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Packers hold off Ravens in sloppy affair

With seven turnovers and 310 record-tying penalty yards, Monday night’s Packers-Ravens game wasn’t a visual masterpiece.

But the Packers will happily take the result. 

Green Bay’s 27-14 win highlighted the Packers’ emerging defense and Baltimore’s struggling young quarterback.  Joe Flacco and the team’s entire aerial attack hasn’t been the same since the team’s bye week.

Flacco was picked off three times, including twice in the fourth quarter.  He threw for 3.8 yards-per-attempt, a JaMarcusian number. (Although he did rack up pass interference calls by throwing at Tramon Williams.)

The Ravens have problem areas sprouting up all over the place, but remain in playoff contention at
6-6.  Baltimore’s schedule includes home games against the Lions and Bears before a trip to Pittsburgh. There is also a growing chance a seven loss team can sneak in the AFC tournament.

The Packers are hoping they don’t have sneak into anything.  Aaron Rodgers played another solid game, completing 26-of-40 passes for 263 yards, three touchdowns, and two picks. (One interception bounced off Donald Driver’s leg.)

Rodgers helped answer a 14-point flurry by Baltimore with two good drives, the second culminating in tight end Jermichael Finley’s second touchdown.

Rodgers and the peaking Packers defense makes for a dangerous 8-4 team.  A challenging four-game slate remains, but it looks like the Packers, Cowboys, Eagles, and Giants are fighting for three playoff spots.

And the NFC East teams will continue to beat each other up.

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54 Responses to “Packers hold off Ravens in sloppy affair”
  1. Love_Boat_Scandal says: Dec 8, 2009 12:48 AM

    Rodgers > Favre.

  2. FavreHasAVagina says: Dec 8, 2009 12:52 AM

    Sloppy sloppy win, but you’re right Florio-we’ll take it.

  3. JaggedMark says: Dec 8, 2009 12:58 AM

    Charles Woodson is the best defensive player in the league this year.
    Completely locks down 1/2 the defensive backfield.
    Strips, Int’s, fumble recoveries.
    All while they try to stay away from him.

  4. heysharpshooter says: Dec 8, 2009 12:59 AM

    The Packers are a dangerous football team. And freaking Clay Mathews is a beast. Did you see him stand up Gaither, more than once, to stuff Ray Rice? Gaither is 6’9 350! And Mathews looked like he was tossing him around for most of the game.

  5. Mactator says: Dec 8, 2009 1:07 AM

    We’ll take it for sure!
    BTW, for all you TT and MM haters out there, who brought in those key players who made the big plays throughout that game?
    TT should be credited. He’s a very good GM and I’m glade we have him. As for MM, once he cleans up the penalties, I’ll tip him my hat!

  6. PossibleCabbage says: Dec 8, 2009 1:08 AM

    The NFL really needs to do something about the current interpretation of the pass interference rules. It is no worse for the game to have the Patriots defensive backs able to shut down the Colts aerial assault by mugging the receivers, than to have offenses being able to consistently move the ball down the field by just hucking the ball up in the direction of a covered receiver and waiting for the yellow handkerchief. Neither really makes the game fun to watch, but there has to be some happy medium.
    There were some really, really questionable PI calls in this game (going both ways), and the NFL really ought to clarify in the offseason about reasonable contact downfield between defensive backs and receivers.

  7. Bob S. says: Dec 8, 2009 1:17 AM

    The Ravens have problem areas sprouting up all over the place, but remain in playoff contention at 6-6. Baltimore’s schedule includes home games against the Lions and Bears before a trip to Pittsburgh. There is also a growing chance a seven loss team can sneak in the AFC tournament.

    maybe one wildcard that’s all with about 5 or 6 teams involved in that tiebreaker.
    this is assuming denver wins 2 of the last 4 and they have 2 home games left with oak and kc and san diego also wins 2 of their last 4.
    baltimore is as good as done unless they win all of their last 4, as jacksonville has a far superior afc record than them.

