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Vikings explain Tahi horseplay injury to league

On Saturday, Vikings fullback Fahu Tahi and tailback Adrian Peterson supposedly got into a wrestling match in the locker room.  Tahi supposedly injured his eye during the exchange.

The Vikings didn’t disclose the injury on Saturday, supposedly because they believed it was no big deal and that Tahi would play.  On Sunday morning, Tahi supposedly woke up with a swollen eye, and the team supposedly decided at that point that he wouldn’t be able to play.

The Vikings then didn’t disclose the injury until Tahi’s name appeared on the list of inactive players, in the middle of the afternoon.

Though Tahi already was on the injury report with a knee injury (the official league-issued report says that Tahi was questonable; the report released by the team had him at probable), the failure to add “eye” to the designation on Saturday or “out” on Sunday morning suggests to us a violation of the rules — especially since the Jets were smacked earlier this year for not disclosing an injury suffered by a player (you might have heard of him) who never missed a game.

The league has looked into the matter, and here’s what the Vikings had to say, via NFL spokesman Greg Aiello.

“He suffered a small cut above his eye that presented no threat to his status at that time (Saturday),” Aiello said.  “On Sunday, the eye had swollen shut and the team deactivated him and reported the facts. . . .  As you know, players suffer cuts and abrasions regularly that do not impact their playing status and are not required to be included on the injury report.  When such a cut develops into something more serious and impacts his playing status, then the club is required to report it, which is what the Vikings did on Sunday. 

“We do not regard this as a violation of the policy, which is focused on playing status, not medical details.”

(Under that standard, the Jets never would have been punished.)

We’re not sure of the circumstances under which a “small cut” above the eye of a professional athlete becomes an “eye swollen shut” after a good night’s sleep.  In our own experience with eye injuries, the area around the eye tends to swell pretty damn quickly, or not at all.

So do we think the Vikings are full of Fahu on this one?  Yep, we do.  Are we surprised that the league isn’t going to draw attention to the apparent cheating by rejecting the explanation and fining the Vikings?  No, we aren’t.

Aiello also pointed out that yours truly was the only member of the media who asked about the manner in which the situation was handled, but maybe the endless Favre-fest caused the beat writers from Green Bay and Minnesota to not follow up.

Regardless, the lead blocker for the best running back in the league injured his eye the day before one of the biggest regular-season games in recent memory, and the Vikings didn’t disclose the condition until 90 minutes before kickoff.  Though it might have been unseemly for the Packers to complain about it publicly (after all, the Packers once refrained from making a stink about the Patriots videotaping defensive coaching signals after losing 35-0), they surely can’t be happy with the apparent shenanigans that prompted only a shrug of the shoulders from the folks responsible for ensuring the integrity of the process.
 

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44 Responses to “Vikings explain Tahi horseplay injury to league”
  1. Nam Huynh says: Nov 3, 2009 9:36 PM

    THIS WHOLE BLOG OVER FAHU???????

  2. The Wishbone says: Nov 3, 2009 9:42 PM

    @ Florio,
    How are you this naive? “Integrity of the process?” It’s the NFL, there never was integrity. And there isn’t now. And there never will be. And that gamesmanship is part of what makes it so interesting.
    Please bring back the non-whiny PFT of the early part of the decade. I understand you didn’t have as many posts per day then, but it was better because there were hardly any stupid posts like this.

  3. Bluffcaller says: Nov 3, 2009 9:43 PM

    Have the Vikings treated you like so many ex-girlfriends of yours who dumped you Florio? You sound like they shot your dog or something the way you bash everything the team does and (try) to make mountains out of molehills. Must be really pissed off that Farve really came through at Green Bay this weekend. Just replace your pad and you’ll feel a whole lot better.

  4. jbizzle says: Nov 3, 2009 9:47 PM

    Does anyone give a crap about this? I certainly don’t. Dig up some real news to report, because this is garbage. Do you get a percentage of the fines the NFL doles out or something?

  5. SmackMyVickUp says: Nov 3, 2009 9:52 PM

    Double standards in the NFL?
    Say it isn’t so.

  6. Wiscdave says: Nov 3, 2009 10:15 PM

    “supposedly”
    “apparent”
    “shenanigans”
    “full of Fahu”
    This has become a vendetta. Dugan hadn’t played fullback since forever, and obviously hadn’t practiced at fullback during the week. He was not the difference in the game, but he did score a TD (yes, he did). More generally, why is it that you report the bad news, with a big side of snark, and your associates report the good news (Favre is named Offensive Player of the Week)? Take Bluffcaller’s advice and get a new pad for your taint.

