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Schwartz says Mangini is "way out of bounds"

Cleveland Browns coach Eric Mangini suggested today that the Detroit Lions’ defense may have faked injuries during Sunday’s game in an effort to slow down the Browns’ no-huddle offense.

When told about Mangini’s comments, Lions coach Jim Schwartz wasn’t pleased.

He’s way out of bounds on that,” Schwartz said, per the Detroit Free Press. “That couldn’t be further than the truth. There was no need to do that to slow the pace down, because the officials were doing a really good job of standing over the ball for us and them.

“We used a lot of no-huddle also, and I thought that the crew did a really good job of making sure that substitutes were allowed to come from either side if the offense substituted. So that game was under control that way.

“There was no need to do any of that stuff. That couldn’t be further from the truth.”

Schwartz also dismissed the Browns’ complaints about the pass interference penalty that set up the Lions’ game-winning touchdown with no time left. Schwartz said he thinks the Browns don’t understand the pass interference rules.

“They don’t know what they’re talking about,” Schwartz said. “You can quote me on that.”

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  1. wrath4771 says: Nov 23, 2009 7:01 PM

    They may not win another game for quite some time, but damn that was a good win for the Lions.

  2. Florio-is-a-tool says: Nov 23, 2009 7:04 PM

    One of those organizations is on the way up and the other is wallowing in mediocrity. Mangini’s obituary is going to be something else…

  3. CD_Ridge says: Nov 23, 2009 7:05 PM

    Looks like the makings of fine rivalry.

  4. Richm2256 says: Nov 23, 2009 7:05 PM

    Schwartz said he thinks the Browns don’t understand the pass interference rules.
    “They don’t know what they’re talking about,” Schwartz said. “You can quote me on that.”
    This, from a guy Mangini said he was “friends” with!
    Of course, he (Schwartz) is just stating what every football player, coach, writer, and fan have known for a while.

  5. KingJoe! says: Nov 23, 2009 7:06 PM

    Mangini screwed up calling the timeout, his players seem to detest him, his team is horrible, he looks clueless on offense, defense and general coaching; he is simply trying to throw anything out there to cover his ineptitude up. He will be fired adn probably end up coaching at a division 2 college for a while.

  6. rjgreen3 says: Nov 23, 2009 7:07 PM

    Why should the Lions fake injuries during the no-huddle when the defense can make substitutions when the offense makes subs. Minigenius just let’s us all know how DUMB he really is everytime he opens his trash hole!

  7. Vikefanman says: Nov 23, 2009 7:07 PM

    ROAR!

  8. FireJerryJones says: Nov 23, 2009 7:09 PM

    No class from Cleveland.
    Tebow will look good in Orange and Brown.
    That was the Matthew Staford coming out party.

  9. VonCreeper says: Nov 23, 2009 7:09 PM

    At this rate, Mangini will be lucky to get a job as a used car salesman. Are there any bridges he hasn’t burned at this point? What a clown. If I was a Browns fan, I’d be totally fine with paying this idiot not to run my team.

  10. Vikefanman says: Nov 23, 2009 7:09 PM

    You have to admit….Mangenius sounds pretty stupid suggesting that a 1-8 team cheated their way to victory over his 1-8 team! The scandal of it all!

  11. Hosstyle In Tampa says: Nov 23, 2009 7:13 PM

    Good for Schwartz….Mangini’s gonna coach himself out of the league…

  12. SpartaChris says: Nov 23, 2009 7:13 PM

    The more I see and hear from Mangini, the more I think the guy is just a douche. He’s really becoming an embarrassment for the NFL.

  13. danmateus75 says: Nov 23, 2009 7:16 PM

    Beth Stern is way out of bounds.

  14. Loftus says: Nov 23, 2009 7:18 PM

    “There was not need to do any of that stuff.”
    Right, because that defense was playing so well.

  15. Ravenmaniac says: Nov 23, 2009 7:18 PM

    How much longer will Lerner put up with this…..I hope for years!!!

