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Tarkenton takes on another NFC North quarterback

Hall of Fame quarterback Fran Tarkenton, who was a bit of a handful early in his own career, has been speaking out lately regarding a couple of quarterbacks who play in the division where he was a star in the ’70s.

Earlier this year, Tarkenton took aim at Brett Favre for the manner in which he has treated the Packers.  Tarkenton went so far as to hope that Favre’s tenure with the Vikings results in failure.

More recently, Tarkenton has taken aim at Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

I really question whether he can play,” Tarkenton said of Cutler during a Friday appearance on The Waddle & Silvy Show on ESPN 1000 in Chicago.

“Quarterbacks need to make their team better,” Tarkenton said.  “If it’s a bad team, they can even make a bad team better.  Somebody may say well, even Peyton Manning couldn’t help the Bears.  Yes, he could.  Tom Brady could, too.  They might not win the championship or get to the playoffs, but they would make that team better.  Those wide receivers who are struggling would be better because they would make them better. . . .

“Jay Cutler had every opportunity to make plays for his team last night and every opportunity he didn’t.  That’s how I judge a quarterback:  Either you make plays or you don’t.  I don’t even want to talk about mechanics.”

Cutler threw five interceptions on Thursday night in a 10-6 loss to the 49ers.  The last pick came in the end zone, on a drive that could have delivered a victory.

Tarkenton offered some advice to Cutler, despite risking the wrath of the FCC.

“If Jay Cutler is not comfortable with the offense or the way they are calling the plays, he ought to go in there and tell that coach [expletive],” Tarkenton said.  “Dan Fouts came into the league and for the first couple of years he was struggling.  He said, ‘What do you do?’  I said, ‘Dan, if you’re not willing to go tell your head coach or your coordinator to kiss off, then you can’t play quarterback in this league.'”

So now we know what the problem was between Tarkenton and original Vikings coach Norm Van Brocklin.  Tarkenton apparently told Van Brocklin to “kiss off” one time too many, and Tarkenton was traded to the Giants.  Then he apparently told coach Alex Webster to “kiss off” one time too many, and Tarkenton was traded back to the Vikings.

And then if Tarkenton had tried to tell Bud Grant to “kiss off,” Tarkenton would still be limping from the application of Grant’s shoe to Fran’s fanny. 

Still, we think we agree with Tarkenton’s assessment of Cutler.  He’s not good enough to overcome bad coaching.  And that will serve only to increase the possibility that there will be a new coach in Chicago next season.

Possibly a certain head coach who has shown that he knows how to get the most out of Cutler.

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  1. PervyHarvin says: Nov 14, 2009 2:17 PM

    Even though I agree that Cutler sucks, what is up with Fran attacking qb’s?? Isn’t Mrs. Tarkenton pulling his pickle enough? He seems like a bitter old dude.

  2. houskat says: Nov 14, 2009 2:19 PM

    Tarkenton still alive?

  3. Igottz5onit says: Nov 14, 2009 2:21 PM

    He is right Cutler is a loser.

  4. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 14, 2009 2:21 PM

    Desperate for attention Fran ? Are you pi$$ed that Favre has stolen your thunder ? You can’t hardly dump on Favre now so you have to dump on Cutler just to get your name in the news ?

  5. bearsrule says: Nov 14, 2009 2:21 PM

    I’m a Chicago Bears homer, and I approve this article.

  6. CanadianVikingFan says: Nov 14, 2009 2:23 PM

    I may agree that Cutler is garbage, in fact he’s never had a great season. His best one was where he threw 25 tds for 18 picks, isn’t impressive at all.
    But the old man needs to shutup.

  7. ncm42 says: Nov 14, 2009 2:23 PM

    “The most out of Cutler”? Assuming you’re talking about Shanahan, Cutler’s penchant for drive-killing red zone interceptions did not start this year. Nor did Cutler’s tendency to have too many passes knocked down at or near the line of scrimmage, because his overconfidence in his arm strength seems to encourage him to throw almost every ball on a rope, rather than putting some touch on passes from time to time…

  8. HarrisonHits says: Nov 14, 2009 2:24 PM

    “Possibly a certain head coach who has shown that he knows how to get the most out of Cutler.”
    Good let ‘em have Shanahan. Cutler will do the same thing he did in Denver and has been doing this year. Get lots of passing yards and miss the playoffs. Bears will remain a 2nd tier team and they will keep laughing their asses off in Denver.

