59-0) and some idiots still say that the Raiders are possibly the worst team in the league. How is that even possible? There's a handful of teams that have not won a game and the Raiders (2-4) are possibly the WORST team in the league.
XD LOL
I bet the guys who say shit like this want Limbaugh to be their teams NFL Owner!
LOOKS LIKE RUSH WAS RIGHT ABOUT MCFLAB
The Raiders kciked our ass. No excuses but plenty of questionable items.... Why would Leonard Weaver be in to pick up blitz the McCoy obviously could not? Why pass so much?
The Raiders definitely came to play today.
Congrats Raiders. You earned that one.
Poo flinger,
Because all draft choices either pan out or not within 6 games, especially rookie WR's.
Turn in your fan card, now.
Funny how the dysfunctional, amatuer and irrelevant Raiders team has the article that generates 5X the comments of any other article here.
It's because the real fans of the team have had it up to here with the treatment by the media, and because the haters are jacking off to their, unexplained, concentration on the Raiders.
As my bro Invaduh says
GFY
Im not wasting my time reading 86 Eagle hating comments, so, I'd just like to say I place the blame solely on the coaching .
One can only chuckle at the Eagles.
The over rated McNabb was under 50% and had no TD's.
The convicted felon Vick rushed for negative yards.
2 of 16 on 3rd down against the Raiders.
Chuckle.
LOL at Raiders fans thinking this one game somehow means JaMarcus Leaf is going to blossom into a good QB. Enjoy this one Raiders fans........because your team is still headed in the wrong direction. Nice win, but you beat a badly over-rated squad today that hadn't yet beaten anybody worth mentioning this year. And Richard Seymour will still be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the year and sign elsewhere.
As for you Vox, your team barely squeeked by the Chiefs so i wouldn't be beating my chest too hard if I were you. Your Cowboys will still miss the playoff tourney this year.
"Justin Fargas had ONE first down in the forth quarter. It came on what was already first down."
A double-secret first down?
Donovan McNabb said he didn't know you could lose to the Raiders.
"PatrickD29 says:
October 18, 2009 8:03 PM
The Eagles played horrible, and became completely one dimensional on offense. Reid has the tenancy to do that on these bad wins. It also didn't help that the officials were TERRIBLE. Philadelphia couldn't but a call from today. I'm thinking specifically of the hit on Akers after the last FG, and the late hit on Jackson when he was 4 yards out of bounds. "
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You've got to be kidding!!! A fan of a team playing against the Raiders arguing that the Raiders were helped out by the refs? Now I've seen it all.
How about the phantom pass interference call on Routt's pick-6, followed by a 15-yard penalty on Cable for arguing!?!? As if coaches don't rip the officials a new one about a dozen times per game and never, never does it get called.
And how about Philly's LT blatantly tripping Seymour in clear vision of everyone in the stadium on Philly's last drive and it goes completely unflagged.
And on an early 50+ yard pass play by Philly Gerard Warren was getting held for 3-4 seconds and holding his arms up in the air the whole time as to say 'hello, look at me I'm being completely held for 5-10 yards as I should be making a sack.'
The two late-hit calls you're crying about were a couple of flop jobs. End of story.
To all Raider fans, I apologize. I said there was no way Philly could lose to Oakland. I was obviously wrong. Last week, I saw a team that quit. This week, they played with heart. Congrats!
Wow, the Eagles must really suck to lose to those turds...
This must be one of those cases of the blind squirrel...
If the Raiders could show up every week like they did in the opener vs. SD and again this week they'd be in the mix as an 8-8, 9-7 team.
But even in the KC game, which they won, followed by three blowoutlosses, they were flat and the Chiefs basically gift-wrapped that one.
Once Schilens gets back the offense is going to get a turbo charge and you'll actually see some big completions to the WRs.
McNabb has always been overrated.
(OMG, am I a racist now?)
Jason Campbell has put up pretty good numbers overall, but has been unable to win games consistently.
(Wow, I guess I must be!!)
Well, all you fellow NFC East fans out there -- looks like we all took our lumps today. At least NY got beat by a GOOD team!
Whats funniest of all is the Phillies scored more points than the Eagurls today.
