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Gilbert Brown rips Mike McCarthy

Former Packers defensive tackle Gilbert Brown says the team’s loss to the Buccaneers on Sunday is the strongest sign to date that it’s time for a new coach in Green Bay.

Speaking on WSSP in Milwaukee, Brown ripped Packers coach Mike McCarthy for the coaching job he’s done this season.

It is the head coach’s fault,” Brown said, per SportsRadioInterviews.com. “Everything that goes on starts with the big man upfront.”

When it was pointed out to Brown that the Packers have personnel issues, which would seem to suggest that General Manager Ted Thompson is the problem, Brown said it’s still McCarthy’s job to find a way to win with the players he has.

“It doesn’t matter,” Brown said. “It doesn’t matter with the talent and what you put on the field if you keep making mistakes week in and week out and you don’t correct it and the same thing keeps going on.”

Brown, who played with Brett Favre in Green Bay from 1993 to 2003, said the Packers’ two losses to Favre and the Vikings doomed the whole season to failure.

“The Vikings have stole our swagger, period,” Brown said. “Everybody on that team stole our swagger. Took our quarterback. Took our heart on Lambeau Field. Took our heart in front of millions of fans on TV. Then you go out and lose to an 0-7 team. The debacle started when they played the Vikings right there. The two Vikings games crushed the season.”

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  1. Ross'sSweetMinus says: Nov 10, 2009 4:04 PM

    Told like it is? Man we miss this guy!

  2. D.R.Universal says: Nov 10, 2009 4:09 PM

    Tell Gilbert to shut his fat ass up! Aint been relevant since 96 superbowl…
    Isnt there a hot dog eating contest he should be at?

  3. Rev. Dr. HollywoodWags says: Nov 10, 2009 4:09 PM

    Heard him on the radio, he sounded completely stupid.
    Like he had pork and sausage gravy in his big huge head.

  4. mooremi9 says: Nov 10, 2009 4:13 PM

    “The Vikings have stole our swagger, period,” Brown said. “Everybody on that team stole our swagger. Took our quarterback. Took our heart on Lambeau Field. Took our heart in front of millions of fans on TV. Then you go out and lose to an 0-7 team. The debacle started when they played the Vikings right there. The two Vikings games crushed the season.”
    Kansas must be so proud of its alumni.
    I guess its better then saying “you know” 37,000 times like Jason Campbell does for every interview. NO JASON HE DOESN’T KNOW THATS WHY HE IS ASKING YOU THE QUESTION!!!!

  5. Chickenfoot says: Nov 10, 2009 4:16 PM

    I would be anxious to hear what Supersuckers hast to say about this, being that Gilbert is a coach and was a player……… But alas, he and his woman are having their baby today…congrats my friend, hope all went well!!

  6. paranoidandroid says: Nov 10, 2009 4:19 PM

    I’m on board, bye bye McCarthy. You thought you could win with an unproven QB and now look at you….losing to Minn twice and then the Orangesicle Bucs. Shame on you! Ted will hopefully be joining you soon!

  7. cheeseweasel says: Nov 10, 2009 4:22 PM

    Oh, Lord. Oh,Lord. That may be the best thing I’ve read all year. Sniff….*ack* just breathe, cheeseweasel, no need to cry… buh, buh, BAAAA HAAAA HAAAA!!! Just kiddin Bobs Nelson!!! Eat it Jimmy Smiff!!! The Packers won the preseason playoffs and crapped the bed when it counted. Erin Roggers is a stat geeks wet dream and more and more looking like a losing QB that cant count to 4 before getting rid of the ball. You all need 10 years of rebuilding before this thing gets turned around. Hilarious… Glorious.

  8. JimmySmith says: Nov 10, 2009 4:23 PM

    Gilbert Brown has it exactly right. Nobody is saying the talent level of the Packers is not wanting in some areas but how is it that the Packers can cut players deemed not good enough for one of the final 53 roster spots and they end up on another NFL team (Meredith in Buffalo, Sutton in Carolina) contributing in positions where the Packers are having problems?
    That’s not to say that Ted Thompson should be given a free pass. As far I am concerned, those two are a package deal and when Murphy steps up to deal with this mess, he should hand out the two pink slips at the same time.

