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	<title>Comments on: Ochocinco wants a change of game plan</title>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368628</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@shaunypoo - Bill Gates lol  nothin like that son
CurseofBoJackson-  My steeler bud Deb tells me you cool,so I will believe her.Right,like we&#039;ll meet. Some Cincy fans stone idiots though,attack for shit that isn&#039;t real. We will see game day. Fronting? lol Don&#039;t know shit about that bro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@shaunypoo &#8211; Bill Gates lol  nothin like that son<br />
CurseofBoJackson-  My steeler bud Deb tells me you cool,so I will believe her.Right,like we&#8217;ll meet. Some Cincy fans stone idiots though,attack for shit that isn&#8217;t real. We will see game day. Fronting? lol Don&#8217;t know shit about that bro.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBengal13</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheBengal13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank Burns is an idiot who punches babies.]]></description>
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		<title>By: CurseofBoJackson</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CurseofBoJackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pervy, don&#039;t get all bent out of shape, I was just pointing out your hypocrisy about bringing &quot;drama.&quot;  No hard feelings, doesn&#039;t matter to me who you are, we&#039;ll never meet.  Benson is a diff back here with a better team and a better D and a better QB/O line, so that comparison is moot.
Keep telling yourself that you thought it was like preparing for DET before we started trading jabs (see how I did that?), this team has been good all year, as have the Vikings, so stop fronting, there&#039;s no future in it for you.  Ha ha, I love that song, MC Breed was the Sh*t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pervy, don&#8217;t get all bent out of shape, I was just pointing out your hypocrisy about bringing &#8220;drama.&#8221;  No hard feelings, doesn&#8217;t matter to me who you are, we&#8217;ll never meet.  Benson is a diff back here with a better team and a better D and a better QB/O line, so that comparison is moot.<br />
Keep telling yourself that you thought it was like preparing for DET before we started trading jabs (see how I did that?), this team has been good all year, as have the Vikings, so stop fronting, there&#8217;s no future in it for you.  Ha ha, I love that song, MC Breed was the Sh*t.</p>
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		<title>By: CincyAllDaWay</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CincyAllDaWay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PervertHarvin.........I see your still here trying to talk smack on your punk ass Vikes and still telling those bullshit lies about being a successfull boxer, LMFAO. Tell the truth loser. Your 36, live at home with your parents, no job or hopes of having one. The only thing you got is a bullshit team who&#039;s only played to creditable teams. Now I will eat crow over the Raiders game. That should never have happened thats for sure. But this is the NFL chump and teams do have an off game from time to time. I guess you could use your showing against the Steelers and Ravens. The difference is we lost and took it like men and moved on to the next one. You punks lost and have pissed, moaned, and cried and blamed everything on the refs. If that pussy QB of yours had made a tackle when he had the chance you guys might have been in that game. It looked like he was trying to jerk him off instead of trying to stop him. Typical purple punk losers. Now go on to bed like a good little boy before mommy wakes up and catches you on her computer again. Get a job loser and get out of the house!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PervertHarvin&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I see your still here trying to talk smack on your punk ass Vikes and still telling those bullshit lies about being a successfull boxer, LMFAO. Tell the truth loser. Your 36, live at home with your parents, no job or hopes of having one. The only thing you got is a bullshit team who&#8217;s only played to creditable teams. Now I will eat crow over the Raiders game. That should never have happened thats for sure. But this is the NFL chump and teams do have an off game from time to time. I guess you could use your showing against the Steelers and Ravens. The difference is we lost and took it like men and moved on to the next one. You punks lost and have pissed, moaned, and cried and blamed everything on the refs. If that pussy QB of yours had made a tackle when he had the chance you guys might have been in that game. It looked like he was trying to jerk him off instead of trying to stop him. Typical purple punk losers. Now go on to bed like a good little boy before mommy wakes up and catches you on her computer again. Get a job loser and get out of the house!</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368624</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol Love how real life sissies like you gayrero01 love to hide at home and ridicule real men. lol humors me really  ZING!(how damn gay dude,that tipped me off!LOL)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Love how real life sissies like you gayrero01 love to hide at home and ridicule real men. lol humors me really  ZING!(how damn gay dude,that tipped me off!LOL)</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368623</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ blestero zero -  We shall see punk. See you in the Viking threads game week? doubt it. Dude,feel free to live in my guesthouse. On Sylvia Lake. You couldn&#039;t afford the taxes chump!  Your team has ZERO chance. Raiders told me so!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ blestero zero &#8211;  We shall see punk. See you in the Viking threads game week? doubt it. Dude,feel free to live in my guesthouse. On Sylvia Lake. You couldn&#8217;t afford the taxes chump!  Your team has ZERO chance. Raiders told me so!</p>
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		<title>By: blester01</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blester01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Pervy: You are correct, the Bengals face a huge hill battle in beating the Vikings, and there is a good chance they will lose. The Bengals have never played well up in your dome, and I think the Vikings match up real well against the Bengals weaknesses. But it should be a tougher game than you are smacking- the Viking stats and scores almost mirror ours to comparable opponents.
