Nearly two full days after the fact, we’re still fuming about the decision of Pats coach Bill Belichick to throw in the towel at a time when his team — led by supposedly the greatest quarterback of all time (just ask any Patriots fan) – trailed the Saints by 21 points with 5:22 to play.
Not only did Belichick rob his team of a chance at a win, but he also robbed the rest of us of a chance to witness something truly historic.
So allow us to bitch about it some more, PFTV style. (And, yeah, we thought about making a smart ass remark regarding the still image in the video player, but we’ll defer to PFT Planet on this one. Best proposed caption gets a free one-year subscription.)
You need to fix the video player. It only works if I keep my mouse over it
Turning away from an armorous Drew Brees, Bill Belichick follows the whore’s code of no mouth kissing even though you just got effed.
and if he’d left him in down 3 scores and he would have gotten hurt, you’d have had a field day..
another pointless second guess, move along, nothing to see here
Make up your mind. You are so damn contradictory. If Brady, Welker or Moss had been injured you’d have been the first to call Belichick arrogant for leaving them in the game.
“Amazing! After kicking our ass you still smell like lavender. “
Drew if I had you I wouldn’t even need those damn cameras.
Belichick- Hey Drew, spit on it first next time. That really hurt.
or
Belichick- Hey Drew after I get pounded like that I prefer a smoke, not a kiss
Bill B is crying on Drew Brees shoulder…complaining how Tom Brady left him for Gisele….he can’t figure what she has that he doesn’t. He needs a cuddle.
WOW. Brocato, you need to do something about your lid. “Big Ern” McCracken thinks you look ridiculous.
PFTV Daily Extra!
To add on to Florio’s take, here’s my take.
BB was afraid of the Saints running up the score on the Patriots like the Patriots did to the Titans. He can dish it out, but can’t take it. He sent out the backups and ran up the white flag. Cowardly.
This game had already been over. I had no problem with Brian Hoyer in the game. Belichick did not rob them of a chance to win.
“Psst…
I own you! ”
“I love your mike rufio musk.”
“Hey Drew, Is Tom watching me?
Good! screw him.”
Florio he is supposedly one of the greatest?He had 3 rings by the time he was 30 you dingleberry..
@ Florio,
Clearly, you didn’t pay attention to the game. They were being destroyed on O and D and there was no need to risk injury. He needed to get Hoyer and some others some game action, so that’s what he did. This should be obvious to anyone, so naturally you’re confused.
Bill: “Hey Drew, do you think you could text me a few ideas for 4th down plays? Charlie Weis hasn’t responded yet.”
Belichick “I regret those transgressions”
Drew Brees’ community mindedness knows no bounds as he consoles a homeless Katrina victim in New Orlea…wait, you mean that’s the head coach of the team we just made our prison b(*ches? Huh, whaddya know about that?
Why the hell is Wayne Brady on tv in the background? He makes Brian Gumble look like Malcom X.
Officially done with this site. I just deleted the bookmark. Since you moved to NBC you have gone down hill faster than Entourage. Will you even pretend at some point not to have a complete hatred for the Patriots? Some of us are just so bored with it.
Nice to see Joe back in the saddle with you Mike.
Belichick does have a lot of explaining to do.
I don’t play fantasy football, but I can imagine that quite a few of those fantasy owners are a bit miffed.
These PFTV segments have been good lately. Different stuff!
Lets also remember that the Saints took their foot off the pedal when Brady didn’t come back. In that game, that night, they could have hung another 21 on the Pats D in 5 minutes, if they really tried.
In Bill we trust! I believe it was a tactical decision in an attempt to win the war. The Patriots obviously had a crappy game plan and the Defense was still out on Bourbon Street. The Pats just need to win the AFC East to make the playoffs so why shoot all of your bullets on the chance you can win a non division game especially when you have a division game this weekend.
Of course, the Pats will need to have better game plans and preparation for the playoffs but there will be 4 or 5 weeks more game film of the better teams by then. (4 weeks for teams that rest their starters on the last weekend)
Meet me at the bus Drew, I brought the torch for the gold standard with us.
DB: Is that Old Spice I smell?…oh and thanks for having Tom throw that interception and sit the bench, it made the bet go much easier
BB: So you made that bet for me right? We won by 21 points exactly, so my take is 70 to your 30?
DB: Let’s double the bet in the SuperBowl….
BB: See ya after the game in Miami!
He put it in the bag because everyone and their mother was on the over in the game and that kept it under the total. Its all fixed.
And for the caption:
Did Belichick just try to “Snowball” Drew Brees?
