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Packers bring back Ahman Green

The Green Bay Packers have welcomed back to town an old friend.

No, not the one who’ll be arriving on November 1 wearing a magic purple helmet that shaves 15 years off his age. 

Running back Ahman Green is back, after being available and unwanted by anyone for all of the 2009 season.

Green played for the Packers from 2000 through 2006, before joining the Texans as an unrestricted free agent.  The emergence of Steve Slaton last year made Green, who has been  injured often, an unneeded luxury. 

He fills the roster spot occupied by DeShawn Wynn, who has been placed on injured reserve.

With 46 more yards, Green will become the Packers’ all-time leading rusher.

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  1. Ambrose says: Oct 21, 2009 11:34 AM

    The all-time rushing leader? On a team as historically significant as the Packers? I had no idea. I hope he does well for that reason alone. He played his heart out while he was in Green Bay.

  2. drsbaitso says: Oct 21, 2009 11:38 AM

    Can we say desperation?
    Wow, we had a solid young runner in Sutton and we cut him.
    At least now Peterson won’t be the top fumbler in the NFC North.

  3. jamesz23 says: Oct 21, 2009 11:41 AM

    He immediately becomes the Packers best goal line running back – Grant & Jackson are terrible in that regard. Green also catches the ball better than Grant. Let’s hope his fumbling problems don’t resurface in the limited carries he’ll get the rest of the season.
    Either way add running back – to offensive line, safety & yes d-line yet again to draft needs for GB.

  4. Philtration says: Oct 21, 2009 11:41 AM

    Just give them the division now.
    Then they can bring back Bart Starr for the Super Bowl.

  5. karpsta says: Oct 21, 2009 11:44 AM

    Since when did throwback jersey day include the player who wore it?

  6. tufar says: Oct 21, 2009 11:46 AM

    Strange signing, is there no one else out there with younger legs and not so injury prone? Maybe he’ll get his 46 yards before he gets dinged again.

  7. Calistin says: Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM

    The sequel is never as good as the original.

  8. jamesz23 says: Oct 21, 2009 11:49 AM

    Why are Packer fans so obsessed with Sutton? When he got released at the end of training camp Carolina picked him up. The Panthers had 1 of the best records in 2008, therefore they were towards the bottom for teams that could put in a claim which means 20 plus other teams passed on him. Why? Because he is extremely small and he isn’t that fast. I will confidently say Terrell Sutton will accomplish less in his career than Travis Jervey.
    Ahman Green was picked up for 1 big reason – he is a good goaline halfback. How many times this seaon have the Pack been stuffed down there? How many times have they had to try and fake the defense out by handing the ball to Kuhn or Hall? Ryan Grant does not have a running style good for plunging ahead for 1 tough yard.

  9. cvv84 says: Oct 21, 2009 11:50 AM

    The Packers are hung up on using a feature RB so this really isn’t a big deal. Brandon Jackson has been injured for much of the season so far and he fumbled in his 1st game back last week. Green could take over some 3rd down duties but thats about it.

  10. madarboretum says: Oct 21, 2009 11:51 AM

    “Can we say desperation?”
    I’m not even going to address your calling Sutton “solid” except for asking… who was he playing against?
    It’s not desperate to replace an injured player with one that plays his position, or am I nuts? Maybe now the Packers will be able to run effective screen passes and not make Grant fight the ball like a punching bag out of the backfield.
    How anyone can be a GB fan and not be thrilled with this signing is beyond me. Best of luck Ahman, I’ll be cheering loudly!

  11. SATAN567 says: Oct 21, 2009 11:52 AM

    Just another washed up Cornhusker. What a garbage school.

  12. Twiz says: Oct 21, 2009 11:55 AM

    Gotta wonder how they expect Green to keep Rodgers off his back the rest of the season……
    Nice that he will get the yards needed though….he deserves that much (and more)!

  13. jamesz23 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:03 PM

    Under Vince Lombardi the Packers had a 2 headed monster in the backfield of Jim Taylor and the golden boy Paul Hornung – so neither had enough carries in their career to get up over 10,000 yards.