I love the logic that since the Vikings stopped Benson when he was a Bear (murdered is how I think you put it), they will stop him as a Bengal. That is very deep deductive smack talk, but at a 4th grad level of reasoning. I would love to take your house from you next weekend, but judging from your posts it looks as if the Countrywide may have beat me to it. Zing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Pervy: You are correct, the Bengals face a huge hill battle in beating the Vikings, and there is a good chance they will lose. The Bengals have never played well up in your dome, and I think the Vikings match up real well against the Bengals weaknesses. But it should be a tougher game than you are smacking- the Viking stats and scores almost mirror ours to comparable opponents.<br />
I love the logic that since the Vikings stopped Benson when he was a Bear (murdered is how I think you put it), they will stop him as a Bengal. That is very deep deductive smack talk, but at a 4th grad level of reasoning. I would love to take your house from you next weekend, but judging from your posts it looks as if the Countrywide may have beat me to it. Zing!</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ BoJackson- Ex-con punching bag? You are as big a tool as the LMN thread fans! Great career,no police record. Am loved in MN by boxing fans. Want to come to Viking threads and call me out,many of my Viking brothers will show you the truth. Now,if you would like to talk smack like civil dudes,we can do that too.
I would put my house up on the Vikings beating Bengals. We get way better every week. That is something your team doesn&#039;t do. You know it too!  Like some fool saying AD can&#039;t carry Bensons jock!@ That is lame take and anyone knows it. When Benson was a Bear we murdered him.Like we do all rb&#039;s. You will see,thanks for making this game mean something now.Before it was like trying to get up for the Lions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ BoJackson- Ex-con punching bag? You are as big a tool as the LMN thread fans! Great career,no police record. Am loved in MN by boxing fans. Want to come to Viking threads and call me out,many of my Viking brothers will show you the truth. Now,if you would like to talk smack like civil dudes,we can do that too.<br />
I would put my house up on the Vikings beating Bengals. We get way better every week. That is something your team doesn&#8217;t do. You know it too!  Like some fool saying AD can&#8217;t carry Bensons jock!@ That is lame take and anyone knows it. When Benson was a Bear we murdered him.Like we do all rb&#8217;s. You will see,thanks for making this game mean something now.Before it was like trying to get up for the Lions.</p>
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		<title>By: goetta-head</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goetta-head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[5 of last 6 teams to sweep their division advance to the Super Bowl
Teams that swept their division since 1998
2009 Bengals AFC North 6-0/8-3
*2008 Cardinals NFC West 6-0/9-7
*2008 Steelers AFC North 6-0 12-4
*2007 Patriots AFC East 6-0/16-0
2005 Colts AFC South 6-0/14-2
*2005 Seahawks NFC West 6-0/13-3
*2004 Eagles NFC East 6-0/13-3
2002 Steelers AFC North 6-0/10-5
2002 Titans AFC South 6-0/11-5
*1999 Rams NFC West 8-0/13-3
*1998 Broncos AFC West 8-0/14-2
1998 Cowboys NFC East 8-0/10-6
*Reached Super Bowl]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5 of last 6 teams to sweep their division advance to the Super Bowl<br />
Teams that swept their division since 1998<br />
2009 Bengals AFC North 6-0/8-3<br />
*2008 Cardinals NFC West 6-0/9-7<br />
*2008 Steelers AFC North 6-0 12-4<br />
*2007 Patriots AFC East 6-0/16-0<br />
2005 Colts AFC South 6-0/14-2<br />
*2005 Seahawks NFC West 6-0/13-3<br />
*2004 Eagles NFC East 6-0/13-3<br />
2002 Steelers AFC North 6-0/10-5<br />
2002 Titans AFC South 6-0/11-5<br />
*1999 Rams NFC West 8-0/13-3<br />
*1998 Broncos AFC West 8-0/14-2<br />
1998 Cowboys NFC East 8-0/10-6<br />
*Reached Super Bowl</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ CurseofBoJackson - Lil tools that got picked on their whole life don&#039;t understand the concept of trash talking. They want everything civil and laid out like their socks and underwear in the morning.
blestero1- I spit fire and know Viking stats back to 65. don&#039;t knock what you can&#039;t do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ CurseofBoJackson &#8211; Lil tools that got picked on their whole life don&#8217;t understand the concept of trash talking. They want everything civil and laid out like their socks and underwear in the morning.<br />
blestero1- I spit fire and know Viking stats back to 65. don&#8217;t knock what you can&#8217;t do!</p>
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		<title>By: CurseofBoJackson</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CurseofBoJackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dude, this is a pro football comment site, don&#039;t get all high horse and say trash talking is for losers, that&#039;s what this forum is for dude!   Yes, it is for sharing thoughts and observations and opinions, but don&#039;t belittle other people&#039;s idea of fun..... Unless it&#039;s some douche rooting for an injury......