  8. gbbrady10 says: Dec 8, 2009 1:24 AM

    NFC Playoff Picture:
    1. New Orleans
    2. Minnesota
    3. Philadelphia
    4. Arizona
    5. Green Bay
    6. NY Giants
    Packers beat the Cardinals, for the second week in a row, in Arizona and head to Minnesota after the Giants upset the Eagles in Philly to atone for their loss this weekend. Green Bay may have lost the battles in the regular season but will win the war against Favre before coming up short in the NFC Championship game against the Saints. What happens in the AFC is all elementary as the Colts will represent the conference in the Super Bowl, marking the first time in history two undefeated teams meet for the Vince Lombardi trophy. The Packers @ Minny Divisional Round matchup is the most watched non-Super Bowl game in NFL history. Super Bowl XLIV is the most watched event in television history. The NFL shows once again why it’s the best league in the world…Oh yeah, Indy wins 35-33.

  9. Bob S. says: Dec 8, 2009 1:28 AM

    Re: “the peaking Packers defense makes for a dangerous 8-4 team”

    Was that what happened Monday night? Or was it the flunkie Cam Cameron’s run offense that has gone bad?
    Ravens had scored a grand total of 58 points their last 4 games or about 14 points per game. And of that total one TD or half their TDs that day and in another game all 15 of their points were scored on FGs. Sounds more like Ravens Cameron offense did just as they do against anyone.

  10. Debacled says: Dec 8, 2009 1:29 AM

    Florio, your use of “Sloppy Affair” had me thinking this story would cover Tiger Woods’ recent escapades.

  11. nerd says: Dec 8, 2009 1:35 AM

    Clay Mathews is rookie of the year, hands down.
    The Pack has the Oline stabilized. If that holds up, we can be dangerous.
    Props to Jermicheal Finley too. Dude should get some Pro Bowl votes.

  12. Bmore Styles says: Dec 8, 2009 1:49 AM

    Finally, the whole world got to see the bad calls and non-calls that have been going against the Ravens for years.
    But in the end, we had a good chance, and for the 2nd time in 3 weeks Flacco threw a horrible game clinching INT inside the 10 yard line. The Defense held up their end of the deal by forcing some turnovers to put us into position to win, but Flacco lost it. Any casual fan knows that you can’t loft the ball up cross field without it getting picked. Incredibly stupid move, Joe.

  13. Bob S. says: Dec 8, 2009 1:52 AM

    Gruden said, “in the cold it’s hard for players to hang on to the ball.”
    Same goes for the refs and those yellow flags.

  14. wrath4771 says: Dec 8, 2009 1:55 AM

    I like the Packers chances against Chicago and Seattle, but Pittsburgh and Arizona will be tough ones.

  15. Larry David says: Dec 8, 2009 2:12 AM

    The Ravens would be better with Troy Smith.

  16. Trolltoll says: Dec 8, 2009 3:20 AM

    Got to love spoiled, butt hurt Packer fans. The player who put Green Bay on the map got forcefully kicked out of the team he led to 13-3 and almost to the Superbowl and you hill billies hate on him. Take pride for not being a dead franchise, take pride in the person who turned your franchise into consecutive playoff team. Take pride in having a Hall of Fame Quarterback for 15 years- a Quarterback who holds a dozen records, 3 consecutive MVP awards, Superbowl wins and Superbowl visits— A quarterback noted to be the top 3 of all time.

  17. Raven's Fan says: Dec 8, 2009 3:29 AM

    This was such bull$hit, the refs gave this game to the FudgePackers, the Ravens were clearly the best team out there last night and remain the best team in the AFC by far.

  18. Raider Pride says: Dec 8, 2009 3:32 AM

    FavreHasAVagina says:
    December 8, 2009 12:52 AM
    Sloppy sloppy win, but you’re right FLORIO-we’ll take it.
    ———————————————–
    Greg:
    Please introduce your self to: FavreHasAVagina.
    Not only is his sign in/moniker on PFT name disgusting and 15 year oldish…. But he does not have a freaking clue what he is reading… Or who wrote it.
    What gentleman above the age of 15 would choose the Vagina as part of a sign in/moniker?
    Heck… Then again… I reckon all Ted Bundy’s have to start some where… And today it must be on “Internet Forums.”
    Back to the POINT….. The Packers and Ravens.
    This was one hell of an assessment of this game.
    You nailed it. Right on the head. This is the capsulation of an NFL game I come to expect from logging on to PFT
    This is the PFT I know and love.
    Well done Mr. Rosenthal

  19. Fed up says: Dec 8, 2009 4:53 AM

    Loved watching the Packers pluck the Ratbirds. Flacco sucks. Ha!

