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Week Ten Morning Aftermath: Vikings 27, Lions 10

With a week off and a 1-7 team coming to the Metrodome Mall of America Field, the Vikings should have completely dismantled the Detroit Lions.

Though the score suggests a blowout of sorts, it was anything but.  A string of mistakes, including 13 penalties, two fumbles, and a couple of questionable coaching decisions, kept the Vikings from generating a margin of 30 points or more.

And it actually gave the Lions a chance to win the thing.

At times, it seemed that the Vikings were trying too hard to get future opponents thinking about wrinkles that might be added in the future.  A double-reverse play, with Adrian Peterson sweeping left and flipping the ball to rookie receiver Percy Harvin, killed an early drive.  Later, the failure of Peterson to wrap up while being caught from behind by cornerback Philip Buchanon allowed the ball to be punched out, resulting in a halftime score of 10-3 instead of 17-0.

Detroit drives were extended by boneheaded penalties like offsides on a punt when the Vikings weren’t really trying to block the thing, and defensive end Ray Edwards launching himself like a makeshift scud missile into the head of Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford. 

Really, the game remained in doubt until the first play of the fourth quarter, when Brett Favre unfurled a 56-yard rainbow to receiver Sidney Rice, who caught the ball at the Detroit four and rolled into the end zone.  (It appeared that Rice wasn’t touched, but coach Brad Childress kept the red flag in his pocket.  We wish he’d get his contract extension already; maybe then he’d be less afraid of screwing something up.)

The star of the show was Rice, who had 201 yards receiving.  It prompted NFLN’s Deion Sanders to declare on GameDay Final, “Favre to Rice is starting to look like Montana to Rice.”

Though it remains to be seen whether Sidney Rice can play like Jerry Rice without Favre on the team (indeed, Sidney played more like Condoleezza Rice in the days pre-Brett), it’s working well for now — and will continue to do so for as long as Favre is a member of the team.
 
But if Favre’s first season in purple is going to extend into an 18th or 19th game, the Vikings need to learn how to reduce the blunders, and to deliver the knockout blow to bad teams long before the final 15 minutes of the game.

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  1. stopwhining says: Nov 16, 2009 4:03 PM

    Peterson flipping the ball to a man coming the other way only qualifies as a plain reverse, not a double reverse. If that guy actually caught the toss and then flipped it someone else coming back the original direction, then you’ve got a double reverse.

  2. Kevin from Philly says: Nov 16, 2009 4:04 PM

    Minny struggled against Detroit last year, too. Is it a mercy thing?

  3. HT says: Nov 16, 2009 4:06 PM

    FYI… The Metrodome was not renamed. The actual playing surface was named Mall of America Field, not the building itself. Don’t worry – the Twin Cities media has also messed this up.

  4. Tony says: Nov 16, 2009 4:06 PM

    First of all Ray Edwards play was a great play and the officials were wrong and later confirmed. Secondly it was a sloppy game for sure but never in question. Poor Stafford never had time to mount any offense and their only touchdown resulted from the Ray Edwards blown call.

  5. ewurm says: Nov 16, 2009 4:06 PM

    If Childress gets a contract extension, he’ll probably give one to Tarvaris Jackson and he’ll be the starting Quarterback next year. The fact that he couldn’t move the ball in garbage time versus the Lions and his past performance history indicate a return to mediocrity if that is the case. Childress is a horrible playcaller. The Vikings win despite having Brad Childress, not because of him. Anything less than a Super Bowl win is unacceptable.

  6. purpleguy says: Nov 16, 2009 4:06 PM

    Anyone who watched the game can’t realistically state that there was any doubt which team was going to win that game. Yet there were plenty of mistakes, which at least keeps them from getting complacent. The Saints game, against an equally crappy team, was just as close, yet everyone is still stroking Drew Brees’ privates. Whatever.

  7. CutlerISaPussy says: Nov 16, 2009 4:10 PM

    I wouldn’t call the penalty onEdwards boneheaded. I would however call Florio a douchebag.
    Play by Edwards was awesome and was just bad luck the helmets hit (they almost did not even touch though).

  8. casecat13 says: Nov 16, 2009 4:10 PM

    “Detroit drives were extended by boneheaded penalties like offsides on a punt when the Vikings weren’t really trying to block the thing, and defensive end Ray Edwards launching himself like a makeshift scud missile into the head of Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford.”
    Great play, NFL officials said there shouldn’t have been a flag on the play and it was clean…. Great play by Edwards, there was no helmet to helment contact…

  9. PervyHarvin says: Nov 16, 2009 4:11 PM

    I had some great points but forgot them all. Drank 3 cases of beer. Grew a beard. Waiting for a Viking story…..

  10. aloud2judge says: Nov 16, 2009 4:13 PM

    division games are usually tough, no matter the opponent.
    Minny played well and will start to dial it in in the upcoming weeks. We’ve only seen the beginning of what they can do. Wait until the get Winfield back and they’ll start shutting down the passing game just like the run.
    This team can beat you four ways (AP, Brett’s arm, Defense, and Harvin on special teams) and that is looking good for their future and fans.

  11. hackbart says: Nov 16, 2009 4:14 PM

    “…and a couple of questionable coaching decisions…”
    Chilly seems to make a goofy decision or three per game. But he’s either getting better or the talent level of his team hides it better. Still those kind of things can pork you in the playoffs.

  12. kjkluever says: Nov 16, 2009 4:17 PM

    Wow, you sure like to bag on the Vikings for not winning by 30+ in this game. Will you be as harsh on the Saints for allowing the Rams even a shot to win the game on a last second touch down.
    You have a lot of attitude for someone who picked the Redskins to win the NFC this year. Honestly, you should have to preface every post on your site with a disclaimer stating your pick at the beginning of the season.
    I mean Jason Campbell? Seriously? WTF? What has he ever done that made you think he could lead a team through the playoffs much less make it to the playoffs coming from the NFC East. Were you high?

  13. PerryMason says: Nov 16, 2009 4:17 PM

    # Kevin from Philly says: November 16, 2009 4:04 PM
    Minny struggled against Detroit last year, too. Is it a mercy thing?
    More of a Karma thing. Chicago and Green Bay run up the score on Detroit and then become losers themselves.

  14. Wiscdave says: Nov 16, 2009 4:18 PM

    Why so pissy? Did your panties ride up again?

  15. durno99 says: Nov 16, 2009 4:20 PM

    Extending Childress is an ABSOLUTE mistake. Again, the Vikings win inspite of coaching, not because of it. Double digit penalties! 4th and 1 Fullback up the middle, 3rd and 9 draw up the middle, no challenges when needed. It amazes me he is even a head coach. He speaks a good business language which Ziggy has bought into. But as for coaching and game/clock management, forget it. Please get rid of Childress and take Bevell with him. I often wonder what Mike Martz could do with this offense? With the weapons we have, one could only imagine………….