  7. purpleloki says: Nov 3, 2009 10:15 PM

    Tahi. Are you kidding me? This guy is not even a average NFL player! There has got to be a more newsworthy story somewhere in the NFL, right?

  8. symo2k20 says: Nov 3, 2009 10:20 PM

    wait, Tahi didn’t play on sunday? but how did the vikings win without a big fat ass that has stonehands and can barely block.

  9. Glitch says: Nov 3, 2009 10:26 PM

    Did you just say

  10. Glitch says: Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM

    Did you just write a small cut on a fullbacks eye that swelled overnight is equivalent to a torn tendon in a quarterbacks throwing arm that required surgery? Awesome.

  11. Glad4sGone says: Nov 3, 2009 10:29 PM

    Why…WHY do so many of you come here to read about rumors, and then complain when you find them?

  12. PayDoh says: Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM

    Why are people ragging on Florio? The dude updates the site all the time, of course every story isn’t going to be a big deal. This is no more important than Roman Oben speaks out against Limbaugh or Favre “just dropped an F5″. If you haven’t read that story, google “Favre just dropped an F5″, legendary.
    Florio just keep the updates going, most of us can filter through and deem what we want as “important”.
    The interesting thing is Adrian Peterson busted someone’s eye enough that some feel it should have been on the injury report, dude is like that commercial more and more each day, straight reptilian style he cut him.

  13. SeantheFinFan says: Nov 3, 2009 10:34 PM

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME FLORIO….. DUDE I LIKE ALOT OF YOUR BLOGS, BUT COME ON THIS IS GARBAGE

  14. JaredAllen69 says: Nov 3, 2009 10:35 PM

    Face it, nobody is full of more Fahu than you are flim flam Florio. With the exception of Bob Nelson of course.

  15. CanadianVikingFan says: Nov 3, 2009 10:37 PM

    I want to see a video show up of this. Tahi has 37lbs over AP, but Adrian is a beast who bench presses Pat Williams for fun.

  16. leatherneck says: Nov 3, 2009 10:40 PM

    Yeah, if Tahi played, the Vikings would have been ripped apart by the Packers 49-0.
    OK that was sarcastic.

  17. nato2424 says: Nov 3, 2009 11:10 PM

    if the vikings would have lost this wo uld have been a bigger deal. Vikings fans are a joke now made up of brad childress wanabees and, oh shit we we got the best RB in the league thats an easy team to like

  18. Stuff-it says: Nov 3, 2009 11:17 PM

    Hey Florio,
    It’s a giant conspiracy!
    Between Tahi cheating and Jeff Dugan playing in his place and catching a touchdown (that you don’t think was one) makes me think that the Viking organization is out to get you. I know they are trying to make you look worse than you already are. Someday it will all come to light and you will be hailed as the hero you think you are!
    Until then maybe you should quit taking Star Caps, as they are a really bad diuretic that is now being looked at by congress. You don’t want to get caught up in that pissing contest.

  19. hayfro says: Nov 3, 2009 11:22 PM

    This is the stupidest story I’ve read from this site…oh wait…the one that Moss wants to come back to Minny was even lamer.
    I enjoy PFT, but this really is a stretch. Chilly is the most by the book coach there is.

  20. Lost says: Nov 3, 2009 11:51 PM

    The beat writers who reported the incident but clearly weren’t keen on outing AD’s role in the incident.
    Any team would want to protect its players and coaches from embarrassment to the extent of omitting mention of abrasions and contusions from the medical report.
    Would just have adding ‘eye contusion’ to Tahi’s medical report on Saturday have been sufficient?

  21. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 4, 2009 12:08 AM

    nato2424 says:
    Vikings fans are a joke now made up of brad childress wanabees and, oh shit we we got the best RB in the league thats an easy team to like
    _____________________________________
    Well, I agree with most of your post.. You most certainly do have the best RB, and one of, if not the best OL. Your fans are a joke too. That said, who the fucack would WANT to be Brad Childress?? Brad Childress doesn’t even want to be Brad Childress, hence all the wigs and dressing in drag (with a beard). I would LOVE to hear an explanation on this one.

  22. Twiz says: Nov 4, 2009 12:11 AM

    What I am trying to figure out is when Lord Florio had time to get a medical degree since he claims to know so much about medical issues……
    No wonder he failed as an atty!

  23. Opie says: Nov 4, 2009 1:08 AM

    “In our own experience with eye injuries, the area around the eye tends to swell pretty damn quickly, or not at all.”
    Not for nothing, but I’d love to hear about your “experience” with eye contusions. That, in hindsight, might be more than a little “silly” for you to say……unless, maybe, you actually received that visit from Channing Crowder?!?

