The sexual assault suit against Ben Roethlisberger was officially put on hold Tuesday pending an appeal seeking a change of venue by Roethlisberger and his co-defendants.The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that Washoe County Judge Brent Adams issued the stay on Monday. Almost two months back, a judge denied a motion to move from Washoe to Douglas County. In mid-October, Roethlisberger appeal that decision. His appeal is reportedly in its "early stages."
Roethlisberger is accused of sexually assaulting a Harrah's employee that PFT reported has since resigned from her position with the company.
Delay ... delay ... delay ... meanwhile the plaintiff now has no visible means of income ... and none will be soon forthcoming. Good move.
As Couch Lou has been known to say: "Somebody knows something, and I want to be with or where the Somebodies are!"
1). She resigned...I also can understand the pressure she was probably under.
2). She did not have to.
3). There are other jobs out there.
4). Hey cunn9305....How do you know she has "no visible means of support"? I gaurantee you she will get a pre-check form People, Enquier, etc... just to tell her story win or loose. Don't forget book rights, TV?movie rights.
Before you start playing your Violin, be sure to let everyone know it's a Stradivarius!
They will delay it so that the fat statue protected by an underrated O-Line and the best D in foorbtall can stay "elite"
# Sportnman says: November 10, 2009 2:36 PM
As Couch Lou has been known to say: "Somebody knows something, and I want to be with or where the Somebodies are!"
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Who the hell is Couch Lou?
if roethlisberger's legal team thinks that their case is a slam dunk,why the change of venue request???
Lol Chap dont forget the most important note.. NO EVIDENCE! Shes just a slut lookin for a paycheck.. all her text messeges spell it out..I would love to see some proof.. I havent seen or heard anything solid about her whole case..but i sure have seen alot against her.I dont care who the guy is,,i want proof.
Does anyone really care anymore. Nobody seems to care if Fatburger's a rapist and the league/ESPN will instruct everyone not to speak about it to protect the beloved Steelers, Harrahs and their A1 brand.
funny LJ get's more coverage on ESPN for sending a tweet with "FAG" in it, yet I"m guessing there will be no update tonite on sportcenter about Rapistburger and his attempts to silence his female accuser.
chapnasty-
They will delay it so that the fat statue protected by an underrated O-Line and the best D in football can stay "elite"
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Statue? That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. Have you ever watched Roethlisberger play?
# chapnasty says: November 10, 2009 2:49 PM
They will delay it so that the fat statue protected by an underrated O-Line and the best D in foorbtall can stay "elite"
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Haha. WTF is foorball? Is that what you and your sister play together on the short bus?
Why couldn't he have it moved to federal court?
jamaltimore , how can a Ravens fan even begin to speak. Ray Lewis is a Murderer.
@ tom coughlin's coat holder: "... why the change of venue request???"
Because Douglas County has jurisdiction where the Lake Tahoe Harrah's Casino is located (where she claims the assault took place) and would be the logical place to file charges -- not in Warsaw County (which is where she LIVES).
Sportnman
I'm sure she can find another job, his point clearly was that she isn't made of money and will sue get tired of pursuing this when she could b working more.
Sairway
Couch Lou is probably referring to Lou Holtz former head coach of Notre Dame and now analyst for CBS or ESPN or someon.
@ Steeler-lady
I think that this particular cases always favors the male in court. It is above and beyond sad but its the truth. Women who are viticms of sexual abuse and rape are often blamed for those actions. The "you shouldn't have wore that" sort of thing. It is without a question one of the biggest problems with our criminal justice system. As a woman I would assume you would understand and try to give her the benefit of the doubt due to this history. Just because you are a Steelers fan, and your QB is a fat statue, doesnt mean that you can ignore justice.
@Sportnman ... The tabloids aren't going to pay for a story they can get free. Her account is spelled out in her legal complaint, which is available online.
The defense has produced text messages that conflict with both her story and timeline and affidavits from coworkers to whom she bragged about her one-niter w/Ben. When they wouldn't back her rape allegation, she sued them, too. You feel bad about the pressure she's under? What about her coworkers? If I were one of the people she sued, I wouldn't be inviting her to lunch.
The thing is, she never expected to still be working at this stage. She sued for $3 mil and her lawyer convinced her Big Ben would write a Big Check rather than risk his rep fighting back. Things haven't quite gone as they planned.
