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Week Nine Morning Aftermath: Cowboys 20, Eagles 16

The Dallas Cowboys have come a long way since last year’s 44-6 debacle at Lincoln Financial Field.  Neither the visitors nor the Eagles had been all that impressive in getting off to 5-2 starts, with their only impressive wins (one each) coming at home.

So with their first chance to score a quality road victory since the game in Denver during which quarterback Tony Romo didn’t know it was fourth down, the Cowboys capitalized.

It wasn’t pretty, by any means.  Neither team had much of a running game.  Or much of a passing game.  In a season of ’70s-style blowout, this one felt like one of those bland, low-scoring contests from the days before the rule changes aimed at opening up the offense.

Though the Philly offense ever got into much of a rhythm (even with sparing use of the Wildcat), and it still appeared the Eagles would find a way to win until Romo finally found breakout receiver Miles Austin — and make it count with a 49-yard touchdown.

But then Eagles coach Andy Reid made a huge mistake.  He assumed that Romo would also find a way to not convert a single first down in the waning moments of the game.

Allow us to elaborate.

With 4:33 to play and facing fourth and 11 from the Dallas 34, Reid opted for a 52-yard field goal try.  Even though the Eagles were trailing by seven points at the time.

If Philly had their full allotment of time outs, it might have made a little more sense.  But with no way to stop the clock (thanks to two too many failed challenges), all it took was two first downs to keep the Eagles from getting the ball back.

Sure, some might say that 11 yards was too far to gain on a fourth-down play.  Freddie Mitchell would disagree.  Besides, either way Philly needed a touchdown to avoid the loss in regulation.  If they hadn’t converted on fourth down, the Eagles would have been in the same position they were after taking the three points.

After the game, Reid wasn’t in the mood to elaborate about the decision to give the Cowboys a chance to nail down the win without much effort. 

“There were four minutes left, and I thought we would get the ball back and win the game,” Reid said.

But we’d still love to know why he thought that it made more sense to give the ball back to Dallas while still needing a touchdown to win, given that the Eagles had no way of stopping the clock.

It gets no easier for the Eagles moving forward.  Four of the next gfive games will be played on the road, with trips to San Diego, Chicago, Atlanta, and New York.  So despite a strong start to the season, the November plunge to .500 could be happening again, and we Reid should be hoping he gets that contract extension before relying on another late-season run that finishes deep in January.

Indeed, duplicating last year’s Thanksgiving-and-beyond success might be an even taller order than hoping to keep the Cowboys from converting a single first down.

As to the Cowboys, we’ve got to give them credit.  They’ve gotten their first significant road win since knocking off the Packers at Lambeau Field in September 2008.  Dallas now returns to Wisconsin to play a desperate Green Bay team.  Another win there would position the Cowboys to carry a 9-2 record into the Meadowlands for the first game of the December stretch run.

Then the question becomes whether they’ll find a way to win beyond Week Seventeen for the first time in 13 years.

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  1. Patrian says: Nov 9, 2009 11:45 AM

    Mark it down… this is the year…
    (Cue the haters…)

  2. mustbechris says: Nov 9, 2009 11:50 AM

    “Then the question becomes whether they’ll find a way to win beyond Week Seventeen for the first time in 13 years.”
    No.

  3. Nobe says: Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM

    Andy Reid set the Eagles on an inevitable, irreversible course when he made bad decisions during the offseason relating to the Eagles’ offensive line.
    Any (even otherwise inferior) team that can create a pass rush will beat the Eagles’ stiffs up front, pressure McNabb to revert to his ball at the feet or behind the receivers tendencies, and force the Eagles to run the ball behind the stiffs up front.
    Shame every other person who follows the Eagles can see this except the person who caused it.
    Remember Joe Banner’s statements about not going back every year and repeating the same thing. Well, they’re repeating the same thing.
    Contract extensions for everyone!!!!!!!

  4. NachoBidness says: Nov 9, 2009 11:52 AM

    you forgot to mention the real beauty of the Cowboys running the same play on them 3 times in a row to run the clock down. kudoes to my boy Austin for finally showing up in a season since I’ve been touting him for the last 3 years.

  5. Hap says: Nov 9, 2009 11:55 AM

    Now, where are all the “expert prognosticators” that said Dallas would be a non-factor in the division at ? Where are all the “experts” that said Dallas wouldn’t win vs Philly ? Where are all the “experts” that said The Dallas Cowboys would finish a distant 3rd to The Giants and the Eagles ?
    Die in your vomit, The Cowboys are BACK !
    The Cowboys are in 1st place and the Cowboys are good and getting better.
    It was Bill Parcells that said “Good teams win 2 games in a row. Great teams win 3 in a row. Even better teams win 4 or more in a row.”
    Just where does that put The Cowboys ? Even better, even better than The Eagles AND The Giants.

  6. chapnasty says: Nov 9, 2009 11:56 AM

    Wow. Good work Mr. Florio, no Cowboy bashing at all.

  7. va4daboys says: Nov 9, 2009 11:56 AM

    Where are all the SHeagle fans talking “S***” now

  8. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 11:56 AM

    “So with their first chance to score a quality road victory since the game in Denver during which quarterback Tony Romo didn’t know it was fourth down”
    Give it up, Mike. Your Eagirls got their asses whipped at home in front of their women. They got beaten by a bunch of undrafted guys and second day draft picks. Sorry. Deal with it.
    “It wasn’t pretty, by any means. Neither team had much of a running game. Or much of a passing game.”
    Romo threw for >300 at over 9 yards per attempt, a late, clutch score and a gutsy call to ice the game on 3rd and 3, I’d say that the Cowboys had a pretty effective passing game.
    As for the “wasn’t pretty” part, it’s called defensive football.
    “But with no way to stop the clock (thanks to two too many failed challenges), all it took was one first down to keep the Eagles from getting the ball back.”
    The Cowboys got two first downs on that final possession.
    “Sure, some might say that 11 yards was too far to gain on a fourth-down play. Freddie Mitchell would disagree. Besides, either way Philly needed a touchdown to avoid the loss in regulation. If they hadn’t converted on fourth down, the Eagles would have been in the same position they were after taking the three points.”
    Misplaced arrogance. Reid was counting not only on the defense to stop the Cowboys, he was counting on the Eagirls to march down the field and score a TD. The smart play would have been to go for it on 4th, if you don’t make it THEN call on the D to make a play and work on forcing OT.
    “Then the question becomes whether they’ll find a way to win beyond Week Seventeen for the first time in 13 years.”
    One game at a time. Worry about January in January.

