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Vikings-Packers one-liners

The negative reaction from Packers fans wasn’t enough to stop Vikings QB Brett Favre from leading his team to a 38-26 victory.

Said Vikings DT Pat Williams, who had a sack, “Everybody made it about Brett all week, but it was
all about our team. We don’t put nobody on top of nobody else around here.”

Vikings WR/KR Percy Harvin finished with 261 total yards, including a long touchdown catch.

Vikings DE Ray Edwards had one of the best games of his career, racking up two sacks, two tackles for losses and two passes defended.

Missed tackles and broken containment plagued the Vikings defense in the second half as they allowed the Packers back into the game.

Some of the six sacks allowed by the Packers were the result of poor blocking and others came because QB Aaron Rodgers held the ball too long.

Said Packers CB Charles Woodson, “That’s what we are. Right now we can’t win the big game.”

Although TE Spencer Havner had two touchdown catches, Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel feels the Packers missed TE Jermichael Finley.

Packers DT Johnny Jolly picked up a personal foul for headbutting Vikings RB Chester Taylor, helping extend a drive that wound up in a touchdown.  

Packers RB Ahman Green had two carries and moved ahead of Jim Taylor into first place on the franchise’s rushing attempts list.

For more on the Vikings and Packers, Mike Florio has the full Morning Aftermath right here

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38 Responses to “Vikings-Packers one-liners”
  1. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 10:54 AM

    This is for us packer fans that have a bit of enjoyment talking knowledgeable football and not for you trolls that as the Green Bay Press Gazette put it this morning. “throw insults annonymously while eating doritos in their parents basement. Just ignore them. they have no life and get aroused by getting a rise out of someone they don’t even know” Thank you Tom Perilisso. A great beat reproter. And he is only in his twenties. Good head on his shoulders.
    Anyway, Vikes-N-Favre must have been watching a replay of the 1998 game. This was a game that showed you exactly how good Minnesota can be (first half and last drive to seal the game) and a game that showed me a ton of the character of the Green Bay Packers. They were manhandled in that first half. The third quarter was magnificant. The ultimate result was a loss and there is a definite gap albeit a small one between these two teams. The season is by NO means over packer fans. Winning the division seems unlikely. Lets focus on getting one of the wild cards and maybe just maybe…by getting better and and getting more consistent on the OL with chemistry have a chance to see these guys once again at the dump and end their season as they did to us with a 8-8 record in 2004 with the aid of 4 Favre interceptions. green Bay has a good team. Minnesota is clearly better. Right now. Were not even half way done! 4-3?? Not too bad. Lets get to 5-3 half way through and were right in the thick of it.

  2. leatherneck says: Nov 2, 2009 11:35 AM

    Let’s say the Packers had kept Longwell and Favre. Instead of drafting Aaron Rodgers, the Packers had drafted Frank Gore or Roddy White. Instead of drafting Mason Crosby, the Packers had used that pick for a wide reciever.
    In 2007, the Packers went 13-3 and almost won it all. With the addition of a few more players who would have HELPED Brett Favre, the Packers would have won it all.
    Nice job, Packers. How any doofus gets the idea to replace Brett Favre, I have no idea.
    Aaron Rodgers is a good quarterback, but in order to draft him, the Packers threw away at least one Super Bowl, maybe more.

  3. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 2, 2009 11:52 AM

    Come on Suck, that’s the best you can do? Cut and paste the same exact thing into three different threads??!
    4-3 might not be THAT bad, but far worse problems were exposed yesterday. We can’t block, we can’t tackle. You may remember a man named Vince Lombardi, he said that blocking and tackling were the basic elements of football, and that everything else was built off of that.
    It was obvious to my Seahawk fan friends years ago, and it’s more than obvious now. TED THOMPSON DOES NOT HAVE THE TALENT TO FIELD A COMPETITIVE FOOTBALL TEAM. I’m still waiting for you to defend the man again after his legacy came crashing to a halt yesterday. Even you must see the truth now.
    Glad to hear Green got his yards though, he certainly deserves them after all the years of hard work he gave to the Packers.

