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Pats bounce Banta-Cain

A day after the Patriots created a widespread case of head scratching by deactivating linebacker Adalius Thomas, the Pats have sent fingers back to scalps throughout the football-watching world by cutting linebacker Tully Banta-Cain.

Per a league source, the Pats cuts the veteran defender on Monday.

“New England cutting him doesn’t make sense,” the source said.  “He was playing pretty well for them.”

Banta-Cain was drafted by the Patriots in 2003.  He signed with the 49ers in 2007.  San Fran cut him in February 2009, and he re-signed a week later with the Patriots.

He appeared in all six regular-season games, starting twice.

Because the trade deadline has not passed, Banta-Cain will not pass through waivers.  However, he’ll be entitled to collect the remainder of his $620,000 base salary as termination pay, even if he signs with another team.

UPDATE:  Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News actually had this news posted a few minutes before us, so failure to give him credit for being first to the party could trigger an episode of bad karma.  Archer raises the point from the perspective of whether it makes sense for the Cowboys to pursue him.

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  1. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 6:05 PM

    Didn’t know that games could end in a tie, tried to call a 4th timeout with his team in scoring position at the 15. Franchise QB? Or no? That’s twice that he’s hurt his team because he didn’t know these very basic rules of the game. First time he played with no urgency, like there was going to be another OT period. Second time he cost his team 5 red-zone yards with like 35 seconds in the half. Of course they had to settle for a field goal instead of a TD. Four point differential, not coincidentally the same margin by which his team lost the game.
    Is Donovan McNabb as dumb as he looks?
    “Maybe he’s just not smart enough to be a high-level NFL quarterback. Even if it was a temporary release of brain gas, the fact remains that franchise quarterbacks don’t make that mistake. Ever.”
    You should comment on this, Florio. Do you have something against hispanics or are you afraid that the Rainbow Coalition will beat down your door if you dare to criticize McNabb and his repeated and proven lack of intelligence?

  2. chief says: Oct 19, 2009 6:09 PM

    ladies and gentlemen, your newest Kansas City Chief.

  3. SmackMyVickUp says: Oct 19, 2009 6:09 PM

    Eagurls need a linebacker that can catch the slowest tight end in the league in a 80 yd dash.
    I wouldn’t rule them out of the chase either.

  4. sim448 says: Oct 19, 2009 6:23 PM

    pats fan. why would they do this? this move makes no sense, unless someone like crable is coming off of the pup list, or there is a deal in the works. i just dont like this move…. they also might want to use adalius thomas as strictly a rusher, and they might have had to make a choice between the 2. odd. always keep us on our toes, bill.

  5. blackglass says: Oct 19, 2009 6:37 PM

    Seeing how Crable was IR’ed, him coming off the PUP would be incredible.

  6. iambruce says: Oct 19, 2009 6:38 PM

    I was listening to Moving the Chains on Sirius radio this afternoon where they had Tully Banta-Cain on. Tim Ryan actually informed Banta-Cain that he was released and he actually had no idea.
    Pretty riveting radio if you ask me!!

  7. Kiss Bills Rings says: Oct 19, 2009 6:41 PM

    my guess is that there is some type of deal in the works….this makes no sense unless there is……it’s still a cap hit so sending him packing saves no money, only creates a roster spot….
    LOTS of rumors flying around out there……looking forward to seeing what may happen by the trade deadline tomorrow……
    Pats could really use a big powerful RB that’s good at catching the ball…Stephen Jackson anyone??!! With Sammy Morris & Fred Taylor both down, maybe trade our 1st rounder next year for him…..& Seattle needs a RB, maybe send Maroney for Branch????
    OH the possabilities…..
    Maybe a contract is being worked out for Peppers that includes shipping Adalius to the Panthers as well???!!
    Fun stuff to think about, that’s for sure!!!
    IN BILL WE TRUST!!!!!!!
    GO PATRIOTS!!!!

  8. ocgunslinger says: Oct 19, 2009 6:47 PM

    I KNOW….I KNOW…..Bill is afraid he will beat Tampa Bay by more than 75 points so he is taking appropriate steps!!!!

  9. Richm2256 says: Oct 19, 2009 6:48 PM

    Typical Vox post, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic.
    By the way, as this cut was being announced, Coach Belichick was on WEEI with a live interview saying no roster moves were likely today.
    Coach, we love you, but you just hung Fred, Steve, and Glen out to dry.

