Earlier Sunday, we told you that Packers cornerback Al Harris is expected to miss the season with a torn ACL.
We also told you outside linebacker Aaron Kampman left the game with a serious knee injury. Now both Green Bay papers are reporting that Kampman is also expected to miss the season with his own torn ACL.
The Packers finally had some momentum going with two consecutive wins to get to 6-4, led by an emerging defense.
Finagling one of the final two wild card spots in the NFC just got a lot tougher for Green Bay.
Kampman expected to miss season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 22, 2009 11:19 PM ET
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I love Kampy, but I'm more worried about losing Harris. We've got tons of depth at LB, and Kampman's not built for this system anyway.
I disagree with almost this entire article. First, Harris isn't that good. He's been grossly overrated ever since the "we want the ball and we're going to score" incident, and Kampman was already a casualty of the 3-4. Neither is a huge impact this season.
I like Tramon a lot. Underwood doesn't look half bad either. As long as Jarrett "Ahmad Carroll" Bush doesn't start, I believe the chances of getting a wildcard are still just as lousy as they were.
"Finagling one of the final two wild card spots in the NFC just got a lot tougher for Green Bay."
While I do agree a little bit, they did play really well without him against Dallas last week. But either way, Kampman's loss will be a big one. It sucks that he has to end a contract year on IR.
Guys are really going to have to step up now. Indy is doing it. Some key plays from former Packer Daniel Muir against the Pats. Former Packer Tracy White just tipped a pass for Eagles to beat Bears. Hope the guys they kept are ready to follow this example and rise to the challenge.
YOUR 2010 MINNESOTA VIKING DEFENSIVE LINE: Jared Allen, Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Aaron Kampman.
ALL WE DO IS WIN... ALL WE DO IS WIN!!!
SCOREBOARD GREEN BAY, SCOREBOARD!
Ouch, though the loss of Harris is bigger in my opinion.
Tough break for Kampmann...moved to an OLB after playing the 4-3 for years, now injured for rest of the season it appears, all while in a contract year.
He should still be able to get a pretty good contract wherever he ends up despite the injury based off of his performance in seasons prior, just likely not with GB. He'll be missed by the fans if he isn't back.
Hey JimmySmith....
Jimmy??
Jimmy Smith are you here???
ohhh rigght after you saw this you probably ran to you room crying your eyes out at your moms house..
But dont worry Jimmy you can keep them in your madden game and go to the super bowl just like you said they would only it wont count in REAL life!
Also don't worry about Brett.. 4tds and 22 of his 25 throws a career high 88% this week! Something he couldn't do with your fudge packers!!
Next time your at the game tell Uncle Ted thanks!
SKOL VIKINGS
I feel bad Kampman. Contract year where he's most likely to go somewhere else and this happens. It's a shame.
Though I would never wish injury upon anyone, losing these two won't hurt the defense. This finally gives the Packers a reason to insert Brad Jones, an outside linebacker who is meant to play in the 3-4. Kampman is only a starter because of his name. He clearly didn't belong in this defense. I've been saying since the day they announced the switch, that they should have traded him for something. Now they won't get anything.
As far Al Harris, yes it sucks that now they have to put Jarrett Bush in at the nickel, but Al Harris has been the most overrated cornerback in this league for years. People who have followed the Packers every week since he's been here, knows that he's horrible. He gets burned over and over again. The only two years that he looked decent(which is probably why NFL announcers hype him up so much) was when Ahmad Carroll started opposite of him. Why would any QB throw at Al, when they knew they could throw towards Ahmad Carroll every time and get either a big passing play or a pass interference call? If Al is so great, then why does EVERY quarterback attack Al Harris on a regular basis? And when he does get burned, he immediately gets called for illegal hands to the face or some other stupid penalty.
Again, there's no negative about losing these two guys, other than losing Kampman's value at the end of the season when they would have franchised him and traded him. Now they couldn't get a bag of peanuts for him.
Funny how GB fans can't even spell Kampman right.
Too bad for Kampman, I always thought that he was the best player on the roster I have quite a bit of respect for him, then woodson and rodgers is pretty damn good.
"YOUR 2010 MINNESOTA VIKING DEFENSIVE LINE: Jared Allen, Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Aaron Kampman. "
Sorry but Kampman won't be going to Minnesota. There is no point when the Vikings already have Ray Edwards.
The people (including supposed Packers fans who should know better) calling Al Harris overrated are insane.
Obviously, Woodson is a bit better, but Harris is still #1 CB material. Harris doesn't do anything but go out there every day and produce. I knew the instant he hit the ground that the team is in trouble. Dom Capers knows, too. I guarantee you him hanging his head outside the locker room after the game was 99.9% Harris and .01% Kampman.
Kampman is solid and I really like him, but losing a converted 4-3 DE in our scheme and personnel isn't a big deal. Losing Harris completely changes how Capers does his Defense.
Beer Cheese you STILL do not know what youare watching on Sundays? Get a copy of the film from NFl.com and try watching something other then the ball. I do damn near every Monday night. Harris is a stud and his PEERS say the same thing. Who are you to judge from a TV copy?
If Kampman is so bad, why was he the leading tackler for the Packers despite not playing the entire game?