  9. Bill In DC says: Nov 9, 2009 11:57 AM

    “Denver during which quarterback Tony Romo didn’t know it was fourth down”
    What a small, petty person, and a complete waste as a ‘reporter’ you are. You know as well as everyone else that Romo clearly knew it was 4th down and you’ve known it for weeks. Why repeat a lame, baseless charge like this as part of your ‘analysis’? I’m surprised you didn’t work the botched snap, etc into it too. I wonder why you don’t recount all past mistakes (or make believe mistakes) for any other QB in your ‘analysis’ of their games. Professional reporters shouldn’t report known not to be true, baseless accusations…. EVER.
    But, it’s what I’ve come to expect from a ‘closet’ Cowboys Hater masquerading as ‘neutral’ who lacks the intestinal fortitude to admit his prejudice.

  10. brewcrewe says: Nov 9, 2009 12:01 PM

    Funny how before the game everyone said this would be the first tough team the Cowboys have faced, and now after its over, everyone says the Eagles were overrated. I imagine if the Cowboys win the Superbowl, they will all say they were the luckiest Superbowl team of all time.
    BTW…No punts have hit the board this year,and none of the people who said it would be a problem, have come forward and admited they were wrong.

  11. delius1967 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:02 PM

    This is the third commentator I’ve seen refer to this game as “boring”, meaning, I guess, that the final score wasn’t 45-44. I couldn’t disagree more.
    Personally, I LIKE seeing good defense. It irritates me that nowadays, anytime an offense fails to run down the field like it was a scrimmage, the blame is placed on the offense for “not getting it going”. It was clear in this game that the offenses were not going to run wild; both defenses were hitting hard, hitting often. It was a much more balanced type of game, and sadly, that is an underappreciated thing in the modern era.
    I hate the pinball games where you are basically just waiting to see HOW a team scores, not if they score. This was a struggle, not because the offenses weren’t clicking, but because the defenses were.
    I’m thrilled at the outcome, but my eyes are starting to hurt from all the rolling they are doing at commentary about the “blandness” of the game. This was as close a contest as you could ask for. Go watch basketball if you want to see triple-digit scoring.

  12. Hap says: Nov 9, 2009 12:02 PM

    Why stop at 13 years ? There have been 2 teams that have won 3 Super Bowls in the last 20 years. 1 of those teams is The Dallas Cowboys.
    The 8X NFC Champion Dallas Cowboys.
    The 5X Super Bowl Champion Dallas Cowboys.
    The NFC East leading Dallas Cowboys has a nice ring to it, eh Florio ?

  13. dct206 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:02 PM

    If you’re that confident you can get the ball back, why not try to get the first down anyway? If you fail, then you still have the opportunity to stop Dallas and get the ball back. They’re also on their own 34, so it’s not conceding an easy field goal to go down by two scores. Logic makes no sense.

  14. AirlineGuy says: Nov 9, 2009 12:03 PM

    Nice attempt at taking some shots at Dallas, but everyone who matters already knows you are just a hater.
    As for Reid giving the ball back and then not wanting to talk about it after the game…perhaps he didn’t know he had NO timeouts. You are still saying Tony didn’t know it was 4th when he has stated he did and there have been numerous articles where he explained why he was complaining to the ref. Add to that the fact that DMac didn’t know games could end in a tie last year.
    Not too far fetched that the Walrus didn’t know his timeout situation. Besides, when have YOU ever needed any basis for making up hairbrained conspiracy theories?

  15. Ben B says: Nov 9, 2009 12:03 PM

    I’ve had it. I cannot support Andy any longer. The Andy and Donovan Incompetence show continues. He coached like its his first day on the job. It is the same movie over and over and over. We will make the playoffs and lose. 1-9-1 in 7 pt or less games. No 4th quarter comebacks in 4 years. And that was against the raiders so it may or may not count.

  16. Jerry's World says: Nov 9, 2009 12:05 PM

    Great Cowboy win. Didn’t play well at all and still won so that is good to see. Finally all those Egirl fans won’t even every post with “44-6″. But of course, their next comment will be something to the effect of how many years its been since we won a playoff game. All I have to say to that is how long has it been since you won a superbowl? Great win cowboys, 4 in a row and 1st in the NFC East!

  17. footballrulz says: Nov 9, 2009 12:12 PM

    As a Packer fan I’d say you can pretty much count on a Cowboy victory next week. Hell, I’d just aobut bet my house on it. Pathetic.

  18. cowboys suck says: Nov 9, 2009 12:13 PM

    Not to say the Eagles didn’t beat themselves in many aspects, but that 4th and inches challenge was BS. McNabb was at least half a yard ahead of the marker. Fokuo single handedly beat the Eagels with his penalties alone (one on the Ellis Hobbs TD return) and the referee didn’t know offense from defense or even which way to look for the cameras. This was a sloppy game. Now everyone is back on the Tony Romo’s jock and how awesome he is.

  19. NFLJunkie says: Nov 9, 2009 12:16 PM

    So 307 yards by Romo on the road with a blitz happy Eagles team equals “not much of a passing game” by Florio? Surprise, surprise that the Dallas hater shows his true colors.

  20. TheDPR says: Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM

    Andy Reid struggles with clock management.
    Stop the presses.

  21. sundays and beer mmmm says: Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM

    This game was awesome and very intense throughout. Both teams brought the heat on defense. Good game Philly fans. We’ll see you in week 17.
    GO COWBOYS!

  22. bezee23 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM

    Ive been awful quiet Florio, I will wait to let you have it tomorrow after I see how you continue to give us no respect in the rankings tomorrow.
    “As to the Cowboys, we’ve got to give them credit.”
    Lol at that because I know you dont want to.
    “Some people say I’m crazy as a snake”

  23. Jarmahead says: Nov 9, 2009 12:18 PM

    Wow…I’m impressed with the lack of “Cowboy Hate” in your article….I even saw encouraging words such as “give” and “credit” to the Cowboys.
    The game wasn’t pretty and could have easily went either way for a while.
    The lack of 3rd and 4th down conversions for the Eagles definitely helped the Cowboys Romomentum :)

  24. duffsbeer says: Nov 9, 2009 12:22 PM

    It does make sense to gamblers and fantasy football. I wonder if Reid maybe has Akers as the kicker on his ff team?
    I know the idiotic decision to kick a meaningless field goal cost me my ff game this week. Lost by 1 point thanks to that stupid Akers FG. From here on out I will cheer for every team that plays against the eaglets.

