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Week Eight Morning Aftermath: Vikings 38, Packers 26

Two minutes into the second half, this rivalry game at Lambeau Field that began with a barrage of boos had the same feel as the 1998 Monday night Randy Moss coming-out party, which ended with a final score of 37-24 thanks to some garbage time points from the Packers. 

But then the game had the same feel as Ravens-Vikings in Week Six, during which the Minnesota defense left the building early and but for a missed field goal by Baltimore would have sustained a historic collapse.

To their credit, the Vikings held it together this time around after their 24-3 bulge quickly became a 24-20 margin with plenty of time left.

Armed with a short field thanks to another long kickoff return from rookie Percy Harvin, Brett Favre took the Vikings 38 yards in seven plays, pushing the lead to 31-20 and regaining some much-needed momentum, albeit on a touchdown throw to Jeff Dugan that arguably was not a completed pass.

But the Packers quickly stormed back down the field, with deceptively fast quarterback Aaron Rodgers turning another run for his life into a sideline sprint that ultimately covered 35 yards and put the ball at the Minnesota 15.  Three plays later, receiver Greg Jennings reeled in a “he did what?“-style catch.  Even with a failed two-point conversion, the game was back on at 31-26, with more than 10 minutes to play.

And that’s when it looked as if the Vikings would finally blow the lead.  Their next drive resulted in a punt, and in two plays the Packers moved from their own 19 to the Minnesota 35, thanks in part to a very questionable roughing the passer penalty on Vikings defensive end Ray Edwards.

But a key calf-roping display from Jared Allen, who had three sacks on the day, helped force a field goal try that sailed just to the right.

Perhaps feeling a little of the same divine intervention that blew Steve Hauschka’s would-be game-winner a hair left 14 days earlier, Lord Favre took his team 59 yards in four plays for the decisive touchdown.  Of course, Adrian Peterson’s 44-yard sideline rumble with a short pass had a lot to do with the outcome, but Favre’s willingness to throw in the red zone on third down with a five-point lead became a 16-yard, game-clincing touchdown to Bernard Berrian at a time when Vikings fans surely were sensing that coach Brad Childress was once again wearing his airplane wig and skirt and playing for a field goal and an eight-point lead, that could have resulted in overtime.

Instead, the bulge was pushed to 12 with 3:48 to play, and this one was finally over.

“It was very disappointing — no matter what team they were,” linebacker Nick Barnett said after the game, per the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.  “We’re disappointed in the loss.  We had shots there to win this game
and we let it slip right out of our hands.  We’re disappointed.  If
you’re not, if you don’t feel this all in your gut and in your heart
and in your gut right now in this locker room, something’s wrong with
you.  I feel like someone just kicked me in the stomach.

“To
be honest it doesn’t bother me at all as far as him being Favre and him
celebrating.  It bothers me because he’s celebrating, no matter who the
quarterback was.  He played a hell of a game, but we had an opportunity
to win this game.  Disappointing.  I can’t express it through words right
now.”

The mood in the visitors’ locker room was obviously brighter, with Favre paying homage to The Chris Farley Show in describing the moment.

The two-game swing puts the Vikings firmly in control over the NFC North.  At 7-1 and with the Packers and Bears knotted at 4-3, Minnesota gets a week off followed by three straight home games, against the 1-7 Lions, the 2-5 Seahawks, and then the Bears.

So by the end of November, the Vikings could be 10-1, with the only question being whether they can nudge out the Saints for the top seed in the NFC playoff field.

For the Packers, the one-game-over-.500 record through eight weeks pales in comparison to the fact that Favre, who made no secret about his desire to beat the Packers once they didn’t welcome him back from his First Annual Unretirement, swept his former team in what likely will be his final NFL season.  (We think.) 

And so whatever hold G.M. Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy had on their jobs is now a little more tenuous, and a failure to rebound given the high preseason expectations could make 2010 a make-or-break year for the guys who currently run the show at Lambeau.

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  1. Notoroius B.U.G. says: Nov 2, 2009 7:44 AM

    “albeit on a touchdown throw to Jeff Dugan that arguably was not a completed pass.”
    Florio – explain yourself…as all the commenters on your initial post have pointed out, Dugan’s TD was a catch…

  2. sand0 says: Nov 2, 2009 7:49 AM

    I am kind of disappointed. I come to these threads looking for lists of Packers excuses and I find none. How did the Vikes beat you?

  3. bustabloodvessel says: Nov 2, 2009 7:50 AM

    Just watched the highlights, and Dugan’s touchdown was for sure a catch. Florio just doesn’t want to give credit to the Vikings for lambasting the Pack at home. I watched every play of the game, and I NEVER thought the Packers would come back and win. Packers fans should realize now that they are not even close to being on the same level as the Vikings, and don’t even start about how many times Green Bay has won the championship, or how often the Vikings “choke”, it’s all about right now. As sad as it is, right now that was the closest thing Green Bay will get to a super bowl this year, at least we do have a shot. Even one of the announcers said that yesterday.
    in a bit….

  4. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 2, 2009 7:55 AM

    And so whatever hold G.M. Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy had on their jobs is now a little more tenuous, and a failure to rebound given the high preseason expectations could make 2010 a make-or-break year for the guys who currently run the show at Lambeau.
    ***********************************************
    That would be the case on any other Team but the Packers have an even bigger idiot as President.
    I know a lot of Packer fans who are on hiatus and wont’ be back until those clowns have been removed from the building.
    Meanwhile we have Favre’s outstanding MVP like play to carry us through.

  5. PerryMason says: Nov 2, 2009 8:00 AM

    Gimmie an S…S
    Gimmie a W….W
    Gimmie an E….E
    Gimmie an E….E
    Gimmie a P….P
    What’s that spell….SWEEP
    What’s that spell….SWEEP
    What’s that spell….SWEEP
    Yaaaaaaaaa

  6. Vikes-N-Favre says: Nov 2, 2009 8:09 AM

    LOL @ Nick Barnett. They never had a shot to win this game. The closest they came was when they had a 3-0 lead early in the 1st quarter. From there on, the Vikings owned them.
    Florio, you have a site dedicated to the NFL, but do you even know NFL rules? The pass was completed to Dugan, he took 2 steps, the ball hit at least the tip of the endzone, and once that happens, its a TD. That was a TD by far over the Roy Williams TD for Dallas. Learn the rules before spewing shit on two different threads on here.

  7. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 2, 2009 8:14 AM

    Sando said:
    I am kind of disappointed. I come to these threads looking for lists of Packers excuses and I find none. How did the Vikes beat you?
    *********************************************
    How did they beat them ?
    How did they fail to sack a 40 year old QB once in two games ?
    How was it that they only managed 47 yards of total offense in the first half ?
    How did their QB get sacked 14 times in two games ?
    How can they still worship at the feet of Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy ?
    These are just a few of the questions I would like answered.

  8. PervyHarvin says: Nov 2, 2009 8:35 AM

    Where to start? Florio, nice try at trying to make some chaos,but Dugan clearly had a touchdown. You are right about that bullshit roughing the passer call on Edwards! He left his feet before Rodgers released and hit at the throw, homer call to say the least. Didn’t matter I guess.
    Brian Robison,thanks for playing the turd that halted a real beat down! We know you were a big track star in high school chip,but in the NFL you go down! You doing your best Percy imitation was a joke dude,made me throw shit like a caged ape!
    Percy,my favorite player, what can I say bro?You are a f@cking stud and a big part of our team and it’s success.I’m so glad we took you and not that Blind Side jerk off Oher!!!! We got good value with Loadholt in second round anyhow. You and AD on the same team is scary and I’m sure people are realizing that!!
    Favre, I am so glad you could shut the Packer and other haters mouths! You are great man,the captain of our Viking ship! You are one of the best yet,even at 40. You win with class and Green Bay faithful should take note of that. The press conference after the game didn’t attack the booing haters at all…maybe! Did anyone see Deion Sanders on NFL Networks bit on what Favre said in the PC but what he really meant?? Had me choking on beer,was the funniest shit ever! Might want to look into that Florio,be a good story.
    Nick Barnett, STFU!!!! You make it sound like you lost the way we did in Pittsburgh. You came back,but you couldn’t stop us. Where was the winning chances puke?? Be it AD or Favre, in the end,you got run over. Take some lessons from the Goat Roper on how to play D like an animal!
    To the good Pack fans, good game! Got a lil hairy for a while! To the big mouth losers who will say you lost because of this and that – Kiss off and bring it!!