While Kampman struggles covering a RB 20 yards downfield, so does Barnett and Hawk is considerably worse.
Kampman's one of the few who regularly gets pressure on the QB.
His replacement played in the Cowboy game. A team which lost their starting right tackle, making his job significantly easier. Cowboys offense is so potent without Colombo, that they barely squeak out a 7-6 win against the Redskins (and would have lost if the skins kicker hadn't choked).
For those saying Harris is bad, why does he take on the #1 WR, while Woodson is assigned TEs and told to blitz. Yes, Harris gets beat occasionally. That's the nature of taking on pro bowlers week in week out. Packers secondary looked like swiss cheese once Harris left.
Williams has been getting beat by #3 WRs. Bush draws flags, just what we need on the most penalized team in the NFL.
The loss of these two players hurts a lot. The guys in the locker room looked to these guys for leadership.
Wow, it's seriously good to see some fans starting to make sense on the issue of Harris and his B.S. characterization of being a "shutdown corner". The guy's no better than a low-tier CB hanging on to his job because they're stubborn enough to hang on to the worthless nickel and dime backs Tramon Williams and Jarrett Bush. Wish Pat Lee would get his butt in gear and start playing a bit better, but I doubt it will happen. As long as we continue to play morons like Bigby in the backfield, we have a built in propensity for failure, regardless of who is playing the corner.
Kampman's a unique situation. True, he really does not fit our style of defense (and I argue he never really fit the 4-3 either - he was another type like Jared Allen that racks up sacks against crummy teams and disappeared every time a game counted; He just isn't as big of an overrated meth-head redneck like Allen), and thus he should've been pushed harder before the trade deadline. This serves as nothing more than a pie in Ted's face and another log on the fire for his immediate departure in the off-season.
Any games we lose without them the rest of the way, we wouldn't have won with them either.
Really, neglagible impact to the Pack. But I can see Ted Thompson fans sticking this in their back pocket to later use as an excuse, just like they did last year.
Suck says:
Beer Cheese you STILL do not know what youare watching on Sundays? Get a copy of the film from NFl.com and try watching something other then the ball. I do damn near every Monday night. Harris is a stud and his PEERS say the same thing. Who are you to judge from a TV copy?
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This from someone who ADMITTEDLY knows nothing about football.
Why exactly is the NFL.com footage of the games (which I do watch) different from the "TV copy", especially when my TV is huge and my computer screen isn't? And for that matter, what exactly are you watching, if not the TV copy? Were you on the sideline today?
Finally, what are you doing on this site? I thought you "retired" three days ago when you couldn't handle people calling you out for mixing bold predictions with admissions of ignorance anymore. Now you want to come back here and tell ME something?
Once you become the only person in the world still defending Ted, and/or admit not knowing anything for the 80th time, you lose all credibility.
I think I'll just go back to not wasting my time on your mindless banter and insecurity issues. Whatever you say, I'll just "consider it your concession" that you're a total douche (yes, I said it, go ahead and post your home address again), and generally a disgrace to all civilized Pack fans.
I'm embarrassed for you.
This is a total shame. A great pass rusher gets forced into the wrong scheme and then goes out for the season. I hope he recovers and is able to continue playing with a team that appreciates his talent. Packers fans can say whatever they want but losing a high character, high motor player like Kampman will have a negative impact this season and in the future.
I hate to see Kampman end his season and most likely his Packers career this way. Al Harris isn't nearly as bad as some people on here are making him out to be - plus - it means Bush is one spot closer to playing and that's never a good thing.
The one thing Harris excels at is at jamming his hands into the grill of the man he is covering. "Hands-To-The-Face Al' as he is known in NFL circles. Kampy is headed out of town to a team that uses him the way he should be used - rushing the passer as a d-end - not a 3/4 linebacker.
It's not like anyone other than the Ted Thompson's bootlickers thought the Packers would do anything anyway. With or without Kampman and Harris they are an 8-8 Team at best.
Jimmy Smith are you here???
Ya, I'm here. Injuries happen to every team and now it is time to see whether the Packers have depth or they don't.
As for the Vikings, just win a playoff game in the last decade and you might have some room to talk. Talking trash on the internet is easy, I should know, I needle you guys all the time. That is the problem with Viking fans, they are always claiming the next Superbowl (wow, we signed Jared Allen, now we are going to win the next Superbowl, no wait, we signed Brent Favre, now we are really going to win the next Superbowl) while history continues to show otherwise. The Vikings are best known for the being choke artists for good reason, they earned it.
Really classy Vikings fans, celebrate a season-ending injury. This not only shows what complete assholes you all are, but shows how much you still look over your shoulder at the Packers...not because Green Bay is better, because they this year, they aren't....it's because they are a team with class, unlike the Vikings who can't even sell out a home playoff game, one they ultimately lost anyway....douchebag assclown Vikings fans can suck it...enjoy your regular season because once you have to play the Saints, you will lose anyway...that is if you don't lose AGAIN at home against Arizona. Assholes.
Fan_Of_Four, why are you wasting your time here and not washing my jock straps? If you love me so much, get busy washing!
Damn peasants...err, I mean...fans of mine.
