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NFL says ref didn't give Vince Young a high five

After the Tennessee Titans beat the Houston Texans on Monday night, Titans quarterback Vince Young appeared to exchange a high five with referee Jerome Boger.

The league says that’s not what happened.

After the apparent high five became a topic of conversation on sports talk radio and on ESPN, the Houston Chronicle called the league to ask about it. And the league said there was no high five.

It was not Jerome Boger’s intent to exchange a high-five with the player,” a league spokesman told the paper. “As Vince Young took a knee on the game’s final play, Jerome Boger jogged in with his right arm in the air to signify the play was over. That is the proper administrative signal for the referee.

“As Young turned around, he saw Boger approaching the line of scrimmage with his arm raised. As Boger moved toward the line of scrimmage, he started to bring his arm down. However, before he lowered his arm, Young, moving towards the referee, raised his own arm and the two exchanged what appeared to be a quick high-five.”

So just because their hands were raised and their palms made contact, that does not constitute, in the official opinion of the NFL, a high five.

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58 Responses to “NFL says ref didn't give Vince Young a high five”
  1. Beastie Bills says: Nov 25, 2009 10:26 AM

    Who the hell cares?
    I’m not a Vince Young fan, but when I watched the game, I thought it was cool as hell when he high fived the ref.

  2. Fike Mlorio says: Nov 25, 2009 10:32 AM

    refs only high five tom brady, everybody knows that

  3. Sportnman says: Nov 25, 2009 10:33 AM

    So what if he did. I have seen Refs shake a players hand DURING A GAME after an accomplishment. The refs are people and presumably HUGE football fans that can acknowledge a good or great perfomance. In this case, a kid who fought back from the brink of professional disaster, and had a good game in front of his home town. Sometimes, we need to let the human side of this game show more, instead of the “robotic” PC response.

  4. stiller43 says: Nov 25, 2009 10:33 AM

    Well, high-fiving the ref is still better than pointing at the ref and having him then nod and throw a flag for roughing the passer.

  5. Steel Wheels says: Nov 25, 2009 10:33 AM

    Even if he did give him a high-five, who cares. I have seen refs slap hands with Farve on numerous occasions.
    Move on.
    Nothing to see here.

  6. Bob Loblaw says: Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM

    What an awkward moment and a misinterpretation of body language. The ref signal “play over” and Vince Young thinking he wanted a high five.
    What is after calling a pass incomplete — and when the ref’s arms were the furthest out to the sides — a player came in and gave the ref a hug thinking that was the non-verbal signal for a man hug?
    That would also be emabrassing and require a statement from the NFL.

  7. damgenius says: Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM

    Will Young be fined for touching the ref?

  8. LeeofTex says: Nov 25, 2009 10:35 AM

    I saw it live on TV and that looked like a consensual high five to me. Who knows? I think Boger got caught up in the moment and “high-fived” Vince without realizing that he probably shouldn’t do that. No harm, no foul! This “new brand” of Roger Goodell NFL is getting a bit carried away! It seems like to me that everyone involved is constantly looking over their shoulder, afraid to do anything that may be perceived as inappropriate or wrong. Ease up Roger.

  9. wendellgee says: Nov 25, 2009 10:37 AM

    Really? Is this the NFL’s attempt to pull some kind of Jedi mind trick on people?
    “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”
    “He can go about his business.”
    “Jerome Boger did not high five Vince Young at the end of that game.
    Child, please.

  10. cbrianwatkins says: Nov 25, 2009 10:40 AM

    “After the apparent high five became a topic of conversation on sports talk radio and on ESPN, the Houston Chronicle called the league to ask about it. And the league said there was no high five.”
    a bunch of yenta’s at ESPN and the Houston Chronicle
    WHO CARES? people love stirring the pot

  11. mustbechris says: Nov 25, 2009 10:43 AM

    Yeah, NFL refs reserve high-fives for Brett Favre only. The Houston Chronicle should know this already. No wonder newspapers are dying.

  12. BradyGazelle says: Nov 25, 2009 10:46 AM

    That is total BS – it was definitely a high five. But who really cares? The players (especially the QBs) are always buddy buddy with the referees. No big deal, and if the Texans fans are whining about they really need to get a life.

  13. Jose Reyes says: Nov 25, 2009 10:47 AM

    So what if he did? Refs are fans of the game and the players, they are often caught on video talking to players saying things like “Man it’s a real pleasure to watch you play out there”, etc. It doesn’t mean they’re impartial.

