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League announces the November players of the month

We mentioned on Thursday that the league has named Vikings quarterback Brett Favre the NFC offensive player of the month, that Colts defensive end Robert Mathis has secured the AFC defensive player of the month honor, and that Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn has won the AFC special teams player of the month prize.

Those three names surfaced on Thursday because their respective teams sent out news releases.  The other three winners for the months were named in a league-wide missive.  So in order to avoid the perception that we’re in some way dissing those honorees not named Favre or Mathis or Ginn, here’s the rest of the list.

In the AFC, the offensive player of the month is Titans running back Chris Johnson.  He rushed for 800 yards in five games, with a per-carry average of 6.6 yards.  He racked up the most rushing yards by any NFL player since 1970, an era in which the run was far more prevalent than it is today.

He’s also the first Titan to win such recognition since Steve McNair in October 2003, a season that ended with McNair and Colts quarterback Peyton Manning sharing the league MVP award.

The NFC defensive player of the month is Packers cornerback Charles Woodson.  The 1997 Heisman winner (one of the few to become great NFL players) also won the award in September 2009, and he appears to be on track for the NFL defensive player of the year award, which is determined not by the league but by the Associated Press.

During November, Woodson twice was named NFC defensive player of the week, and he also gave $2 million to the C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital and Women’s Hospital at the University of Michigan, Woodson’s alma mater.

The NFC special team player of the month is Eagles kicker David Akers.  He kicked the ball a bunch of times, and he made all of them.

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  1. green&bold says: Dec 4, 2009 8:00 AM

    The packers are soooo lucky that no one really was fighting for his services when he was a free agent a few years ago. We haven’t had a player near his caliber since Leroy Butler in his prime.

  2. GBP says: Dec 4, 2009 8:30 AM

    Go Woodson. DPOY!!!

  3. wkedklwnz says: Dec 4, 2009 8:30 AM

    That description for David Akers is the best I have ever seen for why a player has received “player of month” honors.
    I mean Chris Johnson and Charles Woodson, hey they get two paragraphs.
    Akers though, one sentence. “He kicked the ball a bunch of times, and he made all of them.”
    Words to live by right there.
    Bravo, Florio, Bravo.

  4. GBPackers says: Dec 4, 2009 8:45 AM

    And lets get this straight, Chuck doesnt deserve the award right Minny fan?

  5. Chimeric says: Dec 4, 2009 8:45 AM

    He kicked the ball a bunch of times, and he made all of them.
    Heh, for some reason that reminds me of this: http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/placekicker_using_practice

  6. GBP says: Dec 4, 2009 8:48 AM

    Nice, GB has the league’s #1 defense, and DPOY.

  7. GBP says: Dec 4, 2009 8:48 AM

    Nice, GB has the league’s #1 defense, and DPOY.

  8. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 9:10 AM

    GBP says:
    December 4, 2009 8:48 AM
    Nice, GB has the league’s #1 defense, and DPOY.
    ===================================
    Well,since all you Packers are pissing all over the Peterson thread this morning with retarded takes,thought I’d join you!
    Wow,brag up that wildcard at best #1D Packer nation! You know,the one that couldn’t stop the Vikings or the Buccs. Woodson,man he is good! Look at what he did to Favre!! Opps,that was nothing! 7tds 0 picks! You ALL KNOW Favre is the one you wanted to pick,but he owned you guys like room service twice this year! Be proud though!

  9. just_a_cigar says: Dec 4, 2009 9:16 AM

    Charles Woodson is just plain incredible. There really is nothing more to say. So I’ll stop typing. Way to be awesome, C-Wood!

  10. daPACK says: Dec 4, 2009 9:16 AM

    Well,since all you Packers are pissing all over the Peterson thread this morning with retarded takes,thought I’d join you!
    Wow,brag up that wildcard at best #1D Packer nation! You know,the one that couldn’t stop the Vikings or the Buccs. Woodson,man he is good! Look at what he did to Favre!! Opps,that was nothing! 7tds 0 picks! You ALL KNOW Favre is the one you wanted to pick,but he owned you guys like room service twice this year! Be proud though!
    ___________________________________
    You are such an idiot. Woodson is the best corner in the league. I can’t stand Minnesota Vikings fans. One year you are diehard fan, the next year you all jump off the bandwagon. Make up your mind…. Can’t wait to see the LA Vikings.