  16. joeybrowner says: Nov 16, 2009 4:21 PM

    ewurm: The reason why Tarvaris couldn’t move the ball is because Rice all of the sudden forgot how to catch the ball when Tarvaris entered the game.
    People have given up on Tarvaris too quickly. Childo should be blamed for throwing him in before he was ready. The guy has talent and much more upside post-Favre than Rosenfels.

  17. EasyDrinkingBuschLight says: Nov 16, 2009 4:21 PM

    “And it actually gave the Lions a chance to win the thing.”
    Just because the score was closer than it should have been, I don’t think a single person outside the Lions organization had a feeling that the Lions would pull off an upset. I’m a Vikings fan and have seen many a game dribble down the leg, and I never feel safe with any lead with them, but even I felt that game was just waiting to be broken open as soon as the Vikes could stop tripping over themselves for a series or two. That lone Lions TD shouldn’t have happened if the fumble had been ruled recovered by Allen like it should have been, or if Stafford doesn’t get that cheap flag on the Ray Edwards hit.

  18. Contra says: Nov 16, 2009 4:21 PM

    Wow…finally swallowed your pride to get the Vikings/Lions aftermath on here?
    Penalty on Ray Edwards was ridiculous! Yes, the offsides on punt return was boneheaded but Ray was making a play and a damn good one at that. Ref just has an itchy trigger finger…they all did.

  19. Chickenfoot says: Nov 16, 2009 4:23 PM

    ewurm says:
    November 16, 2009 4:06 PM
    If Childress gets a contract extension, he’ll probably give one to Tarvaris Jackson and he’ll be the starting Quarterback next year. The fact that he couldn’t move the ball in garbage time versus the Lions and his past performance history indicate a return to mediocrity if that is the case. Childress is a horrible playcaller. The Vikings win despite having Brad Childress, not because of him. Anything less than a Super Bowl win is unacceptable.
    ===================================
    So many things wrong with this post:
    Vikes weren’t trying to move the ball when Tjax was in there, he threw 1 pass that hit Rice in the hands, 2 running plays.
    Jackson isn’t a bad qb, he’s just no Favre.
    Childress doesn’t call the plays….Darrell Bevell does.
    Why is anything less than a Super bowl win unacceptable? To who ? you?
    You’ve proven you are a know nothing.
    All of a sudden ewurm says so , so it’s gospel?
    Do a bit of research before you post. You look like an asshole when you don’t.

  20. leatherneck says: Nov 16, 2009 4:26 PM

    The Vikings weren’t offsides on a punt. They were called for defensive delay of the game.
    AP did wrap up when Buchanon chased him down, but by then the ball had already been punched out by Buchanon.
    Ray Edwards didn’t launch himself at Stafford. Edwards was cut-blocked. Edwards jumped over the block. Edwards didn’t do the smart thing and put his hands in front of him. Instead, Edwards appeared to lead with his helmet. The personal foul penalty was questionable at best. Edwards had a very nice game.
    The Vikings do need to play better. They can play better.

  21. Twiz says: Nov 16, 2009 4:26 PM

    We waited over 24 hours for this crap?
    Should have known, Lord Florio points out all the mistakes made, makes ASSumptions proven not to be fact, didn’t even bother to watch highlights of the game, and doesn’t say a damn thing about the good things either team did.
    I’m beginning to wonder if his kid is writing this dribble instead of someone that claims to have a astute knowledge of football.
    The outcome of the game was never in question. The only questions of the entire game were if Peterson would top 200 yards and 3 touchdowns (only 133yds and 2 TD’s), if Rice would break the 210 yard record (only 201 yards), if Favre would throw for more than 350 yards (only 344) and if the Vikings would cover the 17pt spread (they matched it)

  22. MNFANINAZ says: Nov 16, 2009 4:31 PM

    Even childres cant stop this freight train from roling all the way to a Super bowl title, FINALLY!
    In Purple Jesus we trust
    thanks Brett!

  23. EPVIKES80 says: Nov 16, 2009 4:32 PM

    Florio has continued his Anti-Vikings sentiment…His comments are so off base that a 4 year old could have written this article. To call Ray Edwards Penalty a good call really shows how Florio’s football acumen is that of a idiot.
    If you watch the play over again, Ray Edwards had to leap over the cut block thrown by Mo Morris. He had no intention of launching himself into Stafford, and the referee’s flag was simply the wrong call.
    Favre had 344 passing yards, and peterson had around 130 in rushing yards, the vikings had a total of 63 plays, and 494 yards of Offense. THAT TO ME IS TOTAL DOMINATION.
    GET A CLUE FLORIO.

  24. purplepuzzyeatrz says: Nov 16, 2009 4:34 PM

    HORRIBLE POST!!!
    FLORIO!!!
    I often defend your writings, and feel you tell it like you see it ..SOMETIMES…but you could not have called this More INACCURATELY…This game was never in question. Be it a Sloppy, Vikings win…they Score 27 in a Bad Game….Completely dismantle Stafford, and there were 3 Huge missed calls.
    1. Horsecollar tackle on Peterson on the Touchback fumble.( +7 vikings
    2. Missed calvin johnson fumble(vikings possession (+3 to give benefit of doubt)
    3.Penalty on Ray Edwards (-7)
    Actual fianl score Vikings 37 Lions 3
    Give the Vikings the Proper Love
    They can beat any team in this league
    SuperBowl – Vikings 31 Patriots 17

  25. duffsbeer says: Nov 16, 2009 4:36 PM

    Agree with the winning in spite of Childress comment, disagree with the ray edwards bone headed move comment. That was a great athletic play to hurdle a 300 pound man lunging at him and take down the quarter back legally.
    The fact that the refs blew the call then later admitted by the NFL that it was a blown call does make it a bone headed play.
    However it was the lions, and AP still needs to secure the ball. He breaks into the secondary once or twice a game and now every DB and saftey that is scared of hitting him will instead try to cling to his back and punch the ball out instead.

  26. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 16, 2009 4:38 PM

    ” At times, it seemed that the Vikings were trying too hard to get future opponents thinking about wrinkles that might be added in the future. ”
    Really Florio ? Did you come up with that all on your own or did the Troy Aikman saying the same thing during the game give you the idea ?