  9. footballrulz says: Nov 10, 2009 4:23 PM

    Losing to the Vikes didn’t steal our swagger. Hell, we lost to a team that’s better then we are.
    Now losing to the Bucs, that’s a swagger stealer right there.
    7-9 season at best. AT BEST.
    You listening MM?
    You listening TT?
    You listening Barbre, Harrel, Raji, Hawk, Poppinga, …….

  10. TheBaySay says: Nov 10, 2009 4:26 PM

    He is correct. Does Tampa Bay have superior talent? No, but their coaching staff found a way to largely shut down the Packers’ passing game, and McCarthy wouldn’t stick with the running attack which was working, nor would he go to shorter slants. His ability to adjust to what the opponent is doing is virtually non-existant. And McCarthy had such a crush on the 3-4 that he hired a guy who only coaches that defense, thereby throwing away many of the team’s strengths on defense. Thompson deserves some blame. McCarthy deserves a whole lot more.

  11. purpleman527 says: Nov 10, 2009 4:33 PM

    The 3 replies thus far are from cheesehead idiots. The fans at lambo booed Favre. Idiots. The guy brought the pack back to prominence and they boo him. Ted and Mike said no to Favre.
    Brown is wrong in saying that the vikings stole Favre. Ted & Mike kicked Favre’s ass out of GB.
    Brown is right when he says McCarty is a bad coach.

  12. The Hormel Row of Fame says: Nov 10, 2009 4:34 PM

    In related news, when asked last week what Gilbert would do if hewere given a chance to sack Favre, he said he would get in there and fart on him. Hand to God truth, it was the funniest thing I have heard in a long time. Look it up.
    I do miss the BK Gilbert burger, though… it was pretty good.

  13. leatherneck says: Nov 10, 2009 4:37 PM

    When the Vikings released Gilbert Brown after drafting him, that was dumb. He would have been a great Viking.

  14. mgloudem says: Nov 10, 2009 4:39 PM

    I think Gilbert is frustrated just like all Packer fans, and his comments are on course with most of ours. These stupid freakin penalties, along with awful special teams, are killing us. Is it all McCarthy’s fault? I doubt it, but it starts with him.
    To get swept by our division rivals with our old, beloved quarterback and then to lose to the 0-7 bucs is embarassing. I have given Mcarthy and Thompson the benefit of the doubt most of the way, but I am getting sick of the stupidity on the field.

  15. Legend of Josh says: Nov 10, 2009 4:40 PM

    Gilbert Brown, GTFO already. Any given team can win any given game on any given Sunday. That’s just the aura of the National Football League.
    I’ll agree, the Packers have been disappointing thus far this year, but all things considered right now Minnesota is poised to rule the NFC North, and not the typical Packers or Bears.
    The NFL fluctuates… that’s why the league is so great and exciting compared to other sports. Steelers and Packers fans are the worst in football! You can’t always win year-in year-out! STFU already!

  16. imaginesuperbowlwin says: Nov 10, 2009 4:41 PM

    What swagger? Green Bay hasn’t had swagger for years. Eat some more burgers, fatso. And don’t forget to super-size it.

  17. Seeryer says: Nov 10, 2009 4:46 PM

    The truth hurts. Packers’ record since Favre left? 10 wins and 14 losses. Favre’s record since leaving the Packers? 16 wins and 8 losses. Favre and Green Bay’s record the last time they played a season together? 12-4. Congrats Ted and Mike. Guess what? Favre owns you two and the state of Wisconsin. Can he claim ya’ll on his ’09 Tax returns?

  18. jeide27 says: Nov 10, 2009 4:57 PM

    Packer turmoil. I love the white weasel Teddy Thompson and Mike M… As a Viking Fan nothing could be better, besides giving us Hall of Fame QB’s,,, ohh they already did that…..Nice

  19. GBP says: Nov 10, 2009 5:00 PM

    Huge (I mean Huge) GB fan here, and I gotta say I agree with Glibert on this one. THe only thing I would add is that its time for Teddy boy to go too.
    Does anyone remember the Gilbert Burger at Burger King about 10 years ago? Man I could go for one of those right now.

  20. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 10, 2009 5:01 PM

    Go figure that I would happen to agree with the Grave Digger. When the same problems keep occurring week after week it’s all on McCarthy. The Packers are leading the League in all the wrong areas. Sacks and penalties up the wazzooo….
    You go Gil…give em Hell.

  21. sand0 says: Nov 10, 2009 5:06 PM

    “The two Vikings games crushed the season.”
    I like how this guy thinks. Packers were going to be fine until the Vikes stepped in and crushed them.

