As part of Wednesday's House Judiciary Committee meeting that was, in theory, completely unrelated to the fitness of persons to own a chunk of an NFL team, one of the men who posed questions to Commissioner Roger Goodell took aim at the league's position regarding Rush Limbaugh's former membership in one of the groups attempting to buy a large chunk of the Rams.
In all fairness, another member of the Committee, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Tex.), opened the door with an indirect reference to Limbaugh. And so Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) pounced, questioning Goodell regarding the inconsistency between the perceived unfitness of Limbaugh and the approval of "Fergie" from the Black Eyed Peas and Jennifer Lopez to hold limited interests in the Miami Dolphins, despite the content of the lyrics of some of their songs.
The transcript of the remarks and a video clip of the question and answer session are available at Limbaugh's web site.
King's point is a valid one. If the NFL is going to wade into the murky and subjective process of deciding who should and shouldn't have a seat at the table, it's important to do so with a clear understanding of what does and doesn't make a person fit or unfit to become a partial owner of a pro football franchise.
But we also think that King overplayed his position a bit by suggesting that the only potentially racially offensive comment Limbaugh ever made came in 2003, when Limbaugh said that the media has overrated Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb because it wants to see a black quarterback do well. King, who argued that the McNabb quote speaks to racist tendencies of the media and not Limbaugh, suggested that eight other quotes attributed to Limbaugh are "complete fabrications."
King is incorrect. At least one of the statements -- and indeed one of the most potentially racist and offensive of the group -- is not a fabrication. Limbaugh said that, at times, the NFL looks like the Crips and the Bloods without weapons. Limbaugh admitted it on October 14, 2009, and he seemed to express some regret for saying it.
"I have the game on a pedestal," Limbaugh said. "I have the people who play it on a pedestal. I don't want that to change. So I was criticizing a mind-set that is destructive, and it was not helpful. It was not racial. Bloods and Crips makes it look racial, the way I chose to describe it. I could have perhaps chosen a different term."
In response to King's point, Goodell offered up an answer suggesting to us that Goodell simply wasn't properly prepared to be asked about the likes of Limbaugh and Fergie.
"Let me try to take this in a couple of different directions," Goodell said. "First off, my comments at the annual meeting were directed about specific comments [Limbaugh] made about Donovan McNabb; and I made the point, and I will make it again here today, that the NFL is about bringing people together, it's about unity and that we do not -- we do not move towards divisive actions. And, in fact, our teams, I think, have demonstrated that both on and off the field. Nothing brings a team and a community together better than the NFL."
Goodell didn't address the question of whether lyrics from Fergie and Jennifer Lopez are "about unity" and bringing people together. It's probably fair to assume that this issue wasn't even a factor in the vetting process of these and the other new partial owners of the Dolphins. Steve Ross is trying to inject a "wow" factor into his new franchise, and he has targeted musicians and other celebrities toward this end. The specific things that helped make these folks sufficiently famous to add sizzle to the Fins likely weren't closely reviewed. So it wasn't an issue.
But it potentially becomes an issue when someone is excluded from ownership under a general character test that apparently wasn't applied to Fergie and Lopez.
Limbaugh responded to yesterday's developments by calling Goodell "a total weasel," which likely won't prompt the NFL to revisit its position regarding Limbaugh. Our view on the matter is that neither Goodell nor any of his handlers anticipated that a hearing on brain injuries would include questions about Limbaugh, and that Goodell was simply forced to squeeze out a little impromptu lemonade. Given the apparent lack of preparation, Goodell did the best that he could.
But Goodell (whose father was a U.S. Senator) or someone else in the upper reaches of the league office probably should have accounted for the possibly that politicians might behave like, well, politicians. For example, Goodell should have been ready to cite Limbaugh's Crips and Bloods comment, which many would view as revealing an inherent race-baced mindset that no amount of post-hoc explanation by Limbaugh can erase.
Goodell also should have been prepared to explain that the use of language in song lyrics can be problematic only if the lyrics cause widespread controversy and division, and that none of the Dolphins' minority owners has reached with the words they sing the level of notoriety that Limbaugh has achieved with the words he speaks.
It's unknown whether this issue will again rear its head. If/when it does, we suspect that Goodell will be properly equipped to put the matter to bed, once and for all.
Goodell gets grilled on Limbaugh
Posted by Mike Florio on October 29, 2009 11:21 AM ET
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Comparing Fergie and J.Lopez to Limbaugh is laughable.
What offensive lyrics did Jennifer Lopez ever have? Black Eyed Peas? Lets Get Retarded? Talk about grasping for straws.
Goodell got caught flat-footed simply because he has no answer for why one potential-partial owner's controversial comments are any different that the other partial-owner's controversial comments.
It's stunningly hyprocritical. And Roger knows it.
But of course, you can't put it to bed, Florio, because it gives you one more chance to inject your politics into a FOOTBALL site.
We know on which side of the aisle you reside. You've made that perfectly clear millions of times. If you want to wax political, go start propoliticstalk. Until then, stick to football. We don't come here for your views on things. To borrow a phrase from an organization you clearly despise, you report, we decide.
Florio, look, we get it. With liberals running the country and the media, comments are only divisive and controversial if you guys say they are. The reason so many of us conservatives have a problem with this is because we don't play by your rules.
So, you're telling me that if I would have had angry conservatives speak out against the trampy and racist lyrics in Fergie's and J. Lo's songs and I would have taken things they said out of context and I would have made up things they never said and I would have got a fiery reverend on my side known for playing racial politics, then the NFL would have forced Fergie and J.Lo out of the ownership bid? Or would you have issued an article saying "Whiny conservatives complain about completely uncontroversial song lyrics made by harmless entertainers?"
And it's hilarious to continue to see people peddle the bloods and crips comments off as racist. Last I checked, every NFL team has at least one white player on the roster, not by any quota, just be sheer luck. Does anyone here think Rush was arguing that the bloods and crips were allowing white people to fill in their membership roles? He was talking about the level of violence in the league and comparing it to the most violent force out there. He apologized for using the term because he knew it gave his critics ammo to claim him a racist.
So, all things said, it comes down to enough people manufacturing the fact that Rush is a racist to get him removed from an ownership bid. So, now conservatives just need to up our game and complain and whine and make things up and deny reality and whine some more and get people we don't like politically removed from the NFL. Well, at least you set the ground rules out loud and clear. I just hope their are some conservatives out there with as little dignity and class as you liberals who will play by the same rules.
I'm not a fan of Limbaugh - while I agree with much of his politics, I think his schtick is overdone and he brings a lot of heat on himself. That said, I've listened with interest throughout the years and while he's said some pretty edgy things, I don't believe for a moment that Rush Limbaugh is a racist. He's just a magnet for controversy.
Black and Gold Brad
WTF are you talking about?
He didn't have an answer because it's such a dumb question one wouldn't think anyone would ask.