  9. east96street says: Nov 14, 2009 2:24 PM

    “Then he apparently told coach Alex Webster to “kiss off” one time too many, and Tarkenton was traded back to the Vikings.”
    Seeing how the Giants were the Detroit Lions of that era, you can say that Tarkenton got at least one right.

  10. GB3Pack4 says: Nov 14, 2009 2:25 PM

    yada yada yada – Fran, kiss off.

  11. bluestree says: Nov 14, 2009 2:26 PM

    Apparently, growing up as a boy named “Francis” let it’s mark on the Tark. You go old dude! And for all of you young people out there, just a warning, you think he’s bad, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet! Just wait till the Love Children hit seventy. No more Mr. Nice guy!

  12. The Notorious V.I.C. says: Nov 14, 2009 2:26 PM

    The minute the Bears acquired Cutler, I’ve been calling for a Shanahan/Gruden/Holmgren type who knows how to get the most out of quarterbacks.
    Giving Lovie Smith and Ron Turner a top-shelf quarterback who just turned 26 is like giving a Ferrari to my grandmother.
    I would love to have Shanahan in Chicago. I know his last stint didn’t end too well in Denver, but I think he will learn from it and be a better coach for it. Coaches, like players, are capable of learning from their mistakes and benefitting from a change of scenery.
    Another benefit of having Shanahan would be that he’s proven that he knows how to build a successful running game, and that’s what Bears football is about anyway.
    The only thing Ron Turner has proven is that he knows how to coach Illinois to an 0-11 record. The only thing Lovie Smith has proven is that he knows how to cheer stupidly on the sidelines as Devin Hester returns a kick/punt for a TD. With Hester not bailing him out with his returns these last couple of years, Lovie has been exposed as the mediocre coach I always knew he was, even during the Super Bowl year. (Lovie’s not the worst coach out there, but he’s definitely not championship material and he’s a horrible game manager and strategist/gameplanner.)

  13. casecat13 says: Nov 14, 2009 2:28 PM

    Tarkenton is upset that he is no longer the greatest QB ever to play for the Vikings…

  14. brian says: Nov 14, 2009 2:30 PM

    Tark has been an ‘absent’ ex-Viking and then he pops up to hammer Favre while trying to sell a book. I think Culter has the most punchable face in football but Tark needs to go away again.

  15. pjfuller says: Nov 14, 2009 2:32 PM

    Is it a coincidence that both QB’s are represented by the pillar of truth himself, Bus Cook?

  16. Wiscdave says: Nov 14, 2009 2:34 PM

    Let me correct your history. Van Brocklin resigned before Tarkenton was traded to the Giants. Tarkenton had been making noises about not coming back and Jim Finks had an offer from the Giants he couldn’t refuse. One of the draft picks the Giants gave up turned into Ron Yary (HOF 2001) Talk about timing. Bud Grant was hired three days after Tarkenton was traded.
    Nonetheless, Tarkenton and Van Brocklin seldom saw eye-to-eye, but whether Tarkenton could have made the team better during that era is debatable. Van Brocklin was not the kind of person you could tell to kiss-off.

  17. rydendonkeys says: Nov 14, 2009 2:36 PM

    Jeff George

  18. The Notorious V.I.C. says: Nov 14, 2009 2:52 PM

    I love how, according to all these internet armchair QB football experts, Cutler (a QB who doesn’t even have 3 full seasons as a starter under his belt) has “proven” that he is not a winner. Yeah, a great sample size there – less than 3 full seasons as a starter, one of which he spent almost dying from diabetes.
    Oh yeah, I forgot he also “never won anything in college”. Uh huh. Because Vanderbilt is such a college football juggernaut.
    Is he a finished product? Hell no. Were Bert Farve, Steve Young, Drew Brees, John Elway when they had just turned 26? Nope.
    Is he going to be as good as those guys? I don’t know, but anyone who knows the least bit about the actual game of football (and I don’t mean that you know how to look up “statistics” on google, or that you play a lot of Madden) can see that this guy is a good QB with an impressive skill set.
    Oh yeah, I forgot he’s a wimp and a pussy, according to all you internet warriors who are sitting back in your La-Z-Boys crunching Cheetos. Yeah, tell that to his teammates who see him taking a pounding out there and who rally around him when they see him making plays like these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP67yCakWyA

  19. leatherneck says: Nov 14, 2009 2:53 PM

    Brett Favre owns all the records that Tarkenton owned when he retired.