  11. cusoman says: Dec 4, 2009 9:19 AM

    What good is a #1 defense if it can’t stop the teams sitting squarely in your way for the playoffs? The Packers, even if they make it to the playoffs, will enter one of two domes and never make it out alive.

  12. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 9:31 AM

    daPACK says:
    December 4, 2009 9:16 AM
    You are such an idiot. Woodson is the best corner in the league.
    ————————————————–
    You are such an idiot. Darrelle Revis is the best CB in the NFL. Which viking did Woodson shut down?? None.Passed all day on you. Fact.

  13. Click Here To Continue Reading... says: Dec 4, 2009 9:33 AM

    # GBP says: December 4, 2009 8:48 AM
    Nice, GB has the league’s #1 defense, and DPOY.

    I mean no offense here but one thing to consider… its easy to have the #1 defense in the NFL when you play the likes of Chicago, Detroit(twice thus far), St Louis, Cleveland, etc… GB has had a very easy schedule. By the looks of the schedule they should close out as the #1 defense, too.

  14. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 9:44 AM

    daPack-The list of receivers Derrelle Revis has blanketed this season reads like a Pro Bowl roster: Houston’s Andre Johnson, New England’s Randy Moss, Buffalo’s Terrell Owens,Saint Marcus Colston and now Steve Smith. Woodson is good,has the stats. But as far as a true shut down,any team would take Revis first. I know I wish he was a Viking. Thought I’d enhance your NFL IQ. You are welcome.

  15. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 9:55 AM

    Pervy,
    Woodsons peers say he’s the best in the league. Gotta go with that versus a site clowns opinion.

  16. The Hormel Row of Fame says: Dec 4, 2009 9:56 AM

    Wow. Thank dapack for not only posting something “original” to rip on the Vikings, but for proving how useless you really are to adult conversation. Be gone, little man.

  17. cusoman says: Dec 4, 2009 10:02 AM

    @Supersuckers
    AP’s peers says he’s the best in the league too, that doesn’t stop you mouthy cheeseheads from spouting inane statements like “Forte and Ryan Grant are better!” I mean, COME ON!

  18. whosthisguy says: Dec 4, 2009 10:06 AM

    As a Vikes fan, I am impressed by how the pack have switched to a 3-4 without much in the way of growing pains.
    But as far as DPOY I think Elvis in Denver will be saying “Thank you, Thank you very much”

  19. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 10:11 AM

    Supersuckers –
    Google it. Guess I’m a clown with NFL elite backing my opinion. Truth hurts.

  20. jeff says: Dec 4, 2009 10:15 AM

    Supersuckers says:
    December 4, 2009 9:55 AM
    Pervy,
    Woodsons peers say he’s the best in the league. Gotta go with that versus a site clowns opinion.
    ———————————————
    Please provide proof of this. I think this may be just another “site clowns” opinion.

  21. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 10:20 AM

    PervyHarvin says:
    December 4, 2009 9:10 AM
    Well,since all you Packers are pissing all over the Peterson thread this morning with retarded takes,thought I’d join you!
    Wow,brag up that wildcard at best #1D Packer nation! You know,the one that couldn’t stop the Vikings or the Buccs. Woodson,man he is good! Look at what he did to Favre!! Opps,that was nothing! 7tds 0 picks! You ALL KNOW Favre is the one you wanted to pick,but he owned you guys like room service twice this year! Be proud though!
    —————————–
    Don’t sell yourself short, Pervis. All your takes are retarded. The one quoted above is another shining example.
    Anyway, as I mentioned in two or three previous threads, the Packers’ defense is NOT what failed them in the Bucs game. Go look at the play by play. They allowed one TD drive greater than 20 yards. They allowed TDs on drives of 8 yards and 17 yards. And two TDs were scored when they weren’t even on the field. They held Tampa to less than 200 yards passing and less than 100 yards rushing.
    Meanwhile, the offense and special teams dropped the ball.
    Against the Vikings it was their inability to get to Favre, even when blitzing, that lost the game. No defense can consistently cover every receiver for 6-8 seconds. They will get open, and Favre has the arm to get the ball there.