Brees: Who’s your Daddy?
Belichick: …You are.
“Hey, Coach, I hear there’s a job opening up at Notre Dame, if you’re interested.”
pats* fans are hilarious, they keep Brady Moss and Welker in when they are up 59-0. I guess if they got injured then it would be ok.
“In Bill’s cameras we trust”
Sincerely,
The New England Sheeple.
Drew, I am your father. Come to the dark side.
or
Drew, you may have beat me on the field, but come to my place I have a few video cameras the league banned me from using on field, I will show you the true meaning of winning.
“Do you smell bacon?” “Yes, I definitely smell a pork product of some kind.”
Here’s my feelings on this topic:
When what you’re doing is working, you leave the starters in, and keep doing it. Whether its 10-0 or 59-0, whether it’s the 2nd quarter or the 4th quarter.
When what you’re doing isn’t working, you yank whoever is not getting the job done, and give someone else a shot.
That these simple concepts are so difficult to comprehend is simply mind boggling.
I have to admit I liked the fact that the Saint’s ran over the Pat’s. It serves them (Pat’s) right. Karma is a BITCH! Cheater Cheater! it serves the Pat’s and Brady and Bill right. It seems they can dish it out but CAN NOT take it. And to think the only thing sweeter would have been had the butt whipping came to them in Foxboro!..HaHaHaHa
# James says: December 2, 2009 4:06 PM
“Amazing! After kicking our ass you still smell like lavender. ”
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LMAO……we have a winner
Remember where read this first because win or lose Bill Belichick is retiring from coaching at the end of this season.
Belichick will officialy be the GM and he has his replacement already picked out.
Can you guess who that is?
Let’s just the say that Robert Kraft is going to have to increase the food budget in the bowels of Gillette Stadium.:)
BrokeBill Mounting…starring Drew Brees.
pfitz says:
December 2, 2009 4:14 PM
Florio he is supposedly one of the greatest?He had 3 rings by the time he was 30 you dingleberry..
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Courtesy of the Pats’ DEFENSE, moron. Too bad you Pats fan idiots never give the TRUE CREDIT where it belongs. Brady was just along for the ride…Trent Dilfer, just three times instead of one. Notice that now that the focus in New England in on the OFFENSE, the Pats can’t win shit when it matters most. LMFAO!!!!
@pfitz: he said, “supposedly the greatest” not “one of”.
Hey, Bradshaw had four rings by the time he was 31. He’s not considered one of the greats. So get over the theory that SB rings = great QB.
Matt Walsh, your posts are as dumb as your name.
Brady et all came out after the 1st series in the 3rd quarter.
Only a loser would use a screen name of one of the most exposed losers in recent history.
You probably have the same paraphanalia in your bedroom in mommy’s house like Matt Walsh did with all the stuff he stole while working in Foxboro.
You are a LOSER
The seeds of Monday’s historic defensive downfall have been planted in a series of bad drafts, in a series of bad personnel decisions (including players signed and players sent packing) and in the assistant coaching exodus that has taken place every year since the last Super Bowl.
The Patriots have not made an impact free agent signing on defense since Rodney Harrison in 2003. They haven’t made an impact draft pick in the secondary since Asante Samuel in 2003. They haven’t made an impact draft pick on defense, period, since Vince Wilfork in 2004 (though 2008 Defensive Rookie of the Year Jerod Mayo could prove to be that next great stalwart).
You can even pinpoint the moment at which it all began to fall apart — in the wake of Super Bowl XXXIX in February 2005, New England’s last championship. Offensive coordinator Charlie Weis left for Notre Dame. Defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel left for the Cleveland Browns. (Both, of course, are out of work today.)
But it was in the personnel department that offseason when things begin to unravel.
The Patriots whiffed badly everywhere. In the free agent market, they signed the likes of career backup Monte Beisel and 35-year-old Chad Brown to play linebacker. The draft was no better: The Patriots selected corner Ellis Hobbs, safety James Sanders and linebacker Ryan Claridge. Hobbs today is a kick-return specialist in Philly, Sanders is a special teamer for New England, and Claridge never played a down in the NFL.
That’s a bad offseason, and bad offseasons in NFL personnel markets ALWAYS are felt on the field. The Patriots fell from second in scoring defense in the championships season of 2004 (16.3 PPG) to 17th in 2005 (21.1 PPG).
The Patriots since that day have struggled to find defensive talent, and they’ve struggled to field championship-caliber defenses.