  27. Der Bieso says: Nov 16, 2009 4:41 PM

    Somebody talk about the damn horse collar tackle on AP.
    I thought that was illegal.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrm35OVfM8I

  28. Fan_Of_ Four says: Nov 16, 2009 4:48 PM

    # purpleguy says: November 16, 2009 4:06 PM
    Anyone who watched the game can’t realistically state that there was any doubt which team was going to win that game. Yet there were plenty of mistakes, which at least keeps them from getting complacent. The Saints game, against an equally crappy team, was just as close, yet everyone is still stroking Drew Brees’ privates. Whatever.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Although they still won the Saints have went to the wire with more than one crappy Team.

  29. Vince says: Nov 16, 2009 4:48 PM

    Florio is such a hater. Keep on hating on the Vikes.. see you in the NFC championship

  30. purplepuzzyeatrz says: Nov 16, 2009 4:50 PM

    Interesting what was written about the Saints oh “holy Saints”…..barely beat the Rams a horrible team, yet it was writen by Florio, like they were just teasing with them…..Its pathetic.
    Read post in Saints Rams aftermath..I couldnt have defined it better than I did there……….
    SKOL

  31. leatherneck says: Nov 16, 2009 4:50 PM

    One other statistic: Stafford was hit 33 times.
    That’s a lot.

  32. Vikes-N-Favre says: Nov 16, 2009 4:51 PM

    A couple things here.
    1. The Vikings were coming off their bye week and looked a little rusty. That still didn’t prevent them from winning by a large margin. A 2 TD and a FG lead for a win is nothing to sneeze at.
    2. The officials should have called a horse collar tackle on Buchannon on the play where AD fumbled, but like always, they turned a blind eye to a penalty on the Vikings.
    3. The reason why Sidney Rice wasn’t productive the last two seasons is because of injuries, not because of lack of talent. The guy doesn’t have speed to burn, but he is a huge target, and has great hands.
    4. The Vikings are still a 8-1 team that is playing great football. We have won 2.5 of the 3.5 games that Winfield missed, and his presence in the starting lineup once he returns will be like making a huge trade for the rest of the season. The tackling will be much improved, and the coverage will be greatly improved. This team is making some noise, and its about time the rest of you haters admit it for once.
    Favre 4 MVP.
    Skol Vikes!!!!

  33. akuehn713 says: Nov 16, 2009 5:03 PM

    Even if the Ray Edwards hit wasn’t helmet to helmet, it is still illegal to launch yourself into the quarterback. And for all you asshat Vikqueens fans that are crying about missed calls and fake penalties try these two on for size.
    Sidney Rice pushed off on all of his deep catches, got flagged 0 times.
    NFL rules clearly state that a player cannot go to the ground to celebrate. Jared Allen goes to one knee for his lame ass sack dance and he has NEVER been flagged for it. So in the 2 Packer games alone he racked up 112.5 yards in uncalled penalties.

  34. CutlerISaPussy says: Nov 16, 2009 5:04 PM

    Right on Chickenfoot. I love these guys (i.e. eworm) that say anything short of a superbowl is unacceptable. Should every other coach besides the superbowl winner get canned? What a dumb statement.

  35. JimmySmith says: Nov 16, 2009 5:07 PM

    What does it say about the owner’s state of mind when his team goes 8-1 and he refuses to give Chilly a 5 or 10 year contract extension?
    Could it be he realizes that despite Chilly’s alleged claims of lifetime membership in the Mensa Society that he has his doubts? Boneheaded calls, unimaginative playcalling, and cross dressing tendencies are usually not associated with hoisting the Lombardi trophy.
    But don’t let logic or common sense stop the BIQUEEN fans from booking their reservations for Miami. And for good reason, the weather down there is much better than the Twin Cities that time of year.

  36. jk7761 says: Nov 16, 2009 5:22 PM

    ” At times, it seemed that the Vikings were trying too hard to get future opponents thinking about wrinkles that might be added in the future. “Chili has made numerous comments regarding ‘giving opponents plays on film to prepare for.
    You are correct on this Florio.
    I too want clarification on the horse-collar.
    The Edwards hit in real time looked like a helmet hit. Speaks to the idea of refs calling what they see, not want they ‘think’ they see.

  37. MasterShake says: Nov 16, 2009 5:26 PM

    The star of the show was Rice, who had 201 yards receiving. It prompted NFLN’s Deion Sanders to declare on GameDay Final, “Favre to Rice is starting to look like Montana to Rice.”
    Followed by:
    “pay the man”.

  38. danlinker says: Nov 16, 2009 5:27 PM

    Wow Florio, I don’t need to add a thing to the previous posts on here. You’re really (deservedly) getting your butt kicked by a lot of fans on this biased post. Great job.

  39. Jimmy Smith and Bob Nelson are IDIOTS says: Nov 16, 2009 5:27 PM

    # Fan_Of_ Four says: November 16, 2009 4:38 PM
    ” At times, it seemed that the Vikings were trying too hard to get future opponents thinking about wrinkles that might be added in the future. ”
    Really Florio ? Did you come up with that all on your own or did the Troy Aikman saying the same thing during the game give you the idea ?
    I’m all for ripping on Florio but Aikman did the Cowboys/ Packers game.

  40. grannyvi says: Nov 16, 2009 5:30 PM

    Wow, Florio. What is your problem with the Vikings? Seriously.
    First of all, the game was at noon yesterday and we had to wade through all the other afternoon AND evening games before you finally post anything about the Minnesota game. What is that all about?
    And there were at least as many bone-headed calls by the refs and there were mistakes by the Vikes. Rice wasn’t touched when he rolled into the endzone, Ray Edwards didn’t lead with his helmet, and Allen recovered the fumble on the sidelines. Talk about bone-headed calls.
    And, as one poster pointed out…I didn’t see any negative posts about NO letting the lowly Rams stay in the game. Oh, and how about them Pats, huh? Still loving them, are you?
    Seems like you’ve gotten worse since Favre joined the Vikes. Granted, I couldn’t stand the guy…ever! But even I have to admit that we’re winning games this year that we would have lost in years past because of Favre (you have no idea how hard that is for me to say). I still think he gets way too much credit (i.e., the last-second pass against SF — the receiver deserved all the credit, but a person hardly heard his name.) It was — and remains — all about Favre, and that still bugs the crap out of me. People need to realize he’s got a great supporting cast to help him look good.
    Back to the topic at hand — your bias is showing more and more every week, and it’s really getting old. Get Rosenthal to write about the Vikes. Maybe he’ll at least be objective.

