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Simms thinks Tebow has "a tough road ahead"

It seems like every day someone new is stepping forward to opine on the NFL prospects of Florida’s Tim Tebow. A few days ago it was Florida governor Charlie Crist. Today it’s someone with slightly better credentials to analyze the quarterback position.

Phil Simms, the former Super Bowl MVP-winning quarterback of the New York Giants, appeared on the Dan Patrick Show and offered his own assessment of Tebow, saying that while quarterback is the right position for him in the NFL, he’s going to need a lot of fine-tuning.

“He’s going to make it in the NFL as a quarterback. Somebody will take him,” Simms said. “I think it’s a pretty tough road ahead. I think he has to make some changes as far as how he throws if he wants to be a successful NFL quarterback.”

Simms takes issue with those who think Tebow can succeed simply because he has the character and leadership of a successful quarterback. Simms says character and leadership aren’t nearly as important as the ability to throw the football. And Simms questions whether Tebow has that ability.

“It’s about the arm,” Simms said. “It’s about the arm. Let’s just get over that. . . . It’s not a powerful arm, by no means. It’s not quick. He’s just really got to control the football better. He doesn’t control it as well as he should to really be a top-flight NFL quarterback, but that can change.”

Simms doesn’t think Tebow has to change positions to play in the NFL. But he does think Tebow has to change his throwing motion. That takes time, and that means any NFL team that drafts him had better be patient.

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  1. ebr362 says: Dec 10, 2009 11:04 AM

    I would love for Miami to take him as the pat white experiment looks like a complete bust. Ronnie/Ricky and Tebow out on the field for the wildcat would be fun to watch.

  2. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Dec 10, 2009 11:06 AM

    hahahahahaha, so what about all of the guys on here that keep saying Tebow has great arm strength? Even Simms doesnt think he make all the throws….

  3. milehiclown says: Dec 10, 2009 11:08 AM

    Simms says: “Simms says character and leadership aren’t nearly as important as the ability to throw the football.”
    Just look at Cutler. Great arm. Total loser.

  4. InBBWeTrust says: Dec 10, 2009 11:11 AM

    The kid needs to stop crying on the sidelines after a loss. Seriously.
    He doesn’t even try to hide it!
    I’m not trying to be a jerk, but that will not fly in the NFL.

  5. Alfie says: Dec 10, 2009 11:12 AM

    Would it? You think Tebow’s going to be running over NFL linebackers and safeties?
    Please. At least Pat White is fast.

  6. Cleveland Sucks aka Philly Sewer Rat says: Dec 10, 2009 11:12 AM

    Tebow sucks! I will remember him for one thing…crying like a little bitch after Alabama spanked him!!!

  7. Mikey D says: Dec 10, 2009 11:14 AM

    Jags pick him up and fans finally attend there games

  8. SteelerNation says: Dec 10, 2009 11:15 AM

    I fail to see how Pat White can be labeled as a “complete bust” at this point in his carreer.

  9. DonTerrelli says: Dec 10, 2009 11:16 AM

    yeah, if he goes to Jacksonville, MJD would just complain more about not getting enough carries, since Tebow would be running instead.

  10. Ross'sSweetMinus says: Dec 10, 2009 11:17 AM

    a teams like the packers or the giants, colts, chargers, queens should take him. They all could use a backup. Plus he could sit and learn from the starter.

  11. leftcoastnative says: Dec 10, 2009 11:25 AM

    Tebow will go to the Jags in a league orchestrated deal to enable the Jags to stay in Jacksonville and sell some tickets. NFL Park Ave suits have enough franchise troubles in several other cities and don’t want to have the Jags in the mix for relocation. That team will not command the relocation money to Los Angeles that another franchise can.
    Tebow reminds me of Bobby Douglas, only Douglas was a little taller, had a rifle for an arm but didn’t know where it was going and really had some good running ability.
    Douglas would have been fantastic in today’s collegiate spread packages.