  4. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 11:55 AM

    Leather,
    Favre cried and said he had nothing left to gove in March 2008. I wouldnt welcome him back either as the unquestioned starter. He was asked to compete for his job. Most likely to gauge where his commitment level was at after the crying and nothing left to give statements. He wasnt open to that. Ship him.

  5. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 2, 2009 12:10 PM

    leatherneck says:
    November 2, 2009 11:35 AM
    Let’s say the Packers had kept Longwell and Favre. Instead of drafting Aaron Rodgers, the Packers had drafted Frank Gore or Roddy White. Instead of drafting Mason Crosby, the Packers had used that pick for a wide reciever.
    In 2007, the Packers went 13-3 and almost won it all. With the addition of a few more players who would have HELPED Brett Favre, the Packers would have won it all.
    Nice job, Packers. How any doofus gets the idea to replace Brett Favre, I have no idea.
    Aaron Rodgers is a good quarterback, but in order to draft him, the Packers threw away at least one Super Bowl, maybe more.
    —————————–
    I’m not saying the Packers have always had the best draft choices, but… This is nothing more than hindsight revisionist-history BS. Rodgers was a great pick.
    You think they should’ve drafted a WR instead of Mason Crosby? OK. Let’s see.. Who was available at that point in round 6? Hmm. Oooh, Courtney Taylor was still on the board. Wow, what a steal that would’ve been. Or Jordan Kent. Damn, imagine how great they’d be right now if only they’d drafted Jordan Kent.
    And let’s not forget Brett waltzed his way out of town. He pushed the buttons, he manipulated the media, he made the bed. Favre’s divorce with Green Bay was his own doing, and anyone who tells you any different is high.
    Aikman put it well yesterday during the game when he said he didn’t think Favre wanted to be in Green Bay anymore. People can’t seem to get that through their skulls. He waited as long as he did so they’d have to choose. And he did it again last offseason. Yah, he retired. Right. Sure, he did. That’s why he asked the Jets to release him, right? You need to be a free agent to retire, don’t you? Isn’t that how it works?
    Favre’s a manipulator. He got exactly what he wanted. Unfortunately for him, he got it a year later.
    And I’m not even going to bother pointing out that you’re assuming the 2007 Packers would’ve beaten the undefeated Patriots. I would’ve loved to see them try, but I’m not convinced they would’ve done it.

  6. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 12:14 PM

    Beer,
    Green got his yards? Huh? Boy I am getting the impression Beer that you and your Seahawk fans know very little. Less then the rest of us. Thompson built Seattle’s Super Bowl team. If you don’t know that and if you think Green got his yards that makes you know very little. Very little. I am embarrased for you.

  7. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 12:16 PM

    Adam,
    I agree with everything you say. many people including myself forget that the undefeated Patriots were up next had they beaten the Giants.

  8. Mean Leroy Brown says: Nov 2, 2009 12:20 PM

    @Supersuckers
    Kinda like how the Packers Defense had nothing left to gove?
    thus, goving the game away.

  9. purpleguy says: Nov 2, 2009 12:27 PM

    Geez, after reading the articles and some of the posts, you’d think the sky was falling or something. I don’t usually make an effort to prop up Pack fans, but you’ve only lost to two teams, both of which have decent records.
    Sure the Vikes are better, and not just a little bit better. Yet the Pack is a playoff team, has a good QB and WRs, and a defense that can at least keep the team in the game. I’ll bet this team is in the playoffs as a wild card.