  22. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 10:21 AM

    jeff says:
    December 4, 2009 10:15 AM
    Please provide proof of this. I think this may be just another “site clowns” opinion.
    ——————————
    There will be nothing funnier on this site for the remainder of the year. The one guy who consistently FAILS to provide any proof of the outlandish claims he makes actually has the audacity to ask for proof from someone else.
    Funny shit, Fagnar. You ought to be a stand-up.

  23. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 10:25 AM

    Click Here To Continue Reading… says:
    December 4, 2009 9:33 AM
    I mean no offense here but one thing to consider… its easy to have the #1 defense in the NFL when you play the likes of Chicago, Detroit(twice thus far), St Louis, Cleveland, etc… GB has had a very easy schedule. By the looks of the schedule they should close out as the #1 defense, too.
    ——————————
    Isn’t it the same lineup of buffoons that produced that vaunted #1 rush defense in Minneapolis for the last three years?

  24. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 10:34 AM

    @Shitterson – All my takes are retarded? My backing Revis above is more solid than any take you ever made. I pity those who,like you, think I spew nothing. I bring hard facts when needed,am a great football mind. Don’t hate!

  25. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 10:49 AM

    They say right now he’s playing the best. Entire Baltimore Ravens offense.

  26. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 10:52 AM

    I agree Adam. He rarely provides proof and his crystal ball is batting .200. Pervy there is nothing wrong with the wild card. Its the same round your Vikings played in last year. All you need to do is get in to hve a chance.

  27. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 10:54 AM

    cusoman,
    I never said anything about Peterson. Direct your anger elsewere.

  28. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 10:54 AM

    PervyHarvin says:
    December 4, 2009 10:34 AM
    @Shitterson – All my takes are retarded? My backing Revis above is more solid than any take you ever made. I pity those who,like you, think I spew nothing. I bring hard facts when needed,am a great football mind. Don’t hate!
    ——————————
    What position does LeRoy Butler play?
    I rest my case.

  29. purpleguy says: Dec 4, 2009 10:57 AM

    Woodson deserves the award — he’s been consistently good all year. Hell, he was even lights out in the pre-season.
    However, I wouldn’t exactly pop a chubby over the Pack’s number one ranked defense from a statistical perspective until it shuts down a good team. The Bengals ran at will against their 3-4 scheme and everyone saw what the Vikings did to that defense on two occasions. But hey, it’s a huge improvement over last year and Capers should get some credit, even with the bad comb-over.

  30. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 10:59 AM

    For the record, I’d take Revis over Woodson as a pure cover corner for several reasons, not the least of which is age.
    However, this season and throughout his career, Woodson has shown more versatility than you’ll ever see out of 99% of NFL players. He covers guys very well. He’s played safety. He’s returned kicks. He blitzes well. He forces fumbles. He picks off passes. And he scores when he gets the ball in his hands.
    As a shutdown corner and a foundation for the future I’d take Revis. For all-around impact along with great cover skills I’d take Woodson.

  31. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 11:20 AM

    Here is some proof. Good interview with Harbaugh discussing Woodson. If PFT lets it be posted. Its real short.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0&feature=rec-r2-2r-8-HM

  32. jeff says: Dec 4, 2009 11:27 AM

    Supersuckers says:
    December 4, 2009 10:49 AM
    They say right now he’s playing the best. Entire Baltimore Ravens offense
    ===============================
    Yikes, what do you think they are going to say?
    That is football 101 that you dont give the other team bulletin board material….next!
    ————————-Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    December 4, 2009 10:21 AM
    jeff says:
    December 4, 2009 10:15 AM
    Please provide proof of this. I think this may be just another “site clowns” opinion.
    ——————————
    There will be nothing funnier on this site for the remainder of the year. The one guy who consistently FAILS to provide any proof of the outlandish claims he makes actually has the audacity to ask for proof from someone else.
    Funny shit, Fagnar. You ought to be a stand-up.
    ———————
    I give you proof and you dismiss shit out of hand because it doesn’t fit in with your argument.
    I don’t know where you got the idea that you have far superior football knowledge to any one else on this site.
    You are a joke to everyone here. You are constantly in conflict with several other posters.
    That should tell you the problem is you, not everyone else!
    You are so infatuated with stats shitterson.
    Hers’s a hint, when you argue stats, you can twist them any way you want to make your argument legitimate. Are you that much of a tool not to see that? DOn’t answer, that is a rhetorical question.
    If you are as irritating offline as you are on here, I wouldn’t be suprised if you get your ass kicked on a weekly basis. You certainly have that happen to you verbally on a daily basis on here.
    I bet you have a face that people just want to punch, don’t you? I bet it just begs to be stricken repeatedly.
    You have zero knowledge, you twist stats to try and make the Packer look better than they really are. You are pathetic and everyone on here loathes you.