@Chapnasty and jamaltimore ... I get that you don't like the Steelers. But this could just as easily happen to Romo or Flacco. It infuriates me because women like McNulty make it more difficult for real rape victims to get justice. It should infuriate you because you're men and the only available evidence suggests this woman is making a false rape claim to extort money from a man just because he's a wealthy athlete. And yeah, if it were Romo or Flacco in the same circumstances, I'd be just as furious. What this woman is doing is wrong.
She has no case and I love how people on here still believe that she is the victim here, That is why there is no coverage on it besides here and the post gazzette because everyone know this is another no name gold digger seeking her 15 minutes of fame, and a big paycheck well her 15 minutes ended the day her lies came out. she aint getting a big out of court settlement . Get over it haters , He did not need to silence her, her lies and bragging done that. She buried herself, did she not think this would come out.
But somehow , Ben is still guilty, the police wouldnt even file charges, that ought to tell you people something.
It is riotously funny when posters put words in front of "burger" to refer to the quarterback of the Steelers.
Just never gets old, or juvenile.
At least Chapnasty didn't waste a "burger" on his fat statue remark. Of course, the so called fat statue once again threw for three touchdowns on what was purported as the league's new best defense in their stadium.
"if roethlisberger's legal team thinks that their case is a slam dunk,why the change of venue request???"
Several reasons pertaining to advantage. No matter what a legal team thinks of their case, they should always strive to put their client in the best position to win. Especially in a high profile case such as this one that will further careers if won.
There is a much higher median income in Douglas County compared to Washoe County. Douglas County is much smaller than the mini metropolis (Vegas lite) of the Reno-Sparks area. AKA more NFL fans...less bleeding hearts.
The Reno-Sparks area of Washoe County produced the Ozzie Osbourne lyrics lawsuit. Of which some kid committed suicide and his parents blamed it on Ozzy's song lyrics. AKA the frivolous lawsuit capital...
@ Deb
See my post in response to Steeler Lady
Deb says: "The thing is, she never expected to still be working at this stage. She sued for $3 mil and her lawyer convinced her Big Ben would write a Big Check rather than risk his rep fighting back. Things haven't quite gone as they planned."
Do you have a link to where she tried to sue for $3 mil, Deb? All I could find is this:
The woman who has accused Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault has offered to settle a civil lawsuit against him if he admits he assaulted her.
It is one of three conditions attorneys for the woman, a former Harrah's employee, outline in a court filing they submitted to a Nevada court offering to settle the matter.
The conditions are that: first, he must admit that he assaulted her; he must deliver to her a letter of apology withdrawing "the false statements and allegations that he and his agents have made about her." And, lastly, he must donate $100,000 to the Committee to Aid Abused Women in Reno, Nev., "or a similar entity designated by the plaintiff."
"This letter is submitted to the court in order to rebut defendant Roethlisberger's counsel's unfounded and false suggestion that plaintiff has brought this suit for the purpose of 'extorting' a large monetary recovery," the filing said. "Plaintiff's only interest has been and is to regain the dignity that was taken from her."
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09252/996573-66.stm
Now this is not to say she still couldn't be acting out with this accusation for any number of reasons including: Attention, habitual victim, past abuse, any number of personality disorders including histrionic-borderline etc.
Great post Asswipe johnson, ANd you left out the part that Rx Dumblap, used to be prosecuting attorney in Washoe County. I think I would have it moved also. And what I have read this Judge Adams is a media whore just like Mcnutty.
And Deb as always great points great post. They could find stuff on this anywhere and I'm like you I think her ambulance chaser convinced her that Ben would pay and the Hotel would pay and neither have. I think if this gets moved , the case will be thrown as it should have been months ago. I for one am glad he is fighting this. I would have been easier to pay her, but he chose to fight.
Derek Lutz: HAHAHAHA that is funny about the fat statue, You nailed it.
You haters are the only reason I read on here and all you haters keep fueling that fat statue or rapist or whatever the name of the week is . So keep it coming, the more you hate the better he plays. Gotta love it
@ dereklutz
I could have used a burger but seriously, as a Cowboys fan who has to hear "Tony Homo" all the time, that gets annoying. He is a fat statue and again, he is protected by the best o-line in football. They get crap because Willie Parker is a terrible back and Ben holds the ball for too long because has no ability to scramble to give his receivers time. Obviously Denver's defense had some holes with 29 y/o Ty Law being the teams nickel back after being on the team for 3 days.