  25. RomoMomentum says: Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM

    Once again, Florio doesn’t actually watch the games before he unleashes his Cowboys hate the following morning.
    See:
    “He assumed that Romo would also find a way to not convert a single first down in the waning moments of the game.”
    AND
    “But with no way to stop the clock (thanks to two too many failed challenges), all it took was one first down to keep the Eagles from getting the ball back.”
    Both statements, FALSE. What’s worse, is Florio even mentions that there was 4:33 left, then states twice that one first down would end the game. I guess he forgot about Barber’s 1st down run picking up 16 yards was the FIRST first down. The second time the Cowboys picked up a first down was when Romo hit Witten to pick it up.
    Therefore, “all it took” was not ONE first down, “all it took” was TWO first downs.

  26. Frank Burns says: Nov 9, 2009 12:31 PM

    Demarcus Where?
    Once again, not showing up in a big game.

  27. chapnasty says: Nov 9, 2009 12:33 PM

    @ cowboysuck
    You my friend are the only person watching, on the field, in the stands or anywhere that could see McNabbs left elbow that was hidden in the pile so you obviously know he had a first down. You are amazing and the NFL should pay you for in depth plays that require some sort of super x-ray vision that allows you to see into a pile of players. Great work.

  28. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM

    Hap says: November 9, 2009 11:55 AM
    Now, where are all the “expert prognosticators” that said Dallas would be a non-factor in the division at ? Where are all the “experts” that said Dallas wouldn’t win vs Philly ?
    ________________________________
    Sorry Hap, but everyone on the Fox pregame show picked the Cowboys over the Eagles…….

  29. Hap says: Nov 9, 2009 12:43 PM

    Notice how quick they got another post up so as to keep Flo’s embarassment to a minimum ?
    Flo should go to work with the real haters of Cowboys, northEastSoxandPatriotsNetwork.
    All their prog’s are scrambling today to discredit The Cowboys in some form or fashion. Can’t you just hear espn now? “Dallas has only beat 2 teams with a winning record.”Please.
    The Cowboys are for real and showed it last night with that drubbing of Flo’s Eag’s.

  30. redsquare says: Nov 9, 2009 12:45 PM

    The Cowboys never make it easy on themselves (or fans), but that was an impressive win for them for one big reason: they withstood all the pressure and did just what they needed to do, and looked pretty unflappable in doing it.
    It was far from perfect; there were far too many head-slapping penalties which helped keep Eagles drives alive. And they failed to take enough advantage of some opportunities they were given (keeping the opponent in the game–a classic Cowboys fault).
    But they kept their heads together, never let the crowd or circumstances scramble them, and just kept coming back and doing what was needed. They didn’t make huge mistakes, didn’t use bad strategy, and even though they seemed a bit flat at times, they never really seemed incapable.
    That may sound like faint praise, but it’s more than that–this is what the Cowboys have been missing for years: a simple, solid, no-nonsense win under very adverse conditions and expectations. They made a high-flying opponent look very ordinary, never blinked at what was thrown at them, and didn’t give up the big plays, which has been a killer in the past.
    If they can keep it up, there’s no reason they won’t get at least a playoff win this year, if not more.

  31. ryanmace says: Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM

    Where are the haters?

    “Though the Philly offense ever got into much of a rhythm (even with sparing use of the Wildcat), and it still appeared the Eagles would find a way to win until Romo finally found breakout receiver Miles Austin — and make it count with a 49-yard touchdown.” Florio you’re such a biased homer.

    Fantastic win. And yes, I’m so sick of all of the haters. On top of that Dallas fans are expected to be a classy bunch, even though its fully OK for Eagle fans to continue to be the sore losing, ill-mannered, low-income group that they are.

    Shout out to John Harbaugh for maybe providing the bulletin board material this week. And shout outs to everyone else (ESPN Sunday NFL Countdown Team, Brandon Jacobs, etc.) for your continuing bashing of the Cowboys

    They only hate you when you’re on top, anyways. That’s how this country works. I guess that’s why Dallas is hated all the time.

  32. bezee23 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:51 PM

    Eagles fans are the dumbest people walking around this nation.
    Did any one hear the boos they showered on their beloved team after the FIRST QUARTER? Goodness people yall give a new meaning to the term knee jerk. Listen to them up there can you hear the ‘thuds’? Thats their feet hitting the ground as the hop back off the bandwagon lol.
    And here they go crying about the two challenges. Anyone who challenges two spots in the second half of an intense game is pathetic. Both spots were generous at best.
    It has become clear to me that Florio is an obvious WEASEL. I’m surprised his bosses at MSNBC havent gotten his termination papers in order for picking the ‘Skins to win the bowl. If I hired a guy who made that prediction to write on my staff I would be calling my own job into question.
    Never the less….lets put this one behind us. Good win, way more work to do. I’m more worried about the cold weather than I am the Green Bay Packers. We just never look good in the cold.

  33. RomoMomentum says: Nov 9, 2009 12:52 PM

    I love how Florio updated the article after I pointed out the error in my comment above, yet he doesn’t give any credit and pretends like he was correct the whole time? Fail.

  34. Burritto says: Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM

    “Four of the next give games will be played on the road…”
    Oops.

  35. newty25 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:57 PM

    I relish these articles at how it’s so difficult for you to give the Cowboys credit when your team is an absolute disaster.

  36. zeke777 says: Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM

    “with their only impressive wins (one each) coming at home”
    “One each”? Did Florio miss the Eagles’ beating of the Panthers in week one? Granted, the Panthers are awful, but it was still impressive.

  37. Leviathan says: Nov 9, 2009 12:59 PM

    Not much of a 300 yard passing game, yeah.