Comparing Fergie and JLo, to Rush Limbaugh?
I would love for you to sift through all of their lyrics, and interviews, hell even their movie rolls and see if you find anything remotely as offensive as what Rush has said.
The only thing they have in common is that they are celebrities, otherwise they are completely different.
Stop slobbing Rush's knob
"What offensive lyrics did Jennifer Lopez ever have? Black Eyed Peas? Lets Get Retarded? Talk about grasping for straws."
Should really check your facts before opening your mouth.... there's far worse than "Let's Get Retarded". Lopez has been fond of using 'the n word' in song, for one...
The eight comments that I think were circulated in the email about Rush didn't include the crips and bloods quote.
Also its not racist to say a football game is a like a fight between the crips and bloods. First both gangs are not exclusively one race. They allow other races, although they may be mainly one. Second from the quote it seems rush was not speaking to race at all. Its seems he was talking about how players were dressed or behaving. Claiming someone looks or acts like a gang member is not racist.
It would be similar to saying something looks like a prison riot.
I'm sorry, you lost me when you said Rush Limbaugh.
What offensive lyrics did Jennifer Lopez ever have? Black Eyed Peas? Lets Get Retarded? Talk about grasping for straws.
From the transcript.
but with Fergie and with J. Lo, they have, between the two of them, alleged that the CIA are terrorists and liars, they've promoted sexual abuse of women, they've used the N-word, verbal pornography, recreational drug use, et cetera, and they are owners of the Dolphins,
Why is it so "hypocritical"? People forget, this is a business. Fergie and Lopez are good for business. Limbaugh is bad for business. Regardless, Goodell didn't say Limbaugh couldn't buy, he just made it clear he would make it very difficult. Is this any diffent than what any business partner would do to stop a purchase from an unwanted potential buyer?
why is that even being brought up i thought it was about players health if i was hitler i mean goodell i would have told that guy to kiss my ass
As a black man, I have to be honest.
I am no Rush Limbaugh fan, at all - however, I think it is unamerican to keep someone from buying something they want to spend their own money on.
I think they should have let him purchase a piece of the franchise.
They thing that would have been the true test, would have been to see what would have happened after the purchase. His relationship with black players on the team. Hiring future coaches and assistants. Front Office personnel. The general make up of an organization.
To me and I am speaking from a black man's perspective, his comments have a racial undertone to them. But he gets paid to push the envelope, that's how he has made his millions, just like Louis Farrakhan, Howard Stern, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Ann Coultre. They get paid for pushing the envelope, you draw attention to yourself and sell books, get paid.
Now if any of them decide to buy a team, let'em - it's up to you whether you will support a company or product?
It offends me every time J.Lo uses the N word and I'm sure parents of retarded children would find offense in Fergie singing about getting retarded, else, why did they change the lyrics for the radio? jj jones and crazy donkey, why don't you give us your list of people we're not allowed to make remarks about and those we can. Off limits so far, I've got blacks and hispanics, and liberal drug users, fair game so far, I've got whites, retarded people, and conservative drug users. Let us know so we can all play by the same rules.
I understand why people believe Limbaugh's comment about McNabb wasn't racist. They are ignorant. Ain't nothin to be ashamed of, it's the willful ignorance that's most troubling.
But what the post leaves out is that Goodell did specifically distinguish between his comments about Limbaugh and the process for reviewing the Checketts group's proposal to buy the Rams. And he responded quite nicely to King's repeated reiteration of Rush's claim that McNabb is treated differently because he's black. Although, maybe Rush does have a point; in this day and age it's not really clear whether or not black people can play football as well as white people...
As to the supposed equivalent comments made by the musicians in question, King merely asserted that such lyrics existed, and did not actually supply any quotations to back up his claim.
Where is affirmative action in the NFL. I'm sick and tired of seeing all blacks on the field. Where's the white dudes!!!
If you couldn't figure this out, it was a joke.
While 99% of doors swing both ways, the doors of racism and political views do not. It's BS.
Legend, I'm not much a fan of Limbaugh either, I haven't actually heard one of his shows. However, I am a fan of freedom, and what happened to him ain't it. And the only reason I keep this argument going is because one day, who's to say it doesn't happen to me?
While I don't care if Rush, or J-Lo, or anyone is an owner of any team, I also don't think Limbaugh's comments about Crips and Bloods was racist.
Crips and Bloods are gangs, simple as that. Regardless of their race. What are gangs? Criminals.
I think Rushs' comments were implying that the leauge has turned into a bunch of petty criminals.
Which should be plainly obvious for a site that maintains a "Turd Watch" section complete with a "Police Blotter" page.
Laughable that you bring up the Bloods and Crypts comment SINCE the NFL banned gang signs after TD after that debate. Mmmmm.
Although I disagreed with Limbaugh's comments about McNabb and the media, Limbaughs job is to stir the pot. It wasnt racist - it was to develop on dialogue and put him on center stage on a debate whether the medias impact on societal views rather than just reporting them. Hes done the same thing in the political liberal vs conservative media setting too.
Goodell sure did a great job bringing the nfl and community together when he leaked spygate tapes to his wife at fox and led a media frenzy against one of the most successful teams in the league forcing them to respond to fabricated walk through taping claims the day before the super bowl. nice work rog! way to be consistent!
Fergie, Lopez, and Limbaugh's messages are received by millions. They each have influence over their collective audiences.
Limbaugh's being singled out because he's a white guy and ergo has no right to comment race in any context. All the people who attack claim to have more the moral authority (Sharpton, Jackson, etc.) to dictate their politics than Limbaugh himself. That in of itself is racist.
Someone else for a change was pointing it out. Again, even when King pointed out the context of the quote, Goodell still thought it was a direct attack on McNabb. Limbaugh blamed the media for McNabb getting too much credit rather than the whole team itself.
As far as Limbaugh's comments on the NFL being run by the Bloods and the Crips, all you have to point out is this site's daily counter of "Days without Arrest." He could have said "gangbangers" but would probably still come off as controversial.
I think the offensiveness of J.Lo and Fergie is their music. It's terrible - offensive
What are these 8 racial quotes by Limbaugh? Just because he makes a statement that questions racism, doesn't make him a racist.
You, sir, are grasping
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Blame it on the liberal Goodell - whose father was a Republican Senator, whose wife is a Fox News host, and whose job it is to represent a group that is 95% Republican. How does this make sense?
Yes, rush is a racist. So are Jessie and Al.
Did I just see the name Limbaugh? Oh my, two Favre's and a Limbaugh in the past 24 hours. That's like being dealt a full house in poker.
How bemusing...
Oh, one other thing - the Crips and the Bloods are *primarily*, but not *exclusively* African-American. Much like the NFL. Regrettable statement, yes. Racist, no.
"Limbaugh responded to yesterday's developments by calling Goodell "a total weasel"
Pot meet kettle.
