Comments on: Roth's odyssey ends on the waiver wire

By: d-phinfan

d-phinfan — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:01:30 +0000

Obviously, there’s a lot more to this story. Drugs? Off field drama?? I think a player who uses ‘non-performance enhancing’ drugs and has a ‘problem’ does not have to be ‘outed’ – they can try to deal with it ‘in house’. You have to think that Parcells wouldn’t just cut a guy that has some value on the market??

By: Rasputin

Rasputin — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:01:12 +0000

Until Eric the Rat is hung from the yardarms, the Browns are not a sensible destination for football players.

By: ftomeo

ftomeo — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:07:40 +0000

Lost, I’m not sure what you are watching. Wake is playing situationally — around 15 snaps per game. He is mostly lining up in a 4-pt stance and is straight speed-rushing on obvious passing downs. Why? Because he never played standing up in Canada, because he isn’t good in coverage (yet). The Fins are very happy with him and are working him in more. They are even happier with Porter because they ask him to do much more (while Wake remains huge upside with freakish moments but way to many rough edges). Sparano, Jim Reid, and Pasqualoni know what they are doing and what they’ve got–I’m not sure you’ve watched the team at all. (What does Steve Spagnuolo have to do with this at all?) They had depth and even a glut at OLB and now they just have a core they are happy with to build a future and to add to.
Not sure how you can act as if Matt Roth who has had like 3 if-he-didn’t-make-em-he-sucks tackles and NOTHING else in 15+ plays in 3 games after sitting on the couch in a baseball cap for 8 months is some situation to deal with in last year’s draft because we had a glut at OLB. ‘Specially when they did bring in your boy Wake. Did you see this week’s game? They played 7 OLs and were down to none, one played 4 positions. The team has lost its starting QB, RB, utility RB, CB, NT and they’ve had the men to fill the holes.
But in your mind they should have drafted a Roth replacement in preparation for his being a pyschopathic, groin-pulling-on-his-free-time dumbass? Yeah, you’re smarter than Sparano and Parcells.

By: tatum32

tatum32 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:26:09 +0000

Roth NEVER established himself as a 3-4 end or rusher. He should be in a straight up 4-3

By: Lost

Lost — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:44:59 +0000

The move makes no sense and points to deeper issues with the Parcell/Spagnulo gang. The situation could have been resolved in last year’s draft. Again in training camp Roth and the LB surplus was confusing. Then no moves at the trade deadline.
Poor play of Joey Porter made no sense. They sit Cameron Wake and when he plays question if he’s one dimensional? Now they cut a solid contributor. Just crazy.
Dolphin = Dopes

By: FinFan

FinFan — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:37:38 +0000

He felt the ‘WAKE’
Cameron Wake!

By: Tailgun

Tailgun — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:06:30 +0000

He had a mean streak and a good motor, this whole thing has been a weird odyssey. They didn’t even try to trade him..?!
Honestly, I always thought at his measurables he might have been better at ILB, anyway. Guess they didn’t think so.

By: deacon

deacon — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:59:14 +0000

the guys been a headcase since his willowbrook days, so to me its not all that surprising.

By: ftomeo

ftomeo — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:43:38 +0000

bucc19, “Why would they cut him after Ferguson is out?”
He doesn’t play nose?
They picked up a D-linemen and have a roster spot for another. Roth has talent but the old guard has done admirably (despite what some Peezy-haters would say). Beyond JT and JP, the Fins are overflowing with pass rushers (or at least were): Wake, Anderson, Quentin Moses, Erick Walden (primarily used on STs but likely a very capable rusher if needed). All (mostly) younger, cheaper, and in the mold of a Sparano team — do their work, shut up, and show up. So, it’s a little surprising and maybe unfortunate but not that much.
I don’t think the Miami coaches and scouts have trouble finding good OLBs. (Inside LBs is another question.) Anderson is pretty unheralded and deserves a shot at a bigger load. Wake is slowly being groomed as a superstar (but hopefully isn’t just a one-dimensional pass rusher).
Really, probably could have used Roth in a couple of the games coming up — he has been great against the run, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he simply hasn’t gotten into game shape yet.

By: leatherneck

leatherneck — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:54:42 +0000

Don’t play dominoes. Don’t even order Domino’s Pizza.
Just sayin’.

By: Fart Face Killa

Fart Face Killa — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:49:58 +0000

He sucks!
I’m glad he’s gone!
Only question is…. what took so long?

By: bucc19

bucc19 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:40:56 +0000

Why would they cut him after Ferguson is out?

By: DABOYS

DABOYS — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:28:58 +0000

DA BOYS COULD USE HIM

By: Ralph Gre Nader

Ralph Gre Nader — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:23:51 +0000

Whats the point? You cannot honestly believe Mangini will continue to try to better this team, do you? He knows whats coming. He may be an idiot but I really don’t believe he’s naive(I think.) This is the last stop on his I-can’t-believe-it-lasted-this-long coaching journey. But, maybe not there’s always the Raiders. Wouldnt that be fun?

By: lskynard87

lskynard87 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:23:36 +0000

Weird… Has a very steady motor, so I don’t think it’s work ethic related…
Definitely an odd tale.

By: DABOYS

DABOYS — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:20:44 +0000

THE BROWNS? POOR BASTARD

By: PurpleIsForGays

PurpleIsForGays — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:15:30 +0000

Green Bay just lost Kampman, time to jump in.

By: Citizen Strange

Citizen Strange — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:10:58 +0000

Mysterious Injury = Dominoes Elbow