  20. ncm42 says: Nov 14, 2009 2:53 PM

    …I have to also say, Shanahan makes so much sense for the Bears. Not only because of Cutler, but Shanahan grew up in Chicago, if memory serves, and he was a QB at Eastern Illinois. He will be the coach of the Bears in 2010…

  21. raideralex99 says: Nov 14, 2009 2:53 PM

    I wonder what Fran thinks of JaMarcus?

  22. GRpatriot says: Nov 14, 2009 2:54 PM

    At least with Grossman, the salary was affordable!

  23. Beardoggs says: Nov 14, 2009 2:54 PM

    Fran Tarkenton= zero NFL Championships and Super Bowls

  24. Richm2256 says: Nov 14, 2009 3:05 PM

    “a top-shelf quarterback”
    The words “Jay Cutler” and “top shelf” don’t belong in the same sentance. A “top shelf” quarterback doesn’t have a 21-25 record and throw 17 INTs to 14 TDs over nine games.
    You just insulted every NFL quarterback worth a $hit.

  25. sevendollarbologna says: Nov 14, 2009 3:17 PM

    There is a consistancy in his performance for both of the teams he’s played for–(in sucking)It’s hard to beleve, but It’s looks like the Broncos knew what they were doing on this one.

  26. CYGNUS X-1 says: Nov 14, 2009 3:19 PM

    I said it before the season that only way the bears would lose this year would be the coaching and I was right.I love how you losers in denver are laughing now and hate cutler.funny you never heard a negative thing about him until he was traded.then he was the worst qb ever.nice start you had to begin the season so how’s it lookin with your beloved orton after 2 straight losses and how many picks?with shanahan the bears would not look totaly lost on offense like they do now.sure cutler sucks right now but again it comes down to coaching.we knew they would not run a denver offense but I thought now that they have a great young qb they won’t be as predictable and maybe even run a pro offense.how wrong could we fans have been,let’s look at what he does best as a qb and then of course not base the offense on that.again name ne another team that refuse to rub plats that work more than once a game?you can’t because the bears are the only team that does that.olsen catches a pass for 20 yds.?nice now go sit on the bench or block on the next play while we run it up the middle for no gain.he should never have apologised to the defense after the game,did they do that after being blown out 2 of the last 3 games?the only reason they looked good is the 49er’s are almost as enept as the bears on offense.the fact is after Lovie fired rivera after the superbowl the defense has fallen apart because he refuses to make any adjustments to his scheme or during the game.the bears make enough money they can afford to clean house and fire everybody!

  27. chickenfootishunglikeachicken says: Nov 14, 2009 3:20 PM

    fran tarkenton: along with robert smith, the only vikings to ever have class and intelligence……. i just wish they could have been on the packers and earned superbowl rings. out of all the vikings history, they both deserved rings the most.

  28. Fire Ted says: Nov 14, 2009 3:22 PM

    Sadly, for Vikings fans, Fran did something Favre won’t do…bring them to the Super Bowl…even though he couldn’t finish the job. Favre won’t be able to say that after this or any year.

  29. Bob S. says: Nov 14, 2009 3:26 PM

    Orton, even considering last week’s game when Steelers were in his face all night, Orton for Denver has looked better than he ever did for the Bears even in all those wins with them. Benson looked like he was just another first round bust for the Bears – now he may be the 2nd best running back in the entire league. The only reason Bears gave up two first round picks and a starting QB for him is because he really had played excellent football for the Broncos.
    So here’s 3 players that have greatly improved or worsened just by getting out of or into Ron Turner’s hands.