"And it's hilarious to continue to see people peddle the bloods and crips comments off as racist."
And its retarded to think or expect that it would be taken any other way.
Not that I am pining for Rush to have any affiliation with the NFL, but this is just more of the same ad-hoc discretion and ex-post rationalization that has been the hallmark of Goodell's chaimanship.
He has left no discernable pattern when deciding whether (or how long) to suspend players for detrimental conduct.
He is quite consistent though when it comes to fining players for questionably questionable hits and not taking (serious) action against coaches for their indiscretions.
A real stand-up douchebag.
Telling the truth and stating the obvious is not racist. Limbaugh's comments about Bloods and Cripts is a legitimate observation. No amount of political correctness can change what you can see with your own eyes. Numerous players in the NFL and the NBA have tattoos all over their bodies. Even the occasional observer would notice this. Not all players with these tattoos are black. There are some white players with tattoos. To me as well as many other observers, this insinuates that they are part of some gang or want to be thought of in that way. Does the NFL or the NBA want their fans to associate their respective leagues with gangsters? Do they want to promote that image? As far as the McNabb comment, Limbaugh is right again. The media is alwaya more careful when it comes to criticizing a black player versus a white player. They are also afraid to be labeled racist for criticizing a black player. In a related manner, I happen to know for a fact that the HR departments of major corporations go through a long and tedious exercise of accumulating paper work and evidence on a minority employee that they must fire because the employee is incompetant at their job. However, when they need to fire an incompetant white person, especially a male employee, they can achieve it in far less time and with far less concern of a law suit.
shinsnake says:
"So, now conservatives just need to up our game and complain and whine and make things up and deny reality and whine some more..."
Ummm, isn't that what you have done for decades and continue to do today?
"Everyone is telling us we have to bend over and grab our ankles because his father was black." Rush Limbaugh on President Obama. I wish Goodell would have asked Steve King what he thought of that comment. Not only was it inapproriate, it was a lie and it was immature as hell. But that is right wing humor in the age of Obama. Images of being raped, by the first black president, no racism here people, move along. Do a little research on Mr King Florio. I know you are scared of being lynched by the Limbaugh crowd but they are more more loud and beligerent than they are credible and sane. If a man feels this way, of course he doesn't think Limbaugh has made racist and divisive comments in the past: "I don't want to disparage anyone because of their race, their ethnicity, their name, whatever the religion of their father might have been. I'll just say this, that when you think about the optics of a Barack Obama potentially getting elected president of the United States, I mean, what does this look like to the rest of the world? What does this look like to the world of Islam?... And I will tell you that if he IS elected president, then the radical Islamists, the al Qaida and the radical Islamists and their supporters will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on September 11th." March 7th 2008 radio interview but he has more: ""It does matter. His middle name does matter. It matters because they read meaning into that and the rest of the world, it has special meaning to them. They'll be dancing in the streets because of his middle name. They'll be dancing in the streets because of who his father was ... So there are implications that have to do with who he is and the positions that he has taken ... There will be dancing in the streets if he's elected president and that has a chilling effect on how difficult it will be to ever win this global war on terror." And if that wasn't cringe inducing enough here he is on Helen Thomas, the 85 year old dean of the White House press corps: "There probably are not 72 virgins in the hell he's at. And if there are, they probably all look like Helen Thomas."
F-U Steve King and all you sick F-ing Republican water carriers.
Jennifer Lopez's lyrics may not be controversial, but the chick herself is far from uncontroversial. Anyone remember a dress that had to be taped on to keep this side of an indecent exposure charge? Or a night club shooting where someone died? You know just a regular night out for some football players.
Dont you have an arrest meter on this site?
Mike has no problem with congress attacking a private citizen. Party membership has its privileges.
The party will re educate Goodell so he can give the 'proper' answer. Remember people we are now in a liberal Utopian environment. They will teach you how to think more clearly. And if you don't they will give you the proper words to say that will be pleasing to the leader.
I think, utimately, the problem wasn't Limbaugh's political leanings, but rather the fact that he goes out of his way to mock and ridicule half the population-- many of whom are NFL fans. With Limbaugh, even hypocrisy isn't a boundary, as I've heard the man taunt fat people, drug addicts, people that avoided the Vietnam draft through deferment, etc (basically, many things that describe himself). I'm not sure that you could say that Fergie or J-Lo get rich by simply being divisive. I think (and hope) Bill Maher, for example, would run into the same problems that Limbaugh did. I have no respect for Maher for the same reason I see Limbaugh as a mindless buffoon. Both of these guys built their wealth not through forward thinking, but by pushing reactionary hot-buttons to draw attention to themselves, and they have sustained their audiences by playing on the stereotypes they use to define the opposition. It's good to see that Limbaugh now gets to swallow some consequences, because his is a pulpit void of the type of accountability most grown-ups live with. He was publicly embarrassed and ridiculed, which is fitting since he has made a living try to embarrass and ridicule others in public.
You reap what you sow, I guess. But give me a break that Rush got jonesed because he's a conservative. I'm guessing that 95% of NFL ownership are conservative. Its business, not personal-- and good business at that.
Fergie = tweeker. meth-head.
J-Lo = Untalented, opportunistic ho known primarily for who she hooks up with and the way she works her great big ass for the camera.
"But Goodell (whose father was a U.S. Senator)"
Pretty much proof of his weaselish bloodline.
j lo and fergie sing? when i watch them on tv i usually have them on mute, stare, and drool.
I am curious as to why no one in the main stream media makes no mention about Demaurice Smith's association with Obama & Eric Holder. He worked on Obama's campaign & also his transition team and is also very good friends with Eric Holder....I'm sure he gave an objective review of whether Limbaugh would be beneficial for the Rams ownership. Maybe, all the democrats on the committee have a little axe to grind with Goodell since his wife is an anchor on the Fox News channel, because we know how much Obama & the Dem's like that channel. Oh that's right, they say Fox News does not exist...They must be right.
Goodell says: And, in fact, our teams, I think, have demonstrated that both on and off the field. Nothing brings a team and a community together better than the NFL.
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Unless, of course, you're a Redskins fan..
In case anybody wondered, the reason Florio continues to post this crap is pretty transparent.
Look at the most commented stories on the right-hand side of the page. SIX of the ten are Limbaugh-related stories. He knows that if he continues to post this tripe, you guys are going to come along with your "I hate Limbaugh" or "I love Limbaugh" rhetoric and load up the comments section. It's a way to drive page traffic and to get across his ridiculous political views.
So there, now it's out in the open.
Limbaugh's comment about the Crips and Bloods is not a racist comment. It's not surprising it's been twisted that way, though. Quick, name two gangs! Crips and bloods. OK, now name two whites-only gangs. Ummm. That one's a little harder. He used the crips and bloods because most people have heard of them, not because he was trying to single out blacks in his criticism.