  33. jeff says: Dec 4, 2009 11:29 AM

    By the way shitterson, congrats on your award!!
    The award today goes to this gem from “statboy”
    AdamIliketomailmyshittootherpersons
    ================================
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    December 2, 2009 5:34 PM
    Too much emphasis is placed on win/loss record. This is an individual award. That doesn’t mean you start by looking at the rosters of playoff-bound teams. Johnson should absolutely be in the discussion. Then again, so should defensive players.
    ———————————————
    Yeah, because the awards always go to guys on losing teams. Notice how he is including defensive players in there? He’s dumb enough to think Woodson deserves it! Listen Shitterson, Woodson already has 1 piece of hardware he doesnt deserve….speaking of which you my inane freind are Asshat of the day, you are now entered in the asshat of the week, month and year!! here is your award:
    http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/asshat.jpg
    Make sure you all let Adam know he is todays winner!!!
    Tomorrow…..The asshat of the week award!

  34. FlorioEatsMyDuctButter says: Dec 4, 2009 11:32 AM

    I’m a little disappointed that Jake Delhomme didn’t get NFC Defensive Player of the Month!!

  35. cusoman says: Dec 4, 2009 11:46 AM

    @Supersuckers
    The entire Ravens offense? The offense of the team that’s playing the Pack this weekend? You don’t watch much football outside of the Packers, do you? This type of talk is pre-game posturing, and it’s done all the time. Give a big pat on the back to the team you’re playing to possibly instill some sort of overconfidence – it’s a big mind game.
    Forget the fact that the Ravens’ O aren’t Woodson’s “peers” considering Woodson plays on the other side of the ball. Woodson’s peers would be the other CBs in the league.

  36. Marc F says: Dec 4, 2009 11:47 AM

    “The NFC special team player of the month is Eagles kicker David Akers. He kicked the ball a bunch of times, and he made all of them.”
    he’s only holding the Eagles all-time scoring record. Florio, you’re such a tool.
    face it, your skins will not amount to ANYTHING till Dan “money up the wazooo” Snyder realizes money doesn’t buy a “team”. it makes you look foolish. but i guess that’s why you like them.. you both go for the big money..

  37. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 12:13 PM

    jeff says:
    December 4, 2009 11:27 AM
    I give you proof and you dismiss shit out of hand because it doesn’t fit in with your argument.
    I don’t know where you got the idea that you have far superior football knowledge to any one else on this site.
    You are a joke to everyone here. You are constantly in conflict with several other posters.
    That should tell you the problem is you, not everyone else!
    You are so infatuated with stats shitterson.
    Hers’s a hint, when you argue stats, you can twist them any way you want to make your argument legitimate. Are you that much of a tool not to see that? DOn’t answer, that is a rhetorical question.
    If you are as irritating offline as you are on here, I wouldn’t be suprised if you get your ass kicked on a weekly basis. You certainly have that happen to you verbally on a daily basis on here.
    I bet you have a face that people just want to punch, don’t you? I bet it just begs to be stricken repeatedly.
    You have zero knowledge, you twist stats to try and make the Packer look better than they really are. You are pathetic and everyone on here loathes you.
    —————————
    Let’s see.. Insults, insults, insults… No substance, no proof of ANY prior discussions.. Yep, par for the course.
    Thanks, jeff. You’ve made my day.

