For reasons neither known nor apparent, the NFL smoothed out what typically is a Sunday afternoon schedule with too many early games and two few late ones.
The problem, of course, is that the six games that started at 1:00 p.m. ET (with the other five beginning at at 4:05 p.m. or 4:15 p.m. ET) featured four snoozers, one blowout that became a close game, and one compelling, playoff-atmosphere, Heinz Field-record crowd, perfect October football afternoon battle between the defending NFL champs and a team that has loaded the cannon (but for Darren Sharper) in the hopes of finally getting back to the Super Bowl for the first time in 33 years — and winning it for the first time in 44.
The 10-point victory margin matched the same difference from the day these two franchises met nearly 35 years ago in New Orleans. And while the Vikings’ offense was a lot more effective on Sunday than it was when the team’s only points came from a blocked punt and a failed conversion, there was a similar sense of inevitability throughout most of the afternoon.
No matter what the Vikings did, they wouldn’t win the game.
But they sure as hell tried.
The game started sluggishly, with two strong defenses forcing an exchange of punts in a field-position battle that the Vikings eventually lost, thanks to a couple of shanks from Chris Kluwe. Still, the damage wasn’t serious, with the Steelers leading 3-0 after the first quarter.
And then the Vikings’ offense woke up, putting together a methodical 13-play drive that gave Minnesota what would be its only lead, 7-3.
After trading punts again, the Steelers got the ball on their own nine, with 1:39 to play in the half. And the Minnesota defense played like it was the fourth quarter, allowing the Steelers to move down the field and score a touchdown that game them a 10-7 lead at the half.
Pittsburgh seemed to be poised to put the thing out of reach on the first drive after intermission, with a couple of personal fouls from the purple people putting the Steelers inside the 10 in little over three minutes.
Somewhat amazingly, the Vikings’ defense stiffened, holding the Steelers to three points and keeping the score to a manageable margin, 13-7.
Minnesota responded, with a gutsy call on fourth and one from the Pittsburgh 35 turning into a 34-yard catch-and-run to Brett Favre’s new favorite target, Sidney Rice, giving the Vikings first and goal at the one. But after one run and two failed pass attempts, the coach known as “Chilly” got cold feet, opting for a field goal instead of going for the lead. 13-10.
After two more punts, the Steelers cobbled together another good drive, one that seemed to be destined to finally extend the margin to the final outcome of Super Bowl IX. But Rashard Mendenhall fumbled inside the five, on the second play of the fourth quarter.
After the game, coach Mike Tomlin said that Mendenhall got “a little careless,” but Tomlin added that Mendenhall’s spot as the starter isn’t in jeopardy — even though at one point late in the game Mewelde Moore was getting the reps.
After the fumble, the Vikings embarked on an epic 18-play drive, fueled by a remarkable toe-tapping sideline catch from Rice on third down and nearly 20. The official looking right at the play called it incomplete, and he was overturned via replay.
Then, the Vikings seemed to take the lead on a 10-yard pass from Favre to, fittingly, Rice. But a phantom tripping call on tight end Jeff Dugan wiped the score off the board.
And it was a horrible call, the kind of call that reinforces the suspicions of those who think that the league wants to see the Steelers win.
“I didn’t like it because Jeff Dugan is sitting there with a knot on his
thigh on a tripping penalty,” coach Brad Childress said, explaining that Dugan (as the video clearly indicated) was merely executing a cut block.
Two plays later, defensive end Brett Keisel applied a cut block to Favre’s arm while he was setting up to throw, and linebacker LaMarr Woodley turned in a slow-motion version of James Harrison’s touchdown run from Super Bowl XLIII.
The 10-point lead finally had been achieved. And with less than seven minutes to play, this one was over.
Enter Percy Harvin.
The rookie with a bad shoulder that probably got a little worse worse thanks to a jarring hit earlier in the game from safety Ryan Clark, which prompted Brett Favre to run down the field like the mom that jumped into the pool during the volleyball game in Meet The Parents, went 88 yards for a touchdown. The play featured a lame tackle attempt from Jeff “Beer Muscles” Reed and Jeff Dugan’s revenge. (As we observed at the time, Twitter style, it probably does make sense when playing the Steelers to block the officials, too.)
Then the Vikings defense played like it wasn’t the fourth quarter and the Vikings got the ball back and embarked on another memorable drive that ultimately would be remembered for a very different reason.
A play that seemed to turn the sense of inevitability toward the Vikings came from Minnesota’s 45, with a short pass from Favre to Adrian Peterson and a crushing blow delivered by Peterson against cornerback William Gay en route to a 26-yard gain that put the Vikings in position to at least force a tie — and possibly to win in regulation.
A play later, the Vikings were inside the Steelers’ 20, thanks to a seven-yard gain from Chester Taylor on a short pass.
But on the next play, with 1:15 on a rolling clock, Taylor let a short screen pass slip through his hands. Linebacker Keyaron Fox caught the ball, and embarked on another slo-mo saunter all the way to the end zone.
Finally, it was over. Pittsburgh 27, Minnesota 17.
So in a game where a suddenly shaky Vikings defense held up their end of the bargain (except in the last 99 seconds of the first half), it was the offense that moved the ball but, ultimately, handed 14 points to the Steelers in the fourth quarter.
For the Vikings, the 6-1 record is still impressive, especially with the Giants and Falcons losing on Sunday. But with a trip to Lambeau for a game against the two-loss Packers on the horizon, the hammerlock that the Minnesotans previously had on the NFC North suddenly is in jeopardy.
The Steelers have a full 15 days until their next game, a Monday nighter at Mile High. And it’s followed by a visit from the surprisingly 5-2 Bengals. So while the defending champs should be happy with their move to 5-2 (especially after starting out 1-2), there’s still a lot of work to be done in order to get back to the top of the conference — and they can’t rely every week on two 75-plus-yard defensive touchdowns in the last half of the fourth quarter.
Even felt guilty rooting for Favre.
I’m trying to get some work done–it’s November, time to start the pre-holiday rush and I’m already behind 
will shut this down before we get to 1000 posts?
Okay, right now I feel like such a girl! Back to the library lol
larrybird and pervyharvin — the good news is that you now know who your daddy is.
Please dont come here with the woulda, coulda, shoulda excuses. Simply admit your team has yet to learn how to win. They tried to blow it last week to Baltimore and did blow it this week.
You have a long way to go before you start pounding your chest about how great you are.
Cue the “the Vikings played well even if they lost” bullshit. I seem to remember a game from a Monday night a few weeks back where Packers fans said the same thing and Vikings fans summarily dismissed that as sour grapes from a lesser team in the same breath they were saying 16-0…Chew on this Vikings fans….your team will lose by at least a touchdown next week. Brett Favre, if you listen to the talking heads, is the best QB in the league. Brett Favre is maybe the 3rd best QB in that division right now, so save that talk. He may be the best QB on the team, but Kluwe is also their best punter..it’s all relative. Favre would not be able to unseat Rodgers in Green Bay, #12 is easily the best QB in the division, probably the conference (sorry Brees fans) Lastly, before MN fans talk about how Green Bay hasn’t played anybody, I would argue they have pretty much played the same schedule MN has (although I would put Cincy ahead of Pitt, and MN has played SF and Green Bay played Chicago…a tossup) Right now, MN has scoreboard, but payback is a bitch (just like PervyHarvin) and Green Bay takes the front seat for the division title with a home win in Favre’s Shakspearean Tragedy next Sunday.
Then, the Vikings seemed to take the lead on a 10-yard pass from Favre to, fittingly, Rice. But a phantom tripping call on tight end Jeff Dugan wiped the score off the board.
And it was a horrible call, the kind of call that reinforces the suspicions of those who think that the league wants to see the Steelers win.
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That was it right there. That was arguably the worse call on a team this season. Not only did that prevent the Vikings from taking the lead, it gave the Steelers a even bigger lead. We should be 7-0 and instead the Vikings got screwed. The so called bad ass Steelers got a total of 13 points against our defense, Little Ben Rottenburger could only muster up 175 yards passing, and Heins “Ketchup” Ward could only achieve a few yards receiving. So lets recap shall we? We kept the high scoring Steelers in check right, YES. We kept the leading passer in the NFL in check right? YES. And we kept the leading WR in the NFL in check right? YES.
The fact of the matter is this, the Steelers were gift wrapped and win yesterday and that is all there is to it. Oh and another thing, we did all that without our Pro Bowl CB Antoine Winfield. Don’t even talk about next week against GB, the Vikings are so above and beyond better then GB its not even funny. We are a much better team then they are. They may have looked against the shitty Browns, but we already have seen what they did against us, NOTHING but get their ass beat up.
It was a tough game where Pitt got a couple lucky breaks and a LOT of help from the refs. But if I am a Vikes fan or player, I would still hold my head up high. They proved yesterday that there 6-0 record leading up to the game was justified and that they can go anywhere in the NFL and be competitive. The Vikings are one of the few elite teams in the NFL.
Not going to blame the officials.
Hard fought game, Steelers defense came up big.
Vikes showed me alot though, it was inevitable that they were going to lose some games.
Tough loss means they are going into lam-blow pissed off.
Vikings lost because their offensive players can’t tackle. Whodathunk that?
Clearly Brett Favre is a poor tackler. I’ve seen kickers do a betterjob.
And yet, that’s not why they pay him.
You have to be kidding on the tripping call. That was the worst attempt at getting in somebody’s way since Jeff Reed tried to make a tackle. Flailing your legs up in the air will bring that call every time.
And even if you want to put that one on the refs, it would only be a make-up call for the phantom pass interference call on Heath Miller that wiped a Steeler TD off the board.
It amazes me that a team that gives up two sloppy defensive touchdowns will blame everybody but themselves.
Hey, its well known how I feel about the Vikings but really, the officials in that game should be banned for the rest of the year. It was so bad that it preventing me from gloating about the loss, a feeling that I had been looking forward to all week.
What is it with the Steelers? Can they ever just win a game without the help of the officials? I hope karma jams a couple of heartbreaking losses down their throats and they miss the playoffs.
Cue the male gental slurping Steeler fans. Be sure to point to Fat Ben’s goldie locks and Hines Wards lack of anything, Troy Palamalu missing several tackels because apparently someone never taught him how to wrap up on a ball carrier and also that leading with his head on every play is illegal, regardless of the officials lack of ability to throw a falg in the direction of any Steeler (proved by James Harrison’s dirty attempt to pull Favre to the ground 5 minutes after he threw the ball, by his knee). Enjoy your win.
” …the kind of call that reinforces the suspicions of those who think that the league wants to see the Steelers win.”
Here we go again with Florio’s anti-Steelers journalism. Why does the league want to see the Steelers win another Super Bowl? It makes no sense that everyone from the Commish to the referees are all in cahoots with each other.
Did you lose a bet on this game, Florio? … or is it because you are so gay for Favre that you needed to cheer yourself up! Don’t worry, he’ll retire again after this year, but reinstate himself just in time for 2010 … so you’ll have plenty to write about.
Then, the Vikings seemed to take the lead on a 10-yard pass from Favre to, fittingly, Rice. But a phantom tripping call on tight end Jeff Dugan wiped the score off the board.
You are so full of it he was rolling into Harrison and clearly threw his leg up watch it in slow motion it was a good call. They have showed it everywhere and all of them say it was a good call.
thank you florio this article was very good, while the vikes outplayed the steelers the two turnovers were their undoing and the steeler fans shouldn’t gloat too much considering the vikes got a TD stolen by the refs, but anyway congrats on the win PIT, see you in the SB(like I predicted prior to the season)
There’s the Vikes homer we’ve come to know and love! But I wouldn’t make my superbowl travel plans until after the upcoming showdown on the frozen tundra. Green Bay kept Rogers over Favre for a good reason.
No question that phantom call on Dugan was very bad. Not a good day for the refs who earlier took away the Steelers first touchdown on a questionable call on Heath Miller.
The Vikes lost. Plain and simple. Dont try to rationlize it with a bunch of BS.
That tripping call was a joke. Its called a cut block, and it gets executed like that at least 50 times in any given NFL game. Only difference is this time it was on a play that would give a team the lead over the stealers. Now we all know we cant have that. Pittsburgh is too good to lose to the lowly vikes. Oh well, we got the loss out of the way in a game that we played well enough to win. It was just stolen by the refs.
If that is what it takes to beat the vikings than I think they are pretty damn good.
Blueprint for beating the vikes: Horrible call to overturn go ahead TD + 2 fumbles bouncing your way in the last 5 minutes + a usually surehanded RB booting a screen pass right into a linebackers chest
if you can do that you can beat the vikes
@ roadkill And even if you want to put that one on the refs, it would only be a make-up call for the phantom pass interference call on Heath Miller that wiped a Steeler TD off the board.
You know the haters will say this was a good call cause it went against the Steelers.
I love how when the Steelers win it is always the refs who win it for them. The fact of the matter is , the refs didnt win this one for them the Defense did. It was a good game and the outcome was not what alot of Vikings fans wanted.
and I agree with your last paragraph. Sloppy play was what lost them the game. nothing More
Get over it haters A win is a A win .. Steelers won Vikings lost . Get Over it
Foolio, why no mention of the phanton offensive pass interference on Heath Miller that wiped a Steelers TD off the board? Miller was on the opposite side of the field from the pass, and the defender ran right into him.
I suppose it was the refs fault somehow that the Vikings false started a half dozen times right?
Blaming the refs is the lowest common denominator. Leg whipping James Harrison to prevent a sack is a penalty, you incompetent hack.
tripping call? You are gonna hang your hat on this tripping call? You probably still think Darren Nelson had that TD versus Washington in the 1987 NFC championship game, too huh? That’s hilarious.
makes up for that shitty offensive pass interference call on Heath Miller that negated the TD by Holmes.
It seems that the sun, moon, and zebras are all aligned for another Pittsburgh Super Bowl run. What a travesty to have such a great game decided by the most ridiculous call since the Hochuli. I know that the way of thinking in Pittsburgh is that the call evens things out for the Miller PI call, but that call is made more often than not. There is no way to even conceive that the call on Dugan was tripping, and doesn’t it seem kind of odd that the flag flew out just as the ball hit Rice’s hands?
Good luck in Miami, Steelers, it should be a pretty easy journey with help like that.
“But a phantom tripping call on tight end Jeff Dugan wiped the score off the board.”
How is throwing your legs into a defender a phantom call? And wasn’t it the same Jeff Dugan who later crushed an official with a “phantom” block from his blind side? Retaliation?
Expect a fine.
Fact – Vikings will NEVER win if Favre has to throw more than 50 times in a game.
roadkill – you must be kidding. This notion that is was a phantom call isnt the creation of a few irrate Viking fans, the announcers themselves concurred.
As for Dugans, i have a feeling this man will find himself on waivers very shortly. It is hard to prove intent, but certainly watching the ref-block by gives you an uneasy feeling about his actions. Extending yours arms after contacting the refs, contact that I feel was made because Dugans stepped towards the ref, seems terrible as a isolated incident. However, add in the fact that he just got a horrible call on him, well even a thirda grader could draw a reasonable conclusion from this event.
@Vikes-N-Favre says: October 26, 2009 8:21 AM
“The fact of the matter is this, the Steelers were gift wrapped and win yesterday and that is all there is to it.”
What about the “phantom holding call” on heath Miller that wiped out a Hines Ward TD catch?
Bad calls go both ways.
Why not blame Percy Harvin for not holding onto the ball instead of clamming up knowing Clark was about to take his head off?
I love when the steelers beat a good team, and its always “the refs” who won it. All started with us beatiung the seahawks and holgrom crying becusase his team wasnt good enough to beat us. Had to be somebody else’s fault. Look, we had a td taking off the board also, REMEMNER? Oh, and i am sure it was the refs fault because our defense was able to score points too. Oh yea, the refs made sure “the best running back ever” and “the best qb ever” coundt score from the 1 foot line? I remember the refs “giving” them another chance with some crazy off sides penalty? They had 4 chances to move the ball 1 foot, and could not do it, but the refs lost the game? RIGHT!
Before we shead a tear for the Vikings, keep in mind the only reason they didn’t come into this game with two losses (at home) is a hail mary against the 49′ers and the shank of a routine fieldgoal by the Ravens.
Relax Viking fan you have the biggest cupcake schedule in the league the rest of the way out. You may not loose another game until the Saints blow your doors blown off in the playoffs.
I usually don’t resort to name calling on any form of internet chatter, but Tundra, if you really think that Rodgers is better than Drew Brees, you must be a retard. Rodgers is a decent young QB, but until he wins more than 6 games in a season and can figure out how to close out games at the end, he has no business being mentioned as a top tier QB. A big part of playing QB is pocket presence, which AR has none of. At this point, I would say he is the second best in the North, a close 2nd to Favre. I would rather have a winner than a stat machine, 6-10 QB who gets sacked 5 times a game.
Florio likes to rile people up with one-sided officiating jabs. Why mention the controversial tripping penalty that took away a Vikings TD without mentioning the controversial pass interference call against Heath Miller that took away a Steelers TD? The answer: by doing that he goads people into getting into arguments about officiating, which in turn gets his page view numbers up.
Vikes n Favre, let’s recap what you missed.
Vikings lost…CHECK
Vikings fans pissed and moaned about refs…CHECK
“The Vikings are above and beyond….” That’s goddamned hilarious. If that was the case, what was with the 7 point home win?
VikesNFavre is a douchebag….oh, yeah…CHECK!!
roadkill: “And even if you want to put that one on the refs, it would only be a make-up call for the phantom pass interference call on Heath Miller that wiped a Steeler TD off the board.
It amazes me that a team that gives up two sloppy defensive touchdowns will blame everybody but themselves.”
Amen, brotha.. As a Steeler fan, I even wondered about that tripping call.. but it was a clear make up on that B.S. interference penalty. I won’t even bitch about how many holds against Harrison aren’t called every week.. Saying “Oh yeah? Well, we kept the leading passer and receiver in the league in check.” is ridiculous. You lost. Stop trying to make yourselves feel better. Luck, skill, whatever..it’s another mark in the WIN column.
Vikes-N-Favre says: October 26, 2009 8:21 AM
Man, that’s an awful lot of chest-thumping for a team that lost.
The tripping call was horrible, as was the pass interference call against Heath Miller which also took a touchdown off the board. Officiating in general is bad. The losers usually complain the loudest.
Wow, the venom from these few Steelers fans says alot. As a Vikings fan, I thought it was a good game from both teams. Stats-wise (which arguably mean nothing except for the final score) the Vikings won the match-ups. Both teams coughed up the rock. Both teams capitalized on some key plays.
The tripping call was a crappy call…announcers agreed. And to say it made up for the Miller “pick” is just not correct. It was an illegal pick accordign to the rules of the game. Dugan was using a chop block (which is legal, btw, when you are engaged on that player).
Favre was the better QB, Peterson was a beast and Kluwe…well he sucked ass.
IMHO, the better team did not win yesterday. But the Steelers are a very good football team…the margin between them is very, very close.
No excuses–let the idiots talk their high school shit. The Vikings played hard and well, but made too many mistakes at critical times. The officiating wasn’t outstanding, but that cuts both ways and it is a part of the game. The reason to be optimistic is that this team has never quit. Between 2000 and 2006, Vikings fans couldn’t count on a 4th quarter comeback. That’s changed, and it’s not only because of Favre.
FireJerryJones says: October 26, 2009 8:26 AM
“Clearly Brett Favre is a poor tackler. I’ve seen kickers do a betterjob. ”
kickers not named Jeff Reed that is.
Phantom penalty for the trip? What about the touchdown that got taken away from Holmes on a offensive pass interference??? Yeah no mention of that, go find the replay of it and let me know what you see. So shut up all you Minnesota cry-babies & Florio, the refs made bad calls for BOTH teams. The Steelers made more plays and came away with the win. Florio get off the whole “The NFL wants the Steelers to win conspiracy”…jackass.
I think this game meant more for the Vikes.
For them it was their Super Bowl. Their opportunity to prove themselves worthy by beating one of the best in the league on their home turf.
For Pittsburgh, it was a great win against a quality non-conference opponent.
What pansies the Steelers are to need the officials to protect them in all their close games.
The Vikings EARN their victories.
I’m not sure why everyone is calling the tripping call a “phantom” call or “ticky tack.” Dugan cut block Harrison using his legs. It’s pretty obvious. Tripping can occur with any part of a player’s leg. Vikings fans should be angry at Dugan, who could have used proper form to block Harrison instead of wildly flinging his body at Harrison’s legs.
The worst call in this game was the Offensive PI call on Heath Miller that wiped out Santonio Holmes touchdown early in the game.
@LMacball: Anti-Steelers journalism? Florio isn’t anti-Steelers. He probably gets a little sick of hearing about them since he lives in their backyard, but he’s never shown an anti-Steelers bias. He is, however, a life-long Vikings fan, and that really shows through in this piece.
This was a game that the Vikings almost planned to lose, not that the Stellers didn’t deserve to win.
The Vikings are going to lose a few games and this was #1 on the list as the most likely (at the defending Super Bowl champs). #2 on the list is one of four games vs. the Bears and Packers. There will probably be one or two more, but still enough to win the division and have the #2 seed in the NFC.
Another reason they were not upset with losing is to take the pressure off being 7-0 for the game at Lambaugh. As long as they played well and could hold their head high after the loss, which they did.