They’ve fielded some decent units, sure, but certainly none to fear. The Patriots entered the Monday night game, for example, with what appeared on paper to be the second-best defense in football (16.4 ppg). But as we saw on the field, that number was just an illusion.
They’ve yet to come up big in a big game since the last Super Bowl season. They’ve yet to piece together a shut-down crew, the kind that beat up Marshall Faulk in Kurt Warner in Super Bowl XXXVI, or embarrassed MVP Peyton Manning in the 2003 and 2004 playoffs, or that made Donovan McNabb vomit under the pressure on national television.
Instead, since those days, the New England defense has folded like a bath towel time and again in critical moments.
Defensive geniuses don’t whiff on defensive draft picks year after year. Defensive geniuses don’t whiff on free agent signings year after year — hell, you could argue that reality TV star Junior Seau has been New England’s most coveted defensive signing of the last three years. Defensive geniuses don’t watch their defenses collapse in critical moments of big games year after year.
And defensive geniuses don’t watch Drew Brees produce one of the great passing days in the history of the game against their team.
pfitz.
He doesn’t have 1 legit ring and he’s 32, the 3 he won aided by cameras are only recognized as legitimate by marble mouthed dopes who reside in New England.
Hold me closer tiny dancer
“Aww, why so sad little guy? Hey, I found something to cheer you up…is that a quarter behind your ear?”
CT Pats Fan:
“Lets also remember that the Saints took their foot off the pedal when Brady didn’t come back. In that game, that night, they could have hung another 21 on the Pats D in 5 minutes, if they really tried.”
I think he realized that if he kept trying to score and kept his starters in he risked injury and the possibility that the Saints would have kept their collective feet on the gas peddle. The Saints could have easily hung a 50 on the Pats. The score was not even close to how lopsided the game was, especially in the second half. Brady looked lost.
I have total respect for the Pats and what they have done Super Bowl wise and being able to keep their team at or near the top, but they have been known to pound a few teams when they are down for the count…….not that there’s anything wrong with that…….
“Take this Adam Lambert”
As a Patriot fan we can only admit that we got our asses handed to us on Monday by a very special team down in New Orleans.
Our secondary which came into the game as a “strong point” proved to be anything but. Our run defense held it’s own. Our running game was better than expected. And our passing game failed to capitalize on a secondary that had 2 starting corners that had been out of football for all of this season.
I hope we can get another crack at Indy in the AFC Championship game (we gave that game away, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise). And if the Saints make it to the SB I will pray to all lords and gods for a puncher’s chance.
Even lord Florio.
DB: You gotta real pretty mouth.
@ PornFlorio
Yes, it’s always been the defense. That’s why when the Pats broke the ALL TIME SCORING RECORD it was Brady that couldn’t stop Eli and Miggets when it counted.
Your argument is so moronic that maybe you need to get your head up your ass so you can see shit clearly.
Sorry, I have to agree with all of you (and Florio) who said it was extremely cowardly to pull your starters out without ‘finishing the game’ like BB and Tom Brady claimed they were doing when they butchered the Redskins a few years ago and the Titans more recently. I can’t stand the Redskins, but even I felt anger over that. However, when the criticism came in, ol’ Bill and Tommy Boy talked bravely about finishing the game and playing for a full 60 minutes.
However, whoever the Pat’s fan is (above) who said that you (actually Bill) pull the people who aren’t getting the job done – he makes sense too. So… let’s face it, we’re going to look at this like we want to and quite frankly I’m sticking with the ‘he’s a coward deep down’ and on the surface he wanted to protect his guys.
Jackson says:
December 2, 2009 4:46 PM
# James says: December 2, 2009 4:06 PM
“Amazing! After kicking our ass you still smell like lavender. ”
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LMAO……we have a winner
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LMAO indeed! We have a winner! Either that one or this one:
ForeverRebuilding says:
December 2, 2009 5:08 PM
Hold me closer tiny dancer
Ranoversquarells says:
December 2, 2009 5:12 PM
As a Patriot fan we can only admit that we got our asses handed to us on Monday by a very special team down in New Orleans.
Our secondary which came into the game as a “strong point” proved to be anything but. Our run defense held it’s own. Our running game was better than expected. And our passing game failed to capitalize on a secondary that had 2 starting corners that had been out of football for all of this season.
I hope we can get another crack at Indy in the AFC Championship game (we gave that game away, don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise). And if the Saints make it to the SB I will pray to all lords and gods for a puncher’s chance.
Even lord Florio.