  38. East Bay Ray says: Nov 9, 2009 1:07 PM

    You’re such a hack, Florio. At the very least, it is unknowable whether Romo knew it was 4th down in the Broncos game. He claims he did. It’s wrong to report it as fact that he didn’t, especially when it has no relevance to last night’s game.
    As for last night’s game, as others have mentioned, the Cowboys made 2 1st downs on that last possession to ice it. Get your facts straight. Questioning Reid’s decision to go for that FG is legitimate, but they probably would’ve failed to convert a 4th and 11. What you don’t report is that the Cowboys pass defense was very good last night. They are improved this season due to the emergence of Mike Jenkins, return to health of Terence Newman and addition of Gerald Sensabaugh at safety. You could report that, but you’d rather take potshots at Romo than give readers insight into the game.
    Maybe you should just stick to reporting Terry Bradshaw’s death and espousing “shooter in the grassy knoll” theories about Steve McNair’s death.

  39. gnop05 says: Nov 9, 2009 1:15 PM

    # cowboys suck says: November 9, 2009 12:13 PM
    Not to say the Eagles didn’t beat themselves in many aspects, but that 4th and inches challenge was BS. McNabb was at least half a yard ahead of the marker. Fokuo single handedly beat the Eagels with his penalties alone (one on the Ellis Hobbs TD return) and the referee didn’t know offense from defense or even which way to look for the cameras. This was a sloppy game. Now everyone is back on the Tony Romo’s jock and how awesome he is.
    ___________
    I couldn’t agree with this post more.
    The Fokuo holding penalty was a f-ing JOKE. The Cowboy pure flattened him.. meaning.. they both went to the ground. I like how it took Collinsworth 20 minutes to constitute the awful call.
    Samuel’s taunting call.. AWFUL… Pretty sure they were both smiling and Asante even helped him up.
    On about 4 occasions I had no idea what the official was saying. Made no sense. Why are there no officials in the league under 80 years old? Is there a criteria I’m missing here? Do you have to be a member of AARP to apply? Perhaps they should look into that.
    Why didn’t they move the ball 6-7 inches (per Collinsworth) forward after the 4th and inches play? He clearly made it further than the spot. They should’ve moved the ball forward and re-measured. That’s the least they could’ve done since it was such a “big game”.
    Just very poor officiating. A lot of blown calls against both teams, however, they might as well just have thrown yellow paint on the Eagles though.
    Conclusion: Seems the Cowboys have found redemption in barely squeaking one out after the humiliating 44-6 loss last year (mind you, this game had MUCH less riding on it). But these teams will meet one another again, likely when the Cowboys are beginning to fade to black, like always in December.
    Let’s see the Cowboys beat the Eagles when it means something. Hasn’t happened in a long, long while..

  40. Sasquash says: Nov 9, 2009 1:16 PM

    Wow that game sucked. Andy Reid must go. Cowboys are a solid team,not great but solid. And Andy Reid a gain helped the Eagles lose by not being able to make adjustments. Tell me when he has ever made an adjustment. They never make 4th qrt come backs, they don’t try to run making passing more predictable and easy to defend. NFC east is way overrated. Also any Cowboys fan that thinks they have a shot a superbowl your insane. Romo will choke just like his coach all ways does in the playoffs. Eagles fans unfortantly Reid will never guid the Eagles to a superbowl either. Should have had two but they choked as usual. Lets go Flyers

  41. Hooby says: Nov 9, 2009 1:19 PM

    yeah florio dont mention that the refs COMPLETELY blew that 4th down conversion call that reid challenged. if hes on top of the pile hes not down. hes down when his elbow hits the ground. that happened when the ball was about a yard and a half past the marker.
    im not saying the cowboys dont deserve the win, im not saying the eagles do. im saying the refs of that game deserve to be fired.

  42. manofaiki says: Nov 9, 2009 1:34 PM

    Uh Mike look, I know your job is to keep things lively here and keep people reading and you need controversy and contrary opinions to keep that happening and all, but this is just leaving objectivity behind:
    “So with their first chance to score a quality road victory since the game in Denver during which quarterback Tony Romo didn’t know it was fourth down, the Cowboys capitalized.
    It wasn’t pretty, by any means. Neither team had much of a running game. Or much of a passing game. In a season of ’70s-style blowout, this one felt like one of those bland, low-scoring contests from the days before the rule changes aimed at opening up the offense.”
    That ‘Romo didn’t know it was 4th down’ BS got shot down weeks ago. Why are you still pushing it?
    Neither team had much of a passing game? Romo threw for over 300 yards to 7 different receivers. With the special attention that Miles Austin is finally getting down the field, Roy Williams and Jason Witten caught 12 balls underneath for 118 yards between them. And Austin still burned the Eagles for the game winner.
    What would qualify for ‘much of a passing game’? A 400 yard game?
    Dallas amassed 376 yards from it’s offensive unit; Philly got 316.
    Any game an offense generates less than 400 yards is considered not much of an offense? Then why do sportswriters always make it a point to mention when one of the offenses in a game manages to break the 4oo yard mark, like it’s some sort of high mark?
    The offenses looked fine to me; the problem was the red zone defenses in the game did a pretty damn good job to keep the scoring down. Dallas especially had to settle for several FG’s after driving down inside the 20.

  43. GO GREEN says: Nov 9, 2009 1:39 PM

    VoxVeritas says: Your Eagirls got their asses whipped . Funny for a guy who said this was no big deal , just another game you sure are crowing aolt about 4 pt.
    4 pts does not make an ass whipping in my neck of the woods. I don’t think either team played well it was won by the team that sucked less and that was the Cowboys last night. Hang your hat on that .
    the going for a field goal when they needed 7 still has me scratching my head, but then again so did the choice to go for a field goal when you’re down 44-3 . go figure ??

  44. manofaiki says: Nov 9, 2009 1:40 PM

    Let me just add here that if Tony Romo had been the guy asking for a 4th timeout in the second half of a game he was attempting to lead his team down the field with just over a minute left trailing by 7 to the Raiders Mike, you’d still be talking about it.
    You certainly would have worked it into this article somewhere.
    How come it never gets mentioned?

  45. Patrian says: Nov 9, 2009 1:41 PM

    Bad calls go both ways and only punks cry about it.
    Big pass intereference call missed with Roy Williams in end zone. Jason Witten illegal contact call was total garbage, and the first challenge should have moved the ball from 4 and inches to 4th an 3 (a GOOD false start call helped this cause anyway).
    In any event, Cowboys won.