Frank, give it a rest, all the insults and claims of players not being clutch will not reverse the spin of the earth so you can go back and hope for different outcomes  on 9/27 and 11/15.  Palmer is a better QB than you&#039;re giving him credit for, he&#039;s been money when he&#039;s needed to be.
To whoever said we sucked last year because we didn&#039;t have CP, we sucked last year because we didn&#039;t have CP, we had NO O line, remember Giachuc (Sp?)?  I do, we had no running game either, remember Chris Perry and Kenny Watson?  We couldn&#039;t stay on the field on third down.  Your statement is missing a lot.
Pervy, dude, you get all over people who &quot;don&#039;t talk football,&quot; and bring &quot;drama&quot; but then you refer to folks as losers?  Well, let me tell you something my ex-con-punching bag friend, you were lucky to escape the Baltimore game, and the Bengals are significantly better than the Ravens, now repeat, and insert Steelers for Ravens.  All the weapons in the world don&#039;t make the Vikings as dangerous as NO when they get beat by Pitt and barely beat B-more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, this is a pro football comment site, don&#8217;t get all high horse and say trash talking is for losers, that&#8217;s what this forum is for dude!   Yes, it is for sharing thoughts and observations and opinions, but don&#8217;t belittle other people&#8217;s idea of fun&#8230;.. Unless it&#8217;s some douche rooting for an injury&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Frank, give it a rest, all the insults and claims of players not being clutch will not reverse the spin of the earth so you can go back and hope for different outcomes  on 9/27 and 11/15.  Palmer is a better QB than you&#8217;re giving him credit for, he&#8217;s been money when he&#8217;s needed to be.<br />
To whoever said we sucked last year because we didn&#8217;t have CP, we sucked last year because we didn&#8217;t have CP, we had NO O line, remember Giachuc (Sp?)?  I do, we had no running game either, remember Chris Perry and Kenny Watson?  We couldn&#8217;t stay on the field on third down.  Your statement is missing a lot.<br />
Pervy, dude, you get all over people who &#8220;don&#8217;t talk football,&#8221; and bring &#8220;drama&#8221; but then you refer to folks as losers?  Well, let me tell you something my ex-con-punching bag friend, you were lucky to escape the Baltimore game, and the Bengals are significantly better than the Ravens, now repeat, and insert Steelers for Ravens.  All the weapons in the world don&#8217;t make the Vikings as dangerous as NO when they get beat by Pitt and barely beat B-more.</p>
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		<title>By: blester01</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blester01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously, this thread has turned retarded. Talking trash is for morons; they dish that stuff up since they don&#039;t know facts or the real game. Just ignore it people.
Here are my two cents:
1. Palmer is not the same Carson from 2005. After his knee injury his OL went to hell the following seasons and the running game went with it. This caused him to start forcing his throws since he was getting pummeled and not comfortable in the pocket (ala Cutler). In addition he was not stepping into throws since he was protecting his knee- his throws would constantly sail. Pull out the stat books and fact check this: I bet in &#039;06 &amp; &#039;07 his completion percentage and QB rating dropped from &#039;05. In &#039;08, he burns out his elbow from throwing too much and the bad throwing technique which he acquired from his issues. This year is a rehab year for him to get his mojo back- like it or not. If he does not get his confidence/ technique back for next season, he will not be the star that once was.
2. Bratkowski does not have the mental ability to out-scheme any defensive coordinator in the league. Like Tressel playing the SEC, he will never outsmart the opponent nor can he dramatically adjust at halftime. He is good enough to get the wins, but I don&#039;t think he is good enough to win the ones that count. Whenever I read him talk about the cover 2, it is as if no one has ever successfully thrown deep on the coverage scheme. If I remember correctly the Lions scored on a 50 yard plus pass against the Browns- the next week Brat is to scared to even attempt one. I think they are going to throw on the Lions, at least they should, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if they don&#039;t.
