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Brees still tops our MVP list

With the Saints somehow finding a way to stay undefeated and quarterback Drew Brees continuing to have a passer rating higher than Adrian Peterson’s top cruising speed, Brees remains, in our estimation, the current favorite for league MVP.

Here’s our weekly look at our own list of the five most valuable players in the league.

1.  Brees:  He said last week that going undefeated is within the team’s grasp.  Winning the last four games of the regular season is a far simpler proposition than erasing a 10-point deficit three different times against the Redskins, and somehow having the chip shot that would have delivered a fourth 10-point deficit sail wide.

2.  Peyton Manning, Colts:  On Sunday, Manning and his teammates defeated a better team in more convincing fashion.  But his numbers slightly trail Brees (with the exception of passing yardage), and the apparent intention by coach Jim Caldwell to treat all post-clinch games like a late-season preseason will cause the gap to grow.

3.  Brett Favre, Vikings:  In most other years, a random bad game won’t derail a guy’s shot at the MVP award.  In 1995, when Favre won his first, he had three multi-interception games, including passer ratings of 46.1, 60.6, and 62.5.  In ’96, when he won MVP No. 2, Favre had three games with two picks.  In ’97, when he shared No. 3 with Barry Sanders, Favre had four games with two or more interceptions.  Still, given the unprecedentedly strong field of candidates in 2009, one bad game can kill a candidacy.  For Favre, Sunday night’s two-pick showing against the Cardinals might have prevented him from landing in the top spot on enough of the 50 Associated Press ballots.

4.  Chris Johnson, Titans:  Even though Tennessee’s five-game winning streak ended, Johnson quietly added 113 yards to his total for the season.  It gives him 1,509 with four games to play, and it still keeps him on pace for 2,000 — and within striking distance of 2,105.

5.   Charles Woodson, Packers:  If Ndomakong Suh can finagle a trip to New York for the Heisman ceremony, then the only defensive player to ever win the thing deserves consideration for the NFL’s MVP award.  Woodson already has been named the NFC defensive player of the month twice this year, and he arguably sealed last night’s win with a knifing lunge at Willis McGahee, which required us to inspect the replay for evidence that Woodson had a red cape tucked under his green jersey.

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39 Responses to “Brees still tops our MVP list”
  1. bluestree says: Dec 8, 2009 8:44 AM

    Wood! Future HOF’er and a classy person! He’s a throwback for sure, and best described not as a corner or db but as a FOOTBALL PLAYER!

  2. Larry David says: Dec 8, 2009 8:47 AM

    Mark Brunnell led Saints against the Jim Sorgi led Colts=Saints win=Peyton is the MVP.

  3. Pack83 says: Dec 8, 2009 8:49 AM

    AARON RODGERS
    Woodson on their is nice, but he is not a legitimate MVP candidate. He’s just having a Pro Bowl/Defensive MVP season. Isn’t that enough? And what game were you watching Florio, Flacco’s INTs sealed that game. Chris Johnson is having a nice season, but get him out of there, they’re 5-7. I know you’re trying to be different with 4 and 5, but stop it.
    If the Pack win and the Vikes lose this week, maybe then people will recognize that Rodgers is a Top 3-5 MVP candidate. Numbers are basically the same as Favre, with 200+ more yards passing and 300+ more yards rushing. Recognize!!
    My thing with the Vikes is this: Between Brees, Manning, Favre and Rodgers, which is the most likely team to still have a winning record if they got hurt in Game 1? The answer: Vikings. They’ve played 2 winning teams all season. Jackson/Sage would still have that 7+ wins with AP and their defense. You think Jim Sorgi would have the Colts at 7 wins? You think Mark Brunell would have the Saints at 7 wins? You think MATT FLYNN would have the Packers at 7 wins?
    1. Brees
    1A. Manning
    3. Rodgers
    4. Rivers
    5. Favre

  4. blyons04 says: Dec 8, 2009 8:52 AM

    Charles Woodson’s stop on McGahee has to be the play of the year for the pack. I watched that play over and over and couldn’t get enough of it. Woodson is definately the Defensive POY by a long shot. I wish we had a guy with half his skill, determination, and instinct on the other side of the field.