11 - Phillies
9 - Eagurls
Hey Captain Fagtastik - I don't see any votes of confidence from Raider fans for JaBustus in these posts...just congtratulations for a job well done by the defense (and deservedly so). I also didn't hear anyone saying the Raiders are heading in the right direction.
You are just a piss-ant little dweeb has to wash his mommy in the tub on Saturday nights because you can't get a date...stop the anger Fagtastik and you just might get a date with the man of your dreams!
This doesn't really change my opinion of the Eagles very much. It seems to be about the status quo: they play most games just fine, have a few brilliant wins, and a couple real head-scratching losses (and a tie). Reminds me of last season. Whatever. They were competent last season, and I'm sure they will be this season.
Real Football Fan says:
"The Cowboys are pretenders and will fade."
Oh okay, you big knowledgeable analyst. It's week 6 and your calling it out like that. You should probably change your screen name to bias or unrealistic football fan you hater.
At this point of the year you know nothing bout nothing sucka a$$ football fan!
I was watching one of the post-game shows, and some PC, guilt-ridden, white lib - I THINK it was Marilyn Hoge - just went ON and ON about how this loss was NOT McNabb's fault.
Pathetic.
Congrats Raiders, job well done. You punched us in our mouths today.
Now to all those saying that the Eagles are over hyped and not a SB contender...um...it was a lose. We're still 3-2. The Giants were 10-6 in 2007, the Pats were 11-5 in 2001 when they won the SB. It's a long season.
For all you tech savvy guys who know how to cut and paste, go ahead, cut this and post it November 9th.
Google "Vox Veritas"
Click on the first link that comes up.
Hey, Vox. Are you so mean to Eagles fans because you're mad about being a virgin? I mean, you are UGLY. But I'm sure there's gotta be a woman willing to sleep with you!
Hey, hope you find someone in Ausin to play Magic: The gathering with!
Lets take a looksy at what a great impact Vick has done so far for the Eagurls.
Chiefs: 1 rush 7 yards, 0/2 passing
Bucs: 4 rush 10 yards, 1/3 passing 1 yard
Raiders: 1 rush -4 yards
So against bottom feeder teams with poor defenses his overall stats are:
6 rushes 13 yards, 1/5 passing 1 yard
Clearly the acquisition of the off season, the Bears should have pursued him instead of Cutler.
Muahahahahaha.
"Eagles, Giants and Redskins all lose! Another great day as a Cowboys fan. How do you lose to the Raiders?"
The same way your cowgirls will lose on Thanksgiving!
Brian Dawkins would've made that tackle.
Oh wait, you guys laughed at his modest contract request so now he's playing for the real #1 defense in Denver.
But hey, at least you got Ron Mexico.
# VoxVeritas says: October 18, 2009 9:43 PM
Bill in DC makes a great point.
Hey Florio, do "franchise" QBs not know that a game can end in a tie in your opinion?
Do "franchise" QBs try to call a 4th timeout in your opinion?
What if it's one guy that doesn't know that a game can end in a tie AND tries to call a 4th timeout? "Franchise" QB or not? What was that you said about Romo? Oh yeah.
"Maybe he's just not smart enough to be a high-level NFL quarterback. Even if it was a temporary release of brain gas, the fact remains that franchise quarterbacks don't make that mistake. Ever."
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Wow. Somebody sure held a grudge after Florio insulted his boyfriend more than two weeks ago.
PatrickD29
please tell me your serious... how bout that horrible call on oakland when the picked mcnabb that wasnt pass interference.. should of been pick six...
Someone tell Florio to read BillinDC's comment, and post a story on it. Now.
Bill In DC
i agree but he cant talk bad about mcnabb or ppl will say hes racist
Wow, all this for my Raiders? I can understand it coming from Viking Fans, Philly Fans and the like. I mean when has your teams ever really did anything?
Here is a question, what was the Raiders regular season record 13 years ago?, Philly's?, or the Vikes? The magic words are who gives a shit and who cares. You people try and come off like you are fans of world beaters instead of the have a few good years here and there but fold like a tent when the bucks are on the line and it counts for anything teams you are.
You really have to love my Raiders, any other team that has played as bad as the Raiders have over the last bunch of years no one gives two shits about. No comments and if any most just by their fans.
