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Harbaugh: "Cowboys are everything that's wrong with the NFL"

Ravens coach John Harbaugh experienced the Eagles-Cowboys rivalry for nine years as a member of the Eagles staff.  And he came up with some strong opinions on the differences between the Andy Reid era Eagles and the Jerry Jones-led Cowboys.

ESPN’s Matt Mosley points out a timely excerpt from a new book on the Eagles by Reuben Frank and Mark Eckel.  Harbaugh was asked why the Eagles have had so much more success than the Cowboys over the last decade.

“Why is that? Because what Andy Reid and his program stand for the
opposite of what the Cowboys stand for. The Cowboys are a star system.
It’s all about building around individuals first and collecting talent,
collecting great players,” Harbaugh said. 

“Andy has always been about building a team.
And over the long haul, it’s a team sport, and one of the greatest
examples of that is what’s happened with the Eagles and the Cowboys
over the last 10 years. The Cowboys stand for everything that’s wrong
with the NFL.”

Ouch. 

The quote might be bulletin board material even though Harbaugh has moved on to the Ravens — where he delivered a devastating loss to Dallas in the final game at Texas Stadium.

Baltimore doesn’t face Dallas again this year, so Harbaugh’s words probably won’t have staying power.  Still, it’s safe to say he won’t be interviewing with Jerry Jones if he’s ever looking for a job again.

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  1. DMurph says: Nov 6, 2009 1:05 PM

    Roy Williams. Case closed.

  2. iraselwin says: Nov 6, 2009 1:05 PM

    “Eagles have had so much more success than the Cowboys over the last decade”
    What success???? NO superbowls by either team. Thats the only success that counts.
    This guy is an idiot.

  3. Bills=Heartbreak says: Nov 6, 2009 1:06 PM

    As a Bills fan I totally agree with this statement. He’s a money hunger douche bag who would rather line his pockets than have the league suceed overall. Can’t wait till Jones gets arrested for tax evasion.

  4. chapnasty says: Nov 6, 2009 1:07 PM

    Hey Philly losers, enjoy your 10,000 losses, 3 World Series in 120 years and 0 Super Bowls… Sorry but it had to be said, and it will be said for another 25 years before your sh*tty city wins anything again

  5. PhillyHouse says: Nov 6, 2009 1:07 PM

    Although I hate the cowboys with a passion, I disagree with Harbaugh’s statement. I think guys like Jerry Jones and Steinbrenner get unjust criticism for trying to do one thing…WIN.
    Also, spending money is the way to do it. Of course you need nebulous stuff like “team chemistry” and “leadership,” but if you ain’t got talent, you ain’t got a shot for the ring.
    And you know I’m not biased because I’m a diehard Eagles fan, and my Phils just lost to the Yanks.

  6. DemocratsAreStupid says: Nov 6, 2009 1:07 PM

    that is awesome! harbaugh is a class guy so his words are meaningful

  7. Hap says: Nov 6, 2009 1:07 PM

    That used to be the case and by the way, Jerry/Dallas have 3 Super Bowl rings. How many do Andy /Lugie have ?

  8. RioFastRacer says: Nov 6, 2009 1:08 PM

    Ridiculous. How many SuperBowls have the Eagles won? To be that statement about the Eagles having more success over the last 10 years means crap nothing…..you either win it or you don’t. To me making the playoffs 9 out 10 years and never winning the big prize is just as shotty as not making the playoffs in 10 years. As a fan only the big trophy means anything!

  9. EskinSux says: Nov 6, 2009 1:09 PM

    In a rare occurance……Vegas has posted odds on this blurb……Vox’s response’s are right now at over/under 25…….And Bill in Dc’s response is even money whether Harbaugh would say it to anyone’s face…….And 44-6 is meaningless, I realize that……but 14-6…in 10 years, means Harbaugh has a point……

  10. birdmancometh says: Nov 6, 2009 1:09 PM

    Haha, love it John. You’ll always be an Eagle at heart. That Andy Reid tree is looking better all the time…

  11. Bill In DC says: Nov 6, 2009 1:10 PM

    So, let me get this straight. The Eagles signing TO was not ‘collecting talent’, but when Dallas signed him it was?
    I don’t think what Harbaugh says makes a whole lot of sense. He’s describing the Redskins more so than Dallas as far as I can see.

  12. chapnasty says: Nov 6, 2009 1:10 PM

    Apparently Harbaugh is dumber than everyone originally though. I mean, Romo was an undrafted free agent, Barber, Jones, Choice, Witten, Newman, Jenkins half the O-line, the 2/3’s the D-Line, 3 LB’s ALL of their receivers with the exception of douche Roy, have all been draft picks developed. Harbaugh just lost all of his credibility.

  13. cannoli says: Nov 6, 2009 1:13 PM

    As a Cowboys fan, he’s right. It’s all Jerry’s fault too. Hopefully Stephen will take over sooner rather than later. He at least seems to have a good idea on how to run a team. Ever since Jerry fired Jimmy Johnson, it’s been one HUGE mistake after another….Barry Switzer….anointing Quincy Carter the QB of the future…. letting Emmitt go… all the horrible drafting. It’s been difficult to be a fan over the last decade.

  14. mustbechris says: Nov 6, 2009 1:14 PM

    I literally can’t wait to see what Vox Veritas’s response to this is. I’ll be waiting.

  15. Jag4Life says: Nov 6, 2009 1:14 PM

    Harbough is right. Just b/c you’re on TV everyday and the media whores surrounds all of the cameras around you don’t mean sh@t if you can’t win. Jerry Jones is too busy trying to pay for his plastic surgery and pay for that $1.2 Billion WASTE OF MONEY stadium to worry about winning. Dallas has mediorce talent, but b/c you see them on TV all day makes you think they are better than what they are. What is really crazy is 5-6 primetime games a year regardless of their previous year record is ridiculous. Let’s trying making the playoff first, then maybe winning one before you are annointed THE CHOSEN TEAM!!!!!!!!!!

  16. AirlineGuy says: Nov 6, 2009 1:15 PM

    So Andy has done it “right” by building a team?
    So tell me what Philly has won in the last decade that Dallas hasn’t? A few playoff games?
    I realize that playoff wins are all Philly can hang their hat on, but give me a break. Until a team can win a Superbowl they are just pretenders. Philly has had plenty of time to put a Lombardi on the mantle but they always seem to CHOKE!
    But I guess as long as they CHOKE as a team, fans are content.

  17. Trolltoll says: Nov 6, 2009 1:15 PM

    You have earned my respect Harbaugh.
    On a similar note; I am loving how players and staff are opening up and telling the truth. (Porter)

  18. Contra says: Nov 6, 2009 1:16 PM

    I’ve always said the Cowboys are the Yankees of the NFL.

  19. The Wishbone says: Nov 6, 2009 1:17 PM

    And if Andy Reid understood clock management and balanced play calling, the Eagles would have rings. But instead, they’ve got ZERO.

  20. friarfan80 says: Nov 6, 2009 1:18 PM

    Sounds about right, but the Eagles shouldnt say anything, at least hte cowboys have a lombardi trophy

  21. Citizen Strange says: Nov 6, 2009 1:19 PM

    Just because the Cowboys haven’t won a playoff game since the Clinton administration doesn’t mean that Jerry Jones shouldn’t be the Cowboys GM.
    Just like Jerry says “If I could find somebody who could look me in the eye and tell me that he could do a better job of evaluating players than me I would hire him.”
    That is an actual quote and kind of explains everything.

  22. JohnnyH says: Nov 6, 2009 1:20 PM

    So let me get this straight. The Eagles don’t like the Cowboys?

  23. Kevin from Philly says: Nov 6, 2009 1:21 PM

    Roy Williams is proof positive that the Cowboys are NOT into collecting star talent.

  24. Art Vanderlay says: Nov 6, 2009 1:21 PM

    the truth hurts

  25. AbeFreshly says: Nov 6, 2009 1:21 PM

    Is it really safe to say that Harbaugh “won’t be interviewing with Jerry Jones if he’s ever looking for a job again”, Gregg?
    What if Jerry wants to actually “build a team” in the future?

  26. MrHumble says: Nov 6, 2009 1:23 PM

    It’s refreshing to hear someone in a position like Harbaugh’s to not be afraid to tell it like it is. It is otherwise far to common for the “experts” to dance around the tough topics because they are afraid of stepping on toes and worrying that it could come back to bite them. If players, coaches etc. need to twist simple comments and truths in order to get “bulletin board material” etc. then how professional are they that they need to stoop to that type of motivation. Kudos to Harbaugh and I’m a Vikings fan so not a Raven’s homer.

  27. Jim Naizeeum says: Nov 6, 2009 1:24 PM

    He is correct about the past 10 years…but nothing other than the current season means anything.
    Even the 44-6 but whoopin last December, that kept them out of the playoffs, means nothing this season.

  28. NachoBidness says: Nov 6, 2009 1:25 PM

    I’m sure in two years when they do play again that you’ll post this blurb like it was written days before the game.

  29. WhySoSerious says: Nov 6, 2009 1:27 PM

    yeah, damn dallas and their murdering linebackers. oh wait.

  30. Bondman4u says: Nov 6, 2009 1:31 PM

    Funny thing is John, Jerry has 3 rings and you and Andy have combined for none. End of story. The Rooney family has six. Worry about them. Its about Super bowl wins not Championship game flops

  31. ec420de says: Nov 6, 2009 1:32 PM

    How can it be bulletin material when this has nothing to do with the Eagles since harbaugh is in Baltimore? Dumb comment Florio plus Harbaugh is correct considering the last time I looked the cowgirls have not won a playoff game in over a decade and seem to choke when the pressure is on like they will Sunday night. Maybe they should take Harbaugh’s advice and build a real TEAM.

  32. NagaSwan says: Nov 6, 2009 1:33 PM

    Cowboys always get all the focus! Come on the Redskins are just as poorly run. I know we won a Playoff game in the past decade, but it was with the least offense of all time in a play off win! We can embarass ourselves more while achieving a missleading amount of success! Give Dark Heart his dues, otherwise he’ll cry until he finds the next overpaid one year overachiever to make it seem like he knows how to get the best of the best.

  33. Grulks says: Nov 6, 2009 1:34 PM

    I’m a Dallas fan, and will admit that there -is- some truth to this (star system).
    However, Harbaugh should stick to things he knows about, which does not involve superbowl rings. Jerry Jones on the other hand, has three of them.
    For everyone about to say its been 37,523 days since Dallas won a playoff game, come up with something new. Besides, when the last three playoff games you lose were ALL to teams that went on to the Super Bowl, there’s no dishonor in that.

  34. hayward giablommi says: Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM

    Perhaps, but I’d say the Redskins and their dreadful ownership, mismanagement, stadium experience, fan relations, etc., are easily in the running for everything wrong with the NFL.
    To be honest, I don’t really get all the hatred for the Cowboys here and in football circles. Other than their egomaniacal owner, their monstrosity of a stadium and free agent splashes here and there, they are largely irrelevant.

  35. LiveNBreatheFootball says: Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM

    Yeah, the Eagles built a team instead of stars. That is why McNabb has such a good supporting cast. Please, that team is all about McNabb and keeping him happy.
    Signing Vick wasn’t about building a team either. It was about getting a name to challenge McNabb to finally give up the spotlight.

  36. ec420de says: Nov 6, 2009 1:36 PM

    You cowgirls fans kill me, you are saying you would rather not have won a playoff game in the last 10 years then had all the success the Eagles have (except winning a SB) I knew cowgirl fans were dumb but this takes the cake. How did the last game the eagles whipped on the cowgirls make you feel since you are basically saying you were glad to be on the receiving end of that butt kicking (just like this week). losers

  37. AirlineGuy says: Nov 6, 2009 1:37 PM

    Andy is an awesome teacher, just ask his kids. You can find them in county lockup with all the other druggies.