  16. HBOilers24 says: Nov 23, 2009 7:32 PM

    can we please put a gag on mangini? its bad enough we have to show how stupid he is as a coach when we play, then he gets to talk and go even further?
    its like he’s saying “if you thought i was stupid as a coach just wait till i get to talk!”

  17. slipkid says: Nov 23, 2009 7:35 PM

    yall brownies better hope lerner is lernin.

  18. Sourdough says: Nov 23, 2009 7:36 PM

    Mangini: Scottish for crap!

  19. urbusted says: Nov 23, 2009 7:42 PM

    KingJoe! says:
    November 23, 2009 7:06 PM
    Mangini screwed up calling the timeout
    He wanted to get Rogers in the line up for one thing. I listened to the press conference and a reporter used the cheating inference, not Mangini. He only said that there a lot of injuries. He also said that there were no penalties. It wasn’t as bad as some would lead you to believe. I think he should have kept his mouth shut however.

  20. cbrianwatkins says: Nov 23, 2009 7:46 PM

    I have a strange feeling Mangina would be extremely compatible with Florio’s hair
    and i mean that in a very Adam Lambert kind of way

  21. tian says: Nov 23, 2009 7:52 PM

    wrath4771 said “They may not win another game for quite some time, but damn that was a good win for the Lions.”
    I totally agree. I’m not a Lions fan either, but I’ve always thought Matthew Stafford was gritty and old school. That farm boy makes me wish that NFL Films still came on TV on Saturday afternoons.
    (Oh, and if you want young boys to go outside and play? Play some of that NFL Film music, film a perfect spiral and let it move slowly across the television screen with some symphony playing in the background. That used to get me outside to play football in the snow.)

  22. VonClausewitz says: Nov 23, 2009 8:00 PM

    Honestly I’m at the point where I’ve done a complete reversal and want Mangini to stick around. Say what you want about his general crazitude but a guy like this who week after arduous week just seems to find controversy in the most effortless way possible…. well this is untapped comic genius.
    I hope Mangini sticks around forever. It’s like a reality show where Mangini gets to be head coach of an NFL team. I hope the league realizes what it’s got here and puts a camera and mic on him 24/7. This is must-see tv. Ok, ok I know what you’re thinking. Yeah he’s funny now but can he sustain it? My answer to you? Who cares! There’s always his career after football. I envision someone like George Plimpton but more intense and free of psychological impediment, like caring The spinoff potential is uncharted. Mangini as head of neurosurgery. Mangini as lead singer of Aerosmith.
    It can’t be that crazy to hope for.

  23. rjm1111 says: Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM

    So where does Mangini wind up next season – South Bend, or Ann Arbor???

  24. Occam says: Nov 23, 2009 8:01 PM

    Oh man, it’s gonna be great when these two teams meet in the playoffs.

  25. Whiskeytangofoxtrot says: Nov 23, 2009 8:05 PM

    The Browns should trade Mangenius to the Raiders for JaMarcus Russell. It would be about an even swap.

  26. JoeSixPack says: Nov 23, 2009 8:07 PM

    Richm2256 says: This, from a guy Mangini said he was “friends” with!
    You mean like Mangini is friends with George Kokinis? Or the way he’s friends with Mike Tannenbaum? Or the way he’s friends with Bill Belichick.

  27. ToledoLions says: Nov 23, 2009 8:09 PM

    Loftus,
    Just to inform you the Lions only gave up 3 offensive points from the end of the first quarter to the clowns final TD in the 4th quarter. So at that point in the game they had made many adjustments and yes they were playing pretty damn good. If it wasn’t for the missed tackles on the Cribbs catch the Browns wouldn’t have even sniffed the red zone for the rest of the game.
    So why would they fake injuries when they were completely shutting down the potent Clowns offense after they made the adjustments when they were down 24-3. The lions made great adjustments on offense and defense after the 1st quarter and completely OWNED the Clowns for the last 3 quarters except for a couple missed tackles that led to a TD. So Browns fans DEAL WITH IT. Except for the 1st quarter you got dominated and that is the fault of your coaching staff for doing the same thing all game and not making adjustments when the Lions did.