  9. gregjennings says: Nov 2, 2009 8:38 AM

    As a life long Packer fan I’m reallt dissapointed at the boos Favre got….totally classless. I was hopeing Favre would come out to Ted Thompson sucks chants.

  10. hk94 says: Nov 2, 2009 8:47 AM

    Fan_Of_Four, you keep bashing Packers fans for worshiping “at the feed of Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy”, but I don’t think I know of a single Packers fan that does. I know this is hard for some people to grasp, but we can still cheer for our team WHILE hating the idiots that run it. It’s called sticking with your team during ups and downs.

  11. Wiscdave says: Nov 2, 2009 8:48 AM

    Your bias is getting worse.
    And there is no arguably about Dugan’s TD.

  12. Bob Loblaw says: Nov 2, 2009 8:49 AM

    Statistically, teams that turn the ball over two times more than the opponent lose about 90 percent of the time. I’d imagine that road teams that turn the ball over two more times lose about 95 percent of the time. And road team that turn the ball over two more times and still win by double digits happens about 1 or 2 percent of the time.
    The Vikings had two turnovers — both fluky mistakes by linemen (the center snapped in error and a DE fumbled a squib kickoff return). The Packers did not turn the ball over.
    So the Packers did defy the odds. They accomplished something they had a bout a 1-in-50 or a 1-in-100 chance of doing.
    Congratulations!!!!!!

  13. willmose says: Nov 2, 2009 9:00 AM

    I am not a Viking fan (I am blush a Rams fan). The Green Bay fans showed that their heads are really made of cheese. The best QB in team history returns and is booed! No class at all. GB fans pop those cheese things out of your class, show some respect for the QB that was your franchise for 16 years. Put some For Sale signs in the Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy’s yards. It is time for them to move on. Sorry, but Aaron Rodgers can’t carry Favre’s jock.

  14. MrHumble says: Nov 2, 2009 9:01 AM

    Florio….to make an initial “observation” that perhaps Dugan’s TD should have been reviewed in fine…..by now though, you have undoubtedly reviewed it several times as has the rest of the world and he caught the ball prior to crossing the goal line, had control, crossed the goal line with 3 steps and only after then going to the ground did the ball appear to come out. To continue to try and create controversy where there clearly is none, is sensationalism and not journalism……you can certain do better than that, or is it the lawyer in you that makes you do it, create confusion and fabrication with the only goal to create doubt??

  15. cfuska says: Nov 2, 2009 9:06 AM

    Two things I hope not to see in comments on this story.
    1) Packers fans complaining about bad calls and anything else that lost them the game. Their defense lost them that game and Favre was just out for blood. Sorry Pack.
    2) Minnesota fans ripping on Rodgers. How many picks did he throw yesterday? None. He had great numbers, unfortunately his defense just let up too many pionts and Grant couldn’t really get the running game going. Rodgers is a classy guy all the way.
    It was a great game, but Minnesota just outplayed the Pack. Green Bay fans, don’t distress. You have a great QB who will more than likely lead you to a Super Bowl some day. I just don’t think it will be this year.
    This is coming from a non-biased Steeler fan. And by the way, the Steelers only won this week because the refs gave them the game….. oh wait, sorry, I guess we can’t use that one this week :)

  16. marshall70 says: Nov 2, 2009 9:13 AM

    It had to have been tough for GB fans to have Favre come back and watch him beat the Packers. I respect the Packer fans who still appreciate what Favre did for their organization all those years.
    I still say Al Harris is a cheap shot artist even if he is a good DB.
    Aaron Rodgers is a good QB.
    There was just a lack of class shown in GB yesterday by many of their fans. TT-MM caused this whole thing to play out. The TT-MM brotherhood of idiocy let down the GB faithful, not Favre.

  17. green&bold says: Nov 2, 2009 9:18 AM

    there really isn’t much to say regarding excuses. The Vikings are better. If you switched qbs, the vikings would still be better. Its not about brett favre or aaron rodgers or the ownership or coach. The vikings have a superior D-line and a superior O-line. Sadly the packers would be classified as “above average” while the Vikings would be “championship caliber” at this point.
    All I can say is that very few packer fans worship TT or MM. But we stick with our team. So revel in your victory and thump your chests.

  18. mixman34 says: Nov 2, 2009 9:21 AM

    Not only was Dugans catch a TD…. why not mention the fact that the refs stole a TD from the Vikings Defense in the first quarter. How bout that one huh Florio?! Dugans catch was clearly a TD, what is the deal?!!?

  19. bustabloodvessel says: Nov 2, 2009 9:25 AM

    I don’t understand why all these people are pissed about the boos for Favre. If they hadn’t booed, I would have lost ALL respect for the Packers fans. Why not boo? It would be like cheering on after catching your wife or girlfriend cheating on you. Ya, he gave them 16 years of football, and a championship, but he plays for a hated rival now. If Robert Smith, or Cris Carter left to play for the Packers, do you think MN fans would give them a standing ovation? Nope, they would boo the shit out of them, and they didn’t do half as much for our franchise as Favre did for that franchise, not to mention that SPIT of a town!! Besides, towards the end of the game, I didn’t hear much booing at all.

  20. radioboy20010 says: Nov 2, 2009 9:26 AM

    Classless or not, Gump deserved to be booed. As much as you can blame the Packers in the situation, you can blame Gump more.
    The real situation in Green Bay is Ted Thompson has tried to out-think the league and has failed, miserably. This is a team stuck in perpetual mediocrity. Aaron Rodgers is the new Lynn Dickey, a very good QB surrounded by a couple of players, but not enough to win. After five years of TT, it’s clear this team is nowhere close to a contender. McCarthy is a second-rate football mind, and should be changing oil at Jiffy-Lube.
    I’ve seen this before, and Mark Murphy(who didn’t hire Ted Thompson) needs to make a statement at season’s end(with an 8-8 record) and dismiss Thompson. Give Reggie McKenzie the job, move Dom Capers to head coach and hire an offensive coordinator who can stop the endless array of stupid penalities these clowns obviously can’t. I’m also tired of being owned by the Vikings. Even when Gump was QB they owned GB.
    I’ve been a Packers fan since 1960, and if something isn’t done, this will continue for years until something THEN is done.
    .

  21. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 2, 2009 9:28 AM

    HK94
    I’m not bashing all Packer Fans, just the ones who bash Favre and worship Thompson. I did just see a picture of one classy Packer fan holding a sign that said …
    ” Forget the Jerseys, Respect our Legend”
    I think that pretty much sums it up.

  22. jimmySee says: Nov 2, 2009 9:28 AM

    Seems to me the Vikings are a better team this year. But Green Bay has Aaron Rogers for the next ten years or so — so we’ll see how next year plays out.
    And the Viking will end up in LA anyway

  23. Vikes-N-Favre says: Nov 2, 2009 9:31 AM

    On a side note, Jared Allen now leads the NFL with 10.5 sacks through 8 games. He is on pace for 21 on the season.

  24. Ambrose says: Nov 2, 2009 9:32 AM

    Favre is like an experienced maestro conducting a well-disciplined orchestra. He has, no doubt, the more talented team assisting his efforts. Harvin getting 261 all-purpose yards is what killed the Packers, that and more of the same with the sacks and boneheaded mistakes and penalties. You don’t see the Vikings making mistakes like that. I still don’t think Favre would be able to produce any more effectively than Aaron Rodgers is, if he were still with Green Bay. Green Bay just doesn’t have the focus and discipline to win games like this one. That, to me, is poor coaching. They may still be able to make it into the playoffs and if they can, a third shot at the Vikings would be welcomed.