Limbaugh's point in making the statement was to point out the thuggish behavior seen weekly by many NFL players. Of every skin color.
Personally, I think his comment is more valid in the context of off-field behavior than it is in the context of on-field behavior. Florio's Turd Watch is a direct reference to that. And you'll find NFL players of every race on that list.
I think Limbaugh being a partial-owner of the Rams could've had a positive impact in at least one respect. Perhaps there would be one team attempting to enforce higher standards of behavior. Or if not, Limbaugh would be highlighted as a hypocrite. That's win-win, right?
And I think it's highly hypocritical for Goodell to backtrack on his comments regarding Limbaugh and say that Limbaugh's participation in the group wasn't even on the table because the current owner hasn't even decided to sell yet. Give us all a break, Roger. Your comments conveyed exactly the message you intended--that if Checketts wanted to be taken seriously he needed to dump Limbaugh. It's too late for you to take the high road and say it wasn't even up for your review. The writing was on the wall and Checketts (and everyone else) saw it.
And of course he didn't address the question of J. Lo and Fergie. That would be admitting a double standard.
Seer,
get a clue. Again the comment was about the media. That Obama is supposed to be treated special because he is black. You see liberals like Floor-Boy continue this meme despite the fact Obama made constant racist attacks against McCain (How many times did Obama say McCain would make racist attacks against him despite evidence to the contrary? I guess because McCain is white had nothing to do with it) and sexist attacks against Hillary. Did not Jimmy Carter say something to the effect that most of Obama's detractors are racist. I mean I guess if you think spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave is a bad idea, that maybe one change in strategy in Afghanistan shouldn't happen a couple months after another one, or that abandoning our allies in eastern europe are all bad ideas.....well you must be a racist.
This is how Obama skates by. He sends his surrogates to play the race card, that anyone against him is racist. That way they hope people like Seer will not see facts and just be the good little sheep his is.
I'm guessing Mike's Senator, and probably someone whom he's given thousands of dollars, has said MUCH MUCH MUCH worse things than Rush Limbaugh, or those other idiots.
And I also know that Rev Dr Jeremiah Wright has said things that were MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than what Rush said and that seemed to bother nobody.
Goodell is a weasel.
Unity my ass. Mike Vick? Unity?
Dan Snyder? Unity?
I don't know about J-Lo. She's gettin' kinda' long in the tooth, if you know what I mean. But Fergie....well... is hot! Thats' what he shoulda said.
#1 The questions from the Republicans on the panel had nothing to due with the topic of the hearing and was pure politics.
#2 The NFL is a BUSINESS... In business to earn as much money as possible. If Rush prevents them from reaching that goal then it's their right to tell him no thanks. The NFL has the right to choose whomever they consider to impact there business in with positive result$ PERIOD!
#3 It's obvious the sport is dominated on the field by non-whites. Thus what player(s) with superior football skills would work for him with his known racial views and attacks on a minority President?? That team would end up the K.C. Royals of baseball.
#4 Thus blame Rush as he chose to earn a living scaring white americans with his racist tatics for years. Now he is boxed in.
I'll stay away from the Limbaugh, J Lo & Fergie comments, they seem to be well covered.
However, I didn't realize until yesterday that Goodell was such a comedian, or perhaps as Mr. Florio suggests, unprepared for his visit to Capital Hill.
"Nothing brings a team and a community together better than the NFL."
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It'a bit ironic that that statement was made in Washington, DC, where the media, the fans and the entire community is so pissed at the Redskins owner & management that they're talking about boycotting games and trying to financially harm ownership. Yeah, Dan Snyder is a fine example of an NFL franchise bringing team and community together.
Someone at NFL HQ needs to prepare Mr. Goodell better in the future.
Just in case you you didn't know, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D - Texas) once asked a NASA scientist, as they were watching the Mars Rover, if it would steer the Rover over to the spot where Neil Armstrong planted the American flag.
Keep that in mind when you read about her questioning anyone's credibility. If anything, she has done more to perpetuate a negative stereotype of African-Americans by opening her mouth than Rush Limbaugh ever will.
As for Jackson Lee getting elected, I don't fault her for that. To quote Paul Brown, " I don't blame you, I blame the guy who hired you". Check out the make up of her district and that's all you need to know.
As for Rush not gaining a part in ownership, I'm glad he didn't. I would have disrupted the equal racial balance in ownership that we currently have.
Here is the way I see it --
The celebs that have purchased interest in the Dolphins combined do not have 1/100th the polarizing effects that Rush Limbaugh has. Realistically, it doesn't matter if he said what is attributed to him or not. Take all that out of the equation if you like. He is still a major polarizing figure, causing people to pick sides.
I could be wrong, but I don't remember hearing or seeing any public outcry when J-Lo and her hubby, Fergie or the Williams sisters purchased interest. But the subject that Limbaugh was even interested in being a partner caused a major stir.
The league as a whole doesn't need a person like that to have any interest in an NFL team beyond being a fan just like the rest of us. For Rush not to see that only proves he looks out for himself (and his republemmings) and doesn't really care for the good of the game!
For what it's worth, Goodell's father, Charles, was a Republican Senator from New York.
Red headed step child Goodell has bent over backwards to appease the PC crowd..Coming from a family of Repubs and being married to Jane Skinner A Fox News babe Goodell seems want to turn in his man card...
#2 The NFL is a BUSINESS... In business to earn as much money as possible. If Rush prevents them from reaching that goal then it's their right to tell him no thanks. The NFL has the right to choose whomever they consider to impact there business in with positive result$ PERIOD!
While I agree that a business can do whatever it wants, including banning people because of their political stance, I think the NFL is different. They demand my tax money to build stadiums because their patrons will not pay the necessary cost in ticket prices. If you are going to demand public funding, you can't then turn around and discriminate based on political view point. Stop taking my money for stadiums and you can ban whoever you want.
It never ceases to amaze me that someone who has championed the cause of special interest clubs to exclude(or include) anyone they choose on any basis whatsoever is now screaming like a two year old when the tables are turned on him. Rush, you live by the sword, you die by the sword.
@ lawdjayee
Yet another moron who doesnt know what the term ignorant means. Moron, those of us who know it wasnt racist are in fact the opposite. We listened to the explanation of violence and therefor we can make an educated decision on the fact that it wasn't racist. Idiot.
I think J-Lo has dropped the N Bomb in her song "I'm real" back in early 2000. In fact it was part of her chorus. J-Lo is not black and as a result was using a racial slur. She has said more things racist just by that then Limbaugh ever has. Fergie's job is to be a face in a group of goofy looking yet talented guys. If you have ever seen her perform her goal is to look as slutty as possible.