  38. Vikingsfaninpa says: Nov 6, 2009 1:38 PM

    iraselwin says:
    November 6, 2009 1:05 PM
    Eagles have had so much more success than the Cowboys over the last decade”
    What success???? NO superbowls by either team. Thats the only success that counts.
    This guy is an idiot.
    Son you are an idiot.
    Making your team relevant for 10 years and having your team either in the playoffs and advancing in the playoffs is success.
    The Eagles have been very successful and have only missed the playoffs 1 or 2 seasons is great success. you are either an idiot or a Cowboys fan.
    You obviously dont pay close enough attention to the game of FOOTBALL.

  39. chapnasty says: Nov 6, 2009 1:38 PM

    Philly fans, of any sport are the reason sports fans sometimes get bad raps. They are obviously retarded and cant look at facts. As I stated in a previous post, what big name guy has Jerry Brought in in recent memory? T.O. and Roy Williams oh and the Pacman experiment. Everyone else has been young or draft picks they developed. Just because Jerry tried to bring in some free agent playmakers to be the “final” piece doesnt take anything away, in fact it just shows he is willing to go out and get that last piece. The Eagles can have their Captain Letdown QB.

  40. EskinSux says: Nov 6, 2009 1:39 PM

    Harbaugh just lost all of his credibility.
    ——————————————-
    Yes, NFL head coaches who lose credibility on an NFL blog, by commenters, jump off bridges daily…..LMAO

  41. andres says: Nov 6, 2009 1:41 PM

    Very well, first of all it is quite acceptable to say that the eagles have dominated the cowboys this past 10 years. Second of all, I’m sure Andy Reid was all about team when got Vick this past offseason, not about “collecting great players” at all. Third, who does this idiot think he is???I certainly don’t see any rings in his fingers, (or on Reid’s as a head coach for that matter) How can one of the most successful franchises in NFL history be “everything that’s wrong about the NFL”. What, you have one good rookie year as a head coach (in which, granted, he utterly defeated the Cowboys) and you get the right to judge how the cowboys build teams. The bottom line is that this guy is out of line and his arguments are stupid.

  42. ec420de says: Nov 6, 2009 1:42 PM

    Livenbreath football you better take a breath of air, what are you talking you are about to see the supporting cast Sunday night and considering we have no supporting cast how was it we have won 11 of the 16 games we have played against the cowgirls?

  43. Cobra Commander says: Nov 6, 2009 1:47 PM

    While winning a Super Bowl is the benchmarks of success in the NFL (to each his own), I find it both amazing and hilarious the level of rationalizing the Cowboys fans are demonstrating in this thread.
    So, if I may speak on behalf of Coach Harbaugh, “The Cowboys FANS are the epitome of everything that is wrong in the NFL.”

  44. Mike Vick, Pet Detective says: Nov 6, 2009 1:48 PM

    Harbaugh really is an Eagle at heart. Championships mean nothing to him, either.
    17,847 days since the Eagles have won a championship. Harbaugh wasn’t even born yet.
    Yea, that’s really something to be proud of. It’s like the French bragging about their military.

  45. ec420de says: Nov 6, 2009 1:48 PM

    hayward you are exactly correct but it is the stupid arrogance of the cowgirl fans talking trash when their team has been so bad for so long that pissses everyone off. They have done nothing in over 10 years and continue to talk about the SB they won in the 80’s when most of the immature fans posting probably were not even born yet, just like this year they have done nothing and from the posts you would think they won the last 10 SB’s.

  46. WhySoSerious says: Nov 6, 2009 1:49 PM

    Lets focus on this season alone, since this season is all that matters. Cowboys bring in how many big names? Roy was last season. Eagles bring in Vick. Hmmm….

  47. kravon says: Nov 6, 2009 1:50 PM

    What success???? NO superbowls by either team. Thats the only success that counts.
    This guy is an idiot.
    ————————————————
    By your logic then only 1 team each year is successful.
    Who again is the idiot?

  48. mooremi9 says: Nov 6, 2009 1:50 PM

    The redskins have more playoff wins then the cowboys in the past 10 years………….nuff said.
    Redskins=Poop
    Cowboys=Diarrhea

  49. DiamondDuq says: Nov 6, 2009 1:54 PM

    That’s funny. I seem to recall when building around several stars worked out pretty well for the Cowboys. Do Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin ring any bells? Let’s see, the teams built around those three won 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. How many Super Bowls do the Eagles have? Thank you. Case closed!

  50. Mike Vick, Pet Detective says: Nov 6, 2009 1:59 PM

    Chapnasty, don’t give these losers too much credit. The Phillies have only won 2 World Series in 126 years.

  51. WhySoSerious says: Nov 6, 2009 2:00 PM

    Once an eagle, always an idiot.

  52. russrpm says: Nov 6, 2009 2:04 PM

    Sounds like sour grapes from someone who was the second choice for HC to Jason Garrett.

  53. andres says: Nov 6, 2009 2:05 PM

    @ec420de
    Hey stupid the Cowboys won superbowls in 1992, 1993 and 1995, none in the 80’s. And let’s see the eagles won their last superbowl…nope we have to go way back to 1960.

  54. Steeler4life says: Nov 6, 2009 2:06 PM

    Well said, Harbaugh

  55. AbeFreshly says: Nov 6, 2009 2:08 PM

    How dare you leave my Raiders out of all this “everything that’s wrong with the NFL” talk, Gregg.

  56. birdmancometh says: Nov 6, 2009 2:08 PM

    Mike Vick, Pet Detective – Why don’t you spend more time rooting for your team? The fact that you used your hatred of Vick and the Eagles to define yourself on here speaks volumes about your lack of loyalty for your own team.
    I understand the Cowboy fans pulling out the Super Bowl card and it’s a fair point, but no honest football fan can argue that the Eagles are anything other than a top 5 organization. They do it the right way and 95% of the league would trade what they have for Lurie, Banner, Reid, Roseman, and Heckert.

  57. mixman34 says: Nov 6, 2009 2:11 PM

    Spot on, Dallas is an Fn clown show.

  58. Steeler4life says: Nov 6, 2009 2:14 PM

    @kravon
    Who again is the idiot?
    Jerruh Jones is the idiot.

  59. seventy7 says: Nov 6, 2009 2:14 PM

    Harbaugh must still be high from the smack that Andy Reids kids hooked him up with.

  60. trekntex says: Nov 6, 2009 2:16 PM

    I’ve heard all the hate over the many years that I’ve been a Cowboys fan. Yep, Jerry’s ego is all that everyone says it is. But, I still root for my team just like all of you root for yours. GO Cowboys.
    Quietly winning some games.

  61. BigDogWes says: Nov 6, 2009 2:17 PM

    Wow, another lame attack on the Cowboys and Jerry. While their fortunes have not been successful lately they are the most valued team in the NFL ($ wise), sport a new state of the art stadium, own 5 Superbowl rings, and are the Yankees of Football. I’ll take that any day over your so called success in Philly. akebe if he had said Pittsbugh his analogy would have had merit.
    No need to wait for Vox…Dallas has other fans who appreciate an owner who trys to win!

  62. SlaveToBankers says: Nov 6, 2009 2:19 PM

    44 – 6

  63. Outsyder says: Nov 6, 2009 2:20 PM

    I love ill-informed commenters. Yes, Jerry has 3 Super Bowls. Thanks to Jimmy Johnson’s talent evaluations. The only smart moves Jerry has ever made is hire Johnson and, to a lesser extent, hire Parcells.
    Jimmy brought in all that talent except for Irvin (kind of hard for Jerry to get that pick wrong on his own). Parcells brought in all their talent now. Parcells, with the help of Sean Payton, brought in Romo. Payton was trying to grab Romo from the Cowboys before Brees fell into his lap. Parcells was smart enough to bench Bledsoe and show Romo’s talent. Imagine if he had left a year earlier. Jerry would have dumped Romo to the Saints for a bag of chips.
    Jerry has never been a great talent evaluator. When he’s had two of some of the greatest talent evaluators ever in the NFL, he’s had good players. But their issues are all on him. Despite all this talent, he hired a guy like Wade Phillips. The guy has never won no matter where he goes. He looks dumb-founded in big game situations. And he and any team that hires him will always be haunted by the “Curse of Doug Flutie”.

  64. BigDogWes says: Nov 6, 2009 2:24 PM

    The Eagles are a disgrace to the NFC East. No Superbowl wins. That is why you play the game year after year. If you want credit for just being in the league then you are trully successful. Jerry Jones spent the time to raise his son right. What about Andy? No wins at home and no Superbowl wins…some success.

  65. Scott P says: Nov 6, 2009 2:25 PM

    The Harbaughs have always be idiotic outspoken blowhard numskulls. Jim must have been on his third Dewars and Water when he said his QB was the best in the country. This comment by brother John is equally moronic, but pretty much par for the course for those two. John has been in a coach for less then 2 years and already popping off. He has a lot to learn, no question. Jerry (and his team) won’t forget that line.

  66. jan van flac says: Nov 6, 2009 2:26 PM

    face it…the Cowboys have been colossal underachievers since the 90’s. That’s 15 years. Every year they are crowned champions in training camp and every year they start off fast and then choke on it.
    I would rather be a fan of a team which ALWAYS contends (half of the current eagles roster was on a team which came within 3 points of winning a superbowl and has been to a 2nd NFCG) to a team whose players have only seen the playoffs on TV.

  67. Ottawa RoughRiders says: Nov 6, 2009 2:27 PM

    Hey Dingleberries, this is a quote from a book.
    This is not Harbaugh making a new statement, this book
    has quotes from Eagles past and present going back 15 years.
    The stupid outrage that fans and media portray whenever someone
    has an opinion is preventing coaches, players and people in general from being honest on a regular basis
    What success have the cowboys had in the last 15 years. Zip Nada, bumpkus. If you think that the cowboys system works then good for you, but you are not looking honestly at the stats.

  68. Scott P says: Nov 6, 2009 2:28 PM

    The Harbaughs have always be idiotic outspoken blowhard numskulls. Jim must have been on his third Dewars and Water when he said his QB was the best in the country. This comment by brother John is equally moronic, but pretty much par for the course for those two. John has been in a coach for less then 2 years and already popping off. He has a lot to learn, no question. Jerry (and his team) won’t forget that line.

  69. dakotah says: Nov 6, 2009 2:31 PM

    I think the Cowboys star system (Aikman, Smith, Irvin) worked just fine when they had a strong coach (Johnson). Unfortunately, JJ has decided that having a strong coach takes away from him being the center of attention. Hopefully when Stephen Jones takes over this will change.

  70. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:33 PM

    “As a Bills fan I totally agree with this statement. He’s a money hunger douche bag who would rather line his pockets than have the league suceed overall.”
    Quick quiz: Only one NFL owner has decided to forego lucrative stadium naming rights deals and instead named his 100% publicly funded stadium after himself, and went on to declare that he deserves to line his pockets with a share of other stadium naming rights deals that other team owners might negotiate. This same owner has negotiated a deal to play some of his team’s home games in Canada. Who is this NFL owner?
    The answer is: Ralph Wilson. He’s screwing you in the pooper and you’re begging for more.

  71. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:35 PM

    “Ever since Jerry fired Jimmy Johnson, it’s been one HUGE mistake after another….Barry Switzer”
    Barry Switzer’s got one more Super Bowl ring (and three national championship rings) than Harbaugh and Reid will ever have as coaches.

  72. Kevin from Philly says: Nov 6, 2009 2:36 PM

    Abe,
    He doesn’t include the Raiders, because they’ve won playoff games in the last ten years.