  12. purplepuzzyeatrz says: Dec 10, 2009 11:27 AM

    TOUGH ROAD???
    Like Kyle Orton, the guy is a proven winner….I think there is so much unnecessary hype on this situation that it baffles my mind. He will without a shadow of a doubt, be drafted into the NFL in the 1st round, probably in the top 10. He will secure a Salary of $5+ million a season, and will bring Killer talent and genetics to whatever position he is expected to play. I can think of 15 teams that Struggle mightily at the QB position, and taking a chance on developing this kind of athlete should be a great opportunity.
    FYI, great competetitors get emotional on the sidelines….Seen many an NFL athlete show emotion in a big time loss….@ INBBW……Are you such a man, that you show no emotion…..Such men are statistically proven to be closet HOMOSEXUALS…so yes, I am calling You…INBBWeTrust, a flaming Backdoor Bandit!

  13. swervinmervin says: Dec 10, 2009 11:27 AM

    Simms is an idiot. Look at his son.
    Tebow will be a fine NFL QB in the right system. He should sit ayear or 2 behind a solid vet. But its all about the system that he’s asked to play in.

  14. straverse says: Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM

    Why does everyone think that the Jags will start magically selling tickets if they draft Tebow? If this guy’s pro career goes the way 90% think it will, why would anyone pay to see him?

  15. Piro says: Dec 10, 2009 11:36 AM

    No way in the world this kid makes it as a QB. He makes Pennington’s arm look strong and his throws wobble like a flat tire whenever he tries to go downfield 20 yds. or more.
    Pennington could make up for it by using his intelligence and throwing precise spirals. Tebow can’t.

  16. Deb says: Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM

    Everyone keeps saying that if the Jags pick Tebow up, the fans will attend their games. Really? The skies are going to part and the Jags are magically going to go 16-0 just because Tebow is on the squad?
    First, Jacksonville sold out for most of its existence and is now in a major economic decline. Having Tim Tebow on the roster isn’t going to put money in the pockets of potential ticket buyers.
    Second, once they realize he won’t be playing, those ticket buyers aren’t going to shell out big bucks to see their hero on the sidelines.
    Third, Simms isn’t saying character and other intangibles are irrelevant. He’s saying they won’t make up for lack of arm strength. The arm is THE key tool in a QB’s arsenal–and it’s a tool Tim Tebow doesn’t have. Period. He’s never had to have it because Meyer doesn’t run a pro-style offense. Without the arm, the character doesn’t matter. My brother has loads of character, but he’s 5’11” and has never thrown a football outside of a backyard game in his life. Should the Jags draft him? Come on! You’ve got to have the base skills before you start worrying about character.

  17. ebr362 says: Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM

    Pat white was drafted to run the wildcat, basically to give them better pass options, I read somewhere, maybe here, that the nfl ball is different than colleges ball and has resulted in Whites current inability to throw accurate passes, something he did not have a problem with in college. Maybe calling him a total bust was harsh at this point as he might be able to develop the touch he had in college, but I have watched his play for the Fins and cringe anytime he comes out. If he can’t throw an accurate pass to open up the wildcat running lanes then what good was the pick?

  18. NFL_1974 says: Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM

    Maybe Papa Simms should give some advice to Lil Simms on how to fine tune his game. Oh wait, thats more like a major overhaul.

  19. wydok says: Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM

    Redskins?
    Rams?
    Jaguars?
    Maybe Vikings as a project (with Favre being as old as he is)?

  20. schism says: Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM

    I am excited to see how things turn out for him, I se him pulling through and making ht eadjustments, he’s not going to be a first year sucess.

  21. Brian says: Dec 10, 2009 11:40 AM

    @ milehiclown
    I think Simms is saying that it doesn’t matter how good of a leader Tebow is if he can’t make the throws.

  22. BradyGazelle says: Dec 10, 2009 11:43 AM

    I’m sure somebody will take him. He’ll probably be another total bust like Pat White too.

  23. scrapdawg12 says: Dec 10, 2009 11:45 AM

    The kid can play. Give him a chance Oakland. C’mon, you got nothing to lose.

  24. Pudge Heffelfinger says: Dec 10, 2009 11:54 AM

    The Simms family knows it takes two things to be a successful NFL QB: a good throwing arm and a spleen.

