Comments on: Jamal Lewis: Mangini worked the Browns too hard

By: bloodystupidjohnson

bloodystupidjohnson — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:39:07 +0000

Also, what was his excuss the last few years in balitmore?

By: aceman309

aceman309 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:30:07 +0000

What was Jamal’s excuse for last year’s losing when they had a big soft coach with soft practices?????

By: george

george — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:41:15 +0000

If Jamal wants to actually help his team, he needs to show his veteran skills and example on a daily basis to encourage younger teammates to grow as NFLers and to refrain from throwing anyone else, especially his coach, under the bus. He also needs to adopt the development of the Brown’s OL as his pet project if he ever wants to see another 1,000 yards/year.
It is so sad that Browns fans have had to put up with the expansion team blues for so long. They must rue the day that Art Modell left Cleveland and took their legendary franchise to Baltimore.
As a Steeler fan, I’m with you 100%. That move demonstrated everything that is wrong about the relocation process of major sports franchises over the years. It has always been about $$$ and new stadiums that the ultra-rich owners demand from local governments in order to keep teams in place which initiates the process. Modell was only filling the void produced in Baltimore when Robert Irsay moved the Colts to Indianapolis in 1983. What do they say about worms turning?
Back to the present, it is up to veterans like Lewis to put their personal desires or opinions on the back burner unless they produce a positive effect on their team. Jamal’s comments seemed to be a very positive calling his mates doing just that.
So here’s hoping the Browns rally around Quinn to go on a four game win streak until reality sets in against my Steelers. In the process, you win two against Cincy & Baltimore that help this convenient Browns/Steelers mutual admiration society.
Until we meet on 12/10!!

By: DemocratsAreStupid

DemocratsAreStupid — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:19:08 +0000

Jamal Lewis > Jim Brown
Jim Brown was overrated

By: DemocratsAreStupid

DemocratsAreStupid — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:18:18 +0000

Jamal Lewis > Jim Brown
Jim Brown was overrated

By: Davio

Davio — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:41 +0000

CBass – cycles of winning and the swinging of the football pendulum. OK, do you remember the Steelers and the puke they spewed on the field? I’m old enough to remember Steelers’ wives standing on 5th and Forbes Avenues trying to give game tickets away just to get a few people in the stands. And after Noll (who like Cowher learned to play and understand football in Cleveland as a Brown) won his superbowls, didn’t he go into a year after year funk and finally retire because “the game passed him by” as the Pittsburgh media reported? It is all cyclical. Get off your attitude and drink something other than IC Lite.

By: C.Bass

C.Bass — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:48:06 +0000

Florio’s T-bagger:
Are you really comparing Magini to Chuck Noll? Was Chuck Noll fired by the NY Jets for sucking?

By: The Rural Juror

The Rural Juror — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:34:55 +0000

What a bunch of uninformed asshats around here.
“Is there any wonder Jamal Lewis never amounted to anything?”
So he averages OVER a thousand yards per season, has a superbowl ring and he’s NEVER amounted to anything?
10,500 yards in 8.5 seasons…
One 2,000 yard season,
His worst season, he still put up 900+ yards…
Yeah, what a slouch.

By: Florio's T-bagger

Florio's T-bagger — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:31:37 +0000

Chuck Noll was 1-13 in his first year. I guess the Squeelers should of canned him half way through the year too. He didn’t make the playoffs until his 4th year. Mangini is working with a lot of the crap left behind from Camp Crennel. Lazy, over paid babies that just want to show up on gameday and collect their paycheck.

By: C.Bass

C.Bass — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:04:28 +0000

Duan,
Things happen in cycles? 20-year cycles? Keep telling yourself that. You must be one of those 850AM callers that predict 9-10 wins for the browns every preseason.
I might have agreed with you 10 years ago but after 10 years of great draft positions, the browns have nothing.

By: YOU'VE_BEEN_MOSSED

YOU'VE_BEEN_MOSSED — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:03:32 +0000

Not for nothing but Chris Baker said the same thing this yr. about Mangini in NY last yr. The guy just downright sucks at coaching.