  28. Richm2256 says: Nov 23, 2009 8:15 PM

    “The Browns should trade Mangenius to the Raiders for JaMarcus Russell. It would be about an even swap.”
    Not really; Jamarcus pounds more donuts.

  29. Drat says: Nov 23, 2009 8:31 PM

    Why does everyone think the Lions are on the way up? They just won against the worst team in the league by one point based on luck and horrible decision making by Mangini. They lost to the Rams. This is the way up? Hell, two years ago they won 7 games and had a realistic shot at the playoffs in mid-season. I see bouncing along the bottom, no movement up.

  30. bigbolt says: Nov 23, 2009 8:47 PM

    Eric Manweenie strikes again!!!

  31. forty5ford says: Nov 23, 2009 8:47 PM

    I question if Mangini is even qualified to coach a Tiny-Mite team of 5, 6 and 7 year olds in the Pop Warner football.

  32. GoBrowns19 says: Nov 23, 2009 9:14 PM

    Why is everyone so stupid? Every NFL team has their players lay down when the no huddles getting them. I saw Mangini’s presser and his answers match that logic. Everyone knows that everyone else knows that everyone else knows, except stupid fans and writers.

  33. tobago says: Nov 23, 2009 9:45 PM

    The Lions coach is right, Mangini is just grasping at straws, he knows his days are numbered in Cleveland and in the league period.

  34. ajd78 says: Nov 23, 2009 9:52 PM

    Obviously Schwartz doesn’t understand the rules or he would be saying ” man we really got a lucky call today” . If this call is legit I want to see the same call on every hail Mary pass for the rest of the season. Watch the film it’s called on a guy 6 yds away from the ball and the intended reciever. Illegal contact at best. If this were the Patriots it would be getting disected to the 10 th degree and appologies sent out ect. ect. But it’s a 1-9 team so it’s Staffords ” coming out party”. The Browns were screwed big time. Schwartz should just shut up and accept his early Christmas gift from the league. They won’t win another game.

  35. SmackMyVickUp says: Nov 23, 2009 9:57 PM

    Schwartz also dismissed the Browns’ complaints about the pass interference penalty that set up the Lions’ game-winning touchdown with no time left.
    ——————
    Watch the replay where a defender pushes Calvin Johnson out of the back of the endzone. Blatantly done, would be a crime for the ref to not call that.
    Seriously. You cannot push a guy away from the play, would of had better chance with the jump ball, but the idiot pushed him out.

  36. ToledoLions says: Nov 23, 2009 10:22 PM

    ajd78,
    Really dude. or Bryant Johnson was 2 yards behind the play getting bear hugged while the ball is in the air. Jesus you Clowns fans are ridiculous sore losers. You would think with a team as bad as yours you would just learn to be gracious in defeat and put the blame inward on the coaches and players for BLOWING a 24-3 lead. We did last year. You should thank us for giving you the 1st pick in the draft because it’s painfully obvious that your pathetic has a severe lack of talent. The only thing that pick can’t get you is dignity and respect as a franchise which you will probably never get. The Clowns won’t win another game for at least another year that was your last chance and you blew it. YOU and your team suck ass. Quit bitching and learn to accept defeat because you will be seeing a lot of it for the next decade or so. And congratulations on your receivers finally getting a TD hahahahahahaha it’s probably the only game you’ll get to see that. Man your team is god awful pathetic. If I were a Clowns fan like you I would switch teams or off myself. Either way you won’t be missed.
    If what Poteat did is common practice and never called then on every hail mary the defenders could just tackle all the receivers down field and not have to worry about anybody catching the ball. Bryant Johnson got wrapped up and driven out of the back of the endzone and Calvin Johnson got pulled down to the ground all while the ball was in the air. That’s not defending a pass that’s just tackling everybody in the endzone so they don’t have a chance. Yea dude that’s great defense or as knowledgeable football fans know PASS INTERFERENCE. Man dude i wish the Lions would have played the pathetic franchise known as the Browns last year because then we wouldn’t have went 0-16. And if it weren’t for how pathetic the Bills offense is you would be 0-16 this year. So thank the refs in that game because they gift wrapped you a win you whiny bitch.

