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Lucas Oil Stadium has a different kind of noise problem

The RCA Dome in Indianapolis was so loud that the Colts were accused of pumping in fake noise.  No one is accusing the Colts of doing that at the new Lucas Oil Stadium.

Indianapolis’ home field is getting a reputation as one of the quietest places in the league.  Watching Colts games, Peyton Manning’s audible calls sometimes echo.  (Yes, we know the crowd shouldn’t be loud when the home team is on offense, but it’s a little much.)

The Patriots Tom Brady will play in the stadium for the first time Sunday night, and already got a scouting report that the place is quieter. “Peyton told me,” Brady said.

At least the Patriots-Colts game will be played at night.  Two weeks back, Dallas Clark lost a ball in the sun because of the blinding bright light that streams in when the Lucas Oil roof is open during afternoon games. 

UPDATE: A few commenters let us know of a television report that mice feces was found at Lucas Oil Stadium.  So not a great week for them. 

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43 Responses to “Lucas Oil Stadium has a different kind of noise problem”
  1. JPeterM says: Nov 11, 2009 4:00 PM

    The Patriots played there week nine last season.

  2. indianaraidersfan says: Nov 11, 2009 4:04 PM

    It’s a really nice facility, other than that big toilet seat in the middle of the field.

  3. ampats says: Nov 11, 2009 4:05 PM

    Always thought they pumped in noise. Should be a great game Sunday night!
    It will be interesting to see if Indy can overcome the losses of Sanders, Jackson & Hagler. Don’t see it happening over the season.

  4. John from Concord says: Nov 11, 2009 4:08 PM

    I wouldn’t be surprised if it was unprecedentedly loud on Sunday… Bill Polian is a bigger crook than Belichick ever was.

  5. chucktownYP says: Nov 11, 2009 4:10 PM

    Polian a crook? Please explain…

  6. gobearsgo says: Nov 11, 2009 4:11 PM

    That stadium sucks. Built to be a social event, not a football game.
    Of course, I was there to watch the Lions game from the second-highest row, so my perspective could be skewed…

  7. hayward giablommi says: Nov 11, 2009 4:16 PM

    I read an article on another blog a couple days ago regarding a rodent infestation and mice feces being a big problem in the concession areas at Lucas Oil as well. How bout that, PFT?

  8. leatherneck says: Nov 11, 2009 4:19 PM

    I think it’s the design of these new stadiums. The “club seats” are for corporate drones who don’t care about the team and don’t cheer very loud unless the rich people sitting all around them think they are some plebian football fan hick.
    The old stadiums are more blue collar and fan friendly.

  9. GRpatriot says: Nov 11, 2009 4:23 PM

    Amen, Brother, Amen!

  10. AirlineGuy says: Nov 11, 2009 4:24 PM

    Wait, there was a stadium that had light coming into it that affected play and FLorio didn’t give us a full write up about how the team was cheating? WTF Florio!?!?!?!

  11. hayward giablommi says: Nov 11, 2009 4:25 PM

    It doesn’t take a genious to figure out that all these cavernous new stadiums are not going to be as loud as the smaller, more intimate venues that they replaced. I was at the undefeated Pats-Colts game in 2007 at the RCA Dome, and it was by far the loudest I have ever heard it at a game (before the crowd speaker malfunction, of course).
    In addition to the seats being much higher up and away from the field, the open concourses let the sound waft out instead of bouncing back toward the playing field. I can’t think of any stadium built in the last decade where this isn’t the case, and we’ll be saying the same thing about the new Giants Stadium next year as well.
    With the continuing escalation of ticket prices and design of cavernous new stadiums, I doubt we’ll never hear stadiums as consistantly loud as we have in the past like the RCA Dome, RFK, Mile High, etc.

  12. Rob0729 says: Nov 11, 2009 4:26 PM

    The new stadium had no way to hide the speakers to pump in crowd noise?

  13. hayward giablommi says: Nov 11, 2009 4:26 PM

    It doesn’t take a genious to figure out that all these cavernous new stadiums are not going to be as loud as the smaller, more intimate venues that they replaced. I was at the undefeated Pats-Colts game in 2007 at the RCA Dome, and it was by far the loudest I have ever heard it at a game (before the crowd speaker malfunction, of course).
    In addition to the seats being much higher up and away from the field, the open concourses let the sound waft out instead of bouncing back toward the playing field. I can’t think of any stadium built in the last decade where this isn’t the case, and we’ll be saying the same thing about the new Giants Stadium next year as well.
    With the continuing escalation of ticket prices and design of cavernous new stadiums, I doubt we’ll never hear stadiums as consistantly loud as we have in the past like the RCA Dome, RFK, Mile High, etc.