3. Comparing Palmer to Ben is like apples and oranges the past couple of years. Ben should have the better stats since he has had the luxury of having a solid specialists around him, and a line that was able to dominate the line of scrimmage most of the time. Palmer has not had this support except for the 2005. If I had to choose between the two right now, I would take Ben b/c he can make things happen when the pocket collapses, but I would take the 2005 Palmer for pure passing ability. If Palmer can get himself back to his old self, then he will put up numbers again next year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, this thread has turned retarded. Talking trash is for morons; they dish that stuff up since they don&#8217;t know facts or the real game. Just ignore it people.<br />
Here are my two cents:<br />
1. Palmer is not the same Carson from 2005. After his knee injury his OL went to hell the following seasons and the running game went with it. This caused him to start forcing his throws since he was getting pummeled and not comfortable in the pocket (ala Cutler). In addition he was not stepping into throws since he was protecting his knee- his throws would constantly sail. Pull out the stat books and fact check this: I bet in &#8217;06 &#038; &#8217;07 his completion percentage and QB rating dropped from &#8217;05. In &#8217;08, he burns out his elbow from throwing too much and the bad throwing technique which he acquired from his issues. This year is a rehab year for him to get his mojo back- like it or not. If he does not get his confidence/ technique back for next season, he will not be the star that once was.<br />
2. Bratkowski does not have the mental ability to out-scheme any defensive coordinator in the league. Like Tressel playing the SEC, he will never outsmart the opponent nor can he dramatically adjust at halftime. He is good enough to get the wins, but I don&#8217;t think he is good enough to win the ones that count. Whenever I read him talk about the cover 2, it is as if no one has ever successfully thrown deep on the coverage scheme. If I remember correctly the Lions scored on a 50 yard plus pass against the Browns- the next week Brat is to scared to even attempt one. I think they are going to throw on the Lions, at least they should, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if they don&#8217;t.<br />
3. Comparing Palmer to Ben is like apples and oranges the past couple of years. Ben should have the better stats since he has had the luxury of having a solid specialists around him, and a line that was able to dominate the line of scrimmage most of the time. Palmer has not had this support except for the 2005. If I had to choose between the two right now, I would take Ben b/c he can make things happen when the pocket collapses, but I would take the 2005 Palmer for pure passing ability. If Palmer can get himself back to his old self, then he will put up numbers again next year.</p>
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		<title>By: tigeralum99</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigeralum99]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bengals beat the Vikes....
You heard it here first.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bengals beat the Vikes&#8230;.<br />
You heard it here first.</p>
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		<title>By: goetta-head</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goetta-head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Frank,
Did you ever stop to consider that we take what defenses give us?  And that is because everyone knows we can throw it over your head anytime given the chance.  Every team has two dropped safeties every game.  Because of that = we run.  Maybe your team should start doing that instead of relying on Big Ben to save the day.  As soon as they start playing the run more we will pass more.  bet on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Frank,<br />
Did you ever stop to consider that we take what defenses give us?  And that is because everyone knows we can throw it over your head anytime given the chance.  Every team has two dropped safeties every game.  Because of that = we run.  Maybe your team should start doing that instead of relying on Big Ben to save the day.  As soon as they start playing the run more we will pass more.  bet on it.</p>
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		<title>By: goetta-head</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goetta-head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously Frank,
His first few seasons...like 05?  You are blind.  So is your team...which is why they lost...twice]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously Frank,<br />
His first few seasons&#8230;like 05?  You are blind.  So is your team&#8230;which is why they lost&#8230;twice</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Burns</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Burns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And while we&#039;re at it -- how many big games has the player formerly known as Chad Johnson stepped up in? I know for a fact against the Steelers he never has. TJ Housh and Chris Henry have made big plays while #85 gets shut down like a scared puppy by Ike Taylor. Game after game after game.
Maybe Chad should look at his and his QB&#039;s play as the reasons the guy in charge is calling the plays the way he has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while we&#8217;re at it &#8212; how many big games has the player formerly known as Chad Johnson stepped up in? I know for a fact against the Steelers he never has. TJ Housh and Chris Henry have made big plays while #85 gets shut down like a scared puppy by Ike Taylor. Game after game after game.<br />
Maybe Chad should look at his and his QB&#8217;s play as the reasons the guy in charge is calling the plays the way he has.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Burns</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Burns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Legend of Josh says:
December 1, 2009 1:07 PM
This Frank Burns guy is talking about passer ratings of opposing team&#039;s QBs while we&#039;re sitting comfortably atop the AFC North at 8-3 while his lackluster Steelers have lost 3 straight couldn&#039;t-be-more-important games. Even if you run the table and finish 11-5 (which isn&#039;t happening) you&#039;ll still be behind Carson Palmer&#039;s Bengals at 12-4.
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We&#039;re not talking about the Steelers here, but nice try. You want to do that, plenty of other threads.