Some of these comments kill me. First there is no slam dunk in any trial. There is nothing like watching the look in a Lawyers face when he has lost after telling his chump he had a slam dunk.
From what I have heard, there are things that the victim people have uncovered on Big Ben that will be coming to light soon that will not put him in a very good light.
Court is a funny place and there is very seldom a party that comes out clean.
@ chapnasty think that this particular cases always favors the male in court. It is above and beyond sad but its the truth. Women who are viticms of sexual abuse and rape are often blamed for those actions. The "you shouldn't have wore that" sort of thing. It is without a question one of the biggest problems with our criminal justice system. As a woman I would assume you would understand and try to give her the benefit of the doubt due to this history. Just because you are a Steelers fan, and your QB is a fat statue, doesnt mean that you can ignore justice.
I disagree, this woman became less believable by her own words. She bragged to anyone at the hotel whom she worked with. So where is it justice, to see a man falsley accused. And Yes I say this as a woman , and not just as a fan of the "fat statue " as you call him. The only thing Ben is guilty of is not using better judgement. Nothing more. I would feel this way if it was any other guy that was being wrongly accused.
So answer me this, if she wanted justice, why not put him in jail? Huh , she never went to the police never went to the DR. wouldnt justice be better served with him in jail? No she chose to go to a lawyer and go after his money. And a year after the fact.
@ chapnasty and jamaltimore:
Sink back into your holes you emerged from to post on this story.
Let us know if your QB has led you to 2 SB wins and if not ... STFU.
Based upon everything in the public domain, it's hard to believe that a fan of Ray Lewis and hell I don't know a fan of Chris Henry (chapped buttock lips) perhaps, would so quickly emerge with a guilty verdict.
Let the process take place and we'll see what's discovered going forward. Until then, back to your stinkin' holes you nasty burgers!
Was that photo of Gérard Depardieu in his Halloween costume?
@Chapnasty ...
With all due respect, I'm sure the women on this site don't need instruction from men in how to react to rape issues. Most of us have either been there or have held the hand of a friend who has. I've spent time with dozens of victims of all ages who've been through things you could not imagine in your worst nightmares. And neither could Andrea McNulty. My first inclination is ALWAYS to believe the woman. I don't care WHO Ben plays for, if I thought he'd raped someone, I'd want him to pay for it.
But I've read every word of her complaint and gone over it with a practicing criminal attorney who's represented both victims and defendants in similar cases. From a victim's perspective and a logistical perspective there are BIG problems with her story. The pieces didn't fit from the outset and the witness affidavits plus her time-stamped text messages and e-mails, which have come out since, refute her account.
A woman who makes a false rape claim to bilk an innocent man out of $3 mil is no better than a man who victimizes women. And it would be easier to believe you're sincere in your concern for women if you weren't telling us we should condemn Roethlisberger because he's a "fat statue."
Bens Attorney says: "Great post Asswipe johnson, ANd you left out the part that Rx Dumblap, used to be prosecuting attorney in Washoe County. I think I would have it moved also. And what I have read this Judge Adams is a media whore just like Mcnutty."
Thanks Bens Attorney...Good Luck with the case. ;)
@ Bengalsstink
I'll go back into my "hole" when Ben leads the Steelers to 1 superbowl. He hasn't led sh*t, he has managed the game while the best Defense in the league year after year keeps opposing offenses out of the endzone. I am not a fan of Ray Lewis nor Chris Henry, does he even still play? What I find amusing is that you consider Ray Lewis guilty even though he had a trial and was proven innocent but you consider this d-bag innocent without a trial or evidence of anything different.
@ Deb
I never said anything to the point of how women should respond to a rape issue. You pulled that one out of mid air. I said that the criminal justice system tends to treat the women unfairly in rape cases. So I will accept your apology to that point. I am just saying that some people on this site, not you, seem to think that he is automatically innocent because some low level hotel worker accuses him of such. Don't take things so personally, I wasn't referencing you at any comment I made. I was making a broader more significant point that obviously wasn't understood. You, nor I, nor the all mighty Florio have a clue as to what happened exactly happened and we never will. We don't know anything about what the statue did (other than probably stand there HA!) I don't condem his personal life on being a fat statue (no quotes because it's a fact) just his athletic life. I do however see it as wrong that whenever some woman accuses an athlete of something they are automatically money grubbing.