  10. Smush Rodrigez says: Oct 19, 2009 6:48 PM

    Vox, WTF are you talking about? Did you watch both of those Eagirls games that you refer to?
    I cannot argue that McNabb made two mistakes but he played hard on every down and cares when his team loses unlike Romo. McNabb also wins big games unlike Romo.

  11. ForksonKnives says: Oct 19, 2009 6:54 PM

    Tully was on ‘Moving the Chains’ on Sirius NFL Radio when this happened, and they actually asked him about his release on the air. Sounded like he had no idea. It made for a really awkward moment…

  12. RumorMongering says: Oct 19, 2009 6:54 PM

    Vox,
    Can you not read? Are you illiterate? An article on the Pats releasing a LB and you post nonsense on McNabb? What? You’re right on though every team that gets to the 15 yard line scores touchdowns just ask the Bears and Matt Forte. Hypocrisy is fun. Lack of intelligence, after demonstrating that you clearly have zero reading comprehension and/or football IQ. I know you’re a Cowboys fan and thus are probably some cookie cutter fair weather fan who just regurgitates others ideas. It’s laughable. I hear Tony Romo is a Rhodes scholar. EIU degrees are as coveted as, well, toilet paper. Keep on keeping on Vox. If you’re going to constantly whore out your nonsense ideas on PFT please make sure they have substance and aren’t some nonsense rant you came up with while staring at your monitor in an attempt to endear yourself to Mike Florio. I hear McNabb is terrible with numbers too, but ask him the score of last years regular season finally and I’m pretty sure he can spit out “44-6″ in a nano second.

  13. Hovenaut says: Oct 19, 2009 7:12 PM

    Guess they want to spruce up the offense…….
    (Can’t have snow and the Titans every week)

  14. Benny Mendenberger-Ward says: Oct 19, 2009 7:15 PM

    What the…………? Is Bruschi coming back too? What the hell are they doing?
    Whats with the dude talking about McNabb to start out the comments?

  15. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 7:17 PM

    “I cannot argue that McNabb made two mistakes but he played hard on every down and cares when his team loses unlike Romo.”
    I guess you can tell by the way McNabb was all grins and laughing after yesterday’s game.
    “McNabb also wins big games unlike Romo.”
    Yet he’s got as many Super Bowl rings as Romo does.
    So what’s it gonna be, Florio? Do you have something against hispanics or are you afraid that the Rainbow Coalition will beat down your door if you dare to criticize McNabb and his repeated and proven lack of intelligence?

  16. Somnambulus says: Oct 19, 2009 7:20 PM

    Richm2256 says: October 19, 2009 6:48 PM
    Typical Vox post, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic.
    ——————
    …but everything to do with being a loyal Ditto Head, which, by the way, seems to me a demeaning appellation implying one has the inability to arrive at one’s own conclusion, preferring instead to simply echo an other’s windy proclamations.
    The intent of the post is to “prove” McNabb is considered a franchise quarterback as a result of Rush Limbaugh’s second-favorite straw man: “the” media. He may also be trying to connect M.Florio to Rush’s imagined, decades old conspiracy by black America to…I don’t know; if I were an angry white man I might be able to figure it out.
    I love this link. It helps me interpret Rush calling out DeMaurice Smith, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and, of course, Barack Obama as all machinating against his bid.
    http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/rush-limbaugh-says-blacks-are-angry-and

  17. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 7:21 PM

    “after demonstrating that you clearly have zero reading comprehension and/or football IQ.”
    Yeah? I know that games can end in ties. I also know that you only get three timeouts per half. Nobody has ever had to tell me about either rule. Only I’m not the one making about $10 million a season to play football.
    “I hear Tony Romo is a Rhodes scholar. EIU degrees are as coveted as, well, toilet paper.”
    Well I can’t say that Syracuse has done McNabb any favors in the intelligence department.
    “I’m pretty sure he can spit out “44-6″ in a nano second. ”
    Not as fast as I can type 13-9.

  18. VoxUcker says: Oct 19, 2009 7:21 PM

    VoxVeritas says:
    Is Donovan McNabb as dumb as he looks?
    He’s at least made it to 2 SB’s.
    How many has Opie Romo played in?
    Are you as gay as you look?
    / how could you NOT be…?

  19. Backinthesaddle says: Oct 19, 2009 7:31 PM

    Something is in the works. He’s making room on the roster for……??? somebody??? On the face of it just to release Banta-Cain makes no sense. He was playing decent and financially there is no benefit. I’m guessing Bill is going after an upgrade over Banta-Cain.

  20. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 7:35 PM

    “failure to give him credit for being first to the party could trigger an episode of bad karma”
    So could the very biased way that you treat different teams and players, Florio.