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In THAT case, the Rams, Panthers and Eagles “gave away” those three games as well….and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
You know you’ve made a terrible coaching decision when it’s almost guaranteed that people will say in response, “Come on, Man!”
danmateus75 says:
December 2, 2009 5:05 PM
The seeds of Monday’s historic defensive downfall have been planted in a series of bad drafts, in a series of bad personnel decisions (including players signed and players sent packing) and in the assistant coaching exodus that has taken place every year since the last Super Bowl.
The Patriots have not made an impact free agent signing on defense since Rodney Harrison in 2003. They haven’t made an impact draft pick in the secondary since Asante Samuel in 2003. They haven’t made an impact draft pick on defense, period, since Vince Wilfork in 2004 (though 2008 Defensive Rookie of the Year Jerod Mayo could prove to be that next great stalwart).
You can even pinpoint the moment at which it all began to fall apart — in the wake of Super Bowl XXXIX in February 2005, New England’s last championship. Offensive coordinator Charlie Weis left for Notre Dame. Defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel left for the Cleveland Browns. (Both, of course, are out of work today.)
But it was in the personnel department that offseason when things begin to unravel.
The Patriots whiffed badly everywhere. In the free agent market, they signed the likes of career backup Monte Beisel and 35-year-old Chad Brown to play linebacker. The draft was no better: The Patriots selected corner Ellis Hobbs, safety James Sanders and linebacker Ryan Claridge. Hobbs today is a kick-return specialist in Philly, Sanders is a special teamer for New England, and Claridge never played a down in the NFL.
That’s a bad offseason, and bad offseasons in NFL personnel markets ALWAYS are felt on the field. The Patriots fell from second in scoring defense in the championships season of 2004 (16.3 PPG) to 17th in 2005 (21.1 PPG).
The Patriots since that day have struggled to find defensive talent, and they’ve struggled to field championship-caliber defenses.
They’ve fielded some decent units, sure, but certainly none to fear. The Patriots entered the Monday night game, for example, with what appeared on paper to be the second-best defense in football (16.4 ppg). But as we saw on the field, that number was just an illusion.
They’ve yet to come up big in a big game since the last Super Bowl season. They’ve yet to piece together a shut-down crew, the kind that beat up Marshall Faulk in Kurt Warner in Super Bowl XXXVI, or embarrassed MVP Peyton Manning in the 2003 and 2004 playoffs, or that made Donovan McNabb vomit under the pressure on national television.
Instead, since those days, the New England defense has folded like a bath towel time and again in critical moments.
Defensive geniuses don’t whiff on defensive draft picks year after year. Defensive geniuses don’t whiff on free agent signings year after year — hell, you could argue that reality TV star Junior Seau has been New England’s most coveted defensive signing of the last three years. Defensive geniuses don’t watch their defenses collapse in critical moments of big games year after year.
And defensive geniuses don’t watch Drew Brees produce one of the great passing days in the history of the game against their team.
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POST OF THE SEASON
GREAT analysis, dan. Pats fans need to read and re-read this one until they absorb the truth of it all. Face it, Pats fan losers…your team is DONE.
Drew: “Emperor Palpatine, your time has come. Anakin no longer is a match against the force. The Dark Side has fallen.”
“When people told me that you were a backdoor man coach. I thought they were talking about women. Never in my imagination would I have guessed you take it up the ass.”
PornFlorio says:
December 2, 2009 4:55 PM
pfitz says:
December 2, 2009 4:14 PM
Florio he is supposedly one of the greatest?He had 3 rings by the time he was 30 you dingleberry..
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Courtesy of the Pats’ DEFENSE, moron. Too bad you Pats fan idiots never give the TRUE CREDIT where it belongs. Brady was just along for the ride…Trent Dilfer, just three times instead of one. Notice that now that the focus in New England in on the OFFENSE, the Pats can’t win shit when it matters most. LMFAO!!!!
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But Brady did bring them down the field
to put them in position to score.
So ignor everything I said before, I’m stupid!!
LMFAO!!!!!
Caption for the video should read:
” Kiss me, Tom will never know ”
OR
” I’m in room #422 at the Hilton “
Ranoversquarells:
“Our secondary which came into the game as a “strong point” proved to be anything but. ”
Besides the one play with the blown coverage, the Pats secondary did not play a bad game. Brees just put the ball exactly where it needed to be. Brees was on fire and perfect coverage has no defense to that.
Don’t be down on the Pats secondary, they are not bad, they just ran into a very finally tuned buzz saw named Drew Brees…….