  30. Bob S. says: Nov 14, 2009 3:31 PM

    Richm2256 says:
    “a top-shelf quarterback”
    The words “Jay Cutler” and “top shelf” don’t belong in the same sentance. A “top shelf” quarterback doesn’t throw 17 INTs

    sorry you’re slightly wrong
    at 17 intercepts he now leads the ENTIRE league
    CERTAINLY TOP SHELF

  31. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Nov 14, 2009 3:34 PM

    “That’s Incredible!” was an enjoyable show.

  32. BEAR-A-HOLIC says: Nov 14, 2009 3:40 PM

    Your a silly old man…Peyton could NOT help this team, in fact it would be worst, he would be on his back MORE than Cutler because he’s not as fast. Same for Brady !

  33. Scoop says: Nov 14, 2009 3:44 PM

    It’s the coaching…its the WRs…its the Oline…its the alignment of Jupiter and the Zaxon Galaxy…its that Matt Forte now sucks even though he was the reincarnation of Walter Payton just a few short weeks ago.. always something other than JC.
    Dang, I wish I was JC. I’d love to live in a world without accountability and where all my short-comings always got blamed on somebody else. That’d rule.
    The fact is, Jay Cutler is a system QB. He has a chance with a dominant D and a great running game. He’s the perfect player to make a great team something special. He elevates nothing. He transcends nothing. He belongs in the pack, with the Delhommes, B. Grieses, and Dilfers. He’s a nice complimentary player who never deserved or earned the franchise designation annointed to him.
    After 3.5 years, the evidence is clear enough.

  34. nerd says: Nov 14, 2009 3:45 PM

    Bears=QBs bane. That’s the nature of the franchise.

  35. Richm2256 says: Nov 14, 2009 3:52 PM

    Notoriuos VIC: “I love how, according to all these internet armchair QB football experts, Cutler (a QB who doesn’t even have 3 full seasons as a starter under his belt) has “proven” that he is not a winner. Yeah, a great sample size there – less than 3 full seasons as a starter, one of which he spent almost dying from diabetes”
    At some point, you have to look at the body of work a player has assembled. Cutler has played forty six games over 3 1/2 seasons. As Parcells has always said: You are what your record says you are.
    Cutler’s record is that he’s a sub-500 quarterback. You can compare him to any QB you want at age 26, but the pint isn’t his age, it’s his performance. You think he’s going to miraculously become a superstar QB next year or the year after, when all signs show him declining? I mean come on, he was supposed to be the Savior of the Midway and he’s thrown 17 picks already this year – five in his most recent game!
    At some point you have to stop making excuses for him; it’s his coaches, it’s his line, he’s got no receivers ….. plenty of other NFL quarterbacks are in that same boat, and they’re not throwing 17 interceptions.
    At some point you have to stop living off “potential” and start living on reality. You simply have to admit that he is who he is. I don’t see Jay Cutler as the “savior” of this, or any other, franchise. I don’t see this guy maturing into the next Dan Marino or Joe Montana.
    And the reason people take delight in his poor performance is because Cutler has given them no reason not to believe that he is a cocky, arrogant little punk.
    People like to see cocky, arrogant little punks get their comeuppance.

  36. man without shoes says: Nov 14, 2009 4:01 PM

    Fran, the businessman, is trying to get his name back in the public eye to promote his new autobiography. Read more about it here:
    http://www.examiner.com/x-1723-Minnesota-Vikings-Examiner~y2009m10d20-Tarkenton-bio-offers-insight-to-Vikings-glory-days-and-perhaps-to-his-comments-on-Favre-in-Purple

  37. Terry says: Nov 14, 2009 4:08 PM

    Doesn’t Fran Tarkenton understand nobody cares what he thinks? He’s a non-entity!

  38. Avon Barksdale says: Nov 14, 2009 4:17 PM

    fanny? really?

  39. csaber2007 says: Nov 14, 2009 4:20 PM

    “Fan_Of_ Four says: November 14, 2009 2:21 PM
    Desperate for attention Fran ? Are you pi$$ed that Favre has stolen your thunder ? You can’t hardly dump on Favre now so you have to dump on Cutler just to get your name in the news ?”
    Hahaha! That’s classic…Brent looks good in one half of a season just like last season and already you’re dissing on Tarkenton. Are you just a front runner FoF? Oh wait, hope Brent doesn’t fade down the stretch like last year too…then what will your excuse be?