Both are big losses. Kampy looked good yesterday, and Capers was finally figuring out how to utilize him. He can still take a tackle and drive him back into the QB. Not many 3-4 OLBs can do that. Brandon Jones has done fine, but like Clay Matthews he's mostly a speed rusher around the outside. Al is a very good corner, just ask most top receivers he's faced. Ochocinco called him the best in the league.
Pack still has a legit shot at the playoffs if they can clean up their special teams.
packers4life, Fire Ted, GoPackGo,
Kampmann might be able to play special teams for the Vikes... I stress "might".
ha ha!
ALL WE DO IS WIN... ALL WE DO IS WIN... IN METRODOME, IN LAMBEAU, IN THE DRAFT, IN FREE AGENCY... ALL WE DO IS WIN.
berner ner ner ber ner ner ner.... GO PACK GO...berner ner ner ber ner ner ner.... RE-BUILD YOUR FRANCHISE!
...all we do is win...
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"Brett"
I think the second commenter had it right: Kampman was a casualty of the switch to the 3-4 who still hadn't appeared comfortable at the OLB position.
If he rehabs hard and gets himself in top physical shape, he'll have no trouble landing somewhere with a team that needs a good hand-in-the-dirt pass rusher. It'll be better for him and for GB since they'll be able to snag a real OLB.
Beer Cheeses,
Go to NFL.com. become a member. (34.99 a month) and you can request a copy of the coaches film sent to your email. For you to say Harris is overrated holds no merit. His peers say hes one of the best corners in the league. Who am I going to believe? his peers? Or Beer Cheese Soup who bases his know nothing opinions on watching a ten second delayed TV copy of games live and probably just watches the ball. You usually dont see what happens to a player unless he is near the ball watching your way.
I am not that concerned about either position, the Packers have good back-ups at both, waiting for their chances. On a personal level, I think it is a shame that Kampman was not traded before he was forced into the 3-4. It would have been better for him and the team. I too think that Al Harris is overrated. He does very well against pedestrian teams, but is only adequate when it really matters. Good luck to both.
Purple Penis Eaters:
The Vikes are having a great year. Great year.
But.
Win it all first before you start talking shit. The best thing that happened to GB this week was Ned Flanders getting his contract extention. He owes that all to Favre, and he actually makes Mike McMartzthy look like Bill Walsh.
Enjoy the year, but refrain from talking shit until you all actually win a Super Bowl. Because if you don't win it all this year, it will be a bigger disappointment than the 15-1 team from a few years ago.
Fire Ted using the phrase "douchebag assclown Vikings fans can suck it" says more about you than it does about us.
we would never stoop to using such remidial taunts.
we only have 1 word and 4 fingers to show to you....
SCOREBOARD & 1111 (4)
Teddy T has adequate depth at these positions and I think they will be ok there. but losing Harris hurts.
I'll say it again, the only reason the Packers sell-out games is because they have many family traditions of getting all together and having fun. But yes it does help fill the seats when they use those traditions to long dick their mothers in the parking lots before the game. Most Wisconsin mothers have more holes than swiss cheese and are more than welcome to let their son Little Johnny Packer Backer fill them.
Fire Ted says:
November 23, 2009 7:54 AM
douchebag assclown Vikings fans can suck it...enjoy your regular season because once you have to play the Saints, you will lose anyway...that is if you don't lose AGAIN at home against Arizona. Assholes.
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First,we go to Arizona you uninformed heap of dung. Dinks like you would be laughing if AD or Favre got hurt. I mean,how many Packer chowds would be screaming with laughter at us if Favre went down? I know better. I feel for Kampman, but rest assured the Vikings won't steal him next year. Damaged goods and Ray Edwards is better. Harris,who cares?Sure AD don't. Knee hitting thug.
Keep talking Saints. LOL We got the better qb,O line,D line,rb and special teams. Oh and receiving corps. Man,Vikings look great. Keep up ther hate Fire Ted,you are the biggest Pack douche on PFT.
MNFANINAZ,
your team hasn't won a thing. Nothing. Ever. Please explain your post.
The loss of Harris is big not because he is such a world beater but because the difference between him and his replacement is so great. Kampman's loss sucks for him but depthwise isn't that big of a deal. What is a big deal as others have pointed out is he should have been moved before the trade deadline. I've been indifferent towards Ted Thompson (unlike McCarthy whom I feel is totally out of place as a Head Coach) but I think when he makes a mistake...he makes them BIG. Next year might be a good time to do some housecleaning.
Zappa, fixed that for ya ;)
I'll say it again, the only reason the Packers sell-out games is because they have a better team, tradition, and history of winning championships. Unlike the Vikings idea of getting all together and having fun on the Loveboat while ultimately choking anytime they smell the playoffs. But yes it doesn't help fill the seats when the assclown Vikings fans can't fill their own stadium while the dumbasses ask for a new one. Most Minnesota mothers have more holes than the state has lakes and are more than welcome to let their son wear purple clothes, sport a blond wig, a be a complete ass hat after winning Nothing, and let's put this in a time frame....EVER!
SuperSuckers,
4 fingers = the number 4 = Brett Favre = heartache and despair for you and the rest of the townies.
duh.