  14. penguininbondage says: Nov 25, 2009 10:49 AM

    So at a minimum he engaged in forbidden contact with an official.

  15. Bob S. says: Nov 25, 2009 10:55 AM

    NFL is are so full of it!
    Same as Perreira’s BS explanations of contested refs decisions the previous week.

  16. Shinywalrus says: Nov 25, 2009 10:56 AM

    Your headline and your text don’t match up. The NFL isn’t saying “that does not constitute a high five” – they’re saying that the referee did not intend it. Your headline accurately portrays this view, but in typical snarky form, you twist the implication in the last sentence to make the NFL seem like it’s making a ridiculous claim.
    If you raise your hand to ask a question at school and someone slaps your hand, did YOU give HIM a high five? According to PFT’s constantly loaded langauge, you are being misleading if you say no.

  17. Vikes#28Owns says: Nov 25, 2009 10:58 AM

    Haha this is a pretty funny story. Do you think Vince saw him coming and thought “I can’t leave him hangin”
    Pretty obvious that he was just signaling the end of the play.

  18. qblax16 says: Nov 25, 2009 10:59 AM

    Who cares I used to high five officals all the time back in my day…

  19. Duan says: Nov 25, 2009 11:04 AM

    I am with Beastie Bills – however V.Y. is my boy!
    I thought it was kind of cool too. This is what the league lacks, character guys!
    It was almost as funny as the T.O. star incident in Dallas!

  20. birdmancometh says: Nov 25, 2009 11:07 AM

    “people love stirring the pot”
    No, people love smoking the pot. Especially in the NFL.

  21. Samuel L. Bronkowitz says: Nov 25, 2009 11:08 AM

    Much ado about nothing… isn’t a high-five just the 21st century equivalent of a gentleman’s handshake from days gone by?

  22. bobinpuertorico says: Nov 25, 2009 11:11 AM

    I am not a fan of either team, but it seems clear that Vince Young and the ref were celebrating their successful final drive that had put the Titans ahead. Young did his part by avoiding tackles and generally keeping the chains moving, but the officials also did their part by providing help to the Titans when needed. For example, giving the Titans an extra 15 yards for a horse collar tackle on Chris Johnson, when the replays clearly showed the tackle was clean. When Vince Young needed to avoid tacklers, the officials conveniently ignored repeated holding by the Titans. Overall, the officials had more to do with the Titans winning than the players did.

  23. Ridnaway says: Nov 25, 2009 11:13 AM

    This sounds like Obama telling us he’s not a socialist…

  24. Gary says: Nov 25, 2009 11:17 AM

    This is a newsworthy story? You have got to be kidding me? Some of the stuff you guys post here is so stupid, why do it?

  25. Tim says: Nov 25, 2009 11:21 AM

    Vince Young knew he was signaling end of the play but, in the happy mood Vince was in he thought it would be funny to give the ref a high five. And it was, we are talking about it arent we? No harm was done here just a player who has resurrected his career and is excited about it…

  26. JSpicoli says: Nov 25, 2009 11:46 AM

    Jedi mind-trick Pereira at work again.
    These are not the ‘droids you are looking for.
    Pereira is a tool.

  27. trickbunny says: Nov 25, 2009 11:48 AM

    The refs only high-five the Rooney family- and they’re smart enough to do that behind closed doors (as they simultaneously receive their “special envelopes”.) :)

  28. zygi milf says: Nov 25, 2009 12:25 PM

    Jose Reyes says:
    November 25, 2009 10:47 AM
    So what if he did? Refs are fans of the game and the players, they are often caught on video talking to players saying things like “Man it’s a real pleasure to watch you play out there”, etc. It doesn’t mean they’re impartial.
    *********
    Jose – I certainly hope the refs are impartial. Giving a certain player a high-five could mean that he is NOT impartial.
    Who knows? Maybe Young was on Boger’s fantasy team.

  29. J.Cannon says: Nov 25, 2009 12:27 PM

    That was a clear cut high five. All it was was a black QB showing love to a black ref and vise versa. It’s all good.

  30. Twiz says: Nov 25, 2009 12:29 PM

    Why would it matter if it was a real high five or not? As said earlier, Ref’s routinely congratulate players before, during and after the game.
    Now, if you want to take the NFL’s stance on the entire situation, people like Lord Florio should be going after the NFL regarding a fine for VY for intentionally putting his hand on a ref. (heavy sarcasm)
    This one of the stupider (is that a word) posts on this site. Typical for Lord Florio to attempt to start controversy where there is none!