  25. Mean Leroy Brown says: Nov 2, 2009 9:33 AM

    As a vikings fan, I’ve earned a lot of respect for several of you packer fans.
    Thanks for the good game and the good words.
    Looking forward to seeing you guys again next year.

  26. PackSucks says: Nov 2, 2009 9:34 AM

    Bwah, ha ha ha ha ha…..
    Now Aaron Rodgers knows just what Brett went through all those years……trying to carry a team and a franchise on his back. Not as easy as it looks is it kid?
    I just wish the Packers would go quietly back in the irrelevance from whence they came…..it’s okay to cry in your cheese soup but can you please keep it down….some of us are tryin’ to watch football.

  27. PervyHarvin says: Nov 2, 2009 9:38 AM

    You know, I’m really getting excited about this Vikings team! I think we may be the best COMPLETE team in the NFL.
    Passing game -check
    Running game-check
    O line -check
    D line-check
    Secondary-check(weakest part ,but Winfield will help greatly)
    Special teams- check
    In the NFC,seems the Giants are fading. I’m not fearing Saints . Our D kicks their ass. Their O is good,but won’t say better than ours. Our special teams a big advantage.
    In the AFC,Colts the best I think.They can’t stop the run like us and don’t play as physical. Steelers run game is here and there. Broncos are led by Orton. He is no Favre.
    Still early,much can happen. Think us Viking fans should feel pretty good about this team . When we are clicking, be hard for anyone to beat us. Imagine if we played a WHOLE 4 QUARTERS?!?

  28. PerryMason says: Nov 2, 2009 9:38 AM

    cfuska says: November 2, 2009 9:06 AM
    Two things I hope not to see in comments on this story.
    2) Minnesota fans ripping on Rodgers. How many picks did he throw yesterday? None. He had great numbers, unfortunately his defense just let up too many pionts and Grant couldn’t really get the running game going. Rodgers is a classy guy all the way.
    Who’s Rodgers?
    But on another subject, why does the Packers’ quarterback take sacks when he’s out of the pocket?

  29. bustabloodvessel says: Nov 2, 2009 9:40 AM

    Good point mixman34. I thought the same thing. When the Pack came to MN, and Peterson was stripped, they should have called his foward progress stopped, as he hadn’t moved foward for about 4 seconds, and there were 9 Packers on top of him. Grant barely got touched and fumbled, but his foward progress was called dead. Kinda makes you think, huh?

  30. Queens of Denial says: Nov 2, 2009 9:43 AM

    Finally, the Vikes found a way to sweep the Pack. Harvin, Favre, Allen,AP, have the parts to move into the top.
    In regards to LA…… Minnesota and the league will see to it that the Vikes stay in Minnesota.
    When Favre finally retires…. Aaron Rodgers will be making the trek to Viking Land.

  31. Twiz says: Nov 2, 2009 9:53 AM

    I would have thought the last MN games against Green Bay would have shut up all the complete idiots like jimmySee that constantly say that the Vikes are going to LA. Its not going to happen, period!
    Do you honestly think that the league is going to give up the HUGE rivalry between these two teams? Granted, it was bigger the past two games, but the rivalry itself has ALWAYS been huge! You will see much of the same thing when the Vikes play and whip the Bears.
    The league is NOT going to realign, nor will it allow a team to move that has such historic rivalrys within its division.

  32. J says: Nov 2, 2009 9:53 AM

    I believe Jacksonville and Tampa Bay are the 2 teams considered for moving right now. Jacksonville to London and T.B to L.A. Sorry to correct you Jimmy See but you obviously have no clue whats going on. You must be a Packer fan.

  33. danlinker says: Nov 2, 2009 9:55 AM

    I still think it’s funny how many posts florio put up on this game as it started. You know he already had a rough draft at least of the Pack winning and him bashing the hell out of Favre. Had to throw that out. And then when the game ended he waited forever to post anything on it. Nice to see the little weasel have to shut up for a change.

  34. hayward giablommi says: Nov 2, 2009 9:56 AM

    “There was just a lack of class shown in GB yesterday by many of their fans. TT-MM caused this whole thing to play out. The TT-MM brotherhood of idiocy let down the GB faithful, not Favre. ”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    Erroneous. Erronous on all counts.
    Favre (obviously) deserved to be lustily booed (and perhaps even peppered with litter) in response to his disgraceful behavior over the past few offseasons. If you feel otherwise, then you don’t understand the concept of ‘team first’.
    A couple of interesting observations brought up by the Fox crew yesterday: First, a possible extension for Childress was brought up, and that Favre could come back a second year in Minnesota. Which got me thinking, will Favre put the Vikings through his never ending retirement sham in order to skip offseason again? I say yes, obviously.
    Second: Troy Aikman speculated towards the end of the game that perhaps Favre didn’t want to come back to Green Bay regardless of what happened in the spring of 2008. I think that this is probably closer to the truth than anything else I’ve heard, yet Favre’s Kool-Aid drinking minions will always point the finger in any other direction than # 4.
    On a personal note, as a lifelong Favre hater, it was very tough to watch yesterday, seeing this manipulative scumbag doing exactly what he wanted to do, go into Green Bay and win. Sucks even more because he is getting much of the credit, even though he is clearly not the reason they are achieving success. Minnesota’s offensive game plan essentially has taken most of the burdon off Favre with his usual stupid decision making being minimized.
    However, as anyone who follows the game knows, the football gods will make things right when Favre implodes in the second half of the season and bows out of the playoffs with the usual 4 int performance. Fear not, Wisconsinites, you all of people should know that this is inevitable.

  35. SuperbowlViking says: Nov 2, 2009 9:57 AM

    “It’s called sticking with your team during ups and downs.”
    Us Viking fans don’t know anything about that; thats why when we move to LA all of our bandwagon fans are really going to wish they was allot different. We are having fun now but a big slap in our faces is coming right around the corner, this is just to pretty of a season for us, something is going to happen i can tell. Awesome win yesterday and congrats to Favre he is so cool even though he looks like a duphus his wife is kind of nice i would test spin that yeah i would.
    SKOEL Vikings

  36. Nevisyakker says: Nov 2, 2009 10:11 AM

    Haward-fullofbologna—-seek help, you have issues—

  37. kravon says: Nov 2, 2009 10:12 AM

    Kravon congratulates the Vikings.

  38. Majik Man says: Nov 2, 2009 10:27 AM

    hayward giablommi
    The mere suggestion of throwing litter at another human being negates any credibility you ever had or ever will have. You are obviously a very shallow, ignorant, low life piece of trash.
    Pro football is a business, and Favre made a business decision, albeit an unpopular one. The booing, while completely classless and ungrateful, was one thing. But your idiocy apparently knows no bounds; you’re not a fan, you’re just a petty child who needs to grow up.

  39. BigSnert says: Nov 2, 2009 10:27 AM

    Can we hope that . . . maybe . . . FINALLY . . . Childress is “getting it?” The light went out of my eyes when, 11 years ago, Denny took a knee. The 3rd and 11 touchdown pass to Berrian in the red zone turned the light back on. Now THAT was serious “serial killer” football.
    GO VIKES!

  40. Plankshelmet says: Nov 2, 2009 10:29 AM

    I’m a Bear fan and hate both teams equally so I think I can be objective. Vikings kicked the crap out of you at home in a game that should have been a very big game for any player on the Packers. But for a bone headed play by Robinson you were about to give the Vikings the ball at midfield on the way to being humiliated. The Packers and Bears will both be lucky to be 500. Vikings look like a Super Bowl team assuming Favre stays healthy. However, the window is closing fo Vikings in a year or two when Mccarthy and Lovie Smith are fired Pack and Bears will be headed in the right direction.