ALL WE DO IS WIN... IN LAMBEAU IN THE PLAYOFFS...
no matter who you beat the rest of your season, it won't matter cause all you do is look at that Viking score and know deep in your hearts, you have no chance this year and you have to watch as YOUR GUY leads MY team to the promise land. And when we're done using him... you can have him back for some lame, b.s. jersey retirement ceremony, and Brett will have that sh*t eating grin knowing he eff'd you so WE could get our ring! But you'll celebrate him anyway... like true townie rubes.
Good day sir!
ALL WE DO IS WIN, ALL WE DO IS WIN...
Supersuckers says:
November 23, 2009 9:53 AM
MNFANINAZ,
your team hasn't won a thing. Nothing. Ever. Please explain your post.
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You Pack jacks make me laugh. We have won nothing??How about this year will be our 18 NFC North Title. Packers have 10,wow we almost double you!!
You have 1 modern SB victory. Shove that 60's crap football. Caveman ball hardly counts in the realm of modern football. Sure.you won 2 model T bowls in the 60's ,big deal. You could still find dinosaur bones then in farmers fields.
For idiots that say anything less than SB victory this year is a Vikings failure(Ambrose the Motel 6 lord for one) you are retarded. That goes for 32 teams,including you. Impossible for GB though cuz' have to make the playoffs to get there.
Damn I'm glad Favre seen you guys sucked. Like him here!
Pervy you must have the same crystal ball Chicken has! 12 NFl Championships.
Why would anybody explain anything to a douche like Sucker. You whiners crying about Vikings fans being here should have seen (and probably did) the Vikes thread on Winfield when he was injured. There were fudgepackers all over claiming our season was over.
Hey Packer fans, unless you can get that time machine working- I suggest you live in this season and quit talking about the 60s. For crying out loud. Most of us were not even close to alive in that decade!!! And the douchebags bringing up those times probably were not either. And if you were, it is really embarrassing that guys in 50s and 60s are on here arguing with high-schoolers!!!!
Fan_Of_Four:
"It's not like anyone other than the Ted Thompson's bootlickers thought the Packers would do anything anyway. With or without Kampman and Harris they are an 8-8 Team at best."
Dude, let it go. I really feel sorry for you. You're life as a football fan is going to end either at the end of this year or next when Brett Favre finally calls it a career. Ted Thompson made the right call with Aaron Rodgers, even though you will never admit it.
But you are just SO bitter about the whole thing. Enjoy this year with your hero but really, what are you going to do once he retires? Go on hating Thompson, and root against the Packers? That's a real stupid way to watch football.
Again, I feel incredibly sorry for you.
15-1 15-1 15-1! All we do is win! WIDE LEFT! Now,
You have a nice little start to the season. After week 12 is when it starts. Minnesota is in nice position. But there will be five other teams in the tournament on the NFC side alone that will not lay down just because of the Saints and the Vikings. Better be on your A game come playoff time because one bad day will end your season. If you manage to go 15-1 and miss another 38 yarder to send yout o the Superbowl what does 15-1 matter?
You can go back as soon as last year and find a team that after week 12 (again when this thing starts) was 4-8. 4-8!!! That team lost in the divisional round of the playoffs in a tight contect to the eventual NFL Champions. This shit hasn't started yet folks.
hey viking fans...at least after 2011 green bay will still have a team. i dont think the airlines will let you fly your helmets and all your horn garbage to LA to watch your former team!
WOW! A lot of people here showing their brilliance!
My favorite part of all the posts are the people talking about the Packers' "lousy" chances of making the playoffs...nice comment...until you consider that they currently hold the top wildcard spot in the NFC. Oops, insert foot in mouth now...
And I am absolutely shocked that anyone would take offense to Vikings fans talking crap. We all know (including the Vikings fans that are talking crap) that they have to get it in now, cause when they choke in the playoffs AGAIN, they will come back down to earth.
I think if you want to look at what impact losing these two guys is going to have, check out the second half of the game this week. They let a San Francisco passing attack that had -7 yards passing in the first half back in a game they had no business being in. Kampman hurts, I feel as much as he was struggling with the 3-4, that he was finally starting to fit in and play up to expectations, AND even bigger then that, Capers was starting to loosen up the play calling and get more aggressive on defense, thus utilizing Kampy more to his strengths. Harris is a top tier corner in the league, lined up across from an even better corner. He is asked to take on recievers with little or no safety help, and teams choose to throw away from Woodson. Combine those two elements together, and the fact that the NFL is calls games to give the offense the advantage, yes, I agree Harris gets beat...BUT he succeeds more often then he fails. He is better then any other option the Packers currently have at corner, and his loss will be felt. They need guys to step up and fill that position in order to hold on to that wild card position.
The Vikes have built a great team for Los Angeles.
Lakers to LA, North Stars to Dallas, and now the Vikes to LA as well.
How much does it suck that the Packers - in the smallest major sports market - are actually contributing to the revenue sharing that the Vikes are surviving off of?
The Pack is supporting you, bitches.
How sad is it that the Vikes who, as you all say, do nothing but win, win, win....can't sell out the dome?
