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League wants Raiders, Niners to share a stadium

With talk heating up regarding the location of a new 49ers stadium (San Francisco and Santa Clara currently are pulling opposite ends of the rope), there’s a wrinkle in the situation that cannot be ignored.

There are two teams in the broader Bay Area market.

And a league source tells us that the NFL strongly prefers that both the 49ers and the Raiders share a stadium, if a new stadium is to be built.

The reasoning is fairly simple.  With a price tag of $750 million or more associated with the construction of a new facility, it makes more sense to build one than it does to build two.

So we’ll be setting aside the East Coast bias (for a change) and keeping close watch on how this one unfolds.  The smart move would be to build a Jets-Giants facility in a suitable location.  Getting the 49ers and Raiders on the same page and finding a suitable location will be the biggest challenge.

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  1. AzraelPC says: Dec 11, 2009 7:25 AM

    Over Al Davis’ dead body… Oh, wait… Ok.

  2. soupnazi says: Dec 11, 2009 7:35 AM

    I’d rather my 9ers play on the rec yard of Alcatraz with a broken bottle, than share oxygen with those inbred sub-forms and that old dinosaur with his crusty pants.

  3. Chris Bieschke says: Dec 11, 2009 7:44 AM

    Sorry, don’t want to share a stadium with those scummy Raider fans. No matter how much it makes sense.

  4. Patsfan1776 says: Dec 11, 2009 7:51 AM

    Doesn’t this impact the each franchise is it’s own entity or do I have that backwards?

  5. Nobe says: Dec 11, 2009 8:06 AM

    Raiders to Toronto, problem solved.

  6. KingRichardSB says: Dec 11, 2009 8:10 AM

    Do either of those teams even deserve a new stadium?

  7. Joe in Toronto, Canada says: Dec 11, 2009 8:10 AM

    Getting the 49ers and Raiders on the same page and finding a suitable location will be the biggest challenge.
    ======================================
    A HUGE challenge. Can’t see it working myself.
    To you 69er fans, Aids is under control everywhere except where there are high concentrations of gay men.
    The Nation will pass on sharing ANYTHING with you, much less a stadium.

  8. Ranoversquarells says: Dec 11, 2009 8:12 AM

    From ashy to classy. I like it.

  9. tatum32 says: Dec 11, 2009 8:15 AM

    “I’d rather my 9ers play on the rec yard of Alcatraz with a broken bottle, than share oxygen with those inbred sub-forms and that old dinosaur with his crusty pants.”
    Better grow up…before it becomes the L.A. 49ers…. need to be realistic and cut the jokes. lot of revenue to be shared, and if the league wants it, its likely to be done. Dont be so childish.

  10. Bigbluefan says: Dec 11, 2009 8:15 AM

    Sorry to say it really is a smart move
    It has worked for years here
    Just make sure the ends are open so that the stink of the radiers will blow away
    That is the only thing wrong here we have to deal with the stench that is the JETS

  11. INVAIDUH says: Dec 11, 2009 8:19 AM

    Naaaaaaa….Rather not.
    Back at ya Chris.

  12. bobinpuertorico says: Dec 11, 2009 8:24 AM

    They could always follow the model of the New York Giants and the New York Jets, whose shared stadium is in New Jersey. Perhaps the Niners and Raiders should play their games in Reno, Nevada.

  13. pats suck, blow and cheat* says: Dec 11, 2009 8:30 AM

    Patsfan1776 says:
    December 11, 2009 7:51 AM
    Doesn’t this impact the each franchise is it’s own entity or do I have that backwards?
    WTF are you trying to say? This is what happens when someone from NE can’t copy off of a smart kid from out of town.

  14. lukestrass says: Dec 11, 2009 8:50 AM

    they should take both of these teams and kick them out of the league….problem solved
    they both stink and show zero signs of not stinking in the future
    alex smith and gradkowski
    give me a break

  15. crispy says: Dec 11, 2009 8:51 AM

    So much for it being “Home”…

  16. bearsrule says: Dec 11, 2009 8:52 AM

    soupnazi says: December 11, 2009 7:35 AM
    I’d rather my 9ers play on the rec yard of Alcatraz with a broken bottle, than share oxygen with those inbred sub-forms and that old dinosaur with his crusty pants.
    BAM !!!!! Wow, nicely worded.