  38. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 12:14 PM

    jeff says:
    December 4, 2009 11:29 AM
    By the way shitterson, congrats on your award!!
    The award today goes to this gem from “statboy”
    AdamIliketomailmyshittootherpersons
    ================================
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    December 2, 2009 5:34 PM
    Too much emphasis is placed on win/loss record. This is an individual award. That doesn’t mean you start by looking at the rosters of playoff-bound teams. Johnson should absolutely be in the discussion. Then again, so should defensive players.
    ———————————————
    Yeah, because the awards always go to guys on losing teams. Notice how he is including defensive players in there? He’s dumb enough to think Woodson deserves it! Listen Shitterson, Woodson already has 1 piece of hardware he doesnt deserve….speaking of which you my inane freind are Asshat of the day, you are now entered in the asshat of the week, month and year!! here is your award:
    http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/asshat.jpg
    Make sure you all let Adam know he is todays winner!!!
    Tomorrow…..The asshat of the week award!
    —————————–
    You could name me asshat of the millennia and I still wouldn’t care. That’s the thing about idiots. You dismiss what they say because their opinion isn’t worth anything.

  39. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 12:48 PM

    None of our opinions matter Adam or else we wouldnt be on this site. We’d have a job in the NFL. Some fail to see that simple fact.

  40. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 12:58 PM

    @ Shitterson – Who gives af@ck about Leroy Butler. You wrong anyway,I said he was just a d back. Least you smart enough to pick Revis. Leon Hall and Champ Bailey are better too.
    Supersuckers- You are right,wildcard buys you a ticket to the show. Just a lot longer line to go through.

  41. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 1:15 PM

    I know this at least in the last 8 AFC divisional playoff games (2nd round for the dummies) the team that has had the bye and home field is 3-5. in the NFC 4-4. So that means if you secure your division and get a bye and then play at home you have less of a chance of winning that FIRST playoff game then losing it based upon the last 4 years. Why did I choose 4 years? Most of the players average around 4 years in the league on NFL rosters today. I am a numbers oriented person and use percentages and probabilities and historicals everyday. That line Pervy may not be that long. In fact your line may be longer based on the numbers.

  42. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 1:18 PM

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    Among the study’s findings are that cheesehead wearers are 33% less likely to be treated for frostbite of the ears and 66% less likely to suffer from “steaming head syndrome.”
    As a result of the studies findings, the management of the Packers are considering making cheeseheads mandatory headwear for all games games held at Lambeau Field in December and beyond.

  43. jeff says: Dec 4, 2009 1:23 PM

    Supersuckers says:
    December 4, 2009 10:52 AM
    I agree Adam. He rarely provides proof and his crystal ball is batting .200. Pervy there is nothing wrong with the wild card. Its the same round your Vikings played in last year. All you need to do is get in to hve a chance.
    =================================
    Super:
    Your childish attempts to bait me into exploding are growing tiresome. please find something better to do with your time than to come onto PFT under at least 5 (five!!) aliases.

  44. jeff says: Dec 4, 2009 2:25 PM

    Supersuckers says:
    December 4, 2009 1:15 PM
    I know this at least in the last 8 AFC divisional playoff games (2nd round for the dummies) the team that has had the bye and home field is 3-5. in the NFC 4-4. So that means if you secure your division and get a bye and then play at home you have less of a chance of winning that FIRST playoff game then losing it based upon the last 4 years. Why did I choose 4 years? Most of the players average around 4 years in the league on NFL rosters today. I am a numbers oriented person and use percentages and probabilities and historicals everyday. That line Pervy may not be that long. In fact your line may be longer based on the numbers.
    ==============================
    Again with no links or anything to back you up?
    If we are calling me out for “supposed” no proof, then let’s all be held to that standard huh?
    Choosing 4 years had nothing to do with your little “formula” not working out in your favor huh?
    How bout your team makes the playoffs 1st before you start setting up your scenarios?
    Or, do you have the only “working’ crystal ball?
    Wait, you clarify your statements all the time, so as to never be proved wrong, right?
    I’m thinking of giving you the asshat of the week just for being so wishy washy.

  45. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 2:39 PM

    @ jeff- must go to the Peterson fumbling thread. You have been summoned.

  46. MinneapolisResident says: Dec 4, 2009 2:49 PM

    Wood’s playing the best ball of his career right now. Definitely take Revis as a shutdown corner, but Woodson at this stage is a much more complete player.
    Dude, I love the fact that Chicken and Pervy call Schefterson Shitterson. Third grade shit. Must sting a lot coming from a washed-up, debt-ridden 36 year old ex-boxer. At least he has an excuse. Jeff, what’s your excuse for being such a douchebag?