The great season of 19 and oh, I mean 18 and 1 they didn’t worry about anyone getting injured. They like to run up points on others but cry for mercy when they’re getting “Stomped Out” LMAO. The Pat’s are just sore losers with fans that make up excuses for everything.
The Truth Has Been Spoken
Belichick: “We’re thinking bout shipping Brady to Oakland for a couple of #1′s…let me know when you’re ready to ride the Hoodie Train.”
Tell Giselle to give Tom his balls back next time.
Florio why do I get the feeling you are the type of guy that used to cock block your friends?
Belichick: “Let’s make this quick, my wife is getting my 2 iron.”
Belichick: “Let’s make this quick my wife is getting my 2 iron.”
Love him or hate him, one thing you cannot deny-BB articles are by far the most commented on. You should give him a cut of your profits, Florio.
Brees: “It rubs the lotion on its skin. It does this when it’s told or else it gets the hose again.”
Brees: Can you believe that Tiger and those whoeers?
Billichick: I wonder if he took video.
Ranoversquarells says:
Yes, it’s always been the defense. That’s why when the Pats broke the ALL TIME SCORING RECORD it was Brady that couldn’t stop Eli and Miggets when it counted.
Your argument is so moronic that maybe you need to get your head up your ass so you can see shit clearly.
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I think you just made his point. When the Pats offense became good and started breaking records, they LOST the Superbowl. Brady won his first ring with 137 yards passing for the entire game. Ty Law scored as many TD’s as Brady in that game.
It’s a freaking 60 minute game. No wonder they’ve lost to the Colts twice. If anything, they should know that better than any team.
Belichick: What message do you think you sent to your team when you sponsor early quitting like that???
listen, how’s 5 years with 100 mill guaranteed sound?
I will tell you exactly why BB gave up. Its because I had:
Welker >8.5 catches
Pats pts >27
Pats pts 2nd half >14.5
and needed 1 more TD from Brees to complete a miracle comeback in fantasy and win a playoff spot.
God was punishing me for my gambling sins. I apologize to everyone else who was negatively impacted by this decision.
“Drew, Why can’t I quit you”
Florio..did you actually watch the game? No one in the world thought the Patriots had any chance of coming back in that game. They couldnt stop the saints…..their offense sputtered…….enough already. The Saints gave the Pats a whoopin…..Patriot fan have accepted it…maybe you should too…and move on
Oh Drew it hurts so good
No the Saints aren’t the 2003, Bucs, who in title were the Defending Super Bowl Champions….
This isn’t about YOU, Florio.
Belichick had a simple choice… try to overcome a three touchdown deficit in five minutes against a team that dominated the Pats from the middle of the first quarter on, or make sure that he could protect some key starters from injury. As a Patriots’ fan, I believe he made the right call.
Belichick can’t win with the media (and yes, I am loosely including PFT in this category) regardless of the decision he makes. First, it was the ESPN folks making something out of nothing, and now it’s you. Move on, already.
Now Billy looking sweet though he dresses like a queen
He can kick like a mule
It’s a real mean team
# packerssuck says: December 2, 2009 4:19 PM
Officially done with this site. I just deleted the bookmark. Since you moved to NBC you have gone down hill faster than Entourage. Will you even pretend at some point not to have a complete hatred for the Patriots? Some of us are just so bored with it.
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I think this guy has a good point.
This is probably too long for a caption, but I might get fancy with some audio swapage and put this on youtube:
Drew: Bill, it was a tough game for Pats fans. What does it mean to you now that the team is struggling?
Bill: I wanna kish you. I couldn’t care lesh about the team struuuggggaaling. What we know is we can improve. Tom, our quarterback, missed lasht season, and we struuuggled. We’re looking to nexsht game, we’re looking to make a noise now and … I wanna kiss you!
You get the feeling sometimes Belichik was a genius but now he doesn’t have the same players and he’s not so smart so now he’s trying to do the opposite of what he would have.
# packerssuck says: December 2, 2009 4:19 PM
Officially done with this site. I just deleted the bookmark. Since you moved to NBC you have gone down hill faster than Entourage. Will you even pretend at some point not to have a complete hatred for the Patriots? Some of us are just so bored with it.
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I am bookmarking it twice because Florio is the only one calling out the Pats for being the pussies they are.
“Don Corleone, I am honored and grateful that you have invited me to your daughter… ‘s wedding… on the day of your daughter’s wedding. And I hope their first child… be a masculine child. I pledge my ever… ending… loyalty.”…
or…
“c’mon billy – give daddy a kiss…”
that was such a patsy thing to do. whoever said they can dish it but cant take it is right. put the spygate stuff the 4th down call against the colts and this together and you get a patsy.