And of course its political when the republican asks about it. Nevermind the fact that a Democrat brought it up. How about we talk about how our Democratic president doesnt even respect the military generals who give advice on how to win a war. Or how about when a sitting president talks down opposition in the media. I mean how dumb can you people be? brainwahsed is one thing but what the Obama machine has done to Americans is terrible. The fact that football is even being discussed in Congress is terrible.
roger proved he is a kept twit.
thanx dummycrats for inflicting an installed illegal alien resident zero on us.
that public option will be the only one shortly. health care deform isnt about health care - it's about having the left vacuum up the rest of the $ and rights we all have.
as the scozzafava incident has proved, the NY republican party is often as far left as the donkey party. here's to hoping hoffman out polls both of them.
rush wouldnt keep the rams from making $. he has a lot of business acumen. and his anti-tax, anti-gummint approach should on some level appeal to guys who make a lot of $... nfl players.
not a single one of them would have quit. they lie.
so what if obama's critics are racist? beck was right - obamasama can barely hold back his disdain for america. because it doesnt universally worship him or look like him.
obama and his friends are racists. but, like jester jackson, they get nervous when a bunch of black youths are around!
limbaugh was certainly right in that in mcnabb's first few winning years, it was johnson's defense and the overall talent of the team that got them there. and the media always slobbers over black QBs and stars. to say otherwise is to be ignorant.
nice job being totally utterly biased florio. the pee cee folks at nbc like olbermann must love you.
Zags,
Questioning Obama's citizenship is racist. Questioning his Afghan policy is not. Calling Obama a racist who has a deep seaterd hatred for white people is stunningly ignorant and racist. Calling Obama a Marixst is stunningly ignorant and ridiculously partisan. Right wingers like yourself refuse to look at facts. Just because Rush Limbaugh said the media wants you to bend over and grab your ankles and get raped becasue Obama's father is black does not mean it is true. It is just a way to play the card he accuses Jackson and Sharpton of playing. His whole schtick is to be exactly like he claims his detractors are. Rush Limbaugh is the most biased man in America but he rails all day about liberal bias. Rush Limbaugh constantly calls Jackson and Sharpton race hustlers but now he has outflanked them. Rush Limbaugh has played you fools all the way to his private jet that is flying him to the bank to cash another million dollar check. The man talks about Dems being wussies but he had an ass boil that made him unable to serve. I I were a redneck wingnut I wouldn't think he was a piece of crap either. Good for me though, I am not. Poor little Rushie gets beat up by evil libruls. What a joke.
I don't consider comparing criminal behavior by current NFL players to criminal gangs, "crips and bloods", to be racist.
What is really killing me, is how many people keep saying the "bloods and crips" comment is not racists.
People, being a black man, 30+ years old living in Mississippi, I KNOW RACISM!
Racism is more than just hanging black people from tree's, beating up black people sitting at a counter in a restaurant.
Settle comments, "They want to see a black guy succeed so bad" "They look like a bunch of crips and bloods!" - When a white person makes those kinds of comments. From a cultural standpoint, what does he know about crips and bloods, except that it's a gang.
Well the Bandito's, Hell Angel's, Outlaws are gangs as well. But they are biker gangs, who will tell you that they are outlaws and don't allow blacks in their organization. But he made the comparison to the crips and bloods, and not some other gang.
The comment, "They want to see a black guy succeed so bad" - well damn, I guess a black guy can't be successful at QB in the NFL. Donovan McNaab received so much scutiny from the Philly fans, and this is a guy that has made a super bowl appearance, 8 playoff appearances and been in four NFC championship games!? I think he is successful.
So he does make racists comments, they are not to the degree of a grand dragon of the KKK, but they have racial undertones.
Do I think he should be able to buy a team, hell yeah - it's his god given money. Let'em do with it as he will, I wanted to see how he would have hired and drafted in the first place, since he feels a certain way about a particular group of players. He has the opportunity to hire Tony Dungy or Pete Carroll, who does he go with? That would have been interesting to see how he would respond to a situation such as that.
But to most of the white people who feel that Rush is not a racists, ask some of your black friends how they feel about him? Then you will know for yourself.
Florio, when did you become a liberal? when you signed with NBC?
Here is what we have learned from Florio's post:
1. You do NOT have to be intelligent to post for MSNBC
2. Florio is not interested in facts or truth only in hyping this story
3. Goodell is in over his head or an idiot or both (what must Mary Jane be thinking? Hmmm
4. Idiocy begets idiocy as seen in reader comments
5. I feel dumber for having read this tripe
@ Seeryer:
Read your own comments a second time. I'm more concerned that there are people like you wandering our streets than a political commedian. Of course middle eastern terrorists would be proud someone with our presidents' middle name is in office. So would middle eastern non-terrorists. I don't agree with RL on a whole lot, but if a politcal agenda makes him dangerous, you might want to stay far away from this website as well.
I can't believe all the blather about this issue.
This is not political. We have both conservative and liberal people involved in the NFL in one manner or another. I admire both sides.
This is about an individual who is hateful and who makes a living off of crapping on other people. I would love to hear the responses of those folks who have their knickers in a twist, if Olberman or Jon Stewart were buying teams. Hyopocricy and double standard are the worst qualities a human can have. The loud screaming in your head is obviously caused by partisan mindset
The facts are this. Olberman and Stewart present their views with humor and smarts, and everyone knows where they're coming from. Both are patriotic, and both believe in the American public. Rush presents his views as hate, as anti-American, as vicious personal vendetta, he attacks our troops, our president, he attacks anything that provides leverage. This is not an issue of politics. This is an issue of one really sick pathetic screaming individual trying to make money. Get over it.
Dear god, please stop posting about Limbaugh. It's obvious that none of us will ever agree! You either hate the man or love him and neither side will ever convince the other that they are wrong, which is the beauty of this country. We have the freedom to think as we choose. What we dont have is the freedom to tell someone they cant own something because of thier political beliefs. In theory it is the same thing as telling a black man that a restaurant is whites only. Sounds assenine now doesnt it.
"At least one of the statements -- and indeed one of the most potentially racist and offensive of the group -- is not a fabrication. Limbaugh said that, at times, the NFL looks like the Crips and the Bloods without weapons. Limbaugh admitted it on October 14, 2009, and he seemed to express some regret for saying it. "
Uh, Florio? If that comment is racially insensitive, then why did the LA Times run a story last year saying that the NFL was trying to eliminate gang signs being made on the field by players?
"For example, Goodell should have been ready to cite Limbaugh's Crips and Bloods comment, which many would view as revealing an inherent race-baced mindset that no amount of post-hoc explanation by Limbaugh can erase."
Many, including you, would be wrong.
Try again, pal.
Duan wants to know how black people "feel" about Rush.
That's the problem with America today. It's all about feelings.
Why do we always talk about the Bloods and Crips that are commiting crimes? Why can't we focus on the one's that are doing good things in the neighborhoods, like building playgrounds and teaching younger kids to read?
First of all, for Zaggs or anyone else coming on here asking about other people's facts, please man up and post your own.