  10. Trench says: Nov 2, 2009 12:43 PM

    some of these posts/comments are lucicrous.
    I am a Vikings fan. lets start there.
    The Packers team is not bad, not even close to it. Ted Thompson is no where near an idiot. Aaron Rodgers was an AMAZING draft pick… what? 26th overall and he is putting up Peyton Manning numbers. I am already worried about what the Vikings team I cheer for week in and week out is going to have to put up with for the next 10-15 years with this Aaron Rodgers kid, its going to be like Favre all over again.
    yes, the Vikings won yesterday and swept the Packers out this year, so this year is one for the Vikings so far. The Packers are no where near out of this though, possible the Vikings could see them again in the playoffs, and next year the PAck could lead the division if they improve their offensive line and keep working on that 3-4 Defense. some of you sound like the Packers are in the same boat as Washington with your statements.
    once again, to agree with anyone that knows anything about the inner workings of the NFL. Ted Thompson didn’t have much of a choice on letting Favre go, and can you blame him for moving on with Aaron Rodgers… that kid is awsome… once again, he scares the hell out of me and what i can foresee having to endure watching the Vikings trying to stop him for years to come.
    Ask Steve Young how long a HOF quarterback’s shadow lingers over your head.
    I am glad the Vikings have Favre this year and its giving me some hope we can get the big silver football. But Packers fans should definately be overjoyed that they first of all got to enjoy Favre for all those years and second of all they should be hyped over this new QB they got now named Aaron Rodgers, he took a BEATING! and kept throwing that ball and almost brought them back from dead in that game. cheers to Rodgers.
    once again, from a Vikings fan.

  11. Favredaze says: Nov 2, 2009 12:44 PM

    Are you serious Adam-Chris you are the one that is high why should a quaterback who built the organization back into prominece have to compete for a job, and would it have really been a fair competion, and further more he was under contract the Packers could have forced him to compete or ride the bench, but they traded him. Theses are the facts not opinon.
    Yes Rodgers was a good pick, but name another good offensive play maker pick that Ted made while Brett was there. It was only Greg Jennings, and the o-line picks he made look awesome don’t they( Daryn Jason Spitz, Allen Barbre) so it is not revisionist bs it is the facts. Ted has not made the team very good.This O-line is much the same line they had in 2007. They did not give up that may sacks that year.
    I think you McCarthy/Thompson lovers are gonna fall on your face when it is all over. Your great pick looks like he will have a hard time having a winning record again this season. Great numbers except the one that matters most. All these Rodgers lovers are the same ones who hates Romo. Romo has a winning record as a QB and his team is always in the mix. Rodgers team is gonna have a hard time beating out Dallas/Philadelphia and Atlanta and maybe even the Bears for the Wild Card spot so BOO on HATERS BOO the man that gave you a voice in the first place cause if Favre had never came to Green Bay Green Bay would still be competing with Oakland as the worst franchise BOO BOO the only thing missing is the truth schefterson the who. Cause the cring is about to begin in Green Bay.The who is McCarthy and Thompson
    BOO WHO, BOO WHO the Vikings have the best player in Green Bay Packer history and he is leading them to the playoffs and maybe a Super Bowl. BOO WHO we made a mistake. BOO WHO come back Brett we miss you BOO WHO. Fire Ted and Mike and come home Brett. BOO WHO(let me type in case you can’t pick it up this is sarcasm). We will cheer you at Canton cause we are traitors and have no spine to stand up to the tyrants(Ted & Mike) and put the trust where it belongs in Brett.BOO WHO WHO

  12. Bob Loblaw says: Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM

    Supersuckers, I’m hearing Jim Mora says “playoffs?” over and over in my head when you talk about the Packers getting into the postseason.
    In some years, yes 9-7 and even 8-8 could get you there. But this year there are too many really bad teams (Lions, Browns, Bucs, Chiefs, Raiders, Rams, etc.) for anyone with less than 10 wins to make it — too many easy wins for all the other teams to inflate their records.
    As it is the Packers are still in a dogfight with the Bears for second place in the North (you have to go to Chicago where they will be motivated to avoid the sweep). Plus the Falcons, the second place team between 49ers and Cardinals, and the second and third place teams between the Giants, Eagles and Cowboys, will be fighting with the Packers and Bears for two wild card playoff spots.
    Besides the game in Chicago, the Packers still have tough games against the Cowboys, 49ers, Ravens, Steelers and Cardinals.
    Winning most of those games is a lot to expect from a team that has major problems on its offensive line, sub-par play at RB, injuries at WR and TE, no playmaker in the kick return game, and a defense that just gave up 38 points at home.