  41. Bee_Arthur says: Nov 16, 2009 5:40 PM

    VIKINGS FANS – Florio isn’t bagging the quality of the team- He’s bagging the stupid coach. This game SHOULD have been won by 40 points.
    Childress always screwing around trying to show people in the league he can win without using AP. The 8-1 record is a product of the talent, not the coaching – as was mentioned by several others. When the Vikings do get to the playoffs and have to face some teams that are equally talented, the flaws in the coaching are going to be exposed.
    If you watch the games you’ll see that Peterson never sees open holes in Chilly’s running schemes — he the only yardage he ever gets is on long runs that HE makes himself on cutbacks. Chester Taylor (2.7 YPA) continues to get carries for almost no reason, when AP is averaging over 5. In the receiving department Peterson has 21-199-9.5 AVG and Taylor 25-216-8.6 AVG, but yet Peterson always seems to need to come off the field on third down. If it’s because he doesn’t know how to block they should have been able to COACH him to do it by now.
    Personally, I’d like to see a guy like Shanahan come in and make Peterson into the player he could be. With the things he did all those years in Denver with RB’s who had half the ability of Peterson we’d see him rush for 2000 yards every year, but alas I think that Childress has got the wool pulled over Wilf’s eyes and he’ll be back next year after losing in the NFC Championship game.

  42. PervyHarvin says: Nov 16, 2009 5:49 PM

    Florio is just mad at the sloppy play and mistakes just as I was yesterday. We looked great at times also. Just need to clean up the garbage mistakes.For the record,Florio is a Vikings fan. True.

  43. Fire Ted says: Nov 16, 2009 6:04 PM

    To say the Patriots would put up only 17 points shows how stupid you are. Put down the Star Trib, put down the purple koolaid, beat a playoff team (something MN has yet to do this year) and then pray, PRAY that SOMEHOW you don’t have to play at the Superdome (which you will, by the way, should you win at home, something you couldn’t do last year) baby steps, Vikings fans..your team hasn’t won anything yet and just like 98 when you thought you were in the show, Morten Anderson misses a kick Florio could have made. Effing hilarious.

  44. Bob Nelson says: Nov 16, 2009 6:07 PM

    Brad Childress should be signed to a 20 year contract extension. Just look at his record before Brett Favre arrived!
    Perhaps Childress can work out a trade, Brett Favre for Vince Young. That will show people how smart he is!!

  45. Bee_Arthur says: Nov 16, 2009 6:23 PM

    @ Fire Ted
    … It was Gary Anderson who missed the kick. Ass.

  46. Waffle says: Nov 16, 2009 6:35 PM

    Florio – You probably got this one almost right, but a win is a win is a win. The Lions are a scrappy team, and they’re going to win a couple more games before this season is over. As for people commenting that Childress is responsible for some boneheaded off-sides call on a punt or AP not wrapping up on what would have been a touchdown run, that’s ridiculous. Coaches coach. Players make plays. These are professional football players, and they need to have their head in the game. I see it as a very good omen that the Vikings emerged from this divisional challenge 8-1 and 4-0 in the Division. They could have gone the way of Atlanta or Denver, who both seemed somewhat invincible a few weeks ago. But, they didn’t. They won handily, and the outcome was never in doubt. Did they really need to pad the score?

  47. launcher says: Nov 16, 2009 6:43 PM

    I’m a huge Vikes fan, but you Vikes fans that are already predicting a super bowl win need to shut the hell up. Root for your team but don’t make us all look like total homer jackasses…

  48. Twiz says: Nov 16, 2009 6:46 PM

    @Fire Ted
    Thanks for showing your complete lack of football knowledge.
    1) It was Gary Anderson that missed that kick, his ONLY one of the season
    2) You say the Vikes need to beat a playoff team, I can agree with that, but tell me this…..what playoff team have the Saints beat this year? Maybe if they can beat the Patriots in a couple weeks you can talk, but until then, STFU!

  49. DocBG says: Nov 16, 2009 6:54 PM

    @dbag nelson – as has been said before, chilly won’t be a truly great coach untill he runs the 16 year face of the franchise out of town, starts using our defensive lineman as linebackers, and puts our place kickers on the offensive line, then we should be set, right?
    @jimmysmith – there are expectations for the vikes to make a good run this year, but a majority of viking fans are not thinking miami quite yet, unlike some of the dumber packer fans (sorry for the unneccesary redundency there) that had rooms booked after the preseason. you dbag nelson should come up from your parents basements a little more often and see how actual people behave.
    @akuehn713 – what push offs are you talking about? i didn’t see a thing, and allen’s celebration of crushing opposing OT’s isn’t going to the ground in the sense that the rule is written. But I suppose you can’t bitch about the vikes being worse than your team can ya now? continue being a prick as long as you like, society is waiting when you’re ready douchbag.
    Vikes will beat SEA and CHI, and have a shot at winning out the season, even if it doesnt happen, you are still looking at your 2009 NFC North Divison Champions

  50. EasyDrinkingBuschLight says: Nov 16, 2009 6:55 PM

    More Packer fans trying to tear down the Purple because their own sorry ass team isn’t worth watching. They’re just pissed because without Favre to cover their talent-deficiencies they can’t get it done anymore.
    I don’t think Packer fans have any reason to be talking smack when they are struggling to keep their head above water and snag a 6 seed in the playoffs.
    Hey FireTed, you realize you just tried to rag on the Vikings because they *might* have the #2 seed instead of the #1 seed? Wow, you look like a real chump. And about the ’98 NFC Championship, don’t forget your team has done nothing but trend downwards since you fell apart in your own NFC championship game. Talk about idiocy.

  51. Twiz says: Nov 16, 2009 7:01 PM

    Ya know, thinking about it, Lord Florio’s lack of posting ANYTHING regarding a Vikings story until over 24 hours post game proves a couple things……
    1) He doesn’t need the site hits this week. He knows all he has to do is put Vikings and/or Favre in the title and the hits just accumulate.
    2) Lord Florio has proven just how biased he is not only toward the Vikings, but to many other teams. Yes, I know it is “his” blog, but if he wants to show constant bias, I think NBC needs to quit touting the site on their Sat college games and during Sunday Night Football…..
    anyone disagree?

  52. bovice23 says: Nov 16, 2009 7:53 PM

    Florio, stick to making up stories and give up analyzing games. Every week you try and every week you look foolish, its really pathetic.