But those Raiders sure can stir the pot. I really cannot blame you, most grew up watching your teams getting thumped by the Raiders And for you Philly and Vikes fans the big bad Raiders stold your Gold when it mattered and stole your Glory how sad and what scares that can brand on a person, some for life lol.
It can stain you as a child, like a bad stepfather, they live inside your head. The Raiders will continue to grow and so will J Russell. Today was one game but what a sweet game it was, watching the look in the eyes of those Philly players. The Raiders will rise back with some time to the top, hell they are young. Hell they have been there before as an organization.
They thumped the Philly's today and they have not even found the upper gears on their offense yet. Game should have been 20-9 if not for the NFL game fixers and that phanthom PI call taking down a clear Raider TD on a pick. And we know, rule twenty five thousand says that, more NFL bull shit. Call it like it is, the NFL has put a game twist just a bit this way or just a bit that way so they can help push the teams that they want to push and stop or hinder the teams they want to hinder so they can try and put a select group of teams at the SB table all for the dollar. You can ask the Ravens about what happens when you should knock off New England in a game. They can tell you better than me. But back to the subject, just think what type of score you can look forward to once the Raiders break the baby in on offense and can let her run? It will happen you can count on that.
Last to the big mouth Philly fans that cannot take a loss without diggs. We thumped your asses in the Super Bowl years back. Last time when you were in Oakland with Gruden as OC we did not just thump you, we blew your asses out 48 to almost 0. Hey, that should be your teams slogans, "ALMOST". I mean it would fit your teams to a book would it not. And we thumped your asses today.
For fans of a team or teams that have never won a Super Bowl you sure are a bunch of blow hards. Raider Rock my friends, Raider Rock.
I would rather live as a dog chained in Al Davis's back yard than to live as a King with any other team. I cannot take the Chicken caps, goat horns or Pigeon shit you guys wear on your heads. And you say we wear funny shit, go figure.
"As for you Vox, your team barely squeeked by the Chiefs so i wouldn't be beating my chest too hard if I were you."
ok first things first. You ain't me, so stop dreaming. Secondly, barely squeaking by the Chefs is better than getting your ass kicked by the Raiders.
"doesn't matter. Eagles will still make the playoffs, Cowboys won't."
jan van dickface: doesn't matter if the Eagirls make the playoffs, they're not gonna win the Super Bowl for the 44th year in a row.
Philly looked like Dallas out there!!
1) The Eagles haven't been able to cover the TE since Carlos Emmons left after 2003. This needs to be fixed.
2) Why the hell isn't Jon Runyan signed to a contract?
3) I'm personally ready to write this year off. I crowned King Kolb last year. I'll give 5 my luggage and help him pack. Then I'll drive his ass to Tennessee. Unless that is too close to Jacksonville. Wouldn't wanna send him somewhere he will only vomit in the 4th quarter.
I am a die hard EAGLE FAN no doubt about it, But I pride myself on being a realistic fan as well. The EAGLES suck a big one....just being real about it. It is almost like they got paid to lose...not making excuses at all it just looked that way.....RAIDERS played a hell of a game.....Andy Reid cannot make game time adjustments ....quit trying to script plays .!!!!!! Eagles will lose monday night to redskins too....because it is a game they should win...the EAGLES always play to the level of compeition it makes me soo dam sick!!!!!!! RUN THE DAM BALL!!!! it is not rocket science !!!!!! .....sorry to say I will be surprised if the birds make the playoffs.....Just being real!!!!!
that was one horrible display in Oakland, The Raiders finnaly showed some pride today. I only wish that they would have waited till next week.
HA, The Eagles had better get thier Act together because they are coming into the Meat of the Schedule form now on and if they play like that again they may as well give up. But I don't think that they will give up, it's time to straighten up and play ball !!!
Come on Florio, don't you think that this post deserves an answer? You can talk that kind of trash about a hispanic QB, are you afraid to hold a black QB to the same standards?
Hey Florio, do "franchise" QBs not know that a game can end in a tie in your opinion? Do "franchise" QBs try to call a 4th timeout in your opinion? What if it's one guy that doesn't know that a game can end in a tie AND tries to call a 4th timeout? "Franchise" QB or not?
It doesnt say much for the Oakland coaching staff when it took a Ny Giants player(pierce) to motivate the Radiers to play up to their potential.