It&#039;s not even about numbers -- it&#039;s about philosophy. You don&#039;t run what the Bengals are running when you have a true franchise QB. You run things around the QB. The Bengals tried doing that Palmer&#039;s first few seasons, and it failed. Now they&#039;ve de-emphaszied the QB and guess what -- having their best season since Boomer and Icky. (I&#039;ll be glad to explain who those guys were to you younger fans.) That&#039;s why I have to laugh at all the emotional responses -- it&#039;s your own team who&#039;s telling you what they think of Palmer as a QB. Like I said, you got a prob with that, take it up with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legend of Josh says:<br />
December 1, 2009 1:07 PM<br />
This Frank Burns guy is talking about passer ratings of opposing team&#8217;s QBs while we&#8217;re sitting comfortably atop the AFC North at 8-3 while his lackluster Steelers have lost 3 straight couldn&#8217;t-be-more-important games. Even if you run the table and finish 11-5 (which isn&#8217;t happening) you&#8217;ll still be behind Carson Palmer&#8217;s Bengals at 12-4.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
We&#8217;re not talking about the Steelers here, but nice try. You want to do that, plenty of other threads.<br />
It&#8217;s not even about numbers &#8212; it&#8217;s about philosophy. You don&#8217;t run what the Bengals are running when you have a true franchise QB. You run things around the QB. The Bengals tried doing that Palmer&#8217;s first few seasons, and it failed. Now they&#8217;ve de-emphaszied the QB and guess what &#8212; having their best season since Boomer and Icky. (I&#8217;ll be glad to explain who those guys were to you younger fans.) That&#8217;s why I have to laugh at all the emotional responses &#8212; it&#8217;s your own team who&#8217;s telling you what they think of Palmer as a QB. Like I said, you got a prob with that, take it up with them.</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 WORDS     OAKLAND RAIDERS
VIKINGS BLOW OUT TEAMS LIKE THAT]]></description>
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VIKINGS BLOW OUT TEAMS LIKE THAT</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CincyAllDaWay says:
December 1, 2009 1:57 PM
Percy.....You guys couldn&#039;t beat Cincy on your best day, as evidenced in your games against the other AFC North champs. AP couldn&#039;t carry Bensons jock. He&#039;ll be luck to get 30 yards againt our defense. And that Geratol eating Farve will cough up at least 3 to 4 picks after he picks his own ass up off the ground a few times! You guys are by far the MOST over rated team in the NFL right now.
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Dude,I got to thank. I&#039;m still choking on my lunch!! Thats the funniest shit on PFT ever!! Do you write for Happy Madison Productions?You should!  AD cant carry Bensons jock ?LMAO 3 to 4 picks with 3 ALL SEASON LMAO   In our house??  Thanks man,I wasn&#039;t too excited about playing losers like you but now I am. I want to kick the shit out of you now,has meaning now! THANKYOU!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CincyAllDaWay says:<br />
December 1, 2009 1:57 PM<br />
Percy&#8230;..You guys couldn&#8217;t beat Cincy on your best day, as evidenced in your games against the other AFC North champs. AP couldn&#8217;t carry Bensons jock. He&#8217;ll be luck to get 30 yards againt our defense. And that Geratol eating Farve will cough up at least 3 to 4 picks after he picks his own ass up off the ground a few times! You guys are by far the MOST over rated team in the NFL right now.<br />
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Dude,I got to thank. I&#8217;m still choking on my lunch!! Thats the funniest shit on PFT ever!! Do you write for Happy Madison Productions?You should!  AD cant carry Bensons jock ?LMAO 3 to 4 picks with 3 ALL SEASON LMAO   In our house??  Thanks man,I wasn&#8217;t too excited about playing losers like you but now I am. I want to kick the shit out of you now,has meaning now! THANKYOU!!!</p>
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		<title>By: goetta-head</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goetta-head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea thats IF Favre makes it to the game without getting hurt.  remember that dude is old and the season is looooong.  And no he wasnt on the Vikings when he played us last... he was on the Packers the year they went to the AFC championship game. Pride cometh before the fall my friend.  If you had trouble with the Steelers and Ravens why dont you think you will have trouble with the Bengals?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea thats IF Favre makes it to the game without getting hurt.  remember that dude is old and the season is looooong.  And no he wasnt on the Vikings when he played us last&#8230; he was on the Packers the year they went to the AFC championship game. Pride cometh before the fall my friend.  If you had trouble with the Steelers and Ravens why dont you think you will have trouble with the Bengals?</p>