  14. sultanofslot says: Nov 11, 2009 4:26 PM

    @JPeterM: but Brady didn’t.

  15. bian8 says: Nov 11, 2009 4:30 PM

    Hows that John? Lets hear the facts before you run your mouth.

  16. jersey73 says: Nov 11, 2009 4:33 PM

    @John from Concord:
    And for what reason or evidence is Polian a bigger crook than Belichick???

  17. Chimeric says: Nov 11, 2009 4:36 PM

    People actually believe they were pumping noise into that place? Ha

  18. The Hoff says: Nov 11, 2009 4:37 PM

    Im going to be so drunk and belligerent Sunday night, yelling at my TV as loud as possible, Brady will be able to hear me.

  19. hayward giablommi says: Nov 11, 2009 4:41 PM

    “And for what reason or evidence is Polian a bigger crook than Belichick???”
    ^^^^^^
    Oooohh, can I play?
    for starters, Belichick has never physically assaulted a member of an opposing team’s support staff.
    Class act that NaPolian is.

  20. I♥Patriots says: Nov 11, 2009 4:42 PM

    I heard that hey have mice there too.
    http://bites.ksu.edu/news/136678/09/11/10/indianapolis-mice-feces-found-lucas-oil-stadium
    GROSS!!!!!

  21. hayward giablommi says: Nov 11, 2009 4:44 PM

    “Lucas Oil Stadium”
    ^^^^^^
    At first I thought that this was going to be regarding the infectation of mice and all the rodent feces found around the concession areas that other blogs have been reporting on in the last couple days.
    Gross.

  22. Furious George says: Nov 11, 2009 4:55 PM

    anyone that doesnt know they were pumping fake noise to cheat is a complete fool. its the home field advantage. polian also changed the rules to benefit his light hitting receivers when they couldnt beat the Pats. that guy is a scumbag.

  23. The Real Shuxion says: Nov 11, 2009 4:57 PM

    Why would Polian pump noise into the dome when he can just change any rule to his teams advantage.
    If Ty Warren gets to Manning by using the swim move, I can guarantee that next year the swim move will get you a 15 yard penalty.
    BTW they did pump in noise, and I don’t blame them I would probably do the same thing if I was Polian. (Not so much with the random flipping out on people)

  24. The Real Shuxion says: Nov 11, 2009 5:01 PM

    # bian8 says: November 11, 2009 4:30 PM
    Hows that John? Lets hear the facts before you run your mouth.
    Run your mouth? How old are we, 15?

  25. lezmaka says: Nov 11, 2009 5:26 PM

    The rodent feces isn’t a problem. It was actually brought in on purpose for the Patriot fans. I think it was a really nice gesture to add something they are used to eating to the menu.

  26. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Nov 11, 2009 5:42 PM

    LMFAO, rat feces in the concession areas, wouldnt expect anything else from the find toothless folks of Indiana.
    They think it adds character, lol, and flavor
    And, yeah, there is no question that there was fake crowd noise. Seriously, I remember when Harbaugh lead the Colts to the AFC Championship. During that time, no one ever talked about the RCA Dome being one of the loudest stadiums. Are you saying that the sell out crowds at dome in the 90’s werent as loud as the sell out crowds in the dome in the last 5 years???? Please, the crowd was cheering just as loud, but the speakers werent helping them…….
    Side note, I am referencing the time period of Harbaugh going to the AFCC, I know that game was in Pittsburgh, I am simply referring to the home games from that era

  27. spyboots says: Nov 11, 2009 5:59 PM

    Eeew. Mouse poo?

