Comments on: League looking into Larry Johnson remarks

By: GreyOoze

GreyOoze — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:04:25 +0000

TFBuckFutter, Quagmire, and anyone else who wants to argue the point…your constitutional rights always apply unless you signed an official court document waving said right. I highly doubt the NFL forces their employees to sign such an agreement. Sure, the league could fine LJ for his comments, but he could and should sue them if they did.
The fact is, more players would be suing the NFL over these kinds of issues, but, at the end of the day, it’s cheaper for the player to just pay the fine, rather than lawyers and court costs.
Too many people think that being under a given entities employ automatically places limits on their civil liberties, when in fact it is not that simple.
I’ve observed some of these points while working in corrections, and also in a factory that got sued for searching through an employees personal items.
And sorry, Quagmire, all A’s here. And I’m also aware of the difference between Freedom of Speech and disturbing the peace.

By: ChicagoMike

ChicagoMike — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:47:01 +0000

So if he said “Get your pussy asses out of here” …does that give the Cat Lovers of America the right to go after him? It’s a LOCKER ROOM PEOPLE !!! …tea and crumpets are NOT severed here …

By: Quagmire

Quagmire — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:00:17 +0000

GreyOoze says:
“Freedom of Speech. It’s in our constitution, for those of you that might have forgotten.
And for those of you looking to place limits upon Freedom of Speech so your feelings don’t get hurt, you offend me.”
The U.S. Constitution protects free speech action by the GOVERNMENT.
And even that has limitations. (Example: You can’t yell FIRE in a movie theater).
Your EMPLOYER can take disciplinary action for what you say, post game, to a room full of reporters, twittering/blogging, etc.
I’m guessing straight F’s in history…right?

By: bengalstink09

bengalstink09 — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:58:42 +0000

“Brewster says:
October 26, 2009 7:53 PM
Anyone wanna bet that the NFL “completes the process of getting the facts” and takes action against LJ before they even begin to follow up on the Tom Cable/Randy Hanson broken jaw saga?
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Totally agree. If Goodell fines and/or suspends LJ for being a stupid jack ass, without directly addressing the mafia related issues out in Oakland, then he’s a weak, incompetent, corporate lawyer doing injustice to the NFL.
Cable should be out of the league for being an arrogant, oversized POS who thinks that being head coach means he’s above the law. BTW, he’s clearly not a head coach as supported by his inability to get anything out of his team. First year or not, he’s an Al Davis thug that has no place in the NFL.
LJs issues go back to his days at PSU. He’s flawed, but at least he’s consistent in finding someone’s doghouse.
Commish- do the right thing and deal with a real issue vs a freakin politically correct bullshit issue.

By: TFBuckFutter

TFBuckFutter — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:22:19 +0000

“GreyOoze says:
October 26, 2009 11:33 PM
Freedom of Speech. It’s in our constitution, for those of you that might have forgotten.
And for those of you looking to place limits upon Freedom of Speech so your feelings don’t get hurt, you offend me. ”
And when the GOVERNMENT tries to prevent him from saying ignorant things, that would actually apply.
In this case, it doesn’t.
So many people throw out that amendment without actually understanding it.

By: Duderino

Duderino — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:28:20 +0000

Sorry, GreyOoze, freedom of speech does not apply in the workplace. Try walking up to your boss, coworker, or customer and disrespecting him/her and then see how far your freedom of speech argument goes when they discipline you. Postgame locker room media sessions are part of the job.

By: Duderino

Duderino — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:43:05 +0000

Maybe it’s that quality Penn State education paying off. Perhaps LJ should consult with fellow Penn State alumnus, Kerry Collins, about keeping his fool mouth in check (for those who need a refresher, google “Kerry Collins racist comment”). That would be an interesting conversation.

By: darth_vincent

darth_vincent — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:36:41 +0000

the NFL will just fine him 20 grand and let it go… unless he votes republican – then they will hold a big press conference and try to ban him from the league without pay.
stupid remark… and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t referring to a piece of wood for the fireplace or a British cigarette… but then LJ has already shown that he is kind of a dumbsh!t.

By: GreyOoze

GreyOoze — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:33:41 +0000

Freedom of Speech. It’s in our constitution, for those of you that might have forgotten.
And for those of you looking to place limits upon Freedom of Speech so your feelings don’t get hurt, you offend me.

