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Giants' owner doesn't like Thanksgiving schedule

Next week will be a busy one for the New York Giants.

On Sunday the Giants will host the Atlanta Falcons at Giants Stadium, and four days later — on Thanksgiving night — they’ll play the Broncos in Denver. Giants owner John Mara isn’t happy about that schedule.

It’s not an ideal situation,” Mara told the New York Daily News. “I don’t mind playing on Thanksgiving. My complaint is sending us all the way to Denver on a short week.”

The Giants are far from the only team that has to travel a long distance on a short work week. The Oakland Raiders will be playing at Dallas on Thanksgiving, which is a comparable distance to the Giants’ trip to Denver. And last week the Chicago Bears had to play at San Francisco on a Thursday, which is a longer trip than the one the Giants are taking.

But because it’s happening to his own team, Mara says he wants to do something about it, even though it’s not clear how, exactly, Mara thinks the rules should be written to make sure teams don’t have too difficult a travel schedule during Thanksgiving week.

One option would be to allow teams to volunteer to play on the road on Thanksgiving, but, Mara said, “I don’t know how many volunteers you are going to get.”

Actually, if teams could volunteer to play against the Lions, probably quite a few.

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  1. bearsrule says: Nov 17, 2009 12:32 PM

    Let’s change the rules if it negatively influences a team from New York. I bet he doesn’t bitch when he gets those TV checks.

  2. Cmoney20 says: Nov 17, 2009 12:32 PM

    Believe me Im not thrilled having to watch the Giants on Thanksgiving either. Unless Danny Ware is getting the ball, im actually never thrilled to be watching them.

  3. leatherneck says: Nov 17, 2009 12:38 PM

    It’s OK for other teams, but not for the Giants.

  4. Satanic Hell Creature says: Nov 17, 2009 12:46 PM

    Boo Fricking Hoo, He thinks just because they’re the Giants, they deserve special treatment (he’s just used to it, because they usually do get some preferential treatment). Either that, or he doesn’t want every single football fan seeing how inept his team has become.
    “It’s not an ideal situation” Why the hell does any team deserve an ideal situation?
    “Allow teams to volunteer to play on the road on Thanksgiving” Quit crying and play the game. I’m sure he’d be MORE than happy if the Giants were awarded with playing an annual Thanksgiving Day game at home. Would he feel sorry for teams that had to come to their home?

  5. BigDiceBuddha says: Nov 17, 2009 12:49 PM

    Way to pick and choose quotes to paint a picture…
    Mara ALSO said that the reason he thinks that it’s unfair is because both Denver and Dallas both have home games the Sunday prior to Thanksgiving, giving them a competitive advantage travel wise.

  6. CapsLockKey says: Nov 17, 2009 12:51 PM

    If he doesn’t want his team to be in nationally televised games, then by all means take away the Giants from the nationally televised schedule. I’d be more than happy to see my team get the exposure and not have to pay for the Sunday ticket or some crappy internet feed in order to watch them as crappy as they are. It’s not like they didn’t give the 4-12 Browns TWO national games this year. The team I root for hasn’t been in one in the last 3 seasons, so suck it Mara.

  7. Joe in Toronto, Canada says: Nov 17, 2009 12:51 PM

    The Raiders play at home on Sunday against the Bengals, and then play in Dallas on Thursday.
    It’s a bitch, no doubt about it.

  8. LionsFan says: Nov 17, 2009 1:01 PM

    So it begins… The first (of many) in the annual bitchfest that inevitibly surrounds the Thanksgiving Day games. Typically, it starts with bitching and moaning about how the entire country is “forced” to watch the Lions and why the NFL should take the game away from the Lions because it hurts their image/marketing or whatever.
    I can’t wait for all of those super original/insightful pieces. They’ll be awesome!

  9. mattitude says: Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM

    I have to travel up to New York on Thanksgiving where all of my parents’ family is from. As an Eagles fan, I’ll be looking for every opportunity to point out the Giants’ flaws and take jabs at my relatives. They’ll obviously respond by bringing up the World Series. To which I’ll reply, “What the hell is a World Series?”

  10. sluggrad says: Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM

    If they put a mega scoreboard screen in every stadium they could play all the games in NY and televise the games to the fans in the stadiums.