  25. homercles82 says: Dec 10, 2009 11:56 AM

    InBBWeTrust says:
    December 10, 2009 11:11 AM
    The kid needs to stop crying on the sidelines after a loss. Seriously.
    He doesn’t even try to hide it!
    I’m not trying to be a jerk, but that will not fly in the NFL.
    _________________________________
    Losing the last SEC championship you will play in and losing the shot at a national title in your senior year isn’t a big deal.

  26. FLPackerBacker says: Dec 10, 2009 12:05 PM

    Jacksonville would be a huge, huge mistake for everyone involved. The Jags would get a short term boost in sales and then everyone would hate them when Tebow inevitably struggles. Fair weather Jags fans (ie, most of them and I lived in J’ville for a number of years so I’d know) would scream for him to play his rookie season and then screech against the coaching staff and GM unless he delivered pure magic which he will not.
    I think Tebow can play QB in the NFL. I think he can be a McNabb style QB given enough coaching and time to develop. I I don’t care what Simms thinks about his arm strength; dude has a cannon and has had one since high school. I saw that up close since he went to my alma mater and I watched him play for Nease when I’d come home from college. He can chuck that thing a mile, but he needs to work hard on that throwing motion. That motion actually saps power from his pass because it’s so inefficient.
    Tebow is a tough and fairly big dude with a powerful arm and a very strong will. He needs a lot of work to become a decent to good QB, but I think if he goes to a place with a veteran QB getting ready to retire (Arizona, Minnesota, Philly? Seattle?) or at least someone serviceable who will be pushed out in the next couple of years (Washington) he can develop. If he goes to a place like St. Louis or Oakland who NEED a franchise QB he’s screwed. Jacksonville would be a fine place for him to develop behind Garrard… if it wasn’t his hometown. Tebow will absolutely fail if he sticks around north Florida.

  27. texasPHINSfan says: Dec 10, 2009 12:05 PM

    “InBBWeTrust says:
    December 10, 2009 11:11 AM
    The kid needs to stop crying on the sidelines after a loss. Seriously.
    He doesn’t even try to hide it!
    I’m not trying to be a jerk, but that will not fly in the NFL.”
    ————————————————-
    ^^ Least-intelligent person in this thread, and that is up against some stiff competition.
    Thank god Phil Simms is giving his input. I was wondering what *he* thought of Tebow. Now on to every other person even related to the NFL to give their opinions as well…
    Apparently Tebow is going to fail miserably according to everyone. Perhaps Tebow should just forego the draft and become an insurance salesman? :rolleyes:

  28. willmose says: Dec 10, 2009 12:09 PM

    Just an observation, but Tebow hasn’t been teh same QB since he took the shot to the head in the UK game.

  29. shaunypoo says: Dec 10, 2009 12:19 PM

    IF he sits for a couple of years behind an established starter, IF he can change his throwing motion, IF he can learn to be accurate, IF he can get stronger, IF he can learn to read D’s, and IF he can learn that he will not be able to outrun linebackers in the NFL, than YES, he will probably have a good chance at maybe being a serviceable QB in the NFL.
    Otherwise, switch to H-Back and enjoy 10-15 plays a game.

  30. Jag4Life says: Dec 10, 2009 12:28 PM

    @ Deb
    Long time no hear. You live hear in Florida and you know how deep the Tebow infatuation runs There’s a guy on one of the other Tebow topics who said he’d buy 4 season tickets for his entire family if the Jags draft him, but isn’t a ticket holder now at 7-5 record and is a supposedly Jags fan. Crazy, right.
    The funny thing is I really don’t think it matters if Tebow is a starter or not. As long as he on the field in some role they are happy. Of course if he’s the srtarting QB they will come in droves, but even they got to know that Tebow isn’t half the QB as David Garrard at this point. But I can say, if this is what it’s going to take to keep my team that I love and support from moving then by all means go for it.

  31. smartbrains1980 says: Dec 10, 2009 12:28 PM

    charlie ward and troy smith are better than this guy… one played basketball the other is riding the bench in baltimore behind a divII qb. Lets watch how this double standard unfolds. :)

  32. The Coop says: Dec 10, 2009 12:33 PM

    @Deb –
    Apparently you don’t follow college football. According to Tom Brenneman, “if you’re fortunate enough to spend 5 or 20 minutes with Tim Tebow, YOUR life will be better for it.”
    As a Browns fan, I’m counting AT LEAST 2 extra wins out of them next year simply because Tebow is IN the NFL……… maybe 3 wins if he ends up in the AFC!