Talk shit now, and go see the Vikes play in LA in two years.
what's the nomenclature going to be after the beautiful and tactful stadium is built in a beautiful downtown that is Minneapolis?? Political posturing, nothing more, the stadium is a done deal, dumb asses.
ALL WE DO IS WIN, ALL WE DO IS WIN!
Supersuckers says:
November 23, 2009 10:32 AM
Pervy you must have the same crystal ball Chicken has! 12 NFl Championships.
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Velociraptor. Caveman. Packer history. Need I say more?
I always hate to see guys season end because of injury, even as a staunch Vikes fan this sucks to see.
Even though if Favre went down none of you Pack fans would say the same.
It's so sad reading Packer fan after Packer fan talk about how useless Kampman and Harris are.
This is the modern day Packer fan, no matter who you are, a CB cornerstone, the best DE they've had since Reggie White, a legendary QB, or a 22 year veteran stadium worker, as soon as you're off the field, these classless cheeseheads will turn on you and spout any negatives they can think of.
And when Kampman returns to Lambeau with another team, the new era classless Packer fans will boo the crap out of him.
In two years, Packer fans have turned from Smeagal to Gollum ...
pjfuller says:
November 23, 2009 10:55 AM
Talk shit now, and go see the Vikes play in LA in two years.
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Never happen. We will be in TCF Stadium,the new one for the Gophers.When they are building us a new one that is. Sorry douche,know you wish we would leave the North. We will be the Packers DADDY for years. BYE BYE
Beer Cheese,
Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. I am flattered you are copying my sensational posts and psychology!
mnfaninaz all you do is lose the big game, all you do is lose the big game! joke!
Bummer for Kampman -- he's deserved better all year, and now his value in free agency is diminished. I agree with most Pack fans that Harris' play has declined. It will be interesting to see what this injury does to his career given his age. Now will be the time to see if TT's great young depth experiment works, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
It doesn't take a genius (and that's impossible to find on this thread) to figure the Vikes' may lose a playoff game given the fact that only one team doesn't "choke" in the Super Bowl tourney. So what? I'll enjoy the ride and ignore the dopes making choke cracks, as likely will every cheeser if the Pack makes the wild card round.
I love ready trash from folks like PHervin above. Totally ignorant of history, especially the Vikes. So typical of Twin Cities fans who think they actually live in world-class city, when in fact it helped inspire "Lake Woebegon". Here's a little comparison: the Packers kicked the 49'ers. The Vikes were lucky to beat the 49'ers, just for a little perspective.
That said, anyone who thinks Williams can replace Harris is so ignorant they should retire from the human race. There's a reason you don't hear much from the receivers Harris covers. You will be hearing from them now that T Williams will be covering them. He is one of the most overrated players on the team. This is akin to loving the backup QB, only to see why that person is the backup. Al Harris is a man, and you can ask any number of receivers if that is true or not.
Kampman was a goner anyway with an expiring contract. But...this might actually work against him leaving because no team is going to give him a FA contract with a bum leg. So the Packers might be stuck with him again. Nothing against Kampman, he's an animal in the 4-3 defense, but it was painful watching him trying to pass protect. Jones, while inexperienced, is going to be very good there for a long time, unless they feel obligated to putting Kampman there again.
radioboy20010 says:
November 23, 2009 11:56 AM
I love ready trash from folks like PHervin above. Totally ignorant of history, especially the Vikes. So typical of Twin Cities fans who think they actually live in world-class city, when in fact it helped inspire "Lake Woebegon". Here's a little comparison: the Packers kicked the 49'ers. The Vikes were lucky to beat the 49'ers, just for a little perspective.
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Here's a little comparison.
Vikes- 30 Pack- 23
Vikes-38 Pack- 26
@ radioboy -I have forgotten more football history than you have now. That 49er take sucked. You are a rookie. Post to the other rookies.
The worst part about this is, as someone mentioned earlier, Capers was finally starting to use Kampman more to his abilities and Kampman was starting to get better in coverage. I don't think we'll ever really know the impact of his injury because I think his best games were coming. I for one certainly hope he ends up staying in GB.
Harris hurts. Yes he can get beat and often does but using the same logic as to why Favre is in MN, he's better than anything else we have. Williams is going to have to step it up big time, Underwood will get killed. If they bring in Bush, turn off the TV. It will be ugly.
Pack could possibly make the playoffs as a wild card but I doubt they get past the first round. The Giants did show however, that anything is possible on any given Sunday. Obviously each playoff game everybody has to go 100% b/c a loss=end of season. Injuries can change any teams season.
Vikes-N-Favre says:
November 23, 2009 12:15 AM
Funny how GB fans can't even spell Kampman right.
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It's about as funny as Vikings fans who can't spell Favre.
Radio- you are a typical retarded Packer fan. Yeah, lets compare how each team played against SF (which both teams won) and NOT compare the 2 head to head match ups. You are worthless!!!
I agree Adam. Brent at least deserves to have his name spelled correctly.
Harris is constantly attacking the sides of the knees on opponents in an apparent attempt to cause injury or get in their head. Karma?
footballrulz says:
Williams is going to have to step it up big time, Underwood will get killed. If they bring in Bush, turn off the TV. It will be ugly.