  13. footballrulz says: Nov 2, 2009 1:23 PM

    @ Supersuckers & Beercheese
    Calm down guys, People are going to think we have a split fan base or something.
    @purpleguy & trench
    Thanks for having a little class. I respectfully disagree though. I think we have the talent on the roster to be a playoff team but something’s not right. Keep making the same mistakes & can’t seem to beat a good team. Tough schedule coming up.
    Good job Adam
    Favredaze–your name says it all
    Supersuckers-where is Chickenfoot?

  14. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 1:37 PM

    Bob,
    Thank you for pointing out things that are evry obvious. That being said Green Bay can compete with all of those teams just like they competed with a very good Minnesota team that some say could win the NFC. I am under the assumption that as of now it will take ten wins to get you in a tiebreaker for a NFC wild card spot. Making conference games of the upmost importance.

  15. EndOfStory says: Nov 2, 2009 2:33 PM

    Here is exactly what happened.
    Brett Favre took the field and done knocked the CHEESE of Ted Thompson’s cracker.
    END OF STORY

  16. leatherneck says: Nov 2, 2009 3:03 PM

    Adam-Chris: “You think they should’ve drafted a WR instead of Mason Crosby? OK. Let’s see.. Who was available at that point in round 6? Hmm. Oooh, Courtney Taylor was still on the board. Wow, what a steal that would’ve been. Or Jordan Kent. Damn, imagine how great they’d be right now if only they’d drafted Jordan Kent.”
    —————————————————————–
    Marques Colston was still on the board. How about him?
    My point is, the Packers ran out of receivers this year. Generally speaking, the Packers did not give Favre enough weapons on offense, especially since the Super Bowl victory. Running back is the main problem.
    The Packers have acted for years like Favre was just going to win games and everybody else just had to be okay.

  17. leatherneck says: Nov 2, 2009 3:12 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is great? Comparable to Peyton Manning?
    LOL.
    Rodgers is a good fantasy quarterback, but he isn’t good in the clutch.
    It doesn’t matter anyway. Driver is aging. Rodgers and Jennings can’t carry the team by themselves. There is just not enough talent around Rodgers.

  18. CanadianVikingFan says: Nov 2, 2009 5:04 PM

    I’m very happy about Minnesota Vikings win. They played exceptionally on Special Teams, infact the whole year except for 1 or 2 games. The offense got the job done when they were needed.
    The defence again played well the first half and then what happened again. Blew the 2nd half. It should have been a blow out. But credit to the packers offense. Aaron rodgers is a good QB but he is very poor when the game is on the line, great recievers..
    Overall it was a good game.

  19. Gordon Tremeshko says: Nov 2, 2009 5:17 PM

    @ Bob,
    I agree, and despite what Sucker says, I don’t think you were pointing out the obvious because I don’t think too many people are looking realistically at the remaining schedules.
    Looking at the remaining NFC North schedules, and the way the teams are playing, I think it is realistic to see the Vikings at 13-3, the Packers at 9-7 and the Bears at 8-8. I don’t know that 9-7 will cut it for the Packers, and as they showed yesterday, they aren’t necessarily going to win “must win” games.

  20. sand0 says: Nov 2, 2009 6:01 PM

    The Packers have played 7 games. 3 of those games were against the Bengals and Vikings, two teams that have proven they can beat good teams. In those 3 games, the Packers looked typically over matched. They were in the games, but still ultimately lost pretty convincingly. And in all three games they were gifted some points as well.
    They played on game against the Bears. I thought the Bears overall looked slightly better but threw 4 horrendous picks. Despite that, the Packers still needed a late bomb to win. But they did win and did earn the win when it counted so I’ll give them kudos on that.
    The other 3 games were against teams with a combined 2 wins which would be only one win if not for the fact that the Rams played the Lions last week and somebody had to win.
    My point is that the Packers really haven’t done anything this year to prove that they can beat the Bears away, Steelers, Ravens, Cowboys, or to necessarily prove that they can beat the Panthers or 49ers or other games that perhaps they are supposed to win.
    To me this Packers team looks like a club that will finish the season with 7 to 9 wins most likely and could very well miss the playoffs. Accepting that now will stop your hearts from being slowly broken over the next 5 games.