In my opinion the decision to pull players was very much about psychology.
The Pats have this funny thing going for them. They have a mystique. They have an aura that’s bigger than they are. When teams play them it’s expected that the Pats will, more often than not, just be better prepared and execute better. They don’t get rattled. They pull games out against great teams by thinking further ahead. They play their own game and do not have the game dictated to them. It’s almost assumed that if a player is a Patriot more is expected from them right off the bat -that somehow they are already polished. I think even the Pats players themselves believe this. That’s how high the expectation bar has been set there.
But this perfection clearly cannot be real. People just don’t suddenly get transformed. There’s always a process. While BB may have success in finding players who have the physical skills to execute what they need to execute, and the mental skills to know what they should do within the scheme for a given situation, he cannot change their psychology overnight. He needs to get them to buy into the program. He needs to groom them by putting them in situations where they can see they can be successful when they see the field the same way he does. If a developing team is blown out by a superior opponent and individual players start to show signs of falling back on instinctual behavior and bad habits, it’s time to remove them before they take a big step backwards.
At the point in that game against the Saints, it was clear that they were on fire. They were making plays on defense and the Pats were trying to push things and failing. And when Brees was on the field he was making consistently absurdly precise throws. The Saints were just the better team that day. It looked to me like the Pats were a little frustrated by how error-free the Saints were. When you start to get out of your game plan and start looking rattled your chances of injury are a lot greater. An injury to a core piece,at that point especially on offense would be catastrophic to the Pats season.
Secondly do you keep your team in there when they are getting more and more visibly frustrated, in a game you aren’t going to win, and help plant the seed that the Pats can be rattled? Or do you cut your losses?
After learning under Parcells it’s not such a surprise that Belichick has taken some of the psychology lessons with him. It’s just another battlefield in the war. The big picture is that there’s still a season to play out. One game, especially when you’ve gotten what you can get out of it, isn’t worth risking the season on.
BB: I Love you man.
DB: I Love you too.
BB: Lets get Married.
Butt-whooping in Big Easy, Belichick Bites Brees Birthmark.
Goddamnit Bill, next time spit it out before you kiss me.
@ Wishbone….I didn’t see the colts yell uncle after they were getting clearly owned on both sides of the ball to the gaytriots with a 17 pt deficit in the last quarter of a game….but they probably should of… not like they had a chance to win, right?
You want a caption? How about I just write a freakin’ gay joke? I mean, seriously, what more needs to be said about that still frame?
At the very least they could’ve made it more respectable.
B: Psst, don’t drink the milk.
D: Why?
B: It’s spoiled.
“We’re trading Brady”
“I’m listening”
Homophobe jokes are too easy and a little classless.
Very little mind you
I don’t want the free year subscription, just my money back from last years.
BeliQuit to Brees, “I will always have a place for you in New England…”
@ danmateus75 and PornFlorio..
Dan, nice work there. As a Patriots fan I’d agree with you on a number of points. However, you fail to mention a couple key things.
The draft picks the Patriots have had.. except for Mayo, have all been in the far lower portion of the first round; hence the lack of an “impact” signing. The fact is that “blue-chippers” are a very very rare thing when you are constantly having to draft at the bottom of the round. With that in mind, the Patriots like to trade down into the second and chance finding value to cost. With the current rookie contract levels and then having a team like New England does, this is a factor. Think about it.. this DECADE has been one where the Patriots are consistantly in the mix.. CONSISTANTLY. I would challenge you to give me another three teams that odds-makers seriously have to consider in their betting. For and entire DECADE… not 3-5yrs.
In regards to personnel.. front office and coaching. There definately has been a “brain drain” since the initial Super Bowl; yet the Patriots continue to succeed. Again, look at the player contracts. Brady, Moss, Wilfork, Warren, Mayo and Welker.. all of these pieces have to fit finacially. Seymour didn’t and they knew he wouldn’t so they took Oakland’s first rounder next year (most likely a top 10).
New England has no “real” offensive coordinator currently, after McDaniel’s departure. Now keep in mind the known work ethic that BB has and then add on the offensive side of things.. this year is to much for him.
The defense is starting to get younger now and the Patriots will continue to, as they were even back when they won the first Super Bowl, a “bend-don’t-break” defense.
In New Orleans they broke. They gave up BIG plays.. and that is a rarity. Normally, teams are forced into third down situations vs. New England but the Saints weren’t.. Indy was in the first couple quarters but then they turned it on in the 4th.
