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Week Nine Morning Aftermath: Chargers 21, Giants 20

The Giants rebounded from a devastating playoff home loss and the departure of receiver Plaxico Burress with five straight wins to begin the 2009 season.

In comparison to the manner in which the AFC’s top seed from 2008 started the season (with six straight losses), the Giants’ performance in the early going was most impressive.

But then they got a taste of the Saints.  And the Giants have yet to recover from the 48-27 pasting that the Super Bowl XLII champions absorbed.

Whether they’re shell shocked from the knowledge that the best team in the NFC East isn’t automatically the best team in the NFC or whether the Giants simply aren’t as good as they think they are and can’t come to grips with that fact, the reality is that 5-4 places them in the scrum for a wild-card berth in the playoffs at best.

Then again, a wild-card berth was enough two years ago to spark a run to the Super Bowl via three straight road wins.

And perhaps that’s why the Giants are currently struggling to find their way.  Maybe once they accepted that the road to the Super Bowl won’t be winding through the Meadowlands, the Giants recognized that they simply need a second-chance ticket to the party and a hot streak in one of the coldest months of the year.

Still, getting a ticket to the party is no longer no-brainer, given a fourth straight loss in a game that the Giants would have had in the bag if they’d simply been able to punch it in from four yards out after a late interception by Terrell Thomas of Philip Rivers set the table for what could have been an insurmountable 10-point lead. 

But a holding penalty on the first play from Tom Coughlin’s son-in-law pushed the ball back to the 14, wiping out a Brandon Jacobs run that would have put the ball on the one.

I let the team down,” guard Chris Snee said after the game, per the New York Daily News. “It doesn’t matter
if it was [a good call], it was called and I let the team down.  I will
have to deal with that.

“It should have been over.”

On first down again, Eli Manning couldn’t connect with receiver Hakeem Nicks on a short pass.  Then, on second down, Jacobs blasted up the middle for five yards, putting the ball at the nine. 

Before third and goal from the San Diego nine, CBS analyst (and former Giants quarterback) Phil Simms said he had “no doubt that Giants will throw the football . . . you try to win the game.”

And so, of course, the Giants didn’t throw the football.  From shotgun formation, Manning handed off to Jacobs.  Somewhat surprisingly, the Chargers didn’t use their final timeout to keep the clock in the range of 2:50.  So, with only 2:07 left on the clock, the field goal pushed the lead to six. 

“Well, they played the percentages,” Simms said.  “[Coach] Tom Coughlin is saying you cannot drive the football down the field against our pass rush and with only two minutes and score a touchdown.”  

A line-drive squib kick took a ground-rule double hop over the head of Darren Sproles and out of the end zone, forcing the Chargers to go 80 yards in 125 seconds.

They did.  With more than 20 to spare.

Eight plays and 80 yards later, the Chargers pulled it off with an 18-yard strike from Rivers to receiver Vincent Jackson.

And they did it without ever using that last time out.

Cornerback Corey Webster, who gave up the game-losing score and who was involved in the Chargers’ other two touchdowns, faced the media for 10 minutes after the game, according to the Daily News.  “I understand that the other receiver is good and the quarterback
is good, too,” Webster said.  “I don’t want [Jackson] to catch the ball and my job is to
stop him.  But they are going to make some plays and you got to keep on
fighting till the end.”

The look on Eli’s face after the Jackson scored sent a much stronger message, in much fewer words.

But while Gary Myers of the Daily News has declared that the Giants’ season is on “life support,” defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka sees the glass as one-tenth full.

“It’s not the end of the world.  We’re not going to panic,” Kiwanuka said.  “We are professional athletes.  We are here to do a job.  We’re
just going to get it done.  The bottom line is we got seven more games
left and seven chances to turn it around.  It’s not over.”

And he’s right.  With a bye coming up, the Giants then have three of their next four games (visits from the Falcons, Cowboys, and Eagles) at home.  After that, the Giants play the Redskins and Panthers before finishing the season at Minnesota, in what could be a meaningless game for the Vikings.