  31. This is not news says: Nov 25, 2009 12:31 PM

    I demand a senate investigation on this matter.

  32. MooseDaddy says: Nov 25, 2009 12:31 PM

    If the refs ignored any fouls its because they were making up for that BS tripping non-call. Has he been fined for that yet?

  33. eeerockski says: Nov 25, 2009 12:32 PM

    Forget everything u think u know about high-fives. It aint a high-five ’til the NFL says it is! Dammit!!

  34. HughJassPhD says: Nov 25, 2009 12:33 PM

    Bill Clinton called to suggest that the Ref make the following statement to clear things up:
    I did not have “high 5″ with that QB. Mr. Young.

  35. Bubba Maximus says: Nov 25, 2009 12:35 PM

    So, that was not a high five?
    Right … and Obama didn’t bow to the Saudi king either, did he?
    A question for the people who say the ref’s rather obvious high five is no big deal: where do you draw the line?
    For example, is it OK for the refs to do that thing where guys jump up in the air and bounce their butts off of each other? (A move that was started by the Village People, from what I understand.)
    I realize that this is a concept beyond the understanding of you folks who were raised by Stuart Scott, but refs are not supposed to do anything that could call their objectivity into question. And there are few actions more questionable than giving ANY player a high five – before, during, or after a game.
    The fact that the ref in question missed at least one obvious roughing-the-QB call against Schaub makes his high five even more objectionable.

  36. madpunter88 says: Nov 25, 2009 12:37 PM

    Tiki Barber once did a similar thing in college when a referee raised his arms to signal a touchdown. Tiki quickly jumped up and high-fived the ref who had his arm up in the air with his palm out. It didn’t go over well. But it was clever.

  37. SureThing says: Nov 25, 2009 12:40 PM

    @ Gary- this is sports news. Sports are generally for entertainment (unless you’re on the field), and the news is sometimes entertaining.
    This story has generated at least 25 comments. I’d say he did his job.
    I was entertained.

  38. Lombardi 6 says: Nov 25, 2009 12:54 PM

    ..he then gave him a Rusty Trombone..

  39. Whiskeytangofoxtrot says: Nov 25, 2009 1:05 PM

    I don’t care about this alleged high-five.. what concerns me is the overall quality (or lack of same) of officiating in the NFL nowadays. Boger is arguably THE worst ref in the league, based on the games I’ve seen him call. And that’s really saying something, given how awful the officiating is overall.

  40. Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) says: Nov 25, 2009 1:07 PM

    George: Was it a scratch or a pick?
    Jerry: It was a pick!
    George: Hey, it’s me you’re talking to! Was there any nostril penetration?
    Jerry: (stutters) There may have been some accidental penetration!

  41. Mud Hens says: Nov 25, 2009 1:08 PM

    I can’t believe Vince Young actually thought the ref was giving him a high five. Oh, I forgot…6 on the Wonderlic…nevermind, I guess I can believe it.

  42. hotchick says: Nov 25, 2009 1:20 PM

    I think high fives from refs are a bad idea.
    I can see shaking a players hand when he breaks some long standing career record .
    I can see quitely saying something as they leave the field.
    But a high five at the moment of victory or during the game. No.
    Now the Ref may not have intended to high five, and it might be VY being full of himself to believe that was the refs intention. But really the situation should be the NFL player should not expect a high five from a ref.

  43. Tombradysbaby says: Nov 25, 2009 1:24 PM

    I did not have hand celebrations with that ref.
    I guess next time my hand is moving up at the same time a stripper is bending down and I make contact with her breasts, I can claim it does not constitute, in my opinion, intentional contact.
    Sure, the bouncer might agree with that…

  44. azwildcats96 says: Nov 25, 2009 1:55 PM

    If slapping a grown man on his ass while he’s wearing tights is not offensive why should this be?? The ref should have done the classic, “UP high, down low…..too slow” on him. That would have been nice.

  45. Stainless Steel says: Nov 25, 2009 1:58 PM

    C’mon guys. It’s not like anyone thinks the refs are biased ever, or that they sway the tide of the game with calls the subconsciously make in favour of one team or the other… right?

  46. LighTsouT says: Nov 25, 2009 2:24 PM

    It’s not a high-five.