I find it rather funny that because the Patriots lose to two undefeated teams that their organization is now “DONE.”
Respect to the Saints and Indy.. they are good teams but please PornFlorio… get yourself checked for a concussion huh??
PS: Let’s revisit this in the postseason.
DB: “Bill, do you really want to expose your jugular vein to me again”
Brohamma says:
December 3, 2009 2:54 AM
@ danmateus75 and PornFlorio..
Dan, nice work there. As a Patriots fan I’d agree with you on a number of points. However, you fail to mention a couple key things.
The draft picks the Patriots have had.. except for Mayo, have all been in the far lower portion of the first round; hence the lack of an “impact” signing. The fact is that “blue-chippers” are a very very rare thing when you are constantly having to draft at the bottom of the round. With that in mind, the Patriots like to trade down into the second and chance finding value to cost. With the current rookie contract levels and then having a team like New England does, this is a factor. Think about it.. this DECADE has been one where the Patriots are consistantly in the mix.. CONSISTANTLY. I would challenge you to give me another three teams that odds-makers seriously have to consider in their betting. For and entire DECADE… not 3-5yrs.
In regards to personnel.. front office and coaching. There definately has been a “brain drain” since the initial Super Bowl; yet the Patriots continue to succeed. Again, look at the player contracts. Brady, Moss, Wilfork, Warren, Mayo and Welker.. all of these pieces have to fit finacially. Seymour didn’t and they knew he wouldn’t so they took Oakland’s first rounder next year (most likely a top 10).
New England has no “real” offensive coordinator currently, after McDaniel’s departure. Now keep in mind the known work ethic that BB has and then add on the offensive side of things.. this year is to much for him.
The defense is starting to get younger now and the Patriots will continue to, as they were even back when they won the first Super Bowl, a “bend-don’t-break” defense.
In New Orleans they broke. They gave up BIG plays.. and that is a rarity. Normally, teams are forced into third down situations vs. New England but the Saints weren’t.. Indy was in the first couple quarters but then they turned it on in the 4th.
I find it rather funny that because the Patriots lose to two undefeated teams that their organization is now “DONE.”
Respect to the Saints and Indy.. they are good teams but please PornFlorio… get yourself checked for a concussion huh??
PS: Let’s revisit this in the postseason.
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The Pats ALSO lost to the Broncos AND the pathetic Jets…and nearly lost to the pathetic Bills AND the mediocre Ravens.
PS: The postseason for the Pats will be very short…so don’t blink.
PPS: You STILL can’t refute the FACT that the Pats STILL haven’t beaten ONE SINGLE GOOD TEAM this season.
Sounds like you are the one who needs checking.
DarnFlorio says:
December 3, 2009 1:14 PM
Brohamma says:
December 3, 2009 2:54 AM
@ danmateus75 and PornFlorio..
Dan, nice work there. As a Patriots fan I’d agree with you on a number of points. However, you fail to mention a couple key things.
The draft picks the Patriots have had.. except for Mayo, have all been in the far lower portion of the first round; hence the lack of an “impact” signing. The fact is that “blue-chippers” are a very very rare thing when you are constantly having to draft at the bottom of the round. With that in mind, the Patriots like to trade down into the second and chance finding value to cost. With the current rookie contract levels and then having a team like New England does, this is a factor. Think about it.. this DECADE has been one where the Patriots are consistantly in the mix.. CONSISTANTLY. I would challenge you to give me another three teams that odds-makers seriously have to consider in their betting. For and entire DECADE… not 3-5yrs.
In regards to personnel.. front office and coaching. There definately has been a “brain drain” since the initial Super Bowl; yet the Patriots continue to succeed. Again, look at the player contracts. Brady, Moss, Wilfork, Warren, Mayo and Welker.. all of these pieces have to fit finacially. Seymour didn’t and they knew he wouldn’t so they took Oakland’s first rounder next year (most likely a top 10).
New England has no “real” offensive coordinator currently, after McDaniel’s departure. Now keep in mind the known work ethic that BB has and then add on the offensive side of things.. this year is to much for him.
The defense is starting to get younger now and the Patriots will continue to, as they were even back when they won the first Super Bowl, a “bend-don’t-break” defense.
In New Orleans they broke. They gave up BIG plays.. and that is a rarity. Normally, teams are forced into third down situations vs. New England but the Saints weren’t.. Indy was in the first couple quarters but then they turned it on in the 4th.
I find it rather funny that because the Patriots lose to two undefeated teams that their organization is now “DONE.”
Respect to the Saints and Indy.. they are good teams but please PornFlorio… get yourself checked for a concussion huh??