  47. Route36West says: Dec 4, 2009 3:39 PM

    David Akers has played alot better this month then his previous 4 years, but I dont buy it. Its not going to stay that way for long. He used to be the best clutch kicker in the game but he has been the exact opposite of that the last few years. If it wasnt for him choking on short kicks or making barely 25% of his kicks 45 yards or longer the Eagles would have won 15 more games over the last 4 years.
    Eagles’ fans and front office have had their blinders on when it comes to this guy and Im afraid that b/c of his great performance this past month it might buy him another 3 years of substandard kicking. Also it will probly cause another 10 David Akers losses during that time period.
    I think special teams is the only true weakness of the Eagles and it will probly cost them a game when their isnt another one to get it right.
    Please Join the Sav Rocca for Retirement Club and get a free 1 year subscription to pft.com

  48. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 3:45 PM

    I went to wikipedia and started with “2005 NFl season” and looked at the playoff bracket. Did the same for 06, 07, 08. There was no link. Plus Florio pointed out in his video yesterday. I was curious as to what the percentages were and suprisingly, in the last 4 years, the teams that have had the 1 or 2 seed in the nfl in their respective conference, has lost their first playoff game more then they have won.

  49. Supersuckers says: Dec 4, 2009 3:47 PM

    I explained why I used 4 years. Its the average amount of time each player on all 32 teams 53 man roster has been in the league. Valid?? i dont know. Made sense to me. I can go back further i guess….maybe I will.

  50. jeff says: Dec 4, 2009 4:23 PM

    Pervy:
    daily/ weekly asshat awards on Peterson fumbling thread.

  51. MinneapolisResident says: Dec 4, 2009 4:45 PM

    Oh settle down, John. I would post something relevant to football, but you invade every thread with your pathetic rants and “great football mind.” I’ll be at Ichiban for dinner, why don’t you stop down and I’ll buy you a drink? Or maybe since you are not a debt-ridden ex-boxer, you can buy me one. You can see my wife’s reaction to your wealth.

  52. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 5:04 PM

    PervyHarvin says:
    December 4, 2009 12:58 PM
    @ Shitterson – Who gives af@ck about Leroy Butler. You wrong anyway,I said he was just a d back. Least you smart enough to pick Revis. Leon Hall and Champ Bailey are better too.
    ——————————
    No, you compared him head-to-head with Antoine Winfield and then claimed to know what you were talking about. That was the same post when you said Shiancoe was better than Chmura (but neglected to mention Keith Jackson) and made many other stupid mistakes.
    Oh, and you said Jared Allen is better than Reggie White. Talk about comments worthy of “Asshat of the day”.

  53. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 5:06 PM

    jeff says:
    December 4, 2009 2:25 PM
    Again with no links or anything to back you up?
    If we are calling me out for “supposed” no proof, then let’s all be held to that standard huh?
    Choosing 4 years had nothing to do with your little “formula” not working out in your favor huh?
    How bout your team makes the playoffs 1st before you start setting up your scenarios?
    Or, do you have the only “working’ crystal ball?
    Wait, you clarify your statements all the time, so as to never be proved wrong, right?
    I’m thinking of giving you the asshat of the week just for being so wishy washy.
    —————————-
    Here’s another sterling example from jeff/fagnar/chickenshit.. Take someone else’s research, try to bash it, make insults, but never offer any real substance of your own.
    Well done, Fagnar.

  54. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 5:07 PM

    @ Ruvell – I’m not wealthy,comfortable. Tiger is wealthy. Dude,my rants are what PFT is all about. If everyone came across with boring Walter Cronkite type stats, this place would go belly up in no time. Hell,Florio tries to be a joker,he knows the game.
    Enjoy a few Kabukis and an Imperial Dinner for me, I got a date. Relax about the wife crack,not my style.

  55. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 5:09 PM

    jeff says:
    December 4, 2009 4:23 PM
    Pervy:
    daily/ weekly asshat awards on Peterson fumbling thread.
    —————————–
    Sounds like a logical place for them. I just never thought you’d name Peterson an asshat. Maybe idiots can be taught..

  56. Ambrose says: Dec 4, 2009 5:11 PM

    Hey Chickenhead…is that your real name? Jeff Chickenhead? You aren’t fooling anybody. Nice try.