Please provide me with sited quotes from any time when Obama said McCain would, has, or will use racist comments. Please provide me with documented evidence that Obama ordered, implied, suggested, or hinted that people like Jimmy Carter or anyone else act on his behalf to insinuate that anyone opposed to him is racially biased.
Also, on Afghanistan, do not confuse careful concideration and prudent planning for abandonment. Hold your judgment until a decision is made, just as I will refrain from judging you until you voice your support or lack there of on Iraq, which was entered into without the support or approval of our allies.
To aane0007, stadium tax inititives are passed by voters in the communities in which they are built. They do not demand public funding, they request it, and the voters approve or deny it.
Also, the league has little to no say in these inititives. These are pushed by individule franchise owners, team support groups, and others who generally believe a new stadium will benefit the community as a whole.
I would like to hear your stance on Boy Scouts of America, who does recieve federal funding, not voted on by anyone except congress, and who does openly discriminate against aithiests and homosexuals.
Shinsnake, Capnasty, Zaggs, Adam-Chris, Bunyon, and others. Thanks for posting. It allows the rest of us to laugh because you are so racist. You don't even get it, do you? You are the very definition of stupid dumbcrap. Post away all you like. You define yourself more and more and more with every post.
Not divisive?
Goodell openly trashes Limbaugh over a minority interest bid (he wouldn't have been hiring coaches or drafting players) but hasn't said a thing about the host of the NFL's flagship program, Football Night in America, Keith Olbermann?
I'm NOT a Rush fan but I can smell a double standard.
Olbermann calls regular people worried about the economy "tea baggers" (as if we're not hip to what that means), conservative women a "mashed up bag of meat", anyone who disagrees with him "the worst person in the world", you know the rest.
I agree with a lot of his views, actually, but find the man himself repugnant. At the very least, he certainly is "divisive" Mr. Goodell!
Why isn't that a issue? Easy: because the PC crowd isn't making it one.
I don't care about JLo or Fergie, because they're minority stakeholders. Olbermann on the other hand is one of the faces of the NFL.
And Canyonero gets banned in three... two... one...
So the league is concerned about what Limbaugh SAID (supposedly), but for years turned a blind eye to the fact that the Rooney family's ownership of casinos and other gambling interests violated league ownership rules. In fact, last I heard, the Steelers' ownership structure still isn't kosher since there isn't one person that owns 30% of the team. If the league is going to break its own rules on ownership, how can it eliminate a potential owner for exercising their Constitutionally insured First Amendment rights?
Tags would never ever have let himself look as stupid as Rog.
"So he does make racists comments, they are not to the degree of a grand dragon of the KKK, but they have racial undertones."
Funny, Sen Byrd used to be a Grand Kleagle, and I'm pretty sure Florio supports the crap out of him.
And I'm also really damn sure Rev. Dr. Wright is one racist POS who hates whites.
If saying that an NFL game looks like a game between the Crips and the Bloods is "racist and offensive," then wouldn't putting prison bars on your web site to show how long it has been since an arrest also be racist and offensive?
It seems to me that both are trying to prove the same point - that there is a disturbing criminal element in the NFL.
Whether you like him or hate him, this would of been good for football.
The Rams are hideous. Rush is a football fan that would have put millions upon millions into this franchise.
The Rams would have benefited having him as a owner.
If we all knew the backrounds and politics of every owner, there would be many that you would not like.
At least you know where you stand with Rush.
"They demand my tax money to build stadiums because their patrons will not pay the necessary cost in ticket prices. If you are going to demand public funding, you can't then turn around and discriminate based on political view point. Stop taking my money for stadiums and you can ban whoever you want. "
What business doesn't use some form of public tax revenue or tax break to support it's business. Name one?
Rush Limbaugh is a complete scum bag who has made millions out of spreading hatred, bigotry and racism. His is a message of pure divisiveness. If Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh or any other left- or right-wing radical wants to enter mainstream, they should be prepared to be held accountable for their statements. Why doesn't Rush run for office? Because it's easier to just sit back and destroy than to actually build something up. What a waste of humanity, kudos to the NFL for getting this right.
DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA leader, is one of Obama's guys and biggest supporters. Smith was the biggest one crying abouyt Limbaugh. Funny how this site and everyone else loves to quote what Smith says about Limbaugh but fails to mention all his connections to Obama.
All Limbaugh does is go on the air and exercise his First Amendment rights. Funny how the liberals, who are supposedly the champions of the Constitution, are the ones that are trying to shut him up because they don't like what he says.
@ StinsonLlives - "Duan wants to know how black people "feel" about Rush.
That's the problem with America today. It's all about feelings."
actually I told the posters in here that are white, ask their black friends how they feel about Rush Limbaugh.
That's the problem with America today. It's all about feelings.
Dude if that's how you "feel" then that's how you feel. But I think it's an honest assesment.
When you look at the issues, a lot of is affected by cultural idealogies, economic influences which in turn are affected by ethnic contributions in certain areas. How people feel this group spends money, or how this group treats or their attitude towards another ethnic group.
That is a problem - people don't pay attention to other people, it's not just feelings, it's awareness.
It's jacked up too, because no one should be told that they can or cannot buy something, especially when they have the money to buy whatever they want! not only should the black people that Rush Limbaugh offended, be upset - but Rush has a legit beef as well!
It's called common courtesy and being held accountable for your actions. Rush makes his money off speaking his mind, and may I say he does it well! But he should take heed to the things he say. From a black persons perspective, who are we to block someone's civil rights - when we couldn't sit in woolworth's to buy a hamburger, or live in a certain part of town, simply because the color of our skin!
I wish reverand al would have considered that, before the protest.
I don't have to support anything the guy owns, but he should have the right to buy whatever he wants. Even though, he does make comments that have very racial undertones and implications!
Limbaugh, like Nancy Grace, sell ADVERTISTING folks. Neither are newscasters, newsmen, newswomen, news-peeps. Neither qualify.
They sell ads to maintain employee base in the business they work for and to make profit for the owners.
Greta V. and Giraldo...same, same GI.
Fox News tends to fall into the same category...but I enjoy their variety of content better than others.
One would think NOW that if Rush is not permitted in, the the use of the N-word by Jennifer Lopez would automatically opt her out of her portion of ownership...
Drat says:
October 29, 2009 1:58 PM
Shinsnake, Capnasty, Zaggs, Adam-Chris, Bunyon, and others. Thanks for posting. It allows the rest of us to laugh because you are so racist. You don't even get it, do you? You are the very definition of stupid dumbcrap. Post away all you like. You define yourself more and more and more with every post.
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And thank you for taking the lazy way out. Don't feel any need to debate the issue? Just insist you're right.
Stupid dumbcrap is right.
"All Limbaugh does is go on the air and exercise his First Amendment rights. Funny how the liberals, who are supposedly the champions of the Constitution, are the ones that are trying to shut him up because they don't like what he says."