  53. Vikingsfaninpa says: Nov 16, 2009 7:55 PM

    What is with all the Chili trash talk.
    Does anyone remember what the Vikings organization was like when he took over. refresher; love boat, culpepper. moss attitude never addressed by coach or owner, the whining and complaining by players publicly. 0 discipline.
    Since Chili and Wilf have been there we had 3 guys with dui, and 2 with diuretic issue. but other wise he has improved this organization from top to bottom. He has made the playoffs with a less than mediocre QB Gus FerRot. And was able to be relevant in the previous 2 seasons.
    As far as play calling if calling the plays he calls or planning the game plans he plans gets you to 8-1 I will take it. Chili does not put it all on the line every play. But I have seen him open it up more since the addition of Favre, Conservative play calling has been responsible for 7 of the last 9 Superbowl wins and the wins leading up to the Superbowl. True if you dont open it up a bit more at times you may come up short.
    I do think the last 3 years he called plays and game planned for a less talented QB. And did not trust the qb to make big plays. Dilfer won a Superbowl playing like that.
    At 8-1I think the success the Vikes are having is proof that Chili has done a good job but lacked a solid QB.
    I dont pretend to believe he is the best in the business but I think he has been a success and the Vikes could have done much worse.
    There are alot of coaches Cower, Dungy, Parcells, Billicheck, Gibbs, Andy Reid, Holmgren, did not always have dominating seasons and it took them a few seasons to get the team where it needed to be. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 then won 2 Superbowls. big thanks to then owner and GM of the Vikes, but none the less once he had a solid QB he had success. One of the best influences for a team is consistency in coaching staff.

  54. Vikes-N-Favre says: Nov 16, 2009 7:59 PM

    # akuehn713 says: November 16, 2009 5:03 PM
    Even if the Ray Edwards hit wasn’t helmet to helmet, it is still illegal to launch yourself into the quarterback. And for all you asshat Vikqueens fans that are crying about missed calls and fake penalties try these two on for size.
    Sidney Rice pushed off on all of his deep catches, got flagged 0 times.
    NFL rules clearly state that a player cannot go to the ground to celebrate. Jared Allen goes to one knee for his lame ass sack dance and he has NEVER been flagged for it. So in the 2 Packer games alone he racked up 112.5 yards in uncalled penalties.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    This coming from a PacQueer fan whose WR’s push off all the time, and whose CB (Al Hairyass) either grabs a facemask, or goes for the knees of anyone he is tackling? He grabbed another facemask yesterday and didn’t get called, so screw you and your whining about penalties.
    Ray Edwards had to launch dumbass otherwise he would have been hit in the knees. I would rather him take the penalty there versus being lost for the season.
    Also, if a player can’t go to the ground to celebrate then they shouldn’t be able to jump into the stands and get their asses rubbed by the male fans either like you gay ass Packer team does. Taking a knee isn’t considered going to the ground in case your incompetent ass can’t understand that. So as soon as your team doesn’t get special treatment like they have for the past 15 years, don’t whine about other teams. Stop being jealous because the Vikings are the better team, and your former QB is having a career year as a Viking. Obviously that just goes to show that he is enjoying his time more here then he ever did in GB, and he has better talent around him now.

  55. PervyHarvin says: Nov 16, 2009 8:12 PM

    @ FireTed – I schooled you once about why the Vikings don’t fear the Saints. Like a child,you just couldn’t learn could you? I’m done explaining. You flunk tool.

  56. Vikes-N-Favre says: Nov 16, 2009 8:47 PM

    For you PackQueer fans that say the Vikings haven’t beaten anyone, here is a thought for you.
    1. When the season was underway, SF was picked as a favorite in the NFC. Did we beat them? Yes we did.
    2. When the season was underway, Baltimore was picked as a favorite in the AFC. Did we beat them? Yes we did.
    3. The Steelers are the defending SB champions and had it not been for a bullshit tripping penalty on Dugan, we beat them as well. That was our only loss.
    4. Also, GB at the start of the season was picked by damn near everyone under the sun to win the NFC North, and we swept their pathetic asses this year where Brett just happened to be NFC Player of the week after each game. Not to mention that we absolutely destroyed that cross eyed QB of yours in both games.
    The fact of the matter is this, the Vikings can beat any team in the NFL if they are playing up to their standards. Does that mean I am predicting a SB? No, but they have just as good of a chance to get there and win it as any of the top NFC or AFC teams do. The Vikings are a solid football team. 3 of the 4 on our DL on Pro Bowlers, and Winfield in our secondary is a Pro Bowler as well. We have the best RB in the NFL, a QB who is having a career year, a TE who is emerging as a great threat, a WR who is starting to turn heads, and a WR/Return man who has made our offense and special teams more explosive. The Vikings haven’t even peaked yet, and the rest of the NFL teams better hope that they never do.

  57. MNFANINAZ says: Nov 16, 2009 10:45 PM

    “Super Bowl, Homeboy”

  58. man without shoes says: Nov 17, 2009 1:08 AM

    @Twiz
    The Saints beat the Eagles, Falcons and Giants this year. Chances are one of them might make the playoffs. All three of them did last year.
    Then again, the Ravens (and maybe even the Packers, if you ask their fans) might make the playoffs, as well. Hard to say at this point.

  59. chickenfootishunglikeachicken says: Nov 17, 2009 1:51 AM

    dikes n favre, the fact is bla bla bla. how about you check your opinion at the door when you start saying fact this and fact that. let me throw you a bone to chew on…….. THE FACT IS THE VIKINGS HAVE NEVER WON ANYTHING THAT COUNTED. congrats, you beet the packers twice this year. what does that mean? not sh%t unless the vikings break their illustrious history and finally win a championship. let me remind you trent dilfer won a superbowl. the fact is when the vikings finally face a veteran quarterback he will pick them apart. you have faced virtually no experience at the leader position other than big ben. peyton would put up 50+ on your defense. brady as well. brees is no doubt licking his chops thinking about the possibility of playing the choke-kings at home in the playoffs. eat it

  60. Tompadre says: Nov 17, 2009 4:43 AM

    The Lions actually had a chance to win? Wow, I must have missed that, and I watched the entire game.
    True, the Vikings weren’t very good Sunday in many of the areas they’ve excelled at this year – 3rd conversion, redzone scoring, low number of penalties & turnovers. However, despite leaving a bunch of points on the field, they still managed to rack up nearly 500 yards of offense, held a team to 10 measly points and won by more than two TDs.
    While I understand the draw play at the nine and the Dugan run on 4th and inches were done to catch the Lions off guard, and the gadget plays are to give future opponents something to game plan for, I think the Vikings got a little too clever at a time when they hadn’t played a game for two weeks.
    Bottom line is they were expected to win big and they did.

  61. Tompadre says: Nov 17, 2009 4:52 AM

    @ akuehn –
    The Edwards penalty was declared a bad call by the NFL. Sorry!
    What are you looking at with your Rice claims? I know the announcers screamed about Rice pushing of on his first big catch, but the replays showed he didn’t do anything different than what most receivers in the league do when jockeying for position. The last one he simply ran past the guy.
    If you don’t like a team – fine, more power to you. But to make stuff up in an effort to belittle that team is, well…sad.