  14. cheezheadz says: Oct 21, 2009 12:04 PM

    Wait, where are all of the “Lord Favre” references? Oh yeah, “Lord Favre” now plays for Florio’s team, the ViQueens, so now he’s the “resurrected one” that gets to hand off to Purple Jesus.

  15. sand0 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:08 PM

    Here’s a shout out to all those who made the “you moron this isn’t desperation NFL teams always try out random players” crowd. Here they not only tried out a washed up vet but are even signing.
    The fact that a team without real significant injuries in the backfield is desperately signing a washed up vet that nobody else wanted is a red flag towards a poorly managed personel department.
    They released Sutton and everyone thought that was a poor move and now look where they are at. What are these people thinking?

  16. ElCabong says: Oct 21, 2009 12:09 PM

    I can only assume he was brought in for his pass protection abilities. Why else would you bring him and Dominic Rhodes in for a workout? I like Green a lot, always have. Too bad it may take the rest of the season to get those 46 yards behind that O-line.

  17. Hauschild says: Oct 21, 2009 12:11 PM

    If it were me, I’d maybe continue to focus on signing some O-lineman that are NFL-capable, but that’s just common sense talking.

  18. marcduke says: Oct 21, 2009 12:14 PM

    @drsbaitso
    You’re a fool. Here’s Sutton’s stats as a Panther:
    ::crickets::
    That’s right, there are none. Get over it already, the guy was a preseason “wonder” just like Desmond Bishop.

  19. Bob Loblaw says: Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM

    I take it Dorsey Levens wasn’t available?

  20. marcduke says: Oct 21, 2009 12:21 PM

    “The fact that a team without real significant injuries in the backfield is desperately signing a washed up vet that nobody else wanted is a red flag towards a poorly managed personel department.”
    Huh? This team has already lost 5 games worth of RB game time to injuries – that’s not a significant problem?
    Again, Sutton hasn’t even TOUCHED THE BALL on a really bad Panther’s team.

  21. Mick730 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:23 PM

    Whether or not the signing of Green is a desperation move is certainly an open question, however, the small but very vocal element of Packer fans who continue to whine about Tyerell Sutton are morons. And there is no open question about that.
    My bet is these same people whined last year about the Packers not signing another slow, small, and undrafted running back; a guy from UW-Whitewater whose name is completely forgetable.

  22. mike-pct says: Oct 21, 2009 12:27 PM

    “Maybe now the Packers will be able to run effective screen passes …. ”
    Do you think the Packers can run a screen with Green? Green was use to a Packer O-line that could block. Green’s a step slower and the Packer line can’t take a step without falling down…

  23. packerbackerg says: Oct 21, 2009 12:28 PM

    The Return of BATMAN!
    …that’s (kinda) awsome…

  24. pkrjones says: Oct 21, 2009 12:29 PM

    So that you stat-illiterates don’t keep perpetuating (that means continuing) the false-hood about Ahman’s frequent fumbling…
    Ahman Green – 72 carries/fumble
    A Peterson – 48.1 carries/fumble
    S Jackson – 67.2 carries/fumble
    MJD – 63.8 carries/fumble
    C. Portis – 83 carries/fumble
    When you’re the main carrier and getting hit 30 times/game, fumbles happen.

  25. jamesz23 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:29 PM

    Terrell Sutton wasn’t drafted, if he was this awesome player why did all these teams pass on him in the draft and again when he was released? Hplayed with the 1st team towards the end of the preseason and looked overmatched. All of his damage was done late in preseason games against 3rd stringers. The guy is what 5’6 or 5’7 and like 190? And runs like a 4.6? How is he going to pass protect, how is he going to run away from starting linebackers and db’s?

  26. karpsta says: Oct 21, 2009 12:29 PM

    Sutton is on a really bad team, with 2 really good RB’s ahead of him.
    It’s not that Sutton is that great, but the Packers knew what they had in Jackson and Wynn. 2 guys who can’t stay on the field, and aren’t that spectacular when on it. Why not gamble with the unknown if that’s all you have? It’s not like ANYONE thought Jackson and Wynn were going to be great.