The locker room was upbeat after the loss — the offense moved the ball well, the defense played one of its most complete games of the year without Antoine Winfield, and special teams contributed a TD. It’s just that breaks went against them, and that happens to every team. Now they will be more focused on the upcoming game.
And I don’t think officating was the cause of the loss. Yes the Sidney Rice TD was called back, but they still had another chance to score, but turned the ball over. And the Heath Miller pass interference wasn’t phantom. he knocked Chad Greenway on his back. If the refs hadn’t called that, the conspiracy theories would have been justified.
Ben & the Steelers beat two undefeated teams back in ’04 back to back – the Pats at 6-0 and the following week the Eagles at 7-0.
Next up, the undefeated Broncos, if they survive Baltimore at home next week.
Win or lose, look for the Ravens to lay a hurt on the Broncos, they’ll end up limping into week 9.
post week 9 excuse:
“The refs handed the game to the Steelers”
there, got that out of the way…
Rodgers is a good QB. That being said, then enough with the crying by Packers’ fans about Favre playing for the Vikings. The Packers have their QB and didn’t want Favre any longer. So, the Vikings wanted him, and he wanted to play for them. Favre does not owe the Packers and their fans anything. Tundrastruck is the perfect example of the crying Packer fan. The Packers won one superbowl in the 90′s and the rest in the 60′s Packer fans act like that gives them the right to be arrogant.
I could say some good things about the Packers team, but I have little good to say their fans, they are not worthy of respect. The Packers had better beat the Vikings this coming Sunday, because if they don’t, I worry that their fanbase won’t be able to take the blow to their egos
There is no way that any Vikings fan, or “sportswriter”, should be bitching about calls when I saw a blatant hold on the Harvin TD that was absolutely impossible to miss. That exact hold has been called before.
Actually, there were two holds on that return that were totally blatant.
Thank you Roadkill for pointing out the bad pass interference call on Miller. Everyone in the NFL runs a pick play and it is barely called. That play happened on the opposite side of the field and had nothing to do with the would be touchdown. And it’s not Millers fault that the guy ran into him and fell.
And Florio maybe you should watch the play again. Dugan dives at Harrisons left knee, when Harrison moves to the right of the dive Dugan turns his body sideways and throws his legs up. No he didn’t trip like Flozell Adams does. But Harrison had him beat and he knew it.
And everyone always wants to cry about suspicions that the refs cheat for the Steelers. Here are the penalties from the previous games of the year. Where is the cheating at? And if you watch every Steeler game you would also know that there are at least 2-3 missed holding calls on Harrison every game.
Game 1 vs Titans:
Titans 5-28 Steelers 6-60
Game 2 @ Bears:
Steelers 6-52 Bears 10-80
Game 3 @ Cincy
Steelers 5-51 Bengals 4-30
Game 4 vs Chargers
Chargers 3-20 Steelers 6-59
Game 5 @ Lions
Steelers 6-59 Lions 6-66
Game 6 vs Browns
Browns 4-45 Steelers 4-30
“But a phantom tripping call on tight end Jeff Dugan wiped the score off the board.”
Vikings won that game and all you lil steely fans who think otherwise are up to their ears in BS. It’s cool it was a non-conference game and it wasn’t needed. At least we know we can dominate the Steelers D if needed.
Thanks Refs, you guys tried REAL hard to give this to the Steelers and we did our damnedest to keep the BS from happening. Kudos Vikings…
Minnesota fans can easily complain about officiating etc. Things like that all seem to even out in the end with the exception of Green Bay’s 07 and 08 campaigns. Green Bay got every break in 07 and the Karma Gods took it out on us last year with an entire season of bad luck. Minnesota has won a game at home with a heave and won a game at home on a missed kick. I would feel fortunate to be 6-1.
damn I had no idea Vikes fans were so whiny. Just man up and admit your ancient QB blew the game. Every game has bad calls… How about the massive hold on the KR by Harvin? Take a look at the top right corner here…
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You can clearly seen the guys hand holding onto the steelers players’ shoulder not letting him turn. Now it looks like he’s nowhere near the play (not that that matters) but he would have been had he not been held. SAME thing happened last week against the browns for those that say the refs want the Steelers to win.
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/polamaulyou43/Picture2.png
Take a look at Ratliff (27)
# leatherneck says: October 26, 2009 9:04 AM
“What pansies the Steelers are to need the officials to protect them in all their close games.
The Vikings EARN their victories.”
Apparently they earn their losses too.
@ kravon -Are you a teenager or just a punk? You and your creepy man love obsession with me has no place on PFT. GO AWAY! You are a embarrassment to good Steeler fans with your Packer like moronic takes.
‘The Stealers our Daddy??? Please ass,the game was their for our taking with a minute left. Favre threw all over that D,our young secondary kept big yardage Ben in check. We held time of posession big time. No excuses,Steelers D made 2 plays that mattered. I want ONE Steeler fan to admit not praying for victory when Peterson murder trucked Gay and we got the first with Favre at the wheel with a min. and change.
And Clark didn’t do shit to Percy.Try to find it on a highlight. We know Gay seen the real NFL beast,AD,make him his punk. It’s every where,turn on the tv,you can’t miss it. Love the primal scream AD delivered after that play,a wild man.
Now go away before your own fans come after you douche!!
Laxer37 says:
October 26, 2009 8:35 AM
No question that phantom call on Dugan was very bad. Not a good day for the refs who earlier took away the Steelers first touchdown on a questionable call on Heath Miller.
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So that’s it right there. Even if the call on Dugan was bad, there was still another call on Miller to negate it.
You Steeler haters are absolutely ridiculous. I wonder if the Steelers can ever win a game without you idiots blaming it on the refs or some other fluke. Are you people that jealous of the greatest franchise in NFL history? If so, get a life. As mentioned during the game, that 7-3 deficit the Steelers had early on was the most they’ve been down all season. Maybe that should tell you people something. Yes, they are good. But they do still need work.
Chapnasty, your posts aren’t even worthy of replies anymore. The more you post your idiotic comments, the more it looks like you’re a person who knows shit about football, but instead likes to masturbate with tin foil because it makes you feel like you’re raping R2-D2. Get a life man.
Steelers won. It was because of great defense, not a phantom call. Get over it people.
So glad someone pointed out the hold on the KR by Harvin. That was a worse non-call than the tripping call. It was blatantly obvious. What about the vikings center that bobs his head on every passing down? He could have been nailed for false starts all day long.
The flag on Miller that negated the Holmes TD made the Dugan trip on Harrison look like a great call…
Quite a write up on the game, but why no mention of Brad Childress dressing in drag, complete with a wig, nylons & lipstick during the flight from Minn.?
/ snicker
“The tripping call was a crappy call…announcers agreed. And to say it made up for the Miller “pick” is just not correct. It was an illegal pick accordign to the rules of the game. Dugan was using a chop block (which is legal, btw, when you are engaged on that player).”
Stop the presses! The announcers said it was a bad call!
Yeah, no Favre-love going on there.
Take off your purple-colored glasses.
There may have been some holding on Harvin’s kick return, but that’s not why he scored.
1) The kid is incredibly fast and agile
2) Reed’s kick was pathetic. It was low and short.
3) The kick coverage was bad.
Put those three things together and you get a touchdown.
Bottom line, the Vikings were awful in the Redzone. Brad Childress made poor decisions.
“damn I had no idea Vikes fans were so whiny. Just man up and admit your ancient QB blew the game.”
Amen.
We have the Seattle Seahawks, the Baltimore Seahawks, the Arizona Seahawks, and now the Minnesota Seahawks. No one will ever match the whining capacity of the original Seattle product though.
It was a great game. Steelers should be breathing a sigh of relief. 2 flukie defensive TDs & 1 drive at the end of the 1st half. I would not be beating my chest if I were them.
The pick on the Holmes TD called back was obvious. The defender was clearly picked as we was de-cleated & knocked down. The cut-block call was questionable. I would not call it a conspiracy, but I would call it a bad-call.
But, Steelers play in a tough division & play some difficult non-conference games. They are the super bowl champs for a reason.
If I am the Vikes, I keep my head held high. They outplayed the Steelers for the most part & had a couple plays go the other way. No excuses, the other team just won the game.
I love PervyHarvin even though your lanquage is offensive!!!
I dont need to call you names, or desire to fight you, to prove any point yet you continue to do so in all your posts.
Our educational system has failed you my friend.
Final score 27-17. And once again, I have never – ever – stated I am a Steelers fan or Packers fan.
Any quarterback that throws the ball 51 times against any defense the history of the NFL is bound to get some yards.
I am glad Peterson called to the Gods after he ran through William Gay. Remind me, how many negative rushes did Adrian have during the game? Perhaps a fan should have loaned him a terrible towel to wipe the tears from his eyes after the loss.
The game is over . The win went to the Steelers. Was a very close game. Every game has bad calls. We went into their house and had a great chance to win. I see more upside from this game. The Vikes never give up and can move the ball when it counts.Mistakes will get you every time though. Good game Steelers. Can’t wait for the Pack. They are not in the Steelers or Vikings league.
Well if you wanna compare terrible calls the offensive pass interference led to 3 points for the steelers and the tripping led to 7 points for the steelers and so a 14 point swing on the tripping call.
With that said both teams played hard and shouldnt feel bad about their performance, hopefully their play and the performance of the officials are better by playoff time.
Well
Pervy- Praying like all of Vikings nation was for last week’s FG to miss?
Talk about being an embarassment to a fanbase, keep the vuglarity and personal attacks out of your comments and maybe you will taken seriously.
@ kravon
Go ahead and call him names, that is the beauty of this website. I’m not sure if you watched the same Adrian Peterson as he bounced off of the man with the woman’s hair that everyone thinks is so amazing. Peterson is a beast regardless of his 4 or 5 negative run plays that happen to every back in every game. If you are going to speak make sure you know what you are talking about or people will start to call you names.
As a Vikings fan, I will be paying VERY close attention to the “Official Review” feature on NFL Network this week.
That should be interesting.
Let’s add some of the Vikings fans to the list of whiners who leverage the same old lies. Was the call on Dugan bad, yes. Was the call on Miller bad, yes. That is the game of football.
Vikes-N-Favre, chapnasty and leatherneck you are the worst kind of fans. All excuses and conspiracy bull crap when a team the Steelers play loses. So sorry your team cannot win six super bowls. We earned them and take your conpiracy crap and shove it up your mama’s butt.
Pervyharvin – are you saying the Packers are inferior to the Vikings and Steelers??
Why then are the Vikings a 3 point underdog this week??
Lifelong vikes fan here. People need to tone down the rhetoric. It was a great game, vikes held in check the suddenly high passing Steelers. They also moved the ball well (except for the first quarter). There were some bad calls but teams can’t control that and yes calls both ways. However the steelers showed that they have the ability to pull out wins. Both of those long 70+ returns were by fat slow d-linemen. But the entire steelers defense formed convoys for them.
The vikings performed great and lost. They also performed poorly and won earlier this year.
Glad to see that Petersen wasn’t hurt from last week. The play where he completely ran over Gay was fantastic. Almost as great a hit as Dugan on the ref but I think that might draw a fine.
For the love of god, is NOBODY on here going to acknowledge the most disturbing fact in this game. The head coach of the Minnesota Vikings was a cross-dresser on the team flight. WTF???? How can you possibly be a Viking fan when you’re coach who is already labeled by most as a dumbass pulls off a stunt like that. He’s already a creeper as most people will acknowledge. This only makes him more creepy. What a Childo!!!!
“Vikings coach Brad Childress dressed up as a female flight attendant during the team’s flight to Pittsburgh on Saturday, ESPN reported.
Childress told ESPN’s Rachel Nichols it was a reminder to his players, which entered Sunday at 6-0, that they needed to block out pressure as they girded for a test against the Steelers.
“It’s just a game,” Childress told Nichols (via Twitter). “Have fun.”
The coach donned a wig, blue nylons and lipstick (framed around his beard). ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that Childress had warned the team earlier that they’re to give the utmost respect to flight attendants.”
BTW Florio, Sharper was more of a liability than a plus last year. Green Bay let him go and he had a resurgence in Minnesota. Minnesota lets him go and he has a career year in New Orleans. Sounds like he needs a change of scenery every so often. Nothing wrong with that.
Well Well Well..VikesnFarve… the tripping call was bogus but so was the Pass Interference on Heath Miller..that took away our td too. EVEN..wait no another MISSED CALL…A HOLD and HANDS TO THE FACE on the kickoff return.. but i BET You didnt see that huh? Anyway… I thought it was a great game..and for the first time this season the Defense picked up the slack to help out the O.
You can blame the refs all you want but the refs didnt strip brett of the ball n return it .. they also didnt throw the pick..that also went all the way:-)
lol@everyoe riding the hit on Gay by Peterson..lol apparently yall missed Mendenhall running all over that D -til the fluke fumble.. you should be sending him a thank you card!
The only Stat yall should be concerned with is .. the win -loss
Lol Arent these some of the same fans who just last year HATED Favre????? LOL
“in the hopes of finally getting back to the Super Bowl for the first time in 33 years — and winning it for the first time in 44…”
this quote implies the bi-queens have won a superbowl, which we all know is not true. they are 0-4, but brent might be able to help them achieve 0-5 this season…
@ Calistan -Exactly. Same kind of prayer. Football is football. Man’s sport dude. Sometimes vulgarity crops up,this isn’t rated G. If you don’t take me seriously,no sweat off my sack.
Kravon- You should talk about a failed education. That football IQ you sport is simply amazing!!! You a Rams fan? lol
Wouldn’t it be interesting to see these teams play on a neutral field with neutral refs?
It could have gone either way and the teams are well matched. As for the refs, teams expect about the same treatment in Pittsburg as baseball teams do when playing the Yankess in NY. So, not much of a shock that the calls went 4 to 1 in favor of the home teram.
And one more thing, what the hell is up with Childress calling a timeout with 4 seconds to go and you’re down by two scores? What in god’s name could that accomplish? I mean you need two scores. It would be impossible for them to score twice in four seconds. Impossible. I understand teams playing ’til the final whistle, but talk about delaying the inevitable.
All you Steeler haters just keep on hating. We know why you do it. It’s okay.
Here we go again…can the Steelers ever get credit for a victory? As many mentioned, that call on Miller was much worse. How is it a pick play when he gets off the line and cant even run his route because a Vikes defender is there to “take a charge”? Oh that’s right, the fox announcers said it was a bad call so it must be true! let’s look at who called the game:
-Tony Siragusa: played for the Colts when the Steelers beat them for the AFC title in ’95 and later played for the Ravens, oh yeah no bias there.
-Moose Johnston: a Cowboy for life, i’m sure he really likes to say positive things about the Steelers.
Everyone else i have seen said it was a good call. It’s called a leg whip. Dugan was beat on the play and wanted to do everything in his power to keep his 40 year old QB from seeing the white light after Harrison would have cleaned his clock.
It was a good game from both sides. It’s dumb to discard all of that by just merely saying “the refs wanted the steelers to win”
Why all of this Viking fan whining? You should he HAPPY that your team isn’t sitting 4-3 right now. We all know the SF game was a miracle win, and a kicker decided your fate against Baltimore.
I think you should be worried about why Adrian Peterson hasn’t rushed for 100 yards in 5 out of 7 games and why your defense gives up so many damn yards and points.
What am i getting at? You are lucky to be 6-1 and you will be exposed in the playoffs. Just another season of watching the Super Bowl from the couch for the Vikings.
That “phantom tripping penalty” gave the Steelers the game.
That horrible call turned into a 14 point swing in the Steelers favor, with the final margin in the game being just 10.
GG Refs, nice to know that the Rooney and Kraft families still hold a special place in your hearts.
PS: Florio, can you fix the login process? Every time I come here on a Monday, the site says I’m logged in but when I try to post it errors out saying that I have to register, and I lose everything that I typed. Very, very annoying.
Kravon:
Are you that freaking retarded?
Don’t answer, it’s a rhetorical question.
The ” underdog Vikings” comment is very lame and proves you know nothing about football or betting lines, yes, that’s what the “odds” are, a betting line.
The spread is to induce betting on both sides of the odds, so the bookmakers bring in the most possible money!!
Only an idiot fan like you looks at the spread and thinks that a team is “favored” over another.
The Pack is -3 because the game is at Lambeau, just like when they played at the dome the Vikings were -3.
Your total ineptitude at posting is surpassed only by your lack of knowledge.
You are neither a fan of the Steelers or Packers?
Then what the hell are you doing on the thread?
Is your team so pathetic and out of it already you have to go on a thread of other teams?
You only make yourself look like a moron.
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Whatthehelldidyouputinyourass?:
Really? You are going to focus on that?
Sounds like a coach trying to keep his team loose and nothing more. So much for that schism on the team.
You and Chilly have a lot in common. he dressed up as a woman.
You try to pass yourself off as a competent poster.
We know Chilly isn’t a woman, and we are positive you aren’t a competent poster..
What’s the matter, did you see him in drag and your little dingus went to full mast?
If so, I could see why it concerns you so much…
@ Florio and you other numbnuts who forgot about the total B-llsh-t, totally wrong offensive pass interference call on Heath Miller in the 1st half, that should have resulted in the score being 7-0.
When you see the “tripping” call, I must admit that when he rolls over and sticks his right leg up in the air, it does seem somewhat suspicious.
Nonetheless, Florio and you numbnuts who can’t accept the fact that these calls cancel each other out … get over it. If the calls go the other way, let’s just say that the Steelers still win by a score of at least 24-21, even if they only return 1 turnover for a TD late in the game.
Vikes are a solid, solid team that will be there at the end of the season. They have the ingredients if they stay healthy. They battled, as did Pittsburgh. The Steelers won, end of story, end of discussion, end of BS debates over officiating. The OPI on Miller in the 1st half was a complete numbnuts call by an incompetent official. Those types of plays need to be open to challenges, so that they can consult the freaking rule book and realize that Heath Miller did not initiate contact directly with either defender, he was running a route and a 2nd defender plowed into him. Blown call. Accept it and if you think the tripping was a blown call, then you’ll realize it wouldn’t have contributed to a different ending.
Vikings outplayed the Steelers. But due to a couple of fluky defensive TD’s they lost the game. The Steelers had many more balls on the ground and/or tipped high in the air but were just plain luckier.
That’s football. The good news for the Vikings is that they matched up fine in a tough road game against the defending champs despite being banged up. They look like a team that should be able to close the division out.
Like I was telling people all week, don’t overlook the Vikings defense because of one bad quarter. And they really delivered, containing them well on their home turf.
Now they step down the competitive scale with a trip to Lambeau. They should be able to win this game if they put forth the same effort and aren’t freakishly unlucky.
Notes from the game. I love how after the Vikings were robbed on the phantom Dugan call that on the ensuing kickoff Dugan leveled a ref seemingly for no reason other than hate. I mean, he lined the guy up in open field and ran him down. It was awesome. And AP running over Gay was pretty hilarious. Guy looked like a rodeo clown getting leveled. Good stuff.
Great game though. Two tough teams that will be there in the playoffs.
It would be nice to see at least one game changing call go AGAINST the steelers, pats or colts. If that ever happens it could put to rest the argument of league favortism.
Chickenfoot – thanks for the education!!
You are so awesome. I will say a prayer for you this afternoon because you are obviously an angry person.
Pervyharvin – You really give all Vikings fans a bad name. I will pray for you as well.
God Bless.
Steeler-lady proves the adage that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Mendenhall was stripped of the ball by Pat Williams. That was a much a fluke as the strip of Favre.
Bottom line, the Steeler D outscored the “vaunted” Vikings Offense 14-10. There’s your game story.
Viking fans are as classless as their coach who called two of the biggest plays in the game “fluke plays”. Chilly should learn from Tomlin who didn’t make any bones about the punt return TD. Sure the Vikings D limited Big Ben and Ward but what about the Steelers restricting “the best player in the world Adrian Peterson” and the big mouth Jared Allen (one tackle, one pass deflection)? Steelers gave it to Vikings and Viking fans should suck it up. There will always going to be bad calls by refs on both sides in every game but to find excuses rather than accepting the loss is typical Vikings whining babies trait. They will shut their mouth next week when Packs give them another one to lick their wounds. Go Packers!
Maybe the Vikings lost because your “all world, best to ever play the game, purple jesus, gift from god, no one can tackle him, unstoppable, all day” running back had 69 rushing yards…
What I saw yesterday was one helluva football game. There’s bad calls in all football games & they usually even out. Both teams got screwed.
Please don’t start with the Favre’s gonna fade in the last half crap. The INT was not on Favre Chester should have had it. He’ll have to take credit for the strip though. That’s football. Favre took a pretty good beating yesterday and at one point I saw him smiling at a lineman who had just decked him like he was saying “is that all you got?”
The game had plenty of chances to go either way and neither team should hang their heads or do a lot of chest thumping.
Pittsburg fans & Vike fans should both be proud of their teams. One hell of a game. I’m not sure, with the possible exception of the Saints, that there’s anyone in the NFC that can handle this version of the Vikes. Steelers still have to deal with the Colts & NE & possibly (can’t believe I’m saying this) the Broncos. It appears The Broncos got the better QB out of that deal.
Also, if the Pack is a 3 point favorite for next Sunday I’ll bet my house that changes prior to next Sunday. I’m a Pack fan and really liked their game yesterday but it was the BROWNS. I really don;t think they can handle the Vikes yet–still got a few more pieces to put together. Hell, I’m just glad Rodgers finally got through a game without getting sacked.