  41. sand0 says: Nov 2, 2009 10:32 AM

    hayward giablommi says:
    November 2, 2009 9:56 AM ,
    I don’ really agree with that. Favre had a history with Green Bay. But this isn’t Green Bay. Different players, domed environment, less cheese and fireworks, different coaching, different style of team, etc.
    You can’t just assume all the old stuff will again be true. If that was the case, he would be throwing picks by now.

  42. tufar says: Nov 2, 2009 10:36 AM

    Hey Hayward if you know all this inevitable stuff, can you help me with my investments? If the Vikings game plan is to keep Favre’s decision making under control, and it seems to be working, how then does he implode the way you are saying? One of the most contradictory blogs yet. I’d be more concerned about Rodgers than of Favre if I were you. Big numbers, nice guy, but in the pocket it looks like he has one eye and can’t hear. Pathetic in important games, good luck with him as your future, big guy. You have to beat good teams Packer fans. Blowing away cream puffs means dick all.

  43. Vikes-N-Favre says: Nov 2, 2009 10:39 AM

    I am really disappointed. Disappointed that all of the past week leading up to this game that GB fans were on here completely bashing the Vikings, talking about how they had no chance at winning in GB, Favre would get beat up, and I even read one post where it said that Favre would come to GB, get injured and play his last game in Lambeau Field and never play again.
    GB’s defense in 2 games, 8 quarters of football, and all that trash talk barely got close enough to Favre to fart and have him smell it. Pretty sad to considering that they played outdoors yesterday with a stringent downwind. I just think that its funny that they can hand out the bashing, but they can’t take it at all. Some Packer fans were on here taking it, so props to you. We just all need to realize that this is a game, and none of us fans for either team are the ones out there performing. We all get caught up in the moment, but its all just fun.
    I will say this honestly, if GB ever gets a OL that is worth a crap and gives Rodgers time in the pocket, he will pick apart a defense just like Favre is doing. The only knack against Rodgers is that he takes to many senseless sacks when he can just throw the ball away, but wants to make that big play every time. Once he gets that under control, he will be a really solid QB. It won’t hurt either to get him a good RB, and a defense. Against good teams, it seems he is always playing from behind which is why he is putting up big yardage games, and also why he is taking so many sacks.
    On the season, Rodgers has been sacked 31 times which leads the NFL, and 14 of those 31 sacks have come in 2 games against the Vikings. Damn near half of the sacks on him have come from the Vikings defense. He should expect more of the same when they play the Ravens, Steelers, and 49ers. They all get after the QB a lot, and GB has given up the most sacks in the NFL. That surprises me to a point as well considering that Rodgers is a very mobile QB. He even led the Packers in rushing yesterday.

  44. Supersuckers says: Nov 2, 2009 10:43 AM

    This is for us packer fans that have a bit of enjoyment talking knowledgeable football and not for you trolls that as the Green Bay Press Gazette put it this morning. “throw insults annonymously while eating doritos in their parents basement. Just ignore them. they have no life and get aroused by getting a rise out of someone they don’t even know” Thank you Tom Perilisso. A great beat reproter. And he is only in his twenties. Good head on his shoulders.
    Anyway, Vikes-N-Favre must have been watching a replay of the 1998 game. This was a game that showed you exactly how good Minnesota can be (first half and last drive to seal the game) and a game that showed me a ton of the character of the Green Bay Packers. They were manhandled in that first half. The third quarter was magnificant. The ultimate result was a loss and there is a definite gap albeit a small one between these two teams. The season is by NO means over packer fans. Winning the division seems unlikely. Lets focus on getting one of the wild cards and maybe just maybe…by getting better and and getting more consistent on the OL with chemistry have a chance to see these guys once again at the dump and end their season as they did to us with a 8-8 record in 2004 with the aid of 4 Favre interceptions. green Bay has a good team. Minnesota is clearly better. Right now. Were not even half way done! 4-3?? Not too bad. Lets get to 5-3 half way through and were right in the thick of it.

  45. Fan of Football says: Nov 2, 2009 10:47 AM

    Ted Thompson should be drafting his resignation papers today.

  46. GobiasINC_1 says: Nov 2, 2009 11:03 AM

    Well, Fan_Of_Four, you just had the best day of your life.
    Now us fans that realize that the Packers will still be around when Favre retires (eventually), will enjoy watching Aaron Rodgers lead this team for the next ten years or so. That was the point of the move, even though you don’t like it and have become an extremely bitter old wretch who hates the Packers. You have to admit any GM would have made the move, since Aaron Rodgers is the real deal.
    * Now, if you want to talk about Thompson’s failure in five years to assemble something that resembles an NFL caliber offensive line then we can talk. *
    However, I’m sure you would just cry over how great your hero is and how evil and terrible the Packers are. So nevermind.

  47. PervyHarvin says: Nov 2, 2009 11:08 AM

    Hayward says:
    However, as anyone who follows the game knows, the football gods will make things right when Favre implodes in the second half of the season and bows out of the playoffs with the usual 4 int performance. Fear not, Wisconsinites, you all of people should know that this is inevitable.
    ————————————————–
    Maybe in the past on over achieving Pack teams where Favre had to carry the load. Are you blind son?? The Vikings are stacked with talent. Keep sticking pins in that Brett voodoo doll you have and keep jerking off on that rabbits foot. The jokes on you because you will be the one waiting….and waiting…..and waiting……for a ship that never comes in slappy!!!

  48. olskool711 says: Nov 2, 2009 11:16 AM

    After 45 years of being an NFL fan I was never aware of how little class the Packer fans have.
    I’m not talking about their treatment of Farve, or at least that’s not my primary point.
    I’m talking about the way they act and think.
    Like I said, I’m just learning what a bunch of bozo’s you guys are. I suspect Bears, and Vikings fans knew it all along.

  49. hayward giablommi says: Nov 2, 2009 11:26 AM

    Majik Man says:
    “The mere suggestion of throwing litter at another human being negates any credibility you ever had or ever will have. You are obviously a very shallow, ignorant, low life piece of trash.”
    ^^^^^^
    My assertion was made in jest. Get a grip, dude.
    “Pro football is a business, and Favre made a business decision, albeit an unpopular one. The booing, while completely classless and ungrateful, was one thing. But your idiocy apparently knows no bounds; you’re not a fan, you’re just a petty child who needs to grow up.”
    ^^^^^^
    Booing is classless and ungrateful? Are we living on the same planet as each other? You are clearly too sensitive to be a fan of a man’s game such as football. Football players are our modern day gladiators. So please, grow a pair and quit whining that the fans of Green Bay and gave this clown the reception that he so richly deserved. After all, as you said, this is business.

  50. alphamail says: Nov 2, 2009 11:27 AM

    I can’t believe all the pansies who think the Packers fans were “classless” for booing Lord Favre. It’s a football game, people, not the Kennedy Center Honors. You boo the opposing team’s players and do all you can to support your team.
    Wasn’t enough to make up the gap in talent between the Packers and Vikings, but blaming the fans is just idiotic. Favre deserved all the boos he got by virtue of his purple laundry. They can cheer him when he’s inducted into Canton as a Packer (which will happen despite another Viking choke job in the playoffs).

  51. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 2, 2009 11:35 AM

    Keep drinking the Kool -Aid Gobias
    Thompson will never put together a Team like the Vikings have now. Jared Allen, you know the guy that literally spent all day on top of Karen Rodgers yesterday ? Well the Vikings went out and got him via free agency, something Thompson will never do. They also went out out and beefed up their offensive line the same way getting Hutchinson from Seattle.
    And how about that old worn out QB they went out and got that embarrassed the Packers, it seems they didn’t have any problems stepping on the toes of the QB’s they already had because they knew he was better.
    You see, Teddy Boy’s ego won’t let him admit that you can’t build a Team using the draft only so this why Rodgers will never succeed. And another thing, why is that a guy who is suppose to be a QB Coach can’t teach Rodgers to get rid of the ball ? I guess McCarthy’s QB camps are more for show eh ?
    Welcome back to the 70′s Green Bay.