  37. CO_Pats_Fan says: Nov 23, 2009 10:30 PM

    Ever since Mangenius called out the Pats on what every team in the league does (filming opposing teams), he has been lousy. Karma has a way of making everything work out. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out of the NFL Mangenius!

  38. salty says: Nov 23, 2009 10:32 PM

    anyone who watched the game knows that mangini is right (for once)…
    the real question is – look at the two teams’ rosters – the lions have a MUCH better squad and they had to scramble (and cheat) and get lucky to win? not good lions, not good.

  39. UniBallOut says: Nov 23, 2009 10:33 PM

    Plus, the guy doing the pushing had his back to the ball. Typically, for a Hail Mary, everyone is facing the QB. Defenders have a right to the ball as much as the WRs as long they are trying to make a play on the football. Which is why all the pushing never gets a pass interference call.
    But in this case, the defender was too busy pushing the Lion’s WR that he didn’t even see the ball get thrown. He was not playing the ball so it was blatant pass interference.

  40. geek says: Nov 23, 2009 10:56 PM

    Stop me if you’ve heard this one before… Eric Mangini is skating on thin ice, and he loses a game he wanted to win. So, he accuses the other coach of cheating…

  41. simple_simon1 says: Nov 23, 2009 10:56 PM

    How pathetic can Browns fans be? Come on. Good for you Schwartz. I like you better every day.
    Schwartz is right. Learn the rules browns. If you don’t know rules then shut the hell up and don’t speak at all. It makes you look like an idiot.
    It’s not he Lions fault you let yourself lose. Mangini needs to learn the rules.

  42. simple_simon1 says: Nov 23, 2009 11:13 PM

    Salty…. Learn the rules..period!!!

  43. Dawgpound2009 says: Nov 23, 2009 11:17 PM

    Penguini just keeps cranking out the hits- I honestly think Mangini is the only person alive who would lose a popularity contest to Osama Bin Laden if it were held.
    He doesnt have the balls to directly accuse someone of doing something, nor does he have the backbone to answer a question directly when asked. Maybe, there will be a spot for him on “dancing with the stars”. With the way he tiptoes around questions in his press conferences, he would look like Michael Flatley.
    I think Randy Lerner thinks NFL stands for New Fat Lameass whenever he hires a coach because that is what the two have been . Hire Charlie Weis as your new head coach and you’ll have a hat trick , Mr. Lerner!

  44. rufusdingo says: Nov 23, 2009 11:32 PM

    I bet Lerner is burning up the phone lines to his attorneys trying to determine if stupidity qualifies for “cause”…

  45. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 1:41 AM

    Not sure why you “ass” ume I’m a Browns fan. Maybe you should learn the rules. Poteat was called for interference. He wasn’t guarding Calvin Johnson. And the defender is allowed to run the reciever out of bounds after the qb leaves the pocket. When the ball is in the air that’s another story. You obviously don’t understand the rule. He has to be the intended reciever AND the ball had to be catchable. The guy in the back of the endzone where the flag was thrown wasn’t the intended reciever and was six yds away from the ball. Illegal contact yes. 5 yd penalty 1st down one more play. Not 1st and goal from the one. Merry Christmas. NFL.com has the rules on their site if you care to educate yourself. But after reading your post I doubt it. Just a fan of the game. That’s why I have no stupid team reference in my handle.

  46. Satanic Hell Creature says: Nov 24, 2009 3:35 AM

    I remember people bashing Bellichick for saying Mangidiot wasn’t ready to be a head coach. They said he was just trying to hold Mangidiot back. Bellichick supported his other coordinators when they moved on. I think the last couple of years proves that the idiot isn’t ready, and is so pompous, he may never become what it takes to be a coach at this level, probably not even college.
    After turning rat against his fellow coaches (videogate), I doubt any other head coaches will bring him on as a coordinator in the NFL after he totally washes out in this job.