  40. Supersuckers says: Nov 14, 2009 4:46 PM

    I am going to borrow a term from chickenfoot and officially call Tarkenton an asshat. This is one bitter angry son of a bitch. Playing all of those years with absolutely nothing to show for it quite possibly have made him mentally ill.

  41. Richm2256 says: Nov 14, 2009 4:51 PM

    I don’t know where to start with you, CYGNUS X-1. You are the single worst Cutler defender on this thread (read: moron)
    For starters, when a quarterback throws FIVE interceptions, that’s on HIM, not the coaches. The coaches aren’t on the field, controlling Cutler’s vision of the field or his horrible decision making about when to throw and where to throw to. That’s all on Cutler. If you can’t find an open man, THROW THE BALL AWAY. It’s right there in week 1 of QB 101, and happens every week. Nope, ol’ Jay decides to chuck it right into coverage, or better still, to an opposing DB.
    That’s on HIM, people. Rookies like Sanchez have the excuse of being, well, rookies. Vets like DelHomme and Cutler, five picks are on THEM.
    Next, are you SERIOUSLY pointing a finger at Kyle Orton???? Orton has far fewer picks than Cutler, and while they may have lost two straight, would you trade Chicago’s record for Denver’s right now? Of course you would!
    Lastly, you think Cutler shouldn’t have apologized to his defense? That moron threw FIVE interceptions, yet the ‘Niners were held to just TEN points! Are you $hitting me???? Damn straight he should have apologized to that defense. They played their a$$es off trying to cover up for HIS mistakes, and he can’t even get them eleven points ??? Does the defense have to do all the scoring, too? Some “top shelf” quarterback ya got there, Chicago.
    You Bears fans can complain all you want about your coaching staff’s play calling, but your defense showed up Sunday, and your team would have won if your “top shelf” quarterback could find one of his OWN receivers for a change.
    Never thought Rex Grossman would look like such a good choice back there, maybe Lovie still has his phone number?

  42. SmackMyVickUp says: Nov 14, 2009 5:00 PM

    What young QB is good enough to overcome bad coaching?

  43. Fire Ted says: Nov 14, 2009 5:02 PM

    I also think its f**king hilarious that Vikings fans are so goddamned desperate for some glory they are willing to shed the guy they would have argued before Favre was the greatest Viking QB ever…now it’s Favre. Stupid, vapid, shallow pathetic Vikings fans…best part, Favre won’t deliver crap because there is no way they can beat New Orleans. Priceless.

  44. Bob S. says: Nov 14, 2009 5:03 PM

    Richm2256 says:
    Cutler (a QB who doesn’t even have 3 full seasons as a starter under his belt) has “proven” that he is not a winner. At some point, you have to look at the body of work a player has assembled. Cutler has played forty six games over 3 1/2 seasons.

    Get real! The Broncos had absolutely NO DEFENSE the last few years but to Marshall alone Cutler completed OVER 100 passes EACH of the last 2 seasons. Just why else would a NFL GM give up so much for him if he showed nothing as you the expert in your own armchair thinks?

  45. CYGNUS X-1 says: Nov 14, 2009 5:09 PM

    richman you are the moron!before he got to the bears he was thought of as one of the top young qb’s in the league and looked what happened to him once he got there.orton was considered a below average qb by the “experts” while in chicago and now that he is not there he is a great one?newsflash jackass the bears started out 5-0 last year with orton and where did that get them?you and denver fans are just happy he and the bears are doing lousy because he didn’t want to play for you anymore.get a decent coach and he will be a good qb again.again where was he was an awful qb talk when he played for the broncos?he did not get this bad without help of turner and lovie.as for his apology again where was that when the defense was letting the bengals and cardinals run all over them.the only reason the niners did not score any more points is ther offense is almost as worse as the bears.it had nothing to do with the bears d which again will breakdown against the eagles.

  46. pbuck says: Nov 14, 2009 5:22 PM

    Greatness doesn’t need excuses.