  11. The Michael says: Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM

    ALL THE WAY TO DENVER! OMG! It’s so far! How are my little fairies gonna survive in their first class flight all the way to Denver! And they also have to play in that mile high air!
    This dude’s a bitch.

  12. mike says: Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM

    To HELL with tradition! Take the damn Lions off my TV on Thanksgiving!
    “I can’t wait for all of those super original/insightful pieces.”
    It’s common sense.

  13. Kevin from Philly says: Nov 17, 2009 1:24 PM

    Matt,
    I’m right there with you – my brothers’ wife is from NY and (get this) loves the Giants because she was a big Kerry freakin’ Collins fan!

  14. east96street says: Nov 17, 2009 1:25 PM

    bearsrule says: “Let’s change the rules if it negatively influences a team from New York. I bet he doesn’t bitch when he gets those TV checks.”
    Wow. An ignorant comment from Chicago. What a surprise. The Mara family has fought from the very beginning for profit sharing between the teams. This is a HUGE disadvantage to the NY teams since they have, by far (remember there is no LA team), the largest TV audiences in the NFL. Therefore, without profit sharing, the NY teams would get the majority of ad revenues since their games would have consistently higher viewership (7.5 million TVs in NYC vs. 3.5 in Chicago). Add on to that , the ability for the Giants to form their own TV network and charge a premium cable tier for access to their games and the Maras would be rolling in money. To see how this would work in other sports, merely look at the NY Yankees. They have their own network and can consistently outspend the other teams for free agents. Doesn’t always work out for NY, but it having that pile of cash at his disposal is a pretty effective weapon for Steinbrenner. Seeing how the cap is going away, you should be grateful that the Maras had the foresight to fight for small market teams.

  15. hotchick says: Nov 17, 2009 1:27 PM

    Yes the difficulty stands out when it effects your team. How many of you dont notice the “disadvatages” your fav team encounters when you perceive them and not notice them for others?
    Thursday games are simple. There are enough match-ups each year to make this happen. And with the new “varible” game on Thanksgiving its not easy then too.
    Just schedule the Thursday games between two teams generally close to each other and make sure both play at home the week before. (maybe sometimes having the home Thursday team play on the road the week prior).
    This of course is easier on the east coast. But still doable out west.

  16. Coutre1 says: Nov 17, 2009 1:35 PM

    change your name to New Jersey you loser.

  17. Mike D says: Nov 17, 2009 1:36 PM

    Join the club, pal. We as fans have to endure yet another Detroit Lions game on Thanksgiving then (and this is the whipped cream on top of the pumpkin pie), at 4 o’clock, a Raiders game.
    What’s to like, exactly?

  18. Rezen says: Nov 17, 2009 1:37 PM

    Easy way to fix this.
    Extend the open schedule until the week before Thanksgiving, with the 3 visiting teams having their open date the week before Thanksgiving.
    Now, about my arbitration fee…

  19. odds75to1 says: Nov 17, 2009 1:43 PM

    I don’t care who the teams are – why would anyone feel sorry for any of these people who get paid millions to do their JOB — yep, their JOB!!
    How many of you have long commutes? Say you work late one night – drive yer ass alllllll the way home, only to turn around after 4 hrs sleep and drive allllll the way back? It’s part of their JOB so boo-hoo!
    I think leaving the Lions game on Thanksgiving is poetic justice – now the rest of you can suffer like we do!

  20. Filbertkiwi71 says: Nov 17, 2009 1:45 PM

    I don’t like the Thanksgiving day schedule either, but it is for an entirely different reason. The choice of scheduled games is terrible.
    Why in the world didn’t they choose to schedule the Chargers/Cowboys game on Thanksgiving? It is one thing to be stuck with the Packers/Lions on Thanksgiving day, but adding the Raiders/Cowboys to that mess is unbearable.
    I don’t give a crap about the Giant/Bronco night game because I don’t get the NFLN.
    I don’t think it is at all likely to have the Chargers/ Cowboys game flexed, because I think that is one game that CBS is definitely going to want to protect.

  21. ham1 says: Nov 17, 2009 1:52 PM

    Cry me a river,
    Seems to me, he did not bat an eye when he got the Saints “xtra” home game. Saints sure apppreciated the Giants for that. They got to play the Giants at Giant stadium and got to call it their home game. I didnt see the Giants complain but everybody in the NFC thought it was a raw deal, especially after Katrina. That was the biggest scheduling BS I ever saw.
    They ought to quit crying and STFU and play.
    What a bitch.