Vikings fans were beating their chests after winning on a Hail Mary against San Fran, and a missed, completely makeable FG vs. Baltimore.
Now they want to claim the bad breaks excuse for losing. Hmmm.
Give ME a break.
Great game to watch. Although bummed the Vikes lost, fun to watch two quality teams compete. Congrats to Steelers. Yes there were poor calls by the refs, I thought 1 against Pit and 2 againsts Mn. Both teams made a few mistakes, the Vikes manage to make more and it cost them.
@ kravon – You say I give Vike fans a bad name??I gave the Steelers due credit with no excuses. You are the bad guy on this site.The bully. Making fun of my education? So what if I dropped out in the 4th grade??Was being raised by coyotes?? Was taken in by the Cus D’amato of Madden Football and became a modern day legend on the sticks and all things football related?? You are just jealous Jim Bakker. You don’t know football.
Great Article, Great Game.
The Dugan call was bad, but it didn’t cost the Vikings the game. There were bad calls and no calls on both sides. In the end, the Steelers made the plays they had to in order to win the game. They seem to do this an inordinate amount of the time, so I doubt it is just luck.
I’m surprisingly happy with my team today. This was a game the Steelers needed just to stay even in their division (while we had a 2.5 game lead in ours) and were playing at home in front of a great crowd. Usually that combination wins out as it did yesterday. Plus, this was one of the “lose” games I had when I set my schedule at the start of the season. But, the Vikes never quit and answered the blows, outplaying the Steelers in some facets. But, the Steelers found their way to victory, which great teams do.
Congrats Steelers Fans on the victory. You have a good team so do we. Hopefully we’ll be able to reconvene in a little over 4 months.
Kravon:
Your welcome. I’m not angry though. I expected the loss, they wern’t going undefeated.
I just dislike stupidity, so you wound up on my list.
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Frank Burns eats worms.
I love Mondays when the vikings lose on Sunday.
On the 1 foot line and you can’t score, you deserve to lose!!
Frank Burns says:
October 26, 2009 10:51 AM
Bottom line, the Steeler D outscored the “vaunted” Vikings Offense 14-10. There’s your game story.
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The Steeler D ALSO outscored the “vaunted” Steeler Offense AS WELL.
The Steelers won and deserve congrats for gutting out a win. It’s the same type of win with flukey plays that the Vikes have had a couple of times — this time the worm just turned.
Woulda, coulda, shouldas like the lousy tripping aren’t worth making. To go that route, you’d then have to say the Vikes should have overcome the lousy call and blocked the D-lineman better on the next play to prevent the fumble that caused the TD. The Steelers defense took advantage, while the Vike’s D let INTs and fumbles slip through their fingers.
The Vikes played well, maybe a bit better, but the Steelers made the plays and they didn’t, and thus deserved the win. I hope the Vikes get a chance to play them again this year.
Pervyharvin – Thanks for letting me know I dont know football.
I win. Steelers won. Packers will win.
Evil is destroyed.
The call on Miller was a for a pick. The commentators even acknowledged the fact that it was. Teams run picks all the time, but Miller lowered the boom on the corner. You can’t go at the corner, lower your shoulder and flatten the guy before theball is even thrown. And it dosen’t matter if that was the receiver thrown to or not.
I think you should have to pass a football IQ test before being able to post on these places. Most of the people posting on here have no clue when it comes to the rules of the game. The only football most of you have played was a damn video game, Pop Warner dosen’t count.
Real-Vikes-Fan says:
October 26, 2009 11:06 AM
Great game to watch. Although bummed the Vikes lost, fun to watch two quality teams compete. Congrats to Steelers.
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Great post, Real-Vikes-Fan. That’s what I was hoping to see more of from the Vikes fans on the posts today, but unfortunately it seems most of your brethren would rather make excuses then own up to the fact they just flat out lost. Way to step up though. I have to say that’s very classy. Great post.
And just so you know, I am being very serious about it being a classy post. I’m not be sarcastic at all, seriously. I just wish more of the vikes fans would have posted the same way.
Vikings you don’t even contend every year. You are nothing but a 1/2 season wonder. Know your place, you are nothing special we have won 4 super bowls since we beat you in 1975. The last time you were in the super bowl.
You are lucky that they make us play a team like you because you are losers, you have no bragging rights.
Learn how to score on the 1 foot line before you try to blame the refs.
You were on the 1 foot line with 4 tries and could not score. Your great running back was held to 69 yards.
What’s your excuse for that?
Stop crying.
Steelers’ Curtain of Chaos strikes again!
Kraven and Tundrastruck, you no class.
It was a great game, one that could’ve gone either way. Can’t you leave it that and stfu?? Being a poor winner is just as bad as being a poor loser. Can’t teach class I guess.
What people also don’t realize about this Vikings team is that their “GOD” RB has failed to reach 100 yards in 5 out of their 7 games.
And their “GREAT” defense is ranked 23rd overall in the NFL and they give up a ton of points and yards.
Is this team really that good? Are they really 6-1 good? No.
Take away a hail mary win, a kicker giving them a win, and this team is sitting at 4-3 with people considering them “average”.
This team isn’t going anywhere, you can write it down. It isn’t realistic to think a team who has played Cleveland, Detroit and St. Louis so far is going to nut up against better teams in the playoffs.
Wow Carl-this must be the first Monday you have enjoyed in quite a while
It would be nice to see at least one game changing call go AGAINST the steelers, pats or colts. If that ever happens it could put to rest the argument of league favortism.
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The Steelers have been knocked out of the playoffs a couple of times due to bad calls or no calls.
Talk to D Washington after a drawing a running into the kicker penalty against Tenn after a missed game winning field goal. They line em up again and Tenn kicks the FG to win the playoff game.
Or maybe talk to the 4 Steelers that got held on David Garrards 4th and forever run to knock the Steelers out of the playoffs a couple of seasons ago. Whats funny is they put that play on the cover of SI and you can clearly see 4 players getting held.
Gimme a break. These calls and non calls go both ways fellas. Your flippen center was bobbing his head the whole game, not 1 flag there. Instead there were 3 calls on Hampton for neutral zone infractions? Those were called false starts and the officials missed em. Watch the tape.
There were clearly 2 holds on the Harvin return. The Heath Miller penalty was crap and it had nothing to do with Holmes TD that was taken away unless of course MN defense called on Greenway to cover Holmes. It looked to me like 2 guys colliding within 5 yds. Miller barely took 2 steps.
We get our share of questionable calls too.
hitnbombs28 says:
October 26, 2009 11:27 AM
Most of the people posting on here have no clue when it comes to the rules of the game. The only football most of you have played was a damn video game, Pop Warner dosen’t count.
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How many NFL games have you played in? And if by some chance you have that’s great, but I think I have a better chance at calling your bluff.
Hello, kettle, this is the pot calling.
Bravo NFLJunkie!
Well said.
Like I posted earlier, the Vikings will fail if Mr. Favre has to throw over 50 times in a game.
The Saints are the class of the NFC at the moment.
I think its funny that Vikings fans talk about how Green Bay’s best seasons were in the 90s and 60s…but yet Minnesota has no titles and the fans still talk about them like they are reigning champs….laughable.
@ cfuska- You must know this site has a lot of everything. Good losers and winners and bad ones. From every team. Also offers a forum for grown men to kick some sand around and relieve some stress. Most of it in good fun. I’m sure if the Vikings won in the same defensive fashion you guys did,we would be feeling great. Was a great game and only one can win. The way I look at it,the Steelers knew they were in a hell of a tough game,both teams should be proud. As usual ,the basics like turnovers and penalties usually decide the game. Good win.
Eam147 – it would be helpful if you actually knew history before you trash talked.
And, were you on that 1974-75 Steelers team?
Tundrastruck (Tundrasuck) & eam147 (Ream147)!!!
Stick it!!! Its funny as soon as the Vikes lose your here to jump on it. Thats fine come play off time when you Favre envy Packer team will be sitting at home watching! Oh by the way we are coming to Lambeu where Favre has a high percentage of wins that he’ll add to but with a team that wanted him! VIKINGS SKOL!!!!
“The Steeler D ALSO outscored the “vaunted” Steeler Offense AS WELL.”
Exactly! The Offense couldn’t get on the field because the D kept scoring touchdowns! That’s the headline… Steeler D stops both offenses! Cry all about it!
Reality… two good teams battle it out. Hope they get to play again this Season.
@ NFLJunkie – That”GOD” RB you are talking about as if he sucks is on pace for 1570 yards and 18 td’s. You are a moron!
Could have beat the champs in their house yesterday. We are no good? Once again,thanks for leaving no doubt you are a moron!
Although the refs handed the Steelers a 14 point swing (which ended up being the difference in the game), if Chester Taylor hadn’t dropped the pass, the Vikings still would have likely won.
Vikings outplayed the Steelers most of the game. Unfortunately a bad call and a few unlucky bounces were the difference. That’s football I guess.
Whenever you play the Steelers it seems like you have to play so good as to make such bounces irrelevant to the outcome, because the refs like to ensure they occur.
Now I know what Arizona and Seattle fans feel like.
DemocratsAreStupid says:
October 26, 2009 10:47 AM
It would be nice to see at least one game changing call go AGAINST the steelers, pats or colts. If that ever happens it could put to rest the argument of league favortism.
Here’s one. There are countless others. Picked this one as it involves two of your noted teams.
See Steelers at Colts, 2005 Divisional Playoff game.
Troy makes a 4th Quarter interception that would have virtually sealed a lopsided, 11-point or more, Steelers victory.
The ref however makes an insanely incorrect ruling upon challenge of the play. Colts immediately march in for the score and 2-point conversion, cutting the lead to 21-18.
After the infamous Bettis fumble and Big Ben game-saving tackle, only Vanderjact’s wide right boot keeps game from going to OT (and saving the League from utter shame had the Colts won in OT).
The NFL quickly admits the next day the ref’s ridiculous gaffe in interpreting the rules.
Amazingly, despite nearly being screwed out of the win in Indy, the football world will within weeks therozie that the League wanted the Steelers to win SB XL. They point to several alleged bad calls in the game, only one of which (the block on Hasselbeck after the pick) the League states was incorrect.
I’ve always had trouble figuring that whole scenario out – the League wanted the Colts to beat the Steelers, but then they wanted the Steelers to beat the Seahawks.
Maybe there’s no conspiracy after all?
Think?
That was the true Brett Favre that Packer fans have known for so many years. It’s 4th quarter play like that that makes him worthy of wearing the Purple uniform of a real choke artist! He fits right in!!!
cfuska says:
October 26, 2009 11:47 AM
How many NFL games have you played in? And if by some chance you have that’s great, but I think I have a better chance at calling your bluff.
Hello, kettle, this is the pot calling.
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If you would read my post and try to take it all in you won’t see anywhere that I state that I played in the NFL or at any other level. I don’t have to prove what I’ve done to anybody. But no, i have not played at the highest level of the game.
Back to the original reason for this post. The rules are 99% the same at almost all levels. With the exception of the “don’t hurt the QB rules” and a few other tiny tweaks its the same from HS to the NFL as far as rules. A pick is a pick in HS, CFB or NFL.
So you can take your pot and kettle and fill them with the ignorance spewed by 90% of the posters on this site.
Yeah, to all you haters, it was a good game. I laughed my ass off when Dugan ran over the official on Harvin’s Return TD. CRAZY!
Now for all of the negative sh!t, STFU!
That’s right! The fix has and always will be in for my Steelers! The refs are making calls to ensure my Steelers win every game! It is a fact! Hey, the refs took that TD catch away from Ward last week just to make things look good, to make it look like it is not so one-sided, since the plan was that the Steelers would win the game anyway!! In fact, the only reason the Steelers have not won all 43 super bowls is to make it look semi-legitimate to the general public and the bettors! I already have my super bowl tickets in hand for the next 10 years and the Steelers are scheduled to “win” 7 of those! LOL!!! LMAO!!!
Now, how stupid does that sound? And how stupid do some many posters sound here? Give me a break please! Bad calls go both ways. The bottom line is you have to deal with it. If you don’t want to lose by a bad call, then blow the other team out. The previously unbeaten Vikes did not and could not do that yesterday. Allen came up as small as a peanut? Are you going to tell me the refs let the Steelers hold him all day long? And tell me how the refs caused Favre to throw that last interception to Fox? They blew it, just like Butterfingers Mendenhall fumbled when the Steelers could have completely put the game away.
Again, you don’t want to take a chance on the refs making a bad call, blow the other team out.
And give Ben and the offense a break. Hell Peyton Manning or Tom Brady NEVER had a sub-par game right?? The offense has been carrying the team most of the time this year as the defense has been somewhat soft, so it was appropriate that the defense came up big. I have no problem with that. Of course, I guess it had nothing to do at all with the Vikes pass coverage. I guess they really must stink or something.
In any event, quit crying and complaining. The Steelers won, the Vikes lost.
blah blah blah. I must have missed the part where the refs turned the ball over twice for scores. Just like I missed all the holding on Harvins TD jaunt. Pgh 27, Mn 17. Deal with it
# JimmySmith says: October 26, 2009 8:28 AM
Hey, its well known how I feel about the Vikings but really, the officials in that game should be banned for the rest of the year. It was so bad that it preventing me from gloating about the loss, a feeling that I had been looking forward to all week.
What is it with the Steelers? Can they ever just win a game without the help of the officials? I hope karma jams a couple of heartbreaking losses down their throats and they miss the playoffs.
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JimmySmith, I really don’t know how to respond to something like that, It was honest, truthful and dare I say, respectful of the game of football and the unwritten rules of talking smack. It’s unexpected but appreciated from one fan of the game to another.
@tundrastunk Get over yourself allready, no one ever thought the vikes where going to go undefeated this season, its just not realistic. Yes it was a bad call, but a loss is a loss so you’ve just got to move on from there.
Personally, I’m happy that the first loss of the season came the way it did. it showed the vikes did not get whipped all day, but lost it in a flukey kind of way and it makes you feel like maybe if karma does exsist, that we are even now. Otherwise gary anderson misses a FG in the playoffs.
It was a great game, the steelers are not pushovers, we could have easily won it, but we didn’t. Looking forward to dismantling the pack at lamblow.
Was nice to see a zebra trucked like Dugan did to him. Paybacks a bitch for crappy calls,huh ref?? Was hilarious,I cheered.
Eam147 – it would be helpful if you actually knew history before you trash talked.
And, were you on that 1974-75 Steelers team?
Hey Vikes fans, I got news for you!!!! That was vintage Favre!!! He has the best running back on the planet, but he wants to stroke his ego with 50 passes. When Favre throws 50 times you lucky only 1 int and 1 strip sack look at his history. I see lots of int’s in your future, so hold off on those Super Bowl plans.
Just watched Childress’ press conference. Somewhat confused about him referencing yesterday as “fluke deals” when his team has won two games that way. Also confused about his statement about crossing out 7-0 and writing 6-1. Can someone explain? Dont get me wrong I think he has done a fine job with that franchise but did he have a stroke or something when he was a kid that makes his memory poor and his statements..well…not make sense?
Hey…who’s checking the facts for these articles?
(speaking of Minnesota) “in the hopes of finally getting back to the Super Bowl for the first time in 33 years — and winning it for the first time in 44.”
Last time I checked, the Vikings were 0-4 in Super Bowl appearances…get it right!!!
what an awesome game – it’s rare to see two teams duke it out like that. both teams should be proud of the effort.
the “phantom” penalty (actually there were 2 or 3 on the vikes) was disturbing. but not because i think the refs were trying to favor Pittsburgh. personally i think the league should allow challenges on penalty calls like that. it’s not a matter of questioning the ref’s intent, but hey, they’re trying to watch a lot and are going to make mistakes. i’m sure from the ref’s vantage point it looked like a trip, but if he could have reviewed it from all of the angles we see on television, he’d clearly see what we all saw. with so much on the line for all teams it just seems archaic to not want to get “game-changing” calls like that correct.
hey, we’ve just seen the reffing crew who did the Florida and Georgia games get suspended by the NCAA for making similar phantom calls.
i’m all for keeping the game moving along, but opening the doors for replay (again, not to challenge the ref’s authority but to let them have a better and/or multiple angles) on these types of calls would make a ton of sense.
Don’t forget folks, this was a great game to watch!
I was upset with the officating on both sides of the ball. I do feel as if the Steelers got a break or 2 more but what can you do, you win some you lose some.
This game will go far for the Vikings. I don’t like seeing them lose but this will give them motivation for the year, especially next week against the Pack in fat town.
Vikes 30 Pack 20
Look…there were bad calls both ways. Harvin’s KO TD should have been called back as well, but it wasn’t. The OPI call on Miller that took away a Steelers TD in the first was very ticky tacky as well.
Your HC lost that game for you guys. Anyone who decides not to pound Peterson into the end zone when you have 1st and goal from the 1 deserves to lose.
It’s definitely nice to see some of the Vikes fans giving credit where credit is due. It’s true, the refs have a lot to watch and things get missed and things get seen wrong or whatever we want to call it, but that’s the game. I would be probably be bitchin about certain calls if the Steelers lost, but that’s just human nature. As other people have said though, a bad call didn’t intercept a pass at the end of the game. And a bad call didn’t force a fumble to either Favre or Mendenhall (stupid for leaving his feet at the freaking ten). They were great plays that caused that to happen.
The thing that kills me is these same people who hate against the Steelers just to hate against them. The same ones all the time over and over and their posts just seem to get more idiotic as they go. Hate on though. It’s a free country.
It was a great game to watch and I definitely was holding my breath a couple times but that’s what makes it great. Two teams competed who are both, in my book, deserving of a shot at the Lombardi Trophy this year. Love to see that Super Bowl.
Well, at least we won’t have to worry about the Steeler haters posting BS about why they shouldn’t have won the game next week. We get a week off from that anyway.
The refs are always cheating for the Steelers right?
Lets take a look at a few games and see whose side the refs may have been on?
Week 11 2008 San Diego @ Pittsburgh
We won’t even talk about the touchdown the refs took away from Troy on the fumble recovery. I know many of you will say it didn’t affect the game but point differential could have came into play later in the year. Lets take a look at the penalties. The only game all season long in which one team had 10 or more penalties than their opponent. Does anyone remember Harrison getting held all game long and it not being called.
San Diego 2 penalties for 5 yards
Pittsburgh 13- 115
Wild Card Game against Jacksonville 2007
4th and 2 Garrard has big run. Yes Tyrone Carter misses a tackle. But please look at video this link (38 secs James Harrison gets held)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4MV5gCkQAY
Divisional Playoff at Indy 2005
Troy Polamalu makes a great interception only to have it taken away from him by Pete Morelli and then later corrected by Mike Pereira the call on the field should have stood.
Divisional Playoff @ Tennessee 2003
Joe Nedney misses a 31 yd field goal but Dewayne Washington is called for running into the kicker. Also before the 26 yd attempt of the game winner Jason Gildon attempted to call time out to ice the kicker but the umpire told him that they had no time outs left when in fact they did. After the game Nedney says he might take up acting after drawing the penalty.
And I’m sure people remember Thanksgiving in 98? Phil Luckett gives the ball to the Lions after Bettis called Tails.
I listed 3 big playoff games since Steeler haters say that all the calls go in our favor in big games. Try again.
I’m a Vikings fan, and while I felt the tripping call was a terrible call, I don’t blame the officials for our loss. The fact that that drive ended with a sack/fumble returned for a TD did make that flag even harder to swallow, but the fact is, we allowed the sack/fumble to happen (or to give props where they are due, the Steelers D made a helluva play). We later got a chance to even the score or take the lead, and Chet let the ball go through his hands for an easy Steeler INT. Additionally, we failed to get into the end zone after a 1st and goal at the one (two consecutive pass plays???), and our safeties yet again did a terrible job with (missing) open field tackles – especially late in the 2nd quarter, where we gave up a TD we had no business giving them.
Every team has bad (or missed) calls against them every game. I’m not convinced “it all evens out”, but you need to take advantage of the situations that you do control, and the Vikings simply didn’t do so this past Sunday.
@Florio … Do you rub your hands together and giggle like Peter Lorre before typing that silliness about the Steelers and biased refs? Stirring the pot means extra hits means $$ in the bank for a blog, doesn’t it?
@The Jimmy … simple truth, simply stated.
@Leatherneck … rough day at junior high?
@superfan99 … thanks for your take on the “tripping.” Thought I was the only one who noticed.
@roadkill … Amen.
@mixman34 … yep, the Vikes did a great job dominating the Steeler D on those two TD returns. Good/bad calls affect EVERY team. In SBXXX, the Cowboys scored when refs failed to flag TE Jay Novacek for an illegal pick. Have you heard the Steelers or their fans whining about it? No–because we take heartbreaking losses like adults. It’s called sportsmanship.
@ZNorseman … Once you’ve lost the first post, you should be smart enough from then on to select/copy before hitting submit just in case your post doesn’t go through. Then if there’s a glitch, you just log in, paste your post, and resubmit. But after reading your post–well, losing it would be no loss. I’ve had enough whine today.
@south4bng … He has it right. This will be SB44 so it would be the Vikes first win in 44. (I did a doubletake when I read that, too
@duffsbeer, PervyHarvin, Real-Vikes-Fan, VikingsFan23, Chickenfoot … Thanks for being good sports and much more knowledgeable than some of your whiny, conspiracy-seeking fellow fans. I’ll be rooting for your Vikes at Lambeau. Good luck!
Deadguy says:
October 26, 2009 12:11 PM
“The Steeler D ALSO outscored the “vaunted” Steeler Offense AS WELL.”