  47. Youngs79 says: Nov 14, 2009 5:28 PM

    Hey Fire Ted, did you forget who whipped your pathetic team not once but twice!! The Packers are the Vikings beeotches. Yea, you have a lot to be proud of with your lousy team. First in the NFL in penalties, First in getting the QB sacked. The Packers are a terrible team, in a terrible city, with a terrible coach and a terrible GM. Bob Nelson must be your inbred Dad. Your team is going to be awful for years. Get used to it and STFU.

  48. purpleguy says: Nov 14, 2009 5:30 PM

    Chickenfoot, I hope your comment on Fran and Smith having class and deserving a ring was sarcasm, cause Tarkenton was know as about the most self-centered difficult player during his Viking days, and Robert Smith was such a puss that he cost the Vikes the 98 NFC championshipm after he ran out of bounds at the end of the game to avoid getting hit instead of running out the clock. Those two probably least deserve the ring from their respective teams.
    And Fire Ted, I think you’d find most Vike fans agree Tarkenton was the best of the Viking QBs. Maybe we can’t beat New Orleans (even though we beat em last year); however, at least the Vikes are playing well enough to make the playoffs and find out. Better than waiting out the year hoping our GM and coach get canned.

  49. PervyHarvin says: Nov 14, 2009 5:38 PM

    Fire Ted says:
    November 14, 2009 5:02 PM
    I also think its f**king hilarious that Vikings fans are so goddamned desperate for some glory they are willing to shed the guy they would have argued before Favre was the greatest Viking QB ever…now it’s Favre. Stupid, vapid, shallow pathetic Vikings fans…best part, Favre won’t deliver crap because there is no way they can beat New Orleans. Priceless
    ————————————————–
    Vikings give up 21.8 ppg and 332.6 ypg
    Saints give up 21.8 ppg and 331.6 ypg
    Saints score 37.9 ppg
    Vikings score 30.5 ppg
    Vikings have the better O and D lines. Better special teams. Ad is better than their backs.
    Brees- 17 td and 7 picks
    Favre-16 tds and 3 picks
    Saints- 16 fumbles,lost 9
    Vikings-7 fumbles,lost 5
    What makes New Orleans so much better than us? You must see something I don’t. Be a good game. Football analyst you are not. Keep hating Packer Nation,cousin to Raider Nation!

  50. Richm2256 says: Nov 14, 2009 5:46 PM

    “Just why else would a NFL GM give up so much for him if he showed nothing as you the expert in your own armchair thinks?”
    According to everything that was written at the time of the trade – by sportswriters and Bears fans – Da Bears gave up practically nothing because no one thought Kyle Orton was worth a damn! Now all of a sudden he’s “so much”?
    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Orton is the second coming of Joe Montana, I’m just saying that he’s better than Jay Cutler this year, and everyone likes a guy who keeps his yap shut and just goes out and wins, versus a “me-first” guy like Cutler who can’t get it done.

  51. JimmySmith says: Nov 14, 2009 6:04 PM

    Tarkenton deserves to voice his opinion based on all the Superbowls he won for the Vikings….opps, retract that statement.

  52. Fire Ted says: Nov 14, 2009 6:05 PM

    First to PervyHarvin…MN has beaten Green Bay twice and you talk all the time about how shitty they are. Who else? Detroit? St Louis? San Fran? Cleveland? Try beating a playoff team…oh wait, you lost to the only playoff team you have encountered.
    To Young979, the post had nothing to do with Green Bay, yet like most Vikings fans you lack the confidence to stick to the matter at hand. The PFT story was about Tarkenton and Cutler. Nothing to do with Green Bay, yet like the average douchebag MN fan whose team has never won ANYTHING you run your mouth after a half a season and talk about Favre like he is the greatest MN QB ever…effing dumbass.
    As for versus New Orleans, I see the better OL in the Superdome…maybe front four on defense, but sorry, the DBs are far superior in New Orleans…betcha wish they had kept Sharper huh? This is the 1998 season all over again….we all know how that ended.

  53. greenie says: Nov 14, 2009 6:13 PM

    I LOVE THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!! We need more guys like this. I hate all of the mamby-pamby commentators. Tarkenton has earned the right to talk about these guys and he TELLS THE TRUTH, not worrying about being politically correct. KEEP TALKING TARKENTON. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. Scoop says: Nov 14, 2009 6:16 PM

    Cutler was losing his shine in Denver BEFORE the big trade. It just became more fashionable to hate Josh McDaniels…thus the dead artist effect.
    Unfortunately, my Cutler delusions ran deep until the bitter end…so I feel for you Bears fans hoping against hope. Like I said before, Cutler makes you feel good all over at first, then the buzz becomes more elusive, and before you know it, he’s burned holes in your brain and you can’t think rationally anymore– kinda like they describe crystal meth….