  22. MikeF says: Nov 17, 2009 1:54 PM

    east96street says:
    November 17, 2009 1:25 PM
    The Mara family has fought from the very beginning for profit sharing between the teams….you should be grateful that the Maras had the foresight to fight for small market teams.
    ________________________________
    I believe it was Harry Wismer, the owner of the N.Y. Titans who originated TV revenue sharing concept. Not the Maras, not Rozelle.

  23. kravon says: Nov 17, 2009 1:56 PM

    Does he make this comment if his team isnt on a 4 game losing streak?

  24. VoxVeritas says: Nov 17, 2009 1:57 PM

    “Mara ALSO said that the reason he thinks that it’s unfair is because both Denver and Dallas both have home games the Sunday prior to Thanksgiving, giving them a competitive advantage travel wise.”
    Maybe he’d like for his team to play 3 games in 11 days year after year like the Cowboys do. Or maybe he’d like to have 9 home games. Again.

  25. VoxVeritas says: Nov 17, 2009 2:00 PM

    “They’ll obviously respond by bringing up the World Series. To which I’ll reply, “What the hell is a World Series?””
    They’ll just counter with “It’s like the Super Bowl, only for baseball. But being an Eagirls fan, you wouldn’t know about those either, would you?”

  26. bavanlan says: Nov 17, 2009 2:03 PM

    The Colts had to play on Monday night in Miami and then had to travel to Arizona for a Sunday night game where (unlike here) both teams weren’t on a short week.

  27. VoxVeritas says: Nov 17, 2009 2:05 PM

    “I’m right there with you – my brothers’ wife is from NY and (get this) loves the Giants because she was a big Kerry freakin’ Collins fan!”
    So what? Everybody has their reasons. Why are you an Eagirls fan? Big Cunningham fan or what?

  28. buzzbissinger says: Nov 17, 2009 2:14 PM

    Bitch, bitch, bitch. How about when the 49ers where in a division with: New Orleans, Atlanta, and St. Louis? What about that Mara?

  29. Jintsbowl says: Nov 17, 2009 2:20 PM

    my god you guys just love to complain. He was ASKED about this, and he gave his opinion. It’s not like he was just spoutting off about it.
    Keep loving to hate the Giants, in the long run it all boils down to jealousy.
    Does anyone actually think making teams travel a long distance on short rest just for a Thanksgiving day game? It’s obvious that this puts the away team at a competitive disadvantage, I don’t care if it’s the Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, or Redskins.

  30. Nittany Munchkins says: Nov 17, 2009 2:24 PM

    Vox…I’m an Eagles fan, so I’m legally bound to dislike you, but that super bowl comment was funny.

  31. bearsrule says: Nov 17, 2009 2:28 PM

    east96street says: November 17, 2009 1:25 PM
    bearsrule says: “Let’s change the rules if it negatively influences a team from New York. I bet he doesn’t bitch when he gets those TV checks.”
    Wow. An ignorant comment from Chicago. What a surprise. The Mara family has fought from the very beginning for profit sharing between the teams. This is a HUGE disadvantage to the NY teams since they have, by far (remember there is no LA team), the largest TV audiences in the NFL. Therefore, without profit sharing, the NY teams would get the majority of ad revenues since their games would have consistently higher viewership (7.5 million TVs in NYC vs. 3.5 in Chicago). Add on to that , the ability for the Giants to form their own TV network and charge a premium cable tier for access to their games and the Maras would be rolling in money. To see how this would work in other sports, merely look at the NY Yankees. They have their own network and can consistently outspend the other teams for free agents. Doesn’t always work out for NY, but it having that pile of cash at his disposal is a pretty effective weapon for Steinbrenner. Seeing how the cap is going away, you should be grateful that the Maras had the foresight to ………….blah, blah, blah.
    It doesn’t matter what he fought against. I bet he’s NOT RETURING any of those checks, dickweed. The fact that he’s fought against what has made the league so successful just shows how dense he is. He’s getting richer despite himself.