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I know I'm alone in this, but I have confidence in Williams. He has the physical tools and was more than adequate filling in when Harris was out last year. Sure, he got burned quite a bit, but it's not like Harris never is.
With Woodson now firmly covering the #1's, I don't see anyone else on our schedule except the Refs who can provide a significant mismatch for Williams. Losing Harris is far from ideal, but I don't think it's worth writing off the whole season just yet.
Underwood is still very raw. In 2-3 years, I could see him becoming a valuable player. Not this season though. He still needs time to develop.
Bush is a complete disaster. "Turn off the TV" is a pretty accurate assessment. I honestly believe Thompson's matching the Titans' offer to make sure we kept him was just as bad as his drafting Harrell.
Having Bush in the nickel is enough of a liability. I don't want to think about what if one more injury forces him to start. We maybe might as well just re-sign Carroll and take our chances at that point.
Pervy,
Do us all a favor, and please, move out of your parent's basement, would you? I'm sure your McJob can at least pay enough to get you a used trailer somewhere in a nice little trailer park. Heck, maybe you should also consider slowing down on wacking off to the Wilson Phillips videos of your youth as well. I hate to break this to you, but Carney did actually put the weight back on.
Go back to school, get a GED, and maybe, one day, you can move from washing lettuce to making the fries, because, of course, that's when the big bucks start rolling in.
"Shove that 60's crap football. Caveman ball hardly counts in the realm of modern football. Sure.you won 2 model T bowls in the 60's ,big deal. You could still find dinosaur bones then in farmers fields."
The NFL started in the '20s, not the '70s. So therefore, it counts. Every single one.
and to the Viking fans saying Al Harris got what he deserved....go to hell. What Harris did to Peterson was called a tackle. If you don't like it, then don't watch football you classless sissies.
Hey I used to whack off to the one with the short blonde hair. So what?
@ bjmouthfiller - Wow,Wilson Phillips jabs,parent's basement, GED and fast food .The most over used,unoriginal,cliche bullshit that has been said on here forever. You know,by the inbred spawn of genetic outcasts like yourself who can't come original.
It is obvious to me like the best part of you ran down the crack of your mama's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress.Did your parents have any children that lived? I'll tell you what. Why don't we take those scrambled brains you got and build a shelter for the homeless, so maybe your mother will have a place to stay.You can join her. Football talk my furry little turd,is not your cup of tea.I swear, dealing with dokes like you is like watching retards hump door handles. Tell your Mom she has my sympathies. She has your Birth Certificate framed. It's an apology from the condom factory!
Pervy Harvin-
You Pack jacks make me laugh. We have won nothing??How about this year will be our 18 NFC North Title. Packers have 10,wow we almost double you!!
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Pervy the Nfc North hasnt been around for 28 seasons. I am embarrased for you.
Pervy, Pervy......is that the best you can do? Making jokes about retards? Seriously?
I guess that's how people who hide behind fake names roll on the internet. You are a man, I'll give you that. And scary, too.
Why am I guessing you were the inspiration for the movie "The Fan"? Is this the best your sad, despressing little life is - talking smack behind a fake name on a chat board?
Well, go back into your Mitty-esque fantasy life where you are everything you're not in real life. I'll make sure I double my donations this year to the Salvation Army so you can have a thanksgiving meal....
....that wasn't half-eaten by someone else, first.
PervyHarvin says:
November 23, 2009 2:34 PM
@ bjmouthfiller - Wow,Wilson Phillips jabs,parent's basement, GED and fast food .The most over used,unoriginal,cliche bullshit that has been said on here forever. You know,by the inbred spawn of genetic outcasts like yourself who can't come original.
It is obvious to me like the best part of you ran down the crack of your mama's ass and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress.Did your parents have any children that lived? I'll tell you what. Why don't we take those scrambled brains you got and build a shelter for the homeless, so maybe your mother will have a place to stay.You can join her. Football talk my furry little turd,is not your cup of tea.I swear, dealing with dokes like you is like watching retards hump door handles. Tell your Mom she has my sympathies. She has your Birth Certificate framed. It's an apology from the condom factory!
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Supersuckers says:
November 23, 2009 3:06 PM
Pervy Harvin-
You Pack jacks make me laugh. We have won nothing??How about this year will be our 18 NFC North Title. Packers have 10,wow we almost double you!!
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Pervy the Nfc North hasnt been around for 28 seasons. I am embarrased for you.
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Suckers,do you always knit pick shit?? LOL You know what I meant. NFC Central from 1967 then North in 2002. GEEZ About all I can get called on,enjoy the crumb!
@bjgiver - Sorry douche,if DeNiro was to do me,would be Raging Bull. Was a boxer slappy, not some white collar pinhead like you. Do you have to sneak online to play PFT at work?Guys like me retire at 36,have fun making the company rich. Don't worry about donating to me, my Fidelity is doing just fine. Let me guess,you tied down to one old lady who wears the pants?Gains weight by the year? LOL Damn,I'm blessed. No Walter Mitty shit over here.
You just keep that Salvation Army money bud, in this economy you may end up toting a shine box buddy.