  22. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 10, 2009 5:15 PM

    Former Packer LeRoy Butler has some interesting things to say as well. But I guess he doesn’t know shizznit either being a former player and all.
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/69595447.html
    ‘Things need to be changed at the top. When you change players and change the defensive staff and for the second week in a row you’re giving up 38 points, now you have to reshuffle somewhere.’

  23. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 10, 2009 5:15 PM

    This is no different than Chmura ripping Favre last year, just a feeble attempt for former players to stay in the news and act like they’re somehow still relevant.
    That being said, the big man is right. By now, I’m sure everyone knows Ted Thompson couldn’t find talent if they sold it in cans.
    However, McCarthy, even if he doesn’t have the players to win, still should not be losing as badly as he has been. There is NO excuse for giving up 6 sacks and 38 points to an 0-7 team. I don’t need to recap all the ridiculous penalties either.
    McCarthy needs to be, and probably will be, fired after this season. I just hope Murphy realizes the blame is still primarily on the shoulders of the man who hired Big Mac as head coach (and kept three fullbacks, and matched an offer so he could keep Jarrett Bush, and cut every decent lineman just to replace them with crap, then bring the old ones back, and cut Tracy White and Jon Ryan and signed Derrick Frost and then wondered why the special teams had gone to hell, and signed Anthony Smith and Duke Preston just to cut them both and have the lack of depth at their respective positions seriously exposed, and drafted Justin Harrell at 16 and AJ Hawk at 5, and split the once-revered fan base clean in half, and gave a hated rival a real good shot at a Super Bowl, and drafted a solid QB in the first round but failed to give him a supporting cast, and who wasted nearly every other pick he’s had, and who refused to trade for or sign any decent big-name free agents that could have helped, and never learned the concept of leadership, and the list goes on).

  24. vikings rule says: Nov 10, 2009 5:16 PM

    damn Gay Bay is taking this whole favre to the Vikings way too hard….AND I LOVE IT!!!

  25. Fan of Football says: Nov 10, 2009 5:18 PM

    I agree with GB, other then I think TT owns even more responsibility for this debacle then MM does.

  26. MoPackerFan says: Nov 10, 2009 5:19 PM

    I guess I fail to see why you guys are giving ol’ Gilbert Brown a hard time. He is dead on, the Green Bay Packers came into this season with so much hype that they were going to clinch the division and make a SB run.
    I admit I bought into the hype as well, but once the Vike-queens got done curb stomping our o-line and Brett is on pace to have his best statistical season ever; it’s pretty fair to say morale is at an all time low and the team indeed has had it’s “heart ripped” out by a Vike-queens team that has a motivated Brett Favre at the helm.

  27. doe22us says: Nov 10, 2009 5:24 PM

    GB, Please STFU

  28. Rocky70 says: Nov 10, 2009 5:25 PM

    Gilbert was always better at talking when his mouth was full…….. You couldn’t understand a word……… He also had the best seat in the house his last 3 years……… standing on the sidelines nursing ‘another’ injury. …….

  29. moswesley says: Nov 10, 2009 5:39 PM

    The Packers apologists can keep insulting Brown, and I didn’t hear audio of the comments, but he’s right.
    As Florio pointed out, the Packers are four games back in the division. After losing to an 0-7 team with a rookie QB making his first start, the season is effectively over for the Packers. They have to win out and get a lot of help.
    I give Aaron Rodgers credit, because he has taken a beating this season, and a 40 year old Favre would probably not have survived some of those shots.
    The 3-4 defense hasn’t worked out, there were too many injuries to the o-line, and Ryan Grant is horrible.

  30. csaber2007 says: Nov 10, 2009 5:59 PM

    And this is news how again?

  31. iusedtobeteddybayer says: Nov 10, 2009 6:22 PM

    Uh-huh and completely running out of gas in the Denver/Green Bay Super Bowl like you did would be Mike Holmgren’s fault? Waaaaaaaaaay too convenient, Gilly.
    Now STF up, go have your 20-meals-is-really-just-a-meal-for-me and stay irrelevant. The boys in GB don’t need you talking about “season over”.
    Where is Eugene Robinson when you need real irrelevance?