  33. bustabloodvessel says: Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM

    Ya, Tebow is gonna be a beast in the NFL. He has to be, because he was such a great college QB, and because every great college QB turns out to be great in the NFL. Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Joey Harrington, Eric Crouch, the list just goes on.

  34. texasPHINSfan says: Dec 10, 2009 12:49 PM

    “willmose says:
    December 10, 2009 12:09 PM
    Just an observation, but Tebow hasn’t been teh same QB since he took the shot to the head in the UK game.”
    Good call, I think you’re on to something there sir.
    The Jags could use Tebow as a H-back, get him 10-15 snaps a game and still keep everyone happy. Tebow is 6’3″, 250 lbs, and not easy to take down. I don’t think he’d have problems being a short-yardage guy that could also be an occassional wildcat thrower.

  35. wrath4771 says: Dec 10, 2009 12:49 PM

    Ron Jaworski once said that if Aaron Rodgers had started his rookie year he wouold probably be out of the league by now. Rodgers had terrible footwork and needed a lot of coaching. Three years later he’s on eof the seven best quarterbacks in the league. If someone can be patient enough with Tebow to give him two-three years to “teach” him how to throw, then yeah I think Tebow can succeed. But if you’re going to throw him into the frying pan, then he’ll be gone within four years. I know everyone has him going to Jacksonville, but that really would be a horrible place for him. He’d be expected to save the franchise. Let him go someplace like Philadelphia, New England, Indy, etc. with an established Qb where he can sit and learn and there isn’t a rush to put him on the field.

  36. Whit says: Dec 10, 2009 12:57 PM

    I think Tebow could be made into a great possession reciever, he has the size, and tons of college QBs who didn’t quite fit into pro QB standards are sucessful recievers nowdays.
    That said, if he wants to play QB, he would probably have to sit 2-3 years and when he is able to start the offense would have to be built around him, something that very few offensive coordinators would be willing to do.

  37. Obeah says: Dec 10, 2009 12:59 PM

    @ The Coop
    If I had to spend 5 or 2o minutes with that bible spouting hypocrite I would most likely kill my self.
    Tebow forgot that “PRIDE goes before the fall of a fool”

  38. dirtysanchez says: Dec 10, 2009 1:09 PM

    A. Of course he cried on the sideline. He’s a competitive guy who lost his last college football game (last game that matters anyway). That’s not to say it wasn’t funny.
    B. Possible teams? Put it this way, who WOULDN’T take a gamble on a guy who’s obviously a gifted athlete?
    C. Will he be a success? Probably not. He’ll get snatched up by a desperate, awful team early on in the draft, will probably begin starting at least midway through his first year, and will struggle incredibly. Maybe he’ll be able to get onto a decent team eventually, and be a career backup. Or go to Canada/Europe.
    D. Who really cares. For all Urban Meyer has talked about what a “great kid” he is, he seems like he’s a “slow kid” or a robot in interviews. Totally without personality or passion. I hope we can all stop hearing about all this crap soon.

  39. Philtration says: Dec 10, 2009 1:20 PM

    # leftcoastnative says: December 10, 2009 11:25 AM
    Tebow reminds me of Bobby Douglas, only Douglas was a little taller, had a rifle for an arm but didn’t know where it was going and really had some good running ability.
    —————————————————-
    And Douglas never cried like a little girl after the Bears lost either.

  40. Fire Ted says: Dec 10, 2009 1:24 PM

    Outside of Peyton Manning, the SEC is anything but a QB conference. Big Ten and Pac Ten, then the rest trail far behind in QB development.

  41. golongboyee says: Dec 10, 2009 1:37 PM

    First of all, you cannot teach a QB at the end of his college career to throw significantly different……too late.
    Second of all, Tebow is too dumb to play QB……the 2 most important things are the arm (as Simms diagnosed) and a mind. Between the two, the mind is THE most important, just ask Bernie Kosar!