  27. FalconDevil says: Oct 21, 2009 12:30 PM

    Calitin – Terminator 2???

  28. Ambrose says: Oct 21, 2009 12:32 PM

    From non-other than the Purple Princess himself…
    “His pass blocking, which most people wouldn’t notice, was as good as I have seen by a back in this offense,” Favre said. “Several times it was guys he didn’t have to pick up, he just kind of felt the guy coming.”
    Pass blocking…….sorely needed and a welcome addition.

  29. tcpackerfan651 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:42 PM

    I like Green but that is a waste of money! We need a Tackle! Why didnt they bring up Kregg Lumpkin!! He is a hell of a lot better then Jackson! Oh yeah, Grant they should have traded his ass for a Tackle!

  30. sim448 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:46 PM

    are they retiring his number? is this a 1 day signing and then retire as a packer? this is an odd move. whats next, shaun alexander going back to seattle?

  31. SpartaChris says: Oct 21, 2009 12:47 PM

    I like the Green pick up for a couple of reasons:
    1) He might be able to offer some veteran tips to Grant. I don’t remember Grant having the benefit of a veteran in the back field to help him learn, so Green might be able to help him improve. At this point, even a slight improvement will do Grant wonders.
    2) Green’s blocking ability. I keep hearing people say “Find linemen, find linemen.” That’s all well and good, but who do you think would be a quality pickup and make an immediate impact this far into the season? I don’t think there’s anyone available that could make an immediate impact. I believe we need to either trade in the off-season or draft.
    3) Ability to run the screen. Grant has done a decent job thus far with the screen’s we’ve run, but IIRC, Green was pretty amazing.
    All in all, I think he brings more upside than down, with his veteran presence being his biggest asset.

  32. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Oct 21, 2009 12:47 PM

    # sand0 says: October 21, 2009 12:08 PM
    Here’s a shout out to all those who made the “you moron this isn’t desperation NFL teams always try out random players” crowd. Here they not only tried out a washed up vet but are even signing.
    The fact that a team without real significant injuries in the backfield is desperately signing a washed up vet that nobody else wanted is a red flag towards a poorly managed personel department.
    They released Sutton and everyone thought that was a poor move and now look where they are at. What are these people thinking?
    ——————————
    You are an idiot. No significant injuries in the backfield?? Deshawn Wynn potentially being put on IR and out for a minimum of 4 games with a knee injury isn’t a significant injury?? Why don’t you read before spouting off like a know-it-all moron. Sutton is SLOW…….flashed some quickness but the odds are against him going against starting caliber players. There’s a reason why he wasn’t drafted. Stop acting like he’s the second coming of Barry Sanders.

  33. dcfan-1212450 says: Oct 21, 2009 12:54 PM

    Older running backs who switch teams always do well right…always…

  34. JimmySmith says: Oct 21, 2009 1:05 PM

    Exactly, Green is going to the third back on this team unless he proves himself to be something special and then he can increase his playing time.
    I don’t get it, injuries happen all the time and teams fill in as needed. To call it desperation is stupid, desperation is when you haven’t been to the Superbowl in 33 years and you throw your QB’s under the bus to sign a 40 yr old who has a history of choking in the playoffs, that’s desperation.

  35. Pack Attack # 1 says: Oct 21, 2009 1:06 PM

    Are we really that bad! Its a desperate move

  36. PervyHarvin says: Oct 21, 2009 1:16 PM

    He didn’t do jack crap with the Texans. Backs tend to get better with age, and martians are real. Is this a story? If nothing else he can bring some fresh Favre stories to the young guys. Clifton’s and Driver’s are getting old.

  37. Youngs79 says: Oct 21, 2009 1:17 PM

    Packer fans kill me. Getting excited about Ahman Green. What is he going to do, lead the NFL in rushing? Packers would have been better addressing their “swiss cheese” offensive line. How long is Aaron Rodgers going to be able to take the beating he has?