  21. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 7:47 PM

    By the way…
    Wonderlic scores
    McNabb – 14
    Vince Young – 15
    Tarvaris Jackson – 19
    Ryan Leaf – 27
    Quincy Carter – 30
    Tony Romo – 37

  22. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 7:48 PM

    “Vox, WTF are you talking about? Did you watch both of those Eagirls games that you refer to”
    Now I’ve got YOU calling them the Eagirls hehehe

  23. Somnambulus says: Oct 19, 2009 8:09 PM

    # VoxVeritas says: October 19, 2009 7:47 PM
    By the way…
    Wonderlic scores
    McNabb – 14
    Vince Young – 15
    Tarvaris Jackson – 19
    Ryan Leaf – 27
    Quincy Carter – 30
    Tony Romo – 37
    ————-
    Arguably, a fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

  24. Richm2256 says: Oct 19, 2009 8:22 PM

    For anyone paying attention at home, the thread topic is: “Pats bounce Banta-Cain”
    Has nothing to do with McNab, Romo, Wonderlic, or anything else that isn’t related to New England cutting a linebacker.
    Care to explain, Vox, what the hell that subject has to do with McNabb, the subject of your opening post?

  25. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 8:35 PM

    “The intent of the post is to “prove” McNabb is considered a franchise quarterback as a result of Rush Limbaugh’s second-favorite straw man: “the” media.”
    You’re an idiot. Don’t ever think that you can speak for my intent. Florio saw Tony Romo hold up three fingers at the end of a game and assumed that Romo forgot that he had just played the 4th down. An incorrect assumption, but Florio ran with it as an example of how Tony Romo is not suited to be a successful QB at the NFL level. Specifically, he said “Maybe he’s just not smart enough to be a high-level NFL quarterback. Even if it was a temporary release of brain gas, the fact remains that franchise quarterbacks don’t make that mistake. Ever.”
    My intent is to find out why Florio is so extremely slanted in the way that he treats different teams and players. Now that you mention it, that does play right into the Rush Limbaugh comments, doesn’t it? Since Florio has gone all MSM on us. That hadn’t even crossed my mind, but that’s a good extra point to go along with my original point that Florio holds an undrafted guy out of EIU to a higher standard than the big school #2 overall guy, Donovan McNabb, even though McNabb has proven on multiple occasions that he’s prone to making mental mistakes on the very basic levels of the game. The basic rules that are taught and are consistent from the Pee-Wees to the pros… such as the fact that games can end in a tie and that you don’t get more than three timeouts in a half. Furthermore, he hurt his team both times. Is Florio doing this because McNabb is black? I don’t know, but he’s definitely doing it and I’d like to know why he’s doing it.

  26. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 8:37 PM

    “He’s at least made it to 2 SB’s.”
    Better count again, dummy.

  27. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM

    “Care to explain, Vox, what the hell that subject has to do with McNabb, the subject of your opening post?”
    Absolutely nothing. I thought that would be obvious.

  28. rusH1023 says: Oct 19, 2009 8:46 PM

    Guarantee there’s more to the story. He leads the team (in a tie) in sacks, at three. He’s a solid special teamer and was never a huge cap hit to begin with. Probably just procedural.

  29. murfdeezy says: Oct 19, 2009 8:46 PM

    I cant help but point out the fact that the wonderlic is obvioulsy pointless. Mcnabb has the worst score and is still the best quarterback on that list. Not to mention Romo scored 10 pts higher than perhaps the biggest bust of all time….Ryan Leaf. This is pointless. Plus it is in the wrong forum. Speak about the topic at hand or shut the hell up. I agree that the patriots have something in the works. There is no other justifiable reason to make this move. Plus Bill will lie about this even after the guy takes the field. He gives up nothing. Great coach, probably an even better co defendant. haha.

  30. Florios'Lawyer says: Oct 19, 2009 8:55 PM

    Richm2256 says:
    October 19, 2009 8:22 PM
    Care to explain, Vox, what the hell that subject has to do with McNabb, the subject of your opening post?
    Nothing.
    Vox is a known idiot troll.

  31. slipkid says: Oct 19, 2009 9:06 PM

    44-6*
    mcnabb threw up in the “only one” SB he has been to.
    tony collapsed in the shower.
    ok i will call it even.
    tully must hurt. he better put some banta-cain on that!
    and romo is pretty darn “americanized”. so he is fair game.
    rush wasnt criticizing mcnabb per se. he was criticizing the media, who would later actually gush more over other lesser lights… vick… young… campbell…jabustup… fat albert…
    black america cant get to work on time; they are merely footsoldiers for the power behind the scenes. the conspiracy rush complains about are, on the face of it, liberals. he just doesnt have the sand to say out loud which ethnic group has brought us (blacks included) to the brink of communism, hiding behind “liberalism”.