  21. Favredaze says: Nov 2, 2009 6:58 PM

    You are correct my name says it all. I have been a fan since I knew what football was. I have a picture of me in 1988 in a Lynn Dickey Hutch uniform standing beside my brother in his Danny White Dallas uniform. So I was a Packer fan before Brett, but I am starting to question whether or not I want to associate with these fans who boo such a important part of their franchise history, and I have heard enough of this we boo the opponents. The fans have never booed anyone as badly as they booed one of the faces on the Green Bay Packers Mount Rushmore.So you keep on being classless and a moron and I will be the type of fan that has some sense and class, cause I ain’t eating what Ted and Mike and the media in Wisconsin is feeding yall

  22. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 2, 2009 7:26 PM

    footballrulz says:
    @ Supersuckers & Beercheese
    Calm down guys, People are going to think we have a split fan base or something.
    _____________________________________
    Really? I have no idea why they would think that…
    Still waiting for your reply Supersuck.. Tell me how this loss wasn’t directly Thompson’s fault and how he’s actually the greatest…

  23. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 2, 2009 7:36 PM

    Gordon Tremeshko says:
    Looking at the remaining NFC North schedules, and the way the teams are playing, I think it is realistic to see the Vikings at 13-3, the Packers at 9-7 and the Bears at 8-8. I don’t know that 9-7 will cut it for the Packers, and as they showed yesterday, they aren’t necessarily going to win “must win” games.
    ____________________________________
    Couldn’t agree more. I also see 9-7 being the best that can be hoped for in this situation.. I guess we’ll see if that’s good enough for a wildcard or not…
    Favredaze says:
    …cause I ain’t eating what Ted and Mike and the media in Wisconsin is feeding yall
    ____________________________________
    It seems no one else is anymore either. Not even Thompson’s own personal PFT representative has been willing to defend him on here today.
    It took long enough for the reality of how bad things are to hit most fans smack in the face. Better late than never I guess. Now it’s time to work on coming back together as fans and healing the wounds Ted has caused to the fanbase.

  24. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 10:44 PM

    beer,
    i left a couple lengthy replies that PFt just didn’t post for one reason or another. Consider yourself lucky. If you would not have been embarrased I would have again….been embarrased for you.

  25. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 2, 2009 11:51 PM

    leatherneck says:
    November 2, 2009 3:03 PM
    Marques Colston was still on the board. How about him?
    My point is, the Packers ran out of receivers this year. Generally speaking, the Packers did not give Favre enough weapons on offense, especially since the Super Bowl victory. Running back is the main problem.
    The Packers have acted for years like Favre was just going to win games and everybody else just had to be okay.
    —————————
    Like I said, hindsight revisionist history BS. It’s easy to make good draft picks 3 or 4 years down the road, isn’t it? If Marques Colston was such a sure-fire pick, why was he drafted in the 7th round? I have no idea why you’re harping on the drafting of a kicker over another WR. They had Driver and Jennings. Favre passed for 4000+ yards, didn’t he?
    Go ahead and rail on Thompson for bad picks, but Marques Colston over Mason Crosby in the 6th round four years after the fact? That’s weak. Rail on Justin Harrell. That pick looked bad from day one.
    And the Packers ran out of receivers this year? Really? Lay off the jimson weed. They had two receivers (their 4th and 5th) get injured recently and their pass-catching tight end also got injured. Do you expect each team to carry 7 quality WRs? Do you expect every team to absorb every injury without having to make any roster moves to backfill?
    I don’t fault Thompson too much for the weakness at RB. Grant came in during the 2nd half of 2007 and outperformed nearly everyone in the NFL, including Peterson. In 2008 he held out and then had nagging injuries, but still put up 1200 yards rushing behind a relatively weak offensive line. His average was down, but the assumption was he’s still going to be OK. Again this year, the O-line blows chunks. I doubt they’ll draft a RB high in the next draft because they need to address O-line and probably the aging secondary.
    I do fault Thompson for the O-line. Anyway, there’s plenty of blame to be laid on Thompson, but another WR over Crosby? I’m still scratching my head over that.