  57. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 5:29 PM

    @ Shitterson- Like I follow ancient Pack history?? Big deal. Yep,Jared Allen is well ahead of him.Remember,we were talking the 96 season,where Reggie had 8.5 sacks correct?? Allen has 10.5 and is every bit disruptive ,more so most likely. White was on the down slide and you know it! He had one more good sack season a couple of years later,then out.
    Ambrose? Is it GroundHogs Day already!!??

  58. MinneapolisResident says: Dec 4, 2009 5:39 PM

    Gotta give you credit for your entertaining banter, Perv. It’s a breathe of fresh air.
    I hate mushrooms and am not a big fan of liver. But the chicken, mushroom and onion appetizer is maybe the greatest thing ever cooked. Swear to God.

  59. MinneapolisResident says: Dec 4, 2009 5:42 PM

    On a football related note, Vikes fans, try to give credit where credit is due. There is no corner playing better football right now than Charles Woodson. I give Winfield credit for being the best run-support corner in the league as a Packer fan.

  60. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 5:58 PM

    PervyHarvin says:
    December 4, 2009 5:29 PM
    @ Shitterson- Like I follow ancient Pack history?? Big deal. Yep,Jared Allen is well ahead of him.Remember,we were talking the 96 season,where Reggie had 8.5 sacks correct?? Allen has 10.5 and is every bit disruptive ,more so most likely. White was on the down slide and you know it! He had one more good sack season a couple of years later,then out.
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    You don’t follow ancient Packers history? That much was clear. But don’t try to proclaim this Vikings team–which has yet to beat a good team–better than a Super Bowl winning team. That’s what it was all about. You tried to compare the ’96 Packers to the ’09 Vikings position-by-position, which is always stupid. And now you admit you don’t even know one of the teams you were comparing. Congratulations, you’ve admitted your pathetic comparison wasn’t worth the time it took to read it. And Chickenshit said it was “well thought out”. I couldn’t stop laughing at that post.
    Allen’s better than Reggie.. Because being a DE is all about sacks, right? That’s all that matters, right? Reggie White was the most dominant defensive player of his time. Bar none. Reggie had 3 sacks in the Super Bowl that season. Yeah, he was all washed up.
    Go to your room. I’m through with you.

  61. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 6:00 PM

    Ambrose says:
    December 4, 2009 5:11 PM
    Hey Chickenhead…is that your real name? Jeff Chickenhead? You aren’t fooling anybody. Nice try.
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    And it was Fagnarthehorrible before that. All new names. No new thoughts.

  62. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 6:31 PM

    Adam-Chris Scheftersen says:
    December 4, 2009 5:58 PM
    Go to your room. I’m through with you
    ===================================
    I bet the last time you muttered those words was right before Chris Hanson and crew came chasing after you. Was that “To Catch a Predator I or II?”

  63. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 6:33 PM

    MinneapolisResident- Woodson is good. Just not the best cover guy. He does many things good though. Right,Twon is a tackling beast,need him back.

  64. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 4, 2009 6:41 PM

    PervyHarvin says:
    GREEN BAY — A study released today by the University of Wisconsin-Stout’s Department of Sports Psychology shows that the “cheesehead” hats, worn most notably by Green Bay Packer fans are “not primarily, as previously thought, an ensign of team loyalty but rather an affordable form of head insulation.”
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    This isn’t news.. Why do you think we wear those fugly things? They aren’t exactly fashionable.. It’s all about the insulation.
    Could be worse though.. we could all paint our faces gay-rights purple and wear fake blond braids.. That would be REALLY bad.
    Adam-Chris Scheftersen (which isn’t HIS original name either) says:
    All new names. No new thoughts.
    ___________________________________
    Uh huh.

  65. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 4, 2009 7:17 PM

    PervyHarvin says:
    December 4, 2009 6:31 PM
    I bet the last time you muttered those words was right before Chris Hanson and crew came chasing after you. Was that “To Catch a Predator I or II?”
    —————————-
    Got nothing to say about facts because you don’t have a leg to stand on. So you make cracks about pedofiles. Par for the course. You want to continue down the path towards convincing anyone that Jared Allen is better than Reggie White–or that LeRoy Butler was a corner–I’ll be here.