  32. Fire Ted says: Nov 10, 2009 6:26 PM

    I like how Vikings fans think it’s wrong for the fans at Lambeau (you know, an actual football stadium) to have booed Favre. Last I checked, you don’t cheer for the opposing team, especially when he now plays for a bitter rival. Furthermore, Favre ripped Green Bay plenty so he deserved the boos just like any of the other purple douchebags do….Vikings fans might have something to cheer about this season, but one thing remains constant. They can’t sell out home playoff games, they don’t have a stadium and never will….while Favre might finally deliver something they have never won (the Lombardi Trophy) he is more likely to crash and burn just like he has in playoff games going back to the Steve Young to Terrell Owens TD in 1999…here’s a few memories for you to chew on.
    2008…home loss to Giants in NFC title game…Favre threw lame duck pick in OT, Giants march down and score to win.
    2005…the Randy Moss moon game…Favre throws four picks and Green Bay gets rolled at HOME by MN 31-17.
    2004…Philadelphia..not really Favre’s fault they lost, but he didn’t help them win…an 82.4 qb rating and the infamous fourth and 26 play.
    2003…First ever playoff loss at Lambeau Field…to Atlanta…2 its and a 54 qb rating…this was the start of the playoff downfall of Brett Favre in earnest.
    2002…a week after winning the Packers’ first playoff game after missing the post season for three seasons, Favre throws SIX ints against the Rams.
    1999…the Young to Owens TD at the end of the game I referred to earlier.
    Now, before the parade of bandwagon jumping Vikings fans talks about how talented this team is compared to those Green Bay teams, save it. Minnesota has beaten one team this season with a winning record..two .500 teams (Packers and Ravens), plus the Browns, Lions, Rams, and 49ers. Now, go ahead and say how much the Packers suck…so your team twice beat a team that sucks. How nice for you…what happened when you played a playoff team? Oh, yeah…the refs hosed you, right. Enjoy it while you can Vikings fans. Favre has not played well for a full postseason since the 97 season…twelve years ago. He will not suddenly become superman simply because he plays for Minnesota. His suggestion that his current Vikings team is the most talented he ever played for is something he has a long record of saying, but made more laughable by the fact that no Vikings team has ever done what the 96 Packers did…and I don’t just mean win the Super Bowl, but then again, Minnesota fans have never even sniffed that.

  33. packers4life says: Nov 10, 2009 6:28 PM

    “The 3-4 defense hasn’t worked out, there were too many injuries to the o-line, and Ryan Grant is horrible.”
    Ok, why is everyone saying the new 3-4 defense is not ‘working out’? because the Packers have only allowed 777 total rushing yards which is far better then last season, they have 12 takeaways and are ranked in the top 5 in 3rd down defense only allowing 36 3rd down conversions on 105 attempts which is a low 34%.
    “As Florio pointed out, the Packers are four games back in the division. After losing to an 0-7 team with a rookie QB making his first start, the season is effectively over for the Packers. They have to win out and get a lot of help.”
    The Broncos had a three game lead over their division last year and looked what happened. That proves that it is not over until it’s over, no matter how far ahead a team is in their division.
    “Brett is on pace to have his best statistical season ever;”
    He won’t even come close to the 39 touchdown passes he threw in 1996.

  34. slipkid says: Nov 10, 2009 6:49 PM

    face it folks, the buffet was closed down so gilbert the denver-td-allower had time to talk.
    i picked minnehaha to cover both times because they were the better team. blame mc and t2 for the o-line. that’s it. rodgers had to play and is playing fine for the most part. it isnt his fault kampman isnt playing every down. capers is a fool.
    lets see the old man in december.
    i see the pack at 10-6 and the vikes at 12-4.

  35. Bigbluefan says: Nov 10, 2009 6:49 PM

    You lost your stager two years ago in the NFC championship game when your over the hill QB had a bad game and gave the Giants that game

  36. purpleguy says: Nov 10, 2009 6:55 PM

    I’m suprised Gilbert is still around after all those “Gilbert burgers” — was the interview from a cardiac intensive care department or a Jenny Craig location?