  47. MistrezzRachael says: Nov 24, 2009 7:17 AM

    Didn’t this game just continue to expose Mangini as way over his head coaching an NFL franchise.
    Mangini is nothing more than an opportunist..Time/failures has eventually ciaught up to him as a fraud.
    enjoy it Eric…you’ll never be a head coach again.

  48. pfii63 says: Nov 24, 2009 8:40 AM

    I assure everyone that Mangini participated in illegal taping before he ratted out Belichick, and I assure everyone that Mangenius has told his share of players to stay on the ground to affect the game. To cast that accusation at Detroit without proof is simply his attempt to create a distraction so people won’t blame the loss on his sorry ass.
    At the very best, this tool is disingenuous. At the very worst, he is a sniveling, whining, little peckerhead who will be unemployed again very soon.

  49. bloodystupidjohnson says: Nov 24, 2009 11:10 AM

    If you watched the game, sorry Detroit, it was obvious they were faking some of these injures.
    A couple times a “injured” player would come off the field, then could be seem laughing on the side lines. If you have been injured, would you be next seen laughing and joking on the side lines?

  50. Buddah12919 says: Nov 24, 2009 11:48 AM

    Read through all the comments and you are right on 1 point Mangini is worthless, but? The rules say the game cannot end on a defensive penalty right? Well they were setup to run play and detroit was charged an injury timeout? How they were out of timeouts this results in an offensive penalty game over? I think they screwed the pooch and nobody has seemed to mention this. Yes the Browns defense played poorly and should have lost the game but by the rules they should have won due to the injury timeout. Mangini did not call a time out till after that.

  51. sagnam says: Nov 24, 2009 12:19 PM

    ajd78 says: November 24, 2009 1:41 AM
    Not sure why you “ass” ume I’m a Browns fan. Maybe you should learn the rules. Poteat was called for interference. He wasn’t guarding Calvin Johnson. And the defender is allowed to run the reciever out of bounds after the qb leaves the pocket. When the ball is in the air that’s another story. You obviously don’t understand the rule. He has to be the intended reciever AND the ball had to be catchable. The guy in the back of the endzone where the flag was thrown wasn’t the intended reciever and was six yds away from the ball. Illegal contact yes. 5 yd penalty 1st down one more play. Not 1st and goal from the one. Merry Christmas. NFL.com has the rules on their site if you care to educate yourself. But after reading your post I doubt it. Just a fan of the game. That’s why I have no stupid team reference in my handle.
    ————–
    Just stop trying, seriously. Every comment you make just makes you look worse.
    1) NFL Network kept isolating the push out while the ball was in the air. They made it clear, you cannot turn your back to a pass in the air and push a receiver. Being out of the pocket doesn’t matter, being the “intended receiver” doesn’t matter. It’s a hail mary, there is no intended receiver.
    2) A 40 some odd yard hail mary type lob pass is uncatchable by a player 6 yards away? Seriously? Well, I guess it is uncatchable when the defender “covering” him just wraps him up and runs him out of the endzone.
    Give this one up. Idiot.

  52. KennyPowers says: Nov 24, 2009 1:46 PM

    Haha…I love how this year’s toilet bowl has strewn up so much controversy! I actually had to watch this game and yes, the Lions players were faking injuries often…there is no doubt about that. The truth is that the Browns’ coaching staff coached themselves out of a victory by refusing to move away from running Jamal 1yd-up-the-middle-on-1st-and-2nd-down Lewis. I guess they thought they had the game in hand and would try to control the clock with their running game. The problem: they have no running back.
    On the penalty, it was definitely a pentaly, but probably should’ve been called illegal contact or defensive holding. The ball was no where near the WR, and it was a hail mary. I believe the stat was recited elsewhere that a pass interference penalty hasn’t happened on a hail mary since the early 1980s. I agree with the poster that said if this were a meaningful game, this penalty call would be drawing a lot more scrutiny. The fact that the ref who called the penalty is the same ref who worked the bottle-gate game vs Jacksonville a few years ago might’ve had something to do with it. If Poteat (how is he still in the league???) would’ve at least face the QB, they wouldn’t have called anything. The fact that the Lions got a 4th time out is plain ridiculous.
    Let’s be honest, the Lions were in jeopardy of becoming historically bad (something like 1-31 in their last 32 games?!?!) and the NFL (and Mangini) threw them a bone. That Browns fans are trying to defend their coaching staff and that Lions fans are coming out of the woodwork to talk trash is completely laughable.