  46. redsquare says: Nov 9, 2009 1:42 PM

    Most of you bemoaning that 4th-down call replay are missing the point. Yes, it’s true that the replay showed McNabb’s right arm and the football a good 6-7 inches ahead of the spot.
    But the point is that his left arm is invisible in the replay–so there’s no way to tell whether it was down and if so, where. Thus, by the rules of replay, without absolute, indisputable evidence, the ruling on the field won’t be changed.
    It sure *looked* like McNabb got further than the spot–based on what we could see. But there’s simply no way to know for sure without his other arm visible, so the call stands.
    Like I often say, if you’re in a position where one call going against you loses the game for you, then you haven’t done enough to win the game.

  47. drbob1117 says: Nov 9, 2009 1:42 PM

    The Cowboys needed Walt Anderson’s incompetent officiating to take away a kick return touchdown, a long interception return that would have put the Birds in business at the Cowboy 35, and nullify two first downs that anyone in the stadium other than Anderson clould clearly see were picked up, in one case by about half a yard. I’m looking forward to the rematch in Dallas in January, when Romo reverts to form and the Eagles don’t get jobbed every few minutes. Let’s just wait and see who wins the division.

  48. CKL says: Nov 9, 2009 1:47 PM

    I am a Pats fan. I dislike the Cowboys and I despise the Eagles. I don’t like Romo much but I am SICK TO DEATH of media who overcriticize him and never EVER criticize McNabb. It’s pretty bush league to talk about that whole 4th down thing with Romo which he denied and never once mention that McNabb ADMITTED he had no idea how many timeouts you get in a half when they played Oak (I believe).
    I picked Philly to win the game based on what I thought would be their usual MO, get a big lead thanks to their defense either scoring or giving the O the ball in favorable field position then letting McNabb play from far ahead which is the ONLY way he can win. Had I know the Eagles would fall behind and he would have to bring them back I would have said automatic loss for Philly.
    I really believe and have never heard elsewhere that the reason McNabb doesn’t throw many INTs is that he throws dirt balls instead of the overthrows/tips that usually wind up as INTs.

  49. va4daboys says: Nov 9, 2009 1:51 PM

    Hooby says:
    November 9, 2009 1:19 PM
    yeah florio dont mention that the refs COMPLETELY blew that 4th down conversion call that reid challenged. if hes on top of the pile hes not down. hes down when his elbow hits the ground. that happened when the ball was about a yard and a half past the marker.
    im not saying the cowboys dont deserve the win, im not saying the eagles do. im saying the refs of that game deserve to be fired.
    He was down when the whistle blew.

  50. RomoMomentum says: Nov 9, 2009 1:52 PM

    Hooby: What about the 2 no-call blatant pass interference calls from Asante Samuel on Roy Williams? The Jason Witten pass interference call for creating seperation within 5 yards? Don’t try to pin this on those calls, they reviewed them and there wasn’t visual evidence to overturn the calls. Had they been allowed to review the non-call Asante PI’s on Williams, they would have seen blatant PI.

  51. Wags15 says: Nov 9, 2009 1:57 PM

    for Hooby and anybody else who still thinks the 4th down non-reversal was a blown call please watch the replay again. forget the right elbow and watch his left elbow. it was down before he slid down the player he was on top of. was the right call. and again, even if he was given the first down the eagles werent even in field goal range. assuming that the eagles were gauranteed even a field goal out of that is a stretch.

  52. andres says: Nov 9, 2009 2:00 PM

    You eagirls fans are so f…ing funny you can try and blame on the refs but the fact of the matter is they made bad calls against both teams (See Samuel’s pass interference against Roy Williams with a ref standing 3 yards away and not calling it). This was a great win against a good team (yes I do aknowledge the eagles are a good team) , but right now they must focus on the Packers, they were the most overrated team of the preaseason (Don Banks picked for the SB for Pete’s sake)but they are still dangerous.
    GO COWBOYS!!!!!!

  53. Ocelot138 says: Nov 9, 2009 2:00 PM

    The Cowboys always seen to win the first game of the season in a squeaker. Then, it seems, the Eagles come back and win the 2nd. See: 44-6, Brian Westbrook’s drop at the 1 yard line to run out the clock, etc.
    It was a good game, with two evenly matched teams. It came down to penalties and officiating, and the Eagles had WAY more of that go against them. Not blaming that on the loss, just saying that when two even teams go head to head those things become the difference maker.
    Good on all of the Cowboys fans who saw this game as good because of the play on the field, not because they got a W.
    And to those of you saying Cowboys fans are all class… see: Hap, chapnasty, Vox Veritas and this guy: “Eagles fans are the dumbest people walking around this nation.”
    You’re the worst fans in the nation, which is why everybody outside of Dallas (and the scattered fanbase of frontrunners who started liking them in the mid-90’s) hates the Cowboys.

  54. brewcrewe says: Nov 9, 2009 2:02 PM

    Typical Eagle fans….lose and blame everything and everyone except for the crappy play of your own team, and the fact that a better team won.
    I wonder why everyone thinks yall are so classless.

  55. DallasDeathStar says: Nov 9, 2009 2:07 PM

    Dear Mike Florio ,
    Please drop me an email or give me a call. I was wondering if you could tell me what we need to do this week to help our team win. I have talked to everyone on the team even Albert Haynesworth but still no answers. I can tell by your PFT site that you are a true Redskins fan like myself. I too, like you, hate the Cowboys. I am willing to pay top dollar for your help. I know that your football knowledge is limited but by checking my history as an NFL owner that means very little. Thanks Daniel Snyder owner Washington Redskins

  56. kravon says: Nov 9, 2009 2:18 PM

    Good job Cowboys, but just a reminder that you are who everything thinks you are.
    Nobody is going to give you the respect you feel you deserve until you win a playoff game.
    Congratulations, you FINALLY won a game you really needed to win.

  57. purpleguy says: Nov 9, 2009 2:24 PM

    Hey Cowboys fans, lighten up on the “we don’t get any respect angle” for cripe’s sake. Florio doesn’t rip on your team any more than any other. Geez, win a couple games and it’s nothing but “where are the haters now” crap. Take a cue from your fearless leader Vox and wait until January till you start your strutting.