For the Chargers, it’s definitely not over, three weeks after it supposedly was.  That 2-3 start has now become a 5-3 record and, if the Broncos lose at home tonight against the Steelers, only a one-game gap in the AFC West.  The Chargers’ next two contests — at home against the Eagles and at Denver — could go a long way toward determining whether San Diego can once again follow a sssslow start in September with January football.

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38 Responses to “Week Nine Morning Aftermath: Chargers 21, Giants 20”
  1. chapnasty says: Nov 9, 2009 7:48 AM

    The Giants are in trouble.

  2. scotty231 says: Nov 9, 2009 7:58 AM

    This game was lost because the giants secondary could not make a stop when it counted! period end of story! of course espn and ” the real media ” will tell you it was all about rivers. Any qb could have won that game the giants corners cant cover a statue. They never even forced the chargers into a 3rd down play in the final drive. Pathetic!!!!

  3. jkorn1818 says: Nov 9, 2009 7:59 AM

    Can they fire Gilbride and Sheridan? The giants staff blew this game yesterday. on their first long drive there was no reason not to go for it on 4th and inches, they werent stopping the run, instead tynes over runs the ball and the result is a missed kick. after the hold call to ice the game, the fact they didnt throw is beyond belief. For one Eli was passing on them all day long and their other trips in the red zone he was completing passes. Gilbride has been way too conservative and in other weeks has looked clueless..eg: bombs on first down, incomplete, then run on 2nd, then faced with 3rd and long. In the other article regarding this game, a few ignorant fans blamed eli and mentioned how rivers outplayed him etc etc..Truth is eli had the better game, their defense as usual didnt come up w a stop and the play calling was ATROCIOUS. can they please bench pierce already too? he couldnt even cover their 3rd string TE. hes so quick to run his mouth but was MIA in the locker room after the game. Here comes all the “sheli sucks” comments, clearly if youre saying that, you didnt watch yesterdays game.

  4. Krow says: Nov 9, 2009 8:04 AM

    Season’s over. Injuries and some really strange coaching decisions have dropped the team back into mediocrity. Sometimes it changes this fast. The Giants tried to stand pat… put off some tough choices… and are now paying the price.
    They lack innovation, enthusiasm, and athleticism. There’s no sense of identity… there’s no confidence… there’s no swagger. It’s over.

  5. I_Hate_Yams says: Nov 9, 2009 8:58 AM

    Giants fans, now you see why the Chargers fired Gilbride as a Head Coach back in 1998. He sucks!

  6. Jerry's World says: Nov 9, 2009 9:00 AM

    This is not surprising, the Giants were said to be the best team in the league after there 5-0 start and what people were forgetting is that they hadn’t even beat a good team yet (the cowboys don’t count because analyst’s at the time thought the cowboys were a bad team). Finally they play some decent teams and they lose 4 in a row so this is not surprising and is great for my Cowboys who now sit atop the NFC East! G-men……Way overrated.

  7. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Nov 9, 2009 9:17 AM

    4 weeks ago the Giants fans couldnt talk enough, they were giving us all the Joey Porter treatment…….
    Now, as of the time I am posting this, there are only 4 comments about this……Classic. The band wagon is emptying out faster than PFT headquarters when Florio finishes dropping a deuce……
    Prior to the Super Bowl in 2007, you rarely saw Giants fans, after the SB, they were everywhere, but they are starting to go back to their hole now…..

  8. Hap says: Nov 9, 2009 9:27 AM

    The G’s have been overrated all year, and most of the so called “expert” prognosticators have bought in to the fact that they were good>great. Now look at them (G’s) and all the progs are running for cover. You know, the progs that said Dallas didn’t have a chance in hell.

  9. skip7 says: Nov 9, 2009 9:29 AM

    I’m a long-time Giants fan (think Frank Gifford & SamHuff days), and I hate to say it, but the Giants are in trouble. The loss of Plax ,Toomer & Ward, the loss of DC Spagnuolo, the injuries to Alford, Ross, Phillips, Ware, Canty, the once-dominant OL getting pushed around, the lack of a menacing LB, the feared DL not getting QB pressure & allowing too much running yardage … man, it’s not looking good right now. Their remaining schedule is a killer, and unless a fire is lit under Eli and the rest of the gang, a 7-9 record isn’t out of reach. Go Big Blue, but something’s got to get better, and now.