  62. Tompadre says: Nov 17, 2009 5:27 AM

    Sorry for so many posts in a row gang, but I’m working and I had a little down time at lunch.
    Florio & the Pack fans rip the Vikings for the weak opponents they’ve faced and for not winning by an acceptable amount, yet they don’t hold New Orleans or Indy to the same standards and laud them instead. New Orleans loses this past Sunday to a lousy St Louis team if that last pass to the endzone is completed (now St Louis was a team that actually had a chance to win) and they beat the Lions by 18, or by one more than the Vikings just did. Indy hadn’t faced a team with a winning record at the time they played them until their 8th opponent – Houston. They beat Jacksonville by 2, Miami by 4, San Fran by 4 and Houston by 3, with three of those games at home. Now that is ripping it up!
    Conversly, the Vikings have played five games against teams with a winning record at the time they played them, winning four and had a chance in the one they lost. They’ve held a 12 point lead or greater in the fourth quarter in seven of the nine games they’ve played. Sure the Vikings could have scored 40 or more against Detroit, but they still one by 17. Geesh!!

  63. Tompadre says: Nov 17, 2009 5:55 AM

    Fire Ted –
    “beat a playoff team”
    Well, um, there was the Baltimore game. I think they even made it to the AFC Championship game last year if I’m not mistaken. And the Vikings beat a team that was in the NFC Championship game two years ago, twice as a matter of fact, maybe you’ve heard of them – the Green Bay Packers.
    Ohhh, maybe you meant for this year. Well if you have knowledge of who definately will be playing after week 17 please share. I could use the info to make some extra cash. I suppose NO & Indy would be on your list, but what if Manning & Brees get knocked out for the year in the next game?
    Teams such as Baltimore, Atlanta, Philadelphia, NY Jets, Denver and even San Fran have been touted at some point in the season as playoff teams, as well as Green Bay, Chicago & Seattle before the season. Not so much now. Just take a look at the Giants. Off to a 5-0 start they were the kings of the NFC, then came the 4 game losing streak and suddenly they weren’t going to make the cut. Now after Philly & Dallas take a powder New York is back in the running.
    The Vikings don’t make the schedule, they just play it. So far they’ve played quite well against the teams that have been lined up in front of them. I have no reason to suspect they won’t continue to do so and win their fare share of games, but we’ll just have to see.
    It must be agonizing to watch the Pack get slapped around twice by the team so many of your fans refer to as the Queens.

  64. Tompadre says: Nov 17, 2009 6:00 AM

    DocBG, Vikingsfaninpa & Vikes-N-Favre,
    To all of you – nicely put!

  65. chickenfootishunglikeachicken says: Nov 17, 2009 8:22 AM

    tompadre, you often make some valid points but for anyone to say seattle was a playoff team this year must not have followed the seahawks in the last two years. they had the fifth overall pick. no one, not even the faithful home crowd ever expects their team to pick in the top five and make the playoffs that year. you don’t go from the fifth worst team in football to a playoff team the next year. quit making things up to make yourself and your purple penis eaters (why was that not one of the choices to name the vikings defensive line on sunday) look better.

  66. Chickenfoot says: Nov 17, 2009 9:29 AM

    chickenfootishunglikeachicken
    purple penis eaters
    =================================
    Looks like someone has a fixation with the male anatomy……or has a small one.
    Make the team look better? I think 8-1 says all it needs to say.
    Seattle was hyped as a team that could make a move in the preseason, just because of the division they are in.
    Add to that the fact that,
    Hasselback had a back injury most of last year and they picked up whoseyourmomma.
    Your lack of knowledge is surpassed only by your lust and fascination for penis.
    Hey, by the way, thanks for including my name in your screen name, you think that is an insult?
    It isn’t. That I have pissed you off so badly that you feel the need to do that, really makes my day.
    My goal is to piss off know nothings like you, to help you look dumber than you already do.
    You my sexually confused freind, don’t need to much help.
    With every post, you broadcast your stupidity to the masses. Nice job asshat!

  67. Vikes Fan in CT says: Nov 17, 2009 9:40 AM

    Yes. It was a sloppy game by the Vikes, but I don’t think the outcome was ever really in question. Despite their mistakes, they put up 27 points and won by 17. Last time I checked that’s pretty convincing. Sure, they could have won by more, especially if they left their starters in, like the Patriots, but they do the smart thing and get their starters out. They understand that it’s about winning the game and doesn’t matter by how much.
    I’m also convinced that the people trashing Childress made up their mind a long time ago that they don’t like him, search for, and point out everything they can to “show” they are right. Is he perfect? Of course not. However, to say the Vikings win in spite of him is ridiculous. They win because they have great talent, prepare well during the week, and do what they need to on Sunday. The head coach has allot to do with it. They are 8-1. Give the man some credit.

  68. Bigskyvikes says: Nov 17, 2009 11:59 AM

    Fire Ted says:
    November 16, 2009 6:04 PM
    To say the Patriots would put up only 17 points shows how stupid you are. Put down the Star Trib, put down the purple koolaid, beat a playoff team (something MN has yet to do this year) and then pray, PRAY that SOMEHOW you don’t have to play at the Superdome (which you will, by the way, should you win at home, something you couldn’t do last year) baby steps, Vikings fans..your team hasn’t won anything yet and just like 98 when you thought you were in the show, Morten Anderson misses a kick Florio could have made. Effing hilarious.
    What a bitter, bitter fan of a shi##y team.
    Keep living in the past little child, because all them stats prove that it will happen again, right?
    What a tool.
    THIS IS OUR YEAR!!
    THIS IS OUR YEAR!!

  69. Bigskyvikes says: Nov 17, 2009 12:03 PM

    launcher says:
    November 16, 2009 6:43 PM
    I’m a huge Vikes fan, but you Vikes fans that are already predicting a super bowl win need to shut the hell up. Root for your team but don’t make us all look like total homer jackasses…
    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
    If you are a fan, than what do you want them to do, if you cheer for a Superbowl, will that jinx them?
    Sorry I dont live with superstition, you should get help.
    Quit lying and saying your a vikes fan. We all know your a fudgie fan in disquise.

  70. Tompadre says: Nov 17, 2009 12:27 PM

    fake chicken –
    “you don’t go from the fifth worst team in football to a playoff team the next year.”
    Then someone better give the 1999 Rams a call and tell them to return their Lombardi trophy for winning it all! Afterall, they were a lousy 4-12 in 1998 and tied for the second worse record in the league (three teams @ 3-13 & three @ 4-12). FAKE CHICKEN HAS DECLARED IT CAN”T BE DONE! And just so you don’t think ’98 was an abnormally bad year for the Rams and they simply were bouncing back in ’99, they were 5-11 in ’97 & 6-10 in ’96.
    To the real Chickenfoot –
    Exactly! People thought the Seahawks had a chance at the division title because they were devastated by injuries the previous year, added TJ Housh, had a good draft & the NFC West was/is considered weak. Thanks man.
    Besides, I never said prognosticators knew what they were talking about. That was sorta one of my points.