  26. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 3, 2009 12:35 AM

    Supersuckers says:
    beer,
    i left a couple lengthy replies that PFt just didn’t post for one reason or another. Consider yourself lucky. If you would not have been embarrased I would have again….been embarrased for you.
    ____________________________________
    Yes, because my being proven right this weekend was SOO embarrassing, right? I also don’t know what you mean by “again”, as you haven’t embarrassed me yet, but we’ll let that one go.
    I told you last week that if we win I couldn’t be happier, but if we lose, at least there’s some comfort in knowing that it should be the end of the line for our accountant that calls himself a GM.
    Well guess what, that time has come. I’m not any happier about the loss than you are, and knowing all these Viking fans we’ve been ripping on all year getting the last laugh just makes it that much more painful. All we can do now is make sure the proper measures are taken to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening again, and no, that doesn’t include getting a couple more FBs.
    Now is the time to repair the damage that’s been done over the last five years. Either you’re here or you aren’t. If your loyalty continues to be toward one man and not the success of the entire team, you’re no different than Fan_of_Four or Majik, and you are NOT a Packer fan.

  27. Supersuckers says: Nov 3, 2009 8:43 AM

    Beer Cheese,
    When I say I am embarrased for you it means you have embarrased yourself. My intentions are never to embarrass anyone. For you to say Green got his yards and to not acknowledge Thompson built a NFC Champion in Seattle is such poor knowledge and I was embarrased FOR you for YOUR lack of knowledge. The season isn’t over BeerCheese and I would call your abandoment of your team after 7 games and a winning 4-3 record very “NOT a Packer fan” like. My loyalty is to the entire packer organization. If they go down and beat Tampa they are 5-3 at the midpoint and right in the thick of the wild card hunt. That would put them on pace for 10-6 and son, no one is getting fired if they go 10-6. get used to Ted. He’s going to be around for awhile. Thankfully.

  28. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 3, 2009 12:00 PM

    # Supersuckers says:
    Thompson built a NFC Champion in Seattle…. The season isn’t over BeerCheese and I would call your abandoment of your team after 7 games and a winning 4-3 record very “NOT a Packer fan” like… That would put them on pace for 10-6 and son, no one is getting fired if they go 10-6… get used to Ted. He’s going to be around for awhile. Thankfully.
    ____________________________________
    You are so wrong, on so many different fronts. I’ll just address them individually.
    Seattle wasn’t an NFC (I still say Super Bowl) Champion until AFTER Ted left, and his successor picked up some decent free agents to fill gaps. You might remember that term, free agent, but only if you’ve watched other teams besides Green Bay lately.
    Oh yes, 4-3 is just awesome right? Actually, by Ted standards, ANY winning record is impressive. Can’t argue that one.
    I’m not abandoning my team. If anything, YOU are by wanting to keep losing. I’m still a fan, I just have a grip on reality and I don’t call a cowpie a steak.. I WANT the Pack to be successful and competitive. The facts have shown there is no way that can happen with Ted at the helm, so I say let’s fix the problem and maybe start winning again already.
    Finally, even IF we manage 10-6 with no line, consistent defense or running game, don’t assume your idol won’t still be fired after the disaster he caused on Sunday. What was Sherman’s record when he was fired as GM again??
    Also, I meant to say Green got his CARRIES, not his yards. Two carries for 1 yard isn’t exactly the stuff of legends, though it is pretty much the norm when you’re that old and running behind Ted’s famous O-Line. Poor guy. He came back wanting just to help, and now he’s gonna get killed.