  73. raiderrob21 says: Nov 6, 2009 2:36 PM

    How much is Jason Garrett making to call shitty plays? Nuff said

  74. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:39 PM

    “Harbough is right. Just b/c you’re on TV everyday and the media whores surrounds all of the cameras around you don’t mean sh@t if you can’t win. Jerry Jones is too busy trying to pay for his plastic surgery and pay for that $1.2 Billion WASTE OF MONEY stadium to worry about winning.”
    haha a JAGs fan talking about a wasted stadium and winning? Bitch, you can seat the crowd at Jags home games with a single set of wooden bleachers and maybe I’m on shrooms but didn’t the freaking Titans with VY leading the way just blow them out?

  75. texasPHINSfan says: Nov 6, 2009 2:40 PM

    the pointing to the superbowl wins is a tired argument guys. you can’t hang on a legacy from a team from over a decade ago when we’re talking about how teams are now.
    your sample for arguments in this case is the last 3 years, go from there.

  76. mgolden62 says: Nov 6, 2009 2:41 PM

    Well I would say that the Cowboys are almost everything that is wrong…….the only thing missing is a murderer being their middle linebacker and spokesman for the franchise for the last decade.
    As for the Eagles I must have missed their victory parade while helping the Rooney’s polish their six Lombardis.
    Truth is both those teams circled the drain of relevance in the NFL a long time ago. Harbaugh is an idiot too.

  77. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:42 PM

    “Roy Williams is proof positive that the Cowboys are NOT into collecting star talent.”
    I could say the same about the Eagirls and Jevon Kearse. And Takeo Spikes. And Donte Stallworth. And Dorsey Levens.

  78. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:45 PM

    “Making your team relevant for 10 years and having your team either in the playoffs and advancing in the playoffs is success. ”
    You’re a Vikings fan. You pretty much have to say that.

  79. sundays and beer mmmm says: Nov 6, 2009 2:45 PM

    If you could be guaranteed that your team will win 3 Super Bowls in the next 17 years would you call that successful?
    Would you take that guarantee if you were told you would not have playoff wins in 13 of those years?
    If I were a Philly fan I think I would take those 3 Super Bowls over however many playoff victories they have over the last 17 years.
    There is no consolation prize in the NFL. You are either champions or your not.

  80. samh says: Nov 6, 2009 2:46 PM

    Still, it’s safe to say he won’t be interviewing with Jerry Jones if he’s ever looking for a job again.
    Doesn’t sound like he would want to interview with the Cowboys.

  81. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:47 PM

    “considering we have no supporting cast how was it we have won 11 of the 16 games we have played against the cowgirls? ”
    You haven’t. The Cowboys have a winning record against the Eagirls. 53-43.

  82. mattitude says: Nov 6, 2009 2:47 PM

    iraselwin says:
    November 6, 2009 1:05 PM
    Eagles have had so much more success than the Cowboys over the last decade”
    ———————————————
    So, by your logic the Patriots 2007 season was equivalent to the Lions 2008 season?

  83. Kevin from Philly says: Nov 6, 2009 2:48 PM

    BigDog,
    Are you even going to be posting here again when the Eagles win. You’re just another one of these Cowboys fans that post here for a few weeks until they pull the December Dive and then never show up again. Do us all a favor and disappear now, so you beat the rush.

  84. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:48 PM

    “While winning a Super Bowl is the benchmarks of success in the NFL (to each his own)”
    As if that’s a minority opinion.

  85. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:50 PM

    “hayward you are exactly correct but it is the stupid arrogance of the cowgirl fans talking trash when their team has been so bad for so long that pissses everyone off.”
    Wow, you’d think that it was the Cowboys that have the all-time losing record and not the Eagirls.

  86. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:52 PM

    “I understand the Cowboy fans pulling out the Super Bowl card and it’s a fair point, but no honest football fan can argue that the Eagles are anything other than a top 5 organization. They do it the right way and 95% of the league would trade what they have for Lurie, Banner, Reid, Roseman, and Heckert.”
    You are clearly delusional.

  87. PSU COWBOY says: Nov 6, 2009 2:54 PM

    Just keep attacking Jerry and the ‘Boys.
    Can’t win a big game? They crush ATL. No praise.
    Romo throws to many picks. None in the last 3 games and 8tds. No Praise.
    The Defense looked terrible to start the season. Now they are a sack and turnover machine. No praise.
    I love this hatred for the Cowboys. I would assume Mr. Harbaugh would have better things to do this week, like get ready for Cincy to kick his ass… again, then talk about a team not even on his schedule.
    As a Cowboy fan I will admit the last 10 years have been tough. But never once in that entire span of time have I ever thought Jerry didn’t want to win. T.O., Roy Williams, Joey Galloway and ect were all moves to try and win. Sometime it bites him in the ass… sometimes he wins Super Bowls 3/4 years. And that is a hell of a lot better than 99% of other teams fans can say over the last 20 years.

  88. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 2:58 PM

    “I love ill-informed commenters. Yes, Jerry has 3 Super Bowls. Thanks to Jimmy Johnson’s talent evaluations.”
    Yeah, he was so great in Miami. Aikman was at the top of everybody’s draft board. He wanted James Francis or Blair Thomas and instead had to “settle” for Emmitt Smith. Michael Irvin was already there.
    “Jimmy brought in all that talent except for Irvin (kind of hard for Jerry to get that pick wrong on his own).”
    Especially since he was drafted before Jones bought the team. So much for “ill-informed commenters”, eh?
    “The guy has never won no matter where he goes.”
    Excuse me?
    Buffalo – 29-19
    Atlanta – 2-1
    Dallas – 27-12

  89. EddieAnywhere says: Nov 6, 2009 2:58 PM

    Andy Reid sure has done things the right way in the past. Just ask his kids.

  90. meatball13 says: Nov 6, 2009 2:59 PM

    is vox jerry joneses secret lover???

  91. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:00 PM

    “face it…the Cowboys have been colossal underachievers since the 90’s. That’s 15 years.”
    The Cowboys have won a Super Bowl within the past 15 years. Buy a calculator because simple math is not your strong point.

  92. RumorMongering says: Nov 6, 2009 3:03 PM

    Eagles didn’t give up a 1st, 3rd, and 5th for Jevon, Dorsey, or Takeo. Good point. Andy Reid and Barry Switzer own the same amount of super bowl rings. Better point. Vox, with well thought out points like these it’s easy to see why you’re still in school and making less than 30k at 30 years old.

  93. Gatorfan1 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:03 PM

    Bills=Heartbreak:
    Let me get this straight?
    You believe in the premise of this article, but yet you are a fan of a team that signed the worst “example” (Owens) of that star system.
    I hope you are as active on your team’s blogs blasting your idiot owner for ever signing THAT cancer????

  94. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:06 PM

    “the pointing to the superbowl wins is a tired argument guys. you can’t hang on a legacy from a team from over a decade ago when we’re talking about how teams are now.”
    Why not? Harbaugh wants to go back ten years, you say three, who are either of you to set arbitrary windows of time and declare that it means something?

  95. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:10 PM

    “Doesn’t sound like he would want to interview with the Cowboys.”
    Harbaugh’s fine right where he is with Art Modell. And when ol’ Art decides to screw the Baltimore fans like he screwed the Cleveland fans, maybe Jim Harbaugh will comment on how Art screwed the fans the right way.

  96. JerseyJints says: Nov 6, 2009 3:11 PM

    Huge Giants fan here so I loathe both of these teams more than any others in the league, however I am very sick of hearing about how successful the eagles have been this past decade (while comparing them to the ‘boys and others). Who was the person who decided making a few NFC championship games and vomiting up the Super Bowl was success? Is that a joke? Success=winning super bowls. hate to side with Jerral on this one because I hate him but he has won many more lombardi’s than the eagles ever have, so i’m not quite sure Harbaugh’s evaluation of “success” holds water. You don’t get any points for coming close so until you win the big one eagles, just relax on tooting your own horn for being competitive.

  97. The Rural Juror says: Nov 6, 2009 3:12 PM

    The cowboys fans are right.
    Those crusty old Superbowl trophies from a few decades ago really are more important than consistent, sustained success…
    Watching Dallas collapse in November and December and helping teams like Philly and Baltimore into the playoffs really IS much more enjoyable…

  98. Spokentruth says: Nov 6, 2009 3:12 PM

    The NFL should have put the Eagles in the NFC south with all the other teams that can’t win a SB and moved the Bucs to the NFC east. The Eagles are just a drag on the division.

  99. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:13 PM

    “Eagles didn’t give up a 1st, 3rd, and 5th for Jevon, Dorsey, or Takeo.”
    So what? They didn’t give up a third for Jason Witten either and decided to give a second for LJ Smith instead. What’s your point?

  100. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:14 PM

    “Andy Reid and Barry Switzer own the same amount of super bowl rings.”
    Not as head coaches.
    “Vox, with well thought out points like these it’s easy to see why you’re still in school and making less than 30k at 30 years old.”
    You guys are really into projection, aren’t you?

  101. TheBaySay says: Nov 6, 2009 3:15 PM

    Not exactly breaking news, but still fun to hear, especially since it sets off echoes of Michael Scott blaring out “Toby Flenderson is everything that is wrong with the paper business!” But anyway, evil as they are, the Cowboys are not everything that is wrong with the NFL. The parasitic Vikings are part of what’s wrong with the NFL. And so is “London or bust, so someday I can have ‘Sir’ in front of my name” Roger Goodell. IMHO.

  102. Crazimitch says: Nov 6, 2009 3:16 PM

    Eagles and Cowboys Haters aside. If you were an Eagles fan or a Cowboys fan which record would you profer since 1999?
    97 Regular Season Wins
    62 Regular Season Losses
    1 Tie
    10 Playoff Wins
    OR
    79 Regular Season Wins
    81 Regular Season Losses
    0 Tie
    0 Playoff Wins
    And for those who say only Super Bowls matter, maybe thats true for you, but I suspect you’re not a season ticket holder then.

  103. Cujo says: Nov 6, 2009 3:24 PM

    3 Super Bowl wins under the Jerry Jones era to what Andy Reid’s team ZERO? He needs to talk if the Eagles ever seal the deal. That is all.

  104. Kwik123 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:24 PM

    Bottom Line Score:
    Dallas Cowboys 5 – Philadelphia Eagles 0
    Youze Philly guys know what I mean? You talkin’ to me?

  105. BigDogWes says: Nov 6, 2009 3:32 PM

    Kevin
    I love to debate with fans over the success of the Cowboys. Been doing it for over 40 years. The one team that has never won anything meanifull since players folded their helment when they came off the field is Philly.
    Philly since 1933
    488-530-26 19-18 in Post Season play
    Dallas since 1960
    423-309-6 32-24 in Post Season play
    your record says your team disappears quite often.

  106. PlayMaker88 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:35 PM

    This is just a guy being a hater. There is alot to dislike about the Cowboys and Jerry. Everyone knows that. But this is a winning organization with alot of pride and championships and HOF players. For a ” football guy” to disrespect that means he doesnt respect the game or its history. Oh and news flash…That great D you inherited is deteriorating. Lets see what you can build on your own perennial loser

  107. brewcrewe says: Nov 6, 2009 3:35 PM

    some big name plaers who cashed in with Philly recently:
    T.O.
    Asante Samuel
    Vick
    Kearse
    and although I know the Cowboys do sign big names, dont say the Eagles don’t.
    By the way the Cowboys have an undrafted QB, an undrafted #1 receiver, 7th round #3 receiver, 4th round RB, and a 3rd round TE.
    Only 2 1st round picks on the starting offense.
    Also , what is the worst pick the Cowboys have made……Bobby Carpenter? Out of the last 10 1st round draft picks, 4 are pro bowlers, 4 are starters. 1 has retired after a decent carreer. and 1 sucks.
    The Eagles last 10 picks: 4 pro bowlers, 3 more are starters, and 3 suck.
    So how are the Cowboys not drafting well?