  24. Mindworm says: Nov 4, 2009 6:55 AM

    >>In our own experience with eye injuries, the area around the eye tends to swell pretty damn quickly, or not at all.

  25. Bob Nelson says: Nov 4, 2009 7:33 AM

    Brad Childress just doesn’t have much locker room control. This sounds a lot like first round pick Erasmus James getting into fights in the locker room in the past. Now it is first round pick Peterson starting fights in the locker room. Punching your teammate in the face is not “wrestling”.
    This is the same Peterson that stole the car keys from another player’s locker earlier in the season and then stole his car.
    There are several things here the league should take an interest in because there is a pattern of bad behavior.

  26. Crushitlong says: Nov 4, 2009 8:20 AM

    A Wrestling match ?? On a Saturday?? With the best running back in the league?? Who the hell believes that ??

  27. Greg from Louisiana says: Nov 4, 2009 8:38 AM

    I think AP punched him out for not getting out of his way in the running game. Tahi is a lousy blocker and throwing him a pass is a wasted down. Is Richardson still available?

  28. zygi milf says: Nov 4, 2009 9:42 AM

    Bob Nelson says:
    November 4, 2009 7:33 AM
    Brad Childress just doesn’t have much locker room control. This sounds a lot like first round pick Erasmus James getting into fights in the locker room in the past. Now it is first round pick Peterson starting fights in the locker room. Punching your teammate in the face is not “wrestling”.
    This is the same Peterson that stole the car keys from another player’s locker earlier in the season and then stole his car.
    There are several things here the league should take an interest in because there is a pattern of bad behavior.
    **************
    Bob – you are so full of shit. I love how you interpret the facts and skew them into the bile that comes out of your fingertips and into your comments.
    1) Where is your source that this was a fight?
    2) Have you ever been in a wrestling match – either for real or for fun? It is very easy to get poked in the eye – especially if both participants are not real wrestlers.
    3) The stolen car thing is a prank, you moron.
    4) Pattern? What pattern? Maybe the league should look at the Packers. Leading the league in penalties shows quite a lack of discipline. I believe the Vikings are still the LEAST penalized team in the league. Childress has pretty good control of his players. You like to live in the past.
    Feel free to lick a door handle and get H1N1. I’m sure even all of the Packer posters would appreciate it.

  29. sand0 says: Nov 4, 2009 10:07 AM

    The condition of swollen eye that kept him out was discovered on Sunday. The team reported his inactive status on Sunday.
    You imply that reporting it mid afternoon rather than early morning is a violation of NFL rules. But is it? That really is the question here. Does reporting his inelligibility 3 hours after you first discovered the swollen eye condition violate the rules?
    I don’t know that you ever really even bring that all important question up. Probably because you don’t know the answer to it. Hack journalism 101?
    Plus there is no comparison to the Favre incident of last season. The Jets knew about his condition for much longer than Sunday morning before one game. They never reported it. Tahi’s was reported the same day it was discovered, albeit hours later.

  30. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 4, 2009 10:12 AM

    Coming from a Packers fan…
    I couldn’t care less about the injury report angle of this. Did it offer any competitive advantage to the Vikings to conceal that their starting FB would be replaced by a backup TE? No. None. Would it have changed the Packers’ preparation for the game? Not one bit.
    And that was a TD. Maybe not by today’s rules, but those rules are garbage. Control of the ball, two feet down, “football moves”, ball breaks the plane. It’s a TD. This whole “going to the ground” rule after the receiver has establish control of the ball AND two feet down should be stricken from the rule books. In my opinion, these stupid rules changes are a direct result of instant replay. Another reason for me to hate instant replay.
    Having said that, it will be interesting to see how the team/league handle this situation. Given that it’s Adrian Peterson and it sounds like it was just “horseplay”, nothing will probably come of it. But players have been suspended from games for injuring their teammates. If it truly was just an accident while messing around, then there’s nothing. If it was more than that, the league ought to look into it.
    I’ll say one thing.. If the reverse had happened and Tahi injured Peterson while messing around, then Tahi would probably be in some hot water with Vikings management. And that’s messed up.

  31. choo choo says: Nov 4, 2009 10:20 AM

    How do compare the Tahi situation with the Jets and Favre last year? Tahi gets a cut on Saturday and the next day they have to make him inactive. Its simple to see how something happened in such a short time frame and they didn’t report it immediately. In the Jets case they didn’t report the Favre injury for like 6 weeks at the end of the season. The Tahi situation would have no effect on the game, because Tahi didn’t even play. In Jets situation, it may helped the opponents to know that Favre was injured going into those games. Plus how do you not report something for 6 weeks vs. one night in Tahi’s case? Not even a close comparison. Florio you’ve become a joke lately.