  32. VoxVeritas says: Nov 17, 2009 2:28 PM

    “Therefore, without profit sharing, the NY teams would get the majority of ad revenues since their games would have consistently higher viewership (7.5 million TVs in NYC vs. 3.5 in Chicago).”
    That’s assuming that the games would only be shown in the local markets. Which brings us to the next point:
    “Add on to that , the ability for the Giants to form their own TV network and charge a premium cable tier for access to their games and the Maras would be rolling in money.”
    They are already rolling in money. Your logic isn’t very sound. If they’re only being shown locally, they’d only be getting a fraction of the revenue that they’re getting now, cable or not. Fact of the matter is that few people care about the Giants outside of the NY area. Everybody wants to see their home team and the Cowboys. Just a basic fact of life, man. I’m not sure that the Mara’s have that kind of vision in the first place. They might have eventually stumbled on the cable channel after seeing the Cowboys, Bucs and Falcons do it but I doubt they’d have come up with it on their own.
    “Seeing how the cap is going away, you should be grateful that the Maras had the foresight to fight for small market teams.”
    No, you should be grateful, because if there were no competitive NFL, there would be no Giants for you to cry about. The smaller markets are just as important as the larger markets. Revenue sharing is important, but it’s also important to move forward and grow the revenue to the benefit of all teams, large markets and small. The Maras have pretty much sat on their thumbs for decades and watched true movers and shakers like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft grow the NFL revenue pie exponentially. They’re the ones that have benefitted the smaller market teams the most.

  33. KingJoe! says: Nov 17, 2009 2:33 PM

    Mara should shut up. Nobody cares if he doesnt like it. The fans like games on Thanksgiving, so shut up and play.

  34. Bwa Ha Ha says: Nov 17, 2009 2:39 PM

    If this lousy Giants team keeps tanking, they will play every game at 1:00 PM on Sundays, that’s it. That is when crappy teams play

  35. Borg30 says: Nov 17, 2009 2:43 PM

    Wow,
    Lot of angry people today.
    Vox, Once again, more dumb ass comments,
    Go Packers!!!!!!!!!!

  36. buzzbissinger says: Nov 17, 2009 2:53 PM

    Most posters hate Vox because he knows how to push the buttons of the lowest common denominator (i.e. 98.2% of the posters on PFT). And of course the 10% of posters who know how to use spell check, and use it to ridicule other posters about their poor grammar, thereby thinking the are smart.

  37. Dave J says: Nov 17, 2009 2:57 PM

    “The Maras don’t have that kind of vision”?
    If it wasn’t for Wellington Mara, there is a good chance the small-market team’s wouldn’t enjoy the benefit of revenue sharing, so let’s cut out the b/s of accusing the family of not being league-friendly.
    If you read the whole statement, Mara does state that he’s concerned about other teams that have to make a similar trip. The reason why he thinks this is particularly egregious is not that it’s just a road game – it’s that it’s a short week PLUS the long trip PLUS the time they needed to get acclimated to the oxygen-deprived air in Denver.
    Further, he makes it pretty clear that he’s not trying to make a rule change to just benefit the Giants; his statement makes clear that he wants to change it so that visiting teams playing on Thanksgiving don’t have to make long trips (i.e., more Green Bay/Detroit games, rather than something like Patriots/Cowboys). As a matter of competitive fairness, this is an excellent point – why should the 3 home teams on Thanksgiving have a bit of a competitive advantage because they’re facing teams in this position? I.e., the home teams have a short week, too, but its still longer than the time a visiting team has if they’re traveling a great distance.
    So, once again, you would be well advised to abandon the greedy Giants rhetoric on this thread: long ago, the Mara family could have made sure the Giants, Bears, etc. had a competitive advantage in terms of television money, but they didn’t. They shared. This is ultimately just a matter of making the game as neutral as possible before the teams taking the field.

  38. east96street says: Nov 17, 2009 3:09 PM

    bearsrule says: “The fact that he’s fought against what has made the league so successful just shows how dense he is. He’s getting richer despite himself.”
    No, moron, he fought FOR what has made the League so successful. What a surprise, an illiterate jackass from Chicago. Obviously, the next mayor.

  39. Quagmire says: Nov 17, 2009 3:26 PM

    If Detroit & Dallas get the Thanksgiving games every year, they should at least rotate home & away.
    Big advantage never have to travel on that short week.