  58. cowboys suck says: Nov 9, 2009 2:55 PM

    Hey Cowboys fans, do yourself a favor and speak when Phony Homo actually wins in a playoff scenario. McNabb has 9 playoff wins, one NFC chamionship title and that’s not including the 44-6 game that was essentially a playoff game in itself. Wait, I hear it now, Cowboys have 5 rings! OK, well compare todays Eagles to todays Cowboys, past decade let’s say. You have been owned by the Eagles and it shows no sign of change. My thoughts are its about time you won, and you did it in the worst fashion imaginable. Congrats! Philly fans have loyalty and passion…all you have is the tag of “America’s Team” and you ride those coat tails out of some missplaced delusion of granduer. How in the hell did the suburban sprawl of a crap hole called Dallas get “America’s Team”…Dallas is the most uncultured, snobby place on earth. You want to give any team that tag, give it to the Steelers. They encompass what America is way better than the Dallas Cowpatties

  59. TP7 says: Nov 9, 2009 2:57 PM

    Two words.

  60. DallasDeathStar says: Nov 9, 2009 3:14 PM

    @cowboys suck
    You call Dallas a crap hole? Anyone thats taken a ride down the Schuylkill Expressway looking to the right can say without a doubt that your city is a true Landfill Dump. Littered with garbage inside and out. You fans prove every NFL season that thet are an embarrassment to the football world. Booing your QB in the first quarter of a 7 point game O.K. thats loyality????? Dont confuse passion and culture with ignorance!

  61. gnop05 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:21 PM

    “Like I often say, if you’re in a position where one call going against you loses the game for you, then you haven’t done enough to win the game.”
    Playing devil’s advocate here.. The above statement is true, but kind of contradicts the winning team, as in: Did they really do enough to win?

  62. gnop05 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:25 PM

    “Booing your QB in the first quarter of a 7 point game O.K. thats loyality????? Dont confuse passion and culture with ignorance!”
    Pretty sure that’s only 68,000 fans out of hundreds of thousands of fans.
    Let’s put this whole “stereotyping” in perspective: Anyone who has “death” in their name is dark and has murdering tendencies.
    I can’t stand people talking smack about other teams’ fans and generalizing them. I’m an Eagle fan and I was cussing at the fact that they were booing McNabb/offense.

  63. Cowboy22 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:26 PM

    I think most of you who are down on Florio haven’t been reading his stuff long enough. I am a huge Cowboys fan and have been on his site for 5 or 6 years now and have never felt he is a Cowboys hater. He is definitely an equal opportunity hater and will talk bad about anyone who deserves it. All you other Cowboys fans can’t honestly say you are not at least a little skeptical about this team at this point. At the same time, all you Philly fans downing Andy Reid need to be thankful for what you have. Cowboys fans would gladly have had him for the last 15 years. He made a mistake in the heat of the moment but that is not what cost him the game. It was the 2 challenges that, in hindsite, we way too close to think the refs could overturn the call on the field.

  64. gnop05 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:26 PM

    “Booing your QB in the first quarter of a 7 point game O.K. thats loyality????? Dont confuse passion and culture with ignorance!”
    Pretty sure that’s only 68,000 fans out of hundreds of thousands of fans.
    Let’s put this whole “stereotyping” in perspective: Anyone who has “death” in their name is dark and has murdering tendencies.
    I can’t stand people talking smack about other teams’ fans and generalizing them. I’m an Eagle fan and I was cussing at the fact that they were booing McNabb/offense.

  65. Cowboy22 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:43 PM

    Ocelot138:
    Put down the crack pipe. “The eagles had way more of that go against them?” Did you not see the pass interference on Roy Williams in the end zone just before half? They show the replay about 5 times. Alan Ball and Keith Brooking get called for illegal contact just for looking at the Eagles receivers. This was the Eagles game to win and bad coaching lost it for them. Reed outcoaches the Cowboys 9 out of 10 games and he blew it once. Oh well, get over it.

  66. Cowboy22 says: Nov 9, 2009 3:46 PM

    FrankBurns:
    Demarcus Ware didn;t show up? Did you happen to see Maclin get wide open in the first quarter? McNabb saw him and it would have been an easy TD, too bad Ware sacked him before he could get rid of the ball. Watch much football?

  67. Hooby says: Nov 9, 2009 3:46 PM

    lets not bring the city into it lets just be civil and insult each others teams only, okay?
    yes, bad calls go both ways, but its the situation that deliniates it. its one thing to miss a penalty in the full swing of a game. asante samuel and roy williams were what 20 yards downfield with a possibly questionable call. these replay guys had about 5 minutes to look over a play in slow motion, HD replay. theres no way to miss a play like that and they did. it was clearly a first down, but they didnt give it to him. sure the other missed calls might have affected the outcome, but this one was absolutely without a doubt a game changer and it was also without a doubt a bad call.
    floodgates: open. cowboys fans, make your rebuttal

  68. cowboys suck says: Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM

    I have never been to Philly actually, I live in Texas. And yes, Dallas is a crap hole.

  69. kravon says: Nov 9, 2009 4:14 PM

    Cowboy fans tomorrow is day 4700 since your team won a playoff game.
    How do you plan to celebrate???
    I know what I will be doing. Eating a giant plate of slow cooked meat – I think they call it barbecue.
    Yummy.

  70. Hooby says: Nov 9, 2009 5:00 PM

    enough of these fights….heres the paradox of cowboys-eagles arguments, ill provide an example:
    eagles fan- your team sucks
    cowboys fan- um no yours does
    ef- okay whens the last time you won a playoff game
    cf- when we won the superbowl, whens the last time you won one
    ef- shut up! tony romos gay
    cf- mcnabb sucks
    it gets really f—ing old, and ive been in my share of these exact convos. point is, right now, both teams are about equal…fairly good qb, good running game, decent wrs, etc. both teams when completely healthy are about equal, minus the coaching staff. the eagles have their off days, as do the cowboys. it comes down to who plays better in key situations.
    and i think we all know who that is.

  71. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:10 PM

    “It came down to penalties and officiating, and the Eagles had WAY more of that go against them. Not blaming that on the loss”
    Yes you are. Somebody get ocelot138 some midol.
    http://profiles.yahoo.com/ocelot138

  72. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:14 PM

    “Let’s see the Cowboys beat the Eagles when it means something.”
    I agree. The only good team the Cowboys have beaten is the Falcons.