  20. Tompadre says: Dec 8, 2009 5:07 AM

    Sloppy or not it was a good win by the Pack. Their defense though seems to depend on the turnover an awful lot, just as the Vikings depend on the play of their front line. Relying on turnovers is not exactly reliable come playoff time.

  21. Fan_Of_ Four says: Dec 8, 2009 5:58 AM

    Yup, the Packers looked like a contender out there. ROFLMAO
    The Ravens played like Lions in defeat, the Detroit Lions that is.

  22. Bayern says: Dec 8, 2009 6:04 AM

    Raven’sFan: Dream on, we beat your ass twice, and you got yours handed again last night. Who Dey!

  23. OmegaXxXNFL says: Dec 8, 2009 6:20 AM

    Vikes cant beat a good team, too bad they cant play the Browns, Lions and Seattle all through the playoffs ha there Heidi strokers- so Butt Favor can ride off into the sunset with his mouth full of chaw, (1/2 Chaw 1/2 Childress pubes)..

  24. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 8, 2009 6:33 AM

    That was by far the most entertaining penalty-fest I’ve ever seen. Horrible, sloppy play by both teams. A win is a win, and we’ll take it, but Mac SERIOUSLY needs to get this cleaned up. We have good teams left on our schedule, teams that aren’t starting Frank freakin’ Walker in the secondary.
    Clay Matthews is the real deal. What a dominating performance from him and Woodson. Williams did a great job filling in for Harris, and by that I mean he got alternately burned and flagged all game. He may have even been burned less in fact.
    To all the Supersuck aliases and Viking trolls who want to defend TT: if the Tampa loss wasn’t his fault, neither is this win. You can’t have it both ways. Let’s hope we keep winning, and fire him anyway. On to next week.

  25. BengalsDouche2 says: Dec 8, 2009 6:38 AM

    The Ravens the best team in the AFC? Are you kidding me? Talk about a homer comment right there. Please wake up and realize the Ravens are going nowhere fast this season. They’re done. And I’m not even going to point out the fact that we beat you twice..oh wait. That slipped. Anyway, wake up and smell the c*ck in front of your face RavensFan. Your season is over. Go ahead and get ready to watch us in the playoffs while Ray Lewis is out stabbing someone else.

  26. hk94 says: Dec 8, 2009 7:23 AM

    @Trolltoll – you love Favre. We get it. But why is he even part of this discussion? He hasn’t been a Packer for 2 seasons now, and for the most part, we are very happy with Rodgers. When Rodgers sucks (which I think he sort of did last night, too many dropped passes and off target throws to blame the receivers), people are always up here boasting about Favre’s awesomeness. It has nothing to do with the game last night. If anything, we should be comparing a 2 pick Favre performance to a 2 pick Rodgers performance. The Rodgers picks are much more rare, but he didn’t let them get inside his head and was still able to win the game.

  27. Crushitlong says: Dec 8, 2009 7:51 AM

    What a pathetic display of officiating. I wouldn’t want this crew to work my kid’s high school games.
    They should never be allowed to officiate another NFL game ever.

  28. Fire Ted says: Dec 8, 2009 7:55 AM

    gotta love it when Vikings fans opine how the Packers beat a bad Ravens team, but a few weeks back, their escape due to a missed Ravens’ FG was a “quality win.” Douchebags.

  29. PervyHarvin says: Dec 8, 2009 8:20 AM

    For all you douche bags slurping on Rodgers junk this morning,get real. Didn’t see numbers any better than Favre vs. the Cards.
    @hk94 -Oh,you want to compare Rodgers vs. Favre this week with a 2 int performance? What a dumbshit football take.
    How about we compare them in how they each played the Ravens. Favre was 21/29att. 278 yards 3tds 0picks 136.9 qb rating. Oh, and Ed Reed played us. You just got owned fool!

  30. Ron E says: Dec 8, 2009 8:22 AM

    Green Bay is stating to play up to thier preseason expectations, they may make it interesting the rest of the way.
    One more win and the Bengals will clinch the AFC North. They’ll take care of that next week with a yet another easy match-up.