  37. TheJim says: Nov 10, 2009 7:05 PM

    Wow!!–33 comments and and not a single one starts with “as a Packer Stockholder…” IMPRESSIVE

  38. Florio's Biatch says: Nov 10, 2009 7:06 PM

    Here’s how this plays out on history:
    Favre retires, Unretires.
    Fat Coach and White Head GM tell him to go Fu*k himself.
    Favre plays for their most hated rival and slays the idiots who booted him.
    That’s where the story ends. Doesn’t matter what the Vikes do from here on.
    Favre’s 4 TD performance at Lambeau killed us. That was the nail in the coffin. Confidence gone.
    Now everyon looks at MM and TT and sees a couple of lame duck idiots. The players know they’re bums. It’s over for these guys.
    Cherry on top is a Super Bowl which would just be poetic justice, regardless of who’s at fault.
    History will favor the Champion, the General, the Strong.
    History will deify Favre and make TT and MM look like the biggest idiots in sports history. It’s just how it will play out.

  39. hk94 says: Nov 10, 2009 7:09 PM

    I don’t know why the Vikings fans on this site feel the need to insert themselves into every single Packers story that is posted. You’d think being 7-1 and having one of their most promising seasons ever would be enough to talk about without looking to start bickering with fans of a team that has no chance of facing the Vikings again this season. Yeah, your team is better. Congrats. The NFL is built on parity, and this is your year. Now stop acting like dickheads and embarassing your fans that have acted classy this season.
    Gilbert Brown is right, and I think it’s pretty nice to hear some of these players speak out against the org. Some former players really wear the homer glasses when talking about their former teams, but it’s cool that Gilbert is saying what we’re all thinking. Why? Because Gilbert’s voice is actually heard when ours aren’t. Wether or not the powers that be listen is a different story.

  40. CutlerISaPussy says: Nov 10, 2009 7:19 PM

    FireTed…Do you think anyone actually reads your long ramblings (I didn’t)? Think of this as more twitter style. Try to keep it to 140 characters (or so).

  41. Hovenaut says: Nov 10, 2009 7:24 PM

    I look for the positive here. Big Gil may have burned a couple of calories on the rant. Shout ’til you’re slender, big un.

  42. stetai says: Nov 10, 2009 7:26 PM

    THe packer problems are so clearly the fault of both Ted and Mike. Ted has assembled a crew of hit and miss. Mike can’t coach and his team is full of penalties and no one respects him.
    Both of them pass teh blame and can’t decide the identity of the team, and change the entire roster which doesn’t fit with the personnel (Hawk/Kampman), only one year removed from being 13-3 and a top defense.
    They are both equally to blame, get rid of them both packers!

  43. VoxVeritas says: Nov 10, 2009 7:28 PM

    Don’t cry JimmySmith, you’ll always have “44-6″.

  44. Beer Cheese Soup says: Nov 10, 2009 7:29 PM

    packers4life says:
    Ok, why is everyone saying the new 3-4 defense is not ‘working out’?
    ____________________________________
    Probably because it isn’t. Quote stats all you want, they’re still irrelevant. This is a team sport, the only real statistic that matters is wins. I personally haven’t seen a whole lot of those. Woo hoo, they can stop the run. Gilbert-sized bunch of good that does when a QB making his NFL debut can drive down the field and score at will.
    I especially loved the shot of Harris directly calling out said rookie QB after breaking up a pass, just to get thrown at and beaten on the very next play. What an overhyped loser. McCarthy needs to tell him not to talk again until they win a few or he finally plays a penalty-free game. Either that or bench him. Tramon has a lot of upside, and he at least can keep his mouth shut.
    Bottom line, Gilbert and Leroy both make some very astute (albeit obvious) observations. Maybe one of them can be our new GM. I honestly don’t think anyone save Millen and maybe Carl Peterson could be any worse than what we have now.
    Judging by his comments yesterday, I feel unless we somehow win out and make a run now, Murphy is ready to can both Ted and Mac after the year is over.
    I really hate losing like we have been, but at least it should mean no more Ted after this season, and a lot less Bob Nelson in the meantime. You gotta take the good with the bad sometimes…

  45. Fire Ted says: Nov 10, 2009 7:53 PM

    Cutler…you ARE a pussy.

  46. bigdogsolec says: Nov 10, 2009 8:37 PM

    So basicaly “WE TORE THE HEART OUT OF THE PACKERS ” GOOD
    BUT we didn’t take there QB, THEY GAVE UP THERE QB

  47. seaner44 says: Nov 10, 2009 8:38 PM

    SNAP….

  48. EasyDrinkingBuschLight says: Nov 10, 2009 8:56 PM

    Muahahahaha. Suck it bitches!!
    Skol Vikes!

  49. Philtration says: Nov 10, 2009 9:22 PM

    Poor Packer fans.
    First the rampant inbreeding and now this.
    I guess that last straw will be the cancellation of the annual “Slow Dance With Your Sister Festival”.
    Stupid cheesedicks crack me up every time.