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		<title>By: BigBlackBoot</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigBlackBoot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Shinsnake, maybe you need to get a freaking clue so you would know what the hell you are talking about. First, the reason the Bengals werent any good last year is because they lost their Pro Bowl Qb Carson palmer. Two, i dont know if you know it or not but the white man other than the media were they dont play sports doesnt have a damn thing to do with the actual play on the feild. So there goes your theory about the &quot;white man running things&quot;. This is the reality of the sports world so take your little whitea$$ to the bench. Three, the only reason the media jumped Chad crap was because the Cincinnati media (especially sports talk radio ) in racist as hell in Cincinnati and everybody knows it but you apparently. The sports talk radio host work for the same station that host the biggest racist in Cincinnati W. Cunningham.  Forth, Geoff Hobson was never mentioned bcause the players and the communty knows that Geoff Hobson doesnt play the &quot;white man resentment of rich black athletes card&quot; that play so well in Ultra-Conservative, backwater, my three sons Cincinnati. maybe you arent from Cincinati but it obvious you dont know what the hell you are talking about. Kinda like your &quot;white man made Chad do it comment&quot;.. I didnt know the white man was dominate in pro sports other than talking about what real athletes do on the pro sports feild. I&#039;ll give you that, white guys rule the pro sports media world. WOO Hoo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shinsnake, maybe you need to get a freaking clue so you would know what the hell you are talking about. First, the reason the Bengals werent any good last year is because they lost their Pro Bowl Qb Carson palmer. Two, i dont know if you know it or not but the white man other than the media were they dont play sports doesnt have a damn thing to do with the actual play on the feild. So there goes your theory about the &#8220;white man running things&#8221;. This is the reality of the sports world so take your little whitea$$ to the bench. Three, the only reason the media jumped Chad crap was because the Cincinnati media (especially sports talk radio ) in racist as hell in Cincinnati and everybody knows it but you apparently. The sports talk radio host work for the same station that host the biggest racist in Cincinnati W. Cunningham.  Forth, Geoff Hobson was never mentioned bcause the players and the communty knows that Geoff Hobson doesnt play the &#8220;white man resentment of rich black athletes card&#8221; that play so well in Ultra-Conservative, backwater, my three sons Cincinnati. maybe you arent from Cincinati but it obvious you dont know what the hell you are talking about. Kinda like your &#8220;white man made Chad do it comment&#8221;.. I didnt know the white man was dominate in pro sports other than talking about what real athletes do on the pro sports feild. I&#8217;ll give you that, white guys rule the pro sports media world. WOO Hoo</p>
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		<title>By: CincyAllDaWay</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CincyAllDaWay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First things first...
Franks Burns.....you can suck it...the same one that that pussy QB of yours is sucking and you both can clean up with your pathetic (formerly known as terrible) towels. I know that ass is still stinging from getting spanked X2 but that&#039;s no excuse for being a Shitzburg Punk! Take it like a man and move on. You ain&#039;t going to the playoffs anyway!
Percy.....You guys couldn&#039;t beat Cincy on your best day, as evidenced in your games against the other AFC North champs. AP couldn&#039;t carry Bensons jock. He&#039;ll be luck to get 30 yards againt our defense. And that Geratol eating Farve will cough up at least 3 to 4 picks after he picks his own ass up off the ground a few times! You guys are by far the MOST over rated team in the NFL right now. You&#039;ve only played 2 decent teams in PITT and BALT. You lost 1 and had the other handed to you. Farve was on the sideline getting ready to write his next retirement speak just before BALT shanked that field goal. You guys are going down Dude!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First things first&#8230;<br />
Franks Burns&#8230;..you can suck it&#8230;the same one that that pussy QB of yours is sucking and you both can clean up with your pathetic (formerly known as terrible) towels. I know that ass is still stinging from getting spanked X2 but that&#8217;s no excuse for being a Shitzburg Punk! Take it like a man and move on. You ain&#8217;t going to the playoffs anyway!<br />
Percy&#8230;..You guys couldn&#8217;t beat Cincy on your best day, as evidenced in your games against the other AFC North champs. AP couldn&#8217;t carry Bensons jock. He&#8217;ll be luck to get 30 yards againt our defense. And that Geratol eating Farve will cough up at least 3 to 4 picks after he picks his own ass up off the ground a few times! You guys are by far the MOST over rated team in the NFL right now. You&#8217;ve only played 2 decent teams in PITT and BALT. You lost 1 and had the other handed to you. Farve was on the sideline getting ready to write his next retirement speak just before BALT shanked that field goal. You guys are going down Dude!!</p>
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		<title>By: CurseofBoJackson</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CurseofBoJackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yea yea, I can name threats too, Chad, a wicked three headed monster on the ground and really, Leonard is a third down to first down machine, so for the sake of argument I&#039;ll call it the four headed monster.  Caldwell is money over the middle and in the clutch, and you know who else is pretty good in the clutch (although you&#039;d think people have pretty short memories around here)? CP.
Steelers and Ravens thought they&#039;d bury Ced too (twice), how&#039;d that work out for &#039;em?
Bengals D has shut down some pretty tough Wr&#039;s too man, Driver, Jennings, Ward, Holmes, Mason, Clayton, Marshall.