@ Adam Chris- Wow. Now I totally understand why Chickenfoot bashes you constantly. That was stupid,I will never get that 5 seconds back will I? Damn
@bjgiver - Will you please go away. Time to talk football with people who know it. That excludes you.You are the perfect ignoranus: A person who's both stupid and an asshole.
It also excludes you Pervy.
@ Supersuckers - You really want to go there? I will bear no mercy just because you are Chickenfoots friend. Go argue with BeerCheese!
PervyHarvin says:
November 23, 2009 3:38 PM
@ Adam Chris- Wow. Now I totally understand why Chickenfoot bashes you constantly. That was stupid,I will never get that 5 seconds back will I? Damn
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Stupid? I guess you'd know something about that. Leave it to the guy who bashes another guy for clichés, then piles on with several of his own. You can't possibly be that stupid. Unless you were a terrible boxer. Then you might be that dumb.
By the way, I don't give a shit that Chickendick "bashes me". He comes off sounding stupid every time he clicks the submit button.
Pervy-
I'm not sure if you read a lot of Suck's posts, but he always says stuff like that. The point he was making is that, in his mind, NONE of us know anything about football, and (as he's proud to admit, for some mind-boggling reason) that means him more than anyone.
He wasn't calling you out personally. He was just taking another opportunity to remind us how little we all know, and in so doing praise and fantasize about his idol, the almighty Ted Thompson. Who is, at least in Suck's mind, the only true football expert on the planet.
He always says he knows nothing, that we all know nothing, that we are all a bunch of worthless nobodies just because we're not NFL GMs, and that none of us have any right to talk about football at all, even though for some reason he continues to do it. Then he either prays or jacks off to pictures of Ted, gladly accepts all the losses the Ted regime has brought, and yet still calls himself a Packers fan. He's completely out of his mind.
My advice: learn from MY mistakes, and don't waste your time arguing with him. You won't get anywhere. If you make a good point, he'll still say you know nothing and therefore what you say is irrelevant, and if you catch him and make him look stupid, he'll say it's because HE knows nothing. Then he'll "consider it your concession" when you don't want to take a week off work and fly (in my case from Seattle) to Wisconsin to meet him at his house.
Trust me, you're better just leaving it alone. Maybe if we all just ignore him, we can get him to "retire" from this site again. That was a nice enjoyable few days.
LOL Thanks BeerCheese. I think you got it figured out!
Personally I can put up with Super much better than his alter egos, Hydra & angrychicken. Pervy you have already heard this but wouldn't it really be just weird if by some strange twist of fate they (TT &MM) both stayed on, TT had a bang up draft & MM actually proved he could coach people & GB had a great year. Then Super could say I know nothing, but I knew it all along.
Ain't gonna happen but it would be weird.
yes Thank YOU Beer Cheese, You taking the time with your manifesto only proves me more correct. This season hasn't started yet AND i DARE you to go to Green Bay and try to get into the building and say the garbage you say to the employees of the Green Bay Packers.
Well footballrulz lets talk at the end of the year.
Sincerely,
Your Master
Supersuckers says:
yes Thank YOU Beer Cheese, You taking the time with your manifesto only proves me more correct. This season hasn't started yet AND i DARE you to go to Green Bay and try to get into the building and say the garbage you say to the employees of the Green Bay Packers.
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Sure anytime, although I fail to see how you could ever be correct about anything when you know nothing.
Like when the season began, for instance. Most of us know that was back in Sept, but not you. You still think it hasn't happened yet.
With that level of intelligence, it's no wonder you completely ignore facts and still think Thompson's a good GM. Are you and Bob Nelson related?
Also, once again, the only way I can do right in your mind is to fly to Wisconsin, which, for reasons I DON'T have to state, isn't happening. You should know this, that's why you keep saying it. That's typical.
One thing though: When Ted is gone, after this season, will you either be gone as well or admit what a total douche you've been? That's all I would ever ask..
I notice you don't even debate me anymore 2tapered shitterson.
You just go on bashing me to others. At least you know your place now.
That's what punk bitches like you do. run away.
It's what I expected out of you.
Why don't you just stick a fork in a toaster already? No one would miss you.
Beer Cheese,
I will bet you any amount of dollars you want that Thompson isn't gone at the end of the season. You name it. Its put up or shut up time. Any faults on this team isn't due to personnel. McCarthy is the one on the hot seat. Not Thompson. Did you subscribe to your coaches copy yet? Or are you still following the ball on a ten second delay on Sundays? You have no idea what you are looking at son. None. If you think Thompson is responsible for poor kick coverage, poor pass blocking, the overuse of the 54 yard field goal which even in the NFL is made only 43 percent of the time and results in the COMPLETE reversal of positive field posiition if unsuccessful, overplaying to the QB's strengths which play right into one of your weaknesses (7 step drop pass blocking) pre snap penalties, sending 2 wideouts against 6 db's and a linebacker and wondering why Rodgers has a time clock issue.....then you are beyond gaining any knowledge. Thompson isn't the problem. He doesnt control those things. he never will. Thats not his job. trust me if there was "outside help out there better then what they have they would bring them in, he has proven that. i am so sick and tired of you bashing Thompson when you don't have a CLUE what you are looking at or talking about. He isn't going anywhere. Besides as we sit we control our own destiny. This team after the Tampa debacle has responded well and McCarthy has done a good job with that the last two weeks. Now, there is a ton of season left. Lets see what happens.