  28. WillyDuer says: Nov 11, 2009 6:22 PM

    You people are too funny.
    1) There wasn’t as much talk of the noise in 1995 because there wasn’t nearly the volume of coverage or number of press people drumming up whatever stupid story they can come up with all week before games.
    2) All small stadiums are loud. As has been previously pointed out, it’s obvious why: lower roofs, closed off concourses, more people in less space. The Metrodome is basically the same building as the RCA dome and is loud as hell. When/if it gets replaced, there’ll be a new loudest place in the league. Lucas Oil is way larger, more open, much taller, and the roof is often open. The seats are also farther from the field and more club seats mean more old boring people up close. Of course it’s quieter. Any fan that claims otherwise is too stupid to realize that it can be just as loud in your section but that it’s not going to be anywhere near that way on the field.
    What’s funny is that the loudest game I’ve ever been to (including the Pats games in the RCA dome) was an ordinary regular season Colts-Texans game at Reliant. But that’s just because I was way up high and the noise echoed off all the metal ductwork above my head.
    3) The speakers at the RCA dome, and most likely in every stadium, aren’t anywhere near good enough to blast extra noise without people noticing it. Especially since so many of the RCA dome speakers were right up close to the fans (at LOS there are more of those huge stacks hanging from the rafters far away… which also suck, for different reasons, not the least of which is that they aren’t moisture-resistant). If they were pumping in sound, it would’ve been obvious from the speakers, not to mention that it’d be a miracle if the sound guy didn’t come in too early or too late a few times, blasting fake noise when the real crowd was quiet. Don’t say that they just mic’d and amplified the crowd in real time either, as there would’ve been feedback. (And before you bring it up, that glitch on CBS was proven to be an issue with their feed in the truck, not the actual crowd.)
    Laugh about the mice poop all you want, but they didn’t fake the crowd noise. Anyone who seriously thinks they did is an idiot.
    Now, the heat during that one game when the Pats had the flu… that’s another story. Though I’m not sure how that’s any different from the highly publicized/praised “gamesmanship” of the Pats leaving their awful turf uncovered leading up the 04 championship game.
    And for the last time… Polian didn’t change the rules. He pressed for a point of emphasis on enforcing the rule as it was already written. Very much like the league is enforcing the QB hit rules as written in the wake of Brady’s knee injury.
    And temper or no temper, he’s still a lot more respected and liked around the league than Jonathan Kraft.

  29. Josh I. says: Nov 11, 2009 6:43 PM

    Wow you guys are a bunch of assholes. No class whatsoever. There was no damn dubbed noise. Just becue it was loud doesnt mean there was piped noise. You patriots fans are ignorant and wont shut up if you lose. The colts and patriots have had some great games some wins and losses or both teams. But when the partriots lose of course they make some lameass excuse for losing. Piping noise, biggest piece of crap Ive ever heard. Ive never been to foxboro so i dont know what the sound is like there but if it got as loud as the colts stadium di at that game you would justsay that the crowd kicks ass and they are true fans but when it gets that loud at a colts stadium its piping noise and cheating. How low can you sink? Its gonna be a great game between two of the best teams in the league and if you patriots lose, suck it up and try again next time because thats what we’ll do.

  30. dlmcc0909 says: Nov 11, 2009 6:54 PM

    all the new stadiums these days are much quieter. It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure out why. None of the real fans can afford tickets anywhere close to the field. You have all corporate types who are there just to say they were there. They dont even know more than 5 players on the roster.
    Yankee Stadium here in NY had the same problem all year (different sport but same idea)
    When you price out all the real sports fans then you have to expect it to be more of a social atmosphere instead of a real football stadium like Arrowhead or Lambeau Field. Its sad to see the real fans unable to afford these tickets so that the stadiums become almost lifeless

  31. bian8 says: Nov 11, 2009 7:05 PM

    The Real Shuxion Im actually 6 years old.

  32. SF Saints Fan says: Nov 11, 2009 7:08 PM

    Josh I.:
    I have no idea if the Colts ever pumped in crowd noise, but it has been done in the NFL. I was at a Vikings game in the Metrodome and I guarantee that crowd noise was piped in via the loudspeakers during the game I attended. I heard the sound coming directly from the speakers. Absolutely no doubt about it. It was so artificial that you could tell when the volume was being turned up and when it was being turned down regardless of whether any fans were making noise.
    The Patriots v. Colts game should be a great one and could go a long way toward determining home field advantage. If the Colts win, the road to the Super Bowl in the AFC goes through Indianapolis. If the Patriots win, they may be able to get home field advantage.

  33. Richm2256 says: Nov 11, 2009 9:00 PM

    “People actually believe they were pumping noise into that place? Ha”
    Believe it? They were CAUGHT doing it when the system screwed up, or don’t Colts fans remember that?

  34. Richm2256 says: Nov 11, 2009 9:02 PM

    “People actually believe they were pumping noise into that place? Ha”
    Believe it my a$$, they were CAUGHT doing it when the system malfunctioned. And it’s illegal. But Colts fans don’t want to remember that, the Colts are holier-than-thou.