  31. GBPackers says: Dec 8, 2009 8:46 AM

    Fan_Of_ Four says:
    December 8, 2009 5:58 AM
    Yup, the Packers looked like a contender out there. ROFLMAO
    The Ravens played like Lions in defeat, the Detroit Lions that is.
    ————————————————–
    You are right. Lets throw in the towel because the Ravens played like ass! Dont even try to make the playoffs because Queens already have their rings ordered. The refs gave us the game. Ray Rice doesn’t like Green Bay. We “kicked” out a HOF QB. We do not deserve it. Did I miss any thing Deanna?

  32. Igottz5onit says: Dec 8, 2009 8:49 AM

    Wow “Raven’s Fan” and you call the Steelers the “Squeelers,” you are such a pathetic hypocrite.

  33. HamBurghlar says: Dec 8, 2009 8:54 AM

    The Ravens are horrible, Flacco is a joke and Ray Lewis has carpel tunnel in his stabbing arm. Consistently the most overrated team in the NFL and never does anything to back it up. Go back to that $hithole Cleveland where the rest of the trash is.

  34. blyons04 says: Dec 8, 2009 8:59 AM

    Several of Rodgers incompletions hit his receivers right in the hands and should have been caught. The biggest hole in the defense is clearly Tramon Williams. Although he isn’t near as bad as Grabby Smurf was (Carroll) or as bad as Jarrett Bush is he still has plenty of room for improvement. The sad thing is that the guy has speed to cover the receivers, he just locks them up underneath with his arm. On another note, the running game didn’t look too bad against Bmore, Grant and Green were both running hard. It’s tough to run against those guys though. It’s good to see our rookie LB’s making a great contribution. Matthews and Jones looked great last night. Hawk actually made a few plays, but Barnett was getting burned by Heap all night long. He had the one stop in the backfield on Rice, but that was it.
    GO PACK GO!

  35. steelerfanforlife says: Dec 8, 2009 9:01 AM

    I would like to point out that no Steeler fan made any negative comments. For all you Raven fans who like to post ignorant things on our posts please take note! Ravens and Steelers are in the same boat this year, we both are in grave danger of missing the playoffs! I sure hope Troy is back for our game against GB b/c I don’t want to see what Rogers will do to our secondary w/o him!

  36. FavreHasAVagina says: Dec 8, 2009 9:04 AM

    Oh my goodness I didn’t see who wrote this story, sorry Raider(GAY) Pride you idiot your moms huge ( . )( . ) were in my face. I typed the breast-oops, I’m mean best I could. Have fun with J. Russell douche.

  37. Supersuckers says: Dec 8, 2009 9:22 AM

    Beer Cheese,
    You are the only one STILL bitching about Thompson (so far) Is it jealousy? Was being a GM of a pro football team (namely the packers) your goal and the man that holds the job and may have built the “jaugurnaut” that you are looking for sitting in your seat? there is a 1/4 of the season left. A lot of season. Right now they have a ferocious defense. Thats only going to get better as the season progresses. There is alot of time left and I dont know how it is going to play out but I do no ted Thomp[son is not going to get fired. You can say Im blowing him or watever nonsense you and Majik spill out about gay sex and bjays but the proof is in the pudding. GET USED TO TED!! HE BUILT YOU A PLAYOFF CALIBER TEAM! There is a methodology he uses and I am a firm believer in that method. Ive seen it work not only in a football sense but in a business sense. In towns everywhere there are small businesses that have used this methodology and have remained viable with loyal customers and employees. Someone selling washers and dryers for 35 years at the same shop would tell you somethng about the methodology. ted uses the same. You pick your people. You train them your way. Do not spend foolishly. Look at every avenue to improve and dont disallow anything. But be smart about it. Is this player or employee a good fit with the other employees he would work with? Would there be personality conflicts? Would this potential employee make his peers better? Its more then on paper beer cheese. It isnt Madden football or fantasy football. All of these thing need to be considered when making a personnel decision. I for one am grateful we have who we have. I read somewhere earlier that Thompson shows no emotion. Well…thats him. Is he supposed to act like Bobby Hebert does? (youtube it) Ever been in a press box during a game? Its silent. There is no cheering allowed for one and where Thompson sits on the road is the press box and at home in a suite with board members and executives. I am sure he needs to keep a level head. Anyone in his position would have to.