  73. jkorn1818 says: Nov 9, 2009 5:16 PM

    EaglesToRockDallas…AGAIN says:
    November 9, 2009 12:38 PM
    ___________________________________
    wow, you were giving stephen king’s IT a run for its money with that long post, i just want to say one thing, his name is not COLLINGSWORTH.

  74. delius1967 says: Nov 9, 2009 5:17 PM

    “Cowboy fans tomorrow is day 4700 since your team won a playoff game. ”
    And it’s day 470,000 since your team won a Super Bowl. What’s your point? Playoff victories are important, but Super Bowls somehow aren’t? Anyeone can quote statistics to support themselves. For instance, guess what, the Cowboys have a better record over the last five seasons.
    “asante samuel and roy williams were what 20 yards downfield with a possibly questionable call. ”
    Nice try at pretending to be unbiased. There was no question about it — Samuel grabbed his arm and pulled it down. It couldn’t have been clearer.

  75. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:19 PM

    “Playing devil’s advocate here.. The above statement is true, but kind of contradicts the winning team, as in: Did they really do enough to win?”
    Scoreboard says they did.

  76. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:20 PM

    “At the same time, all you Philly fans downing Andy Reid need to be thankful for what you have. Cowboys fans would gladly have had him for the last 15 years.”
    Uhhhh speak for yourself.

  77. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:41 PM

    “And it’s day 470,000 since your team won a Super Bowl.”
    They’ve never won the Super Bowl! Last time they won a championship it was a 12 team league.

  78. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:43 PM

    “it gets really f—ing old, and ive been in my share of these exact convos. point is, right now, both teams are about equal”
    I disagree. The Eagirls still haven’t beaten a good team… newsflash: the Giants are not a good team.

  79. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:44 PM

    “I know what I will be doing. Eating a giant plate of slow cooked meat – I think they call it barbecue. ”
    It’s called “crow”.

  80. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 5:46 PM

    “floodgates: open. cowboys fans, make your rebuttal”
    The rebuttal is that you can’t see where his left elbow is on replay and you have to have conclusive evidence to overturn a call like that.

  81. bezee23 says: Nov 9, 2009 5:53 PM

    delius1967 says:
    November 9, 2009 5:17 PM
    “Cowboy fans tomorrow is day 4700 since your team won a playoff game. ”
    And it’s day 470,000 since your team won a Super Bowl.”
    Uhhh its day
    1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
    since your team won a superbowl. Oh wait, they dont have one LOL! They won three champion ships right after World War II lol and they actually try to count these!
    Yall SUCK. Take the loss like men and quit making stupid excuses on spot fouls. You had a chance to to stay in the game but your stupid coach had no timeouts. You didnt play well enough to win and we came up there and took the division by force. Stop hopping on and off your team’s bandwagon and stay faithful. You guys are a disgrace to the league and what it means to be a fan.
    TO ALL COWBOY FANS: Guys let put this one behind us. Do not waste another second of your time with the scum of the league and their pitiful excuses.
    It was a good win, and we needed it now its over. Lets pack our bags and head to Green Bay. Leave the losing to losers.
    And let us all anticipate how Florio will try to overlook us in the rankings but thats ok. It feels good to be underdogs for a change. With all due respect the Saints are still the class of the NFC and thats fine with me.
    “Some people say I’m crazy as a snake”

  82. bezee23 says: Nov 9, 2009 5:55 PM

    The rebuttal is that he didnt go ANWHERE on that supposed QB sneak.
    And Collinsworth is right, its whever he was WHEN THE WHISTLE BLOWS. The play is dead when the whistle blows so tell him he may want to try to actually fall forward for a change.
    And tell your coach not to waste timeouts on futile spots. Make plays, not challenges.
    “Some people say I’m crazy as a snake”

  83. Hooby says: Nov 9, 2009 6:16 PM

    guys remember how we were in the nfc championship last year yeah that was fun, how far did the cowboys make it? 44-6? yeah i remember that too.
    and voxveritas, if the giants arent a good team, how is it the cowboys lost to them…that would suggest eagles are better than the giants, giants are better than the cowboys. eagles>giants>cowboys, therefore eagles>cowboys. thats what voxveritas says, not me. talk to him if you got a problem.

  84. McBleezy says: Nov 9, 2009 6:46 PM

    Man, I love sour Fagle fans…lame ass excuses and STILL bring up 44-6.
    Fagles got outcoached. Dallas was more physical in the trenches and made THE big play…in YOUR house.
    DeSean who? Fly Fagles, fly!

  85. delius1967 says: Nov 9, 2009 6:59 PM

    “if the giants arent a good team, how is it the cowboys lost to them”
    Same way the Eagles lost to the Raiders; playing badly. It happens to all teams. You can’t make daisy-chains of victories to decide who is the better team.
    “guys remember how we were in the nfc championship last year yeah that was fun, how far did the cowboys make it?”
    Remember how before yesterday the Eagles fans were accusing Cowboy fans of living in the past? Yeah, that was fun.

  86. kravon says: Nov 9, 2009 7:19 PM

    “And it’s day 470,000 since your team won a Super Bowl. What’s your point? Playoff victories are important, but Super Bowls somehow aren’t? Anyeone can quote statistics to support themselves. For instance, guess what, the Cowboys have a better record over the last five seasons.”
    Hey Jack –
    I am a fan of a team from Pennsylvania, and it aint the Eagles. Figure that one out Sunshine, and then remind me how many days its been since that team won a playoff game.

  87. KOREATOWNG11 says: Nov 9, 2009 7:23 PM

    Eagles 9
    Raiders 13
    I rest my case.