  71. jetboy says: Nov 17, 2009 12:47 PM

    Bigsky.. your funny as hell!
    Hey FIRE TED…. Your right! “beat a playoff team (something MN has yet to do this year)” The SLACKERS, Bears and Lions will not make the playoffs…
    Bigsky,
    I still remember packer fans this summer cocking off about winning the division this year…. how do I know, I live 20 miles from Lambeau and still fly the Purple in front of my house….
    No matter what happens to the Vikes this year.. Thanks for Farve Teddy boy!

  72. PurpleRaid12 says: Nov 17, 2009 1:23 PM

    fakechicken,
    “congrats you beat the Packers twice, what does that mean, not shit”
    You are probably the biggest nut job on this site second only to JimmySmith, what do you mean that doesn’t mean shit? That means this years “shitty” Vikings kicked the “stellar” Packers ass all over their own field with that “HORRIBLE” secondary. “The Vikings never have won when it counts”. As opposed to the Packers winning a super bowl 13 years ago means anything? and before that nothing for 30 years? Teams change every year, the 98 Vikings aren’t the 72 Vikings, nor are the 68 Vikings the 09 Vikings. To say that the Vikings (as if they are all the same team members from 1961-present) never won anything that counts, is complete and utter horse shit, Thats like saying the Rams are far more talented than this years Vikings because they won a Super Bowl. FANTASTIC LOGIC! Better luck next year Sacker fans.

  73. Supersuckers says: Nov 17, 2009 1:26 PM

    jetboy,
    Thompson didn’t give you Favre. Tannenbaum did. I am embarrased for you for your lack of knowledge on the arrival of Brett Favre to Minneapolis.

  74. chickenfootishunglikeachicken says: Nov 17, 2009 3:15 PM

    tompadre, i did not say it cannot be done. check my posting. i said anyone with half a brain would not expect it to happen. no one has expectations that high. did the rams expect to win their division let alone the superbowl, no and you are an absolute moron if you think so. they got a steal of a hall of famer in marshall faulk (i believe for a fourth round pick, someone correct me if i’m wrong) and a diamond in the rough in inevitable hall of famer kurt warner (only after trent green went down for the season). surely, the seahawks did not expect to pick up a hand full of mvp’s and 2 hall of famers now did they?
    purple raid 12, i did not say that this group of players was the 98 vikings or the 72 vikings…….. did i? no i did not. i said that the vikings organization is a group of chokers. how can you deny that? they get to the big game and…………. yep, they blow it. hell they haven’t even been to the big dance in what? 30+ years. 98……… gary anderson misses and you go home without even getting a sniff at the ravens. 2000 was the shalacking by the giants……. 41-0. remember that? your agrument that the packers have not been anywhere in 13 years is moot. ask any fan out there, what would he or she rather have….. 3 rings and countless championships before that or 0-4 in attempts. by your logic still, 4 trips to the nfc championship in the last 15 years are not better than two? true, the packers haven’t been to the big dance in 13 years…… where have the vikings been? exactly

  75. Chickenfoot says: Nov 17, 2009 4:18 PM

    Hung like a chicken:
    71 73 74 76 :
    players that were on those teams nearing 70 years old . Owners: Max Winter group.
    Vikings favored in 1 Super bowl out of 4.
    Hard to say they choked in all 4 when they were expected to get beat.
    98 and 00 teams. 11 years and 9 years removed from 09 team. Kleinsasser only link to that team still on team. Owner : Mccombs.
    Choked against the falcons because of Green’s coaching. Giants favored in 00.
    2 games they should have won ” by the odds” in
    48 years of existence.
    Wow, really, they are choke artists.
    Now what all those teams have to do with 09, is beyond me.
    Ask any fan out there if they give a shit about 42 years ago when the 09 season is going on.
    I think anybody would want to win THIS year than get semi wood about trophies that were won before they were even born,
    SO, my tiresome , sexually confused, asshat.
    Why don’t you digitally manipulate your sphincter, and pretend it’s Arod, ok.

  76. Supersuckers says: Nov 17, 2009 10:16 PM

    Chicken,
    Do the Vikings have the funds to construct a trophy case for the mid season 2nd seed trophy in the NFC?

  77. PurpleRaid12 says: Nov 17, 2009 10:20 PM

    Thank you Chickenfoot
    I guess the Chickendick guy still doesn’t understand that “the organization” from 1961 til now is different too, what an idiot. It’s people like that you want to punch in the face.

  78. Supersuckers says: Nov 17, 2009 10:29 PM

    well chicken if a certain 38 yard field goal is made its moot. Wouldnt be discussing Greens hindsight “failures”

  79. Chickenfoot says: Nov 17, 2009 10:33 PM

    Super, really?
    That some sort of attempt at humor?
    Pissing on a team that is virtually 4 games ahead of you in the standings?
    Oh I forgot, you finally won a game, so now ” they are back in the play off hunt”….gotta love the scoreboard watching going on of the GB faithful.
    No wasy in hell the Pack makes the playoffs.
    So sayeth the sheperd, so sayeth the flock!!

  80. Tompadre says: Nov 18, 2009 5:58 AM

    fakechicken –
    Your quote that I re-posted was taken in its entirety. It was your fourth sentence. To claim “you don’t go” and “it cannot be done” don’t carry the same meaning is just semantics. I would explain what that word means, but I realize it will just go over your head, as does most of the logic on this blog. Sort of like how you don’t understand a teams distant past doesn’t dictate it’s immediate future. Using your logic the Packers would never have won the SB with Favre after three decades of mediocre (at best) football.
    As for the Seahawks, I’ll type this slowly as I’m sure that is how you are reading it. There were in fact football prognosticators who thought Seattle would bounce back (I listed the reasons in my post above) and make the playoffs. I didn’t say I agreed with them, just that some actually thought it would happen.
    Super –
    When we finish the trophy case we’ll even let you guys put your pre-season champs trophy in there too!

  81. Chickenfoot says: Nov 18, 2009 8:48 AM

    Super:..You are an idiot. It shouldn’t have come down to that kick and you know it.
    If you want to play dumb, go right ahead.
    Inside their own 20 at the end of the 1st half and not sitting on the ball with under 2 minutes left?
    Fumble. Falcons score. HUGE momentum shift.
    Your arrogance is irritating, you do know that, right?