  38. Supersuckers says: Dec 8, 2009 9:25 AM

    and the best thing about it beer cheese is the method that Thompson uses allows for a team to be good for a very long time. Im excited. I hope you lose the negativity and get excited too.

  39. GBP says: Dec 8, 2009 9:35 AM

    Percy you’re a moron. Here’s a stat Rodgers has over favre this weekend: W rather than L. Haha.

  40. Calistin says: Dec 8, 2009 9:37 AM

    Rodgers is the man and you can hate all you want haters. Fact is, Packers are set for the next decade w/ a proven franchise QB. He can do everything Favre can do and more. Leads the NFL in QB rushing and TD’s.
    Vikes have Rent-a-Legend Favre, for what, 1 or 2 seasons? Face it, you need Packer players to win for you and even then you still choke b/c you are the Vikings and that’s what Vikings do. Talk shit and then choke on it.
    As for the game. Officials were ridiculous, on both sides. This entire season has made me question if refs are paid off or not. Packers D, was lights out w/ two rookies starting at OLB and both making huge plays. Thanks TT, and again to the haters. Piss off ya wankers. Capers=Evil Genius
    Can’t wait to read all the hype next Monday after the Bengals destroy the paper tiger Vikings and the Packers are 1 game back with 3 games left. That defense is gonna eat Favre alive.

  41. PervyHarvin says: Dec 8, 2009 10:09 AM

    Calistin says:
    Face it, you need Packer players to win for you ..
    ————————————————–
    I have heard of some dumb takes but that may be the best.That means then…
    You need a Raider to be your D star..you know,Charles Woodcock.
    Your 96-97 SuperBowl teams MVP was an Eagle. You know, Reggie White.
    And Favre was a Jet idiot!

  42. footballrulz says: Dec 8, 2009 11:53 AM

    @ Super
    You pick your people. You train them your way. Do not spend foolishly. Look at every avenue to improve and dont disallow anything. But be smart about it. Is this player or employee a good fit with the other employees he would work with? Would there be personality conflicts? Would this potential employee make his peers better?
    ________________________________
    Why are Barbre, Bush, still there? They obviously are not making their peers better. Why is there no O-line discipline?
    I’m afraid you are correct about TT’s employment status. That being said, I have to admit some of TT’s picks are finally starting to pan out. Matthews is looking good, as is Raji & Jones. Personally it seems like they don’t teach blocking 101 in college any longer so I would like to see him gop to FA to shore up that line. But, as you say, I am no GM–thank goodness.
    Still a lot more football to go. Let’s see what happens..
    By the where is that RavensFan dude, you know, the big fat ho, ho, ho?

  43. footballrulz says: Dec 8, 2009 12:04 PM

    @ RavensFan
    Would you like a little cheese with that whine my man? We have plenty. Hope you live on the west cost cause if you’re still posting at 3:29AM you’re taking this way too seriously.
    Whose that big fat ho, ho, ho now? Huh???

  44. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM

    Supersuckers says:
    Beer Cheese,
    You are the only one STILL bitching about Thompson (so far)…
    ____________________________________
    Hardly. There are people named Fire Ted and other variations of it on here, there’s the Fan_of brothers, and you yourself just said Majik was.
    You and Bob are the only ones defending him though. You’re also the ones that get called out repeatedly for all of your generally moronic comments on every single Pack or Viking thread. Coincidence? I doubt it.
    This is not a small business. This is a football franchise. Building through the draft doesn’t work, because the draft is a crapshoot, and because young players need direction. Look at Seattle. Ruskell came in and applied truly novel concepts like leadership, and (gasp) PROVEN talent to Ted’s rookie collection, and they won the Superbowl (although weren’t given the trophy) less than a year later.
    I understand that you’re proud of Ted for breaking the barrier and becoming the first openly gay GM. I know you guys feel you need to support each other like that. However, the knock on Ted has nothing to do with his orientation, he just sucks at his job. Plain and simple.
    PervyHarvin says:
    You need a Raider to be your D star..you know,Charles Woodcock.
    Your 96-97 SuperBowl teams MVP was an Eagle. You know, Reggie White.
    And Favre was a Jet idiot!
    ___________________________________
    Favre was a Falcon, get it right.