  5. PervyHarvin says: Dec 8, 2009 8:55 AM

    Brees,Manning or Favre. The other two shouldn’t be on the list. No chance for them.

  6. B Eazy says: Dec 8, 2009 8:58 AM

    Everyone realize this.
    If peyton manning does not have another multiple inerception game he will be the MVP.
    Two reasons why
    1. He deserves it and is the best QB in the NFL and some how gets better every year.
    2. The NFL loves Peyton Manning. The only reason some of you dont is cause he makes your D look silly.
    THE GENERAL will win his 2nd super bowl as well. Our only competition is the Bolts. That game comes down to special teams and which way the ball bounces.

  7. Red says: Dec 8, 2009 9:00 AM

    No love for Rivers and his frighteningly consistent domination?

  8. Empire Jones says: Dec 8, 2009 9:05 AM

    Yes, I ama Chargers fan but I would put my hat in for Philip Rivers.
    Guy has no running game whatsoever, a questionable D for a good part of the season, lost his PB center and both tackles have missed games.
    Even when down 28-0 to Pitt he clawed back to score 4 TDs in the 4th Q in Pittsburgh.
    Top 5 in every catergory. Second place AFC team and a team every expert has picked to upend the COlts in the post season.
    Where is the love? I know where the hate is, but where is the love?

  9. Larry David says: Dec 8, 2009 9:09 AM

    Mark Brunnell led Saints against the Jim Sorgi led Colts=Saints win=Peyton is the MVP.

  10. FavreHasAVagina says: Dec 8, 2009 9:09 AM

    Chris Johnson doesn’t deserve to be on list, PervyHomo? Chris Johnson is by FAR the best RB in the league. He makes AP look like a bitch who fumbles the football more than you fumble nutzzz. You are an idiot.

  11. Guess Who says: Dec 8, 2009 9:23 AM

    Steven Jackson’s name has to be considered for MVP. Yes, I said Steven Jackson. Put aside the fact that he plays for one of the worse teams in the league. The numbers he is putting up in spite of his surroundings and the fact that he has put his team in position to win more games than they have should at least be enough to get his name in the mix. People typically state the obvious, but Jackson is truly an MVP-worthy candidate.

  12. straverse says: Dec 8, 2009 9:31 AM

    Charles Woodson has been ridiculously good this year. That tackle last night was amazing.

  13. Favre On HGH says: Dec 8, 2009 9:43 AM

    Forgot Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers – Rodgers has better stats than Favre on a worse team.

  14. green&bold says: Dec 8, 2009 9:51 AM

    Peyton Manning is in a class by himself imo. His contribution to the colts can’t be measured. They’d probably be a 5 win team otherwise. Brees and Chris Johnson are 2 and 3.

  15. apopnotasoda says: Dec 8, 2009 10:00 AM

    Manning has has many games w/o an int than Favre does with one. Just saying

  16. Colt's McCoy says: Dec 8, 2009 10:16 AM

    Brees should get it. No one expected the Saints to be this good. The Colts do this every year, it is almost a given. Not to take anything away from Manning because when it is all said and done he will probably go down as the greatest QB of all time.

  17. RaiderfanNY says: Dec 8, 2009 11:11 AM

    Here’s the thing about Woodson: I saw every game he played for the Raiders and he was not a great player for them. At times, he was very good (especially against the run).
    At times, he was barely better than average. He was regularly beaten on simple slants on third downs and was constantly flagged on deep passes. He made almost no big plays during his Raider tenure (one exception being the “tuck rule” fumble).
    So how did he turn into Superman in Green Bay? Ever since he got there, he’s been the Charles Woodson we saw at Michigan. I kept waiting to see that Charles Woodson in silver and black, but he never appeared.