  82. Supersuckers says: Nov 18, 2009 1:53 PM

    Tompadre
    Gb was 3-1 in the preseason. Now I know nothing. But I do think there was a undefeated preseason team that would stake claim to your mythical pre season trophy. I have never said anything that dumb.
    Chicken,
    If you are getting annoyed you may be taking this PFT site too seriously.

  83. Supersuckers says: Nov 18, 2009 1:55 PM

    They never left the plaoff hunt. My posts have simply been defending my position of the season wasn’t over after a loss at Tampa. I am not boasting about one win. Never have. You may be putting words in my mouth.

  84. Chickenfoot says: Nov 18, 2009 2:56 PM

    Not annoyed, just don’t care for the smarmy way your writing seems to come across, like this Vikings team doesn’t have the “regal bearing” of the Packers title team.
    How do you know? You think you know, but you don’t know. I know that you know that you don’t know, do you know that you don’t know? I don’t know. :)

  85. Supersuckers says: Nov 18, 2009 3:17 PM

    I know nothing. But you can’t compare the two. I mean you can but why? Why not compare the SAints or Colts? To me, and I am a idiot, its irrelevant.

  86. Chickenfoot says: Nov 18, 2009 4:33 PM

    Agreed, you are an idiot.
    Case closed.

  87. Tompadre says: Nov 18, 2009 7:08 PM

    Super –
    I was’t referring to the Pack’s pre-season record, just as I assumed you weren’t referring to the Vikings mid-season record, afterall I think there are a couple of teams with better records than the Vikes right now as well. I was referring to all of the Pack fans and their “we’re so great comments coming out of pre-season, just as I assume your remark was directed at the same type of banter coming from the Vikings fans now.

  88. Supersuckers says: Nov 18, 2009 9:53 PM

    I will not pretend to know what is going to happen because I am a football idiot. Ask Chickenfoot. He knows I am a football idiot and there is a LOOOONG way to go. We know nothing. Pre season means nothing as there is no game planning. But I acknowledge I know nothing and will not give up on the Pack until someone with credentials or MATH tells me otherwise. The credential portion of that statement includes you all (as well as I).

  89. Supersuckers says: Nov 18, 2009 10:15 PM

    Chicken,
    I could not be more of a football idiot. I am completely clueless when it comes to the NFL. I concede. I always have been. I am anxiously awaiting yours and everyone else’s reasoning as to why their opinoins mean anything. (Because mine do not) I would like someone with insight to post as to why I should give up on the 2009 Green Bay Packers. My gut feeling is no one on THIS site will have such insight. It seems to be a bunch of know nothing Shit talkers. Anyone can do that.

  90. J.Cannon says: Nov 18, 2009 11:13 PM

    This team always struggles ainst Detroit. But lets be honest Detroit was never really in this game. They never once took a shot downfield with Calvin Johnson (who is very much overated) and instead opted to throw screens on third and long time fter time. This team plays not to get embaresed by too much instead of playing to win. The Viking’s will lean up the mistakes. I for one am not worried. Skol.

  91. Tompadre says: Nov 18, 2009 11:34 PM

    Super –
    I haven’t, nor would I ever deny anyone to root for their team as long and passionately as they choose. In fact, after a team is eliminated, the fans can root for a good draft. I know this well, as the Vikings have had some lean years recently. But why do Packer fans get after Viking fans for doing the very same thing you wish people would allow you to do in peace – root for your team?
    By the way Pack fans – nice win on Sunday. Don’t think the Cowboys are an elite team, but they are in the mix at the next tier and they were hot. The tough part is it just made up for the TB debacle instead of giving you a huge boost. There’s a lot of games left to be played, should be fun.

  92. Chickenfoot says: Nov 19, 2009 8:33 AM

    Super. You aren’t an idiot. You just have unrealistic expectations for the Packers. They are a .500 team. Your steadfast stubborness to admit that make me question your knowledge sometimes.

  93. TheHydraPart6 says: Nov 19, 2009 9:06 AM

    Chicken,
    i am a know nothing. I accept that. But so are you. For me to take your opinion of they are a 500 team and just accept it I will not do. Why? Because like me you know nothing. I have no idea what will happen and neither do you. You know nothing (as do I) so what you say isn’t going to change my mind and suddenly say “well chickenfoot says they are a 500 team so…” Again why? Because you do not have a clue what you are looking at or talking about in reality. (neither do I) so i will stay interested. You know how to talk shit (so do I and everyone else on here) but if any of us knew anything we wouldnt be on here. Your opinions (as are mine) are worth nothing and are based on loose observations on the tv. Not game tape. We watch the ball. We dont watch anything else.

  94. TheHydraPart6 says: Nov 19, 2009 9:07 AM

    Expectations? They are right on pace. If the season ended today (which it doesn’t i realize) they would be in the tournament.

  95. Supersuckers says: Nov 19, 2009 9:26 AM

    And no I am not Hydra. Fix that PFT. My post got labeled under that assclowns name.

  96. Tompadre says: Nov 19, 2009 10:34 AM

    Super –
    Are you sure? On Monday I saw on TV and later on a website that the Pack would be on the outside looking in if the season were to end today. Not that it really matters at this point.

  97. Chickenfoot says: Nov 19, 2009 11:11 AM

    Yeah Hydra/Super:
    They are #7 only 6 teams go.
    Im suprised you didn’t know that, but as you say, you ARE a know nothing.

  98. Supersuckers says: Nov 19, 2009 11:47 AM

    That is correct I am a know nothing but I know how to read. The tie-breaker goes down to common opponents in which there must be a minimum of four. Since the season is so young and there is so much time left we havent reached the 4 required minimum yet. So really it is a tie that cannot be broken yet unless you go to strength of victory which I will not bother to waste time on after nine games. Its all irrelevant this young into a NFL season anyway. This season hasn’t even got an identity yet. After game 12 we’ll know who is in it who is for real and who were first half pretenders.

  99. angrychicky says: Nov 19, 2009 12:02 PM

    super of course we all “know nothing” but it doesn’t mean we can’t argue are opinions!
    some posters seem to come across like they think they know more then they do. thats their right! give us more credit. we can spot them out and give their opinions less credibility on our own. they are easy to spot. namely the one’s you argue with are the biggest offenders.
    we take less stock in their opinions then everyone elses.
    So super enough with the “know nothing” passive aggressive act. it worked with some. not me.

  100. Supersuckers says: Nov 19, 2009 12:12 PM

    Angry Chicken
    I have never directed a comment toward you or honestly seen you before. Beer Cheese? is that you?

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