  108. Ocelot138 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:36 PM

    Wow, 13 posts from Vox Veritas already on this story!
    I guess he couldn’t find anyone to play Magic: The Gathering with him today.
    And according to Dallas fans the only measure of success is a SuperBowl ring. They should stop watching football now, because the Cowgirls (OMG see what I did there aren’t I clever!?) aren’t even sniffing the Superbowl this year, or any year while Poppin’ Fresh is drawing up plays for Gomer Pyle.
    Oh, but wait, they won a championship when George Bush 1 was president, so they’re better…?

  109. Ocelot138 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:40 PM

    # Cujo says: November 6, 2009 3:24 PM
    3 Super Bowl wins under the Jerry Jones era to what Andy Reid’s team ZERO? He needs to talk if the Eagles ever seal the deal. That is all.
    ————
    Funny that you compare an owners tenure to another team’s coaches tenure… oh wait, Jerruh IS the coach, ever since he fired Parcells – which explains the unprecedented run of success your team has had in that span.

  110. Deb says: Nov 6, 2009 3:41 PM

    Harbaugh wasn’t trash-talking, he was answering a question about team-building. The Eagles have more recent playoff wins because football guys built the team from the ground up. The same is true in Pittsburgh and New England and they have five Super Bowls wins this decade.
    Meanwhile Dallas and DC, whose owners try to buy championships by buying big names (TO, Haynesworth), haven’t had that playoff success.
    Yes, Jones won three Super Bowls because he happened to go to school with Johnson, who knew how to team-build. If his overgrown ego hadn’t forced Johnson out, he’d have won five.

  111. Ocelot138 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:42 PM

    VoxVeritas says: November 6, 2009 3:14 PM
    “Vox, with well thought out points like these it’s easy to see why you’re still in school and making less than 30k at 30 years old.”
    You guys are really into projection, aren’t you?
    —————-
    What projection? We’ve all seen your Myspace page. All you have to do is google your PFT handle. You’re in your 30’s, obviously a virgin, and look like you subsist off a diet of twinkies and McDonalds fries. Not exactly Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

  112. Laxer37 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:45 PM

    Remember when the Cowboys last won a playoff game?
    Neither does anyone else.

  113. Grulks says: Nov 6, 2009 3:46 PM

    Dear PFT.com:
    please let me know when the Eagles win a Lombardi to fill me with. I’m feeling awfully dusty, and empty inside. After those four straight years of choking in the NFC East championship, I’ve decided to just go to sleep until further notice
    Signed,
    Eagles Trophy Case.

  114. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:47 PM

    “Those crusty old Superbowl trophies from a few decades ago really are more important than consistent, sustained success…”
    Oh, now you’re gonna try to tell people that the Eagirls have experienced “consistent, sustained success”? THEY ARE ON A STREAK OF ONE WINNING SEASON IN A ROW. They’ve had winning records in only two of the last four seasons. The Cowboys are riding a 4 season winning streak and with a winning season this year will have equaled the best streak the Eagirls have posted since the 40’s.

  115. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:48 PM

    “If you were an Eagles fan or a Cowboys fan which record would you profer since 1999?”
    I’d prefer the Cowboys record.
    “And for those who say only Super Bowls matter, maybe thats true for you”
    Anybody that thinks that they don’t matter is a fan of a team that has never won one.

  116. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:49 PM

    “Wow, 13 posts from Vox Veritas already on this story!”
    Wow, you’re counting my posts? What’s the matter, are there too many cops at the playground today?

  117. purple hay-seuss says: Nov 6, 2009 3:50 PM

    As a huge Vikings fan and frequent commenter on Vikings stories here, I have to speak up.
    The person claiming that Super Bowl wins is the only true measure of NFL success is an idiot.
    Billionaire team owners would very, very quickly abandon their massive investments and sell teams each and every year. 31 of them, to be exact, if SB wins were the only measure of success. 31 Coaches would be fired each and every year. 31 golden QBs would be benched in favor of the latest college golden boy in effort of getting that magical “success”. Millions of fans, every year, would dump ALL their team gear and buy stuff from the “WINNER”. Players would retire each and every year, damning their “losing teams”, begging to play for the “winner”.
    If this idiot is a fan of any other team than the Steelers, he has no leg to stand on.
    As a lifelong Vikings fan, I have heard every jab, every burp and every fart from the Beer-stained Packers fans about how they are ultimately superior to literally everyone else because of the GB “tradition of winning”.
    Use just a tiny sniff of logic and the claim that the only success in NFL football is SB wins falls laughingly away. This guy really hates the Eagles or he’s just plain that narrow-minded. I hope his kids get really, really good grades and his wife is the epitome of sexuality and homemaker, or I predict he’s perpetually in a ball in the corner of the basement screaming about the failures of humanity.

  118. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:51 PM

    “Funny that you compare an owners tenure to another team’s coaches tenure”
    That’s what Harbaugh did, freak.

  119. PlayMaker88 says: Nov 6, 2009 3:51 PM

    Oh and btw. Alot of Dallas fans are REAL fans we go thru the good AND bad with our team. We dont jump ship for a winner when the times get hard. Remember the end of the Landry era? 1-15??? It sucks sure but success here is measured in SuperBowl wins…period. Deal with it. We have

  120. NachoBidness says: Nov 6, 2009 3:52 PM

    Dang Florio, the animals always escape from the zoo whenever you post a cowboys story. It’s funny seeing that you have 102 comments and like 50 of them come from Vox spilling one tired argument after another. Uh oh. Vox is gonna write how he ONLY made 36 posts instead of 50. What a tool.

  121. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 3:53 PM

    “Meanwhile Dallas and DC, whose owners try to buy championships by buying big names (TO, Haynesworth), haven’t had that playoff success.”
    haha Kearse, Vick, Levens, Stallworth, Bettis, Moss, Seau, I could go on and on but my time is better spent telling you to get into the kitchen and make me a sandwich, stupid.

  122. Grulks says: Nov 6, 2009 3:56 PM

    “Eagles and Cowboys Haters aside. If you were an Eagles fan or a Cowboys fan which record would you profer since 1999?
    And for those who say only Super Bowls matter, maybe thats true for you, but I suspect you’re not a season ticket holder then. ”
    I guess if people had just started watching the NFL and caring about it in 1999, then those numbers would mean something. But since most people on this board have been watching the NFL a lot longer than that, it doesn’t.
    Let me put this in perspective for you.
    What team looks better to you on paper, a team that went to the superbowl 4 straight years and lost all four years, or a team that went in back to back years and won both years?
    Bottom line is that philly fans are going to thump their chest and say things like 44-6, and we own you for the last 10 years in heads up matches, and blah blah blah. Dallas fans, who have actually seen their team win superbowls (repeatedly), know that what happens in the last 10 years doesn’t make any difference. What matters is seeing your team hoist the lombardi. Everything else is a stepping stone, but until you get to that point, you haven’t achieved anything worth bragging about.
    There’s a reason that Qb’s say that individual throwing records don’t matter to them, that they don’t focus on beating Dan Marino’s records, they focus on getting to and winning the super bowl. If records get broken on the way fine, but given the choice between the two, the Lombardi is all that matters.
    So yeah, go ahead Eagirls fans, keep thinking that beating Dallas last year, or winning playoff games but choking in the big dance means something. The fact that you are using Dallas as a measuring stick is quite flattering.

  123. Mike Vick, Pet Detective says: Nov 6, 2009 4:03 PM

    Remember when the Eagles last won a Super Bowl?
    Neither does anyone else.

  124. sn@ke says: Nov 6, 2009 4:04 PM

    Harbaugh compared the Dallas system under Jerry Jones to the Eagles system under Reid. He wasn’t comparing the Roger Staubach days, so stop it with these ancient stats.
    The Eagles have a system that works. You can point to Super Bowl victories all you want as a cop out, but you can’t even get to that game without playoff wins.
    The fact of the matter is the Eagles are more likely to win a Super Bowl than Dallas any time soon, and that is a result of their consistent approach to how to build a team.
    44-6

  125. Steeler4life says: Nov 6, 2009 4:04 PM

    @ purple hay-seuss
    Could the Vikings 0-4 Superbowl record be the reason for your viewpoint???????????

  126. WhySoSerious says: Nov 6, 2009 4:16 PM

    Maybe ESPN and PFT should sue Harbaugh for plagiarism. He stole their idea that anything about the Cowboys, regardless of how absurd will bring in ratings/website hits, so why wouldnt it work on book sales?

  127. NoKoolaidCowboy says: Nov 6, 2009 4:21 PM

    A lot of the Dallas Cowboys Fans were fans before Jerry Jones bought the team. And no, the team is not perfect but then what organization is?
    Taking into account ALL of the different problems that face franchises (including blackouts and making a profit), it is hard to believe Harbaugh’s statement that the our ‘Boys are everything that is wrong with football.
    It’s easy to hate on the Cowboys when the team you root for doesn’t have a rich history.
    A lot of the negative posts here on the Cowboys are emotionally fueled. Because of what comes out of Jerry Jones’ mouth a lot of times, there is a lot of hate.

  128. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 4:22 PM

    “What projection? We’ve all seen your Myspace page. All you have to do is google your PFT handle.”
    Eagirls fans continue to prove themselves to be the dumbest animals on the planet. OMFG haha
    http://profiles.yahoo.com/ocelot138
    “INTERESTS
    * Interests: I like to hook up with other chubby buds to have some wine and watch the eagles and sixers and maybe have some fun”

  129. SlaveToBankers says: Nov 6, 2009 4:22 PM

    Since Cowgirl’s fans love bringing up the past, here is a brief history of the Eagles and Cowgirls:
    1926: The Frankford Yellow Jackets franchise (soon to be renamed The Philadelphia Eagles) wins it’s first NFL Championship. Jerry Jones father is still just a gleam in the milkman’s eye. The Dallas Cowgirls are still 34 years from being excreted out as an expansion team.
    1948: The Philadelphia Eagles win the NFL championship. Jerry Jones is a six year old boy who looks even more like the milkman than his father did. The Dallas Cowgirls are still another dozen years from being excreted out as an expansion team.
    1949: The Philadelphia Eagles win the NFL championship. Jerry Jones is now seven years old, and spends his mornings sitting on the porch wondering why his mother needs an hour alone with the milkman everyday to “talk about deliveries”. The Dallas Cowgirls are still 11 years from being excreted out as an expansion team.
    1960: The Philadelphia Eagles win the NFL championship. The Dallas “Steers” are finally excreted out as an expansion franchise. They will soon change their name to the “Rangers”, and finally to the “Cowgirls”. The Philadelphia Eagles franchise has now been in the NFL for 36 years, though their origins as a football franchise date back to 1899. It will be another 11 years before the Cowgirls’ franchise wins their first NFL championship, coming nearly 5 decades after the Philadelphia Eagles franchise won it’s first NFL championship.
    1988: After repeatedly finding the milkman under his bed, Jerry Jones overcompensates by buying the Cowgirls, and firing Tom Landry, who looks somewhat similar to the milkman. Jimmy Johnson’s hair, after eons of travel throughout the known Universe, enters low Earth orbit and starts heading slowly for Texas. It’s stupendous power helps the Cowgirls to win championships until astrophysicists determine that it cannot remain in close proximity to Jerry Jones ego, as together their colossal sizes threaten to collapse into a black hole unless they are separated.
    2008: 44 – 6.

  130. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 4:23 PM

    “The person claiming that Super Bowl wins is the only true measure of NFL success is an idiot.”
    Another Vikings fan chimes in hahaha

  131. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 4:25 PM

    “The Eagles have a system that works.”
    It works if you have very low expectations.
    13-9.