And, no, Farve didn&#039;t play for the Vikings, but he played for some pretty damn good teams in GB, you need to hope he doesn&#039;t get pressured, otherwise you&#039;re staring at a three plus pick game, Hall and Joseph are ridiculous, and that sixth rounder from Michigan?  He&#039;s pretty good too.  Knife to a gunfight, right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea yea, I can name threats too, Chad, a wicked three headed monster on the ground and really, Leonard is a third down to first down machine, so for the sake of argument I&#8217;ll call it the four headed monster.  Caldwell is money over the middle and in the clutch, and you know who else is pretty good in the clutch (although you&#8217;d think people have pretty short memories around here)? CP.<br />
Steelers and Ravens thought they&#8217;d bury Ced too (twice), how&#8217;d that work out for &#8216;em?<br />
Bengals D has shut down some pretty tough Wr&#8217;s too man, Driver, Jennings, Ward, Holmes, Mason, Clayton, Marshall.<br />
And, no, Farve didn&#8217;t play for the Vikings, but he played for some pretty damn good teams in GB, you need to hope he doesn&#8217;t get pressured, otherwise you&#8217;re staring at a three plus pick game, Hall and Joseph are ridiculous, and that sixth rounder from Michigan?  He&#8217;s pretty good too.  Knife to a gunfight, right.</p>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry CurseofBo- LOL these bleeding hearts put me off focus for a center. Be glad to duke it out with you!!
As far as making Favre look bad,simple answer. Was he playing on the Vikings? No. Irrelevant. Our line moves housee,will protect him. You do know he has thrown his ass off with 3 picks don&#039;t you?? Did you watch the Saints? We are every bit that lethal on offense.  You bet AD will be lathered up. He is due for a huge game. CED??LOL  Our d line will bury that lil fool. Wasn&#039;t he a Bear??  lol We killed him.
Go ahead,double Allen.Everyone does.Then the Williams boys will get you. Pick yo poison Bo? Stop AD or let Favre carve you up with Rice,Harvin,Shiancoe and Berrian.Oh,and Taylor.  Hope you have a dback that can jump 50 ft up. Rice is a tall kangaroo in a mans body.CANT BE BEAT ONE ON ONE.
Dude,respectyour homer view,but you bringing a knife to a gunfight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry CurseofBo- LOL these bleeding hearts put me off focus for a center. Be glad to duke it out with you!!<br />
As far as making Favre look bad,simple answer. Was he playing on the Vikings? No. Irrelevant. Our line moves housee,will protect him. You do know he has thrown his ass off with 3 picks don&#8217;t you?? Did you watch the Saints? We are every bit that lethal on offense.  You bet AD will be lathered up. He is due for a huge game. CED??LOL  Our d line will bury that lil fool. Wasn&#8217;t he a Bear??  lol We killed him.<br />
Go ahead,double Allen.Everyone does.Then the Williams boys will get you. Pick yo poison Bo? Stop AD or let Favre carve you up with Rice,Harvin,Shiancoe and Berrian.Oh,and Taylor.  Hope you have a dback that can jump 50 ft up. Rice is a tall kangaroo in a mans body.CANT BE BEAT ONE ON ONE.<br />
Dude,respectyour homer view,but you bringing a knife to a gunfight.</p>
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		<title>By: Legend of Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legend of Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Frank Burns guy is talking about passer ratings of opposing team&#039;s QBs while we&#039;re sitting comfortably atop the AFC North at 8-3 while his lackluster Steelers have lost 3 straight couldn&#039;t-be-more-important games.  Even if you run the table and finish 11-5 (which isn&#039;t happening) you&#039;ll still be behind Carson Palmer&#039;s Bengals at 12-4.
Honestly, I wouldn&#039;t be shocked if your team finishes 8-8 on the season, winning their next two (Raiders/Browns) before falling 3 straight yet again to the likes of Packers/Ravens/Dolphins.
I&#039;m still trying to figure out this guy&#039;s vendetta against CP.  It&#039;s rather pathetic, an obsession maybe?  [thinks of Mariah Carey&#039;s &#039;boy, why you so obsessed wtih me!&#039;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Frank Burns guy is talking about passer ratings of opposing team&#8217;s QBs while we&#8217;re sitting comfortably atop the AFC North at 8-3 while his lackluster Steelers have lost 3 straight couldn&#8217;t-be-more-important games.  Even if you run the table and finish 11-5 (which isn&#8217;t happening) you&#8217;ll still be behind Carson Palmer&#8217;s Bengals at 12-4.<br />
Honestly, I wouldn&#8217;t be shocked if your team finishes 8-8 on the season, winning their next two (Raiders/Browns) before falling 3 straight yet again to the likes of Packers/Ravens/Dolphins.<br />
I&#8217;m still trying to figure out this guy&#8217;s vendetta against CP.  It&#8217;s rather pathetic, an obsession maybe?  [thinks of Mariah Carey&#8217;s &#8216;boy, why you so obsessed wtih me!&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: CurseofBoJackson</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CurseofBoJackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon Pervy, I gave you something to respond to about football, but instead you chose to be a hypocrite and respond to Shinsnake&#039;s personal comments, which you referred to as what?  Dawson&#039;s Creek drama?  Something like that?  right?  Like I said, AP better be TOP notch, and Vikes STILL might get beat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Pervy, I gave you something to respond to about football, but instead you chose to be a hypocrite and respond to Shinsnake&#8217;s personal comments, which you referred to as what?  Dawson&#8217;s Creek drama?  Something like that?  right?  Like I said, AP better be TOP notch, and Vikes STILL might get beat.</p>
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		<title>By: goetta-head</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368602</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goetta-head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Safe to say that the Bengals Vikings game is going to be a great one.]]></description>
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		<title>By: PervyHarvin</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PervyHarvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ shinsnake - You should be a comedian.This site is full of trash talk,maybe not in the Kittys threads. Visit the NFC North once. Guys like you couldn&#039;t hang. Don&#039;t worry about my mental health son, I&#039;m a Mensa guy . Not mad like Poe either. Football is the only sport I like besides boxing and MMA. Baseball,bb,and such bore me. That&#039;s why I&#039;m a passionate fan.