Exactly! The Offense couldn’t get on the field because the D kept scoring touchdowns! That’s the headline… Steeler D stops both offenses! Cry all about it!
Reality… two good teams battle it out. Hope they get to play again this Season.
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Steeler 3rd down efficiency: 4 – 12, 33%
Steeler total yards: 259
Steeler Time of Possession: 23:02
Looks to me that the Steeler offense had PLENTY of time on the field…and wasn’t that great. Try using facts next time, moron…instead of keeping your head up your ass.
Not knocking the Steelers, mind you…they played well enough to win. Just keep in mind that so did the Vikings. Either way, neither team is my favorite, so no big deal here. When your Steelers beat the lame ass Patriots in the playoffs, then I’ll give them props. Because when it comes to obnoxious fans, the Pats fans are the most obnoxious, without a doubt.
I love it, Good job Steelers. Punching the Vikings and their Fans straight in the mouth! That should keep Viking Fans from running their mouths. Never seen such a bunch 0f cocky arrogant fans in my life. They have been displaying that all season long.
Ya they may make the play-offs but they wont get past the saints. Lets go Packers!!
Vikes-N-Favre says: October 26, 2009 8:21 AM
Then, the Vikings seemed to take the lead on a 10-yard pass from Favre to, fittingly, Rice. But a phantom tripping call on tight end Jeff Dugan wiped the score off the board.
And it was a horrible call, the kind of call that reinforces the suspicions of those who think that the league wants to see the Steelers win.
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That was it right there. That was arguably the worse call on a team this season. Not only did that prevent the Vikings from taking the lead, it gave the Steelers a even bigger lead. We should be 7-0 and instead the Vikings got screwed.=======================================================
So I guess you didn’t think the bullshit call against Charles Woodson in the end zone (int) when the Packers played the Queens was a “phantom call” also right? That call right there was PURE CRAP!
You Queer fans (er) Queens fans have nothing to cry about, you finally get a call against you and we’re all supposed to feel for you!?!?
Dude, grow a pair and get over it! shit happens!
Its called karma!!! and pay backs a bitch!
See ya this Sunday for your medicine chump!
jorge,
You are such a complete moron. You again bring up the “phantom” pass interference call on Woodson in the Vikings/Packers game.
For one, that wasn’t a phantom call because he hooked Rice. The Dugan call was phantom because there wasn’t any form of contact between Dugans lower leg and the opponents legs. But what makes you a complete and utter tool for bringing it up is that there was also a defensive offsides on the play where Woodson got the pick.
So even if they don’t make the call, the Vikes still have 1st and goal inside the 2 yard line and score on the next play. The PI call has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the game. Yet you morons use it as an excuse even though your team was thoroughly beaten in the game anyways.
Seriously, do you even realize how much of a moron you are? This weekend you’ll get to see how average the Packers are yet again and how good the Vikings are this season.
I was proud of the Steelers defense as a whole. I would have liked to see them get more pressure on Favre, but I think you have to give credit to their O-line.
I understand yanking Mendenhall for the bone-headed leap from the 5 yard line causing the fumble, but that last series you have to let him run the ball over Moore. Rashard was averaging over 6 yards a carry.
Chester Taylor left Favre out to dry on that botched catch – tipped it right to the defensive player. The fumble is on Bret. I put the INT on Chester. Does it matter? Nope – result is still a loss for the Vikes. Just gotta reload & prepare for next week. I hope the Williamses squash Rodgers into the ground, bust a couple of his ribs and do a Gilbert Brown gravedigger celebration over his sorry carcass.
Wow. Steelers fans are really, really insecure about that game.
I like the extremely short historical lists of controversial calls that went against the Steelers.
How would you like to be a Vikings fan, and get the short end for your entire fandom? 1975 NFC Divisional Playoff game anyone? The list is just too long.
Look. The Steelers won. The Vikings have a legitimate beef. The officials are human. Mistakes happen. I think the NFL should apologize to the Vikings.
In any case, it’s over. Move on. If you’re a Steelers fan, be glad you won. I hope you can sleep at night.
@ jorge – lol Brett ” Viking” Favre threw for 334 yards on a big time defense such as Pittsburgh. Favre is the Vikings leader,the rest of the team believe in him and his talents. They never want to let him down. Chester’s eyes said it all yesterday,he thought he let Brett and the Vikings down.
They will not let him down in his return to Green Bay. Mark my words. Favre will throw to Rice and the boys with the same inspiration he did after his father died on MNF. They most likely will call 400+ yards by Brett “revenge.” Keep talkin, be set for embarrassment.
sand0
You’re an idiot, do you even watch football?
How many times in a game does a C.B. do that hook play? Like all day!
You don’t think your team has been getting the benefit of calls all season long?
If you can’t admit that then you’re just as blind as the other Queens fans that come on this site.
Anyhow, this weekend should signal the beginning of the end for you clowns, as Favre begins the Queers earlier than usual meltdown for the season.
Your team usually starts choking by about week 14 yes? You having Brent around means that the slide is probably gonna start a “tad” earlier.
K? Thank You, Come Again.
sand0 says:
October 26, 2009 3:00 PM
jorge,
You are such a complete moron. You again bring up the “phantom” pass interference call on Woodson in the Vikings/Packers game.
For one, that wasn’t a phantom call because he hooked Rice. The Dugan call was phantom because there wasn’t any form of contact between Dugans lower leg and the opponents legs.
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You seriously need to go back and review the play — I did. Dugan slides because he’s beat, and his LEGS, not upper body, are what brings down Harrison. That’s a cake easy call to make — except for the moron FOX announcers.
Again, go watch the tape — see Dugan push out his LEGS to try and stop Harrison. Case closed.
leatherneck says:
October 26, 2009 3:14 PM
Look. The Steelers won. The Vikings have a legitimate beef. The officials are human. Mistakes happen. I think the NFL should apologize to the Vikings.
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Well that’s good enough for me. If leatherneck says, than it shall be. The Vikings have no more legitimate beef than any other losing team in any other game. And yes, I can sleep at night knowing that my team’s defense got the job done and that was how they won. I’m not quite sure how you sleep at night with a mouthful of sour grapes, but keep on hatin. We love idiotic comments like that.
One more thing, what is all this about the team feeling sorry that they let Brett down and that they all believe in him. If I’m not mistaken a few months ago they were talking about how most of their locker was a buzz about how most people wanted either Tavarus Jackson or Sage Rosenfels starting over Favre. Oh how quickly we forget.
how did the vikings totally outplay the steelers? they were losing for almost the entirety of the game. they had a 4 point lead for, what, 5 minutes in the second quarter? yeah, utter domination vikings fans.
CornFlorio says:
October 26, 2009 2:38 PM
Steeler 3rd down efficiency: 4 – 12, 33%
Steeler total yards: 259
Steeler Time of Possession: 23:02
Looks to me that the Steeler offense had PLENTY of time on the field…and wasn’t that great. Try using facts next time, moron…instead of keeping your head up your ass.
Not knocking the Steelers, mind you…they played well enough to win. Just keep in mind that so did the Vikings. Either way, neither team is my favorite, so no big deal here. When your Steelers beat the lame ass Patriots in the playoffs, then I’ll give them props. Because when it comes to obnoxious fans, the Pats fans are the most obnoxious, without a doubt.
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Thanks Fantasy kid…. but your little “stats” sheet doesn’t mean you gots all the “facts”! Try watching the games. Two Defensive scores during the most important time of the game… means the offense was off the field for most of the 4th quarter.
Sure, they could’ve played better, but this week, they didn’t have too.
Now, go figure out who your gonna start next week!
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@leatherneck …
I sleep great. I’m an Alabama fan and a Steelers fan. 12 national championships, 6 Super Bowls. If I have insomnia, I just count trophies.
How was lunch in the jr. high cafeteria today?
EDITORS NOTE ON PERVYHARVINS COMMENT:
@ jorge – lol Brett ” Viking” Favre threw (51 TIMES FOR 6.5 YARDS PER ATTEMPT WITH ZERO TOUCHDOWNS AND 1 INTERCEPTION) for 334 yards on a big time defense such as Pittsburgh. Favre is the Vikings leader,the rest of the team believe in him and his talents. They never want to let him down. Chester’s eyes said it all yesterday,he thought he let Brett and the Vikings down.
This is not just about the Steelers; its Ron Winters and his crew of front runners! This is the same crew that Tom Brady has in his pocket. 4 penalties against the Vikes on that drive folks. They were never going to score! I’m tellin’ ya, this crap stops the moment his crew stops officiating Pats and Steelers games.
@ cfuska – Stick to things you know. Like what happens in Pittsburgh. Not really your fault though. You had to hear all the media generated bs hype about stuff like “schism” and T Jack lovers because Favre stories sell.There never was a split locker room here. And it is true,these guys respect this HOF QB. They know they are better with him. Rice has become a top receiver with him. If you think for one moment that Favre hasn’t inspired these guys to be better and play harder, you are not well informed. Really, why do you care?? To bad Chester muffed it,sure the Favre legend would have grew even larger in the last seconds with a win.
mandykamps says:
October 26, 2009 3:36 PM
how did the vikings totally outplay the steelers? they were losing for almost the entirety of the game. they had a 4 point lead for, what, 5 minutes in the second quarter? yeah, utter domination vikings fans
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Exactly.
Just like crying over Dugan’s penalty. “Cut block” my butt, that’s a leg whip pure and simple.
Kravon, you never answered. Who exactly is your team if you aren’t a Steeler or packer fan?
I bet you haven’t figured out which bandwagon to jump on yet have you?
Asshat
Kravon is one happy Steelers fan this week.
@ kravon – They have computers at the nut house?? I know my tax money is wasted now. 334 yards is 334 yards. Go take the lil yellow pill, nap time. Nurse Ratched is calling.
As usual, it’s time to hand out the cryin’ towels to the losers. Make that poor losers. Yesterday’s game was a great one — good plays and stupid mistakes on both sides — that what makes me sit through four quarters of football.
No one hands the Steelers anything. They earned their six-pack of Super Bowl rings.
I love the Vikings and their rich, storied, history.
to Vikes-N-Farve….
A W is a W whether it’s pretty or not. just look at Dallas. And have you always been a Vikings fan or did you jump on that band wagon when Bret signed on?
@sando …
Hate to interrupt your self-righteous grand-standing but go back and look at the clip (I tried posting the link for you but apparently that’s a no-no since my post didn’t get posted. Shhh–you can find it on the home site of the league.) Dugan’s lower legs definitely do make contact with Harrison’s lower legs. In fact, they knock them right up into the air. Honestly–go check it out. Now I know I’m a moron and a tool for bringing it up, but the eyes don’t lie.
Was it a trip in the Flozell Adams/Three Stooges sense? No. But there was definitely lower-leg to leg trip-up contact.
@GTisMe & sando … Yes, it’s just dreadful how those nasty refs ran back two defensive TDs for scores, missed five tackles on Santonio Holmes, left Mike Wallace uncovered and let him dive untouched into the end zone, and held Peterson to 69 yards. My oh my, such unashamed partisanship. You two should get along with them perfectly.
@GTisMe …
Since you’re posting the same nonsense on both articles, I’ll answer on both. Can’t stand the Pats. But you’re nuts if you think the NFL or either of these teams is buying off an officiating crew. The NFL has been trying to create parity for years and would have LOVED a Cardinals win in SBXLIII. The more teams in the championship mix, the more fans to come out of the woodwork, goofy! The more fans, the more $$$. The NFL is a business. It’s all about $$$.
Do you actually know anything about the game? If you do, then go to the league’s site and watch the video of the tripping. Dugan whips Harrison’s legs with his, causing Harrison’s legs to whirl up in the air. That’s why the ref threw the flag. Moose Johnston may not like it, but that doesn’t make it a (GASP) bad call. Questionable, maybe, but part of some grand conspiracy? Get a grip.
What, are you getting bored with Area 51 and the Grassy Knoll?
PervyHarvin says:
October 26, 2009 3:54 PM
Not really your fault though.
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That’s exactly it. Was I in the locker room when these comments were supposedly being made, no. Are you in the locker now to hear the players say how much they are behind Favre, no. And if you’re going by what they say in press conferences and interviews then it’s no different then saying I’m wrong for listening to the media. Players very rarely discuss what’s really going on in the locker room so as to avoid any problems in the media (barring players like T.O. and Chad Ochocinco).
The fact is no one really knows what is said in the locker room unless you’re there. All we CAN go by is what is said in the media and by the players, so you are right about that. However, if we never listened to what went on in the media and players reactions, then none of us would even be posting on this site or any other. Look at how many comments this story brought just by Florio mentioning the call on Dugan and none of the other calls that were made or not made. That’s all we can go by. We’re not there with the team, that’s why we post here and act like we know what we’re talking about.
So I appreciate what you’re saying, man, but we are all guilty of it.
How come nothing has been mentioned about the cheap shot, and I can’t even remember who it was now, that the one Viking defender tried to put on Ben when he was out of bounds? I mean for Christ’s sake, pick your penalty on that one. Leaving your feet, leading with the helmet, late hit. And that’s great it was called, but no one mentioned how dirty that was.
P.S. If someone did mention it in here, I apologize. I haven’t had time to read every single comment. I’m so glad this story made the top ten commented on though.
Man, quit all the bitching about refs,bad calls, Chilly’s beard and Troy’s hair. The game is over. The Steelers got the W. Does Chester make that catch 99% of the time? Yes. Not yesterday though. Vikes fans, you went toe to toe with the heavyweight champ until the final bell. No shame. Don’t bitch,just let this fight make us better. We seen that we are worthy. I respect the Steelers win. Are they the better team. I wouldn’t say that. Could have went either way. Even Tomlin knew so. Only babies cry. Be men Viking brothers.
Wah… wah… wah! The Steelers also had a crappy penalty call against them earlier in the game that cost them a TD–remember the TD pass to Holmes that was negated by a so-called pick by Heath Miller on a pass defender on the other side of the field?
The difference is that the Steelers reacted to that penalty by actually HOLDING ONTO the ball, even if it meant settling for 3 points instead of 7.
EVERY team in the NFL gets crappy penalties called against them now and then. The difference between winning and losing is how the team deals with it!
“cfuska says:
October 26, 2009 4:40 PM
How come nothing has been mentioned about the cheap shot, and I can’t even remember who it was now, that the one Viking defender tried to put on Ben when he was out of bounds? I mean for Christ’s sake, pick your penalty on that one. Leaving your feet, leading with the helmet, late hit. And that’s great it was called, but no one mentioned how dirty that was.
P.S. If someone did mention it in here, I apologize. I haven’t had time to read every single comment. I’m so glad this story made the top ten commented on though.”
cfuska, speaking as a Vikes fan, yeah, that was dumb, and I hope he’s fined as a result. I think it was Benny Sapp, if I remember correctly.
Overall, helluva game, even if I didn’t like the ending. Sucks you guys got Tomlin from us. If nothing else, he looks bad ass in his cop shades. Like Shaft’s boy playing HC.
In any case, I wish we could play this one again. I feel like we win this thing 8 out of 10 times….granted, I am very biased.
Hats off to the Steelers for a hard fought win.
Thanks for being a man PervyHarvin.
Hey Kravon: Rich and storied history???? You got to be kidding me. Your 0-4 in Super Bowls and not even sniffed a SB in over three decades. That sounds like history that should be forgotten. You may get lucky and be able to add to your rich and storied history though. I sure you hoopleheads would like one for the thumb!!!!!!!
84 more comments and the Vikes and Steelers are the SuperBowl of arguing champs! LOL
Oops–meant to post that last one to GtisMe on the other article. Slogging through all the tears and conspiracy theories today has taken its toll.
Pervy – Amen. No looking back. Vikes should work on the mistakes & focus on the next opponent. We can’t just bellyache about the blown calls, missed catches, blah, blah, blah…..
Steelers (& their fans) can celebrate the win. On to Green Bay & their turnstyle O-line. I am predicting +5 sacks by the Vikes, at least 2 fumbles caused by J. Allen, 2 AP TDs, 150+ for Rice, and 1 A. Rodge concussion by the end of the day. Brown County sheriff’s office should be busy that night with all the domestic calls when the Packer fanbase melts down after a whooping from their prodigal son et al.
Pitt is the defending SB champs, their fans have the right to talk smack. But that still doesn’t change the fact that the only reason they won the game yesterday is because the Refs gave it to them.
@ Duderino – LOL That domestic call quote killed me. Good one! I think we will crush them indeed.
PervyHarvin says:
October 26, 2009 5:11 PM
84 more comments and the Vikes and Steelers are the SuperBowl of arguing champs! LOL
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Can the Vikings lose that one too?
Cmon. You knew it was coming.
Adam -Chris – not bad.Not bad. lol Those old losses don’t even bother me.Ancient history.
Fan of Football says:
October 26, 2009 5:49 PM
Pitt is the defending SB champs, their fans have the right to talk smack. But that still doesn’t change the fact that the only reason they won the game yesterday is because the Refs gave it to them.
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I’ll be waiting for chickenshit to rear his ugly head and call you out for saying the Vikings “had their foot on gool”.
Kravon is and has always been a Steelers fan. The comment regarding the Vikings rich and storied history was a slight against them.
This really is a one-sided argument.
Its easy to see how much class you cheeseheads! NONE! Thats also as many times as you’ll beat the vikes this year! That was the best game of the weekend, hands down. The tripping call is questionable, but that’s football. You can point out plays throughout the game that could have been a game changer if it weren’t for a poor call, or poor execution. You can also tell a wisconsin homer when you read that rogers is the best in the league and is far better than Favre, you must be high! Your team did work against the browns, congrats. If you don’t think the vikings won’t take this week 7 loss out on you next week you better think again. Rogers got to where he is because of Farve, and it was only few short years ago all you cheeseheads were balls deep in favre’s ass, its funny how things change. So get excited, welcome Favre back however you want, the fact is that by the fourth quarter next week, Lambaugh field will be one of the quietest stadiums as the cheeseheads file out early with their tails between their legs! Have fun watching us run over the NFC north and everyone else on our way to the Super Bowl, which I hope is against the steelers. It doesn’t get much better than that! Just for the record Favre and rogers are pretty even, look at the stats! All Favre does is win games!
Make no mistake the Steelers have flaws, particularly on defense.
I respect fans of all NFL teams, but I will not tolerate excuse makers. Excuses simply grow old and tired on me too quickly.
@Fan of Football …
Like I said, it is terrible to watch biased refs run back two defensive TDs for scores, miss five tackles on one Santonio Holmes reception run, leave Mike Wallace uncovered and let him dive untouched into the end zone, and hold Peterson to 69 yards. The NFL should do something.
If you’re a football fan, albeit not a knowledgeable one, I’m sure you can find your way to the league’s site to watch the replay of Dugan whipping Harrison’s legs out from under him, causing Harrison’s to fly up in the air. That’s what drew the flag for tripping. Keep trying–it’s a complicated game, but you’ll get the hang of it eventually.
And thanks ever so much for your permission to talk smack.
@ kravon – Did you party with Donnell Woolford? He said it was all your fault.
why didn’t Florio write about Chili cross dressing as a flight attendant on the way to Pittsburgh , yes , Pittsburgh fans that is a true story ….and this guy is allowed in the nfl as a head coach ?? this man needs some serious help ….. probably Zygi’s fantasy and they are now members of the mile high club after the flight to Pittsburgh
funny the Minnesota fans don’t bring up the Harvin play against Baltimore in the end zone where he runs the “pick” on the Baltimore db …..Harvin only runs straight into him and knocks the db down that was covering the guy(Rice , i believe) who catches a touchdown pass ….no penalty called….clearly a pick and stated by the broadcasters as a pick….the play resulted in a touchdown and was against the defender who had coverage on the receiver who scored , UN-LIKE the Pittsburgh call where the pick on the db wasn’t even on the same side of the field as the touchdown pass took place…… Vikings fans you can’t have it both ways where you say it is illegal one week but the week before it’s ok
@ blitzed – Don’t be hating on Chilly now. The guy has a sense of humor. Drinks large glasses of vodka. Has a black belt in KickSumAzz. Don’t mess with our coach douche! He taught Tomlin many things grasshopper.
@PervyHarvin …
That may be–but I’m glad he didn’t teach grasshopper how to dress for a flight.
This was probably the most hilarious thread that I have ever read. Especially the comments from the envious Steeler haters. You losers are too pathetic to even waste time on teasing your sorry asses. Besides, most of you aren’t smart enough to know when your legs are being pulled out of joint.
Having followed my Steelers since the ’50′s, I can identify with how losers feel. Then came the ’70′s, Mean Joe, Terry B., Franco and the DYNASTY!!
Most of you weren’t alive when the Steel Curtain won SBIX by crushing the Fran Tarkenton and your Purple People Eaters. Tark (11 for 26) was running for his life most of the game as the Vikes had 119 yds. of total offense and 17 (seventeen) yds. rushing. That SC defense set the standard for all future Steeler teams and any other NFL teams that wanted to be winners.
What those that were fortunate enough to see the game on Sunday was the Steeler D taking the game away from the Vikes. The “cut” block by Dugan might have been legal before the ’90′s, but in today’s game, it is the intent to use the legs that is penalized. If you don’t know the rules, you must resist the urge to cry about penalty flags if you do not like to be called a dumbass.
lol… So the Steelers won a game in which they were outplayed at home. So what… it happens.