@ Vox Veritas
Geez, you don't know when to quit. Call us when that hispanic QB carries his team to 5 NFC Championship Games and 1 Super Bowl.
Hey Mattitude... Call me when "Franchise" McCheckdown has a firm grasp of the basic rules of the game.
And while you're at it, tell Trotter that he's beyond washed up. Two wasted roster spots on hasbeen Trotter and never-was Vick, gotta love it.
Goddamn the Eagles suck but fortunately for them they get to play the worst team in the league this week.
Vox, how far away is Romo from that highly-coveted Most Passing Attempts record for a Dallas QB that you brought up? I assume the eyes of the world will be fixated on his Gomer Pyle grin when he breaks that not-so-obscure-and-difficult-to-achieve-only-because-a-homosexual-Cowboys-fan-decided-to-bring-it-up record.
Branephood -- I bet you the Eagles lose to skins....after losing to Raiders no team in the NFL is going to respect the birds.......
PatrickD29 you think the refs were biased against the eagles? that is down right funny! the refs sucked both ways.
great game for the raiders. great coaching job for once. they showed up and played emotional and inspired defense.
hope they can keep it up!
I'm an Eagles fan but this one was hard to watch, however:
1. Team's performance in November and especially December usually determine a team's playoff chances
2. The Eagles were left for dead last year and made a run to the NFC Championship
3. The refs had nothing to do with them losing
4. Reid needs to stop passing 70 % of the time, especially against one of the worst rush defenses in the league and you are averaging almost 5 yards per carry in that game
I expected a hammering on here because let's face it we deserve it, but Cowboys fans especially Vox have nothing to say. Your team has played just as shitty as ours. Besides I'd rather be the team that has lost 4 NFC title games in the past decade than the team who hasn't won a playoff game.
Now I'll wait for all the Cowboys fans to talk about how many rings they won before I was born or when I was in elementary school
How can McNabb not know how many timeouts.....How can Reid throw the ball 70% of the time again....How many times can Reid say he was outcoached? How many times do we ask these questions? As long as this shit continues as it has for years, they are going to lose games they should win....Pathetic
ROTLF. Remember when the Eagles were the shoe-in for the division because the Giants didn't get a tall receiver. Remember when everybody in the media said yup it's true. Not lookin' so smart now. If you guys stink this bad against the Raiders, this is gonna be along season for a team with the toughest schedule in the league! Thanks for taking some of the sting out of the Giants loss!
Raiderssss!!!!!!
VoxVeritas says:
October 19, 2009 5:38 AM
"As for you Vox, your team barely squeeked by the Chiefs so i wouldn't be beating my chest too hard if I were you."
ok first things first. You ain't me, so stop dreaming. Secondly, barely squeaking by the Chefs is better than getting your ass kicked by the Raiders.
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He's not you, and I'm sure he thinks that's a very good thing.
We've all seen your Myspace page (Google "Vox Veritas" - it's the first link). I mean, why would anyone WANT to be you. I'm surprised you want to be you.
But hey, maybe you have a really good Magic: The Gathering collection. Fugly troll.
Vox says:
"Come on Florio, don't you think that this post deserves an answer?"
Big talk for a guy who consistently ignores me calling you and your Myspace Page out, over and over, because you can't answer for being an ugly, mean-spirited virgin.
http://tiny.cc/yaYcs
Curious how all the attention to Vick is affecting teammates. For someone that plays in 2 snaps a game it has to start wearing on them sometime.
"ROTLF"
If you're going to use an acronym, don't you at least have to know how to spell it?
Easy to sum up...Bad Coaching on Eagles Part...Bad Execution on Eagles part...Bad officiating toward the Eagles on the Refs Part...Really...How can you let J-Rus toss the ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage to the sidelines while in the pocket and not flag it??? And that Late hit to D-Jack with no flag... The Oak off line was holding on every play and never got called. I watched the game with a Dallas fan and wanted the Eagles to Lose and even he said that got shafted on the Calls...It was Horrible! So my Answer is:
Bad Coaching + Bad Execution + Bad Calls = Eagles Lose!
just saw where raiders might be getting gruden back on raidersbeat.com
GO RAIDERS
This truly warms my heart.