  29. Supersuckers says: Nov 3, 2009 12:26 PM

    Beer,
    Ted doesnt play the games. He built the team that does. He left for Green Bay the season precursing their super bowl team! Come on Beer. I am embarrased for you AGAIN for that ridiculous comment that even the most brain challenged person would find to be stupid. Whether he sits up in a booth for that year in Seattle or not would not have made a differance. The work was done.
    4-3 is not awesome but you were writing the season off. Anyone that writes a season off at 4-3 needs their fanhood and knowledge questioned. Again, I am embarrased for you.
    Sherman was fired for his mishandling of the teams finances not the teams record (which was quite good) I thought I gave you that lesson previously. You know, the one on what being a GM entails? You don’t seem to understand that Ted had to clean up Sherman’s mess and was competitive on the field very soon after cleaning up that horrific mess. Now they are in great shape financially.
    I hope you MEAN to say alot of different things that just come out incorrectly in your posts. I don’t know if you get embarrased of your posts. You should be. But if not i am here and I will be embarrased for you in the future as it warrants.

  30. leatherneck says: Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM

    Re: Drafting a WR over Crosby
    My point is the Packers could have kept Longwell, not drafted Crosby, and used the Crosby pick for somebody–like a WR or RB– to help the QB.
    Whatever, though, man. I’m glad you and TT have it all figured out.

  31. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 3, 2009 4:16 PM

    Supersuck-
    I really don’t care how you feel about me. The fact remains whether you admit it or not: Thompson sucks. He is a glorified accountant, who may have this team in “great shape financially”, but still has NOT put them in a position to be successful on the field where it matters. In fact, he was just responsible for what was arguably their most humiliating loss in fifty years.
    As discussed, fans want their team to win. History has shown us that any team led by Thompson CAN NOT win on a regular basis (though they can a year later-again if they pick up the FAs he despises), therefore it follows that anyone who supports Thompson finds losing acceptable, and hence is not a fan.
    Now, feel free to pick apart individual statements while ignoring the facts, quote irrelevant stats and claim you’re embarrassing me when you aren’t. Maybe claim you’ve made a few more scathing arguments that for some reason don’t show up on here too. It won’t make the truth go away.
    Fans of a team want to win.
    Thompson=losses (but at least good financial shape).
    Fan of Thompson=NOT a fan of team.
    I hope that’s plain and simple enough for you, though I have no doubt at all you’ll find some way to ignore that too. You’re embarrassed for me? I’m embarrassed for you. It can’t be easy ignoring the truth that’s right in front of your eyes.

  32. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 3, 2009 5:59 PM

    leatherneck says:
    November 3, 2009 12:40 PM
    Re: Drafting a WR over Crosby
    My point is the Packers could have kept Longwell, not drafted Crosby, and used the Crosby pick for somebody–like a WR or RB– to help the QB.
    Whatever, though, man. I’m glad you and TT have it all figured out.
    ——————————
    Yeah, I’m just licking Teddy’s boots over here. You caught me. If you’re going to slam the man, at least hit him where he’s vulnerable. Kickers? Really? That’s the weak spot of this team? Their kicker?
    And with a 6th or 7th round RB or WR they would’ve won that 2007 NFC championship and possibly the Super Bowl, right? Is that your argument?
    Sure, 6th and 7th round picks work out on occasion. But more often than not they’re not even playing football 3 years after being drafted. Look at those guys drafted after Crosby. How many are still in the league? How many of those are actually contributing? The Vikings had two picks after Crosby was selected. Tyler Thigpen and Chandler Williams. Are they tearing up the league yet?
    And let’s not forget… Crosby led the league in scoring in 2007. It’s been downhill since, but he looked like a good kicker after year 1.