  132. Deb says: Nov 6, 2009 4:26 PM

    @purple hay-seuss … I am a Steelers fan but agree w/you on championships. I bask in our 6 SBs and Alabama’s 12 National Championships. But most of Bama’s and some of Pittsburgh’s were won before my time. I’ve gone years without, so if that’s all I cared about, I would be curled in a ball in the corner. Besides, if we won the championship every year, it wouldn’t mean anything. It’s the battles in the trenches, the fourth-quarter comebacks, the blitzes, the team traditions, the Bear, the Chief, the rivalries, the smell of napalm on gameday morning. LOVE IT ALL!!!

  133. BigDogWes says: Nov 6, 2009 4:28 PM

    “The fact of the matter is the Eagles are more likely to win a Super Bowl than Dallas any time soon, and that is a result of their consistent approach to how to build a team.”
    Dream on snake!!!

  134. Final Word says: Nov 6, 2009 4:29 PM

    Especially since he was drafted before Jones bought the team. So much for “ill-informed commenters”, eh?
    “The guy has never won no matter where he goes.”
    Excuse me?
    Buffalo – 29-19
    Atlanta – 2-1
    Dallas – 27-12
    Now that is success… Lol
    Wade Phillips Results
    NOR 1985 3rd in NFC West
    DEN 1993 3rd in AFC West
    DEN 1994 4th in AFC West – – – –
    BUF 1998 3rd in AFC East
    BUF 1999 2nd in AFC East
    BUF 2000 4th in AFC East
    BUF Total 29 19 0 .604 0 2 .000
    ATL 2003 2 1 0 .666 4rd in NFC South
    DAL 2007 1st in NFC East
    DAL 2008 3rd in NFC East
    DAL 2009 3rd in NFC East ***
    *** Given

  135. EskinSux says: Nov 6, 2009 4:30 PM

    Wait wait wait…..Unless you are mowing lawns, or pushing carts at the local food market…..Who the hell makes less than 30K a year?

  136. Deb says: Nov 6, 2009 4:40 PM

    @Vox …
    If you’re going to try to man up to me, little boy, try calling me out by name. You and I both know you’re overmatched. Best stick to your usual playmates.

  137. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 4:43 PM

    “You can point to Super Bowl victories all you want as a cop out, but you can’t even get to that game without playoff wins. ”
    Interesting that you’d mention that. Even with the drought, the Cowboys have 13 more playoff wins than the Eagirls… in spite of the Eagirls having a multiple-decade head start.

  138. purple hay-seuss says: Nov 6, 2009 4:46 PM

    Steeler4life:
    Yup. Pretty quick of you to grab that slant. You look almost as good as Sidney Rice.
    Seriously, do people out there truly believe that not winning the SB is equal to failure? Then every golfer not named Tiger is a loser. Every politician not in the Oval office is a moron, pig, bastard. Every cop NOT on COPS is bush league. Every wife that weighs more than 5 pounds over her wedding weight is a fat pig whore. Evey kid that isn’t president of their school class and QB of the FB team and at the top of the Honor Roll is a flop and will flip burgers for life. Every salesman that loses even one single customer is going to be fired. TODAY. Every single breath not taken in forward motion toward Utopia is WASTED. Every employee late to work ONE TIME is FIRED. Every unanswered prayer proves that there is NO GOD. Every single infraction of traffic laws results in a ticket. How long must I go on?
    This is all just a game.

  139. RumorMongering says: Nov 6, 2009 4:52 PM

    Vox,
    Your attempt at rebuttals were even more laughable than your original nonsensical post. Projection? You learn that in school today at U of Texas at Kingsville El Paso A&M? I happen to have a psych degree pal and when I say you’re a 30 year old undergrad making less than 30k, that isn’t projection momo, it’s a statement of fact. Reason I looked you up is you come across like some hyped up manic stay at home f’n loser using every last ditch effort in an attepmt to prove irrational and nonsensical BS. Your picture and profile solidified my belief. But if your goal is to come across as some unitelligent loner degenerate asshead than your posts and profile are spot on.

  140. mattitude says: Nov 6, 2009 4:52 PM

    Vox, how close is Romo to setting that Dallas record for most passing attempts? You were so excited when you brought it up, but I haven’t seen you refer to it recently. I hope you didn’t let rational, well-informed, autonomous, gainfully-employed men who don’t need to shave their shoulders when they wear their best wife-beater(unlike yourself) convince you that it was meaningless. You didn’t let that happen, did you?

  141. mborz says: Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM

    All this talk about how to measure success underscores one PFT fact: Homers always want to measure things in the way that’s most favorable to their own team.

  142. Gailikk says: Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM

    Very interesting. I find the fall back position of only super bowls matter a very lame argument. You idiots must be Notre Dame fans, because obviously nothing matters but those titles (from the 40s and 50s and one from the 90s, big whoop). If you guys were Englishmen you would argue that the Pax Britannica was the greatest and just because your empire fell you are still wonderful and great (your not). Also, I guess everyone forgot the Buffalo Bills from 1988-1992, yeah that team did nothing and therefore are irrelevant right? No, they are a great team from an brief period of football history. I don’t remember the Dolphins saying “oh yeah, well we have super bowls and are therefore better.” No, most fin fans spent that time trying to improve and didn’t live in the past. Ah the foolish mind’s of Dallas fan’s, always trying to remind everyone of your 5 super bowls. Just go stand in the corner with the raider fans and wait around till Jones does the second smart thing of his career and hire another great coach to win you your 6th super bowl.

  143. KingerIC3000 says: Nov 6, 2009 4:58 PM

    So if winning the superbowl is the only indicator of true success, in the last ten years, the eagles have been two wins away from a superbowl HALF of those years. While that could also be a strike against the eagles for never taking advantage, by this superbowl or bust thinking, the coyboys havent been even RELEVANT in over ten years. They havent even come close. Ill take a team that competes every year over a team that has to pull out history books and old NFL films specials to seem relevant any day of the week.
    The cowboys are the yankees of the NFL in that you either love them or hate them. and much like the yankees, one of the reasons the cowboys are so easy to hate is the sense of entitlement that their fans have because of the past. Say what you want about Jerry Jones, that hes good or bad for the game. But i dont even think a cowboys fan could argue the man is an arrogant moron who acts like he invented the game of football. I hope he gets another plastic surgery just so we dont have to see that sh*t eatin grin on the sidelines.

  144. common sense says: Nov 6, 2009 5:07 PM

    Having a QB that doesn’t barf with the SB on the line would be a good plan. Last I heard Harbaugh and the Ravens were trying to trade for TO. Philly has many SB wins as they have class! Zero!

  145. troll_aikman8 says: Nov 6, 2009 5:12 PM

    lol@Harbaugh.
    The Cowboys “star” is an undrafted quarterback.
    The Eagles acquired T.O. first.
    Of the 11 Superbowls came out of the NFC East….none of which is owned by the Eagles with their so-called dominance of the NFC.
    With all due respect to Andy Reid (a good coach and talent evaluator),
    only Superbowls are a sign on success. Yeah, the Cowboys haven’t had one in ages….The Eagles haven’t had one EVAAAAAAR. Infinity plus 1.

  146. iraselwin says: Nov 6, 2009 5:13 PM

    Yes, I am a Cowboys fan, but I am not even defending the fact that they haven’t been successful.
    My issue is the statement that the Eagles have been.
    The Eagles have won more playoff games, and have appeared in the playoffs more times than the Giants in the past 10 years. Are you going to call them more successful than the Giants ?
    Both teams have not been successful in the past 10 years, and that is a fact.

  147. VoxVeritas says: Nov 6, 2009 5:16 PM

    “Ill take a team that competes every year”
    Then you don’t want the Eagirls. They’ve only had two winning seasons out of the last four.
    “The cowboys are the yankees of the NFL in that you either love them or hate them. and much like the yankees, one of the reasons the cowboys are so easy to hate is the sense of entitlement that their fans have because of the past.”
    It’s not a sense of entitlement. It’s called “high expectations”. Yes, we expect the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl just because they’re the Dallas Cowboys. Anything less is abject failure, as far as I’m concerned. We now return you to your regularly scheduled bowl of frosted loserflakes.

  148. Staubach fan says: Nov 6, 2009 5:17 PM

    Jerry is what is wrong with Dallas. He bought the Cowboys before the salary cap, now in the salary cap era he can’t buy a win. Jimmy Johnson su*ked in Miami without all the expensive toys.
    Without Landry, or someone like him, at the helm, this has become just another average football team. Jerry just wants publicity, so will sign a name regardless of whether or not they can play (note before TO and Pacman it was Deion Sanders, i.e.) -any press is good press, because it will make you money-
    Though not perfect, this is the best I have seen of teamwork out of them in a while.
    Eagles are strong, but have their problems, too. Should be a good game. Hopefully.

  149. ctina says: Nov 6, 2009 5:29 PM

    Wow! People crack is wack, remember that. Eagles hate Dallas andvice versa. Which team in the NFL has perfect owners, fans and players??Oh i know, the team that Barney, Mr. Rogers and big bird are on……
    Jerry thanks for bringing jobs to Dallas and making our team world known. 2009 Cowboys thanks for being a classy team .. No one on our team has killed thousands of dogs and done prison time or.Been on trial for stabbing anyone or DUI. No one on the cowboys has been arrested for beating up there woman or shot themselves in the leg. Cowboys dont use gay slurrs and get suspended. So there are many reasons people hate us and they may have reason….s hit we are Americas team.

  150. Viper21 says: Nov 6, 2009 5:33 PM

    lmfao @ Eagles fans. I am constantly amazed at the lengths people will go, to defend coming up short. I dont see how an Eagles fan can defend NEVER winning a Super Bowl. They are the ONLY team in the NFC East to not win one. In fact the G-men, ‘Boys, & Skins have all won at least 3…! Eagles = 0, zip, nada, none.
    Ask any player, coach, or non-delusional fan what they want and it is a Super Bowl win..!!
    You dont hear too many people talk up the Bills, & they went to 4 in a row……. you dont get credit for losing. Personally, I think it’s a disgrace to the Eagles that they havnt won one. They have a good team, have for years….. just not good enough.

  151. BigDogWes says: Nov 6, 2009 5:44 PM

    Thanks for the history lesson Slave to bankers. But I only counted 4 championships in Philly’s long history and none since 1960. The goal post were at the zero yard line back then.
    Dallas has 5 in far less years of than it took Philly to get 4.
    Don’t kid yourself, winning the league championship is the only measure of ultimate success. 31 teams fail every year. All 32 teams start the year with the goal of winning it all.

  152. purple hay-seuss says: Nov 6, 2009 5:49 PM

    Vox,
    You appear to be directly (and I mean having the same species of parents – boogers, but both hand-picked) to a pair of lowlifes on the GB and, unfortunately, each and every Vikings post named Bob Nelson and JimmySmith. They both had sad childhoods and ultimately lobotomies.
    If anyone asks you to “just lay right here and count backwards from 100″, please just go right ahead while that nice music plays and they draw a couple of lines on your forehead. After you get to “98” it’ll all be over.
    Deb, I have a few relatives in SteelerLand, and we get along pretty well. Thanks for your humanity. It’s rare on this Blog.

  153. gwydion3 says: Nov 6, 2009 5:54 PM

    Hey Vox I was just wondering if you thought everyone was too stupid to see that fake profile on yahoo was created today. Wow when someone actually shows you up and you cannot actually come up with any lame excuses you have to stoop to creating a profile for somebody else to try to make yourself look better.

  154. mattitude says: Nov 6, 2009 5:54 PM

    Seriously, Vox, the Romo passing attempt record! We need an update. I don’t want to miss the fanfare when Romo captures the most meaningful record in Dallas football history, forever making his name synonymous with unparalleled greatness.