The Vikings blew the game, but the only thing that bothers me is how the Steeler defense is credited with 2 big TD plays. The first is questionable as to whether or not the play should have ever even taken place (penalty on previous play), and the second was a gift by the Vikings on which the Steelers did nothing but have a ball drop right in their hands (yet it’s somehow a great defensive play by them… lol… okay).
@ Deb – lol Chilly is the most understood guy in football. Easy to see him as an uptight tool,but he really is funny and does that shit to relax his troops. I grew to like him,even though I don’t like throwing on the Steelers 1 when AD is ready to roll!! He needs some play calling adjustment at times.
I have commented on this phenomenon before. What actually causes this infantile whining about unfair refs is really a result of the unfortunate coupling of unsophisticated and easily influenced fans (read: Seahawks, Cardinals, Vikings) and stridently anti-Steeler commentary from color commentators (read: Madden, Johnston/Siragusa).
What amounted to nothing more than a routine close call was for some reason siezed upon by opportunistic Steeler haters as a chance to ride their anti-Steeler hobby horse and the clueless sheeple buy it.
There are a lot of close plays in every game. Get real folks – just because some knucklehead in the booth makes a big deal about it doesn’t mean a freaking thing. Think for yourselves for once.
27-17 Final. Give the Steelers the 7 for the td the refs stole in the first and give the vikings 14 for the one the refs stole in the fourth. Had the refs given the vikings that touchdown, the vikings wouldn’t have been in position to fumble the ball three plays later. Thats a 14 point swing. Take another 7 away from the steelers, because with a late lead in the fourth the vikings may be in a position to run the clock out rather than score. Sounds like the refs had far, far too much to do with the outcome of this game. And for those of you who don’t believe in the Steeler conspiracy, look at the illicit gambling holdings of the Steeler’s ownership.
People are pathetic.
Anytime “their” team loses, it has to be a conspiracy. I wonder if Raider fans think like that too?
And this idiot Q1ller who seems to think those defensive plays weren’t “great”….exactly what has to happen for a defensive play to be great in your considered opinion? Does the interception have to be made while blindfolded and doing a reading from MacBeth?
Watch the replay of either one of those returns and if you can pull your head out of your ass long enough, what you’ll see (assuming you know anything about football) is a minimum of 5 defensive players down field throwing LEGAL blocks for the ball carrier. That’s why the plays went all the way back, not because of referee conspiracies or any other crap like that. I wonder how many lazy offensive players they passed to get there?
It’s called hustle and that’s why they are a terrific defense making terrific game winning plays.
roadkill says:
We have the Seattle Seahawks, the Baltimore Seahawks, the Arizona Seahawks, and now the Minnesota Seahawks. No one will ever match the whining capacity of the original Seattle product though.
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Like most Steeler fans, you just aren’t smart enough to see why on earth people would be upset when you BUY A SUPERBOWL that they otherwise would have won.
That said, people should know by now to gameplan for the refs when you play in Pittsburgh. Childress was clearly too busy getting his flight attendant costume together, so he didn’t, and he lost. It’s that simple.
per the dugan call.
The referee throws the flag on this play. He is at least 20 yds away from the play. It is actually the umpires call. Yet the umpire did not throw a flag. To further complicate the referees field of vision, he is standing in the sun and phil loadholt (6-8 345lbs) is in his line of sight and the play happens on the opposite side of the field in the shade.
Yes, I’m sure the referee saw this play clearly, NOT!
I dont see the Vikings winning this week.
Aaron Rodgers should really be looking forward to playing them without Winfield.
Additionally Tony Siragusa needs to be banned from Heinz Field. I pray he is not there for the Packers/Steelers game on 12/20.0
Kravon:
The last time the Vikes played them he was sacked EIGHT times!! That’s just sacks.
Their line hasn’t improved, regardless of the browns not getting a sack.
Yes Winfield not playing hurts, but Big Ben, didn’t seem to have a whole lot of success, did he?
Vikes fans:
Quit whining about the refs, it’s Tuesday.
The game is over, it was a blessing in disguise to lose to the Steelers, they weren’t winning them all anyway. I’d rather go into Lambeau pissed about a disappointing loss, than riding high and being set up for a let down.
This loss should bring the Vikes back down to earth.
To the posters about Chilly dressing as a woman, yeah, I’m sure that’s a sign of trouble……uff.
Every year on Halloween, I see large Wisconsin men dressed as women and they think it’s the height of hilarity, how is this different?
Speaking of which, doesn’t Ted Thompson masquerade as a GM 365 days a year?
@ kravon – Aaron Rodgers will be running for his life! And as far as being without Winfield, thought Ben would be looking forward to that also. We did pretty good. Asher Allen,our rookie,is going to come on strong. He defended the best of the SEC, great draft pick.
Chickenfoot – hey there sunshine!
Final score I believe was 27-20?? A closer game than perhaps you would like to admit. Ill take the Pack -3 this week.
No Ben did not. Im not sure how many times Roethlisberger threw to that side of the field.
dezilla123 says:
October 26, 2009 6:56 PM
Its easy to see how much class you cheeseheads! NONE!
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It’s easy to see how much intelligence you Queens!
NONE!
Masqurading as a GM? You don’t think he is qualified? Profitable team with cash reserves. 4-2 which is pretty good thus far this year. Seems to be doing just fine. Maybe you see things differently then I do.
Supersuckers says:
Masqurading as a GM? You don’t think he is qualified?
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I’m pretty sure you’re one of three people in the world that still think he IS qualified, and that includes Thompson himself.
They don’t give awards for cap space, and they sure don’t give them for roster youth. When we win some games, THEN we’ll be “doing just fine”.
That’s why this Sunday’s a win-win scenario for us. I can’t wait…
Kravon, obviously you didn’t watch the game.
30-14 with 7 minutes left. Soft zone the rest of the way out. Hate that defense….same defense that let the Steelers score right before the half by the way.
Super:
Again? Really?!
Oh yeah, the juggernaut is on track now that you beat a Lions team with how many starters missing? And a Browns team that had more sick people than when Shakey’s used to use dog food for sausage?
The team that still hasn’t come up with an answer for the OL?
Prepare to be exposed again in a nationally televised game, twice in 1 year, that’s gotta leave a mark.
Well again I can’t see the future so I will not prepare to be exposed to anything except myself in a dimly lit room with lotion and a tubesock. We definitely see things differently. Thats ok though. The answer for the OLine is to get better. period. this isnt a video game or fantasy football. It is possible for the same group that Minnesota admittidly torched a few weeks back to get better. Study film etc etc.
I remember betting on the Vikings and over, so thats all I cared about during that contest.
We all are intelligent enough to know when NFL teams play the second of consecutive road games the home team holds a considerable advantage.
Packers 37 – Vikings 30
Beer Cheese,
I like you so I am going to take a few minutes to explain what a GM’s job is. First and foremost if you recall Mike Sherman was fired as General Manager of the Green Bay Packers coming off a division title. In fact the teams record with Mr. Sherman as GM was 44-20. Now I know you would agree that would constitute “winning some games” correct? Now a GM is not only responsible for football operations Beer Cheese it is also responsible for the financial health of the franchise. Mr Sherman neglected that side and put the Packers WAY over the cap and their balance sheet at the end of their fiscal year was in the red. THAT was why he was fired from that position. Thompson has the Packers in a state of viability in this tough economic condition. he was voted NFL executive of the year in 2007 by his peers. Now wouldnt you agree that means something vs. nobody fans like ourselves and some of our for lack of a better word stupid opinions?? he has put the packers in a position to be competitive for years. not one or two but 10 or more due to their financial health and building the roster through youth. Could he spend dumb money on big time free agents? Sure. But in the long run it kills your team as we all saw with Sherman. The GM handles hiring and firing of admin staff, negotiating salaries with said staff. Its not just player acquisistion is what I am saying. Now, that said, if he were to have another losing season this year he may be in trouble. But I believe and its only my opinion of course that he has built a solid team that will be a winner this year and for amny years to come. So i would say you may want to start to learn to like him and appreciate what he has done. His peers sure do. And their opinion means something.
Suckers-
Executive of the Year in 07… You wouldn’t be referring to the same 2007 where he posted his one and only winning record, would you?
There are accountants to run the numbers. A GM’s job is to field a winning team and a solid coaching staff. I have never said we need to load up on FA’s like the Vikings or Redskins. I just said maybe a couple, occasionally, would help. If we only are a couple O-Linemen away from being competitive right now, and I certainly think we are, then a good GM would have known that and done something about it.
There’s clearly no way to convince you that Thompson isn’t god, so I’ll prolong my impending carpal tunnel for now. It’s win-win this weekend, and I’ll just bank on that.
Supersuckers – Sounds like you could be a better GM! Go for it dude, most hate Thompson.
Oh no. I definitley could not be a better GM then Thompson. I dont question too many decision by my teams people. If I was qualified to be a GM believe me I would be. I am not qualified. Just like you all are not qualified to judge who is a good GM and who isnt.
@PervyHarvin …
I was surprised by some of the people posting that Chilly needs psychiatric help because of his cross-dressing on the plane. Obviously it was a joke. Sounds like the guy is hilarious. And as for his coaching skills–you can’t argue with success. But I do wish I could get the picture out of my mind of him in a flight attendant’s outfit saying “I’m Chilly, Fly me.” My mental image is a little … Norman Bates
Frank Burns says:
October 26, 2009 11:05 AM
Vikings fans were beating their chests after winning on a Hail Mary against San Fran, and a missed, completely makeable FG vs. Baltimore.
Now they want to claim the bad breaks excuse for losing. Hmmm.
Give ME a break.
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i suppose that 13-10 win of the stellar titans proves just how potent the steelers are? right.
@psuckonthis …
Well, you can see the play clearly if you’ll go to the league’s Web site and watch the game highlights. Then you will see Dugan leg-whip Harrison, which is against the rules. I’m sorry you don’t think the rules should be applied to your team, but you wouldn’t want people to accuse the refs of favoritism, would you?
Frank Burns says:
October 26, 2009 11:05 AM
Vikings fans were beating their chests after winning on a Hail Mary against San Fran, and a missed, completely makeable FG vs. Baltimore.
Now they want to claim the bad breaks excuse for losing. Hmmm.
Give ME a break.
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or give it up to the bears and bengals in 4th quarter breaks downs just shouts world champions. get over yourself.
Percy,
Most that hate Thompson do not know what they are talking about or even what his job entails. Hate is a strong word.
Free agency is football. TT apparently didn’t get the memo. Very few teams in recent history have been successful by just developing folks within the organization. You have to go out and find the best talent available to win TODAY, not just plan/hope/pray that a bunch of 22 year olds will pan out some day. Woodson are Grant are probably Ted’s best acquisitions to date. Their draft picks have generally been garbage too – either injured or don’t live up to expectations. Ted is nowhere near the caliber of the best Packer GM in the Free Agency era, Ron Wolf, who brought in Reggie White, Sean Jones, Mike Holmgren, Bret Favre, Santana Dotson, Gilbert Brown, & Desmond Howard. They went to 2 Superbowls. How many has TT taken the Pack to?……….. This is the NFL, not MLB – no farm teams, no developmental leagues. Win now, or get the hell out of the way – that’s the NFL.
@Wills1235 & Q1ller …
You know, since I’ve been on PFT, I’ve been amazed at some fans’ depth of football knowledge and floored by some fans’ complete ignorance of the game. You two floor me.
If you understood the game, Wills1235, you’d know the refs didn’t “stole” a touchdown. That was a pretty obvious leg whip. Moose Johnston may not think so, but the other commentators agreed with the call. The post above yours called it. Whining about officiating is infantile.
And Q1ller, just what do you think good defenders do? They force turnovers by pressuring the offense. Then, having forced the turnovers, the Steelers–particularly on the Woodley runback–created a wall of blockers around the man with the ball, ensuring his ability to get into the end zone. That’s the same thing they did with Harrison in the Super Bowl. These aren’t the fastest runners on defense. They scored because their teammates’ heads-up play made it possible for them to score. That’s what made them great defensive plays. The unit pressured the offense, caused a turnover, recovered the turnover, and followed through to capitalize on the turnover. Defense 101.
If you still don’t believe that Pittsburgh has a 12th man in stripes, check this blurb out from the Star Tribune…
Eric Frampton said he isn’t sure why Pittsburgh’s Nick Eason ripped off Frampton’s helmet and threw it about 10 feet after the two got tangled in a pile on a kickoff return. Eason was not penalized.
“I ran in there and he just jumped on me and ripped my helmet off,” Frampton said. “It was a regular tackle but then after [it] for some strange reason the ref told me, ‘Go to the sideline and tell your coach that you threw your own helmet off.’ And I go, ‘But I didn’t throw my own helmet off.’ I just kind of jogged off. It was a little bit weird.”
I’m pretty sure that throwing someone’s helmet is a personal foul, so why no flag, and why tell a player to lie and blatantly ignore such a thing?
@paranoidandroid …
I think the difference is that the Steelers fans didn’t whine and claim foul play after those losses. You have a good team, and personally, I hope they clobber the Pack next week, win their division, and make a great playoff run. But, like it or not, the replays show they lost this game fair and square and their fans should take it with the same dignity and sportsmanship their Hall of Fame quarterback showed in his post-game press conference.
Pervy-Just in case we haven’t broke the record yet I’ll chime in here. Beer Cheese & Supersuckers are debating an issue where either one could be correct and the future determines the outcome. For the record I am not a big Fan of TT and CURRENTLY feel all he has really accomplished is getting us out of salary cap hell.
Last year we had two glaring deficiencies (and a lot of other little ones). O-Line & Defense. A packer fan on another blog put this thought in my mind & it makes sense. It appears that the Packer’s FO decided to make defense a priority in the off season–Dom Capers, 3-4, Clay Matthews, Raji, etc. and hope the O-line would improve although they did get Barbre (which so far hasn’t meant much). IMHO there is definite improvement on the defense, Matthews is working out really well, and we get better each week. (I know Chickenfoot–Lions & Browns–big deal)–we’ll learn a lot more this Sunday about how the project is working.
It’s obvious that the O-line didn’t really improve and relying on Tauscher & Clifton is just putting fingers in the dyke and this I think is TT’s weak point. His ego. In the past I have thought that he felt himself incapable of making a mistake. I will say that with them finally benching Poppinga (whom I have always felt had incriminating pictures of MM or TT or both) I am hoping I judged TT to harshly.
We do have a young team but I have been concerned about some of their abilities. Hawk comes to mind first thing. It does appear he is actually starting to improve. I’d like to see more out of Raji.
I think the TT project has about one more year to come to fruition. I can’t say I agree with his FA philosophy but I’m also glad to we didn’t drop 100 mil on Haynesworth. Totally dumb. I’m still not convinced of his ability to scout real NFL talent from college ranks but I’ll have to say this was one of his better drafts. He needs to really score some O-line help one way or the other and he also needs to be concerned about Harris’ & Woodson’s age. Lot’s of things on his plate–but that is his job.
Bottom line–I’m still not convinced he is the guy-but I’m less sure of it than I was last year.
This coming Sunday should be interresting to say the least. Sorry about the discertation.
Suckers-
The carpal tunnel thing was a joke. Sad that I have to explain that.
I said I wasn’t going to do this, but I can’t seem to let it go. Here goes. I’m aware of Thompson’s financial prowess, it’s the only conceivable reason he still has a job. I’m also aware that he hires the accountants, coaches etc. He seems to have done those things fairly well, no complaints there.
HOWEVER, during his tenure, he also turned a perennial playoff contender into a laughingstock, helped create not one, but two major nationwide media circuses, drafted the single worst bust of the decade (and two others who have earned honorable mention on that list), cut numerous valuable veteran players just to replace them with “his guys”, then brought two of them back in complete desperation (Tauscher?? I like him too, but is that the best you can come up with?) handcuffed a capable coach by forcing him to start rookie 5th rounders rather than do what was necessary to obtain proven, reliable talent, and worst of all, split what was once the greatest fanbase in the league right in half (look no further than our current argument for proof of that).
Any one of the things I mentioned is the hallmark of a GM in over his head. Any two should be grounds for dismissal. “The proof is in the pudding”, Thompson must go.
Also, for the record, I am fairly confident I’ve lived long enough to not have you refer to me as “son”. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
Beer Cheese,
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt when asking you to explain your “win win” point. But I am pretty sure I know what you mean. To even consider losing a very important football game to be a “win” because of your blind dislike of Packer management (dislike based upon no merit or qualification of judgement by yourself) makes you a non packer fan. Period. I am embarrased for you.
@Supersuckers – Sure I’m qualified to judge GM’s. It’s my right as a PFT poster to know everything I think I know!! LOL
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@ Deb- Now that you put it that way(Norman Bates) does sound very creepy! lol “I’m Chilly,Fly me!” also creates vomit inducing images best left for late night Cinemax. All I can say Deb is that Chilly must have sensed how big it is to go to the champs and play them. Wanted to give the guys some comic relief. Maybe he will dress up as Octo Mom for the Packers.
i don’t really care about the calls for either team sunday. it happens. it was a great game to watch and i certainly look forward to favre ripping apart the packer secondary again.
7-1 will look nice compared to the 5-3 record of the steelers. thats right, i’m sayin the broncos will get the win.
question: if the steelers are so good how come they could only put up 13 on the titans? it would take them 4 games to equal what the patriots did in one half.
answer: because they’re not. they haven’t shown anyone anything. they barely beat the titans and lions, two of the worst teams.
and that steeler defense….week after week they get shredded. they haven’t held an opponent under 10 points all year. frankly they’re lucky to be above .500. so glad they gave harrison a huge contract because he’s totally playing up to his potential now.
steelers prediction: 9-7 won’t be good enough to make the playoffs and the fans will cry so loudly i’ll be able to hear it in Texas. go longhorns!
Vikes in free angency:
Berrian, Leber, M.Williams,Winfield, Hutchinson,
C.Taylor and Favre.
Allen in a trade.
All starters except CT who is a valuable 3rd doen back.
14 homegrown starters sprinkled with solid to Pro bowl caliber players.
That is how to build a team.
Not being so arrogant to think that you want to do it with your own players.
The Vikes built their team like Wolf did.
They way TT is doing it, if you don’t hit on a majority of the picks, which is painfully obvious , he hasn’t, will breed 6-10 to 9-7 teams every year.
The fact that he didn’t identify the Ol as a week spot 3 years ago, and has done zilch to fix it speaks volumes.
Not finding anyone on the open market now is not the issue, he’s had 3 years to fix it and hasn’t.
The Pack is paying for his shortsightedness now.
I don’t claim to be a GM, but isn’t identifying weak spots on your team and filling them a GMS job?
Confidence in yourself and your “talent” is one thing, but arrogance, that your way is the only way, is a sure ticket to unemployment.
I for one hope he stays forever!
@Majik Man …
And we take this as gospel because Frampton says so? What did the official say? What did Eason say? I’M absolutely sure that in journalism school they teach reporters to confirm stories like that by doublechecking the info with EVERYONE involved, which clearly DIDN’T happen with this item. This sounds like a Page Six gossip blurb with no corroboration. And it ran in the Vikes hometown paper. Imagine that. (The Star-Tribune has fallen far. Too bad.)
I remember that play. There’s no way the official could have seen what actually happened in that pileup. Frampton may have said, “He pulled off my helmet,” but how could the official flag it if he didn’t see it. During the Saints/Dolphins game, a Saints player deliberately took a cheap shot at Joey Porter. We all saw it on the replay, but the official didn’t see it. He only saw Porter’s reaction, so it was Porter who drew the flag and the 15-yard penalty. Porter could have said, “But, ref, he hit me first.” Was the ref going to just take his word for it and throw the flag at New Orleans instead? No. Does that mean New Orleans has the officials in their pockets? No.
IF the ref told Frampton anything of the kind, which I doubt, it was probably to shut him up and get him off the field so play could resume. Can you imagine how much whining the refs hear on the field during the course of a game? And if the Vikes players are anything like their fans, heaven help the refs with them.
Paranoidadndroid – I am sorry you hate the Steelers so much. I hope the Longhorns give you peace in your life.
Supersuckers says:
Beer Cheese,
To even consider losing a very important football game to be a “win” because of your blind dislike of Packer management (dislike based upon no merit or qualification of judgement by yourself) makes you a non packer fan. Period. I am embarrased for you.
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You DARE question my fanhood?! You think I WANT to lose this game?? HELL NO.
I swear, I would love nothing more in this life than to completely embarrass and blow out the overrated Vikings fit to make Favre cry (again), and actually stay retired this time.
We’d be frontrunners in the division… We’d be in the driver’s seat, all set up to make a playoff run… This site would be so much civilized with less than 1/3rd of the current Viking fans that post here remaining, we’d finally get some respect and maybe start to come together, once again, as proud Packer fans, rather than be fighting amongst ourselves AND with our rivals.
Do I think that likely? Maybe.. More than I did a few weeks ago at least. All Lions and Browns talk aside, without a doubt our line has improved at least slightly by leaving Spitz and Colledge where they belong and letting a tackle, albeit a rookie one, play tackle. Add that to the undisputed best homefield advantage in football and the fact that Rodgers and the rest of the team wants this win more than any game in the last two years, and I’d say we have a pretty decent shot.
ALL the win-win thing meant was that IF we do lose this game, and I’ll be the first in line to cry in a beer if we do, then there’s at least a tiny silver lining. I NEVER said, or even implied, I want to lose this game. I hate Thompson. I know hate is a strong word, but it applies. I want him gone, but NOT at the expense of losing this game and becoming the laughingstock of the North. That’s simply too steep a price to pay.