  38. Bob Nelson says: Oct 21, 2009 1:17 PM

    The Packers current Right Guard was obtained with the compensatory pick they received for Green.
    As the third string back he will contribute some veteran knowledge and leadership come playoff time.
    He currently is assigned number 34.
    One good run and he will get his 46 yards.
    With a career average of 4.5 yards he should have it in 10 carries or one a game.
    It will be a nice way for him to go out after getting his retirement money from the Texans.

  39. Jimair1 says: Oct 21, 2009 1:26 PM

    This is not desperation! They brought him in as a 3rd down and possibly goal line back. He basically replaces DeShawn Wynn and you all saw he much he was used. Grant will remain as is

  40. SpartaChris says: Oct 21, 2009 1:26 PM

    Maybe there’s a little desperation attached to the move, but it’s not like we’re bringing him in to be the starter. He’s a veteran presence who can help us with some things NOW. No, he isn’t going to be the be-all, end-all solution to this team, but if he can help now, today, why not?

  41. zygi milf says: Oct 21, 2009 1:29 PM

    One would think that the offensive line would be more important.

  42. misterj says: Oct 21, 2009 1:34 PM

    You’re right Sando, it’s almost as if the Packers had to sign Ahman Green to fulfill emergency depth because of a player going on Injured Reserve.
    Ah.

  43. tcpackerfan651 says: Oct 21, 2009 1:39 PM

    Kregg Lumpkin!!!!!!!!!

  44. favres_right_tendon says: Oct 21, 2009 1:41 PM

    WOW! All the hate toward Ahman Green. Where is the love Packer fans for the years Ahman gave up his body for your team. He comes back and just wants to help the team win and all you want to do is rip him. His ‘injury prone’ problem is from the hits he took trying to get your team to the Super Bowl. He is about to become the best rusher in Packer history. If your team was not as horrible as they are maybe they are not looking to sign Green, but they are and they did. The Houston Experiment was horrible but if you look at the stats when he was playing he had nearly identical and sometimes better stats/averages then Slaton. And how is Slaton doing now anyways? Keep on playin Ahman the true Packer fans are glad to have you back.

  45. SpartaChris says: Oct 21, 2009 1:48 PM

    Alright assholes, I’ve asked this once already- Who exactly is out there as an O-Line pickup that would improve our situation TODAY?
    If your answer was “No one,” you’d be correct. There isn’t anyone out there who would be better than who we currently have. We’ll have to wait for the off-season and the draft to solve those problems.
    It’s time to get off the O-Line subject until the season is over. Unless our guys start playing better, it simply isn’t going to happen during the regular season.

  46. Rnay says: Oct 21, 2009 1:56 PM

    Not saying this move may not be helpful but if they are indeed bringing back Green, they need to bring back the main guy who helped him do his job: William Henderson.
    At 37 or 38 he is very very old by NFL standards, but you know what? He always stayed in terrific shape (from what I saw recently, he still looks great!), was a savvy blocker and a very sure-handed receiver. Unlike Green, Henderson has a ring. And there would be some really good arguments for him being in Canton someday, given h0w integral a part of the SB XXXI team he was.
    Doubt he’d be interested but I always thought he was foolishly released in the youth movement by Thompson while he was still playing effectively.
    The previous post was only SLIGHTLY serious. But I am serious in saying the man WOULD be a great coach on run-blocking to the current team.

  47. ErinRodgers says: Oct 21, 2009 2:04 PM

    PLAYOFFS……. Are you kidding me PLAYOFFS…… PLAYOFFS?????
    You’re going to beat out Chicago, Philly, Atlanta, or the Niners?
    HAHAHAHA. Another dillusional butt packer.
    Bob Nelson says:
    October 21, 2009 1:17 PM
    The Packers current Right Guard was obtained with the compensatory pick they received for Green.
    As the third string back he will contribute some veteran knowledge and leadership come playoff time.
    He currently is assigned number 34.
    One good run and he will get his 46 yards.
    With a career average of 4.5 yards he should have it in 10 carries or one a game.
    It will be a nice way for him to go out after getting his retirement money from the Texans.

  48. Chickenfoot says: Oct 21, 2009 2:14 PM

    Sparta: Levi Jones WOULD have done you wonders, he’s better than ANY of the slap dicks you currently have.
    TT in hisinfinite wisdom decided you didn’t need him.
    Bob: Knowledge and leadership come playoff time?!
    What, is he going to let them know the best Vacation spots and best places to WATCH THEM? They certainly aren’t going to be in them!