  32. sultanofslot says: Oct 19, 2009 9:09 PM

    Vox, I guess Romo is a lost cause too, seeing that he got inside the opponent’s 15 against the Broncos – to the two-yard line, even – and lost the game
    Best part being that he didn’t know it was fourth down. FRANCHISE QB? I THINK NOT!!!

  33. Old Manny of the Mountains says: Oct 19, 2009 9:13 PM

    I can’t wait to see how this all plays out. Like its been said, there was NO benefit to dropping him for financial reasons (or playing wise for that matter).
    We are very mediocre at OLB and pass rushing in general. There HAS to be something more to this move. And if you feel (like me) that Banta-Cain was a solid player so far and we suddenly cut him (while Adalius Thomas was inactive), this has to involve a move at OLB. We sat one of our best OLB and cut one of our best OLB. and I’ll say it, I’m not sold on Burgess..
    So who’s it going to be? Peppers? I’ve heard maybe Coles for AT.. Branch for AT?
    All I know is, I was at the Pats game yesterday, and my toes are still cold…
    In Bill We Trust
    Go PATS!
    p.s. I think McNabb plays better than his wonderlic scores reflects..

  34. Watertown1 says: Oct 19, 2009 9:14 PM

    There is no material cap implications of the Banta Cain move. He was on a minimum contract for his service.
    The only thing worse than the McNabb post is 18 people point out that it is McNabb post on a Banta Cain topic.

  35. Watertown1 says: Oct 19, 2009 9:17 PM

    Brandon Tate off PUP??

  36. voxveritasonmyspace says: Oct 19, 2009 9:22 PM

    Vox, Dallas will go nowhere with Romo. It’s obvious you realize this or you wouldn’t be so defensive in defending this overrated, overpaid bum. Get real man….he’s a September and October Hero. Nothing else.

  37. voxveritasonmyspace says: Oct 19, 2009 9:34 PM

    The bobbled snap.
    The Rams game.
    The INT against the Giants in a HUGE playoff game.
    The 44-6 shower faint.
    The December record
    …HOF.

  38. VoxVeritas says: Oct 19, 2009 9:51 PM

    I’ve proven my point regarding PFT. And for collateral damage, Florio and McNabb have proven Rush Limbaugh’s points about McNabb for him.

  39. voxveritasonmyspace says: Oct 19, 2009 10:03 PM

    I think PFT is worse with discrediting Tom Brady. After everything he’s done, we see nothing but negative articles on him. We read more about Romo, who is a proven failure and choke artist.
    Yet Florio posts about Brady and the church/going to hell? Honestly….

  40. MikeMcDPhilly says: Oct 19, 2009 10:04 PM

    Am I missing something? Is anybody going to post the “why didn’t they try to trade him” question? The guy’s a good NFL linebacker. Surely the Pats could have got something for him, right?
    Regardless of what’s going on behind the scenes, this seems like a rash move to just cut the guy.

  41. CornFlorio says: Oct 19, 2009 10:08 PM

    The ONLY thing worse than the McNabb back-and-forth (or is it a circle jerk?) is the lame ass “In Belicheat We Trust” signoffs. A TRUE SIGN of the moronic mindset of the typical BANDWAGON Pats fan base.
    Translation of every single Pats fan post here:
    WAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
    Looks like the Pats are your last hope this year SINCE the Celts, the Red Sox and the Bruins ALL CHOKED this season. LMAO!!!!
    Too bad for you all that the Pats will CHOKE as well this season. Ha ha ha!!!!!!!

  42. ocgunslinger says: Oct 19, 2009 10:16 PM

    Vox…..with any luck your internet connection will go down or your hard drive will fail.

  43. voxveritasonmyspace says: Oct 19, 2009 10:20 PM

    CornFlorio, when your prima donna QB gets three rings come talk to me. Until then, good luck getting into a playoff game. Cowgirls.