  18. stairway27 says: Dec 8, 2009 11:14 AM

    Empire Jones says: December 8, 2009 9:05 AM
    Yes, I ama Chargers fan but I would put my hat in for Philip Rivers.
    Guy has no running game whatsoever, a questionable D for a good part of the season, lost his PB center and both tackles have missed games.
    Even when down 28-0 to Pitt he clawed back to score 4 TDs in the 4th Q in Pittsburgh.
    ********************************************************
    Although I agree with you that Rivers should be on this list, I wouldn’t use what he did against Pittsburgh in your argument. Bruce Gradkowski (spelling?) did the same thing, and won! I’m a Steeler fan, but I must admit, I think Ryan Leaf on drugs could cut through their secondary like a razorblade through a line of cocaine.

  19. Majik Man says: Dec 8, 2009 11:22 AM

    For the Rodgers supporters, he may put up nice stats, but an MVP doesn’t get sacked 45 times in 12 games.

  20. Deb says: Dec 8, 2009 11:39 AM

    Don’t like Chris Johnson, but if he breaks Dickerson’s record, he is the MVP. How long has that record stood? Enough said.
    Otherwise, Brees and Manning are too close to call. If one goes undefeated, that’s your tiebreaker.
    As for Woodson, he should be in the discussion for defensive MVP–not league MVP. Suh has nothing to do with this.

  21. NFL_1974 says: Dec 8, 2009 11:43 AM

    I dont agrre….Take Bress off that team, and its still good…Maybe not undefeated, but close. Take Manning off the Colts, they are a 500 team at best. Im suprised people havent put Brady in the mix. I mean hes taken a team that Cassell took to 11-5 and kept the same pace. Yeah, Brady is awesome.

  22. danlinker says: Dec 8, 2009 12:10 PM

    All these names and no one puts Warner at least in the top 5 or 6. BS.

  23. Facts Domino says: Dec 8, 2009 12:23 PM

    The MVP talk starts and stops with Peyton Manning.
    Any other discussion is for 2nd place.
    Oh and the Colts at .500 without Manning, is a gift of about 5-6 games.

  24. SureThing says: Dec 8, 2009 12:24 PM

    They should have a new awared for Favvre… like the Seniors MVP or something. I don’t think he’s that impressive when you take out the age factor. I don’t get to watch him much but I did see the AARP Bowl Sunday night and was not at all impressed.

  25. pkrlvr says: Dec 8, 2009 12:39 PM

    Rodgers is still a stat whore. He hasn’t put up the wins. 14-14 as a starter doesn’t cut it. Still a good player, but he takes the sack rather than the incompletion…..gotta get past that and take his team to the playoffs to be in the top 3. Maybe next year though.
    My vote is for Favre. Sure he threw two picks Sunday, bfd…it happens. Specially when you’re playing from behind with no run game. Still 26 td’s to 5 Ints (2 of which weren’t his fault) is nuts! To be 40 years old (I bet most of you have no clue what that feels like) and doing it is even crazier. New team, new receivers, and yet he was the top rated QB in the league going into Sunday’s game. Best td to int ratio in the history of football on top of it. If you can’t give it up for him…ahem…pack83….you’re just blinded by bitterness.
    However, I think Brees will ultimately get it with his crazy numbers.

  26. Whiskeytangofoxtrot says: Dec 8, 2009 12:41 PM

    Kurt Warner deserves mention. With him, the Cards are SB contenders again this year. Without him, they are just another team. He’s quietly having another huge year, as the country got a glimpse of Sunday night.

  27. Facts Domino says: Dec 8, 2009 1:01 PM

    Warner isn’t in the conversation. If they gave Leinart the same game plan, he too would have impressive games and some horrible ones just as Warner does.
    Certainly not the standards of an MVP and there is no doubt in my mind that Leinart doesn’t take that team the playoffs the past two years, if they give him the same game plan and when the overrated one does finally retire, that will be proven if Matt and the rest of the cogs are still in Arizona.

  28. ACDC84 says: Dec 8, 2009 1:09 PM

    “For the Rodgers supporters, he may put up nice stats, but an MVP doesn’t get sacked 45 times in 12 games.”
    While I agree that Rodgers shouldn’t be ahead of Brees, Manning, or Favre in the MVP race, the fact that he has done what he has DESPITE getting sacked 45 times should only strengthen any arguement he has.