  52. ErinRodgers says: Nov 2, 2009 11:35 AM

    GobiasINC_1 says:
    Now us fans that realize that the Packers will still be around when Favre retires (eventually), will enjoy watching Aaron Rodgers lead this team for the next ten years or so.
    __________________________________
    This is considering the fact that your classless, completely incompetent management doesn’t run Rodgers out of town.

  53. cfuska says: Nov 2, 2009 11:36 AM

    Not that I’m one to stick up for Hayward, as you can see in posts from the past, but just so all you guys know he’s not a Packers fan. Just thought I’d throw that out there. Not that I agree or disagree with him or anything anyone has said to him, but just thought I’d share that.
    And Perry Mason, I assume you were joking when you asked me who Rodgers is. I just didn’t want to hear Minnesota fans bragging about their QB and ripping on one who had more passing yards and only one less TD than theirs did yesterday.

  54. cfuska says: Nov 2, 2009 11:46 AM

    I think I’m more suprised that people were surprised that Brett got booed yesterday. Did you honestly think he was not going to? I used to love Favre, but I do have to say, making an entire franchise wait for you to make a decision, and not make that decision ’til right before the season, just seems to be wrong to me. I know he did great things there, but it’s not about one player. I knew Favre would get booed going on to that field and anyone who thought otherwise is kidding yourself. It has nothing to do with class, and most other fans would react the same way if the situation were the same.

  55. Gordon Tremeshko says: Nov 2, 2009 11:57 AM

    Bob Nelson wrote a few days ago:
    “That viking immorality comes from the top down. NonChristian ownership, flaky cross dressing coach, substance abusers on the team, steroid masking agents, numerous arrests, etc.”
    Chalk on of for the infidels eh Bob? I hope your bigot ass is enjoying the Vikings running away with the division.

  56. hayward giablommi says: Nov 2, 2009 11:57 AM

    tufar says:
    “Hey Hayward if you know all this inevitable stuff, can you help me with my investments?”
    ^^^^^
    Sure, just give me all your money, sign on the dotted line and dotted line and I’ll see what I can do.
    “If the Vikings game plan is to keep Favre’s decision making under control, and it seems to be working, how then does he implode the way you are saying? One of the most contradictory blogs yet. ”
    ^^^^^^
    Let’s be honest, the Vikings have had a cream puff first half of the schedule. As the year goes on, the opponents get tougher, the conditions are lkess than ideal, the pressure mounts, history tells us Favre will take more chances, and will crumble. If I am wrong, then so be it…but let’s face it, if Minnesota goes deep into the playoffs, it won’t be because of Favre.
    “I’d be more concerned about Rodgers than of Favre if I were you. Big numbers, nice guy, but in the pocket it looks like he has one eye and can’t hear. Pathetic in important games, good luck with him as your future, big guy. You have to beat good teams Packer fans. Blowing away cream puffs means dick all.”
    ^^^^^^
    I would be concerned if I was a Packer fan…Rodgers doesn’t have much protection or pocket presence right now…a deadly combination…fortunately for me, however, I am not a Packer fan…just a guy who hopes that Favre fails (like last year and the year before).

  57. DocBG says: Nov 2, 2009 12:00 PM

    # SuperbowlViking says: November 2, 2009 9:57 AM
    “It’s called sticking with your team during ups and downs.”
    Us Viking fans don’t know anything about that; thats why when we move to LA all of our bandwagon fans are really going to wish they was allot different. We are having fun now but a big slap in our faces is coming right around the corner, this is just to pretty of a season for us, something is going to happen i can tell. Awesome win yesterday and congrats to Favre he is so cool even though he looks like a duphus his wife is kind of nice i would test spin that yeah i would.
    SKOEL Vikings
    —————————————————-
    Attention GreenBay Troll posting under another name, You are not clever, and really, no one who reads the crap you put up believes that its posted by a viking fan. quite being a pansy and get out here and take what you’ve got comming.
    As for the game itself, it was wonderful, the vikes look great and have a good chance to win the division.
    I must disagree with a fellow viking fan who questioned why rodgers doesnt just throw the ball away. Seasoned quaterbacks will try to make a play, but avoid the sack out of the pocket by throwing the ball away, no matter how cool rodgers tries to play it, he is still, and will always be, in favres shadow and will always feel the need to live up to his legend. Favre would make plays out of nothing, so rodgers is trying to do the same thing. where its going to hurt him is in racking up all those sacks and not having anything to show for it due to a crappy defense and non exsistant running game. the guy is begging to get injured taking the constant hits and playing like that does not lend to a long career, no worries though right packerland, you’ve allways got brohm and flynn waiting in the wings right?

  58. leatherneck says: Nov 2, 2009 12:06 PM

    One thing I don’t get.
    Why boo Longwell? He wanted to stay with the Packers. He was cut.
    Apparently Packers fans blame Favre for leaving, even though he tried to stay with the team. At least there is an argument that Favre wanted out, but that is a weak argument. Favre could have used someone to help him on offense with that 1st round pick in 2005. The Packers didn’t need to use that pick on Rodgers. OK. That’s complicated.
    Still, why do Green Bay fans boo Ryan Longwell? I just don’t get it.
    As a Vikings fan, I thank the Packers for Favre and Longwell.

  59. PervyHarvin says: Nov 2, 2009 12:09 PM

    Pack fans ,look on the bright side……
    YOU GOT SPENCER ‘FREAKIN’ HAVNER!!!!
    I THINK HE IS DESTINED FOR GREATNESS!!!
    I SHOOK MY HEAD YESTERDAY SAYING”WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY AND WHERE DID HE COME FROM???”

  60. hayward giablommi says: Nov 2, 2009 12:13 PM

    “Maybe in the past on over achieving Pack teams where Favre had to carry the load. Are you blind son?? The Vikings are stacked with talent. Keep sticking pins in that Brett voodoo doll you have and keep jerking off on that rabbits foot. The jokes on you because you will be the one waiting….and waiting…..and waiting……for a ship that never comes in slappy!!!”
    ^^^^^^
    As much as I’d love to flame you for being the raging douchebag you are, I will admit that from Peterson and Harvin to their defense to special teams, this is probably one of the most stacked teams that Whats-his-name has QB’d since about 1996.
    Do I root for 4 to fail miserably? Absofrickenlutely. I was thilled last year when Favre went to the Jesters, it was perfect, a QB I loathe going to a team I loathe without par (sorry, cfuska). And it was great watching the ol’ gunslinger stumble to the finish line, managing to turn a winning season into an epic failure.
    The scary part this year, though, is he might have enough weapons around him to mitigate his penchant for single handedly destroying his teams’ season. Only time will tell.

  61. Majik Man says: Nov 2, 2009 12:22 PM

    hayward
    Apparently, we don’t live on the same planet, because I live on one where normal, decent human beings are supposed to be appreciative of a man who brings 16 years of greatness and 110% effort to a franchise that was mired in futility since the ’60′s. So yes, in this case, booing was completely classless.
    Let’s not forget that Favre didn’t leave as a free agent, he was traded. He had no choice but to leave. Granted, he did willingly end up with the rival Vikes. But the Vikes were the best fit for him, a team with a familiar offense and a QB away from Super Bowl contention. The guy wants a ring, and Minny offers him a chance to get one.
    You’re right, we should hold his competitive desire to win against him. He should have went to the Raiders, so he didn’t offend the team that no longer wanted him, and the fans who support that team.
    Just taking a wild guess here based on your incredibly low intellect and complete lack of class, you have Steeler homer written all over you. Not Steeler fan, because they do have some decent fans, but a homer, with no concept of anything other than “Steelers Rule”. Get a clue, toolbox.