  17. wydok says: Dec 11, 2009 8:52 AM

    It shouldn’t be too hard to find a suitable location. The two cities are right across the bay from each other.
    @Patsfan1776: It’s no different than the Giants and Jets sharing a stadium, which they’ve done since 1492 or something like that.

  18. BoltDaddy says: Dec 11, 2009 8:53 AM

    Hey Niner fans get over it. First of all when you have a home game the stadium in your home, no Faider stuff around to pollute your whine and cheese, second the econoics will drive the two sides together, regardless of how much you distain each other. Besides the dump you play in shoud be condemed, it is an enviornmental sewer, so shut up sit down and watch the game in your new, albeit shared, stadium

  19. bearsrule says: Dec 11, 2009 8:54 AM

    “So we’ll be setting aside the East Coast bias “…. HaHa, that’s a joke.

  20. Marty says: Dec 11, 2009 8:56 AM

    So where will the LA Bills Play?

  21. umcouldbe says: Dec 11, 2009 9:01 AM

    I love all the in depth analysis–Niner/Raider fans & Jets/Giants fans having a dick measuring contest. All 4 of you suck right now.
    Having said that, the stadium sounds like a good, cost effective idea.

  22. jb10 says: Dec 11, 2009 9:07 AM

    no matter if it makes sense or not al davis will never let this happen.

  23. Alfie says: Dec 11, 2009 9:10 AM

    LA Raiders and LA 49ers.
    Problem solved.

  24. Cereal Blogger says: Dec 11, 2009 9:12 AM

    Or do they want Al Davis to kick the bucket so they can move the team back to LA ?

  25. Hap says: Dec 11, 2009 9:12 AM

    In that scenario,
    who’s the home team when interleague play is slated ? Duh.

  26. zygi milf says: Dec 11, 2009 9:14 AM

    Since the NFL owners seem to think that LA and London are such hot markets, why not have every game by every team played in those locations and let all of the current cities keep their teams in name only. Most people would rather watch on TV anyway.
    In case you can’t tell, I am being sarcastic – but probably the only way Jacksonville can keep the Jags.

  27. ftomeo says: Dec 11, 2009 9:18 AM

    It seems pretty clear that this doesn’t work. The NY teams represent the same region. Oakland and San Fran do not. The most obvious “neutral” turf is San Jose, which has already been proposed as a move for both teams under separate discussions of moving and was vehemently opposed by both fan bases independently. Making the move for both teams to a city the fanbases oppose and sharing facilities which the fans will certainly oppose seems ridiculous.
    Of course, the economics are untenable for both teams so we’ll probably some day not have East and West Bay teams but 2 South Bay teams. Sad.

  28. Bwa Ha Ha says: Dec 11, 2009 9:19 AM

    LA Raiders and LA 49ers?
    Do they have any fans in LA?
    Like, football fans?
    Maybe they could share a skateboard park?

  29. RaiderClay says: Dec 11, 2009 9:30 AM

    This may make financial sense, but the thought of having to shack up with niner fans makes me ill.
    That said, the thought getting a brand new silver & black fortress for the raiders themselves – that would be amazing… one day…. one day…

  30. birdmancometh says: Dec 11, 2009 9:33 AM

    If they share wins as well they might be able to make it to the playoffs.

  31. Michael LaRocca says: Dec 11, 2009 9:37 AM

    Call it Thunderdome. Cue Tina Turner:
    Two teams enter
    One team leaves
    Two teams enter
    One team leaves

  32. MakingitRain says: Dec 11, 2009 9:44 AM

    The NFL isnt going to pay for these stadiums. Why do they care if the teams build there own stadiums? If the city pays or the state or the owners, I can’t see why the NFL would care. The revenue from leasing the stadiums for bowl games and other college games might would justify them having there own.