  66. PervyHarvin says: Dec 4, 2009 7:43 PM

    Adam- I’m not jeff. He loves to argue those things with you and hey,that’s great.I’m a different animal. White is better than Allen so far based on volume of work right? Sure we agree.Reggie had his career,Allen is still in his. If Allen goes 15 years like white he should be in the 190 sack range if you give him 6 more this year. Thats only assuming he gets 13 a year avg. These are rough numbers,but very close I believe.Not going to start calculating.Allen will triple his forced fumbles,be a couple hundred taclkes behind. Yu love to do the math,tell me how far off my great fotball mind is off?

  67. Tompadre says: Dec 5, 2009 6:35 AM

    Super –
    The use of 4 years because it’s the average amount of time each player on the 32 teams 53 man roster will spend in the league is a little arbritrary. The average is affected by the bottom 10% of the roster; guys who spend a year or two in the league before they are gone. Plus, one quarter of the teams haven’t even played a playoff game in the last four years, so their rosters (often filled with young talent because they’re in rebuilding mode) affects the league average but not neccessarily the playoff average experience. In fact, about 60-65% of the starters (those who most affect a game) for last years playoff teams had more than four years experience.
    Since you are into percentages, probabilities and historicals, I thought you might find this interesting and perhaps pertinent.
    Of the nine teams, over the last four playoffs, who lost after their bye, five of them did not make the playoffs the previous year. Of the nine teams you mentioned over the last four years, who had road victories during the divisional playoffs, only two were not in the playoffs the previous year and still beat a team that was in the playoffs the year before. It looks like experience has more to do with visiting teams winning than anything else, along with a few teams (Ari, Phil in 08 & NYG in 07) catching fire at the right time.
    Just more food for thought.

  68. Tompadre says: Dec 5, 2009 6:47 AM

    Adam Chris –
    Were you and Pervy discussing which team was better, or were you referring to the Favre comment of most talented between the 96 Pack and 09 Vikings?
    If you were talking about the most talented, I posted on a previous thread (I have no idea which one now) the stats of the players involved. Since everyone seems to want to use stats as their guideline for judging performance & value, I can dig it up again. You might be surprised at the outcome.
    If you were talking about the which team’s better, then we have to wait this year out, because right now the ring on the fingers of the 96 Pack team is the trump card…for now.

  69. Supersuckers says: Dec 5, 2009 12:58 PM

    Tompadre,
    Good points. But you may be digging too deep. A tendency is a tendency. And I agree with you that it is absolutely moronic to even discuss who is better between a chamionship winning team and one that is in first place of their division 2/3 of the way through a season with Decenber football (the most important) coming. Blows my mind. especially when the non title winning team being compared is led by a QB that has proven to be a epic failure (speaking of tendencies) starting right about Sunday. Now I am not saying the same is going to happen this year. They may somehow beat the jinxes and the Saints and then go on to beat the AFC’s best for their very first pro football championship in their looooong painful existence. But…yeah….not seeing it happen. but I dont know so…they might

  70. Tompadre says: Dec 5, 2009 5:36 PM

    Super =
    That’s why you won’t catch me talking about the playoff much less the Super Bowl, as it relates to the Vikings, unless they are in them. I’m enjoying the season and root for them to break whatever hex (did the Cub fan with the goat get turned away from a Viking game as well?) that has tormented my team for it’s entire existence.

  71. Route36West says: Dec 6, 2009 1:52 PM

    See what did I say Akers will get this award and Eagles fans and the front office will think he’s back to how he use to be 4 years ago but they will be wrong and he will continue to lose games for the Eagles.
    So the Eagles are up 10 nothing against the Falcons and Leonard Weaver made a spectacular 1 handed catch for 50 yards and after a Stop by the Falcons the Eagles set up for a 39 yard field goal. I bet you can guess what happens next. Yes your right Akers misses wide left and it wasnt even close.
    So now we give the Ball back to the Falcons with good field position. Redman is starting to get comfortable against the Eagles defense. They can not let the Falcons come up for air because they are still a dangerous team and can hurt the Eagles.
    The Eagles got a stop but the Falcons punted the ball inside the 5. Akers better hope nothing happens on offense and pray Donovan bails him out.

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