  62. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 2, 2009 12:26 PM

    PervyHarvin says:
    The press conference after the game didn’t attack the booing haters at all…maybe! Did anyone see Deion Sanders on NFL Networks bit on what Favre said in the PC but what he really meant?? Had me choking on beer,was the funniest shit ever! Might want to look into that Florio,be a good story.
    _____________________________________
    Yeah, that was absolutely hilarious. Loved it.
    Congrats on the win, and nice to see most of the Viking fans this morning aren’t on here further torturing us and rubbing salt in the wound. Shows a level of class I don’t often see with that particular fan base. If you guys do win it all this year (which I still hope to God you don’t), it will be well deserved.

  63. GBISFULLOFFATTIES says: Nov 2, 2009 12:29 PM

    Sorry Packer fans but you need to come up with something else then the “well we have Rodgers for the next ten years so…” That doesn’t matter at all. Live in the moment and that is this year. If you have already given up on the season, don’t post. You look foolish

  64. footballrulz says: Nov 2, 2009 12:49 PM

    “You are great man”,
    Pervy–Last January did you ever think those words would come out of your mouth, or off of your fingertips in this case, about Favre. And Havener is a pleasant surprise.
    You know I was thinking (huh oh)–if we would have traded Favre to the Vikes last year I’m sure we would have got at least a 1st round for him. Think Percy would’ve looked good in Green & Gold? I’ll accept your thank you now for both favors.
    @DocBG
    Barring an incredible turn of events I’d say you’ve already won the Division but your’e not really in much of a position to be calling out backup QB’s now, are you?

  65. bluestree says: Nov 2, 2009 1:15 PM

    “Vikes-N-Favre says:
    November 2, 2009 9:31 AM
    On a side note, Jared Allen now leads the NFL with 10.5 sacks through 8 games. He is on pace for 21 on the season.”
    Maybe he can get 22. Ask Farve to give him one!

  66. Favredaze says: Nov 2, 2009 1:23 PM

    Alphamail you showed your idiocy and classlessness not when you booed but when you said you will cheer him in Canton. If your gonna boo boo from now on. Your booing cause he plays for another team or your booing cause what happened in the summer of 2008, regardless those thing will not change, they are forever the way they are Favre plays for Minnesota. So keep booing or don’t boo at all. Pick a side don’t be and classless fool

  67. Gnarburger says: Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM

    The Dugan TD catch is similar to a play by Santonio Holmes in the AFC Championship game that was ruled no TD. Santonio probably took more steps with the ball than Dugan did, as he made the catch near the 5 yard line. They still ruled he had to maintain possession through the ground.

  68. footballrulz says: Nov 2, 2009 1:29 PM

    @ MajikMan
    I don’t go along with all of that gonna fold up toward the end of the season crap but there’s one point Hayward made that you of all people should understand:
    “If you feel otherwise, then you don’t understand the concept of ‘team first’”.

  69. Majik Man says: Nov 2, 2009 1:56 PM

    I understand the concept of team first, it’s your brilliant GM Thompson who fails to grasp this. He put his own ego ahead of doing what was right for the team, which was letting Favre at least compete for the job instead of running him out of town. I’m fully aware that Favre wasn’t the entire 2007 team, but he was the main difference between 13-3 and 6-10.

  70. EndOfStory says: Nov 2, 2009 2:35 PM

    Here is zackly what happened.
    Brett Farve done took the field and knocked the CHEESE off Ted Thompson’s cracker.
    END OF STORY

  71. Balr14 says: Nov 2, 2009 3:07 PM

    I’ve been a Packers fan since 1951. I remember the days of Tobin Rote and the 1-11 1958 team. I think I’m a pretty realistic fan, not one of the highly delusional and rabid, ones. We really haven’t had many good teams in the 50+ years I’ve been a fan. We had a good run in the 60s and another in the 90s. Otherwise, not so good. Lots of times, scheduling makes the team look a lot better than it is.
    The current management is poor. They make bad personel and coaching decisions on a regular basis. You don’t build good teams by consistently blowing first and second round draft choices. The decision to use a zone blocking running game and 3 – 4 defense are pure idiocy. The zone blocking works in Denver because opposing linemen tire from having to jump over diving offense linemen, because of the altitude. It doesn’t work so well anywhere else. The 3-4 defense works on teams that haven’t seen it and don’t play against it a lot. If you have to resort to blitzes because you can’t pressure the QB with your 4 down linemen, it doesn’t matter what sort of defense you play.
    The Brett Favre situation is no different than any other that occurs in corporate America; new management has their own ideas and want to utilize their own people. Sometimes, you just have to go elsewhere, like it or not.
    I’ll be rooting for the Vikings to win the Super Bowl. I’m a Packers fan first, but a NFC Central fan second. If the Packers aren’t good enough (and this is at best an 8 – 8 team), somebody else from the NFC North has to stick it to everyone else.

  72. Vikingsnut says: Nov 2, 2009 3:10 PM

    where is Tundrastruck? No big talk outa yah?
    hayward giablommi
    No matter what you say or anyone says Favre’s NFL careere speaks for itself! All you do is sling his personal stuff around! Come on even his personal stuff pales to Mike Vick or Ricky Williams! I as a diehard Vikes fan only ever loathed Brett becaused he torched us as a Packer. Never once did that take away that he is a great player! It’s great to have him now on my team torching the Packers especially on the very same field he brought respect back to!

  73. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 2, 2009 3:12 PM

    Isn’t it amazing that when he had Favre, McCarthy was considered a young coaching genius and Brad Childress was considered a dunce, and now that Favre plays for the Vikings they both look like completely different coaches?

  74. VikeFan2102 says: Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM

    With all of the Brett Favre hoopla yesterday no one felt the need to criticize our awful defensive play calling. My initial thought after watching the green bay game was, “ Does the Vikings Defense go into halftime with the lead, Hammer a twelve pack of beer and fall asleep for a half an hour.” however, the more I watch I realize It has nothing to do with the players, or their adjustments at half time. It is the play calling in the second half that boggles my mind. The Vikings held a 24-3 lead at half time and come out the same way they did 14 days ago against the Ravens calling the awful prevent cover two defense. This strategy might work if you are up by four td’s, not two scores, it might also work if any of the Vikings defensive backs did not have their heads up their asses and could cover somebody. The defense had me wondering who is covering the middle of the field, it definitely was not the Viking line backers who were too busy running into the backs of the D-Line on ill-advised blitzes. The only person I consistently witnessed covering the middle of the field was poor Jimmy Kennedy who on more than a handful of occasions was stuck covering the running back or receivers running open across the middle of the field. I sat quietly as the lead got snapped to 24-20, and wonder If the line backers would get some depth or if Paymah could cover anybody that the big lead we once held would still be intact. Snap after snap Aaron Rodgers is picking apart every hole in this weak zone, and exploiting the same players that Joe Flacco did two short weeks ago. This is why my initial theory of our defense drinking and sleeping during half time is wrong, it is the coaches calling these plays and it will be the coaches fault the next time we blow a lead in the second half of a football game and lose. This is the same prevent cover two the Vikings have been running as far as I remember and has never worked I just know that we would not be close to 7-1 if it was not for the D-Line, Brett Favre, and AP. I know I’m not the only one that is tired of watching the Vikings D-backs get torched every week, they have to stay aggressive!!! Or else it’s going to be one and done in the playoffs again! Someone had to say it but then again I think everyone knows.

  75. hayward giablommi says: Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM

    Vikingsnut says:
    hayward giablommi
    No matter what you say or anyone says Favre’s NFL careere speaks for itself! All you do is sling his personal stuff around!
    ^^^^^^^^^
    Very true, Favre’s NFL career speaks for itself.
    All time Interception king.
    Singlehandedly crushed his teams playoff chances in:
    2001 (6 ints vs. St. Louis)
    2002 (abysmal performance vs. Atl, first ever Lambeau playoff loss)
    2003 (devastating hail-mary-for-no-apparent-reason at Philly in OT)
    2004 (ugly wildcard loss to .500 Minnesota team)
    2007 (devastating INT to vault giants into Super Bowl and cap off Packer career)

  76. Majik Man says: Nov 2, 2009 4:09 PM

    hayward
    You point out 5 bad games, over a 16 year career. And the Eagles game wasn’t on Favre, it came down to the defense giving up a 4th and 26. 2007 was a result of Al Harris giving up 140 yards to Burress… in the 1st half, and the coach making no adjustments.
    It’s funny how you fail to mention his 3 MVP’s, 10 Pro Bowl selections, a Super Bowl win, and just about every passing record in history.