  155. troll_aikman8 says: Nov 6, 2009 5:56 PM

    Lol at Viking fan disregarding SuperBowl victories as the ultimate measure of success.
    It’s called Super for a reason.
    And the Brett Favre experiment is an effort to sell purple cheeseheads and not a complete sellout to win a SB trophy.
    It’s SB or nothing. As much as I hate all-things Giants, Patriots and Steelers, they are the class of the NFL because of SB wins.
    The Eagirls will only get franchise respect when they win hardware. Until then they’re just a team with wings on their helmets and good fat coach/bad father.
    And the team that took in Michael Vick.

  156. mred163 says: Nov 6, 2009 5:57 PM

    Let me offer one comment. What team has the better record since the Cowboy’s won their last Super Bowl?

  157. Viper21 says: Nov 6, 2009 6:05 PM

    lmfao @ Eagles fans. I am constantly amazed at the lengths people will go, to defend coming up short. I dont see how an Eagles fan can defend NEVER winning a Super Bowl. They are the ONLY team in the NFC East to not win one. In fact the G-men, ‘Boys, & Skins have all won at least 3…! Eagles = 0, zip, nada, none.
    Ask any player, coach, or non-delusional fan what they want and it is a Super Bowl win..!!
    You dont hear too many people talk up the Bills, & they went to 4 in a row……. you dont get credit for losing. Personally, I think it’s a disgrace to the Eagles that they havnt won one. They have a good team, have for years….. just not good enough.

  158. troll_aikman8 says: Nov 6, 2009 6:36 PM

    Later Harbaugh was quoted as saying:
    “….and we were so successful against the Cowboys that we called up ex-star Troy Aikman to beg him to join the Eagles”

  159. troll_aikman8 says: Nov 6, 2009 6:51 PM

    Jason Garrett makes more money than him as an OC.
    I guess I would be bitter too. But hey, Garrett has a Superbowl ring. Those things must matter.

  160. PayDoh says: Nov 6, 2009 7:11 PM

    chapnasty says:
    November 6, 2009 1:07 PM
    Hey Philly losers, enjoy your 10,000 losses, 3 World Series in 120 years and 0 Super Bowls… Sorry but it had to be said, and it will be said for another 25 years before your sh*tty city wins anything again
    —Have some cojones and walk into South Philly and say that.

  161. sn@ke says: Nov 6, 2009 7:44 PM

    I already know Vox wont be here on Monday (he went into witness protection after the 44-6 embarrassment last year).
    We’ll see how many of you Dallas cheeleaders are here Monday to reference Roger Staubach and Super Bowls from 30 years ago. It wont take away the sting of yet another loss to the Eagles, but you will pretend it does, and that….just never gets old.

  162. JohnTucson says: Nov 6, 2009 8:38 PM

    Fan 1: You suck.
    Fan 2: No, you suck!
    Fan 1: No, YOU suck!
    Fan 2: You’re stupid.
    Fan 1: No, you’re stupid.
    Fan 2: No, YOU’RE stupid.
    Fan 1: Nuff said.
    Fan 2: Case closed.

  163. hank moody says: Nov 6, 2009 8:44 PM

    To all the Philly fans…it’s all about winning Superbowls, something you know nothing about. Years down the road, the only thing fans remember is who won the Superbowl. LOL at the Viking fan joining ranks with the Buzzard fans. This just in…the Vikings were the Bills of the 70’s…lost 4 Superbowls and have never won a Superbowl.

  164. manofaiki says: Nov 6, 2009 9:07 PM

    I’d be curious about when Harbaugh said this; 2 years ago? 3?
    Our starting QB is a UDRFA. We ‘wasted’ a roster spot on him for almost 4 years before he ever saw the field. The guy he replaced was a former #1 round pick, Drew Bledsoe.
    Our current receiver corp – in the leagues #2 offense – are Miles Austin (UDRFA), Patrick Crayton (7th round draft pick), Sam Hurd (UDRFA), Kevin Ogletree (UDRFA) and Roy Williams (former #1 round draft pick). Williams is the only ‘star’ currently on the team that we traded for or signed in FA. And right now we’re not getting near what was expected.
    Of our 3 stellar running backs, 2 are 4th round round picks who are playing their way to startdom: Marion Barber III and Tashard Choice. Only Felix Jones was a college superstar and even then he was vastly overshadowed by teammate Darren McFadden. We drafted all 3.
    Our DLine rotation contains names like Bowen and Saavii, both UDRFA; our NT is Jay Ratliff, a 7th round draft pick. Jason Hatcher is a 4th rounder. Spears was taken in round 1.
    Our current stable of linebackers contains only one guy we didn’t draft – Keith Brooking, who was cast off from Atlanta when they felt he was done and not worth what they were paying him.
    Our secondary has only two FA signees in it we didn’t draft – Ken Hamlin and Gerald Sensabaugh and neither one was considered a ‘star’ on their former teams. Everybody else – Newman and Jenkins (1st round picks) , Scandrick (5th round), Watkins (6th round) Ball, are all home grown.
    The Eagles think they’re the only one that find talent in and outside the draft and then coach it up to NFL-caliber level in the NFC East?
    If Harbaugh had said this 3-4 years ago he would have a case. We tried to cobble together a team under Bledsoe and Keyshawn and brought in TO and high priced FA’s like Marco Rivera and Anthony Henry and Jason Ferguson. Then we brought in Tank Johnson and Pac-Man while all the TO drama was going on, so it could have given Harbaugh this impression. But it was a false one.
    This team is building through the draft the past 3 years and it’s showing. Our oldest unit is the OLine, for good reason. Kosier is the only guy we signed on it in FA. If I remember right Columbo got cut by Chicago because they thought he was done after an injury.
    You want to see a team right now that tried to buy it’s way in FA and signing ‘superstar’ players to the playoffs, you need to see what Washington did the past 8 years.

  165. Ocelot138 says: Nov 6, 2009 10:20 PM

    Wow, Vox. I must really get under your skin. Creating a fake account of me? That’s pretty desperate. I don’t think I need to even bash you anymore, because – frankly? That’s the saddest thing I’ve ever seen.

  166. kravon says: Nov 6, 2009 10:24 PM

    4696 days since the Cowboys won a playoff game. You gotta love that incredible level of underachievement.
    Pound your chests with pride Cowboys fans!

  167. gwydion3 says: Nov 6, 2009 11:05 PM

    Yeah Ocelot I already called him out on that. What a dumbass I guess he missed the sentence that says how long you have been a member. Oh and Vox next time you create a fake profile don’t put incredibly stupid stuff on there if you want us to believe it. Because believe it or not you arn’t very smart.

  168. Laxer37 says: Nov 6, 2009 11:25 PM

    You Cowboys and your four Superbowl trophies are so precious.
    Love,
    Steeler fans

  169. SEAYDOG says: Nov 7, 2009 12:32 AM

    HARBAUGH, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, COMPLETE DUMB A$$. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY WON AT LEAST 5 SUPERBOWLS OR HELL, JUST ONE, YOU COULD ACTUALLY SAY SOME BS REMARK LIKE THIS, BUT YOU HAVENT DONE SH!T. HARBAUGH INHERITED BB’S TEAM. I CANT WAIT UNTIL I SEE THE STEELERS, BENGALS RUB YOUR NOSE IN THE DOG SH!T FROM CLEVELAND. IM NOT A FAN FROM ANY OF THESE TEAMS BUT I WILL BE ONE FOR NOW ON WHEN THEY PLAY THE PUS__S FROM BALTIMORE!!!!!!

  170. kaakwha says: Nov 7, 2009 1:07 AM

    LMFAO!
    Vox- what a sad sack you are.
    Anything you had even remotely resembling credibility you tossed in the can with that ridiculous ploy of setting up a fake account on someone.
    wow, what an ass.

  171. Ocelot138 says: Nov 7, 2009 1:19 AM

    @SlavetoBankers
    One of the funniest things I’ve read in the comments section of PFT.
    @gwyndion3
    I know, it’s sad isn’t it? It’s almost enough to make me feel totally sorry for the guy. Like when a nerd tries to punch you and ends up tripping, falling and crying after he scrapes his chin. You can’t really fight him back, it’s just not fair.

  172. delius1967 says: Nov 7, 2009 1:56 AM

    You can pick and chose statistics to prove anything you want. For instance, look at the last four seasons:
    Cowboys record: 40-24
    Eagles record: 33-30-1
    Of course, then look at the last eight seasons:
    Cowboys record: 66-62
    Eagles record: 81-46-1
    No, wait, the last 18 seasons:
    Cowboys: 165-123 (and 3 SB victories)
    Eagles: 162-124-2
    You can choose whatever time period makes your team look the best and then argue that that one is the most significant. Or you can assert that somehow playoff victories are an important marker, but Super Bowl victories are not.
    It’s a pointless argument. That won’t stop the morons on both sides from conducting it, of course.
    Harbaugh’s comment isn’t wrong, it’s just directed at the wrong team. The Redskins are a much better example of a team trying to “buy” a championship.

  173. Amanda B Reckonwith says: Nov 7, 2009 5:32 AM

    Lets see, how many days has it been since the Eagles won a Super Bowl?
    Oh yeah, thats right, you can’t count the days sinced never.

  174. Rickah99 says: Nov 7, 2009 7:41 AM

    Here’s a simple timeline of this blog:
    Harbaugh basically said Philly has had more success over the last 10 years than Dallas.
    Next came Dallas Cowboy fan, saying they won 5 superbowls which is true, but off point, as we are talking about the last 10 years….and starting bashing Philly fans in the process.
    Next Philly fans took offense(and kind of rolled their collective eyes) as this is what Dallas Cowboy fan ALWAYS does when talking about the last 10 years. To combat this, Philly fans will bring up the 44-6 drubbing last year of what was basically a playoff game for both teams(winner{Eagles} go on, loser{Cowboys} go home).
    At this point the blog gets so blurred as both sides compare, in no particular order:
    – draft picks
    – undrafted picks
    – Head coaches
    – Assistant coaches
    – Owners
    – Owner’s sons(have no idea how this is relevant)
    – Free Agents
    – User profile pages(Shame on you Vox, way lame)
    – Penis size(I just threw that in there as I’m a confident guy)
    – State of the Economy(again, that’s just me)
    – Favorite color(I’m on a roll here)
    – Florio’s favorite color(Some may want to know!)
    – Florio’s penis size(OK, I’m clearly out of line)
    Bottom line: Philly has had more success over the last 10 years as their overall record is better in both the regular and post seasons. Cowboys have 5 titles to the Eagles 4. Cowboys have the head-to-head record.
    BUT…. 44-6 still obviously stings Dallas Cowboy fans TO THIS DAY!!!!
    And that, folks, is priceless!!!
    Can’t wait to see what happens tomorrow!!

  175. shaslers says: Nov 7, 2009 8:29 AM

    OMG, I had to wade through dozens moronic posts from Cowboys fans arguing that their’s is the better franchise because a SuperBowl win followed by 13 years of mediocrity > 5 NFC Championship appearances by the Eagles in the meantime?
    Ha! That is the lamest of lame arguments. If anything, it supports Harbaugh’s contention that Jerry’s system failed once the Cap era took hold.
    I have no dog in the fight, but clearly the Eagles have been the better franchise in the current era.
    And clearly Harbaugh has a good point that building around a team concept is the only way to achieve success in this parity-era.
    That said, I’m not sure his accusation about the Cowboys being a “star” system is entirely accurate. As someone pointed out, it’s more of an indictment of the Redskins.
    The difference between the Eagles and Cowboys is that Reid has a very strong sense of what kind of team he wants to build. You know what he wants to do with the West Coast offense and not a big running game. You know on defense how they are going to play one-gap upfront and blitz the hell out of you. There is a very clear map, and the team can scout and draft players that fit that style of play.
    In Dallas, you don’t get the same sense of what they are trying to do, or how the pieces are supposed to fit together. You get the sense that they focus on investing in the best talent they can at certain glamor positions (QB, WR, DE, etc). But not as much of a sense that there is a team plan.
    That’s how I interpret Harbaugh’s comments re: star system. Not necessarily the same as Snyder’s fantasy roster approach to free agency, but still, in Dallas there is more of a focus on individual personalities than in Philly, where it’s about team personality.