By: Dirtybirds24

Dirtybirds24 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:03:13 +0000

Being a raven fan i have a lot of respect for jamal and what he did for the ravens. If it wasnt for him we dont win our superbowl. He carried a subpar Offense on his back. When he does retire it will be as a raven and wont be long before he ends up in our ring of honor.

By: dsmith4444

dsmith4444 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:00:07 +0000

Hey The Coop,
I know that you don’t want to listen to the employees, why should you? The leadership is doing a better job than Crennel, just look at th ewins. Idiot.

By: C.Bass

C.Bass — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:49:53 +0000

dybzinski:
Wrongo!
When did I say you shouldn’t root for the browns? I said it must suck. I’ve been a Steeler fan my entire life so your assumption that I move from front-runner to front-runner is way off. Fortunately for me, the Steelers always have a competitive team so I can’t even come close to imagining what you browns fans go through every year. Worst Steeler season I can remember was something like 6-10 (which is higher than the avgerage wins the browns have had since coming back).

By: Duan

Duan — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:31:27 +0000

@ dybzinski – I couldn’t have said it better brother!!!!
@ c.bass – the easy thing to do is jump ship, but it’s my squad! You ride with’em, you die with’em.
Things happen in cycles, we were the original dynasty of pro football and pittsburgh was the laughing stock, now pittsburgh is the rein supreme of the super bowl era.
The pendulum of greatness is getting ready to swing back in our direction and I am just waiting patiently.
But Lewis has a superbowl ring, therefor – he has the right to talk smack about whomever he wants, especially the head coach of a 1-7 team, that he plays for!

By: Starvin Marvin

Starvin Marvin — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:21:35 +0000

How much work is too much wwork for these overpaid prima-donnas?
They “work” Wednesdays thru Sundays.. a 5 day week like many of us. And the physical “work” is 2-3 hours a day? Gimme a break. These players are supposed to be pros. Time they act like it!

By: Zinn

Zinn — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:06:16 +0000

Shocking number of players who have expressed hatred of Mangini? How many is a “shocking”
number? Two? Three?
If you have paid any attention at all to mangini’s career you would recall players starting with Coles expressing their dislike from him from the first week of his tenure. The list is a long one. We can go with lColes, Dave Ball who gave a nice long interview in 2007 or 2008 as to how much better life was not playing for Mangini an d how bad Mangini was disliked by his players. We can also name David Harris, Kerry Rhodes. Dozens of players on the present jets have stated this year how much nicer it is to come to work and how much better the atmosphere is this year without Mangini.
Yes of course there are Jets that will go to the Browns and play for Mangini. But all those players are players on the verge of not having a job. They might like Mangini or they may realize that he is their best opportunity for remaining employed. We would all like him to if he paid us a million dollars a year for a job we could not get elsewhere.
What is shocking is not only the number of players that have attacked Mangini since his first week of training camp in 2006 but the complete lack of any player standing up to defend him. I understand some people simply are not football fans and do not pay attention but even the most casual fan would be hard pressed not to be aware of all the p,layers who have expressed dislike for Mangini and Mangini’s complete lack of respect towards his players.

By: sammm

sammm — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:05:45 +0000

Tomlin did something similar when he first arrived in Pittsburgh–pushed the team really hard. And the result was that they lost in the first round of playoffs and since then he’s learned to let some of the vets, like Ward, rest a little more during the week.
Good coaches learn from their mistakes…bad ones (or ex-ones) do not.

By: Skeeter

Skeeter — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:04:04 +0000

What a poor baby. Can you imagine a boss wanting his players to work?? How dare he?
Is there any wonder Jamal Lewis never amounted to anything? I wonder if Walter Payton ever cried about working hard.

By: dybzinski

dybzinski — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:00:46 +0000

well said trickbunny. Everyone likes to pile on with half truths.
As for C.BASS, this smacks of the typical sports fan nowadays. Lay in the weeds until a team has success and only then pounds their chest like they’ve been with them all along the way. Cleveland fans are born dedicated, we don’t pick a front runner. We love football and the team representing our home and want success, but if we don’t get success… guess what?… we don’t jump ship!!!
I guess you can’t understand that. So go watch whatever frontrunner team you follow today, and when they falter you can forget all about that team.
Just because we have crappy owners and coaches, we’re not going to stop being Browns fans. But you can’t understand loyalty, I’m sure.