Don&#039;t worry about me getting tucked in mate,always a pretty girl willing to do that. That you can bet on!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ shinsnake &#8211; You should be a comedian.This site is full of trash talk,maybe not in the Kittys threads. Visit the NFC North once. Guys like you couldn&#8217;t hang. Don&#8217;t worry about my mental health son, I&#8217;m a Mensa guy . Not mad like Poe either. Football is the only sport I like besides boxing and MMA. Baseball,bb,and such bore me. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a passionate fan.<br />
Don&#8217;t worry about me getting tucked in mate,always a pretty girl willing to do that. That you can bet on!</p>
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		<title>By: hineswardcriesafterfumbling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hineswardcriesafterfumbling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roethlisberger&#039;s best season looks like this:
264/404 = 65.3% for 3,154yrds 32 td&#039;s 11 ints
the next year he threw 17tds 15ints for 3,301yds
Palmer&#039;s best season looks like this:
345/509=67.8% for 3,836yrds 32 td&#039;s 12ints
the next year he threw 28tds 13ints for 4,035yds
in fewer games, palmer has the same completion percentage as ben, more yards, more tds and fewer picks.
cue the argument about championship rings.
is trent dilfer better than dan marino?
is brad johnson equal to peyton manning?
ben has the second lowest qb rating among superbowl qbs and the lowest rating for winning superbowl qbs. he, dilfer, and johnson show that &quot;game managing&quot; wins lombardi&#039;s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roethlisberger&#8217;s best season looks like this:<br />
264/404 = 65.3% for 3,154yrds 32 td&#8217;s 11 ints<br />
the next year he threw 17tds 15ints for 3,301yds<br />
Palmer&#8217;s best season looks like this:<br />
345/509=67.8% for 3,836yrds 32 td&#8217;s 12ints<br />
the next year he threw 28tds 13ints for 4,035yds<br />
in fewer games, palmer has the same completion percentage as ben, more yards, more tds and fewer picks.<br />
cue the argument about championship rings.<br />
is trent dilfer better than dan marino?<br />
is brad johnson equal to peyton manning?<br />
ben has the second lowest qb rating among superbowl qbs and the lowest rating for winning superbowl qbs. he, dilfer, and johnson show that &#8220;game managing&#8221; wins lombardi&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: goetta-head</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/01/ochocinco-wants-a-change-of-game-plan/#comment-368599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goetta-head]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank,
Hold on to your passer ratings lol.
Just check the W column.  You are a sad little man.  Palmer is one of the best at reading coverages and defenses.  You think he is overrated? That is your prerogative.  Truth of the matter is that he wins games.  How can you say that running and D doesnt matter in the playoffs...that is exactly when it does!  You should know being a steeler fan!  Palmer is accurate and has a cannon for an arm.  If Palmer was to leave I think almost every HC/GM/Owner in the NFL would take him, for as much as we paid for him.  You are just mad bc your QB is the one that is overrated.  We showed that just a few weeks ago, or wait...he didnt &#039;feel&#039; right that game...thats right.  at least Carson owns it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,<br />
Hold on to your passer ratings lol.<br />
Just check the W column.  You are a sad little man.  Palmer is one of the best at reading coverages and defenses.  You think he is overrated? That is your prerogative.  Truth of the matter is that he wins games.  How can you say that running and D doesnt matter in the playoffs&#8230;that is exactly when it does!  You should know being a steeler fan!  Palmer is accurate and has a cannon for an arm.  If Palmer was to leave I think almost every HC/GM/Owner in the NFL would take him, for as much as we paid for him.  You are just mad bc your QB is the one that is overrated.  We showed that just a few weeks ago, or wait&#8230;he didnt &#8216;feel&#8217; right that game&#8230;thats right.  at least Carson owns it</p>
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