@ Ben's Attorney
Kobe Bryant was guilty of bad judgement and he came out and said so, why hasn't Ben? As Asswipe pointed out, all the woman wants is:
"The conditions are that: first, he must admit that he assaulted her; he must deliver to her a letter of apology withdrawing "the false statements and allegations that he and his agents have made about her." And, lastly, he must donate $100,000 to the Committee to Aid Abused Women in Reno, Nev., "or a similar entity designated by the plaintiff."
Don't see this phanton 3 million number that die hard Steeler fans are pulling out.
@Chapnasty ...
You came on here to rag on a Steelers QB because you're a Cowboys fan. Rather than admit that, you're going to run through all kinds of convoluted arguments in an effort to distract us from the fact that you have little knowledge of this case and are only commenting because it involves a Steeler. You're not fooling anyone by quoting my friend Az-Wee-Pay. He's not arguing. He's an intelligent fan asking me a legitimate question. I do not pull numbers out of thin air. I have been looking up the information he requested while you have been acting silly.
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. If he reads all the posts on his articles (God help him), Gregg Rosenthal saw me do that just the other day on a thread about your beloved Cowboys. But any apology on this issue is a figment of your imagination. You were lecturing Steeler-Lady--and I assume from the user name that she's a woman--how wrong she was to defend Ben just because he's a Steeler. Thus I told you that women don't need men to tell them how to react to rape issues.
As for taking it personally, that's the point, Chapnasty--for many of us it is personal. And it's ridiculous that we have to discuss such a serious issue with people who use it as a "yo mama!" to a football rival.
Now, you can continue to argue all you like. But I'm not responding to you on this again.
@ chapnasty
Did you even WATCH last year's Super Bowl? You know, the one where Ben led a last minute, game winning drive with basically no time left on the clock AFTER the defense let Arizona score?
You say Ben hasn't led the Steelers to anything and meanwhile he led a game winning drive in a Super Bowl. If that's not leading a team, then I don't know what is.
So keep telling yourself that Ben doesn't do anything. When he finishes with over 4000 yards passing this year, I'll expect a formal apology.
Now, go get your f***ing shinebox
chapnasty says:
"I think that this particular cases always favors the male in court. It is above and beyond sad but its the truth. Women who are viticms of sexual abuse and rape are often blamed for those actions. The "you shouldn't have wore that" sort of thing. It is without a question one of the biggest problems with our criminal justice system."
This I would totally disagree with. In most states and cases all that is needed is a woman's word and it is in both the newspaper and the courtroom.
Whether the man is innocent or proven innocent by a decision of 11 unknowns in a courtroom is pretty much immaterial...the damage to his name is already done.
Admittedly I do not know much about this case other than what I quickly researched from the post-gazette above. But other than the fact that Ben risks any crazy ex-girlfriend or former one night stand coming out of the woodwork (a risk already on the table now)...he might as well apologize and pay the $100,000 to the committee to aid abused women. As opposed to take the risk of losing in court and ending up with a long term prison sentence.
Because once he has been accused of this, the damage is already done...
Hi, Az-Wee-Pay!
Sorry this took so long, I've been doing 10 things at once. Okay, first, here's a link to the original complaint filed on July 17:
http://www.post-gazette.com/downloads/20090721_roethlisberger.pdf
She originally sought $490,000 total in actual damages from Ben and several coworkers plus an unspecified amount from Ben in punitive damages.
On Sept. 10, the Washington Post (where I first read it) and other news outlets finally reported that the unspecified punitive damages included $1.5 million for emotional stress and $1 million for damage to her reputation. That's 2.5 mil plus $490,000, which comes to $2,990,000. I rounded up to $3 mil.
I can't give you a link because Post newspaper articles older than 60 days are archived--you have to pay to get them.
Okay, so Ben counterpunched by introducing evidence that she'd bragged to others about wanting to be with Ben beforehand and about hoping afterward that she was pregnant w/Little Ben. They have text messages/e-mails she sent about him, etc. THAT'S when she made this counteroffer you're quoting. But there's a catch.
She claims Harrah's covered up for Ben. If Ben didn't do anything, there was nothing to cover up. (And if you'll read her complaint, you'll wonder what they could have covered up. Her story doesn't include any witnesses or physical evidence that needed to be covered up.) BUT if Ben took her counteroffer and said he did it, she'd suddenly have a very good BIG BUCKS case against Harrah's. Interesting how all that works, huh?