  33. SATAN567 says: Dec 11, 2009 10:10 AM

    Just because you have an East Coast bias doesn’t mean you have to talk about two irrelevant teams. There is plenty to talk about with the Broncos, Chargers, Cardinals, and Cowboys, all of which are west of the Mississippi.

  34. Sonoco says: Dec 11, 2009 10:13 AM

    Yes . . . Bay Area haters the Niners and Raiders deserve a new stadium . . . consider it a lifetime achievement award. Please see the EIGHT Lombardi’s Trophies that reside by the Bay.

  35. encinitasraider says: Dec 11, 2009 10:13 AM

    just move the niners to LA…they wont be missed in the Bay Area

  36. Big G says: Dec 11, 2009 10:17 AM

    Like the Raiders with there current admin. will be able to pony up there share of revenue. I would rather they make Florio share a room with AL Davis.

  37. Silverdog says: Dec 11, 2009 10:19 AM

    This has the potential to make the Raiders and 49ers big players in the NFL. The area as a whole is the 5th largest market in the U.S. If they can choose a site (with parking), and agree to share, the stadium can be among the best (and most profitable) in the league. Owners like Jones want to make it league of haves and have nots. This may come to pass like baseball. If so, these two teams with be at the big boy table IF they can cooperate. I’m a Raider fan, but but business is business. I’m also a football fan. If I lived out there, I would go to all 16 games even though 8 of them would be 9er games. It also makes sense for the cities, counties, and twonships involved. More $$ to go around. Be smart and hate later.

  38. Quagmire says: Dec 11, 2009 10:20 AM

    Seems to work ok for the New Jersey Jets & Giants.

  39. Sonoco says: Dec 11, 2009 10:40 AM

    RFM says:
    December 11, 2009 10:14 AM
    The Raiders just signed a lease extension with Oakland/Alameda to keep them there through 2013. How does that play into it, Florio?
    ******************************************
    It fits a potential deal. The current target for the Niners in Santa Clara is a 2014 home opener.

  40. savagenation says: Dec 11, 2009 10:40 AM

    #
    reside by the Bay.
    # encinitasraider says: December 11, 2009 10:13 AM
    just move the niners to LA…they wont be missed in the Bay Area
    …..Right. LA Smogland wasn’t even aware they had the Rams or Raiders there.
    The real 49er fans are in Santa Clara/San Jose, always have been. SF is a freak show city and Oakland is a gang-land war zone who’s raider fans are let out of jail on sunday to attend games

  41. raidertg says: Dec 11, 2009 10:44 AM

    I think it would be funny as hell. Just thinnk about it when the whiners play at home they will serve, cheese, wine, shimp and champagne and everyone will sit in there seats and golf clap for the crapy team. Then when the real bay area team plays they will serve real drinks and shots all around and good real staduim food that those nose in the air whiner fan think they are better then. The fans will true get load and support there team. I’m all for a new statuim even if it is share with the 9ers all playing aside it realy does make since and it would keep both team around isn’t take what both sides of the bay want. On the down side it means an extra 30 minute to my drive 10 game a game. What the hell they say gas is cheap right now.

  42. Bob Nelson says: Dec 11, 2009 10:52 AM

    In 10 years it could be nice.
    The NFL cannot force anyone to deal with Al Davis.
    It is difficult enough to share an sirport with Al Davis without getting a lawsuit.
    The stadiums will have to wait until Al Davis is completely out of the picture and some common sense can take place.

  43. rydec says: Dec 11, 2009 10:53 AM

    move em back to LA, it only failed once. They would have a stronger core of fans to begin with rather than the crappy jags who nobody in this country gives a damn about(other than me, and maybe a few others) .

  44. soupnazi says: Dec 11, 2009 10:56 AM

    LOL’ing at the moron Raiders fans attempting to reply articulately…
    Stop stealing teh internetz at Radio Shack and go tend to your sisters.