  29. packers4life says: Dec 8, 2009 1:11 PM

    “Rodgers is still a stat whore. He hasn’t put up the wins. 14-14 as a starter doesn’t cut it. Still a good player, but he takes the sack rather than the incompletion…..gotta get past that and take his team to the playoffs to be in the top 3. Maybe next year though.”
    Only Viking fans determine how good a QB is by their record. In case you haven’t noticed Rodgers has just has good as stats Favre so if Favre can be up there, Rodgers sure as hell can be also. By the way, if you want to keep comparing wins, Rodgers has 8 this season including 4 in a row.

  30. Packer_SanDiego says: Dec 8, 2009 2:53 PM

    Let me get this straight. Favre has his first multi-interception game and now he’s downgraded. Manning had THREE STRAIGHT multi-interception game and has 5 more total than Favre and he’s not?
    Oh, and don’t look now, but Peyton Manning has the second rated scoring defense backing him up (and that has certainly saved his bacon this year). Brees has a middling 16th rated scoring defense. To me that trumps the better running game that Brees has behind him (also due to the fact that the Colts seem perfectly content to ignore their running game).
    To me, despite hoping Favre wins it, it’s Brees hands down, at least right now. But, since the perception is that Manning doesn’t have any support, he’ll probably win it.
    Oh, and as for how many games the Colts would win without him? Sure, they’d win far fewer with Sorgi as the QB. But, every team would win far fewer with Sorgi as backup. And I’m a Wisconsin fan.

  31. Packer_SanDiego says: Dec 8, 2009 2:57 PM

    Regarding Aaron Rodgers, he certainly deserves to be in the discussion for MVP. The comment about the sacks being an argument FOR him being MVP NOT against is correct. He was absolutely swallowed up earlier in the season. He certainly could have thrown the ball away in many cases, but mostly he was just getting hammered because the O-line couldn’t stop anyone.
    But the whole offense is playing much, much better now. That starts with play calling, which was atrocious earlier in the year. Now that the Packers are playing the kind of game they should be, Aaron Rodgers is playing as well as anyone in the league.
    Last year, Peyton Manning got the MVP solely due to improvement after a horrible start (Rivers was hands down the MVP last year). So, why shouldn’t Rodgers be considered after a weekly reshuffling of the O-line earlier this year followed by drastically improved play? His numbers are as good as or better than Manning’s, depending on how you define success.

  32. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Dec 8, 2009 3:34 PM

    RaiderfanNY says: December 8, 2009 11:11 AM
    Here’s the thing about Woodson: I saw every game he played for the Raiders and he was not a great player for them. At times, he was very good (especially against the run).
    At times, he was barely better than average. He was regularly beaten on simple slants on third downs and was constantly flagged on deep passes. He made almost no big plays during his Raider tenure (one exception being the “tuck rule” fumble).
    So how did he turn into Superman in Green Bay? Ever since he got there, he’s been the Charles Woodson we saw at Michigan. I kept waiting to see that Charles Woodson in silver and black, but he never appeared.
    —————————-
    The same reason Randy Moss became good again. He left that festering rotten hell hole that is the Raiders organization. A place where players go to die…or at least have their career die. The league owners should be able to vote to remove the senile Al Davis as their GM and make the Raiders respectable again. Even if that happened tomorrow, it would still take 10 years with all of those wasted busts they’ve drafted.

  33. Bob Nelson says: Dec 8, 2009 4:15 PM

    I think Woodson is most deserving. Huge turnovers and big plays every week for the league’s #1 defense.
    Brees not so much so. The Saints have a good team and if Mark Brunell had to play they would be fine.
    Favre has good stats and the vikings would have a losing record without him.
    Aaron Rodgers is honorable mention as a Pro Bowler. He is better than Warner and Eli.