  49. CornFlorio says: Oct 21, 2009 2:17 PM

    packerbackerg says:
    October 21, 2009 12:28 PM
    The Return of BATMAN!
    …that’s (kinda) awsome…
    _________
    “Batman” was Ahmad Carroll, MORON.
    But thanks for showing how LITTLE you know about the history of your supposed favorite team. Typical of bandwagon Packers and Pats fans everywhere.

  50. misterj says: Oct 21, 2009 2:19 PM

    Rnay, as much as I think guys like Willie H or Lorenzo Neal belong in Canton, I highly doubt BS journalists will vote him in. Their arguments will literally be crap like “WELL IF THEY WERE SO IMPORTANT TO THE RUNNING GAME WHY DIDN’T THEY GET THE FOOTBALL???”
    If you don’t believe me, look at their reasons for not voting Steve Tasker and Ray Guy in.

  51. WhySoSerious says: Oct 21, 2009 2:20 PM

    Packers see Green as a low risk addition to sign and fill a void at RB. If he’s able to produce and help the club out, great! I hope he gets the needed yards to become the Packers all time leading rusher.

  52. CesarM says: Oct 21, 2009 2:55 PM

    ha he’ll be put on IR in a week

  53. Supersuckers says: Oct 21, 2009 3:22 PM

    certainly?

  54. Ambrose says: Oct 21, 2009 3:26 PM

    Cornflorio…
    Stay on the other threads if you can’t tell your butt from a hole in the ground. I think if you called out “Hey Batman”, Ahman Green would probably turn around.
    “Green began his career in his teens – as an All-America selection and state Player of the Year at Central High School in Omaha, Nebraska – the same school that produced such players as Gale Sayers and Bob Gibson.
    As his loyal fans are aware, Green sports a Batman tatoo on his leg and is an avid Batman fan with an exensive collection of related comic books and posters. He shares his enthusiasm with his entire team and at one point presented them with rings he himself designed, with a Batman crest and the phrase, “Tough times go away, not tough people.”

  55. TheBaySay says: Oct 21, 2009 3:40 PM

    And, Calitin – Godfather 2 and Tarzan and His Mate. But generally you’re right.

  56. packers4life says: Oct 21, 2009 3:54 PM

    “Clifton’s and Driver’s are getting old.”
    Driver is old? Not the way he’s been playing. Over 90 receiving yards in the last three games.
    and there are sure alot of Packer bashers commenting on here. I take it none of you have no life?

  57. TheBaySay says: Oct 21, 2009 4:22 PM

    Carroll was the “Adam West” version of Batman…

  58. Chickenfoot says: Oct 21, 2009 4:33 PM

    packers4life says:
    October 21, 2009 3:54 PM
    and there are sure alot of Packer bashers commenting on here. I take it none of you have no life?
    =================================
    Says the guy who bashes the Vikings every chance he gets!
    Pot, meet kettle.

  59. PervyHarvin says: Oct 21, 2009 4:47 PM

    @ packers4life – Read the post again Dexter Manley!! Was referring to their stories. Seriously though,reading is fundamental . If you would like to give me your address,I would be glad to ship you my 8year olds Leap Frog Reading System. She grew out of it. Let me know!

  60. GBISFULLOFFATTIES says: Oct 21, 2009 4:54 PM

    There is way too much bashing taking place on this topic…
    Green is not an act of desperation at all. Injuries have occured and the Pack are picking up someone very close to the organiztion who can come in right away and can fill a role. Fans like him and he wont be spendy. It’s a simple win – win that really wont make a difference towards wins or losses.
    There would be nothing different if the Vikes were to pick up a former cornerback that could fill a much needed hole with Winfield not playing “if thats the case” and if we had a former stud corner LOL
    that said…. SKOL VIKINGS

  61. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 21, 2009 5:06 PM

    CornFlorio says:
    October 21, 2009 2:17 PM
    packerbackerg says:
    October 21, 2009 12:28 PM
    The Return of BATMAN!
    …that’s (kinda) awsome…
    _________
    “Batman” was Ahmad Carroll, MORON.
    But thanks for showing how LITTLE you know about the history of your supposed favorite team. Typical of bandwagon Packers and Pats fans everywhere.
    _______________________________
    Wow. Talk about morons. Ahman Green was nicknamed batman since Nebraska, as that is his favorite super hero. While Ahmaad ‘Chunky Soup’ Carrol who was picked ahead of Chris Gamble, also liked Batman, he didn’t get that nickname for being 2nd in line.