  33. leatherneck says: Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM

    Dude, man. I was saying your kicking situation was good before your team got rid of Longwell. Mason Crosby is not an upgrade over Longwell. Your team wasted its time replacing Longwell.
    But it benefited the Vikings, so thank you.

  34. Supersuckers says: Nov 3, 2009 11:15 PM

    Beer Cheese,
    they are 4-3. Until I watch a press conference which announces Beer Cheese Soup as a GM of any team…including pop warner football….your opinion of Thompson is a ignorant one. You know nothing. You THINK you know. But you do not know. You Know absolutely zilch as to what it takes to exist in a man’s world like the NFL. Neither do I. STOP passing judgement. You keep embarrasing yourself with your insecure and ignorant statements of Thompson knows nothing. you know what? Your clain to fame is “Beer Cheese soup” on a ridiculous fan site. Thompson’s? running the show of one of 32 NFL teams. You are jealous. If you were to sit in his office you would be crying for your mommy. Ted Thompson made something of himself. You? Well you are Beer Cheese Soup and I am Supersuckers on a fan site. Go apply for the job Beer Cheese!!! I will consider you a nobody unless you get hired by a NFL team and it will be your concession to the fact that you know nothing..UNLESSS your application is reviewed and you are hired.

  35. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 4, 2009 10:25 AM

    leatherneck says:
    November 3, 2009 8:10 PM
    Dude, man. I was saying your kicking situation was good before your team got rid of Longwell. Mason Crosby is not an upgrade over Longwell. Your team wasted its time replacing Longwell.
    But it benefited the Vikings, so thank you.
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    The book is still out on Mason Crosby versus Ryan Longwell. In 2007, I’d say Crosby was the better kicker. Slightly lower percentage than Longwell, but much bigger leg and more accurate from distance.
    Since then, Longwell’s been better. But Crosby’s still right around 80%, which is a very good percentage historically for kickers. Longwell’s been better in the clutch, though. And Longwell has the advantage of kicking half his games inside.
    Given all the factors (and the benefit of hindsight), I don’t fault Thompson on this one. He saved the money Longwell wanted and got a decent replacement. You can’t keep all your players, and high-paid kickers are a luxury you can’t always afford.
    And if you want to point out Thompson’s mistakes, this move doesn’t even make the top 20.

  36. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 4, 2009 1:15 PM

    Supersuck says-
    I just LOVE Thompson, I hope he keeps his job forever no matter how much we lose as a result, and at least he’s a better GM than some guy named Beer Cheese Soup would be. I also can’t make a consistent argument, so I say everything anyone else says is a “concession” that I’m right.
    ___________________________________
    Again, it’s not about what you or I would do. You and I are not NFL GM material. Clearly, neither is Thompson, but nonetheless.
    It’s pointless to compare apples to oranges. You need to compare the man to other GM’s, not some loudmouthed fans who post on a blog. Derek Anderson is a better QB than either of us too, and Barbre is (probably) a better blocker. That doesn’t make them good when compared to other NFL players though, you know, the standard they SHOULD be measured against??
    Same with Thompson. Now that Millen’s gone, he’s the worst GM in the league. Yet you say that’s okay, because he’d still be better than some fans with absolutely no NFL management experience. What the hell difference does that make??
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    And if you want to point out Thompson’s mistakes, this move doesn’t even make the top 20.
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    Ain’t that the truth…

  37. Supersuckers says: Nov 4, 2009 1:57 PM

    Beer Cheese,
    99 percent of the opinions us know nothings slob onto this site is based on hindsight. Wouldn’t hindsight be a wonderful tool for a GM? Or anyone in life?

  38. Supersuckers says: Nov 4, 2009 2:43 PM

    Beer,
    I honestly question whether or not your kidding. calling a guy the worst GM by someone who is a nobody with no knowledge vs. his peers that say he is doing a great job and even voted him executive of the year once. Hmmm. who am I going to believe??? NFL Executives or a NFL know nothing (as am I) named Beer Cheese Soup.

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