  55. PervyHarvin says: Nov 14, 2009 6:32 PM

    Fire Ted says:
    November 14, 2009 6:05 PM
    First to PervyHarvin…MN has beaten Green Bay twice and you talk all the time about how shitty they are. Who else? Detroit? St Louis? San Fran? Cleveland? Try beating a playoff team…oh wait, you lost to the only playoff team you have encountered.
    ————————————————-
    Yep,a tipped pass in the last minute kept us from beating the NFL champs in their crib. What’s the point? I’m sure if Pack was 7-1 us Vikings fans would never hear the end of it! I mean look at some of you when you suck!! And yes,face the truth. Green Bay not very good right now.

  56. Bob S. says: Nov 14, 2009 6:35 PM

    Richm2256 says:
    November 14, 2009 5:46 PM
    “Just why else would a NFL GM give up so much for him if he showed nothing as you the expert in your own armchair thinks?”

    I was referring to the value the BEARS GM thought CUTLER was worth giving up 2 #1s to him. Cutler was a far better QB for Denver than he has become under that Turner. How on earth does this guy keep his job? Benson is a worse example of Turner’s incompetance which you see anyway each and every game in his play calling.

  57. PervyHarvin says: Nov 14, 2009 6:39 PM

    Fire Ted says:
    November 14, 2009 6:05 PM
    As for versus New Orleans, I see the better OL in the Superdome…maybe front four on defense, but sorry, the DBs are far superior in New Orleans…betcha wish they had kept Sharper huh? This is the 1998 season all over again….we all know how that ended.
    ————————————————–
    Better O line? I’ll argue that til blue in the face. Don’t think so. Think we could wear on that D with our big bodies. Kept Sharper? Not really.He didn’t fit into the scheme here. Seems to me he was on the block for quite awhile until Saints took him for a bargain. Good for him,having a great year. Wouldn’t get all those picks in our system.

  58. Fan of Football says: Nov 14, 2009 6:43 PM

    What a douchebag

  59. packers4life says: Nov 14, 2009 6:56 PM

    “What makes New Orleans so much better than us? You must see something I don’t. Be a good game. Football analyst you are not. Keep hating Packer Nation,cousin to Raider Nation!”
    The Saints average 426.9 yards per game while the Vikings average 358.8 yards per game. Not to mention that the Saints have scored more points then the Vikings.
    and oh yeah, they’re undefeated.

  60. Youngs79 says: Nov 14, 2009 6:58 PM

    Fire Ted, if I want any lip out of you I’ll scrape it off my zipper. I never mentioned Brett Favre once in my post and the only reason I mentioned the Fudge Packers is because you attacked all Viking Fans. My football coach tried out for the Vikings and he said Tarkenton was the biggest A-Hole on the team. So, I’ll throw Tarkenton under the bus every time, I don’t care who he played for. I’m not even proud Tarkenton was a Viking. He was and still is a bad person. I’m not dillusional about players who played for my favorite team. I knew Tarkenton was an A-Hole thirty years ago.

  61. PervyHarvin says: Nov 14, 2009 7:14 PM

    @ packers4life – Has that what the Packer season has come down to? Knowing the Vikes will be in the playoffs bar total meltdown and wanting the Saints to kick our ass?? LOL WOW! That must suck.
    I’ll make you feel better-
    NFL upset of the week: Pack beats Dallas at home! I’m rooting for you. Dallas is coming on at 6-2 and Vikings should want Dallas to lose. Every win and loss will be crucial at seasons end for home field advantage.

  62. Philtration says: Nov 14, 2009 7:32 PM

    I love how the Viking fans piss all over the guy that took you to 3 Super Bowls so you can swallow for that hillbilly interception machine Favre.
    When Favre throws that killer pick that knocks the Vikings out of the playoffs I will laugh my ass off and so will most of the country.