  62. Gregjennings85 says: Oct 21, 2009 5:10 PM

    FYI:
    For anyone ever that was even THINKING about going to a Queens game at the Metrodome, buckle up. They have this horrible, ‘Skol Vikings’ norse chant that is beyond retarded. I was actually amazed at how many times they do this. For some insignificant instances, as well. Long pass plays, 1st downs, etc. I offended as a human being. Just awful. Heck, I bet you could youtube it.

  63. pkrlvr says: Oct 21, 2009 5:48 PM

    Cornflorio, wtf are you talking about? Any packer fan knows Green loved batman and was a total bat-geek.

  64. Tornadoes28 says: Oct 21, 2009 6:00 PM

    How old is he? Like 48?

  65. Gordon Tremeshko says: Oct 21, 2009 6:32 PM

    packers4life says:
    October 21, 2009 3:54 PM
    and there are sure alot of Packer bashers commenting on here. I take it none of you have no life?
    =================================
    None of us have no life? So what you are really saying is that all of us have a life. Thanks. Those schools in WI sure do a nice job.
    Actuallly, I think your adoption of the name “packers4life” pretty much tells us all we need to know about your life.

  66. GBISFULLOFFATTIES says: Oct 21, 2009 6:46 PM

    Gregjennings85 says:
    October 21, 2009 5:10 PM
    FYI:
    For anyone ever that was even THINKING about going to a Queens game at the Metrodome, buckle up. They have this horrible, ‘Skol Vikings’ norse chant that is beyond retarded. I was actually amazed at how many times they do this. For some insignificant instances, as well. Long pass plays, 1st downs, etc. I offended as a human being. Just awful. Heck, I bet you could youtube it.
    ————————————————-
    How long did it take you to type that paragraph full of stupid comments and a half-assed attempt at grammar? Can anyone take you seriously

  67. Beer Cheese Soup says: Oct 21, 2009 7:59 PM

    I don’t fully disagree with this move, but it’s hard not to see it as a complete act of desperation either. Here’s hoping it pays off.

  68. Chickenfoot says: Oct 21, 2009 8:49 PM

    Gregjennings85 says:
    October 21, 2009 5:10 PM
    FYI:
    For anyone ever that was even THINKING about going to a Queens game at the Metrodome, buckle up. They have this horrible, ‘Skol Vikings’ norse chant that is beyond retarded. I was actually amazed at how many times they do this. For some insignificant instances, as well. Long pass plays, 1st downs, etc. I offended as a human being. Just awful. Heck, I bet you could youtube it.
    ==============================
    Greg:
    Yeah because,
    da, da, da, da, da, da…go pack go….is the height of musical genius!!
    I swear, some you idiots do not even think before you post.
    I agree with Pervy, I’m sure he knows the system. It’s not like it’s going to make that big of diffrence in the w-l columns.

  69. Joey says: Oct 22, 2009 1:22 AM

    Sutton wasn’t that good we gave him the opportunity to play with the first team but we didn’t produce enough yard. In my eyes this is a desperation move cause Green is always injured and we just needed a second string running back. I do agree that we should of kept sutton more then Wynn. I never thought wynn was even that good. I hope green gets his 46 yards though. He deserves it.