  10. Mr. Blue says: Nov 9, 2009 9:31 AM

    This loss was not the fault of the defense. It falls on the coaching staff’s shoulders. Gilbride can’t be fired soon enough. If Coughlin is sticking up for Gilbride, then he’s part of the problem too. At this point 8-8 is how the rest of the season probably shakes out. JAcobs was on his way to 120+ rushing game after the first quarter and they take him out. Can anyone with two brain cells please explain this to me?

  11. Coutre1 says: Nov 9, 2009 9:35 AM

    Eli sucks. That’s the problem. He just sucks.

  12. east96street says: Nov 9, 2009 9:36 AM

    I’m not in the locker room, so I can’t say this with 100% certainty, but it appears that Coughlin has lost the team. Fans will point out injuries, and they have hurt, but every team has them. This team doesn’t look like it could beat Tampa right now, so I don’t see how they could manage to beat Atlanta, Dallas, and Philly even with the games being played at home. They have two weeks to fix gaping holes and glaring problems and I don’t believe the team leadership is strong enough to pull it off. Unless a team with an entirely different attitude takes the field two weeks from now, they are done for this season. One can only hope that NY will have several new players at key positions next next year. This group just isn’t getting it done.

  13. FireJerryJones says: Nov 9, 2009 9:45 AM

    Maybe Corey Webster should call Ellis Hobbs for a little advice on what to say after getting ‘pantsed’ on national TV to end a game.

  14. bcharge says: Nov 9, 2009 9:55 AM

    Why didn’t you just title this article “Giants aftermath, because I don’t really care to write about the Chargers”. This is supposedly an aftermath of both teams, yet only one small paragraph about the Chargers in the whole post. Nice reporting…

  15. jkorn1818 says: Nov 9, 2009 10:06 AM

    Coutre1 says:
    November 9, 2009 9:35 AM
    Eli sucks. That’s the problem. He just sucks.
    ___________________________________
    Yet another post by someone who obviously didnt watch the game or knows football. This whole “eli sicks” thing is getting really boring already. In no way, shape or form was any of this his fault. He would have had a 90% completion percentage if there werent drops. He faced pressure all game, didnt turn the ball over and threw all over the chargers. Their defense didnt make a stop and the play calling on both sides of the ball were horrible. They could have iced the game a bunch of times but Killdrive was conservative. It baffles me how someone who didnt watch the game, or knows football just logs into an article and just posts something just to post it.

  16. licavoli says: Nov 9, 2009 10:31 AM

    I love me some Vincent Jackson!

  17. bavaro89 says: Nov 9, 2009 10:35 AM

    Bill’s Chin-
    Yeah Giants fans really came out of the woodwork. One of the longest season ticket waiting lists (if not the longest) in the league. One of the most recognizeable franchises with one of the longest and proudest histories. Total bandwoagon jumpers. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
    “You rarely saw Giants fans”. Get over yourself.

  18. DirtMcGirt24 says: Nov 9, 2009 10:58 AM

    Coughlin’s Giants record with Spagnuolo (including playoffs): 26-11 (.703)
    Coughlin’s Giants record without Spagnuolo (including playoffs): 30-29 (.508)
    Hixon’s 2009 Stats: 8 catches, 62 yards, 0 TD, 17 times targeted, 47.06% catches per times targeted, 3.65 yards per times targeted, 7.75 yards per catch
    Nicks’ 2009 Stats: 23 catches, 407 yards, 4 TD, 38 times targeted, 60.53% catches per times targeted, 10.71 yards per times targeted, 17.70 yards per catch

  19. Krow says: Nov 9, 2009 11:01 AM

    “I love me some Vincent Jackson!”
    Don’t vacation in Maine…

  20. DirtMcGirt24 says: Nov 9, 2009 11:02 AM

    bcharge says:
    November 9, 2009 9:55 AM
    Why didn’t you just title this article “Giants aftermath, because I don’t really care to write about the Chargers”. This is supposedly an aftermath of both teams, yet only one small paragraph about the Chargers in the whole post. Nice reporting…

  21. DonRSD says: Nov 9, 2009 11:07 AM

    FIRE BILL SHERIDAN
    the guy blitzes the final drive every play and we give up 60 or the 80 yards on the drive on passes over the middle
    then the last play when we dont blitz where was the safety help for webster!?!?
    my god we need Spags back.