  88. VoxVeritas says: Nov 9, 2009 7:40 PM

    “and voxveritas, if the giants arent a good team, how is it the cowboys lost to them…”
    That was their “Raider moment”. Only they’re better than the Raiders.
    “guys remember how we were in the nfc championship last year yeah that was fun”
    Yeah remember when the Cowboys won five Super Bowls? That was fun, too. If you want to talk about the past, make sure you have one that’s worth talking about, first.
    20-16. In Philly.
    Tony Romo – undrafted
    Donovan McNabb – second overall draft pick
    Marion Barber – 4th round draft pick
    Lesean McCoy – 2nd round draft pick
    Miles Austin – undrafted
    Jeremy Maclin – 1st round draft pick
    Patrick Crayton – 7th round draft pick
    Desean Jackson – 2nd round draft pick
    Jay Ratliff – 7th round draft pick
    Broderick Bunkley – 1st round draft pick

  89. Hooby says: Nov 9, 2009 8:54 PM

    thank you vox for researching the picks for me…who gives a —- (censored for florios purposes) where they got picked
    5 superbowls is the past. 44-6 was the last game of the past season. i wouldnt call that history yet. even if it is, it only proves that the cowboys (of now) cant get it done. they had all the pieces fall into place for them and all they had to do was beat the eagles. we all know how that ended.

  90. Hooby says: Nov 9, 2009 10:46 PM

    and might i point out that just because a team A beats team B doesnt definitively say that theyre better. as in, last year week 3, the eagles went to pittsburgh and toppled the future champion steelers…were the eagles better than the steelers? prob not, but they played better. just because the cowboys beat the eagles this week, doesnt mean theyre better. it means they played better. and really it wasnt hard to outplay the eagles that night.

  91. brewcrewe says: Nov 9, 2009 11:13 PM

    @Hooby
    When team A beats team B and team A has a better record, better offense and better defense and special teams, I think most people would say they are a better team. Like Parcells once said”you are what your record says you are.”

  92. VoxVeritas says: Nov 10, 2009 1:16 PM

    “5 superbowls is the past. 44-6 was the last game of the past season.”
    Which I guess is not in “the past” as far as you’re concerned.
    “i wouldnt call that history yet.”
    Of course you wouldn’t. You’re an Eagirls fan? And what do you guys continue to prove?
    That you’re the dumbest animals on the planet.
    “even if it is, it only proves that the cowboys (of now) cant get it done.”
    They got it done Sunday night. In front of the world. 20-16. Suck it.
    “just because the cowboys beat the eagles this week, doesnt mean theyre better. it means they played better.”
    Oh, but 44-6 was different? You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

  93. Hooby says: Nov 10, 2009 11:17 PM

    no you dumbf— (for florio again) you needed a win to get in the playoffs. and you didnt. because the cowboys are not going to win a playoff game for the next decade or so.
    this win youre boasting and ranting about really means nothing. it puts you on top of the nfc east going into week 10. if the eagles win and the cowboys lose this week were right back to square 1…so really it kind of almost puts you in position to make an attempt at breaking away from the pack (not going to happen IMHO)

  94. brewcrewe says: Nov 11, 2009 1:18 PM

    @Hooby
    Actually you dumb F***, it would still put them a 1/2 game behind the Cowboys.And although im sure you are either psychic or an expert on football, I will choose not to believe in your theory that the Cowboys will not win a playoff game for the next 10 years. Do you really believe the garbage you sh*t from your c*ck holster or are you just a man so obsessed with the Cowboys looking bad you are willing to make yourself look like a moron.

  95. Hooby says: Nov 11, 2009 2:52 PM

    if the cowboys lose (6-2) and the eagles win (5-3) makes us tied. nice try. i have no idea if the cowboys will win a playoff game for the next 10 years, its a bold prediction, but whoda thunk that theyd go for 14 years after winning that superbowl in 1996…all im sayin is that if the past decade is any indicator they arent winning one for a while.
    and i know your rebuttal will be “if the past 45 years are any indicator the eagles will never win a superbowl.” no, theres only one superbowl a year, it doesnt really translate.
    PS i have no idea what kind of a holster youre talking about

  96. brewcrewe says: Nov 11, 2009 6:46 PM

    @Hooby
    Cock Holster, and I think you do know. If the Cowboys lose this week and the Eagles win they would have the same record. The Cowboys would have the head to head and therefore have a 1/2 game lead.
    You and the other Eagle fans always say we Cowboy fans dwell in the past, but by saying the Cowboys struggles with winning playoff games the last 13 years equate to them struggling in the future, you are living in the past.
    The truth is that the Cowboys, Giants, and Redskins have enjoyed success at the highest level of the game, while as an Eagle fan you only have first hand knowledge of 2nd or 3rd place. Although it has sucked to live with alot of defeat as of recent, I have fond memories of many playoff games and Super Bowl victories to share with my son, while your son will only hear of the time the Eagles almost won, but blew it in the end.

  97. Hooby says: Nov 11, 2009 10:20 PM

    damn it, florio! FIX THE LOGIN!
    so yeah i had a really nicely written argument here, but now its gone. went something like this.
    maybe you do have fond memories, sure, thats great, youre probly like 30 or 40 years old…im 17. yes, youve been arguing with a 17 year old on pft. so my memories go back about 5 years. so when i say the cowboys havnt done anything, i mean recently (aka past 5 years-ish). the only nfc east team that can really truly brag about anything (past 5 years-ish) are the giants with a superbowl and the eagles with a perennial superbowl threat. sounds like nothing, yes.
    point: recently (past 5 years-ish) if you say the eagles have done nothing, then the cowboys have done less.
    and then i said “where are you keeping your c–k (censored for florio) that it needs a holster?”

  98. brewcrewe says: Nov 12, 2009 10:06 AM

    @Hooby
    LOL…17 huh.
    When i was 17, I was out chasing tail and even though the internet was very young and did not have places like this for news and fan comments, I still would not have spent alot of time chatting. But as you get older, you get married and get job that lets you take the time to read a type. I look back at my life and realize I did alot of things that 17 year old kids now don’t do. I have been alot of places seen alot of things. I appeal to you to go out and enjoy your life and not waste it on the computer like so many of your peers are doing now. You are young, and missing out on the social learning that many younger people confuse for facebook and internet chat rooms. There is nothing wrong with being a fan, or even an Eagles fan at that, but please go out and have fun, this is only fun for old people like me.
    P.S. a c*ck holster is a mouth.

  99. Hooby says: Nov 12, 2009 7:23 PM

    (i know what kind of holster youre talking about, i was using sarcasm to anger that guy)
    its not like im sitting 24/7 with my laptop waiting for a reply…i go places in between my posts
    nonetheless thanks…[play "Why cant we be friends" by War]

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