  70. Beer Cheese Soup says: Oct 22, 2009 10:22 AM

    Chickenfoot says:
    da, da, da, da, da, da…go pack go….is the height of musical genius!!
    ____________________________________
    It sure is! Glad you recognized that.
    I’m joking, (seems I to need to say that). I also think you left out one of the da’s. Seriously though, every team except Seattle and Houston has its own stupid cheer. It’s just part of football.
    Skol Vikings and go pack go are not the best, but also not NEAR as bad as gridiron heroes, j-e-t-s jets jets jets jets, hey hey tampa bay, or the Bills make me scream and shout (which HAS to be the worst).
    What I don’t understand is why blowing that confounded horn is apparently necessary after every touchdown, first down, interception, forced fumble, sack, 3 and out, field goal, extra point, decent kick return, punt inside the 30, or Childress nosewipe. Come the hell on! Sounding it after touchdowns, that I could understand, but seriously, is your franchise so historically horrible that you feel the need to celebrate every minor insignificant play that goes in your favor? And if so, can they cut back a bit now that you finally have a decent team? The dome is bad enough already without the horn every three minutes. Just give it a rest.

  71. Supersuckers says: Oct 22, 2009 11:19 AM

    Beer Cheese,
    Still waiting for your answer to 4million minus 20 million.

  72. Chickenfoot says: Oct 22, 2009 11:27 AM

    Beer:
    That it annoys opposing fans is precisely why they do it….I’m assuming.
    You know, you hear the go Pack Go thing alot too.
    Maybe they should just have Ragnar the Viking so barentt’s Samurai dance for 1st downs?
    But I’m thinking if it irritates a packer fan like you…it can’t be so bad ;)

  73. Chickenfoot says: Oct 22, 2009 2:11 PM

    Chickenfoot says:
    October 22, 2009 1:42 PM
    Team Revenues
    Minus Salary cap spending
    Minus Operating expenses
    Equals Team Earnings

  74. Supersuckers says: Oct 22, 2009 2:27 PM

    exactly. beer Cheese ran from that discussion.

  75. Supersuckers says: Oct 22, 2009 2:30 PM

    excepy player costs might have been better then salary cap spending but i got your drift. Beer Cheese if you would like a lesson in Economics
    -101 let us know. We’d be glad to try to help you out. Otherwise keep wishing the pack spends that ficticious cap money and there will be no more Green Bay Packers in 5 years.

  76. Chickenfoot says: Oct 22, 2009 3:00 PM

    Hey know, Super…..i might be for that……
    Then you could come over to the Dark side!

  77. Beer Cheese Soup says: Oct 23, 2009 9:51 AM

    Supersuckers says:
    Beer Cheese if you would like a lesson in Economics-101 let us know. We’d be glad to try to help you out. Otherwise keep wishing the pack spends that ficticious cap money and there will be no more Green Bay Packers in 5 years.
    ____________________________________
    I don’t “run from discussions”, I have a job. Sometimes I can’t be on here.
    Fine. I’ll concede I’m not the best at economics (maybe I should be in politics). However, despite my limited knowledge, I will say it’s funny that the Vikings, (who even Jerry Jones knows make a lot less money than the Pack) still manage to get talent outside of hoping their 6th round picks pan out. That would seem to imply to me that there is at least SOME way to make it work.
    Nonetheless, it’s widely known on this site and others that there is no point in arguing with a TT lover such as yourself. Simply supporting the man and his decisions requires you to ignore basic facts, so it would follow that you would also ignore whatever facts I would present in an argument against him. I’ll save us both some time here and just let it go.

  78. Supersuckers says: Oct 23, 2009 11:11 AM

    No No. I appreciate your concession speech. Thompson has whiffed on many players. In the case of the Vikings, well, they are strapped for cash. They needed to sell naming right to their field turf. Many teams do this. But usually its the entire stadium not the turf. The Vikings don’t own the dome. So. Yeah they have brought in some free agents but they are also hurting financially. You have to remember this is a business and part of Thompson’s job is to make sure the business stays viable. Not only does he head up personnel he heads up football operations which is everything from personnel to the paper clips his department uses on a daily basis. He has had free agents work out. He usually does not get involved in the first wave “dumb money” free agents (thankfully). I guess I am interested in knowing what basic facts I am ignoring.