  45. JSpicoli says: Dec 11, 2009 10:59 AM

    The Raiders are currently on the best spot possible in the Bay Area, and won’t leave there.
    Sharing would only happen in OAK at the current site, why would the Raiders move to a lame-ass site, with not enough parking, with water on three sides?(have to cross a bridge to get there unless you live in San Jose area)
    The Coliseum is surrounded by BART, and airport, multiple freeways coming from all inland directions and you do not have to cross a bridge to get there. Oh yeah, it is centrally located in the Bay Area too.
    Face it, the niners are in a screwed up situation and having another team join them doesn’t help anything but the niners and “misery loves company”.
    Sorry to inject reality in the fantasy scenario presented here, and the mouth-breathing comments from the niner fans = true losers.
    The niner fans cannot help themselves, back to back HOF QB’s, a weak division and the pedestal treatment from the media made them into spoiled babies. There are some real niner fans out there, but most of them are just fringe fans with little respect, or knowledge for the league or adversaries. I hope they continue to lose for 20 years, and with the Yorks at the helm, they have a chance.
    They also have a greater chance of going to LA than the Raiders do, but it will most likely be JAX, MINN or SDC.

  46. shake&bake says: Dec 11, 2009 10:59 AM

    Niner fans crack me up they think their team is so much better. Look at the Raiders record the last 7 years and the niners record….. Not much difference is there ? The Niners are in the basemaent with the Raiders. Sharing a stadium will benefit both teams it’s a great idea. And yeah if the Niners don’t want to do it then so long find another city. It’s true they would not be missed at all.

  47. DcNinerFan says: Dec 11, 2009 11:07 AM

    Sure that would work, only if Faider fans would promise not to drink 3 gallons of beer and barf in the urinals. Ok, thats asking a bit much. Hmmm, it would work if Faider fans would promise not to spit on the fans of visiting teams… no, thats asking too much.
    No, it won’t work, for the simple reason that Faider fans aren’t human, and therefore wouldn’t be allowed in a 49ers stadium.

  48. R8R_BOB says: Dec 11, 2009 11:12 AM

    If the league want the RAIDERS and Whiners to share a stadium then the NFL should build it for them. Problem solved.

  49. Fan_Of_ Four says: Dec 11, 2009 11:16 AM

    So you don’t want to share a stadium with those other crappy fans ? So I guess you’d prefer to have your taxes raised and build them each their own stadium ?
    Morons.

  50. StevieMo says: Dec 11, 2009 11:16 AM

    I like the fellows bad-mouthing these teams for their current composition, mostly due to sad-sack ownership.
    Then again, I’m sure they’re fans of teams like the Vikings, who have never won anything.
    The Raiders and Niners have won eight Super Bowl championships and, based on history alone, deserve a new shared stadium backed by the NFL.
    I’m in the business and there are 300 acres coming up for development at the East Bay end of the Bay Bridge, which is the geographical hub of the Bay Area. The infrastructure is there for the most part and a new BART (subway) station would be a piece of cake.
    Great idea, except that both teams are owned by buffoons.

  51. raiders177 says: Dec 11, 2009 11:22 AM

    Yea this isn’t gonna happen. The Niners seem hell-bent on leaving SF and there is no way the taxpayers of Santa Clara/San Jose are gonna fund a stadium. Seems like they are stuck at the Stick, and the Raiders are stuck at the Coliseum.

  52. AutumnWind999 says: Dec 11, 2009 11:23 AM

    You want the Raiders to share a stadium? With the 69ers?
    OK. Sure. Then let’s get Mad Max on the phone and tell him we’d like to turn the Thunderdome into a gay bathhouse every other weekend. Think that’s feasible?

  53. goetta-head says: Dec 11, 2009 11:27 AM

    That way neither one of the teams will sell it out!

  54. City_Native says: Dec 11, 2009 11:32 AM

    Raider Fans are so funny . . .
    Hey Dumbasses . . . you act like we need you for a stadium. The Niners have TWO sites going forward in building a stadium in the Bay. How many do you have? Thats right…ZERO. We do not need you . . . you need us.
    I wish I could rip on how much your team sucks but I do not know . . . I cant watch them. How many consecutive blackouts? More empty seats then fans at the games? Wow, great fan base! You guys are so die-hard.
    You guys are so tough on the message boards . . .
    The Niner Empire will always dominate you.