By: RK

RK — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:51:29 +0000

Kordell Stewart.

By: XXINYG

XXINYG — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:45:18 +0000

Citizen Strange says: November 12, 2009 12:53 PM
Everybody on the Giants hated Coughlin too until they had that one lucky stretch and won a Super Bowl by the skin of their teeth.
When the Giants don’t make the playoffs this year they will probably remember what an ass Coughlin is.
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Winning 4 straight road games in the playoffs is lucky now? Also, you clearly didn’t watch the Super Bowl. We physically MANHANDLED the Pats* for 60 minutes. Go watch the game again.

By: C.Bass

C.Bass — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:39:13 +0000

At the HALFWAY point of the season, the Saints DEFENSE has more touchdown than the Clowns “offense”.
It must really suck to be a browns fan. You root for a 10-year expansion team, you can’t beat the Steelers, your team can’t score, and every TV/radio analyst makes fun of how terrible the browns are and how painful they are to watch.
Oh, I forgot, your owner is an idiot, all 4 coaches since coming back were terrible, your draft picks generally suck (except Joe Thomas), and yet you keep buying the new QB’s jersey. It’s funny to see all the Couch, Holcomb, Frye, and Quinn jerseys at Cleveland Stadium. Hey D-bags, wait until one of them actually does something before jumping on the bandwagon.

By: slutnuts

slutnuts — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:36:23 +0000

doesnt he know theres easier ways to get released. just say something about gays on twitter. this guys wants out, to have one last kick at the playoffs.

By: sripan

sripan — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:35:41 +0000

i am sure this comment by JL made florio’s day who seem to be invisible throughout the day ..
meanwhile JL its not yur fault ,u r spoiled as others by Crennel’s regime ,now its mangini ‘way no more free lunches …….

By: trickbunny

trickbunny — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:35:01 +0000

Zinn says:
November 12, 2009 12:58 PM
Jamal Lewis is right. But what is most shocking is not the number of players that express hatred of Mangini but the complete lack of players who will say anything nice or even remotely positive about Mangini.
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Shocking number of players who have expressed hatred of Mangini? How many is a “shocking” number? Two? Three? Care to name names? Are you gonna take Lewis’ comments that he thinks the Browns were worked too hard and equate that to “hate”? If someone else said something like “he was hard to get along with”, are you goig to turn that into “hate” to suit your purposes on a messgae board. Please feel free to provide links or proof to where any player used the word “hate” when talking about Mangini.
And as far as the “complete lack” of players who have said anything remotely positive about Mangini, the funny thing is I’ve read or heard positive (and, of course, “positive” doesn’t mean “glowing”) quotes from pretty much every player he brought over from the Jets. That would be about 8.
Well, there’s 8… That would be a little more than “a complete lack.”
I’m not defending Mangini. I’m pointing out that you can’t just write whatever the hell you want and try to pass it off as fact without someone noticing. Sorry.

By: bearsrule

bearsrule — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:24:00 +0000

What the hell, might as well get his monies worth on the way out. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t take shots the rest of the year. I hope so.

By: biglebronski10

biglebronski10 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:22:14 +0000

Wow. All this hate for Jamal, when he is just saying what all the other players are afraid to. Mangini is a punk, and probably will get punched by one of the players before the season is over.
Sorry Cleveland didn’t work out like you hoped it would, Jamal. I’m as disappointed as you are.

By: purplepuzzyeatrz

purplepuzzyeatrz — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:21:06 +0000

wow………you would think with all the money…all the trainers….all the tools available……the last thing you would hear is …
“they worked us too hard”….get over it you baby……..after several days of rest, you should be completely recovered from a hard training session……what a CROCK…..he pushed us too hard 4 months ago..beacause of that we are the worst team ever?????? Please….take more steriods and do your JOB>…unreal…
EXCUSES are like ARZwholes…we all have one

By: bobcat92

bobcat92 — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:17:49 +0000

If Lewis worked half as hard running the ball as he did selling crack, he would have 1,000 yards already. Time to cut him and give Harrison the ball.