  79. Chickenfoot says: Oct 23, 2009 11:22 AM

    Beer/Super:
    Part of the problem, I believe, is that TT must answer to a board of directors.
    Whereas Zyigi and whoever else, are spending money out of their own pockets. Wilf had to go to his investors to ask for more cash when they signed Allen. Favre is also being paid in an unconventional way.
    I am in no way defending TT. Wolf spent money before and never seemed to have a problem getting it.
    I see a situation here where both sides are right in some ways, and both sides are wrong.
    TT did this while he was in Seattle too. he cleared out all the players that were not ” his guys”. Seattle made the playoffs in 2 of the 5 years he was there. he also had a lot of questionable draft picks.
    Thompson did make some questionable first day draft picks in Seattle, however, including first round pick Chris McIntosh in 2000, second round pick Ike Charlton in 2000, first round pick Koren Robinson in 2001, second round pick Anton Palepoi in 2002, third round pick Kris Richard in 2002, and first round pick Marcus Tubbs in 2004——–Who?!?
    Sounds like his track record in GB. 1 playoff appearance in 4 years, soon to be 5. Questionable picks with a few late round nuggets thrown in.
    His talent evaluation in the 1 st few rounds, leaves much to be desired.
    That being said, he does not have to answer to an “owner”. He is in a position where it’s all on him. I’m not sure how the board of directors meetings are planned and how often they meet.
    Maybe this guy just errs on the side of caution to keep his job?
    Maybe he’s hamstrung by the board? We don’t know.
    Maybe this is just his philosophy, which is a sound one……if you hit on your draft picks.
    He hasn’t on the important ones(early rounds) sans Rodgers and Jennings.
    If you are going to take the road he has, you HAVE to hit on more than the 55% Wolf ascribes to.
    Wolf probably hit at a higher level than that, but, he also brought in premium free agents to supplement his drafting.
    TT tries to get by on the cheap in FA and takes other teams back-ups and special teamers.
    Here again, is he hamstrung or no.
    Bottom line, it’s all on him for his drafting and he’s not getting it done.
    I agree with both of you in some areas and disagree with both of you in others.
    All bashing aside, I’m trying to be serious about this. I agree with the notion that no playoffs = TT must go.

  80. Supersuckers says: Oct 23, 2009 11:30 AM

    I did enjoy the (maybe I should be in politics) remark! Good one!

  81. Supersuckers says: Oct 23, 2009 11:51 AM

    You cannot put the 4-12 of 2005 on Thompson however. That was a year of evaluation and that led to a complete makeover. To get to 8-8 in 06 and 13-3 in 07 is a testement to how excellent of a job Thompson and the whole staff did. Last year there is no excuse for. If it happens again he is in trouble agreed. But keep in mind he did build a SuperBowl team in Seattle. One that was a couple of iffy calls away from winning it all.

  82. Supersuckers says: Oct 23, 2009 11:55 AM

    And Chicken I respectfully but completely disagree about the “his guys” statements. His job is to provide the coaching staff with the best possible players to work with. He even gave Sherman an extension when he was first hired. Certainly a “my guy” GM wouldnt do that. Maybe Im missing something but I sure would like a example of a “TT guy” situation that occured because I dont recall any. favre and rodgers? Had to be done and TT still almost waffled on that when they were going to welcome him back in late April.

  83. Chickenfoot says: Oct 23, 2009 1:52 PM

    Super:
    That really pisses me off! I had a nice long post typed up and submitted it over an hour ago and it never showed up. This isn’t the 1st time that’s happened either.
    Needless to say, I’m at work and i can’t take the time to do it all over again.
    I know it wouldn’t be ” banned” because there was no swearing or name calling in it.
    Oh well, this website will have to suffice, it touches on some of the things i said.
    Plus you may like the site.
    http://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/clock-ticking-on-thompsons-tenure

  84. Surfdog says: Oct 23, 2009 9:02 PM

    Green will run all over the Vikes on Nov. 1. Can’t wait to see him flatten Jared Allen! Packers take first place, Vikes fall to 6-2!!!

  85. Minnieisfullof toothlessmethheads says: Oct 25, 2009 8:25 AM

    Green puts the Green back in Green Bay.

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