  42. Deb says: Dec 10, 2009 1:45 PM

    @Jag4Life … Hey there!! Well, maybe you and The Coop are right. Maybe his sheer presence will do strange and wondrous things. He sure worked voodoo on my mom last weekend.
    We’re DIEHARD Bama fans. Mom couldn’t stand the guy all season. Sunday I go to my folks’ house for dinner and crack wise about Timmy’s Tears. All the sudden, Mom’s inviting me to leave!! My mom! Over Tim Tebow! “Bless his heart, he was HURT! He’s sensitive! How could you make fun of someone who’s hurt and sensitive?!?” She had tears in her eyes!!
    I don’t get it. I just don’t get it. He definitely has some mystical power over older women. But it didn’t do him much good with the Bama D.
    Roll Tide!!!!!!!

  43. Anarcho Purplism says: Dec 10, 2009 2:08 PM

    InBBWeTrust says:
    December 10, 2009 11:11 AM
    The kid needs to stop crying on the sidelines after a loss. Seriously.
    He doesn’t even try to hide it!
    I’m not trying to be a jerk, but that will not fly in the NFL.
    *********************************************
    Spoken like a true uncoordinated, “tough-guy”-moron who has never played any sport at a high-level (those foot-races the girls used to dominate you in 3rd grade don’t count).
    Someone who puts his heart & soul into a game is respected by teammates & fans.
    Our current “information-age” of 24/7 news has only encouraged unprecedented levels of rampant lying & pretense for teflon-phonies. Realness, whether in triumph or defeat is always in demand. People want to see what is real, not “managed perception.”
    The man lost the game. He wanted to win. He cried, then tipped his hat to the other team. He lost with class. I can respect that.
    The post was about is arm strength anyway.

  44. max says: Dec 10, 2009 2:17 PM

    Tebow is not NFL fast, so I don’t see how he could ever play WR. At QB, he won’t be able to run around like he does at UF.
    He’d be a great Mike Alstott type fullback though.

  45. Kevin from Philly says: Dec 10, 2009 2:23 PM

    Phil Simms also said Cutler was the best young QB in the league, if I remember correctly, so take his opinions with a grocery cart full of salt.

  46. finsbooyah says: Dec 10, 2009 2:47 PM

    Uhh I’ve seen multiple people on this thread say that Tebow has a “rocket arm”. Don’t get me wrong, the guy plays his heart out, is a passionate team player, and by all accounts, a class act. For that, he has my respect.
    But Chad Pennington looks like John Elway next to Tebow. “Rocket Arm”??? Give me a break.

  47. Opie says: Dec 10, 2009 3:21 PM

    purplepuzzyeatrz says:
    December 10, 2009 11:27 AM
    “@ INBBW……Are you such a man, that you show no emotion…..Such men are statistically proven to be closet HOMOSEXUALS…so yes, I am calling You…INBBWeTrust, a flaming Backdoor Bandit!”
    ________________________________
    What the hell?!? Did the shots of Jager just kick in?!?
    First, I want to see your stats that are proven.
    Second, I want to know who paid for this utterly useless research.
    Third, I want to know if they are still accepting applications for grants.
    I want to do a study on the amount of alcohol one can consume before becoming absolutely stupid?!? Got a feeling it is based on weight, tolerance, and whether or not someone is stupid (genetically) before consuming said alcohol, but if they will fund a research project that you claim is proven, then I want me some of that pie!!

  48. eagles_2031 says: Dec 10, 2009 7:31 PM

    omg i am so tired of this tebow talk. he will be a horrible qb in the nfl, tight end maybe. they call him baba jesus on the local sports talk radio station down here in the tampa bay area. if jax thinks getting one player will well tickets they are crazy, win some games. that will put asses int he seats and onl then. the bucs suck now and the seats are emtpy too. very fickle fans, you can really tell the real football towns and it really is the orignal nfl teams from back in the day. on a seperate note i also thing the superbowl should rotate to every nfl city, they played it in the snow and rian and ice in the day. why not now? liek it wont selll out….please….

  49. Favre On HGH says: Dec 10, 2009 10:20 PM

    Simms takes issue with those who think Tebow can succeed simply because he has the character and leadership of a successful quarterback.
    ————-
    Reminds me of Vince Young, only Young could throw better.
    Jury is still out on him.

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