  44. voxveritasonmyspace says: Oct 19, 2009 10:24 PM

    I’ve never seen such a huge population hate one Magic: The Gathering player in my whole life.
    Vox against PFT

  45. CornFlorio says: Oct 19, 2009 10:48 PM

    voxveritasonmyspace says:
    October 19, 2009 10:20 PM
    CornFlorio, when your prima donna QB gets three rings come talk to me. Until then, good luck getting into a playoff game. Cowgirls.
    ___________
    Definitely NOT a Cowgirls fan, dumbass. And MY team as won MORE Super Bowls than your sorry ass team has, as well as having had a much better QB than Brady will ever be. They haven’t done much lately, but they are on the rise and will soon regain their former glory. Meanwhile, the Pats will sink back into the muck where they were for most of the first 40 years of their pathetic existence.
    BTW, MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl, something BradyGirl will NEVER be able to claim. So GFY, fool.

  46. footballnut says: Oct 20, 2009 8:58 AM

    Definite head scratcher…
    TBC was playing really well and if they just wanted to cut someone and create a roster spot you would think Burgess would be the one, since TBC has been a hell of a lot more productive.
    I am wondering if Burgess and Thomas have been sent into Witness Protection as even when Thomas was active I don’t recall seeing either on the field.
    My only thinking is Burgess’ hit on the cap would be higher than TBC’s, but if a deal was in the works why not just trade him with Adalius if that is the conventional thinking? Wouldn’t that then allow you to take TBC’s salary off the books and slide it to his new team?
    Cutting TBC to make room for a roster spot while dealing Galloway and Adalius doesn’t make sense either as those two would’ve created the room organically by the trade.
    BB knows a hell of a lot more about this game and personnel than anyone on here, but why cut one of the more productive guys in regards to a pass rush (which is sorely needed right now)?
    It’s too early to think this deep…I’m going to go get more coffee.

  47. davis1281 says: Oct 20, 2009 9:45 AM

    CornFlorio says:
    Definitely NOT a Cowgirls fan, dumbass. And MY team as won MORE Super Bowls than your sorry ass team has, as well as having had a much better QB than Brady will ever be. They haven’t done much lately, but they are on the rise and will soon regain their former glory. Meanwhile, the Pats will sink back into the muck where they were for most of the first 40 years of their pathetic existence.
    BTW, MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl, something BradyGirl will NEVER be able to claim. So GFY, fool.
    *******************************************
    Are You FKM? Did this jackass just sound like a little bitch “MY team as won MORE Super Bowls than your sorry ass team has”, “MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl”.
    So he is a Sanfransico fan, maybe?
    Let me translate hater speak: “I know the Patriots are one of the more successful teams in the league and have been for the last 8 or 9 years, but I am not man enough to admit it”.
    “I know the team and Brady don’t suck, but that’s all I can really say because I am jealous of all there success”.
    Waite, one more time. “MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl”.
    What a little bitch: waaaaaaahhh, “my team is better than your team”

  48. CornFlorio says: Oct 20, 2009 3:22 PM

    davis1281 says:
    October 20, 2009 9:45 AM
    CornFlorio says:
    Definitely NOT a Cowgirls fan, dumbass. And MY team as won MORE Super Bowls than your sorry ass team has, as well as having had a much better QB than Brady will ever be. They haven’t done much lately, but they are on the rise and will soon regain their former glory. Meanwhile, the Pats will sink back into the muck where they were for most of the first 40 years of their pathetic existence.
    BTW, MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl, something BradyGirl will NEVER be able to claim. So GFY, fool.
    *******************************************
    Are You FKM? Did this jackass just sound like a little bitch “MY team as won MORE Super Bowls than your sorry ass team has”, “MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl”.
    So he is a Sanfransico fan, maybe?
    Let me translate hater speak: “I know the Patriots are one of the more successful teams in the league and have been for the last 8 or 9 years, but I am not man enough to admit it”.
    “I know the team and Brady don’t suck, but that’s all I can really say because I am jealous of all there success”.
    Waite, one more time. “MY all-time favorite QB has FOUR rings and is UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl”.
    What a little bitch: waaaaaaahhh, “my team is better than your team”
    ________
    Translation: “davis1281 is a 2001 BANDWAGON Pats fan, which is why he can only remember the last 8 years”.
    The TRUTH HURTS, fool…just like it hurts you when your boyfriend rams it deep, NE gay boy.
    The ONLY one here who is jealous is YOU, chump. My FACTS remain…Brady will NEVER be UNDEFEATED in the Super Bowl…18 and D’OH!!! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
    You just got schooled…AGAIN!

  49. davis1281 says: Oct 21, 2009 7:20 AM

    @ CornFlorio
    Yeah, you really showed me!!!!
    Again “my ALL TIME favorite QB is better” waaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
    What a little sniveling bitch!

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