By: TFBuckFutter

TFBuckFutter — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:18:23 +0000

“fellasheowed says:
October 26, 2009 9:25 PM
if this was rare language in that environment, i could see the league having justification to punish him…however, since its common and popular vocabulary in the locker room, i don’t think the nfl should so much as fine him.
really, is the nfl going to bow to pressure groups now?do it once and every group looking for a p.r. win will take a piece out of the nfl wooley mammouth.”
Umm…..are there any groups that wouldn’t be justified in taking offense if they are slandered?
Why do some people want to defend the ignorant? I’m not especially P.C……but some things are just bad, and every one with a functioning brain knows it….if someone dropped the n-word in front of him, you don’t think he’d be the first one yelling (or spitting)?

By: East Bay Ray

East Bay Ray — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:08:24 +0000

In 2004, Dick Vermeil said that Larry Johnson needed to “grow up and take the diapers off.” Vermeil should have been fined for that remark since it is offensive to babies to be compared to this moron.

By: iclightpounder

iclightpounder — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:39:08 +0000

He not only offends those who are light in the loafers but it also offends us in steeler nation. Who care what we do in the bushes at rest stops and in the Hienie Field bathroons

By: fellasheowed

fellasheowed — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:25:36 +0000

JaggedMark says:
October 26, 2009 7:20 PM
Whatever happened to “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”
its that bundle of sticks he them with, that is the problem…
if this was rare language in that environment, i could see the league having justification to punish him…however, since its common and popular vocabulary in the locker room, i don’t think the nfl should so much as fine him.
really, is the nfl going to bow to pressure groups now?do it once and every group looking for a p.r. win will take a piece out of the nfl wooley mammouth.

By: slipkid

slipkid — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:07:23 +0000

well he couldnt have meant it.
did he just say it, or did he also spray it?

By: comment_submission_error

comment_submission_error — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:55:31 +0000

JMClarkent says:
The NFL’s response could be interesting; “It’s ok to
break a fellas jaw, just don’t call him a fag!”
I heard The League wants to slap a sanction on Tommy Kelly for giving Leon Washington a Theismann, but apparently there were no witnesses.
(The following is for Chief running back Larry Johnson only:
You see, Larry, nobody was in the stands. That’s the joke.)

By: oldschool

oldschool — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:51:18 +0000

What is the harm in calling someone a cigarette?

By: Backinthesaddle

Backinthesaddle — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:41:16 +0000

Goodell is a corporate suit lawyer who will very quickly march down the Political Correctness road to protect the league against any and all self centered special interests that will inevitably be “offended”. In this case I’m certain that self centered special interest group will be “The Gay and Lesbian Community”.
I expect the public image conscience commissioner will fine LJ in some way shape or form. He’ll have to appease the self centered special interest group who will of course be “offended”.

By: TFBuckFutter

TFBuckFutter — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:32:59 +0000

Trade him to San Fransisco!

By: JMClarkent

JMClarkent — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:26:46 +0000

The NFL’s response could be interesting; “It’s ok to break a fellas jaw, just don’t call him a fag!”

By: chief

chief — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:26:11 +0000

not that it makes a difference to the Jason Whitlock and Nick Wright blow horn who wrote this blog entry, but Jason Anderson of WHB radio first reported the comment LJ made to the reporters.
maybe the 7 people listening to KCSP at the time were confused when they told you?
regardless, the “Special Master” hearing in the off season took away any guaranteed money LJ had and he’s only owed $1.9 million more this season. Release him.

By: promin1

promin1 — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:22:45 +0000

oooooo here comes the PC police

By: bearsrule

bearsrule — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:21:56 +0000

Is he having a nervous breakdown or can he really be this stupid ? He’s forced the league into doing something. Letting this go would be a P.R. nightmare.

By: JaggedMark

JaggedMark — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:20:00 +0000

Whatever happened to “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me”
On the other hand, I guess if someone referred to Larry Johnson as a “washed up porch monkey”, he’s probably take offense.

By: bigmikethompson

bigmikethompson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:18:19 +0000

Someone is projecting his personal lifestyle choices on others.

By: as big as a hat

as big as a hat — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:14:47 +0000

The league should just sit back and let this moron finish digging his hole. Give him unfettered access to any and all media, and tell him to shine.

By: longrodvanhungendong

longrodvanhungendong — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:14:23 +0000

This kid actually had a father and still turned into a F-up. Maybe he was just spoiled…….

By: TFBuckFutter

TFBuckFutter — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:09:20 +0000

I think a reasonable punishment would be a Whizzinator in the….back field.