And the NFL is exercising their right to run a buniness and maximize profits. So obviously they don't think that Rush will help their bottom line. So stop crying Rush supporter(s)! Last I looked he still is on the radio or am I missing something?
"The Rams are hideous. Rush is a football fan that would have put millions upon millions into this franchise"
OH! Like D. Snyder.... Not thanks (Ram Fan)
Duan says:
October 29, 2009 1:30 PM
From a cultural standpoint, what does he know about crips and bloods, except that it's a gang.
Well the Bandito's, Hell Angel's, Outlaws are gangs as well. But they are biker gangs, who will tell you that they are outlaws and don't allow blacks in their organization. But he made the comparison to the crips and bloods, and not some other gang.
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And do the Banditos, Hell's Angels and Outlaws routinely war with each other? Seriously, I don't know. What I have heard is that the crips and bloods are constantly fighting each other. My ignorance on these other gangs is just an example. Bloods and crips are more universally known. That's why I believe he used them in his comment.
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Duan says:
October 29, 2009 1:30 PM
The comment, "They want to see a black guy succeed so bad" - well damn, I guess a black guy can't be successful at QB in the NFL. Donovan McNaab received so much scutiny from the Philly fans, and this is a guy that has made a super bowl appearance, 8 playoff appearances and been in four NFC championship games!? I think he is successful.
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I've never agreed with Limbaugh's view of McNabb and I think he's terribly misguided on it. And I haven't seen any evidence of the NFL "being desirous of a successful black QB." Sounds like conspiracy theory BS to me. Having said that, I don't think it's a racist statement. It may reveal the particular slant he puts on things and reveal his personal viewpoints. But it's far from racist. It's just flat-out wrong.
Other Limbaugh statements? I won't defend other things he says. Just like I wouldn't defend Bill Maher, Bill O'Reilly, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Glen Beck, Al Franken, etc, etc. They're all a bunch of nimrods. I don't find them interesting or entertaining.
@ Bludukedevil:
I hate to do this with you since Christian Laettner was my child hood hero. I almost fainted when he walked by me at Duke basketball camp. But, I think you ought to re-read my post. I was quoting Steve King. He is the one who said those things would happen if Obama was elected. The implication of course was that Obama is on the side of the terrorists. All because of his name. That, my friend, is racist. So of course Steve King would take issue with Goodell and think Limbaugh is as pure as sugar. He is a deranged as Limbaugh is. IF I had made hundreds of millions of dollars ridiculing half of the population I would be able to take responsibility for my actions when I was called on it. He accuses blacks of playing the victim card. When has Rush not played that card.
@ drat
are you serious? nothing i said was remotely racist. I cant speak for the other guys because I am "ignorant" to their beliefs, but I never said anything that even indicated anything remotely racist. What exactly dont I get? The fact that I was smart enough to read someone's quote, understand the context and then make an educated and logical conclusion based off of that? I think that defines intelligent you jackass. plus the fact that you used "stupid dumbcrap". Let's pretend that, that phrase is indeed gratically correct (far fetched I know), it would then be a double negative and indicate that I am indeed neither stupid or a dumcrap, whatever the hell a dumbcrap is.
Below is the video link to the entire questioning yesterday. In it you will hear a very accurate description of Limbaugh's McNabb comment. Then sir, if you are smart enough to understand, which I highly doubt you are, then you can get a better understanding of the truth. Of course you will most likely see the logic and the fact that I proved you and every other person on here wrong and then automatically call me a racist or something like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdCimSglD3c
I never seen rational people go insane so quickly. Its amazing how one person has so much impact and can make normal caring people go into a hateful manic frenzy.
@ Adam-Chris Scheftersen - I dig the way you came at me, that's how you debate an issue. You use direct referance and I like that, so let me explain "why" I said what I said.
When you made this comment,
"I've never agreed with Limbaugh's view of McNabb and I think he's terribly misguided on it. And I haven't seen any evidence of the NFL "being desirous of a successful black QB." Sounds like conspiracy theory BS to me. Having said that, I don't think it's a racist statement. It may reveal the particular slant he puts on things and reveal his personal viewpoints. But it's far from racist. It's just flat-out wrong."
The reason why it is a racists statement is because he utilized and referanced McNaab's ethnicity, by saying the NFL is desirous of a successful "BLACK" QB. No he didn't call him the n-word, or porch monkey, jungle bunny, jigaboo, ape or anything like that - but it is a racists statement. If I got up and said "Pete Carroll only recruit white's qb's because that's all I can win with", granted that's all he ever recruits @ quarterback, however it's a racists statement. Because I pointed out a skin color or ethnicity in an adverse way.
That is why I think people missed on the race thing, it's more than just calling someone the n-word, it is the context in which you refer to certain topics. He doesn't reflect comments towards blacks in a positive light, NEVER and that is why I said racists undertones. He does not reflect to black people in a positive light. He is nto an outright admitted racists, but he has closet tendencies! lol!!!!!
But I respect how you addressed the matter and I respect your opinion. Hope you see my side of the argument.
Conservatives want to label this as an example of the Liberal Media and Liberal-Controlled Conspiracy as having it's hand in everything. Liberals want to label this as an example of a racist biggot getting what he deserves.
It's all irrelevant. What's relevant is that Limbaugh poses a potential threat to the profitability of the league because of his divisiveness. Fergie and JLo pose no such threat.
The irony is that Limbaugh's potential ownership is/was derailed by capitalism, not some liberal agenda as he claims.
You're racist!
No, you are the racist!
Well, you are a racist for calling me a racist!
But, you said racist first!
See, you're so racist that you can't stop talking about racists!
Everybody, on both sides just shut up and quit whining!
On a more relevant topic, based on W/L records, the Rams, Titans, and Bucs are even worse than the Browns!! HAHA!!
The NFL has a policy that teams must interview a black coach before hiring anyone. So its not a stretch to think the same organization also wants blacks to do well in other parts of its business, including QB.
Its a racist policy in the first place and limbaugh pointed out the NFL and media are desirous for a black QB to do well.
A true comment to any objective observer.
Anybody who thinks the "crips and bloods" comment is racist is choosing to believe it is. If you heard the full thing (to get context) he's talking about how classy Tomlinson is.
In context, Rush was absolutely not being racist. You people that are so against Rush because of things you have no idea about, hence him being a racist, are simply a bunch of tools. Tools to those that want to push personal responsibility and self reliance out of this country. Ive never heard the man say one damn racist thing. He may be against you welfare recipients out there who happen to be be white and/or black trash. Ya know the people who have "terrible" back problems and collect a check from the government but are perfectly healthy enough to put a deck on the back of there house. We all know someone.