  53. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 2:54 PM

    18 feet away is catchable? No specific intended reciever? K dude. Yeah. I’m the idiot.

  54. sagnam says: Nov 24, 2009 3:51 PM

    Wait, so you are seriously claiming that a hail mary pass is intended for a specific receiver? Really? Ha. Wow.
    Look, the ball was catchable by Brian Johnson at the location it was intercepted at the time Stafford threw the pass. Pass interference is why the receiver ended up 18 feet away and on the ground when the ball was intercepted.
    Glad to see you’ve accepted your idiocy.

  55. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 4:18 PM

    He was standing up and the DB was standing in front of him. I bet the three recievers on the other side of the endzone had a shot too huh. 18 feet away must be the type of accuracy expeted in Detroit these days huh. Idiot.

  56. ToledoLions says: Nov 24, 2009 4:26 PM

    ajd78,
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/peter_king/2009/11/23/0911.pk-week11.SportsIllustrated/index.html
    Since you probably can’t read, which would explain why you can’t figure out the rules, here is a video for you explaining the rules and why they were the correct calls.

  57. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 4:41 PM

    No thanks. I can think for myself which is obviously more than I can say for you. Keep those 7 th grade jokes rolling though I enjoy the flashback!!

  58. sagnam says: Nov 24, 2009 5:05 PM

    # ajd78 says: November 24, 2009 4:18 PM
    He was standing up and the DB was standing in front of him.

    Really?
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/bj_not_on_turf.png
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/bj_not_on_turf2.png
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/bj_not_on_turf3.png
    # ajd78 says: November 24, 2009 4:18 PM
    I bet the three recievers on the other side of the endzone had a shot too huh. 18 feet away must be the type of accuracy expeted in Detroit these days huh. Idiot.
    ——
    Again, you seem to be a little slow to understand simple concepts. The location that the ball was intercepted would have been easily reachable by Johnson had Poteat not been pushing him while the ball was in the air.
    Where Johnson was when the ball was thrown
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/not_pass_interference.png
    Where the pass was intercepted.
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/definitely_not_catchable.png
    You are one inept individual.

  59. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 5:37 PM

    Wow that was clear proof of it. The only player I saw taken out of the play was the Brown who was tackled by the Lions reciever. You sir are the definition of inept. No he had no intended reciever that’s why he scrambled for three minutes waiting for Calvin Johnson to get open. I don’t blame him their . So you don’t fry your brain attempting to figure it out that was sarcasm. Moron. Hell I was watching it on tv I was in the vacinity as well by your definition. More sarcasm. Just so you know.

  60. sagnam says: Nov 24, 2009 6:04 PM

    All you’ve provided is your opinion based your claim of watching the game live and then magically knowing exactly what happened. No analysis, no evidence, just your opinion.
    Apparently you’re official response is “I’m not a fan of facts. Facts can change all the time, but my opinion will never change.” Excellent.

  61. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 6:28 PM

    Wow that was brilliant. Facts can change all of the time. No , but your opinion of them can. The way you interpret the facts can change, but facts are cut and dry. Hence the term. You sir are a beautiful mess. Wait a minute, some Titans – Texans replays are being aired. I was just stood in front of while watching. And there goes the flag.