  50. JaredAllen69 says: Nov 10, 2009 10:11 PM

    TT and MM need to be given long term contract extensions. They are doing a great job in GB.

  51. GB3Pack4 says: Nov 10, 2009 11:19 PM

    test only

  52. zygizag says: Nov 10, 2009 11:32 PM

    How sweet it is. SKOL VIKINGS

  53. jonnyfootballhero says: Nov 10, 2009 11:41 PM

    what does “Skol Vikes!”, mean?

  54. jonnyfootballhero says: Nov 10, 2009 11:47 PM

    what does “Skol Vikes!”, mean?

  55. CutlerISaPussy says: Nov 11, 2009 12:01 AM

    Hey FireTed! Good work there keeping it short and good job on picking up my advice so quickly. Nice.
    By the way, I agree. Cutler is a pussy. I will say it with you. Cutler, you ARE a pussy!!!

  56. packers4life says: Nov 11, 2009 1:51 AM

    “Tramon has a lot of upside, and he at least can keep his mouth shut.”
    Dude, I agree with you on the Al Harris jabbing and then getting beaten on the very next play but bench him for Tramon Williams?? Psh. In my opinion, Williams is overrated. He gets burned far too much and will not be that much better then Harris is right now.

  57. packers4life says: Nov 11, 2009 4:30 AM

    “I guess that last straw will be the cancellation of the annual “Slow Dance With Your Sister Festival”.
    Stupid cheesedicks crack me up every time.”
    Slow Dance With Your Sister Festival?? Cheesedicks? Was that suppose to be trash-talk? because I didn’t catch any in that stupid post.
    Go read a book on intelligence because it is clear that you lack a ton of it just looking at that post.

  58. lolcats says: Nov 11, 2009 8:26 AM

    Fire McCarthy? How about the linemen? The Packers would be a lot better off with Rodgers not getting sacked 6 times a game than to get a new coach in.

  59. LarryDavid says: Nov 11, 2009 10:59 AM

    jonnyfootballhero,
    “Skol” comes from the word “skål” (pronounced like Skoal tobacco) in the Scandinavian languages, meaning “cheers”. Since there is no “å” in the English alphabet, people use “skol” or “skal”. “Skol Vikings!” literally means “Cheers Vikings!”.

  60. Supersuckers says: Nov 11, 2009 11:37 AM

    Holmgren first three years (27 wins) 2 playoff appearances. Furthest his teams went was to a divisional round
    McCarthy first three years (26 wins) 1 playoff appearance. Furthest his teams went is overtime of NFC Championship game.
    Year four under Holmgrem 5-3 after 8 games THEN lost game nine to go to 5-4 and STILL ended up in the NFC title game losing a close one at Dallas. This was all with the your magical favre at the helm. Here is another nugget. Yancey Thigpen dropped a gimmie pass with no one around him with 9 seconds left (yeah you remember) that gave Green bay the division that year. If green Bay can muster up a win at home agains Dallas that put McCarthy at 5-4 in year four of his regime.
    I’m not saying McCarthy isn’t on the hot seat because I think he is. What I am trying to do is show you a comparison of what you all seem to go to as your argument. Wolf and Holmgren and favre. As you can see. The wins and losses are about equal. Holmgren had one more playoff appearance but McCarthy got them farther.
    Everyone pushing the panic button after week 8 is being ridiculous. Luckily Murphy has come out and put a little pressure on the staff with his statements. but he has also said he’s been around the NFL long enough to know what can happen. Thankfully he is in charge and not one of you knee jerkers.
    I don’t know about everyone else but back in the aformetioned Holmgren years there wasnt too many of these moron blogs but I do remember the FIRE WOLF cries right around this time in 1995. relax poeple and let the season play out. As you can see from above

  61. paranoidandroid says: Nov 11, 2009 11:55 AM

    Fire Ted says:
    November 10, 2009 6:26 PM
    I like how Vikings fans think it’s wrong for the fans at Lambeau (you know, an actual football stadium) to have booed Favre. Last I checked, you don’t cheer for the opposing team, especially when he now plays for a bitter rival. Furthermore, Favre ripped Green Bay plenty so he deserved the boos just like any of the other purple douchebags do….Vikings fans might have something to cheer about this season, but one thing remains constant. They can’t sell out home playoff games, they don’t have a stadium and never will….while Favre might finally deliver something they have never won (the Lombardi Trophy) he is more likely to crash and burn just like he has in playoff games going back to the Steve Young to Terrell Owens TD in 1999…here’s a few memories for you to chew on.