Ill say this though, it seems that everyone wants to play this race card to make their personal agendas a success. Hence, Roger. Maybe the reason why they succeed with this most of the time is because there is true discrepancies in culture in this country. The majority of black people follow a certain culture. That culture leads to the criminal statistics, poverty stats, welfare stats. But no this is just because of the white man keepin em down. Give me a break. This isnt the cause of skin color goof balls. White trash is no better of course. Rush is not against blacks, hes against perfectly capable people that have their hands out, all of the time! So maybe all of you calling him a racist fear the reality of the numbers/percentages. There is a culture in this country that should be attacked because its ruining the freaking country. Of course those who fall into certain "realistic" categories are gonna be pissed. Take your handout away and you have shit.
chapnasty says:
Dear god, please stop posting about Limbaugh. It's obvious that none of us will ever agree! You either hate the man or love him and neither side will ever convince the other that they are wrong, which is the beauty of this country. We have the freedom to think as we choose.
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Oh. My. Goodness. We actually agree on this point. And it's not even Halloween yet.
I don't think you read all my posts before, but I said his politics should not disqualify him from ownership. We disagreed over whether he'd made racist comments, and I gave examples that he has (but don't let's start that again!)
After you left the other discussion, some wacko who had no idea what I'd been talking about posted 20 paragraphs of Fergie and J-Lo lyrics to me. Until then, I didn't even know Fergie was part of that ownership group, and it's irrelevant.
My concern with Rush as a potential owner isn't his politics or comments. It's that he makes a living as a polarizing figure and will always stir up venomous controversy. That's not true of all conservatives nor of Fergie and J-Lo, who don't have any more involvement w/the Dolphins than showing up at games to party in a skybox. Rush wanted more input than that. And few businesses would want to take on the drama he could generate.
His chosen career has opened many doors for him, but it will close others. This is one of them. That's life. He and his fans will have to accept it.
Now, Chap, I'm getting out of here and going back to football. You should, too. It's not worth arguing about.
And Florio when it comes to politics cant you simply report instead of spinning these things or injecting your personal thoughts. You have, quite obviously, no clue about these things. And you sound like a true ignoramus, however, i believe you are just indirectly putting your ridiculous political beliefs into this site. I have a real honest suggestion for you. There are many people with a similiar mindset about these things as i have. If you want us to keep visiting this site I suggest shutting your opinionated mouth. Otherwise we will go to alternative sites.
@ Deb
Thank you kindly for not pointing out my last post that was filled with gramatical errrors, i just read it and felt like a jackass because i was calling someone a moron and i looked like one. I dont care anymore about Limbaugh or this thing. Florio opens it up because his comments arent getting past 30 and he needed the hits. And like always it works.
And I am ready to go back to football, no one debates me there haha
Rush Limbaugh is a bigot/racist for all non-white
people - he is a right wing conservative who is
so mad that a black man is in the white house he
can hardly stand it - he is of the ole school that
whites run the world which is far from the truth
-Rush is a complete racist no matter what he
says along with being the fattest idiot on talk
radio - i hate limbaugh,hannity,beck and oreilly-
they are all liars from the word go...and what it
makes crazy is they think they are right all the
time - which they are not ever right - propaganda
coming out of their mouths - enough said.........
Not too sure how you can compare J Lo and the Black eyed Peas to Limbaugh. It's laughable. That's congress for ya. Wasting taxpayer money on crap like this.
Limbaugh is a drug addicted, racist D'Bag that prepetuates lies and misinformation. One that advocates slavery and tells African American callers to take the bone out of their nose.
J'Lo and the Black Eyed peas? Not too sure what their "divisive comments" were. Pretty sure that it was nothing of the caliber of Rush.
the article says Goodell couldn't have been prepared to answer questions about Rush because he was there to talk about brain injuries. How could he not given Rush's massive drug use?
King's point is not valid at all. He's a pathetic sycophant to the popularity of an entertainer who isn't even a citizen of his state. If I was an Iowan I'd be ashamed of him.
The main point of interest is not just that Limbaugh's comments are divisive--which they are--but that they're divisive to the NFL itself. Many players detest Limbaugh and wouldn't want him as an owner. Having people like Fergie or J. Lo as part-owners won't cause the slightest blip in profits for anyone involved, and won't bother players in the least. Limbaugh, on the other hand, would be a major controversy, and would cause open conflict within the league itself.
Parse all the pop-music lyrics you lke--that's just the simple reality of it.
To try and equate the two on those issues of substance is absurd.
Limbaugh's made his bed, and he has to lay in it.
@Florio ...
Not getting into the Limbaugh debate again, but have a legal question:
Goodell went before a congressional committee to testify about head injuries in the league. When King started grilling him about Limbaugh v. Fergie as minority team owners, couldn't Goodell have said, "I was called here to talk about head injuries, and respectfully request that we stay on topic"?
Congress can't find him in contempt for refusing to discuss a matter outside the scope of the hearing, can they?
The NFL has and always will vet potential ownes who will have pivotal positions as such. The vetting did not begin with Limbaugh.
Mr Limbaugh said nothing racist, The media is the racist, they are trying to provoke people with lies. Lopez and the black eye pea are the racist and sexual perverts. But we don't hear that..do we...
I want Rush to buy the RAIDERS..now that would piss off ESPN...but they hate the Raiders anyway. So it is a great fit.
@shisnake:
They changed the words of Let's Get Retarded for the radio, because the original version is about smoking pot.
I think "Total Weasel" is about accurate.
That is what an overwhelming desire for political correctness leads to.
Yea anybody can see the NFL promotes togetherness by reading these comments. also I cant beleive that Florio insinuated that the bloods and crips are all black.
If shelia jackson lee and florio are on the same team, i think i'd rather be on limbaugh's.
Why dont we conservatives leave this websit to these left wing wussey's and see how they like it!
berni says i hate limbaugh,hannity,beck and oreilly-
they are all liars from the word go...and what it
makes crazy is they think they are right all the
time - which they are not ever right - propaganda
coming out of their mouths - enough said.........
What is truly scary is that there are actual people like berni who really believe this, no wonder our country is going to hell in a handbasket, so to speak, what ever happened to being objective, must be "ole school"
@ berni
You are a bigot, an idiot and someone who obviously has more racism hatred for Rush than anything. You are ignorant, dumb, disgraceful and above all else a dissapointment to the human race. If you are black you are an embarassment to black people and if you are white you are an embarassment to white people and that could go for whatever race you are. Your stupidity is whats wrong with this country.
@ redsquare
You couldnt be more wrong. You are clearly not as dumb as the above mentioned idiot, but just have a lack of general knowledge on the topic so you are just wrong. Last check was 7 players, not many, and they would all play for anyone if the price was right. And you are definately wrong about Limbaugh and his business impact on the league. 20 million+ people listen to him a week, those 20 would watch the Rams just to support Rush, now figure the Rams fans who would be excited to have something going on with their franchise. So again, You are not an idiot like the above mentioned moron, but just completely and utterly wrong in every sense of the word.