Now you can say what you will about my qualifications, but hating Thompson and loving the Packers are not mutually exclusive, as all three of you Thompson lovers would have us believe. I’m a fan first, no matter what, and fans ALWAYS want their team to win.
wow man…seeing some of these posts is just disheartening. I was impressed by the Vikings fans leading up to the game last week. And now this week….after we won….pretty much a game that we were supposed to win, they are all a joke. There a few that are still keeping it real, but these Vikings fans whining…all the while accusing Steelers fans of whining…LMAO. You got beat, and I pray to god we play again in February b/c you’ll get beat again. You heard it hear first. Yes I said it, if both teams are fortunate enough to make it that far Pittsburgh wins again.
We only scored 13 on the Titans….and I guess we “barely” (LOL) beat the Lions. Vikings needed a hail-mary highlight catch to beat the 49ers (props where it’s due, nice catch nice throw), and a fluke missed field goal to beat the Ravens after a 4th QTR collapse that the idiots here seem to keep mentioning about the Steelers. WOW….Vikings fans are a bunch of hypocrites, I never thought I’d say this but I’m starting to feel bad for Packers fans HAHA.
Anyone who knows even a litte about football, and has watched any other Steeler game other than the one when their team played them knows that their offensive play calling from Bruce Arians is downright insulting at times. If I was a defensive coordinator I would LOVE to call a game against Arians. It would be like playing Madden.
A team is a team, from the top down to the bottom, but Bruce Arians is the achilles heel of Pittsburgh this year.
@ footballrulz -Good take. Can’t wait for Sunday ! You Pack fans are way more enlightened than myself when it comes to all things Ted Thompson. All I know is big time draft picks or free agents are not showing up in WI. Beyond that, I’ll let you guys duke that one out!! LOL
Suckers-
Your boy Chickenfoot hit it on the head. A GM’s job is to identify weak spots on your team and fill them. Thompson has failed mightily in that regard, whether you admit it or not (which goes back to the ignoring basic facts statement made elsewhere).
I couldn’t agree more on the “those that split were never fans”. There are Packer fans and there are Favre fans. I am not a Favre fan. I always saw him as a spoiled, egotistical punk, even as a Packer. (I didn’t mind the wins though). Trading him was one of the few Thompson moves I agree with.
However, the fan base remains split to this day, and thanks to Favre making an ass of himself and publicly taking a dump on his legacy, it’s no longer about him. It’s about whether Thompson has put this team in a position to win or not. You clearly think he has, I think he hasn’t. I’d LOVE to be wrong though. Sunday’s game should put the argument to rest. Until then, I’m all for agreeing to disagree. We have Viking fans to fight with all week, we’re wasting time arguing amongst ourselves.
Also, AGAIN, unless you were in your 30′s when the Ice Bowl was played, you’re not old enough to call me “son”, and I’ll thank you to knock it off.
Beer Cheese,
You said win win as in equal either way. Now I understand its not equal by your last defensive post. But you cant have it both ways. Thompson is a packer. You state you want the Packers to win. but also state you want thompson gone. That cannot happen unless he were to pass away. Please explain….
Beer Cheese Soup -
Thanks for the comment son!
@Kravon …
I think paranoidandroid will be disappointed all the way around. Roll Tide!!!!!!!!
Super:
Mark my words, Driver , Barnett, Clifton, and very possibly Harris are gone after this year.
He did the exact same thing in Seattle and it took Ruskell to come in and rebuild that team into a Super bowl team.
He did that by signing key free agents and drafting well, 2 things TT is not proficient at.
He has some good picks, but is very hit and miss.
I also have to note, that you claim you can’t see into the future as far as wins and losses, yet you proclaim that you are “set at” QB for the next 10-12 years. Please provide tangible proof of that.
I guess you must be firing up the flux capacitor?
kravon says:
October 27, 2009 1:32 PM
Paranoidadndroid – I am sorry you hate the Steelers so much. I hope the Longhorns give you peace in your life.
Beer Cheese,
Chickenfoot’s team is surely not without weaknesses. All teams have weaknesses. Our’s happens to be the Oline. Minnesota’s? most would agree the secondary. their pass protection isn’t A caliber either in my opinion. Thompson hasnt failed mightly at anything. That’s just more nonsense. It is ok to disagree. But to have a hatred for management when you yourself (as do I) do not know what goes on internally or really what we are talking about and thinking WE might know what’s better for our team is silly. It’s beyond silly.
Son, (Beer Cheese)
Yes we have better things to argue about then with each other.
Duderino,
It took 5 years for Wolf to get them to a Super Bowl. 6 if you count 1991 when he was hired. Thompson and McCarthy are on year 4.
@ Vox’s Mommy – LOL I knew you some smack talk hiding some where! I’m not one of the conspiracy guys,you won a game that was decided in the last minute Sunday. A win is a win.I do agree that Arians is a little slow,as in duh. Why the hell didn’t he run a no huddle O at us? Our hurry up d isn’t the best. Oh well,glad he didn’t lol
Now,back to the if we happen to meet you in Miami take. Pitt wins again. Well,that should be what you think . You are a passionate Steeler fan. If we get to Miami,trust me,it is the Steelers I want to play!
Be a change this time though. Percy will run 2 back to the adoring Florida fans that love him. Brett will go out on top with a 134 qb rating and 2 tds. And like a nightmare Miami episode of Dexter, AD will mow the steel curtain down quicker than Trinity did Agent Lundy. Big Ben will look like a Dexter shrink wrap job after our d smothers him with pressure. Vikes win 38-24
This post should be good for another 100 mob hits Florio !!! lol
Chicken,
im not providing the proof of that. Rodgers does every Sunday.
Why would those guys be gone?
Deb
You must be right, Frampton made that whole story up, because he had so much to gain by doing so. And since there was no flag thrown by the non biased Pittsburgh officials, it couldn’t possibly have happened. If a ref wanted a player to get off the field, he wouldn’t tell the player to go lie to his coach, he would simply tell the player to get off the field.
Also, in journalism school, they teach you that if you receive a direct quote from someone, you can print it, and there is no need to “double-check with EVERYONE”, because you are simply printing what someone said. They also teach this to you in any high school speech or creative writing classes, but it just comes as common sense to most people.
Rebuild Seattle? They were a super bowl team that Thompson built!??
Thompson is on year 5, Superfan. Try to keep up.
Wasnt this topic Steelers and Vikings aftermath?
Deb says:
October 27, 2009 2:00 PM
@Kravon …
I think paranoidandroid will be disappointed all the way around. Roll Tide!!!!!!!!
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we beat OU, thats all i care about. F OU!
i still think the steelers won’t make the playoffs
@Vox’s Mommy …
My brother suggested that if the Steelers can repeat, one of the clueless owners who thinks he’s a GM (Snyder) might assume Arians is great HC material and “steal” him away from us. Cross your fingers!
Supersuckers – This is the start of Thompson’s 5th year (2005-present), and the Pack are nowhere near as talented as the team Wolf had put together by his 5th season (1996), which won the Superbowl.
I would even argue that Wolf had less talent to start with (remember the 4-12 Infante team), compared with what Thompson had for a team on his arrival.
I just see too many holes on the current Packer team – needs that have not been aggressively addressed by the GM in the same way he did in Seattle. “Wait & see” just isn’t going to get it done for the Pack. The change to Capers 3-4 defense adds another dimension to this, as this isn’t always utilizing the skills of each player to the fullest potential.
But hell, there are still lots of games left to be played, so we’ll all just have to see how things turn out. This Sunday’s Pack-Vike showdown should be a good one. I can’t wait!
Super:
Still waiting for tangible proof that you are set at QB until 2021.
Beer: how has that OL improved again? They gave up their average 5 sacks to the Lions.
Because they went 1 game against the Browns–the browns ! w/o giving up a sack, all in now fixed?
By the way, the lambeau ” mystique” died awhile back, around about the time Vick and the falcons blew you out, if not then it surely was on life support until the “moon over Lambeau game.
You haven’t had the “best home field advantage” in years.
Besides, your homefield advantage is playing for the Vikes now.
You think favre and the Vikes want this game any less? Hogwash.
Packers are banged up on offense, Swain – done
Jordy- done for 2 more weeks, Finley-out.
” cliffy”- doubtful.
You don’t get 8 sacks by accident, leads me to believe the Vikes saw something in the scheme.
Mumbles is still teaching technique, so i doubt he got around to fixing it yet.
Vikes are fairly healthy minus Berrian and Winfield. There is talk that Winfield could be a go for the game……
Vikes in a laugher.
wrong thompson had to start over after he fired sherman as coach. first year was evaluation.
I said Thompson and McCarthy
Thompson is a tool nobody is debating that fact.
Pervyharvin -
We both know the last team from the AFC you would want Minnesota to face in the Superbowl is Pittsburgh.
Been there done that versus giddy, over-caffeinated, want to go out a winner, 3 interception minimum, ride the white stallion on South Beach, needing a shave, Wrangler wearing, Sears shopping Favre.
Duderino,
you can argue all you want that Wolf had less talent. your argument, like all of ours, means nothing.
back from the future Chicken with the Vikes in a laugher? Proof GB is set at QB? Does Rodgers need to do more for some of you to see he is the real deal?
@ kravon- funny stuff. Last team? Wrong. We were a minute away bud. Would hate to see Brady or Manning there. Best passers in the AFC.
Kravon is moving on to Broncos fans.
@Majik Man …
No, they don’t teach you in journalism school that if you get a direct quote, you can just print it. They teach you to follow up on the story. That means calling the other people to confirm the facts of the quote. I could call the local paper and say the mayor of my town came over last night and serenaded me outside my bedroom window. Do you think the paper would print that without calling the mayor?
I didn’t say Frampton made it up. I said that just because he claimed it, doesn’t make it true. My actual feeling is that he took something the ref said out of context or that he misheard. I don’t believe a ref told a player to walk across the field and lie to his coach about something so silly. It’s illogical–like your reasoning about what they teach in journalism school. (I have a degree from the best, by the way.)
@paranoidandroid …
I love my Steelers and think you’re wrong about the playoffs. But if beating OU is all it takes to make you happy, then I truly hope you’ll be happy
@ kravon – Can’t blame you bud. You got beat up some. Maybe Deb can teach you some game bro LOL
Chickenfoot says:
Beer: how has that OL improved again? They gave up their average 5 sacks to the Lions.
Because they went 1 game against the Browns–the browns ! w/o giving up a sack, all in now fixed?
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Re-read my post please. I didn’t say all was fixed. It isn’t and it won’t be until Thompson’s gone. Good point about Ruskell too, I forgot about that.
What I SAID was the line is “slightly improved”, strictly because Lang is a better LT than Colledge, and Colledge is a better guard then Spitz, and Spitz is a better center then the goddamned backup long snapper. Once they stopped doing the McCarthy Shuffle and left people at their proper positions, things improved. By “improved”, I only mean five sacks is better than eight. We’ll take it at any rate, and Tauscher should be back this week (although who knows if he’ll still be any good after that injury).
Maybe we should try some 2WR/3FB sets to get the extra pass protection we need. If nothing else, it’ll make Thompson look like less of a fool for carrying three FB’s (who does that?).
As for the homefield advantage, NFL Network did a piece just last year that still called Lambeau #1, so take it up with them if you have an issue. Maybe you think the Humpty Dump is better? Hilarious…
Oh yeah, and woo hoo, our 5th WR is out. That’s just the advantage you needed right? You can’t beat anyone with just four good WRs. Clifton out=6 less penalties, maybe one less sack. We’ll take it. I like Lang, he plays with a chip on his shoulder, and that’s exactly what we need for a game like this. Again, we’ll have Tauscher on the other side instead of Barbie now. Not the makings of a great OL, I know, but quite a bit better than when we last faced you guys.
You’re right, you don’t get 8 sacks by accident. Jared Allen’s a monster and I fully expect he’ll get his this week too. I just hope we can keep Rodgers upright for most of the snaps. Your secondary is a disaster and it won’t take much for him to pick it apart.
Be it known I am far from predicting a win here. I still think the Vikings have the better team. All I’m saying is I like our chances more this week than I did for our last meeting.
Jim Rome taking the Pack?? WTF
Beer Cheese,
You have no idea what you are talking about. You are not qualified to make the observation you make about Thompson or otherwise. If you were you wouldn’t be typing on this site. I’ll consider that your concession.
Your comparison between the Frampton story and a serenade by the mayor is completely ridiculous. The Frampton helmet issue came up in a post game interview, in which a reporter asks players questions. The point of asking these questions is to produce a quote to print in a paper, or on the internet.
According to you, post game interviews shouldn’t be aired, at least not until the reporter has a chance to compare quotes and info that he/ she gets from every player of every team. If that’s the case, then why are most post game interviews aired live, on national television? For someone who claims to have a degree in journalism, you seem to know very little about it.
I must run along now. Beer Cheese it has beeen a pleasure getting you more up to speed on the business side of the game. You are entitled to your opinions on Thompson but that is all that is. No one with any knowledge of him has put him on the chopping block yet. Chickenfoot! The hydra is back!
Beer:
Finley and Nelson are also out…According to Mumbles.
I don’t think it’s the secondary, I think it’s the playcalling at the end of halves, but that’s neither here nor there.
Over the years Lambeau is probably #1 but recently that shine has started to fade.
Big Ben didn’t pick it apart…#1 yardage QB.
Look I’m not trying to get YOU going.
You are about the only rational Packer fan on this thread.
Dont worry Pervyharvin you will hear from me after the Packers whip your ass Sunday.
Kravon;
You are a skid mark on the underwear of life.
@Majik Man …
No, I don’t expect sports networks to censor post-game interviews. I didn’t see the interview, so I was reacting solely to Mike’s article, which said the quote was published in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. If they published the quote, they had time to follow up on it. They used to be one of the best newspapers in the country. One of my instructors was one of the country’s leading investigative reporters and worked at the Star-Tribune. I have no reason to make up having a journalism degree.
It doesn’t take a lot of time to call Eason and the official, or the NFL head of officiating, and ask for their input before running the print story. Then you have a well-rounded article instead of based only on one player’s post-game comments. Surely you can see that.
I realize you are upset about the loss. But do you really believe these officials are instructed or paid off to throw a game to the Steelers? The NFL is a corporation that lives for profits. The most-watched game this year was the first Vikes/Packers game. An undefeated Favre-led Vikes team going into the Super Bowl would be gold. What purpose would be served by the official telling Frampton to lie to his coach about throwing a helmet. It makes more sense that there was a miscommunication on the field. A few followup phone calls might have uncovered that. Journalism 101.
Suckers-
Right, because YOUR opinions of Thompson are any less speculative or more accurate than mine, right? Especially since now you’re very much in the minority by continuing to defend him.
Chicken-
You’re not getting me going. You’re just a fan of a rival team, and we are bound to disagree most of the time.
I really don’t think it matters much in this case that Nelson and Finley are out. Let’s be real: Rodgers isn’t good at quick slants like Favre is, he’s not going to have time to make more than one or two reads per play with Allen coming at him anyway. The success of our passing game hinges on whether those first two reads (Jennings/Driver or Lee) can get open. If Winfield’s out, I think we have somewhat of an advantage. If he plays, and at full strength, it’s a push.
I liked that McCarthy finally learned the importance of running the ball (after five years) on Sunday. Yes, I know it was the Browns, but having more balanced playcalling alone will make somewhat of a difference whether we actually get the yards on the ground or not.
You’re right that some of the mystique of Lambeau has faded. Best believe that it will be there in force (all except the snow) for this game though. Emotions will be running high, and that certainly includes fans. If you get the laugher you seem to be expecting, I pity any Viking fans in attendance. There will be much drunken frustration vented after the game.
Bottom line: I expect a good game. I expect a much better game than we had at the dome, and that was a close one too, at least by the final score. I don’t expect a win, but I do feel we have a much better chance this time around. We’ll know soon enough.
Something to keep in mind on the supposed Phantom trip call. We have seen it replayed 25 times, the ref on the field saw it happen real time at speeds most of us probably can’t imagine. Questionable call in hindsight – probably. In real time the ref sees an offensive players whose legs are off the ground coming around in a swinging motion, defensive player goes down awkwardly, flag comes out. Chilly says Duggan has a knot on his thigh, usually a cut block is done with the body. Duggan goes for the cut, Harrison is dodging to the outside, Duggan feels like he is out of position tries to quickly get his legs around to complete the block. Ref sees it in NFL blink of an eye speed and throws the flag. No conspiracy theory, no collusion. Sh-t happens, Vikes still had plenty of opportunities to win and didn’t.
P.S. Florio no one is falling for your gay senator routine. You know, the one who rails against gay people when it turns out he is actually gay. Face it we all know you’re a steelers fan.
P.P.S. Why haven’t we seen more coverage about the hit on the ref. That seemed a little fishy.
OHHHH MYYYY GOD, THE PACKERS SUCK!
I WISH BRETT FAVRE AND HIS TIGHT BLUE JEANS WERE PRESSED UP AGAINST MY FACE RIGHT NOW
I MISS HIM IN GREEN AND GOLD, I LOVE BRETT AND IM FAT AS HELL
MMMM THIS MILLER TASTES GOOD
Whoa, Majik Man …
I was basing my comments on your post about the Star-Tribune, not Mike’s. Sorry for the slip.
@ kravon- When we beat the Packers I never hear from you again?? lol Deal?
Deb says:
October 27, 2009 4:02 PM
@paranoidandroid …
I love my Steelers and think you’re wrong about the playoffs. But if beating OU is all it takes to make you happy, then I truly hope you’ll be happy
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Thanks Deb!
i don’t think many friendships are forged at PFT but we politely disagree and it didn’t get personal. i wish they all went that way………
Deb
Back to the follow up again? So I guess when Favre said after the game that the Steelers played well, that the reporter interviewing him should have called Mike Tomlin to make sure that the Steelers did, in fact, play well? No, they took Favre at his word and printed the quote.
If that example is a bit too sarcastic, try this one. When the Harrah’s employee accused Big Ben of rape, according to you, the first thing the story breaking reporter did was call Ben and ask him if he raped the girl. Which means he would have had to have said yes, otherwise the whole story never would have come to fruition.
Obviously, Ben did not say yes to that question, and yet somehow, the story managed to surface, based solely on the claims of one individual. Most stories do require research and verification, but when it comes to printing a direct quote, the parties referenced in the quote do not need to be contacted. Common Sense 101.
@deb
have you ever played organized football? Do you know what a crossbody block is?. It is a completely legal block, and it requires the blocker to leave his feet in the process. That is what dugan did. A leg whip is a completely different thing altogether.
The pint of my post however, is that that call was not the referees to make. It was the umpires call to make and he didn’t throw a flag.. The referee had an obstructed view 20-30 yds away. Even the linesman is in better position to make that call, and the linesman didn’t toss a hankie either.
Cool, naive fan that has never thrown a block in her life hears the term leg whip and figures it must apply. Surely, that must have been a leg whip!!LOL, even the refereee didn’t call it a leg whip. He called tripping. Go back to barbies as football rules are definately not your strength.
It was a bogus call, but no big deal. They happen. steelerfan just can’t admit that they really aren’t very good. No repeat for you!
I wonder how many skanks ben bangs on the bye? I heard he’s headed for vegas this time.
@psuckonthis …
I imagine I’ve played as many football games as you’ve run businesses or governments or played ballgames beyond the sandlot level or managed to find women willing to bed you with any regularity. But I’m sure that doesn’t stop you from mouthing off on those topics every chance you get. At least I do have some knowledge of the game from being a lifelong fan and studying the rules. We can only imagine what a sad little man like you spends time playing with.
@Majik Man …
My mistake. I tried to talk politely and logically to someone who doesn’t want to do anything but whine about a loss. You’ve run through the orchard pulling fruit from apple, orange, and pear trees, hoping to change the facts–which are that your team lost and you aren’t man enough to handle it. Hope life never sends you any real tragedies.
I don’t believe in throwing pearls before swine, boys, so you’ll have to continue your rants without me. But it’s been … well, another lesson in the dregs of humanity. Have a good night.
@psuckonthis …
I imagine I’ve played as many football games as you’ve run businesses or governments or played ballgames beyond the sandlot level or managed to find women willing to bed you with any regularity. But I’m sure that doesn’t stop you from mouthing off on those topics every chance you get. At least I do have some knowledge of the game from being a lifelong fan and studying the rules. We can only imagine what a sad little man like you spends time playing with.
@Majik Man …
My mistake. I tried to talk politely and logically to someone who doesn’t want to do anything but whine about a loss. You’ve run through the orchard pulling fruit from apple, orange, and pear trees, hoping to change the facts–which are that your team lost and you aren’t man enough to handle it. Hope life never sends you any real tragedies.
I don’t believe in throwing pearls before swine, boys, so you’ll have to continue your rants without me. But it’s been … well, another lesson in the dregs of humanity. Have a good night.