Beer Cheese,
on eother thing since you are too dumb to realize was the you know nothing (as do I) was your mind being played with successfully as one post you admitted you knew nothing and were a football idiot. you lost. I played with your head and outsmarted you and got you to admit how dumb you are when it comes to football. I do not know about the other stuff. i do know this. I am way smarter than you and successfully tricked your human brain into admitting you were a football moron. That was my goal.
You disappear on every thread we are on together....EINSTEIN!
You come back with the lamest crap ever and think you have the upper hand.
When in reality, stat boy, you are just a 1 trick pony, that doesn't have a clue about anything.
That Pervy is getting into it with you, just proves my point. He knows his shit, and you come on with your inane shit and bravado, and then wonder why you are in the center of arguments all the time.
Here's a hint, it's you, not us.
Adam,
When Chicken or anyone else sees one disappear from a thread it irritates them because now they are wondering if the person they were arguing with saw their response. Which drives them crazy. I would keep it up. Post some dumb stat like they claim you do and disappear. THEN..they will seek you out and start commenting on your argument with someone else just reel you back in.
Selfsucker says:
Beer Cheese,
I am way smarter than you and successfully tricked your human brain into admitting you were a football moron. That was my goal.
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Okay, that's officially my limit.
You post how smart you are in this thread, yet in another the best you can come up with is a line about Iranian noodles and the biggest loser. That's definitely the mark of a true genius there.
I'm done wasting time I'll never get back trying to make sense of your half-bait insults, delusions and sanctimonious ramblings. AGAIN.
I'll look forward to your next "retirement" from this site, when either people calling you out for your lunacy, people hating on your true love Ted, or the voices in your head arguing amongst themselves gets to be too much for you to handle once again.
You go ahead and have a nice life, at least until you end up in a padded room. Bye now.
You aren't smart enough to make sense of it all. You'll be back. You can count on it. Did you subscribe to your access to the coaches copy yet? Or are you going to analyze based on the tv? Have you applied for a position with a team in the NFL yet? Or are you going to criticize a man that heads up the football operations of a playoff contending club? With Beer Cheese Soup credentials. Which are no credentials.
Hey, lets face it, you admitted you knew nothing and were a football nobody a week ago. That means you cannot go back on that admission and post anything and expect anyone to take it seriously. We have to take you for your word when you said you were a football idiot.
Adam,
Speaking of turds and shits we have a annual turd contest up here in the state of Minnesota. next year it will be called Big Turd2010. How it works is after you take a dump and turn around to admire its size and width (you know you do it) you snap a photo on your cell phone of the shit, single or double tapered it doesn't matter, and send it via email with your name to a email address i will provide you if you are interested. There is a nominal $5 entry fee which goes to the prize pool and maintenance costs of the website. At the end of the year our panel of judges will selects ten turds to be sent back out to all the people that entered a turd that year for a mass vote. Winner takes all as far as the cash and possesses the traveling trophy for the next years contest. Would you be interested? If so send me your email as we like to send out a mailer and a welcome packet.
Chicken, Pervy, Beer Cheese, Adam, & Super
Ya'll have a happy Thanksgiving. C U on Friday.
Super, you are no one's master.
I agree
Chickenfoot says:
November 24, 2009 11:32 AM
You disappear on every thread we are on together....EINSTEIN!
You come back with the lamest crap ever and think you have the upper hand.
When in reality, stat boy, you are just a 1 trick pony, that doesn't have a clue about anything.
That Pervy is getting into it with you, just proves my point. He knows his shit, and you come on with your inane shit and bravado, and then wonder why you are in the center of arguments all the time.
Here's a hint, it's you, not us.
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You're an idiot. You throw all kinds of boastful bullshit out there but never back anything up with facts. I ask you to bring up one time when you've had the upper hand in a discussion. Once again, you fail. But I'm sure you're used to it.
And yeah, Pervy knows his shit. That's hilarious. Did you even read his '96 Packers/'09 Vikings comparison? Didn't he line up a corner and safety against each other? He might as well have compared Loadholt's blocking to Desmond Howard's. He's been wearing your purple-tinted glasses.. And probably your purple zippered footy pajamas and blonde braids as well.
Supersuckers says:
November 24, 2009 11:49 AM
Adam,
When Chicken or anyone else sees one disappear from a thread it irritates them because now they are wondering if the person they were arguing with saw their response. Which drives them crazy. I would keep it up. Post some dumb stat like they claim you do and disappear. THEN..they will seek you out and start commenting on your argument with someone else just reel you back in.
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He's a dipshit. In reality I do have a job and there are times when I don't have time to try, in vain, to educate his ignorant ass. This week was one of those times. I don't think I visited this site on either Tuesday or Wednesday. And I rarely come here on weekends or at night. But it's another excuse for him to claim superiority without actually doing anything.
footballrulz says:
November 24, 2009 6:19 PM
Chicken, Pervy, Beer Cheese, Adam, & Super
Ya'll have a happy Thanksgiving. C U on Friday.
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You too.