  40. east96street says: Nov 17, 2009 3:31 PM

    VoxVeritas says: “The Maras have pretty much sat on their thumbs for decades and watched true movers and shakers like Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft grow the NFL revenue pie exponentially.”
    I know you never miss an opportunity to get on your knees to Jones, but the sad fact is Vox, the Maras bought the Giants in 1925 five years after the League started. Jones bought Dallas in 1989. So, the guys “that sat on their thumbs” basically built the League that Jones bought into 64 years AFTER the Maras got started. But by all means, continue to make an ass of yourself. It is amusing. Myspace page still say you’re feeling “lonely” or is today a different mood?

  41. east96street says: Nov 17, 2009 3:38 PM

    Mike F says: “I believe it was Harry Wismer, the owner of the N.Y. Titans who originated TV revenue sharing concept. Not the Maras, not Rozelle.”
    During the early 1960s, Wellington and his brother Jack, the owners of the NFL’s largest market, agreed to share television revenue on a league-wide basis, dividing the amounts of money available in cities like New York with smaller market teams such as the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Green Bay Packers. Wismer did the same for the AFL, but he did so out of self interest. At the time, there was doubts that the AFL would survive and Wismer’s own team was having trouble generating revenue because of the fact they competed with well established Giants franchise.

  42. Jaydub says: Nov 17, 2009 4:20 PM

    Personally, I dont know why the F we have to be subjected to the same boring, God-awful teams every damn year on Thanksgiving. If they’re gonna make 2 teams a year play in London, then how difficult can it be to pick a few DIFFERENT teams a year to play on Thanksgiving?
    I mean, really…..the Lions? Being subjected to Jerrah digging for gold after just eating a full meal? Every damn year?!
    Pepto Bismol must be getting residuals

  43. ocelots138 says: Nov 17, 2009 4:21 PM

    # VoxVeritas says: November 17, 2009 2:00 PM
    They’ll just counter with “It’s like the Super Bowl, only for baseball. But being an Eagirls fan, you wouldn’t know about those either, would you?”
    ——————-
    Uh, Texas Rangers. ‘Nuff said.
    Your baseball team is just like your football team, the only difference is that while everyone knows both teams won’t win in the postseason, for some reason people pretend the Cowboys are going to be there.

  44. SF Saints Fan says: Nov 17, 2009 4:32 PM

    So many valid points – and so not so valid points.
    Mara is complaining that his team has to travel to Denver? Dude, teams have to play away games. Oh, so it is four days after your last game, it is four days after Denver’s last game too. Oh, Denver is at home for that game, so are the Giants. Maybe the Giants would have a valid point if they were playing the Raiders in Oakland this weekend, but come on, this is the NFL. Teams travel.
    Maybe Mara can give up a “home” game next year and play that one in London. That would probably exempt his team from having to play on Thanksgiving. Take one for the team Giants and play a home game in London. Oh wait, that will NEVER happen!
    How does revenue sharing come into this? The NFL would have no chance to survive as a league if it went the way of baseball and allowed teams to spend vastly different amounts of money. With just eight regular season home games (unless you are the Giants) teams need to have at least a chance to be competitive, absent that, there would be no fans. There are only so many times that people will sit through the Giants playing the Cowboys every year before they throw up.
    And for the Giants to be complaining about traveling is ridiculous. When the NFL realigned a few years ago, I recall that the Giants were one of the teams standing strong for the NFC East to remain the Giants, Eagles, Redskins and Cowboys. They could have easily “traded” the Cowboys for the Panthers and had a much reduced travel schedule. But they wanted to keep their “traditional” rival and said no to that.
    How about when the Falcons were in the NFC WEST and had to play the 49’ers and the then LA Rams? Talk about screwed up travel there!
    And, I am sure he would not be complaining if the Raiders were coming to New Jersey on Thursday night now would he!

  45. beardown99 says: Nov 17, 2009 6:38 PM

    I think that the Thanksgiving games should have a flex schedule like NBC has. A few weeks out from Thanksgiving week, CBS and Fox should pull the most attractive games on their respective channels from the Sunday games after Thanksgiving and put them on Thanksgiving. That way everyone might see some better games.

  46. Bwa Ha Ha says: Nov 17, 2009 8:08 PM

    I like the Cowpigs on Thanksgiving. They usually lose

  47. SATAN says: Nov 18, 2009 9:22 PM

    Can the fine owners for WHINING???
    250K

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