  176. qsteel says: Nov 7, 2009 2:11 PM

    “You haven’t. The Cowboys have a winning record against the Eagirls. 53-43.”- Vox
    yeah but this is about andy vs the cowgirls hes got a 14-6 record so i would say he has dominated the girls over the last decade

  177. manofaiki says: Nov 7, 2009 7:04 PM

    John Harbaugh can come talk to me about the star system in place in Dallas when he explains this:
    1. Tony Romo – undrafted. Signed as a Rookie Free Agent. Developed by the coaching staff over 3 seasons before getting his shot.
    2. Miles Austin – undrafted. Signed as a Rookie Free Agent. Developed by the coaching staff for over 3 seasons before becoming a starter this year.
    3. Patrick Crayton – 7th round draft pick.
    4. Sam Hurd – undrafted. Signed as a Rookie Free Agent. Developed by the coaching staff for the past 3 seasons.
    5. Kevin Ogletree – undrafted. Signed as a Rookie Free Agent. Being developed by the coachin staff.
    6. Roy Williams – former 1st round draft pick of the Detroit Lions. Acquired by trade last season. Has done jack in Dallas.
    7. Marion Barber III – 4th round draft pick.
    8. Tashard Choice – 4th round draft pick
    9. Felix Jones – 1st round draft pick.
    10. Jason Witten – 3rd round draft pick.
    11. Martellus Bennett – 2nd round draft pick.
    I’ll skip the offensive line.
    Where does this Cowboys offense currently rank after 7 games this season?
    Try second, right behind the Saints.
    How many of the guys on this league 2nd best offense listed above weren’t drafted and developed by the Cowboy’s own coaching staff?
    I see ONLY ONE. Roy Williams.
    This team is drafting and developing it’s own talent and doing quite well with it, esp. on the offensive skill position side of the ball.
    Harbaugh and many posters here are WAY off base here if he thinks this describes the 2009 Cowboys.

  178. 70's Cowboys says: Nov 8, 2009 10:40 AM

    Manofaiki essentially made this whole discussion obsolete.

  179. 5xSBC says: Nov 8, 2009 10:59 AM

    Funny you queergles fans love all the success you’ve had. No SB wins? 1 SB appearance? Is that really success? I bet you guys call the Bills teams of the 90’s losers dont you? Well, guess what? You queergles fans cant even begin to match the success of those “loser” Bills teams.
    Take your lard ass coach, your crybaby never was Qb, and your dog killing backup qb back to the filthy slums you call home and enjoy all the “success” you love!

  180. 5xSBC says: Nov 8, 2009 11:05 AM

    And as for Bills fans having the voracious appetite of getting screwed by Ralph Wilson but having the balls to comment on Dallas’ situation, dont make me laugh. Youre gonna be in Canada watching the Blue Bills, or AlouBills, or ArgoBills trying to imagine what its like to be a fan of a real NFL team. You took excrement that Jerry heave-hoe’d out of Dallas and thought you had a chance to compete! How’s that T.O thing going? We need an update because down here we only get updates from REAL Nfl teams!

  181. Bobby McShanklebee says: Nov 8, 2009 11:15 AM

    Ok just want to make two quick points:
    1. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the Cowboys win all those Super Bowls before the new salary cap system was in place. So today’s system is completely different and the consistently successful teams in this new era are usually the ones with good FO
    2. Steelers fans never cease to amaze me. You have six more Super Bowls than the Eagles, they play once every four years and yet you still have some kind of weird fixation with the Eagles. I live in an area that is 50/50 Eagle and Steeler fans and the Steeler fans are the most obnoxious people I ever met. Like a thousand Vox running around. So could a Steeler fan please explain why you have this resentment of Philly because I hate Dallas, NY Giants and Washington because they are in our division. I could care less about Pittsburgh

  182. WhySoSerious says: Nov 8, 2009 1:41 PM

    Rosenthaal, if youre gonna post this article, you gotta post this to, dont you think.
    Harbaugh apologizes
    11:35 AM Sun, Nov 08, 2009 | Permalink | Buzz up!Yahoo! Buzz
    Rick Gosselin/Columnist E-mail News tips
    Baltimore Ravens coach John Harbaugh telephoned Jerry Jones Saturday to apologize for comments he made about the Cowboys in the book, “Game Changers: The 50 Greatest Plays of the Philadelphia Eagles.”
    His comments also appeared in a story in The Dallas Morning News Saturday. Harbaugh, a former Eagles assistant, told Jones his comments did not truly reflect the admiration and respect he has for the Cowboys franchise.

  183. Deb says: Nov 8, 2009 3:05 PM

    @Manofaiki …
    You said earlier you’d be curious to know when Harbaugh made these remarks–if it was two or three years ago because his comments would have been more accurate then. Apparently they were excerpted from a book rather than taken from a recent interview. It takes approximately two years for a printed book to go through the publishing process, so he probably did make the remarks two or three years ago.
    My comments comparing the Cowboys methods to the Redskins were also based more on the that time period than the current roster. After reading your last post, I stand corrected. But I still have a problem with the heavy hand Jones’ takes in football operations. I think the team would do better if he hired a great football mind as GM and let the GM run the team without his interference.

  184. iraselwin says: Nov 8, 2009 11:48 PM

    WHO WON THE LAST GAME NOW EAGIRLS?????

  185. BigDogWes says: Nov 9, 2009 12:00 AM

    Well snake and banker the game is over and the Cowboys prevailed. 44-6 is now meaniless. try 20-16 and NFC East leaders!!!

  186. philgrek says: Nov 9, 2009 12:13 AM

    What cracks me up about his statement…is hes summing up an organization based on the 5 years that we were absolutely terrible. Of course the Eagles spanked us from 99-’05 we were one of the worst teams in the league. 3 straight years of 5-11. Feel proud about beating a team led by Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, or Drew Henson.

  187. Ocelot138 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:37 PM

    # BigDogWes says: November 9, 2009 12:00 AM
    Well snake and banker the game is over and the Cowboys prevailed. 44-6 is now meaniless. try 20-16 and NFC East leaders!!!
    ——————–
    44-6 is not meaningless. No more meaningless than Romo’s fumbled snap against the Seahawks, or his game-ending interception in the playoffs against the Giants. 20-16 is a moral victory, sure. It’s not an elimination game victory. It’s not a victory in December/January.
    But keep telling yourself you’ve over it. It just tells us all that you really aren’t.

  188. Ocelot138 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:39 PM

    # 5xSBC says: November 8, 2009 10:59 AM
    Funny you queergles fans love all the success you’ve had. No SB wins? 1 SB appearance? Is that really success? I bet you guys call the Bills teams of the 90’s losers dont you? Well, guess what? You queergles fans cant even begin to match the success of those “loser” Bills teams.
    Take your lard ass coach, your crybaby never was Qb, and your dog killing backup qb back to the filthy slums you call home and enjoy all the “success” you love!
    —————-
    I’m surprised you climbed out of bed with your sister to post this, you inbred piece of garbage. Stay classy, hicksville!

  189. paranoidandroid says: Nov 10, 2009 4:00 PM

    i could seriously care less what harbaugh thinks about the cowboys but it was a funny read.
    i guess when philly brought in TO it was all about the team? what about Vick, how is that workin out? i remember reading the eagles fans going nuts here about vick will do this and vick will do that, playoffs here we come………where are you now? he’s passed for all of….are you ready for this…..6 yards! wow, what a gamebreaker.
    if there was ever anything classy about the eagles i must have missed it. just read any of the comments here from their fans
    your beef is that jerry jones won’t hesitate to bring in a big name talent and thats a bad thing? are you kiddin me?

  190. SmackMyVickUp says: Nov 10, 2009 11:00 PM

    Funny how people say winning SB’s don’t matter, but Cowgirls were team of the 90’s, Pats owned 2000’s.
    Not hard to figure why….
    10 years from now no one will care who made the playoffs, people remember SB winners.

  191. ocelots138 says: Nov 11, 2009 3:59 PM

    10 years from now the Cowboys will still be looking for a playoff win.

  192. mnmaverick says: Nov 12, 2009 1:08 AM

    I think he’s ripping the wrong subject.
    Jerry Jones is what’s wrong in Dallas.
    He’s ripping the whole organization.
    But Jerry Jones is to the Cowboys what Al Davis is to the Raiders. A control freak who doesn’t allow the coaches to do their jobs.

  193. Capper1 says: Nov 12, 2009 11:13 AM

    All you read is 44-6. Have we forgot the game that just happened. YOU LOST. Jealousy will get you guys no-where. Either jump on to the best team in football or keep licking your sorry a–. In the end it will be the Cowboys finishing first in the division and then what….. Freaks

  194. Vox's Mommy says: Nov 12, 2009 3:12 PM

    Bobby Mcshanklebee
    As a Steeler fan I have no resenment towards the Eagles. I don’t really care for them, but I can’t call that resentment. One of my best friends is from Philly, and I always cheer for the Eagles when they play a divisional game (shows you what I think of the teams in the rest of that division). I don’t know many Steeler fans that speak poorly of the Eagles either. I would think that the fact you live in an area of 50/50 has much more to do with it than anything else. Sort of like an unconcious competitive type thing. In general I don’t care much for the Eagles fans though, if anything I feel a bit of resentment from them more than the other way around. We’re both passionate fan bases, when you throw 50/50 in the mix, people are going to be idiots.

  195. chunky soupy sales says: Nov 13, 2009 11:21 PM

    “Bobby Mcshanklebee…..
    So could a Steeler fan please explain why you have this resentment of Philly because I hate Dallas, NY Giants and Washington because they are in our division. I could care less about Pittsburgh”
    I can understand you only hating teams in your division and not understanding otherwise.
    Not making many and not winning any Super Bowls can do that to you I guess. Dallas and Pittsburgh hate one another because they have met in a few Superbowls. But I wouldn’t expect an Eagles fan to understand stuff that deals with the Super Bowl.

  196. Grulks says: Nov 16, 2009 5:44 PM

    ocelots138 says:
    “10 years from now the Cowboys will still be looking for a playoff win.”
    “But keep telling yourself you’ve over it. It just tells us all that you really aren’t.”
    10 years from now, the Eagles will still be looking for their first SB trophy.
    Seriously how do you type so well with those big fat green and white dicks your mouth AND in your ass? Not that I really care, I’m kind of freaked out by it, but I was thinking someone should sign you up for the circus

  197. LionsFan29 says: Nov 17, 2009 1:39 PM

    As a Lions fan I am glad Dallas has Jerry Jones. Who else would have given up all those draft picks for Roy “I celebrate a firstdown when we are losing by 21″ Willams.

  198. Todd Wallace says: Nov 17, 2009 2:37 PM

    Peronally I’ve already had my Super Bowl win for the season: the Giants beating the Pokes on their opening day of Jerry World. Jones had anything and everything going for that first game except the W.

  199. Todd Wallace says: Nov 17, 2009 2:40 PM

    He would never say it out loud but Jones is who really drove Parcells out of Dallas. Both are control freaks, but Parcells knew how to run a team. Just look at the Dolphins horrid record the season before parcells took over there as GM. Still got a ways to go, but Miami is certainly far more respected around the league again.

  200. Alexman says: Nov 18, 2009 12:37 PM

    Yeah easy pal, eagles making the playoffs every year but not winning EVER…..that’s like being the smartest kid with down syndrome….. check the ring count and re-write your article

  201. tombrookshire says: Nov 20, 2009 7:01 AM

    Harbaugh makes great points. Andy’s system is superior. That is why we have all those Lombardi’s and the Cowboys are struggling to win just ONE. Great observation, coach!