  34. The Hormel Row of Fame says: Dec 8, 2009 4:41 PM

    pkrlvr says:
    December 8, 2009 12:39 PM
    “Rodgers is still a stat whore. He hasn’t put up the wins. 14-14 as a starter doesn’t cut it. Still a good player, but he takes the sack rather than the incompletion…..gotta get past that and take his team to the playoffs to be in the top 3. Maybe next year though.”
    In response:
    packers4life says:
    December 8, 2009 1:11 PM
    Only Viking fans determine how good a QB is by their record. In case you haven’t noticed Rodgers has just has good as stats Favre so if Favre can be up there, Rodgers sure as hell can be also. By the way, if you want to keep comparing wins, Rodgers has 8 this season including 4 in a row.
    ————————————————
    What did I miss here? Idiotic response, as expected.

  35. SF Saints Fan says: Dec 8, 2009 5:41 PM

    Bob Nelson:
    “Brees not so much so. The Saints have a good team and if Mark Brunell had to play they would be fine.”
    You nuts or something!
    The Saints would have maybe four or five wins tops without Brees.

  36. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 8, 2009 5:50 PM

    pkrlvr says:
    December 8, 2009 12:39 PM
    Rodgers is still a stat whore. He hasn’t put up the wins. 14-14 as a starter doesn’t cut it. Still a good player, but he takes the sack rather than the incompletion…..gotta get past that and take his team to the playoffs to be in the top 3. Maybe next year though.
    My vote is for Favre. Sure he threw two picks Sunday, bfd…it happens. Specially when you’re playing from behind with no run game. Still 26 td’s to 5 Ints (2 of which weren’t his fault) is nuts! To be 40 years old (I bet most of you have no clue what that feels like) and doing it is even crazier. New team, new receivers, and yet he was the top rated QB in the league going into Sunday’s game. Best td to int ratio in the history of football on top of it. If you can’t give it up for him…ahem…pack83….you’re just blinded by bitterness.
    However, I think Brees will ultimately get it with his crazy numbers.
    ————————–
    Most of this post is irrelevant to an individual season-end award. 14-14 record? This season? Wow, how has Rodgers played 16 more games than everyone else?
    40 years old, new team, new receivers, etc.. None of that matters, and it’s all his doing anyway. If he didn’t want to be throwing to new receivers he could’ve stayed in Green Bay. Or New York.

  37. jx4cmario1 says: Dec 9, 2009 12:08 AM

    Adam you are the biggest moron on this site, hands down.

  38. badfish69 says: Dec 9, 2009 1:39 PM

    The Vikings would have a losing record wiothout Favre? WTF!! This is the same team basically that won 10 games with freakin’ Gus Ferrotte last year. They would be a 10 win team this year regardless of who played QB. That being said he is still three on my list.
    1. Manning
    2. Brees
    3. Favre
    4. Warner
    5. Rodgers
    I love Chris Johnson, but barring them making the playoffs, I don’t think even 2000 yds would get him over the list above.
    Woodson = AWESOME, but not MVP.

  39. FLPackerBacker says: Dec 10, 2009 12:17 PM

    The Saints defense have a ton of ballhawks, but if they don’t get a turnover, you can bet they’re giving up points. Colts have a very good “bend but don’t break” defense. They’re quietly one of the best units in football. Now, I don’t think Sorgi would have Indy undefeated, but I do think a decent QB on that Colts team leaves them 9-3 or 8-4.
    Without Brees the Saints would simply be nowhere near where they are now. He’s chucking balls all over the place and leading ridiculous comebacks (Washington, Miami). He spreads the ball out to everyone on his offense and doesn’t even have one go-to guy like Manning does with Wayne.
    It’s Brees in a landslide in my opinion. I think you go Johnson (he IS the Titans offense), Warner, Favre and Woodson after that. Warner gets no spotlight because he’s in Arizona and he’s Kurt Warner. But the dude blew away Favre last week and has had a very productive season despite missing a game. Favre, I hate to say it, has played very well but that offense has a ton of weapons. Waiting for the December slide.
    Woodson is the heart and soul of the #1 defense in the NFL. When Harris went down I was sure the Pack was screwed. But Chuck has gone balls out the last few weeks making incredible plays and inspiring the D. And sure enough, guys like Matthews are stepping up and following his lead.

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