  47. DocBG says: Nov 25, 2009 2:40 PM

    # bobinpuertorico says: November 25, 2009 11:11 AM
    I am not a fan of either team, but it seems clear that Vince Young and the ref were celebrating their successful final drive that had put the Titans ahead. Young did his part by avoiding tackles and generally keeping the chains moving, but the officials also did their part by providing help to the Titans when needed. For example, giving the Titans an extra 15 yards for a horse collar tackle on Chris Johnson, when the replays clearly showed the tackle was clean. When Vince Young needed to avoid tacklers, the officials conveniently ignored repeated holding by the Titans. Overall, the officials had more to do with the Titans winning than the players did.
    —————————————————-
    It’s not like the texans where winning for the other 59:45 of the game and just lost it on that one play.
    your team lost, yes it was a bullshit call, but to blame the lost on that one call is cowardly and lacking any character. you lost the other 60 minutes too, so get over it. (this from a viking fan that saw a complete bs tripping call against pittsburgh) a loss is a loss, good teams can over come bad calls.

  48. Christopher says: Nov 25, 2009 3:06 PM

    This is ridiculous. NFL films has released several tapes and dvds with footage of Brett Favre high-fiving and messing around with referees all the time. Does anyone remember in 2007 when he hit one with a snowball? PFT!!!! Bring this up to the NFL. You have the power, and you can do something about. Oh, and… possibly credit me ;) JK. But seriously, they’re denying that something happened AFTER the game as if it is a big deal, but don’t care if ol’ Brett does it during the middle of the third quarter?!

  49. Richm2256 says: Nov 25, 2009 3:16 PM

    stiller43 says:
    November 25, 2009 10:33 AM
    Well, high-fiving the ref is still better than pointing at the ref and having him then nod and throw a flag for roughing the passer.
    Right, because Suggs clearly wasn’t lilegally going after Brady’s just-repaired knee, right? The ref just threw the flag because Tom Brady told him to, right?

  50. belicheckyoself says: Nov 25, 2009 3:42 PM

    http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NFL/AFC/South/Titans.html
    Look at the Graph. It’s like some invisible hand is trying to spell something.

  51. greenngld says: Nov 25, 2009 3:48 PM

    What the hell do you think the NFL is going to say? “Ummmm, honestly, the ref had $20 on the Titans and he was happy.”
    Talk about asking a question you know the answer to.
    I haven’t seen the play…..but big deal, the ref is human. He know the trials Vince Young has gone through. He is a sports fan…reads the paper and internet just like us. Vince make a big play, everything is electric, and the ref responds instinctivly like an excited human being.
    Would you scoff at a NBA ref jumping in the air when Jordan hit a 3 pointer to win a game? Of course not, it is just raw emotion.

  52. greenngld says: Nov 25, 2009 3:51 PM

    If Florio raised his hand to get NBC’s permission to take a leak, and I ran by and slapped his hand, would that mean he gave me a high five?

  53. Tom Landry says: Nov 25, 2009 3:51 PM

    Michael David Smith, who, by the way, is not a substantial enough entity to refer to himself with all three names, appears to have high-five envy. That is all.

  54. delius1967 says: Nov 25, 2009 4:24 PM

    “refs only high five tom brady, everybody knows that”
    The refs don’t high-five Brady. They low-five him, IYKWIMAITYD.

  55. FED EX says: Nov 25, 2009 4:41 PM

    I SAW THE PLAY. NO HIGH FIVE. BIG TO-DO ABOUT NOTHING. SAME AS WHEN ‘THE SCRUB’ LANDED ON AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER AND ANNOUNCED: “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”. BIG-TO-DO ABOUT NOTHING.
    THIS IS A SPORTS STORY; YET SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THEY ARE ON MSNBC NEWSVINE AND HAVE TO GO ANTI-DEMS. GET REAL PEOPLE. FOOTBALL IN THE PROS IS AS HONEST AS PRO WRESTLING. THE REF HAD MONEY ON THE GAME. HE MISSED AT LEAST 6 HOLDING CALLS IN THE 1ST QUARTER ALONE.
    JUST A BIT OF SARCASM, FOLKS. HAVE A GOOD THANKSGIVING. THANKS FOR THE TURKEY, SARAH.

  56. hockref says: Nov 25, 2009 5:49 PM

    Anyone got a link to video of the alleged high five so I can at least make informed decision on which side to start blathering away on?

  57. SmackMyVickUp says: Nov 25, 2009 8:22 PM

    Would be a non-issue if ref calls were not so horrible this year.

  58. Bob S. says: Dec 4, 2009 3:31 PM

    Not only do they lie about how refs messed up on calls but now they say everyone’s eyes deceived them!
    Are the idiots for real?

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