  202. eagledan says: Nov 21, 2009 11:43 AM

    NFC East record past ten years!
    Philadelphia Eagles 97-62-1 .606 pct
    New York Giants 88-72 .550 pct
    Dallas Cowboys 79-81 .493 pct Washington Redskins 76-84 .475 pct

  203. tatum32 says: Nov 25, 2009 8:48 AM

    “Philadelphia Eagles 97-62-1 .606 pct
    New York Giants 88-72 .550 pct
    Dallas Cowboys 79-81 .493 pct Washington Redskins 76-84 .475 pct”
    Dallas – 5 rings
    Giants – 3 rings
    Redskins – 2 rings
    Eagles – ZERO RINGS
    No wonder Santa got booed.

  204. troll_aikman8 says: Nov 25, 2009 1:13 PM

    Deep down every Eagles fan would love to have Romo instead of McNabb. That’s gotta sting.

  205. Mcsoup says: Nov 27, 2009 5:26 PM

    @andres
    If you’re going to attempt to bust Eagles fans chops, at least know they have never won a Super Bowl, only an NFL championship, dopey. At least you got the year correct.
    @Troll_Aikman8: we’d rather have almost 40% of the leagues starting QBs over Mcnabb. However Romo is not on that list. Sorry
    The facts are these, for the past ten years the Cowboys have been a joke. The Eagles have been an often good, sometimes great team during the same period. And to that point Harbaugh is correct. However I find it quite curious he limits his history to the ten years he was personally invested. Being an Eagles fan who hates the entire NFC east with a passion, I can’t say I wouldn’t trade 10 years of finishing in the top 4 teams in the NFL for 3 rings in the 90’s followed by mediocrity. Hell, I would do it for 1 ring.
    However, that wasn’t the point of the article, now was it?

  206. Dunn says: Nov 29, 2009 12:46 AM

    LOL. That’s what I dislike about Philly fans. They measure success by making the playoffs etc. There is only 1 team that can talk like that each year. That is the winner of the superbowl. All others can measure their success within their locker but you cannot bring that nonsense public. Especially, when you are talking down to an organization that has 500% more superbowls than you. This is a ridiculous quote. It’s like arguing who came in 2nd place.

  207. roscoe says: Nov 29, 2009 7:40 PM

    Harbaugh wishes he was the Cowboys jock strap collector. He hasn’t won anything in Baltimore, so he’s living off all the past Lombardi’s from his Philly days….oh wait…..

  208. paranoidandroid says: Nov 30, 2009 3:32 PM

    LionsFan29 says:
    November 17, 2009 1:39 PM
    As a Lions fan I am glad Dallas has Jerry Jones. Who else would have given up all those draft picks for Roy “I celebrate a firstdown when we are losing by 21″ Willams
    ——
    and yet the lions will most likely have another poor draft and it will all be forgotten.

  209. breakemoff says: Dec 1, 2009 5:00 AM

    it’s their fans that make the cowboys one of, if not the, most hated teams in sports .. the obnoxious celebrations for routine plays in losing games, the obsessive references to super bowls with absolutely no relevance, the tattered emmitt smith jerseys, etc…
    the cowboys are a marginal team at best, but talk to one of their fans and you’d swear they’ve won the super bowl every single year since their inception. born and raised a boston red sox fan, i hate the cowboys even more than the yankees!!!! i hate their false swagger, i hate that stupid look on miles austin’s face, i hate their ugly uniforms and that ridiculous stadium that’ll serve as nothing more than an obnoxiously big headstone to bury that pompous asshole jerry jones under…. and it’s because of their ignorantly overconfident fans who only come around after a win or what they think is a promising season. and then when the ‘girls blow it again, it’s back into hiding, calling for romo’s head, and putting the ware jersey back on the rack… do any cowboys fans own a quincy carter jersey or a joey galloway jersey?!?!??!
    eat a shit sandwich cowboys fans, it’s you that’s wrong with not only your team, but the NFL as a whole… take your five rings from an eternity ago and blow them out your ass!!!

  210. hendy456 says: Dec 1, 2009 2:19 PM

    What’s really sad is how all the Cowboys fans keep talking about things that happened 20-30 years ago. The point of this article was how Harbuagh’s comments were based on what the Cowboys and Eagles have done in the last decade. I guess the average Cowboy fan is too dumb to figure out that things that happened 20 years ago don’t fall into that whole “last decade” category. Another side note for all you Cowboys fans out there, does Tony Homo have a single playoff win in his career? I think not. I’m a Giants fan and honestly hate both of these teams but if you are talking about success in the last decade the Eagles have a huge advantage over the Cowboys.

  211. willjohn1 says: Dec 2, 2009 1:22 PM

    I’m a die hard Cowboy fan and Harbaugh maybe looking for a job. And since he thinks he can pick a team better then Jerry then he may just tell him face to face that he’s the man for the job. The only problem I have is he has a team that should moving up the ranks and where is his team. They may make the playoffs but I don’t see it happening. So until he builds a team and stops riding on the coat tails of Andy Reid and do something on his own who cares what he has to say. To the Giant fan your QB looks as lost as Romo. I’m not a Romo fan in fact if the Cowboys management had any backbone then they would draft a QB in the first round and put Romo on notice either win or go to the Gaints.

  212. troll_aikman8 says: Dec 2, 2009 6:18 PM

    Harbaugh said the Cowboys are everything wrong with the NFL….He didn’t say Oakland, he didn’t say Cincinnati, Buffalo or countless other teams that have sucked for a long time and don’t even make an effort to bring in a player or two to turn it around.
    Harbaugh messed up and that’s why he apologized. He’s not very bright.

  213. paranoidandroid says: Dec 3, 2009 5:53 PM

    breakemoff says:
    December 1, 2009 5:00 AM
    it’s their fans that make the cowboys one of, if not the, most hated teams in sports .. the obnoxious celebrations for routine plays in losing games, the obsessive references to super bowls with absolutely no relevance, the tattered emmitt smith jerseys, etc…
    the cowboys are a marginal team at best, but talk to one of their fans and you’d swear they’ve won the super bowl every single year since their inception. born and raised a boston red sox fan, i hate the cowboys even more than the yankees!!!! i hate their false swagger, i hate that stupid look on miles austin’s face, i hate their ugly uniforms and that ridiculous stadium that’ll serve as nothing more than an obnoxiously big headstone to bury that pompous asshole jerry jones under…. and it’s because of their ignorantly overconfident fans who only come around after a win or what they think is a promising season. and then when the ‘girls blow it again, it’s back into hiding, calling for romo’s head, and putting the ware jersey back on the rack… do any cowboys fans own a quincy carter jersey or a joey galloway jersey?!?!??!
    eat a shit sandwich cowboys fans, it’s you that’s wrong with not only your team, but the NFL as a whole… take your five rings from an eternity ago and blow them out your ass!!!
    ——
    lets address this step by step. whats the first thing a yankee fan says when you start talkin smack to them? they talk about their 30 championships. how do you retort, being a red sox fan and all? well before this past baseball season you might have said something about the red sox winning last and the yankees being on a dry spell. Or maybe when you talk to a Giants fan they’ll reference breaking up your perfect patriot season in the super bowl to which you’ll talk about those 3 you won a few years back. you see where this is going? everyone does it, its not just cowboy fans.
    you hate the cowboy’s fans pumping up their own team? you do realize that every team’s fans do this all the time. so you hate all fans who aren’t fans of your team then? dumbass
    and i laughed out loud, even called a co-worker over to read that line about having a quincy carter jersey. you can’t be freakin serious? every team makes bad moves and that was certainly a bad move but for you to expect that a “true fan” would have a carter jersey is insane. tell me, do you have any bill buckner jerseys lying around?

  214. teamster says: Dec 5, 2009 4:27 AM

    harbaugh is an idiot! A bone head making a bonehead statement. It’s funny how the rest of the NFL defines success. Most of the NFL fans along with thier teams will be content with just playoff wins. At the end of the season Detroit will be right where 30 other teams will be and that’s looking up at the superbowl winners hoisting that Lambardi trophy. And for most fans and their teams they will be content because they won a playoff game.

  215. chunky soupy sales says: Dec 6, 2009 9:05 AM

    I guess the way to excellence in the NFL is having thugs who stab people and beat women?
    #### a Harbaugh.

  216. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 6, 2009 11:04 AM

    chunky soupy sales says:
    I guess the way to excellence in the NFL is having thugs who stab people and beat women?
    ____________________________________
    Having thugs, cokeheads, and guys who stab people certainly worked for the Cowboys in the past.. You remember, way back when they were good? Nevermind. You probably weren’t born yet.

  217. breakemoff says: Dec 8, 2009 5:14 PM

    lets address this step by step. whats the first thing a yankee fan says when you start talkin smack to them? they talk about their 30 championships. how do you retort, being a red sox fan and all? well before this past baseball season you might have said something about the red sox winning last and the yankees being on a dry spell. Or maybe when you talk to a Giants fan they’ll reference breaking up your perfect patriot season in the super bowl to which you’ll talk about those 3 you won a few years back. you see where this is going? everyone does it, its not just cowboy fans.
    you hate the cowboy’s fans pumping up their own team? you do realize that every team’s fans do this all the time. so you hate all fans who aren’t fans of your team then? dumbass
    and i laughed out loud, even called a co-worker over to read that line about having a quincy carter jersey. you can’t be freakin serious? every team makes bad moves and that was certainly a bad move but for you to expect that a “true fan” would have a carter jersey is insane. tell me, do you have any bill buckner jerseys lying around?
    ___________________________________
    first of all lemme say, no i don’t hate fans of every other team, just cowboys fans android idiot… and i don’t have shit to say to a yankees fan because they just won the world series you stupid asshole! my team choked and watched the series from boston…. u honestly think i’d attempt to defend my team by bringing up a ring from three years ago!?!?!??! but, in ’04 when they blew it in the ALCS and we went on to make history, u bet your sorry ass i let every yankee fan i met have it!!! lol, u didn’t even get my point ignoramous!
    secondly, i’m not even a patriots fan! BRONCOS BABY!!! and i don’t care about anything in terms of your sorry cowboys other than the fact that we beat them THIS YEAR! lol, u typify cowboys fans and sound just as stupid as any of them! what, u mean to tell me no ‘girls fans owned quincy carter jersey’s during that period of team where u all thought he was the “future of the franchise”?!?!?!
    i saw carter jerseys on all sorts of cowboy losers then, just like i see romo jerseys now… see where i”m going with this?????
    LMAO@U and your boys who by the way played a fantastic game agianst new york on sunday and did it with class, hats off to you flozell adams! hahaha what a joke! of course i guess i’d be salty too after getting owned time and time again by someone i had the nerve to call a “nobody”!
    don’t even go there with me buddy!

  218. cowboyssuck says: Dec 23, 2009 10:05 PM

    HE IS COMPLETELY RIGHT. YOU COWSH*T FANS BRAG ABOUT YOUR 5 SUPER BOWL WINS? NONE OF YOU HAVE BEEN ALIVE FOR ANY OF THEM AND YOUR CRAPPY TEAM HASNT WON A PLAYOFF GAME IN 13 FREAKING YEARS!!!! DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR “GREAT” TEAM. TONY HOMO IS THE WORST AND MOST OVERRATED PLAYER IN THE NFL. HAVE YOU SEEN HOW HE DRESSES? HAVE YOU SEEN WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE? HE LOOKS LIKE A COMPLETE FAG AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE AND WHEN HES SACKED HE LAYS ON THE GROUND IN THE FETAL POSITION FOR 10 SECONDS HES A WIMP. EAGLES HAVE MADE PLAYOFFS 7 OF THE LAST 10 YEARS SO YES IN THE LAST DECADE THE EAGLES H A V E DONE A CRAP LOAD BETTER THEN THE WIMPY COWSH*TS

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