PS: Let’s revisit this in the postseason.
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The Pats ALSO lost to the Broncos AND the pathetic Jets…and nearly lost to the pathetic Bills AND the mediocre Ravens.
PS: The postseason for the Pats will be very short…so don’t blink.
PPS: You STILL can’t refute the FACT that the Pats STILL haven’t beaten ONE SINGLE GOOD TEAM this season.
Sounds like you are the one who needs checking.
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I’m sorry, ignor that.
I’m still stupid!!! I need to get a LIFE!!!
All I do is change my user name, they
keep kicking out!!!
Sounds like you are the one who needs checking.
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And I wonder why I don’t have any friends?
I think Brees figured Bellicheck coached the 4th quarter like a b1tch so he was going to treat him like a b1tch and make Bellicheck give him a kiss.
P0rnFl0ri0 says:
December 3, 2009 2:00 PM
Sounds like you are the one who needs checking.
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And I wonder why I don’t have any friends?
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ANYONE who has to co-opt someone else’s screen name can’t have any friends…or a life. Welcome to your no-life, Imposter. How pathetic you are that you have to resort to such a pathetic display of your smallness…besides the time that you flashed those old ladies in the Boston Common that is. I heard that they got quite the laugh at your “smallness” that day.
DarnFlorio says:
December 3, 2009 2:17 PM
P0rnFl0ri0 says:
December 3, 2009 2:00 PM
Sounds like you are the one who needs checking.
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And I wonder why I don’t have any friends?
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ANYONE who has to co-opt someone else’s screen name can’t have any friends…or a life. Welcome to your no-life, Imposter. How pathetic you are that you have to resort to such a pathetic display of your smallness…besides the time that you flashed those old ladies in the Boston Common that is. I heard that they got quite the laugh at your “smallness” that day.
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Oh man, now I am talking to myself.
I guess that’s almost like I have a friend.
I am a loser! All those years mom
was spot on.
P0rnFl0ri0 says:
December 3, 2009 2:47 PM
DarnFlorio says:
December 3, 2009 2:17 PM
P0rnFl0ri0 says:
December 3, 2009 2:00 PM
Sounds like you are the one who needs checking.
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And I wonder why I don’t have any friends?
_________
ANYONE who has to co-opt someone else’s screen name can’t have any friends…or a life. Welcome to your no-life, Imposter. How pathetic you are that you have to resort to such a pathetic display of your smallness…besides the time that you flashed those old ladies in the Boston Common that is. I heard that they got quite the laugh at your “smallness” that day.
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Oh man, now I am talking to myself.
I guess that’s almost like I have a friend.
I am a loser! All those years mom
was spot on.
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What a PATHETIC LOSER you are, you COWARDLY IMPOSTER.
Typical New England/Boston sports “fan” behavior. I guess all those years of the Yankees bashing your pathetic baseball team has inbred the loser mentality into the general populace. Makes sense that it bled into the rest of the sports-watching people there as well.
@ PornFlorio:
Haha. First time anything you have said I could remotely agree with. Your newfound honesty is refreshing. However, you have a long way to go to fully repent for your disgracefully irrelevant commentary on PFT over the last year or so.
If I keep calling myself a loser does that make it so?
If I keep responding to myself under a
different user name does that make me
crazy?
I still think it’s just like I have a friend!!!
LMFAO!!!! I’m crazy
Sure thing, COWARDLY IMPOSTER. Too bad your only “friends” are your male “customers” that you suck off for dollar bills. LMFAO!!!!!
Pornflorio, cornflorio, darnflorio.
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me!!!
P0rnFl0ri0 says:
December 4, 2009 8:39 AM
Pornflorio, cornflorio, darnflorio.
I’m a loser baby, so why don’t you kill me!!!
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Gladly, COWARDLY IMPOSTER. Although the cost of even using one bullet would be more than your miserable life is worth.
this conversation with myself is going
nowhere.
I should change my user name again,
then it will be like I have a new friend.
LMFAO!!!!
P0rnFl0ri0 says:
December 4, 2009 11:03 AM
this conversation with myself is going
nowhere.
I should change my user name again,
then it will be like I have a new friend.
LMFAO!!!!
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Keep on telling yourself that, COWARDLY IMPOSTER. Why don’t you do all of us a favor, COWARDLY IMPOSTER…just off yourself and do the rest of the world a favor.
BB: Yes Drew, you may kiss my rings now. You won the bet.
DB: Thank you Bill. May I have a hug first?
BB: I suppose.