  62. Chickenfoot says: Nov 11, 2009 1:57 PM

    Super:
    That 95 team had an O-line, and decent ST.
    You can’t look to history and expect that just because it happened 14 years ago, it’s going to happen again.
    2 tottally different teams, with totally different mindsets.
    09 packers are the most undisciplined team I have seen in a long time.
    Holmgren is a much better coach than Mumbles by a long shot.
    By the way, you heard it hear 1st…both WC’s coming out of the East.
    Packers season went up in smoke last week-end.

  63. Supersuckers says: Nov 11, 2009 2:50 PM

    wasnt saying i expected history to repeat itself. Was comparing the two’s tenures and pointing out how almost identically both coaches performance had been up to this point in each of their careers.
    GB couldnt run the ball worth a damn in Holmgrens first three years.

  64. Florio's Biatch says: Nov 11, 2009 2:59 PM

    Supersuckers.
    So, according to you, TT and MM’s Packers are on the cusp of becoming a World Class Organization? Mmmmmmkay.
    Chickenfoot is 100% right.
    Numbers are for politicians and spinsters.
    Any idiot can see this team is a mess.
    Favre’s 4 TDs at Lambeau was the nail in the coffin.
    It’s not about Favre. It’s about a talented group of players who need a leader and don’t have one.
    It all started downhill when Holmgren left.
    Rhodes, Sherman, they didn’t have it. Neither have Head coached another game in the NFL since.
    McCarthy is the same. Lame Duck. He’s blaming the players. His system is perfect and his staff is filled with “expertise.” He’s lying to himself, and he’s just realized the job is a lot harder than it looks.
    MM is just another draft bust. We need an Elite Free Agent Coach (Cowher, Gruden, Shanahan, Holmgren, etc,) or a hell of a draft pick (McDaniels, Peyton, Tomlin).
    Dream on, Supersuckers.

  65. ErinRodgers says: Nov 11, 2009 3:04 PM

    Green Bay is 4-4 now……. but let us look into the future.
    Dallas- loss
    San Fran- loss
    @Detroit- Win……maybe(they’re better than Tampa)
    Baltimore-loss
    @Chicago-loss
    @Pittsburgh-loss
    Seattle-Win…maybe
    @Arizona-loss
    So you’re preseason Division winning, Superbowl contending Packers will end this season………
    6-10………
    Two seasons without Favre, two seasons 6-10……. I’m liking this.

  66. Chickenfoot says: Nov 11, 2009 3:46 PM

    Super: Outside of the difference in coaching( i dont ever recall Holmgren teaching blocking technique in week 8) acumen, Holmgern also had 1 of the best football minds in Ron Wolf drafting for him. Ron Wolf also brought in several key free agent aquisitions.
    Mumbles has TT drafting for him and TT outright refuses to consider free agents of any merit.
    We discussed before that Wolf said you have to hit on 55% of your draft picks(approximate). That is with bringing in FA’s with some starting talent.
    TT , if he isn’t bringing In FA starting talent, needs to hit on draft picks by 20-25% higher than stated 55%. That is virtually impossible.
    He’s not even hitting Wolf’s number!
    His arrogance in his “talent evaluation” is part of the undoing of this team. It must be trickiling down because Mumbles is pretty arrogant in the fact that he thinks he can fix this mess that they created.
    The 95 Packers team had several more things going for it than the current version.
    Superior Gm
    Superior Coaching–not just head coach either!
    Hall of fame caliber players
    God bless you for being a fan of your team, but you are being unrealistic in your asessment of the 09 Packers.
    That 13-3 record was an abberation -easy, easy schedule, every bounce went their way etc. It happens to teams from time to time.
    The OL is the biggest difference 95 Favre sacked 38 times, rodgers is 1 off that thru week 9!!!
    That falls squarely on the sunshine boys of TT and MM.