  22. TylerDurden says: Nov 9, 2009 11:20 AM

    Chargers will scrap and fight thier way to a Wild Card…maybe even the AFC West title for a fourth season…..and then blow it in the playoffs….like always. Long live Norv!!

  23. Turd_Spelunker says: Nov 9, 2009 11:33 AM

    I care about the Chargers franchise.
    I want to point out my opinion that it does not really matter what Denver does tonight. The Chargers win the next two weeks, they are still only one game back. (Again, no matter what Denver does) If Denver does lose, all the better, Chargers tie for the lead in two weeks.
    All the bolts have to do is win, they have the division, that includes beating Denver. I know Denver is going to fold, at the VERY LEAST fold enough to lose 2 games, plus one to the Bolts. Give me some Vincent!

  24. Bigbluefan says: Nov 9, 2009 11:34 AM

    Eli should have been given the ball
    Eli is one of the top QBs when the game is on the line
    POOR Coaching is the teams only issue Eli had a rateing of 112 yesterday The FU field goal and the shitty play calling cost us a very big win
    As to you Giant Haters
    WE have a new Stadium do the Chargers
    WE have the QB the Chargers Wanted
    WE have A SB ring with that QB
    What do the chargers have hell who know they are blacked out most of the time because there fans are wimps
    Real football fans sit in the stands in Jan when the wind chill is zero The G-Men will bounce back if not this year next year
    And Eli will still be better the muddy rivers
    SO F off

  25. Lights Out 56 says: Nov 9, 2009 11:44 AM

    DirtMcGirt24 says:
    November 9, 2009 11:02 AM
    bcharge says:
    November 9, 2009 9:55 AM
    Why didn’t you just title this article “Giants aftermath, because I don’t really care to write about the Chargers”. This is supposedly an aftermath of both teams, yet only one small paragraph about the Chargers in the whole post. Nice reporting…

  26. Turd_Spelunker says: Nov 9, 2009 11:49 AM

    The last regular-season home game blacked out in the local market was on Nov. 7, 2004 versus the New Orleans Saints.
    Blacked out “Most of the time?” I would hate to see what you consider “All of the time.”

  27. Rich says: Nov 9, 2009 11:57 AM

    Bigbluefan – as they say on the field…scoreboard son…
    cause what you don’t have is a win.
    Career passer rating:
    Manning – 77.6
    Rivers – 93.2
    Careers aren’t made off 1 SB win (see Trent Dilfer)…your boy is soft and no one who is the least bit objective even mentions him in the same breath as Rivers.

  28. NzYme says: Nov 9, 2009 12:12 PM

    @licavoli
    Did you even watch the game? Eli did NOT lose that game. He actually played one of his better games of the season. The BS play calling in the redzone and poor defense gameplan under 2 mins in the game sank this one.

  29. dave says: Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM

    charger fan here, and while i hate eli’s guts for that whiny crap he pulled prior to the draft
    yesterday he played great
    it’s obvious that the giants injuries on the D side of the ball, and their crappy oline are the real culprits in their mid season demise
    look at that oline yesterday, any normal qb would have been sacked 9 times, but Eli has some wicked escapability, i give him props for that
    i’m happy we have rivers because he’s put up the better numbers in his career with a defense that isn’t as good as the giants sb D was, but it’s starting to look like eli’s oline is actually worse than rivers’ oline…..i pity him.