  35. pft rocks says: Nov 11, 2009 9:15 PM

    By now, if there really was not ‘pumped in’ music, Polian would have proved it by now. He HATES being wronged.
    In the RCA dome you could hear Peyton call plays on offense , until that game. Peyton had to go silent count at home. Because it was loud on offense. He was able to sign to the crowd on offense to get quiet and it did. (it would shock me …. you could hear a pin drop) There is the advantage of a dome.
    How do you people know that there was no pumping in?
    Polian is not a crook…. he is a bully, liar and a cheat… (he loves to play on words, so no crook). John, those guys calling you out work for Polian.
    No One would defend him unless they are on his payroll, or his son . He is not respected more in the NFL than Kraft. He is FEARED by more people in the NFL.

  36. tgfpftandflorio says: Nov 11, 2009 9:34 PM

    I’m an idiot: It was piped in.

  37. mnmaverick says: Nov 11, 2009 11:27 PM

    In the Metrodome they always have music and stuff piped in for the cheerleaders.
    That place gets loud without any assistance, no worries. It’s notorious for being amongst the loudest stadiums out there.

  38. bian8 says: Nov 11, 2009 11:37 PM

    I would love to know what game it was when it malfunctioned and why the NFL never did anything. It must be a huge conspiracy that all these people on their computers uncovered

  39. WillyDuer says: Nov 11, 2009 11:58 PM

    Rich, you’re an idiot. They were not caught. CBS had a malfunction with their feed; this was proven beyond any doubt by both CBS and independent sources.
    So the fact that it was so loud in that game that even the home offense had problems with it is evidence that they piped in noise? That’s not that strong an argument.
    I’m not sure why you’d call Polian a liar unless you’re just talking about injury reports (which everyone does and isn’t really the domain of the GM). Hell, most of the reason people don’t like him is because he’s so willing to say what he’s thinking – he’d probably be better liked if he lied more. Also, I didn’t say Bob Kraft. I said Jonathan. Big difference.

  40. tj.52 says: Nov 12, 2009 4:29 PM

    To all Colts fans:
    “But WBZ Photojournalist Bryan Foley says an RCA Dome security guard Benjamin Tully told him Sunday that the Colts do enhance the crowd noise.
    “He said, ‘I don’t know if you know this, but they actually pick up the crowd noise and pump it back through the P.A. (public address system)’”. “So I guess in a round about way you could call it cheating”. He went on to say Colts management (to include Head Coach Tony Dungy) is aware of this violation of NFL rules but have decided that their interpretation of the “noise enhancement” rule is “no big deal”.”
    Source:
    http://sameritech.wordpress.com/2007/11/06/indianapolis-colts-rca-dome-security-guard-says-team-does-cheat/
    ———————————————————
    “It’s not the first time Indianapolis has been accused of such tactics. The Pittsburgh Steelers complained about the same thing after a 26-7 loss at the Dome in November 2005. Since then, other teams have informally contended there is artificial noise pumped into the dome.”
    Source:
    http://cbs4.com/sports/crowd.noise.RCADome.2.490315.html
    ———————————————————
    BTW, the Patriots WON the game in question, so they were not complaining after a loss (like the Colts, Pollian and Dungy are famous for).
    Pollian is a dirty, cheatin bullying scum bag and Dungy knew all about it and didn’t say a word.

  41. Josh I. says: Nov 12, 2009 11:50 PM

    just because you guys dont like polian doesnt mean hes a liar and a cheater. damn it. everyone does stupid stuff. EVERYONE. polian does jut as mcuh dumb stuff as anyone else in the nfl. but that doesnt mean hes a bad owner. hes a good football owner. obviously helped lead the colts to play this well. but as i said. if he messes up once and all of the sudden an cheater and an ass. whatever guys. everyone messes up, just because hes done stupid thing doesnt make him the shitty guy everyone says he is

  42. tgfpftandflorio says: Nov 14, 2009 9:30 PM

    Josh:

  43. tgfpftandflorio says: Nov 14, 2009 9:36 PM

    Josh, Willy and Bian: There is NO possible way that you are so knowing. I think you work for the Colts or a relative of Polian. NO ONE who knows him would stick up for him like that!!!
    People ARE scared of the ‘boss’, all around the league. He plays with words and has his own interpretations and gets away with them. He is a VERY smart man, I’ll give him that.
    Maybe Arlen Spector should get involved with the noise thing.!!

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