  67. Supersuckers says: Nov 11, 2009 4:02 PM

    Alot of these posts sound similar to packer talk radio shows in the mid nineties after a 3rd consecutive 9-7 season in 1994. My point was to wait until the season is over. Nothing can be done about it now. And whoever thinks that the Packers are going to buy out Thompson and McCarty for 18 million then go get Cowher for record money is out of their minds. That would probably (I dont have a crystal ball like you guys do) be a 40 million dollar signing when you consider what Cowher’s market value is and the buyouts of Thompson and McCarthy. Not happening!! I dont need a crystal ball to know that.

  68. zygi milf says: Nov 11, 2009 4:23 PM

    Supersuckers says:
    November 11, 2009 4:02 PM
    Alot of these posts sound similar to packer talk radio shows in the mid nineties after a 3rd consecutive 9-7 season in 1994. My point was to wait until the season is over. Nothing can be done about it now. And whoever thinks that the Packers are going to buy out Thompson and McCarty for 18 million then go get Cowher for record money is out of their minds. That would probably (I dont have a crystal ball like you guys do) be a 40 million dollar signing when you consider what Cowher’s market value is and the buyouts of Thompson and McCarthy. Not happening!! I dont need a crystal ball to know that.
    ***************
    Yes – the offseason – when the Pack will draft yet another linebacker and totally ignore the OL.
    If I was Favre, I wouldn’t have wanted to come back, either.
    It is a shame (and I am a Viking fan) that Favre didn’t spend his entire playing career (no one counts that first season in Atlanta) with the Pack. It’s obvious that he is not washed up. If they hadn’t wasted that pick on Rodgers, they could have drafted OL talent. They could have picked a QB in 09.
    Sitting on the bench obviously did not work well for Rodgers. Josh Freeman looked like the more poised QB last Sunday.

  69. Chickenfoot says: Nov 11, 2009 4:34 PM

    Yeah, you are right Super, and now you are stuck with a crap coach and an even crappier GM for the next 2 years at least.
    How you don’t understand the talent level isn’t there compared to the 95 team, I don’t know.
    This was a wasted 2 year span( so far) (may be 4-5) and you should be pissed off about it.
    You guys are stuck for awhile.
    ==================================
    Packers4life:
    What kind is that? The kind that is realistic?
    The best you can hope for out of that schedule is 4-4. You have 4 winnable games, and i can’t even say that for sure, if 1 game on the sked was a gimme, it should have been Tampa.
    I absofreakinlutely guarantee(sp?) the pack misses the playoffs.
    You people are WAAAAAAAAY overvaluing your teams talent and coaching levels.
    You have a lot of nerve calling someone out, you know that?
    Yours are some of the most idiotic posts I’ve had the sorry pleasure to read.
    You are an asshat extrodinaire.

  70. footballrulz says: Nov 11, 2009 4:46 PM

    So nice to come across a post by philtration, erin rodgers, easydrinkingbuschlight, bobnelson, fire ted, etc. I mean you just know they are so full of shit that you can just scroll right on by them. Saves so much time.
    Now Bob,or Fire Ted, I’m not talkng to you here, but the rest of you guys mentioned above, please try to make your posts a little longer so we can scroll a little further and get on with reading some posts from folks that actually know a little about football.
    Supersuckers–hope all went well with your new “sprout”. Great stats but I just can’t see it happening this time around. The new “regime” are just not putting the right guys in the right places, refusing to admit their mistakes and make adjustments, disregarding FA & drafting busts.
    Can’t see us beating Dallas or Balt or Pitts. After last week I’d say all the other games are toss ups.
    I just hope Aaron survives the year and something changes off season. I know Murphy said he’s waiting ’til season’s end but I at least hope he’s got his rolodex out.

  71. Supersuckers says: Nov 11, 2009 9:16 PM

    Hey thanks Rulz! From what they tell us she is perfect. Depending on where you live you may take that back in 20 years if you knew her parents. Anyway, I will leave you guys alone as I seem to be rthe only one not giving up and believing this team has more talent then the rest of you. No use arguing. We’ll know who is right at the end of the season. Even then what do we accomplish. Who was right…..LOL…

  72. Supersuckers says: Nov 11, 2009 9:48 PM

    Brett Favre said it best in his southern drawl when he was in the midst of a 3 game skid when everyone was calling for his and Holmgrens head (remember the “joined at the hip” comment?) Holmgren was ridiculed by people too and all turned out well. Not saying the same thing is going to happen here but stop going bananas. Favre used to say “The on thing thatll shutemallup is a win” Green Bay beats Dallas Sunday and you all will be singing a different tune breaking out your playoff scenarios. Dont deny it.

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