@ Deb – You rock!! A literary delight indeed to read ! Hope to more of those pearls,nothing like a MMA Beatdown! LOL
@PervyHarvin …
Thanks! You’ve been one of the great Vikes fans on this site. I’ll think of you while I’m rooting for them against the Pack
@ Deb–I’d ask you to marry me (if I weren’t already) but your’e pulling for the wrong team
GO PACK
@ Deb – Sweet! It must be challenging being a female in the football world. Every guy on PFT knows everything,don’t you know? lol Nice to see you can sling it with the best of them. I knew you were a great football mind when you made a comment about S. Rice’s jumping ability with those Packer onside kicks being a Steeler fan.That last post to suckonthis was classic. I like this site the best for the humor,can’t beat it. My bud likes the Broncos. Beat their ass for me!!! Tired of hearing about Orton is the next Elway !LOL
Deb
Not whining about the loss, just pointing out an article I found, which you tried to discredit without knowing the details. The Vikes had plenty of chances to win, even with the Zebras helping the black and gold. But the refs didn’t make Taylor drop that pass, so I’m able to accept the loss. I admit you were polite, but logic seemed to escape you while trying to disprove what I was saying, as even admitted by you. I never tried to change facts, I merely defended the facts that you tried to dispute.
@ footballrulz – I know,right??LOL As Paul Allen,the voice of the Vikings says,” nothing sexier than a woman who knows football!”
We can agree on that Packer fan!
@deb
You imagine?
Yes, that summed up your post nicely. Imagine that. Another post from deb rooted in zero fact.
I imagine you have NO life. I see you have about 20-30 posts in this thread alone. I don’t have to imagine. It’s actually pretty clear. Message board troll.
You haven’t a clue of my business accumen or political stance what does that have to do with you trumping up a tripping call into a “leg whip”. it’s easy for you to say you have “studied the rules”. Talk is cheap. The proof is in your inability to admitt that yes, as a metrafact, that call is the umpires to make. Oh my . Yes, looking from the sun into a shaded area 30 yards away just might affect the vision of 50+ year old referee.
Oh gosh. I’m sorry. I’m posting facts. Go back and imagine some more. TROLL!
The fact remains, all sports national s have called this a bad call at best. I was simply pointing out the RULES from the officials standpoint on who’s call that was to make. For some reason, you had to IMAGINE that we were still arguing if it was a leg whip, a trip or a bogus call. That argument btw is subjective. And the majority subjective opinion is that your opinion is WRONG.
Now please, find a place in your feeble lifelong fan knowledge to understand the difference.
Issue 1- the call.
Issue2- the wrong official made the “controversial” call. Which in and of itself just adds more controversy.
Sheesh. Go bake a pie. On second thought. I Imagine the treadmill for 40 minutes would do you more good.
I’m getting a beer and some peanuts for this showdown! Just going to watch the Deb vs. psukonthis unfold. Keep going guys, will make the PFT Hall of Fame. Please don’t forget to insert facts with nasty insults!! LOL
@footballrulz …
But it quickly became a passion and an easy way to separate the men from the boys. I’m a girly-girl but also pretty self-sufficient (and self-employed which is why I can make time to play on PFT). Guys who make “go back to your Barbies” comments would never be up to the challenge of me 
But there’s nothing sexier than a man who likes a woman who knows her football 
Thanks! … and it’s nothing personal against the Pack. I’d just like to see Favre prove the naysayers wrong.
@PervyHarvin … yeah, it can be challenging, but you guys make it fun, too. When I first started watching football, it was a good way to talk to guys (“What’s a first down?”
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I actually do need to go hop on the treadmill and do some weight-training–because that’s part of my everyday routine
psucks-
It’s been widely stated that when you go into the ketchup hole, you have two teams to play against simultaneously. That call was controversial, but it PALED in comparison to many other great “plays” made by the Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Refs.
If you don’t gameplan against two teams, “play the guys in the striped shirts as well”, as Holmgren said, you will lose, every time. That’s proven.
Of course, giving two scores to the defense doesn’t exactly help either, but nonetheless. If Childress had spent his week gameplanning instead of crossdressing, the Vikings might have had a shot. Obviously he didn’t, and so his team didn’t. It’s over now at any rate. On to next week, we’re certainly looking forward to it.
@ BeerCheeseSoup – Hear the news? Chilly was going to wear a Frankenstien costume to Green Bay but Viking GM Rick Spielman denied him. He was afraid the Packers organization might take it as a shot at Ted Thompson. Quite the”stone face” resemblance I guess. Sounds like you are up for some good pre game smack this week! lol
1 of 2 things are happening with most of the posters here….
1. They simply don’t watch the Steelers games and just come here to talk baseless sh*t to get people riled up b/c they obviously have no life outside of PFT.
2. At one time or another their team was called for a hold while playing the Steelers and that obviously was enough proof to show that the ref’s somehow “protect” the Steelers.
Success breeds jealousy. Cue the people about to say “JEALOUS OF WHAT?? A 5-2 TEAM THAT BARELY BEAT THE LIONS?!?!”
Jealous that I can go to any city in the U.S. and find a bar full of Steeler fans enjoying the game together on a Sunday? Jealous that noone comes to Heinz Field without leaving feeling like they’ve been in a brawl?
Obviously we’ll have to keep putting up with the “know it alls” who claim the ref’s favor the Steelers until there is a game with 10+ penalties called on the Steelers with noone going to the other team. I have a sad feeling that even then it won’t stop. There’s no use arguing those people. We’ll just “deal with it” all the way to the playoffs and beyond….like we have been.
You can’t have a rational discussion with irrational people.
Hey bes attorney
That block is a designed block, it is called a crab block, if you ever played the game you would know this.
All the rest keep talking up your packers, hit this blog on Monday, cant wait to hear you than..
This is our year!!
This is our year!!
I know there wasnt a Viking fan claiming someone won becus of 2 fluke plays?? lol Brett Kiesel smacked that ball out of bretts hand that my dear is no fluke…. Woodleys return no fluke.. Fox’s pick n return… no fluke.. I will give you some fluke plays tho.. A hailmary by Brett to win a game ,.and a missed fg by the Ravens=FLUKES!
Lol@whoever said “even the commenatarys agreed to that bein a bad call on the trip” NO SHYT>. you mean the same commenators who kissed Bretts ass the whole game??MY lord Fox commentary is the most biased ive ever seen.
It almost cute how Viking fans who once called Brett every name in the book for decades now kiss his ass.. hahaha HYPROCRITES!
CLEARLY steeler biased officiating. So obvious. God forbid the steelers lose to the vikings like the other 6 teams did. Absoulte BS. Vikings are 7-0.
Pervy-
That’s hilarious. I love it. Maybe I’ll dress up as Ted myself now. That’s MUCH scarier than any ghost, vampire, etc., at least to Pack fans…
And yes, I look forward to all the smack talk. It’s been going all year, but this should be the height of it. Good clean fun.
“# ccslick says: October 26, 2009 12:49 PM
Hey Vikes fans, I got news for you!!!! That was vintage Favre!!! He has the best running back on the planet, but he wants to stroke his ego with 50 passes. When Favre throws 50 times you lucky only 1 int and 1 strip sack look at his history. I see lots of int’s in your future, so hold off on those Super Bowl plans.”
Yes, because Favre is doing all the playcalling.
You are retarded.
@Vox’s Mommy ….
Great post!
“You can’t have a rational discussion with irrational people.”
Need to tape that to my wall! The NFL has been pushing parity for years. The more teams to win the championship, the better they like it. They have no motive to favor certain teams over others. And if they did, an undefeated Favre-led Vikings team in the Super Bowl would be a huge ratings draw.
If officials rig games in favor of the Steelers, why did it take us 40 years to win a playoff game and why did we go 26 years between Super Bowl wins? But there I go, being logical again. Guess that’s another of those feminine traits some people find so annoying
@ bigskyvikes Hey bes attorney
Are you addressing me , well if you are was the play designed to put Harrison airborn, He was clearly tripping . I do have eyes and I can see. Get over it. The call was right. The call against Heath, no total BS. and further more if you were addressing me spell my name right it is Bens Attorney not bes attorney.
@ Steeler lady I know there wasnt a Viking fan claiming someone won becus of 2 fluke plays?? lol Brett Kiesel smacked that ball out of bretts hand that my dear is no fluke…. Woodleys return no fluke.. Fox’s pick n return… no fluke.. I will give you some fluke plays tho.. A hailmary by Brett to win a game ,.and a missed fg by the Ravens=FLUKES!
That was a thing of beauty wasnt it to watch Woodley and Fox run them Tds back almost makes me giddy. and Keisel smacking it out.
Beautiful.
@ Vox’s Mommy – Don’t let the panzies get to you!! Of course success breeds jealousy. Some Vikes fans can’t shake the old SB losses. You know,even as a Viking loving kid, I still was entranced by The Steel Curtain,acrobatic ballet by Swann and Vampire Lambert. You have a great history,don’t let sore losers mess wit’ that.
Are you really Vox’s “Mommy” or is that just in fun??LOL
Bigskyvikes says:
All the rest keep talking up your packers, hit this blog on Monday, cant wait to hear you than..
This is our year!!
This is our year!!
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Ah, there you are Ouryear. I was wondering how long it would take you to show your face after the loss, all biased officiating aside. Still no sign of Caps Lock Larry though. I couldn’t be happier about that.
You should feel special.. I have been praying to five different gods for two weeks now that we win on Sunday.. Not just to have a shot at taking the division, though that would be nice, but more to get rid of you two for the season.
You weren’t here yesterday. I’ll be here on Monday no matter what happens, and if we lose I’ll take it like a man. If we somehow win though, if it’s suddenly not “your year”, we all know YOU won’t be here. That’s the way of the Viking faithful.. supportive as hell when they win, gone like the Lakers when they don’t.
Deb says:
The NFL has been pushing parity for years. The more teams to win the championship, the better they like it. They have no motive to favor certain teams over others.
But there I go, being logical again. Guess that’s another of those feminine traits some people find so annoying.
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Yes, being logical and level-headed is DEFINITELY a feminine trait. I’m no chauvinist, but that is nothing short of absolutely hilarious.
You’re right, the league itself has no reason to favor the Steelers. It’s not like these refs are acting on Goodell’s orders, he wouldn’t have anything to gain by doing that.
However, these refs are part-time employees, in a down economy, and human beings to boot. It’s absurd to think at least a few of them couldn’t be bought. Not by the Vikings, Seahawks, Packers, Chiefs, Bills, etc.. of course, but the teams that had more disposable income, say, maybe from an owner’s gambling venture or something? It wouldn’t be hard either, you’d only need to pay the head referee, and maybe one or two others, per game.. You could target the ones known to have financial problems, and it would probably cost a lot less to get one that was born and raised in Pittsburgh, and had grown up being a Steeler fan.. like, say, Bill Leavy, for example, and look! Instant Super Bowl.
They need to work on being less obvious about it though. The Dugan call was questionable at best, but a lot of the pro-Steeler calls are just blatant and shameless. Maybe with more practice..
@ Majik man …..
since you are unable to understand what Deb is telling you on the helmet story I will make it a little simpler for you ….. you are using examples of comments from Favre that are factual that players would normally say after a game and not a made up story ….why contact others to verify that….story on Ben broke when the charges were filed against him so then it’s public record anyway…. why call Ben to verify that….. and the Frampton helmet story sounds ridiculous at best from his version …. if you want to be a respected writer ,on quotes like that, I would do some research on said quotes and contact the Pittsburgh player and the official involved before printing those exaggerated remarks from Frampton ….print everyones side of that wild story …. to me it’s the writers way of saying see we got ourselves another call where we were screwed by the refs …. LOGIC & COMMON SENSE 101 ….. the woman gave you a beatdown so you are trying to be difficult …. Handle It
@Beer Cheese Soup …
Nah, you’re no chauvinist, not at all! Thanks for the laugh, mister (seem to remember you getting hot and bothered about being called “son”). I’ll probably be pulling an all-nighter on a tough assignment and this has been the biggest laugh I’ve gotten today from my breaks on PFT.
As for your convoluted reasoning … why do you suppose the Rooneys never thought of bribing officials w/their gambling money back when the family members with gambling interests were still connected with the team? And I still wonder why they let us go all those years without a playoff win and all those years between Super Bowls. And, gee, why do you suppose swell upstanding guys like Jerry Jones and Al Davis and Dan Snyder haven’t been bribing refs? Or maybe they have but their refs just aren’t as crafty as ours.
You’re a hoot, mister! Say, do you know who really killed JFK, too?
Aren’t you about ready to let it go and start annoying the Pack fans? Or are you a Pack fan who should be annoying Vikes fans? There’ve been so many weird people arguing weird things here that I can’t keep track. Have a good night. I have to get back to work. But at least now I’m smiling.
How did this get more comments than the Limbaugh stuff?
Deb-
I’m a Pack fan. I just hate the Steelers after the SB 40 disaster, it’s nothing personal. Good luck with your assignment. Glad I could make you smile.
Beer Cheese,
My opinion of Thompson doesn’t matter. I don’t make any decisions. What I was trying to point out to you yesterday is your opinion doesn’t matter either. You have no idea what goes on in the NFL on a day to day basis. So why hate Thompson? The organization doesn’t. Are you saying your more knowledgeable then the people running the packers? From what I have read from you you aren’t more knowledgeable about NFL football then a grade school kid. Trust the people in charge. you arent one of them. there is a reason for that.
Listen up Beer Cheese -
Let go of the hate for the Steelers. You will feel much better, son.
God Bless.
blitzed
There was no beatdown, she was wrong, and even admitted it in a later post. But reading these posts through black and gold lenses, similar to those worn by officials at Heinz field, could easily distort your interpretation of her admission of error and follow up apology. Try to keep up short bus.
Let go of this ref thing guys! Jesus!
Fact of the matter is, the Vikes had the ball in the red zone, or very near, with all their time outs left and a chance to win, refs or not.
CT, uncharacteristically missed the catch, they made the play, end of game.
I know it’s tough to deal with the chest beaters, but there are several good Steeler fans here, that understand the game.
It’s time to move on, the Vikes weren’t winning them all anyhow.
Time to concentrate on beating the Pack and the trash talking that goes with it.
majik man …..
there was a beatdown ….. you looked foolish and you are a doofus aren’t you …. when she says “my mistake ” and writes what she did after that she is being sarcastic as you are to DUMB to see the point and she is done wasting her time with you as you seem to be a RETARD (she was to nice to say that but I will) ….. that is NO ADMISSION OF ERROR ….you are WRONG and come up with examples as WILD as Frampton’s story …. keep reading the Mpls and St Paul sports sections ….. some of the WORST and most HOMER writers around ….. sorry to have you baffled about being a Pittsburgh fan but some of us from MN are smart enough to understand things….. wow, the short bus comment is new ….. another of the “tough guy behind the keyboard” type i see ….. JUST GO AWAY fella
So,this is PFT most commented? Testimony to the great fans of the Vikes and the Steelers.It will get beat by the Vikings -Pack aftermath next week though I’m sure. That is if the Pack fans will crawl out from under their cheese blocks after they get spanked! LOL
Pervy going fishing. Get my back Chickenfoot, sure this post will get me slammed as soon as I walk out the door lol
# Deb says: October 27, 2009 4:52 PM
Whoa, Majik Man …
I was basing my comments on your post about the Star-Tribune, not Mike’s. Sorry for the slip.
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Like I said, an apology and an admission of error. The post you referred to was after the argument was over and 2 people engaging in a good-natured ribbing. There was no beatdown, as Deb admitted to misinterpreting what I had said, and where the quote came from. Once she realized her mistake, she recanted (see above).
Granted, there are many people in MN smart enough to comprehend, but you, apparently, are not one of them. Also, you’re quite the hypocrite, calling me an internet tough guy for the short bus thing, then calling me multiple names. If you’re going to bash someone for being wrong, maybe you should first find out if the person is actually incorrect. This way, you won’t look so foolish. Deb had the courtesy and fortitude to apologize, I’m wondering if you will do the same.
PervyHarvin says:
So,this is PFT most commented? Testimony to the great fans of the Vikes and the Steelers.
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More like testimony to all the great haters of the Vikes and Steelers.. Controversy brings hits, hate is more profitable than love, at least on this site..
Supersuckers says:
Beer Cheese,
My opinion of Thompson doesn’t matter. I don’t make any decisions. What I was trying to point out to you yesterday is your opinion doesn’t matter either. You have no idea what goes on in the NFL on a day to day basis. So why hate Thompson? The organization doesn’t. Are you saying your more knowledgeable then the people running the packers? From what I have read from you you aren’t more knowledgeable about NFL football then a grade school kid. Trust the people in charge. you arent one of them. there is a reason for that.
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For once we agree. OBVIOUSLY our opinions don’t matter. There’s no need to question my football knowledge though.. I’m no businessman, but I’ve shown by now I do know the game more than most jagoffs on this site.
Your being one of the less than 10% of fans still defending TT raises plenty of questions about your knowledge as wel..
Beer Cheese,
10 percent of fans? Which include us. You conceded above that our opinions dont matter. So I am perplexed at why you would think “90 percent” of the fans that dislike Thompson know what they are talking about. They are fans just like us. With opinions that dont matter.
The opinions that do matter are those of his peers where he is praised. He still has a job so someone in the know thinks he is doing a pretty darn good job. Us PFT keyboard warriors know SQUAT!
Beer Cheese,
Trust me I know longer question your football knowledge. There is no doubt in my mind any longer that you have very little. We all in the grand scheme of the NFL know very little.
The Vikings lost the game. They did not do enough to win. Champions win games like this one.
If the Vikings cannot win games like this, they will not be in the NFC championship game.
–Vikings Fan
Beer Cheese Soup says:
October 27, 2009 10:19 PM
Ok spermcheese soup, just so you know I havent been on the viking blogs since they destroyed the packers the first time. Because all of the packer fans that come on a viking story to cry and say they finally lost I told you they would. So no I wasnt on here yesterday or the last four weeks you idiot.
But I will tell you this, I will be here Monday.
I also cant wait to hear you fudgies whine and cry about something.
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Hey bes attorney
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do you think I care if I spell your screen name wrong, there bes?
Just want to hear what you think about not having one single commentator or analist or any one with football brains agree with the phantom tripping call. Just watch any sports channel and show me this. Im glad it happened, Im glad they got that loss, I think it is a builder. They lost to one of the best teams in the NFL, also they are only the defending champs. Id say they did quite well against them, and I would hate to be the steelers on the next meeting. They are going to come out pissed off and beat the only team in their way right now. Also I dont care if I spelled annnythiing werong in theis righting.
This is our year!!
This is our year!!
@ BeerCheeseSoup – Very true,very true.
@PervyHarvin ….
Hello there, I thought I read somewhere that you were going fishing. And I was wondering how you managed that in the middle of the week. (Personally, I could use a spa trip about now.) But here you are. (Shhh … Have you noticed there are some very odd people posting on this site, and on this story in particular?)
@ Deb- LOL Odd people?? You think? This site is like a mix of Twilight Zone and Sesame Street. Got to love it though. One can cure the itch to play analyst,talk smack and laugh all at the same time. Good clean fun!(unless you are in the newest Favre thread,jungle warfare!) lol
Yah,I’m a major fish head,do it year round. Took up guiding after a mediocre boxing career. lol Hurts less. So that is how I find ample time to talk smart on here. Make time for the spa! Fishing is my version,charges me back up. Or are you one of those hard driven,100 hour a week working girls? lol
Bigskyvikes says:
Ok spermcheese soup, just so you know I havent been on the viking blogs since they destroyed the packers the first time. Because all of the packer fans that come on a viking story to cry and say they finally lost I told you they would. So no I wasnt on here yesterday or the last four weeks you idiot.
But I will tell you this, I will be here Monday.
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So, what you’re saying then, is you didn’t dare show your face after a loss, because you couldn’t handle what Packer fans would say to you? Glad we agree. That’s exactly what I said. On a related note, where is LarryBird?
Now just imagine, and I’ll concede it’s unlikely, that you lose again, but you lose to the ACTUAL Packers this time.. Am I to believe you’d have the stones to show your face and take the verbal beating, along with the horrible realization that it wouldn’t be “your year” then??
HELL no you wouldn’t. You’d be long gone, off to watch the Wild, go fishing, or take your sister on a date.. not to be seen or heard from again, at least not until April when it’s “your year” again. And LarryBird and his world-famous Caps Lock key would be gone as well, if he isn’t already. Guys like Chicken and Pervy, TRUE fans, would stay, but not you.
That’s all I was saying, and you just confirmed it for me. Thank you.
It’s ashame that next week the Vikings vs. Packers morning aftermath story will unseat this one as PFT’s most commented. I say it’s a shame because 75% of the comments will be fans calling eachother jealous losers…or just jealous…or just losers, or some type of pathetic insult that “just can’t be let go”. Pack fans will call Vike’s fans “Viqueens” and Vike’s fans will call Pack fans….whatever it is they call Pack fans. Favre will be mentioned in 97.835% of the comments. 47.571% of those comments will be positive, 46.333% of the comments will be negative, and 6.096% of the comments will have a neutral tone. At least in this one the majority of it was actual football discussion.
It’s going to be a sad display over there on Monday LOL.
blitzed
Your silence is either an admission of your idiocy and proof that Deb is twice the man that you are, or it means that your mom kicked you off the computer, and that Deb is twice the man that you are.
Beer Cheese Soup says:
October 28, 2009 7:58 PM So, what you’re saying then, is you didn’t dare show your face after a loss, because you couldn’t handle what Packer fans would say to you? Glad we agree. That’s exactly what I said. On a related note, where is LarryBird?
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Ok, Im trying this one more time, I havent been on here since the VIKINGS beat down the fudgies. Than after the loss to the Steelers I came back on. So on here until they lose than disappear is only the thing that happens in your little mind. You should seek help,
I will promise you this, monday I will be here to listen to you, win or lose. If Vikes do lose(which I highly doubt) How is their season over and why will I dissappear to say this is our year next year???