  32. purpleguy says: Nov 4, 2009 10:27 AM

    Yeah, failing to anticipate that a cut above the eye would swell the evening before the game is an inexcusable breach of valued NFL injury-reporting policy. The absence of Tahi, and the countless wasted hours of Pack defensive game planning undertaken to counter such a dangerous offensive weapon, likely was the difference in Sunday’s game.

  33. swede700 says: Nov 4, 2009 10:36 AM

    Bob likes to twist facts to suit his own Puker agenda. Please Bob, before you bring in that kind of bile, back it up with real facts, not assumptions. There was no evidence of a “fight” between Tahi and AD, nor was there evidence that he was “punched in the face.” He got a cut, which swelled…it doesn’t have to have come from a punch.
    On your other “evidence”, Erasmus James is no longer on the team, and no longer in the league. There has never been another incident like that in the locker-room since. To suggest that Childress doesn’t have “control” of the locker-room is ridiculous. He certainly has more control of the locker-room with Favre in it than your beloved Pukers did when he was there.

  34. purpleguy says: Nov 4, 2009 10:50 AM

    I hate to respond to anything Bob says, but exactly which NFCN lockeroom now has the “schism” with players questioning the coaching staff and upper management (hint, it’s pretty much the whole defensive squad)? Which team is the most penalized? Which team had players making key dead ball personal fouls Sunday? And thus, which team lacks discipline directly caused by a coaching staff that obviously can’t control its players?

  35. launcher says: Nov 4, 2009 11:06 AM

    Bob Nelson – STFU.
    Nuff said.

  36. Youngs79 says: Nov 4, 2009 11:16 AM

    Hey Florio,
    Sorry I was critical of you and this story. Maybe now, I can get posted, since you wouldn’t post my earlier posting. Free speech doesn’t live at this site.

  37. DCViking says: Nov 4, 2009 11:29 AM

    For the final word on Bob Nelson, let’s go to Bob Nelson who left this post a couple days ago:
    ——————————————–
    Bob Nelson says: November 2, 2009 3:30 PM
    People will always speculate on events where little information is known.
    ———————————————
    As always keep in mind, this is the same dolt who said (among other things):
    Brett Favre would never play in Minnesota
    Kevin and Pat Williams would be suspended by now several times and lose each step in the legal process
    Percy Harvin was a first round bust (for among other reasons) that his contract was rejected by the league
    The Vikings O-line would fall apart without Matt Birk

  38. texasPHINSfan says: Nov 4, 2009 11:46 AM

    mike, i think there is a distinct difference between these two instances.
    Tahi’s issue is a one-time horseplay thing that was reported in time, albeit not expunged upon. it doesn’t matter as he didn’t play anyway.
    the Favre issue from last year is a team showing continued purposely abusing of the injury report by not reporting anything for 17 weeks.
    **1 week last minute correction to a report compared to blatant 17 weeks of disregard for the report.**
    sounds like a big difference to me. mountain out of a molehill, my friend

  39. purplejesus28 says: Nov 4, 2009 12:37 PM

    maybe i’m alone on this, by i do think it messed the packers game plan up. they used the tape from the previous few weeks and were totally prepared for an ill-advised 1-yard screen to the fullback to be used several times this game. i agree with Greg from LA. AD punched that dude. but i think chilli sent him to do it after he went on the radio and was talking about the ROY and his illness.

  40. CanadianVikingFan says: Nov 4, 2009 12:44 PM

    Bob Nelson who?

  41. EPVikes says: Nov 4, 2009 12:53 PM

    Florio,
    What’s the big deal? Can’t a team put anybody they want on the inactive roster? Even guys that don’t show up on the injury report? I think that happens every Sunday with every team. If they wanted to put AD on the inactive roster I think that they can do that.

  42. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Nov 4, 2009 12:53 PM

    purpleguy says:
    November 4, 2009 10:27 AM
    Yeah, failing to anticipate that a cut above the eye would swell the evening before the game is an inexcusable breach of valued NFL injury-reporting policy. The absence of Tahi, and the countless wasted hours of Pack defensive game planning undertaken to counter such a dangerous offensive weapon, likely was the difference in Sunday’s game.
    ——————————
    Exactly my point. Florio’s stirring the pot. Now, if information comes out that suggests this wasn’t just an honest mistake and there was some struggle between Tahi and Peterson, that would be different. But until something like that happens, this post is nothing more than slapping something against the wall and seeing if it will stick.

  43. Darron says: Nov 6, 2009 10:40 AM

    Don’t worry. Soon Favre will start talking about this injury too!

  44. J.Cannon says: Nov 11, 2009 8:15 PM

    @Bluffcaller LMFAO!

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