  77. leatherneck says: Nov 2, 2009 4:44 PM

    Average Packers fan: We’re better off without Brett
    Average Vikings fan: No, we’re better off.

  78. hayward giablommi says: Nov 2, 2009 5:16 PM

    Majik Man says:
    “You point out 5 bad games, over a 16 year career. ”
    ^^^^^^
    Not just 5 games, MajikMan. 5 games that cost him, his teammates and Packer fans opportunities to win championships. I don’t have the numbers in front of me, but I’d venture to guess that GB was favored in at least 3 or 4 of those games.
    Also of note is how Green Bay never lost a playoff game at Lambeau, but lost 3 from 2002 to 2007.
    “And the Eagles game wasn’t on Favre, it came down to the defense giving up a 4th and 26. ”
    ^^^^^
    Revisionist history. If I recall correctly the Eagles needed 4 & 26 to eventually tie the score. If I further recall, Green Bay won the coin toss, got the ball, and Favre promptly pissed it away with one of the most backbreaking, devastating air balls in playoff history. Them’s the facts man.
    “2007 was a result of Al Harris giving up 140 yards to Burress… in the 1st half, and the coach making no adjustments.”
    ^^^^^^
    Once again, eerily similar to 2003, that became irrelevant once Green Bay won the toss, got the ball and Favre destroyed yet another Packer playoff run with his mistakes due to carelessness.
    “It’s funny how you fail to mention his 3 MVP’s, 10 Pro Bowl selections, a Super Bowl win, and just about every passing record in history.”
    ^^^^^^
    It’s funny how you call yourself a fan and yet you refuse to acknowledge that Favre has singlehandedly cost Green Bay more championships than he has brought you.

  79. Majik Man says: Nov 2, 2009 6:06 PM

    It’s funny how in previous posts, you state it’s a team game, and it’s team first. And now you’re saying that Favre single handedly cost GB all of these games. You seem to flip flop more than the man you despise so much.
    And a game changing play never becomes irrelevant, because, you know, it changed the game. If 4th and 26 isn’t converted, there is no OT. If Harris keeps Burress in check, there is no OT.
    Bash Favre all you want, but any true fan of the game realizes he is one of the greats, and won’t let some bonehead Steeler homer, who is probably ignorant enough to think Big Ben is the greatest QB ever, convince them otherwise with his lame arguments based solely upon a few playoff losses during an 18 year career.

  80. PerryMason says: Nov 2, 2009 7:14 PM

    • cfuska says: November 2, 2009 11:36 AM
    And Perry Mason, I assume you were joking when you asked me who Rodgers is. I just didn’t want to hear Minnesota fans bragging about their QB and ripping on one who had more passing yards and only one less TD than theirs did yesterday.
    Yea, it’s a running gag that started with and article in the Onion last year. It’s still available on the Onion site.
    This year Brett Favre has refused to say Rodgers name and only refers to him as “the Green Bay quarterback.”
    Frank Caliendo on Fox sports refers to Rodgers as Aaron What’s His Name.
    All in all it’s just a joke that gets Packer fans really upset which makes it twice as funny.

  81. packers4life says: Nov 2, 2009 8:53 PM

    “They never had a shot to win this game. The closest they came was when they had a 3-0 lead early in the 1st quarter. From there on, the Vikings owned them.”
    Never had a shot to win this game?? They came within 4 points to tying the Vikings and could of taken the lead. How is not being close to winning the game??
    and no the Vikings did not own anyone and neither did the Packers. The Vikings owned us in the first half but in the second half, the Packers quickly turned around. With that said, in order for the Vikings to have ‘owned’ the Packers, they should of dominated the entire game and not just two quarters of it.

  82. packers4life says: Nov 2, 2009 9:04 PM

    “On a side note, Jared Allen now leads the NFL with 10.5 sacks through 8 games. He is on pace for 21 on the season.”
    Dude he isn’t going to get 21 sacks. Sure he has 10.5 sacks this season but have you realized 7.5 of those sacks came against the Packers? which he won’t be playing anymore this season? Outside of that, he only has 3 sacks against the 6 other teams the Packers have faced.

  83. packers4life says: Nov 2, 2009 9:12 PM

    “Pro football is a business, and Favre made a business decision,”
    …so wait, you say pro football is a business and Favre signing with the Vikings is a business decision but yet when the Packers made a business decision by getting rid of Favre, you whine and cry and say they mistreated him. Dude you are nothing but a hyprocrite.
    and so what if the fans booed??? They are booeing him because he is the enemy, not because he unretired. Had he been with a different team, it would of been a different story. Why can’t people see that??

  84. packers4life says: Nov 2, 2009 9:30 PM

    “crappy defense ”
    Dude if you check out NFL.com, this is what you will find when it comes to defensive rankings….
    Vikings
    Points allowed-20th
    Yards-19th
    Pass yards-23rd
    Rush yards-8th
    Packers
    Points allowed-10th
    Yards-4th
    Pass yards-9th
    Rush yards-10th
    These stats don’t lie….
    and of course Viking fans think it is classless for Packer fans to boo Favre but when they have done it the past 16 years, they think it’s fine. Dude, Favre is our rival now. You actually expect Packer fans to cheer for him wearing enemy colors? No didn’t think so. With that said, just get the hell over the fact they booed instead of whining about how it was classless because like said, you probably did the same exact thing when Favre was with the Packers.

  85. JJIrons says: Nov 2, 2009 9:44 PM

    The STANDARD line from Packers fanatics is that Vikings fans “hated Favre for 16 years and now they LOVE him” or some such rot. How the hell do you know WHAT Vikings fans loved, liked, appreciated, or whatever? That’s a line your local sports talk radio gave you to use.
    And, Tundrastruck, say it again, how bad did you say the Packers would beat the Vikings? I can’t quite remember…are you there Tundrastruck ?
    And Pukers4life, stats are for losers! Ha! Ha!

  86. Mulva says: Nov 2, 2009 10:14 PM

    As a Packer fan, I can securely say the Vikings are a better team right now. Since we don’t have much of a shot at the division this year, I can’t wait until the Vikings demolish the Bears. They’re in a serious decline and I won’t accept finishing behind them in the North. Hell, I think the Lions have a shot at beating Chicago.

  87. Majik Man says: Nov 2, 2009 10:41 PM

    packers4life says: November 2, 2009 9:12 PM
    “Pro football is a business, and Favre made a business decision,”
    …so wait, you say pro football is a business and Favre signing with the Vikings is a business decision but yet when the Packers made a business decision by getting rid of Favre, you whine and cry and say they mistreated him. Dude you are nothing but a hyprocrite.
    ______________
    I never once said they mistreated Favre, in fact, if it would have been a pure business decision, I would have no problem with it. But it was obviously more about Thompson’s own ego than it was business. A GM’s job is to field the most competitive team possible. Thompson was more concerned with playing his guy instead of playing the best guy. If you had the ability to think for yourself, this would be pretty clear to you.
    Also, good work on posting those defense stats, but you omitted one critical one.
    Vikings
    Wins allowed- 1
    Packers
    Wins allowed- 3
    And come back at season’s end and talk defense numbers, until now you’ve played one good offense. Let’s see where those numbers lie after playing SF, Baltimore, and Pitt (Minn has played all 3), and Dallas and the Cards.