  62. sagnam says: Nov 24, 2009 6:57 PM

    Stephen Colbert

  63. ToledoLions says: Nov 24, 2009 8:09 PM

    sagnam just give it up he’s obviously not gonna change his opinion despite physical evidence and explanations of the rules that contradict his stance and prove everything he is saying or believes about the situation completely and utterly wrong beyond a doubt. He didn’t watch that video because as long as he doesn’t know the rules or procedures he can stand strong and use negligence as his defense. It is just an explanation of the rules and not some guy telling you what to think. So yea you use your brain to think for yourself but I just wonder how many times your stubbornness get’s in the way of you actually knowing the truth. Your seem like one of those people who think we never landed on the moon or that the government was responsible for 9/11 and nobody can prove you wrong or change your opinion.
    And you clearly either didn’t read the rules or don’t understand them because the rule is even if the QB is out of the pocket you cannot impede the receiver from getting to the ball while it is in the air. And that’s what happened, while the ball was in the air there were two Browns defenders that impeded the progress of both Calvin and Bryant Johnson without even turning to look at the ball. The defender and receiver have an equal right to the ball but neither defender was playing the ball. They played the receivers and as soon as they started moving towards the ball just tackled them. That’s pass interference every time whether it’s a hail mary or not. It’s pass interference and your opinion can be different but the NFL doesn’t base it’s calls off of your skewed opinion. They’re based on a set of rules they have established.
    I also watched that game and watched replays and both receivers were no more than 3-4 yards away from the ball. I don’t know where you see those magical extra 4 yards at. The endzone is only 10 yards deep and the ball was picked off right in the middle with Bryant Johnson being directly behind him in the back of the endzone and Calvin about 3 yards to the side. So either you think this is Canadian football with a 20 yard deep endzone, your judgment of distance is warped, or you really need glasses.

  64. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 8:13 PM

    Whoah that was a good one . Slow down.

  65. ajd78 says: Nov 24, 2009 9:55 PM

    Pool picked it off 4 yds deep. Not sure what your trying to talk yourself into but that leaves six yds between the ball and Bryant Johnson. I’m not sure why you keep bringing up Calvin Johnson because there was no flag thrown for the coverage of him. Just proves my point your trying to rationalize your OPINION by talking yourself into what YOU think happened. Arse. Just keep toting the company line. I’ll think for myself thank you very much. I’ll also call b/s when I see it. B/S.

  66. sagnam says: Nov 25, 2009 3:00 AM

    Why is it that there are 2 photos posted in this discussion that clearly show the ball being intercepted and the intercepting player’s position on the field yet ajd78 refuses to change his skewed opinion and accept what is clearly recorded fact?
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/definitely_not_catchable.png
    http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/bj_not_on_turf2.png
    It’s interesting that a person can look directly at indisputable evidence and somehow pretend it doesn’t exist.
    ajd78 is living, breathing example of the flaws of anecdotal evidence. Just because one thinks one remembers something happening a particular way does not mean that is how it actually happened. The human mind has a tendency to skew events to fit with a viewer’s preconceptions.

  67. ajd78 says: Nov 25, 2009 3:01 PM

    Just a little pschology for you, deep down, you know your wrong. But you don’t want to believe it because your a Lions fan and you only get 2 wins in 2 years so it’s your superbowl. I get it. But according to the rules, illegal contact. Not interference . Keep up the pipe dream though.

  68. ajd78 says: Nov 25, 2009 5:53 PM

    And if that is all the more that you understand about the game, then you deserved Matt Millen.

  69. sagnam says: Nov 28, 2009 3:51 AM

    ajd78, I’m convinced you truly are dense enough to not even realize you are wrong.
    http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/passinterference
    “Actions that constitute defensive pass interference include but are not limited to:
    (a) Contact by a defender who is not playing the ball and such contact restricts the receiver’s opportunity to make the catch.”
    http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h263/sagnam_14/?action=view&current=not_pass_interference.png
    This is a picture of a defensive player with his back turned to the pass making contact with a receiver while the ball is in the air. Said defender has no clue the ball in in the air and is in no way attempting to get into position to make a play on the ball. This violates the very first outlined and most basic rule of pass interference. This is a very simply concept to understand. What’s missing is any sort of counter argument that includes anything factual. You are the one giant fail.
    Nice use of Matt Millen. Excellent counter-argument.

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