Do you really think the 09 packers can end the season of the 09 Vikings?
Take your byass out of it and look at the numbers, look at the performances, GET REAL!
CHILD,
oh and how can someone from Wisconsin tell someone from any other state to not date their sister? Isnt that what you guys do all the time.
Promise I wont disappear, Im riding this Viking TRAIN all the way this year!
Because:
THIS IS OUR YEAR!!
THIS IS OUR YEAR!!
@beercheese
By the way, thats all I was saying and you just confirmed it for me, thank you.
Do you really think the 09 packers can end the season of the 09 Vikings?
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NO. But I can hope.
@PervyHarvin …
My getaway was two weeks ago–free plane ride to Alabama and skybox tickets to Tide homecoming. Can’t beat that!
Not usually a 100-hr. girl (life’s too short) but this month started having tech problems we can’t seem to fix that have me making up lost time on new project at crazy hours. Didn’t finish last night ’til nearly 3 a.m., but I’m knocking off now. Problems should be resolved soon (or I may take up boxing
It cracks up my friends because I don’t seem the type, but for some reason football has always recharged me. I was supposed to be at a baby shower during the Vikes/Steelers game but sent my regrets. It’s gonna be a boy and his daddy’s a football fan (Bucs, bless his heart!) so I know one day the little tyke will understand
@ bigskyvikes Just want to hear what you think about not having one single commentator or analist or any one with football brains agree with the phantom tripping call. Just watch any sports channel and show me this
and yes they did On NFl network Deion and Warren Sapp both said it was a good call and
here it is big boy the article you hav been waiting for
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/28/zebra-report-simmer-stealers-haters/
Read this and shut the hell up there it is in black and white …by an official. and he also discusses Dugan hitting the ref in the back.
so ninny ninny hahaha You can spell my name anyway you want casue I was right.
and no it is not your year
Big skyekye vikes here it is in case you dont want to go to the article.
and I believe that is game set match my freind
Of all the complaints about officiating, I think the most maddening is how people who hate the Pittsburgh Steelers — so, a really, really large contingent — like to label them the “Stealers” and proclaim they always get the calls. This past weekend was a great example, as the Steelers took down the Vikings fair-and-square, but some people just can’t seem to grasp the concept.
First of all, there are tons of complaints about the tripping call which negated a Vikings touchdown — and was soon followed by a Steelers’ defensive touchdown. Honestly, I’m not quite sure what the fuss is about. Tripping is defined as (Rule 3-40) “the use of the leg in obstructing any opponent.” In rule 12-1-5, it clearly states that anyone can block an opponent as long as he’s not tripping him. I keep seeing the word “phantom” used in conjunction with this call, but click here to watch the highlight (about the 2:20 mark) and keep the rule in mind. Try to be unbiased, consider the rule and see what you see.
I really hate it when people say something along the lines of “the officials should let the players decide the game.” They did! If Jeff Dugan could have blocked his man successfully instead of diving at toward the opponent’s lower-half and whipping his legs up, the Vikings would have scored a touchdown. Instead, he committed a penalty and got caught. No touchdown. A rule was broken and a price was paid. That’s elementary.
Can anyone seriously make the argument that Dugan did not use his legs to obstruct the opponent he was trying to block? If so, please feel free to post your argument in the comments section. I would love to see it.
Speaking of Dugan, him plowing over the official during the kickoff return was neither funny nor acceptable. Look, the officials are part of the field and they take on a certain risk when being out on the field. In fact, umpires (the ones who line up in the vicinity of the inside linebackers and watch the line play) may start wearing helmets next season. Regardless of the risk and the fact that people are miffed with the guys from time to time, they are still human beings — ones who aren’t wearing pads like the players. If Dugan didn’t see the official, man, he really should have. He appeared to be running toward him for several steps and his helmet was facing the official. If he did — and it’s very suspicious, considering he was just flagged for tripping four plays earlier — then he should be suspended. To blatantly run over a guy with a clear motive is easily grounds for punishment. I’d like to believe Dugan was trying to find someone to block and accidentally plowed over Richard Reels (the back judge), but we’ll never know for sure. They are both lucky Reels wasn’t seriously injured.
In case anyone is curious, it is obviously illegal to contact an official intentionally during any part of the game, but there’s no way to prove intent on this play, thus, they couldn’t have called any sort of penalty on Dugan for the contact.
a chop block is NOT legal, you must engage the mans waist or above, you viking fruits do not
know your football at it’s a dam shame also you never won a superbowl and you will NEVER win a
superbowl either. STEELERS have 6 rings and more to come GUARANTEED! So shut you pie holes VIKING FRUITS!
OK, OK, the records set, Pervy should be happy (cause he’ll probably be dating Deb in a week or two).
Time to move on now.
cgc1969 take a chill pill dude
Find it funny how Steelers fans try to compare Miller’s penalty to Dugan’s penalty in terms of bad officiating. The Dugan call was bad as he was merely making a cut block on Harrison.
The Miller penalty was correct considering you’re not allowed to pick a defender on a passing play especially when you knock him completely to the ground. If Miller wouldn’t have de-cleated him, the flag probably wouldn’t have been thrown. However, he did so the call was easily warranted.
As for the holding calls Steelers fans are trying to point out on the kick return TD, where are they? I saw the picture earlier in this crapload of comments but that proves exactly nothing. A player is allowed to hold on to his man when he first engages contact in the front of his defender (which he did). How about learning the rules instead of spouting some stupid BS next time?
cwilson….I’m not arguing your logic on the Miller OPI call, but in a post above I pointed out, and you can blatantly see it, that Miller was BLOCKED DIRECTLY into the defender. Whoever it was that was covering him on the line still had his hands on him while he pushed Miller DIRECTLY into the other DB. People talk as if he just came off the line and ran straight into the other DB, while NO SUCH thing happened. It was within 5 yards as well. I also stated that I don’t know the exact rule, so I’m just pointing out the details of the play. But w/in 5 yards, and you’re blocked into the guy (which was OBVIOUS), that shouldn’t be OPI in my book. The flag should have never been thrown IMO.
As for the KO return, I can’t point to any specifc holds or blocks in the back. So I can’t comment directly on that play. We won, so I’m not going to take the time to go to nfl.com and watch the replay to give an exact person LOL. I’m not going to take that play away from Harvin, if Reed wasn’t sober maybe he would have actually tried to tackle Harvin instead of doing whatever it was that he did.
Okay, fellas, got some real sleep for a change last night and the tech guys “swear” our problems are resolved, so I’m gonna jump back into the deep end …
@Bens Attorney … So glad you brought this up!! Haven’t wanted to throw more gasoline on this fire but it DID look as though he deliberately mowed down that official. And he didn’t seem too concerned about the man’s condition. IF it was deliberate, it was a dirty play given the size difference and that the official wasn’t wearing protective equipment. Him getting away with that would be the worst call/non-call of the game. (Hey “Bes”–you’ve been dealing with your share of nuts this week, too
As for the “block,” it doesn’t matter what you call it or who threw the flag or whether he had sun in his eyes. The replays show that Dugan made an illegal move, so the penalty was appropriate. Sports analysts are like news analysts. Many stir up controversy to draw an audience. That’s how they keep up ratings and make themselves relevant. But like you, I’ve heard several defend the call, so the people who say “EVERY” analyst blasted the call are blowhards. EVERYONE never agrees on anything.
@footballrulz … Just a Steelers and a Vikes fan having a friendly exchange. Hard to believe, huh? Maybe they’ll make us peace envoys to the Middle East
I just read the article that Ben’s Attorney posted, and then I read the comments that followed. It is absoultely unbelievable how people can watch that video and still try to make up excuses for why it was a bad call. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!
These people say “oh, but if you watch it in slow motion, Dugan blah, blah, blah, and then the moon aligned with the sun and Jupiter lies with Mars and we had the dawning of the age of Aquarius.” You people are sick. I mean to have hatred for a team is one thing, but to continually try to say that it was a bad call that’s just ridiculous. And can someone please, please tell me why it is okay to say that Dugan’s call was bad but Heath’s call wasn’t? If all of you people are sharing a brain, you might want to get one that works.
Deb, I love you
cgc1969 – …go sell crazy some where else,we are all stocked up here!
@ footballrulz -You mean this isn’t E Harmony site? Knew something seemed strange! Too much fighting lol
@Deb- Not much for the Middle East but would consider Hangzhou! LOL
@PervyHarvin …
Still laughing at Hangzhou! Don’t be too sure things are all harmonious at E Harmony. Have an older friend who went that route and there’s A LOT of fighting at her house right now–so much for that compatibility test they keep hyping! lol
Speaking of being stocked up on crazy, did you see the post on the Titans’ LenDale White? He wants people to stop saying the Titans have given up because he says it’s not true. So does he want us to think they’re doing their best?
Hey–You two might just make good envoys somewhere. Damn Deb, you sure have alot of admirers in here-but remember–I was the first one that mentioned marriage.
Bens Attorney says:
October 28, 2009 11:29 PM
Wow, this is one mans opinion, wonder where he lives????
Watch any program, see what they say! Actually I dont care, dont look, Im thinking VIKES/PACK now!!
I told you Im glad we lost this game, (after the fact)
Vikes will build off it and take it to the fudgies.
Besides losing to the NFL champs aint all bad!!!
Go vikes!
THIS IS OUR YEAR!!
THIS IS OUR YEAR!!
@ Deb- How do we know that you are not Mike Florio?? I think he has many aliases. LOL Yah, Remember the 09′ Titans, a Happy Madison comedy coming soon.
@footballrulz …
That’s right! Gee, where are you guys when I need you? I’m surrounded by men who are fanatical about college ball. I like college, but LOVE the pros–and that drives most of the local guys nuts. They keep trying to “educate” me about why I’m “wrong.” The whole concept of personal preference seems to escape them
@Bigskyvikes …
Wow, you are really excited! And you should be. You have a really good-looking team there. But … um … are you even a little concerned about the Saints? I’m not trying to rain on your parade (honestly). But it’s a long season. Just … pace yourself so you’ll have something left if you do make it to Miami
@PervyHarvin …
How do you know I’m not Mike Florio using an alias? (You’re trying to freak out footballrulz because he’s a Pack fan, aren’t you?) Hmmm, you don’t. But let’s see if I can prove I’m a girl without losing my anonymity.
I’m logging off now to watch Project Runway. And the first time I saw a snake outside my house, I did what any self-respecting Southern girl would do and called Daddy. Oh, oh, I know … read my post to Bigskyvikes! Only a woman would think to tell an excited man to pace himself
(Sure hope my brother doesn’t scan through and see that. But I wrote to Bigskyvikes before your Florio comment was posted and that line was too perfect to pass up
@ Deb – Freak out footballrulz?? LOL That made me spit vodka,you are hilarious! I wouldn’t do that to him, he is one of the great Packer fans(a rarity in this world!) lol I was just messin’ and know you CAN”T be Florio. That telling an excited man line…I think I need 2 more drinks! lol
@ deb yes i have been dealing with the crazies but It is funny how they get all bent out of shape.
@Bigskyevikes good luck this weekend with the game. Hope you guys do pull it out. Would love to see us meet again Perhaps Febuary in Miami,. LOL A girl can hope. and No hard feelings.
@cfuska … Thanks! Love the way you use the Age of Aquarius to tell off the crazies!
@Bens Attorney … I’m with you on a Vikes/Steelers rematch in Miami–as long as the outcome is the same. Can’t imagine what conspiracy theories they’d come up with then!
@PervyHarvin … Of course I know you wouldn’t come up w/conspiracy theories because you’re sane (you are sane, right?
@ Deb- Of course I’m sane,I’m a Viking’s fan!!! lol Been called a lil’ crazy but in a good way I think!?!
Pervy — Sane/Vikings Fan
Isn’t that what they call on of them oxymorons?
You know like civil war & military intelligence.
Southern girl Deb? Don’t think Pervy could handle ya.
ah crap, gotta learn to read b4 hitting submit
ONE of them oxymorons.
@ footballrulz – lol nice try! Doesn’t it suck when you submit an error(I do it often!) lol I hate typing. Did you read the Percy out again thread? Some tool tried to call Vikes and Pack fans losers!
Would you guys exchange myspace accounts and get a hotel room in lets say Chicago and get it over with already….
Well, hello, GBISFULLOFFATTIES (lovely screen name), what brings you here? Not enough action on the Vikes/Pack board?
posted: “Maybe Minnesota, where the media could craft their ultimate narrative, the Tebow-learns-from-Farve-as-they-go-fishing-together story.”
@Pervy … I don’t know–do you have one of those Viking hats with the horns on it? You have to admit they make guys look a little crazy
@footballrulz … yep, Southern girl in love with the Steelers. Go figure
Okay, have you guys read the “Dungy loves Tebow” (gag me) thread? Everyone was speculating what team would take him and a guy named rolltide (of course
Andy and Opie! Hysterical! Roll Tide!
@GBIS–good one.
Don’t try and lure me into this fiasco lol. I’m having a hard time adapting to all the love that’s been going around in the past 50 comments “not typical on this site”
Don’t get all bent out of shape guys. We are all just running up the most commented numbers.
Careful, GBIS … you venture in here and you might never get away
But if it restores your faith in PFT, I’ve just told someone on another thread that his post is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard 
DEB: You can’t tease me like that… What did he say?
There is nothing better then the comments that restore your faith in America, ugh… I mean smacking your hand against your forehead
And in running up those numbers we are ensuring that a football story remains the most commented story on a football site–which is as it should be. We’re making friends. We’re having fun. We’re talking about the sport we love. All is right with the world. (I sound like I’ve been hitting the happy sauce. It’s been a long day. Time to step away from the computer for a while
Deb: are you A Bama Fan..Well girl that is something else we have in common.(if you are) i think they will be National Champs this year,
Oh and if by chance the The Vikes/Steelers would meet i can gaurantee you if the Steelers pull of another win. there will be all kind of theories. Better start working o the rebuttals now.LOL enjoy the weekend.
Is Hangzhou still in the running? LOL
I like pie.
Just thought I’d help run up the numbers
@ cfuska – that was funny! Reminded me of a Will Ferrel line
Cfuska–sometimes you kill me with you humor. Can’t stop laughing
mmmmmmm, pie (drool, drool), and donuts too, with purple stuff in ‘em. According to Homer, purple is a fruit. Mmmmmm….tasty, healthy donuts w/ purple…..aaawwwghhh…..washed down with a Duff beer……mmmmm tasty beer…..
Go Vikes & Go Tide!
Doing my part to keep the hit numbers up.
Hey Deb, meet you at Dave and Busters at midnight! LOL
Darn Pervy, I missed Dave and Busters!!! lol Are we still on for Hangzou? Will there be pie?
@GBIS … It was too stupid to repeat
@Bens Attorney & Duderino …
Tide fans!!!! Roll Tide!!!! I’m surrounded by Gator fans (and oooh they are obnoxious). I know #13 is in our near future, but right now I just want to win the SEC and shut some people up. (pleasepleasepleaseplease)
Okay, Florio, this one’s for you …
So I’m at Walmart chatting with a friend when along comes a guy in a shiny new Big Ben jersey. I say “Go Steelers!” and Shiny Ben looks TOTALLY CONFUSED and keeps walking. My friend shakes his head in disbelief. It’s the first time I’ve ever said “Go Steelers” to someone wearing the jersey and gotten no response.
Later at checkout I see Shiny Ben, wife, and very hyper costumed kid ahead in my lane–with no purchases. The guy between us is keeping such a distance from them that the whole scene looks strange. But I soon understand why he’s keeping his distance. They’re behaving very … strangely. Suddenly they leave the lane. The other shopper hurriedly unloads his cart. But as the cashier’s about to ring him up, Shiny Ben & Co. come back–w/two Cokes. That’s it. Lines of people with full carts, four empty express lanes, and here’s Shiny Ben in the regular checkout w/two Cokes!
They butt right in front of the other guy–who’s giving them his best serial-killer glare–and try to pay w/an ATM card they don’t know how to use. It takes 10 minutes for the cashier to sort them out. Apparently they only went through all this to get cash back. Finally, I edge close enough to hear them talking. And guess what? They’re British tourists.
No wonder the guy had a blank stare when I said “Go Steelers.” He just happened to buy a shiny new NFL jersey. The game means nothing to him. But I’m sure he’ll become a rabid and knowledgeable fan when the NFL moves a lone franchise to London (she rolls her eyes).
@ Deb- Shiny Ben sounded like a real tool! LOL Can’t believe he didn’t get a Packer jersey! That is fine Deb,after 10 lethal weapon shots and “in your face” air hockey, I forgot I was at Dave and Busters too! lol Hangzhou it is! Heard the pie is always sweeter there!!LOL
Hey Pervy–you & Deb can eat all the pie (hope you like cat) in Hangzhou that you can hold–but no fair on the Packer jersey. Especially when you have so many other choices–think Lions & Bears & Tigers, oh my…
oops no tigers
You’ll have to get those in Hangzhou too
I hope that girl you’ve been talkin to jorge about doesn’t see this string–I hear they’re pretty fiesty
BTW you need to go back to the “Harvin has another illness” string if you haven’t. You have some unfinished business with bucc1933 or whoever
@ footballrulz- LOL couldn’t resist the Packer joke! That jorgay is one fiesty lil shit,I’ll give him that! Didn’t expect to see him in the Rodgers street threat murdering me! lol
Oh. buccwheats back! I best get to crackin his lil’ brain! Thanks for tip bud, would of missed it! I’m so hated!Why?Why? LOL
Pervy—promise me you are not SuperBowlVikes. I’ve got to know that that is not you or Chickenfoot…
HHHHeeeeyyyyyyy Deb
@Pervy … Maybe the Ben jersey was just his Halloween costume lol.
Yech, that wouldn’t have appealed to me. I had simple tastes. Someone once put ice in my drink and I fished it out and tossed it aside 
Well, I gave up the “lethal” stuff for a healthier lifestyle. But I just Googled Dave & Buster’s Lethal Weapon shots and OMIGOSH! LOL! I cannot believe you drank 10 of those! What were you thinking? Not much after that
HHHHeeeeyyyyyy rulz
OK, I’m confused. You had simple tastes? You don’t like ice? Hell girl I’m assuming you are somewhere near Alabama. It’s illegal not to drink sweet iced tea in Alabama-I’m sure of it.
I know that’s the case in NC.
Time to split–I’ll have to catch your answer, if any, tomorrow.
C ya
Pervy
I think Favre’s “All I ask for is respect” thread might take the record. Better find somemore pie eaters.
@ footballrulz- Nope. That isn’t me. One account is more than enough! lol
@ Deb- LOL I felt great!! Nice you live healthy,I do also. Two days a week though is party like a rock star time. Really a beer guy though. YAH IOWA HAWKEYES!!! Grew up there,always be my team.
@footballrulz- LOL Just came from that one! more pie eaters? lol That’s funny!
Hey, rulz … I’m in Fla, but half the family’s in Ala. Yep, grew up on sweet tea, but for some strange reason I’ve never much liked ice. Wasn’t a big drinker but used to go for Jack and never wanted it “polluted” w/ice or mixers
Gave it up when I quit smoking. Now I’m an angel–no vices 
Congrats to your Hawkeyes, Pervy!
@ Deb- Not too big of an angel I hope? LOL Something about Southern gals that is very appealing. I been in Florida a few times don’t you know! LOL
@Pervy … Plenty of fire beneath the halo. Can’t you tell by some of my posts? lol
Hey, have a bone to pick w/you! Earlier today followed rulz’s roadmap and read your battles w/jorge & bucs guy. Very funny–until you made fun of uneducated people in Fla. Wha …?? Bucs guy deserved insults but take it easy on the rest of us! (Since you’re Irish, I’ll forgive you
Okay … came home early to make up sleep tonight so better shut this thing down (time flies once you start reading posts!
@ Deb- Yes I can tell! lol I was just AD truckin’ the poor fool. Of course I know that Florida harbors smart people as yourself. Thanks for forgiving my Irish azz,lord knows King Edward Longshanks wouldn’t! LOL
OK Deb-now I know you are a true southerner. No one would ever ruin a good bourbon with ice or chaser. Straight up & smooth. The chaser’s what causes the hangover!!`
Yep, rulz, Jack seemed a good choice for a Southern girl, but now I stick to lemonade–keeps me out of trouble
King Edward Longshanks lol. Yeah, Pervy, love the Irishmen, but too smart to believe anything they say
Speaking of annoying things about Fla. (other than the Gators) … The NFL switches the AFC network game each week between Miami & Jacksonville. So do I have the smack-talking Fins & Jets rematch? Noooo. This week I have Jags & Titans, a game only a player’s mother would watch. Thank goodness for NFL RedZone! But I wish the Jets would stop dressing like 70s Rams.
Okay, rulz & Pervy … time for Pack/Vikes. Can I wish you both good luck?
@ Deb- Don’t believe what we say?? LOL That is not nice! Thanks, Vikings victory is sure, best believe that!!!
@Pervy … I’ve known a lot of Irishmen. I know whereof I speak.
It’s Over… VIKES WIN VIKES WIN VIKES WIN!!!! SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
@ Deb- Those must be Southern Irish. Northern much more trustworthy!! LOL
@Pervy … Ach, they were from the North–and could outmaneuver the Dublin boys with no trouble a’tall
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