  55. DocBG says: Dec 11, 2009 11:41 AM

    They play across the bay from each other, why not set up shop deep underwater in the middle of the bay?
    The only problem with this plan is that the raiders don’t draw a full house so the causalities won’t be as high amongst their fans, still wishful thinking though.

  56. mcm says: Dec 11, 2009 11:45 AM

    This is an absurd discussion. The economy and politics will not allow the local governments or the state to fund two stadiums, and neither team can really demand PSL dollars at the level it would cost on their own to build the stadium. Both teams will need to reach the logical conclusion that a joint location is the best economics and their fan bases will both be angry. They also know that angry fan bases will still show up and pay because that is the way the system works.
    It is not realistic that either side will agree to their area of the bay area, so San Jose or Santa Clara will be the outcome. This is the case in Arizona, Tempe or Glendale, the economics will drive location.

  57. raiderchristian11 says: Dec 11, 2009 11:50 AM

    I DONT WANT MY TEAM THE RAIDERS TO SHARE WITH THE WHINERS

  58. raiders177 says: Dec 11, 2009 12:10 PM

    “City_Native says: December 11, 2009 11:32 AM
    Hey Dumbasses . . . you act like we need you for a stadium. The Niners have TWO sites going forward in building a stadium in the Bay. How many do you have? Thats right…ZERO. We do not need you . . . you need us.”
    Oh yeah? 2? Where? The Niners are apparently rejecting the idea of building a stadium in SF according to Newsome, but you’re deliusional if you think people in Santa Clara County are gonna pony up money for a new stadium. These are people who rejected an extra 12 cents a month tax that would’ve brought the Giants to San Jose.

  59. Ninerpasta says: Dec 11, 2009 12:11 PM

    Any Dumbass can see sharing a stadium may be the only viable solution here. But those sh#* soaked Raiders never want to compromise…IF ANY TEAM SHOULD GO TO LA IT’S THE RAIDERS..My Niners were HERE FIRST AND THEY’VE NEVER LEFT!! And to yous jizz faces on here who say WE don’t deserve a new stadium and we should move to LA have U seen Candlestick lately?! Chances are you’re fans are from some Shi*!!y cities whose teams are not nearly of deserving of a new venue as the Niners and Raiders are…SO TO ALL YOUS PRICKS AND JERK OFFS WHO WANT TO RAG ON MY NINERS IN PARTICULAR, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  60. Ninerpasta says: Dec 11, 2009 12:16 PM

    Any Dumbass can see sharing a stadium may be the only viable solution here. But those sh#* soaked Raiders never want to compromise…IF ANY TEAM SHOULD GO TO LA IT’S THE RAIDERS..My Niners were HERE FIRST AND THEY’VE NEVER LEFT!! And to yous jizz faces on here who say WE don’t deserve a new stadium and we should move to LA have U seen Candlestick lately?! Chances are you’re fans are from some Shi*!!y cities whose teams are not nearly of deserving of a new venue as the Niners and Raiders are…SO TO ALL YOUS PRICKS AND JERK OFFS WHO WANT TO RAG ON MY NINERS IN PARTICULAR, MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  61. NinerNation says: Dec 11, 2009 12:22 PM

    Wow, so many of you(Niners&Raiders fans) sound like little children…grow up, you’re just making yourselves look like idiots.
    As for the stadium issue, the Niners’ current plan is to front the majority of the cash…something recent teams haven’t done.
    The Niners want their own stadium, and the Raiders want their own stadium, fine, leave it at that.
    Goodell had that league fund that helped to build the new Cowboys stadium, and the Jet/Giants stadium…and then the fund went bankrupt when the Niners came calling…how conveinent. Goodell is a horrible commissioner in every conceivable way.
    Also, San Francisco has been stepping it up recently in a bid to keep the Niners in the city. I believe Florio said something the other day about the Niners using Santa Clara and San Fran against each other to get the best location and deal. I agree with that and expect that to be the outcome, not a shared stadium with the Raiders.

  62. topcide says: Dec 11, 2009 12:28 PM

    Judging by the comments made here by the beasts known as Raiders fans, I think that the States money is much better suited being used to fund the english departments of schools on the east side of the bay.