  63. VikingsFan23 says: Nov 14, 2009 7:50 PM

    Fire Ted
    You forgot that the Vikes also beat Baltimore.
    The Vikes have beaten 4 teams with winning records at the time of their game – SF, GB, BAL, GB.
    How many teams with winning records have the Packers beaten this year? Did your team even beat a single team last year with a winning record at the time of the game?

  64. VikingsFan23 says: Nov 14, 2009 8:00 PM

    Also Fire Ted –
    I think you are correct, this season has a lot of 1998 tendencies.
    One team is a high flying team which scored points in bunches, has an opportunistic, turnover causing defense, and is the darling of the football prognosticators.
    The other team is a power football team QBed by a cagey veteran QB which wasn’t seen as a serious contender most of the year.
    And we all know how that turned out.

  65. JimmySmithBlows says: Nov 14, 2009 8:05 PM

    Reminder to all Packer fans talking complete nonsense. The two most meaningful games in the Viking-Packer rivalry were played in Green Bay…and Green Bay lost BOTH games. I know, the Vikings didn’t beat the Eagles the following week of the playoff beatdown of the Pack, but winning that game was very enjoyable. And although I’m not or every will be partial to Favre, watching him go into your stadium and pick the D apart again was amazing.
    The Vikings haven’t one a Superbowl…I’m pretty sure everyone knows that. Let me just say, Green Bay has been exactly collecting them at a rapid rate in the past 30 years either.
    Jimmy Smith, Fire Ted enjoy the complete meltdown of season. It is only halfway over for you douchebags.

  66. spliffbunker says: Nov 14, 2009 8:37 PM

    i was real curious as to how Cutler would develop in his 4th year . looks like this is a lost year..its ironic that he went to a team that lacks experienced skill players with a poor offensive line & then combines that with chronic cluelessness in the play calling & scheme… at least he was finally going to have a defense…
    opps…
    twice that i have seen this year they looked like the 2008 Broncos…who were at least good for laughs…at times it looked like a Monty Python skit
    Cutler is probably a major head case at this point…the Jeff George stuff occured to me last year early last year.
    but its a little early to write him off…i still think he has enormous upside & if he has a problem with arrogance all this might benefit him in the long run…i think Shanahan & Bates ( or McDaniels ) would have moved him up to the next level
    it would have been interesting to see how he would have developed with Denver this year…but its interesting to see karma in action as well
    most of the stuff being said about Cutler was being said about Francis at about the same point in their careers…& but Cutler has more talent than Tarkenton ever dreamed of having

  67. Richm2256 says: Nov 14, 2009 9:06 PM

    “but Cutler has more talent than Tarkenton ever dreamed of having”
    Are you stupid, or just playing with us? Seriously, get your head checked.

  68. sommerday says: Nov 14, 2009 11:07 PM

    Tarkenton was a little runt QB that would run around for 30 seconds to finally pass. He would never make it as a QB now as the little cockroach that he is. The defensive players are much much faster now.
    And Tark is criticizing QB’s???
    Why is that little runt so bitter in his old age?

  69. Satanic Hell Creature says: Nov 15, 2009 12:02 AM

    One thing people are failing to notice is that the radio station contacted Tarkenton to get his take on the matter. He didn’t make his opinion be read or heard on his own. So, that alone means he has the right to say whatever he wants on the subject. Obviously he has some insight being a HOF QB and having held almost every passing record when he retired.
    The thing I find pretty funny, is how this whole thing melted down to a Packer vs Viking fan battle. But, even funnier than that, most Packer fans have nothing to look forward to this whole season other than hoping the Saints end the Vikings run.

  70. Majik Man says: Nov 15, 2009 10:29 AM

    If the Bears clean house, which they should, it would be interesting to see if a push for Holmgren is made. He could be given full power, and his ability to mold a wild, gun slinger of a QB is well known. Not saying he could definitely “fix” Cutler, but he probably has the best shot. I don’t like the Bears at all, but I’ve been a fan of Cutler since his Vandy days, and would like to see him succeed.

  71. Chickenfoot says: Nov 16, 2009 1:03 PM

    Purpleguy:
    This my 1st post on this thread…….. don’t assign anything to me unless you are sure I wrote it.

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