  45. Supersuckers says: Dec 8, 2009 12:17 PM

    Barbre was inactive, Bush is playing because of injuries. I mean in the NFl you have to fill a roster. If they thought they had better alternatives then the ones you mentioned they would go get them. A free agent that is a fit at a cost that makes sense yes. In my opininion in the off season that could happen. But the line is playing better with each week and improving each week. We have reached December football which is when the season gets defined. It is too bad Kampman got hurt. We could have parlayed him into some serious draft ammo for Thompson. But Im keeping focus onthis year for now and this very good packer team.

  46. Calistin says: Dec 8, 2009 1:17 PM

    Pervy, I could say the Earth was flat and still come out sounding more intelligent than 99% of your posts.

  47. Supersuckers says: Dec 8, 2009 1:23 PM

    Beer Cheese,
    And look at the seahawks now. Building through the draft is how you maintain long term success. Thompson doesn’t suck at his job. At least his peers dont think he does. But a site clown under the name Beer Cheese Soup says he does. LMAO! Get a job in the NFL and I might give your opinion of our franchises leader a thought or two. you know nothing. Think long term Beer Cheese, Think long term Beer Cheese. Think long term Beer Cheese. Think long term Beer Cheese. Sure you can patch together a team of overpriced vets, get into long term financial trouble for one shot at a title and it may work. both ways have worked I guess. I just prefer long term beer Cheese. Long term beer Cheese Long term Beer Cheese Long term Beer Cheese. And what does Ted’s sexual preference have anything to do with anything? (how you know he is openly gay may be the most interesting point of your post. Sounds like you didn’t ooze out of the closet Beer Cheese. If you know that as factual you broke that closet door down with a stiffy holding a set of anal beads!!)

  48. Supersuckers says: Dec 8, 2009 1:41 PM

    I agree Castilin

  49. PervyHarvin says: Dec 8, 2009 1:54 PM

    @ Calistan- You have not the wit or intellect to go toe to toe with me. Stick the the minor league posters!
    Falcon? LOL That hardly counts Cheese.

  50. Supersuckers says: Dec 8, 2009 1:59 PM

    Funny….the last post o the fire Ted Thompson site was on Nov 18th. Even the guy running it has disappeared!! you people are too predictable Thompson haters!

  51. PervyHarvin says: Dec 8, 2009 2:48 PM

    @ Supersuckers – I heard that son! You know that take is bogus! Where is Mr. Burgess??? He was a smarter guy!

  52. footballrulz says: Dec 8, 2009 4:53 PM

    “sloppy affair”
    I heard there’s a certain golfer of late who’s been having a few of those.

  53. TheBaySay says: Dec 8, 2009 5:26 PM

    Wow BCS I had never before picked up on how much you really hate TT. You don’t think he’s poor at what he does, you flat-out hate him with a venom most of us can’t even really muster for the Bears or Vikes. Bringing up real or alleged sexual orientation as part of why he should be fired? That is real desperation. Generally I have defended Thompson but I certainly admit the foolish things he has done such as the punter change last year and drafting Harrell. If you’re a fair-minded person, which I thought up until now you were, you should be able to admit the good things he has done, such as bringing in Woodson and Pickett, and many (not all certainly, but many) of his draft choices. Look at the last draft class – Raji, Matthews, Lang, Jones – I don’t know if any team had a better, more productive draft. Certainly not by much. Not asking you to show the guy some love (not that there’s anything wrong with that) but you really should be giving him some credit where it’s due.

  54. Bigskyvikes says: Dec 8, 2009 6:22 PM

    PervyHarvin says:
    December 8, 2009 10:09 AM
    Calistin says:
    Face it, you need Packer players to win for you ..
    ————————————————–
    I have heard of some dumb takes but that may be the best.That means then…
    You need a Raider to be your D star..you know,Charles Woodcock.
    Your 96-97 SuperBowl teams MVP was an Eagle. You know, Reggie White.
    And Favre was a Jet idiot
    ————————————————-
    AMEN!!!!

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