  63. Ninerpasta says: Dec 11, 2009 12:30 PM

    My Niners NEVER LEFT, THEY NEVER WILL.
    The Raiders left before…THEY SHOULD AGAIN. My Niners were here FIRST…the Raiders came real late. U fans who say we don’t deserve a new stadium and should move to LA… HA! BTW u fans who say that, I’m sure your teams have new flashy stadiums…and I’m even more sure that outside a couple years of relevency this decade your teams are MUCH more deserving, right? If I’m wrong, show me your team’s hardware.

  64. Ninerpasta says: Dec 11, 2009 12:32 PM

    My Niners NEVER LEFT, THEY NEVER WILL.
    The Raiders left before…THEY SHOULD AGAIN. My Niners were here FIRST…the Raiders came real late. U fans who say we don’t deserve a new stadium and should move to LA… HA! BTW u fans who say that, I’m sure your teams have new flashy stadiums…and I’m even more sure that outside a couple years of relevency this decade your teams are MUCH more deserving, right? If I’m wrong, show me your team’s hardware.

  65. R8R_BOB says: Dec 11, 2009 1:20 PM

    City_Native says:
    December 11, 2009 11:32 AM
    Raider Fans are so funny . . .
    Hey Dumbasses . . . you act like we need you for a stadium. The Niners have TWO sites going forward in building a stadium in the Bay. How many do you have? Thats right…ZERO. We do not need you . . . you need us.
    I wish I could rip on how much your team sucks but I do not know . . . I cant watch them. How many consecutive blackouts? More empty seats then fans at the games? Wow, great fan base! You guys are so die-hard.
    You guys are so tough on the message boards . . .
    The Niner Empire will always dominate you.
    ———————————————————
    A Niner Empire with NO MONEY. Hmm, I wonder why the NFL would propose that the Whiners and RAIDERS would share a stadium. I got it. It is because the state of California has not built a stadium with taxpayer dollars in decades.
    The Whiners don’t have the billion dollars IT WILL take to build a new stadium on their own. If the “Niner Empire” had it so good, they would have been in a new stadium at the start of the decade. The NFL is attempting to throw a bone at the Whiners by getting the RAIDERS on board or do you prefer the Whiners moving down south? You choose…..

  66. GreyGoate says: Dec 11, 2009 1:25 PM

    The greatness of the Raiders precludes associating with second tier teams which do not share the Will to Win. Commitment to Excellence does not include dropping your pants at halftime. The legacy of Mr. Davis does not include cooperating with inexperienced interlopers (the York family) who take his good friend’s (Bill Walsh) legacy and grind it into the dirt. Yeah, the ‘Niners had a good run, but remember the ‘60’s and ‘70’s? We didn’t think so. Mr. Davis does, and will choose to chart an independent course in our Return to Glory. Pride and Poise won’t stand for any amusement park stadium.

  67. Route36West says: Dec 11, 2009 4:20 PM

    I dunno if that would work Al Davis seems like the type of guy who would hide a rotten fish in the owners box when he knows the 49ers are going to be their the next week.

  68. zygi milf says: Dec 11, 2009 4:23 PM

    Ninerpasta – must you post everything twice?

  69. City_Native says: Dec 11, 2009 6:33 PM

    # GreyGoate says: December 11, 2009 1:25 PM
    The greatness of the Raiders precludes associating with second tier teams which do not share the Will to Win. (LOL) Commitment to Excellence does not include dropping your pants at halftime.
    The legacy of Mr. Davis does not include cooperating with inexperienced interlopers (the York family) who take his good friend’s (Bill Walsh) legacy and grind it into the dirt. Yeah, the ‘Niners had a good run, but remember the ‘60’s and ‘70’s? We didn’t think so. Mr. Davis does, and will choose to chart an independent course in our Return to Glory. Pride and Poise won’t stand for any amusement park stadium.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
    This post has to be a joke, right?