  30. Coutre1 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:34 PM

    jkorn1818 says:
    November 9, 2009 10:06 AM
    Coutre1 says:
    November 9, 2009 9:35 AM
    Eli sucks. That’s the problem. He just sucks.
    ___________________________________
    Yet another post by someone who obviously didnt watch the game or knows football. This whole “eli sicks” thing is getting really boring already. In no way, shape or form was any of this his fault. He would have had a 90% completion percentage if there werent drops. He faced pressure all game, didnt turn the ball over and threw all over the chargers. Their defense didnt make a stop and the play calling on both sides of the ball were horrible. They could have iced the game a bunch of times but Killdrive was conservative. It baffles me how someone who didnt watch the game, or knows football just logs into an article and just posts something just to post it.
    Listen you fairweather fan. Eli sucks. Accept it. If his last name was anything but Manning, he would be an average QB at BEST. He whines, he pouts and has zero leadership ability. He is a crybaby. That’s awesome the Giants locked him up as long as they did. They won’t win again w/him.

  31. bavaro89 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM

    Rich- Rivers is good and better than Eli. You can’t just discount the Ring though and your boy did throw 2 picks yesterday. He’s a loudmouth who should just shut up and play until he wins some hardware.
    Another career stat:
    SB Wins Since 2004 Draft:
    NYG 1
    SD 0

  32. Booze Lee says: Nov 9, 2009 12:52 PM

    @Bigbluefag…
    hahaha eli better than rivers? the joke is on you son. karma is a bitch, just like you after being served a loss by your most hated team.

  33. Opinionated Fool says: Nov 9, 2009 1:02 PM

    To all the Giants fans who think Eli sucks… We hate him in San Diego. Always will. But the truth is, he’s actually a very good QB. He even had a decent game yesterday, and his numbers were a lot better than River’s. Penalties, dumb special teams mistakes and poor play calling killed your day.
    Eli just needs someone to teach him how to look like a man on the sidelines. Every time the camera pans to him, he looks like a dejected 12 year-old little brother instead of a man who plays professional football for a living. So dump your coaches and send Eli to the Actor’s Studio.

  34. george says: Nov 9, 2009 1:08 PM

    The Chargers have sold out every home game since 2004.

  35. east96street says: Nov 9, 2009 1:15 PM

    I have to laugh at the Dallas fans that call the Giants “overrated”. Let’s see, which team had 11 Pro Bowlers, had home field advantage throughout the playoffs, had the owner give them all tickets to NFC Championship game BEFORE their first playoff game, and then lost to the wildcard team? DALLAS! Which team had an owner hand pick his team’s opponents for the closing of their old stadium and the opening of their new stadium because he “knew” his team would win both games and then they lost both games? DALLAS. NO TEAM in NFL HISTORY has been more overrated, more often, than the Dallas Cowboys. 1996, boys, 1996. And yet you assclowns still talk like Dallas has won the last six Lombardis. “Everything’s bigger in Texas”, especially delusion and denial. Yeah, the Giants are stinking up the field and Dallas is making a run, hats off to you. But the Boys haven’t won jack in well over decade. Come back and talk when your team wins a game in January or, better still, February. In the meantime, keep stuffing the ballot boxes so your players can all go to the Pro Bowl. It’s the only post season game any of them have had a chance to win in years.

  36. jkorn1818 says: Nov 9, 2009 2:21 PM

    Coutre1 says:
    November 9, 2009 12:34 PM
    fair weather fan?? what does that even mean? and youre basing this on one post? you wrote a ridiculous comment blaming yesterdays loss on eli when it was everything but him.
    and the other guy, the giants got beat by their most hated team? since when were the chargers on their radar? why would a giants fan care about the afc west? get a grip.

  37. Ocelot138 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:32 PM

    Wow, are the Giants lording a SuperBowl win irrelevant to the conversation over the Chargers after they lost to them?
    Congratulations, Giants fans. You’ve become Cowboys fans.

  38. SmarttAss says: Nov 9, 2009 7:21 PM

    To: Bigbluefan
    The Chargers have 2 things the giants don’t:
    #1. A “W” in week 9
    #2. The longest non-blacout streak in the NFL 2 weeks from now.
    Don’t be upset. Giants are just a bit overrated now that Eli lost his primary targets.

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