@ Bens Attorney ... Thanks, as always :-)
Go Steelers and Roll Tide!!! (We had a very good weekend :-)
@Az-Wee-Pay ...
No risk of jail time for Ben. She waited a year after their one-night stand and filed a civil suit. She never approached police and they've stated they have no evidence a crime ever took place. Since she's filed no criminal complaint, no charges will be pursued. From the beginning, this case has been solely about money.
Hey Deb,
Thanks for bringing me up to date on this one while you're multitasking. :)
The Washington Post is rock solid...nobody here should have any qualms about their info.
So basically we have Ben-Harrah's standing in one corner with an agreement to drop the whole shebang (ooops is that a pun?) provided they kicked down a generous $3 mil...and Andrea McNulty, a former Harrah's employee, who blew her cover with text messages bragging about bagging the quarterback and by not having any witnesses or hospital records that coincide with her story.
Further proving my earlier point about all that's needed is her word to get this into a courtroom and in the newspapers.
So Ben's name is pretty much ruined...he now faces a courtroom battle with his freedom, career and future at stake...while she plays the victim and denies any culpability.
Only in America.
Chap nasty Deb done explained all of this so I dont need to explain further. She covered the reason why he is not paying,
AZ we pay, I am not really bens attorney , just my user name , my friend came up with it after i was arguing the facts of the case with someone , just like on here. Of it werent for me and Deb they would done have him proven guilty.LOL
Deb,
we did have a good weekend The Tide won and the Steelers won. Life is good Off to the SEC championship now
Ahhh civil suit, missed that. Saw a comparison to Kobe Bryant here and ran with it...thanks again Deb.
No risk for Ben here, damage is already done. Take this thing to the courtroom and do that dance.
Hopefully Ben wins the case and counter sues that thought out of anyone's head in the future.
I'm outta here for the evening. Have a good night!
chapnasty said: "He is a fat statue and again, he is protected by the best o-line in football. They get crap because Willie Parker is a terrible back and Ben holds the ball for too long because has no ability to scramble to give his receivers time."
statue?
best o-line in football?
no ability to scramble?
I've never seen anyone display such colossal level of stupidity in a single paragraph. And around here, that's quite a feat.
I suppose Bruce Arians the best offensive coordinator in the NFL also?
@ Deb
Obviously you still missed my point and wont get it. Fine. The issue itself is personal and has nothing to do with football. I am a rather realistic fan on all levels and believe me, I'm not even a Steerler hater. I wasn't alive in the 70's so the only Superbowl I saw against the Steelers displayed Larry Brown destroying you guys. So you can drop that one. I can respect your opinion because you unlike many idiots on here are 95% on point. The other 5% causes me to scratch my head but you are a Steelers fan so I can understand.
@Mborz
No stupidity just able to watch a game and call it how it is. Steeler's fans are oblivious. I was the same way with Quincy Carter when he took over for the Cowboys. Before you say anything, I am in no way comparing the two, just that I have supported someone because they were my QB. The only difference was, I was in my early 20's, in College and enjoying being in college so my judgement wasnt always that good. It is obvious that you do not have a future as an NFL scout.
@Chap ... Okay, that last bit was funny. We'll leave it there :-)
I noticed big Ben got off the bus for the Broncos game with bleached hair and dressed like a gang-banger. Looks like he's blended in well with the steeler crowd.
Bens Attorney says: "AZ we pay, I am not really bens attorney , just my user name , my friend came up with it after i was arguing the facts of the case with someone , just like on here."
That's okay Bens Attorney, my name isn't really Asswipe Johnson either. ;)
I called out two statements you made and you made no attempt to defend them, just the typical "oblivious Steelers fan" stuff that gets thrown around when someone doesn't feel like defending statements they made.
The Steelers offensive line is not even an elite one, let alone the best in the NFL. Think I'm the only "oblivious" one that feels this way? You must not have read this: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/11/concerns-remain-regarding-steelers-offensive-line/ That's just one of many. Their o-line was widely criticized as the worst to ever win a Super Bowl, yet somehow, your going to call them the best in the entire NFL. Hmmm.
You said Ben "has no ability to scramble to give his receivers time". This may be the very trait that Ben is best known for, is lauded for in every game he plays (including last Monday night against Denver) yet you say he can't do it at all. Think I'm the only one who thinks he's good at it? Do a google search for "roethlisberger extending plays" and see what comes up. Link after link talking about his ability to do what you just said he can't.
What's next, everyone is oblivious, except you?