  70. Ashman23 says: Dec 11, 2009 8:54 PM

    How uneducated are some NFL fans?
    I’m a Raiders to be up front.
    I don’t understand why there has to be ripping on each other (Niners vs Raiders) all the time. Act your age.
    Just because the league wants its it doesn’t mean it will happen. If Goddell wants it then the league can find the money to make it happen.
    No matter what you say here it won’t change whatever the future holds. In the financial situation the world is in today, sharing makes the best sense – who gives a fig whether you don’t want to share, don’t want it here or there. If it’s going to happen then it’s going to happen.
    Wake up and get a grip on reality.

  71. madhack says: Dec 12, 2009 5:40 AM

    This suggestion is NOT the same as the Giants/Jets. Both of those teams purport to represent “New York”. Whether you consider that to be the city or the state, the tradition (at least officially) is to embrace all the different folks in that population.
    San Francisco and Oakland are 5 miles apart geographically, but thousands of miles apart culturally. So, while the fans may have little or no input into the idea of a shared stadium, they’ll certainly not accept the idea of a shared stadium.
    (To the guy who suggested the only real 49ers fans are in the Santa Clara and San Jose: the peninsula would have way more 49ers fans even if you managed to convert all the Raiders people in East SJ.)
    I do agree that the proposed 49ers site in Santa Clara is the most likely. I’m sure the Great America guys are just looking to be paid off and not trying to be a genuine roadblock, and San Francisco has neither the money nor the political desire to make a really viable counteroffer, at this point.
    I also agree that Al Davis is the biggest obstacle to a shared stadium, and not just for the obvious reasons around rivalries and control. Any city would be insane to build him a stadium, at this point. He still thinks it’s the fault of the Oakland taxpayers who subsidized his current stadium that they can’t sell out games. Apparently he hasn’t considered the fact that the only people who want to pay to watch a shitty team in the company of thousands of drunk thugs are other drunk thugs, and there are only so many of those who can afford NFL tickets. As someone who may be paying Oakland property taxes in the next few years, I sincerely hope LA rolls out the red carpet for Davis. They deserve each other.
    And no, I’m not a 9ers fan–their ownership and team are almost as bad as the Raiders’–but my years in the East Bay have definitely taught me to be a Raiders hater.

  72. madstork43 says: Dec 12, 2009 9:31 AM

    @madhack; Raider hater, Young boy lover. No one cares who you hate, so stick that right up you’re ass!

  73. jedicurt says: Dec 12, 2009 12:26 PM

    These types of posts are exactly why i don’t like telling people that i’m a Raiders fan… 99.9999% of us would rather through out hate speech rather than have a legit discussion about an issue.
    anyways, enough about that
    @topcide
    “I wonder why anyone would think radiers fans are trashy… It’s pretty funny for the fans that wear face paint and halloween costumes to games to be making jokes about anyone.”
    ummm… as far as i’m aware… this happens with fans of all 32 teams… atleast from what i see while watching the crowds as i watch the games on TV… but maybe i’m just delusional in that since.
    As for the shared stadium idea… it is great from an economical standpoint. if both sides of the Bay are able to come to a mutual decision, the revenue generated would be amazing. The sad situation is that you are talking about a part of the US that is just a few miles geographically separate, but millions of miles when you look at cultural differences. This is perhaps the best example of the Class War that is still very much alive in our Country, and what is worse is that the Classes are not divided by wealth and poverty but by the perception of wealth and poverty, there are many residents of the East Bay who are far more wealthy than most of the residents of the West Bay, yet because of the fact that they live on the wrong side of the bay they are thought to be nothing but low class trash. And the East Bay doesn’t think to well of the West Bay residents as well.
    This is one reason why this would never happen… the second reason as to why it won’t happen is that if you are building a joint stadium solely for the reason of economics, then economics would state that the stadium should either be in San Jose or in the East Bay (if not where the coliseum is now, perhaps in Dublin) and this is because of ease of use, public accessibility, and cost of land.
    And now the Niner fans need to realize that this is probably the most logical location. A joint stadium doesn’t make any economical sense on the Peninsula, and since the whole purpose of a joint stadium is for economics… those are the cold hard facts.

  74. Tim says: Dec 12, 2009 11:46 PM

    Just share baby!

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