  88. Gordon Tremeshko says: Nov 2, 2009 11:01 PM

    @packers 4 life
    First off, I agree with you that the packers do not have a crappy defense. Second, I agree with you that JA probably won’t have 21 sacks.
    However, I have to say that I think you are wrong about what the stats have to say. I doubt you have watched all of the Viking’s games this year, and I know that I have not watched all of the Packer’s games, but I think, despite what those stats might say, most people would agree that the Vikings’ defense is better than the Packers’ defense right now. From watching the games, it is obvious that stats alone don’t tell the entire story when it comes of offensive or defensive prowess, especially over the course of 7 or 8 games. Yardage is especially overrated as a stat. In the end, the only stat that really matters is the record.

  89. packers4life says: Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM

    Look, the Vikings defense is not bad at all but throughout the season they have given up huge leads. The ones that come to mind are the first Packer/Viking game at the Metrodome, where the Vikings had a comfortable lead before letting them back in it. They also had a huge 30-17 lead over Baltimore as well but once again, the defense laid back as if they won the game and let them right back in it, only having a missed field goal get them out of it. and the most recent was this Sunday. They were up huge 24-3 and many people were thinking blowout until the Packers got right back in it and made it 24-20 at one point.
    I admit they have a great run defense but their pass defense is question marks.

  90. Favredaze says: Nov 3, 2009 1:58 AM

    All you loser Packer fans who get on here and bash and boo Favre after cheering MVP at Lambeau and buying shirts that say got Brett? So how lousy a fan you are.
    You say it is cause he plays for the enemy, but I have never heard the Packer fans boo anyone like that before, Ya’ll have never booed the Vikings like that before, Ya’ll have never booed Moss like that before when he and the Vikes had the Packs number. So it ain’t only because he plays for the enemy.
    You say you would rather have Rodgers than Favre, but yet you boo Favre when he comes back to Green Bay. Nobody said you had to cheer for him during the game. I don’t think the police at Lambeau would have arrestted you for not cheering Lord Favre.If you are truly happy with Rodgers, as you say you are you should have given him a standing ovation for getting out of town so you could enjoy your new quaterback.
    But as was evident from the boos Sunday. You are not booing because he plays for Minnesota. You are booing for two main reasons,which we will designate with numbers, with underlying reasons for those reasons.which we will designate with letters
    1 your booing for the sake of booing
    a. you are to ignorant to know any better
    b. you are to young to remember Green Bay before Brett
    c. you have no sense of loyalty or respect for people who have given so much, and asked for very little
    2. You are not happy with Aaron Rodgers as your quaterback
    a. You are to ashamed to admit the mistakes your franchise made
    b. You are to ignorant to admit your bias
    But I am well pleased to see that alot of the Packer fans are disgusted with you losers who showed the whole NFL world that the classless fans don’t all live in Philadelphia. Booing Favre is about as bad as booing Santa Clause.
    So to all us Packer fans that realize what Favre has done for our team we can feel good seeing Brett go into the Hall of Fame cause we know we never turned our back on him.
    Cause I know 5 years after Favre retires none of you classless losers will admit to booing Favre at the Hall of Fame induction. So at night you will wrestle with the guilt you feel for the betrayl of probally the last great Packer you will see in your Lifetime

  91. Waffle says: Nov 3, 2009 9:44 AM

    Florio’s anti-Viking bias comes through again. Dugan’s reception was a catch then, and a catch today. I watched it in super-slow motion at home on a big screen and there’s no question about it.
    The truth is that the Vikings beat a very good Packer team in one of the toughest venues for visitors in all of sport.
    As for the Favre traitor stuff, how come I never heard any of that out of Green Bay when Reggie White defected from the Eagles to the Packers? Hey, why not just admit that Ted Thompson jumped the gun and pushed one of the best – if not the best – quarterback in NFL history to retire before his time?

  92. PervyHarvin says: Nov 3, 2009 9:45 AM

    @ Favredaze — Good point. I never thought about that. Favre goes to the Hall of Fame as a Packer but was booed,buried and hated by those very fans in the end?? Very surreal scene! Would that be an awkward induction??

  93. Gordon Tremeshko says: Nov 3, 2009 11:18 AM

    @packers4life
    I admit the Viking’s ability to let people back into games is a major concern and that their pass defense is a question mark (especially with Winfield out).

  94. packers4life says: Nov 3, 2009 12:28 PM

    When are some of you Viking fans ever going to let the booeing go?? Good god, I am getting so freakin’ tired of reading posts from idiots like favredaze thinking we are classless for booeing Favre. Quit crying and get over it. What happened, happened. You have no right to call us classless either when Viking fans probably booed him for the past 16 years.
    and also favredaze,
    You sure are bitter if you type that novel of a post just because they booed so why don’t you just shut the hell up. Quit acting like you know what Packer fans are thinking. Stick to watching the purple and stop caring about what Packer fans do. And your calling us lousy fans for cheering Brett now booeing him? What about Viking fans? One minute you hate him and now your buying his gear? What about that? You stupid hyprocrite.
    “to retire before his time?”
    Thompson didn’t force Favre to retire. He wanted Favre to make a decision quicker. Favre could of decided to stay unretired but he made the decision of ‘retiring’ instead.

  95. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 3, 2009 6:01 PM

    Vikings fans have a problem with the booing of Favre because for so many years they were used to booing the players on their OWN team.. It’s just foreign to them that people might want to boo a player on an opposing team.

  96. leatherneck says: Nov 3, 2009 8:11 PM

    Packers fans used to have it all. Now their team is on a mission to self-destruct, and Packers fans have gone crazy.
    Life is good.
    I feel a twinge of sadness for Packers fans, however. They used to be sane and honorable.

  97. packers4life says: Nov 4, 2009 3:18 AM

    “Packers fans used to have it all. Now their team is on a mission to self-destruct, and Packers fans have gone crazy. ”
    We’re 4-3 moron. Get a ***king clue. You are acting like just because we lost, we will suck forever.
    Your team is not all that either. I can’t wait until Favre chokes them right out of the playoffs like he did last year and shuts all you moronic Viking fans up.

  98. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 4, 2009 10:36 AM

    leatherneck says:
    November 3, 2009 8:11 PM
    Packers fans used to have it all. Now their team is on a mission to self-destruct, and Packers fans have gone crazy.
    Life is good.
    I feel a twinge of sadness for Packers fans, however. They used to be sane and honorable.
    —————————-
    Hahaha. A mission to self-destruct? They still have a winning record and they’ve lost to two teams.. Two teams who have a combined record of 12-3, right? They’re not losing to the Oaklands and Detroits of the world. They’ve lost to two very good teams, and one of those losses was one snap away from a possible overtime.
    And they’ve got their QB of the future, assuming he doesn’t get planted this season. I don’t expect great things this year, but I know Rodgers is capable of taking them far. What’s Sage Rosenfels look like? Oh, that’s right.. You don’t know.
    Favre and the Vikings may have a great run this season. Maybe they’ll even have to add a trophy room to the Metrodome before the Vikings move out of the building. But their window will close quickly. Favre’s passing will inflate the numbers of guys like Rice, Berrian and Harvin. They’ll want more money. Pat Williams will hang it up, teams will be able to double Allen and the secondary will be exposed. Adrian Peterson will be very good for a very long time, assuming his injury-prone years are behind him. But Barry Sanders was very good for a very long time… And that didn’t turn out so well for the Lions.
    But enjoy this year. Seriously, enjoy it. Things change quickly.

  99. Supersuckers says: Nov 4, 2009 12:10 PM

    It is starting to appear to me that the Viking fan base would take 2-14 every year as long as those two wins were against Green Bay.

  100. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 4, 2009 11:19 PM

    Well, of course they’re going to crow now. Their team is in a good spot and they’ve swept their bitter rivals–with one of the rival’s iconic players.
    For the most part they haven’t acknowledged that their defense is declining and that Favre’s presence hasn’t opened up those wonderful holes for Adrian Peterson they were expecting. And Favre’s involvement has not been the 35 handoffs and 15 passes they were expecting, either. But it’s working out very well.
    I’d be crowing too.

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