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		<title>By: Biff Henderson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frank Burns</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know I hope I&#039;m not too late to respond to the ignorant fools.
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Majik Man says:
December 11, 2009 12:02 PM
Frank
Yeah, Big Ben carries that team, just like he did last night against the worst team in football. And it&#039;s funny to hear a Steeler fan call another QB a game manager, when that&#039;s exactly what Big Ben is. His first SB win, he threw for 2300 yards in 12 games. Not even 200 yards a game. Then he had the impressive QB rating of 18 in the Super Bowl.
Last year, he threw for 3300 yards 17 TD&#039;s, and 15 picks, and they win the Super Bowl again with Ben the game manager.
Ben is only successful when not asked to do much. Look at this year, his best statistical year by far (which still isn&#039;t that good), and the Steelers are 6-7. When Ben is asked to carry the team, he takes them right to the cellar.
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This is a summary of the Steelers first championship run of the &#039;00s:
Quarterback: Roethlisberger (2385 passing yards, 17 TD, 9 INT) had an outstanding regular season, posting a 98.6 passer rating and generally displaying the presence that led him to be named 2004 NFL Rookie of the Year, but reserved his best play for the postseason. &quot;Big Ben&quot; is 49-of-72 passing (68.1 percent) for 680 yards with seven touchdowns and just one interception through three 2005 playoff games, for a lusty passer rating of 124.8.
Running Backs: The Steelers running game has struggled somewhat during the playoffs, with both Willie Parker (1202 rushing yards, 18 receptions, 5 TD), and Jerome Bettis (368 rushing yards, 9 TD) averaging well under four yards per carry. Parker has just 132 yards on 47 carries (2.8 avg.) on the ground...
As you can see, the run game completely disappeared, and still Roethlisberger put up blistering 125 rating performances. If THAT isn&#039;t carrying your team the concept has no meaning.
I guess you already forgot last year&#039;s Bowl, when that &quot;great&quot; Steeler D collapsed in the 4th quarter? If not for a team-carrying QB to lead a historic drive, there is no Sixburgh.
Now please all of you hater clowns sit down and shut up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I hope I&#8217;m not too late to respond to the ignorant fools.<br />
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Majik Man says:<br />
December 11, 2009 12:02 PM<br />
Frank<br />
Yeah, Big Ben carries that team, just like he did last night against the worst team in football. And it&#8217;s funny to hear a Steeler fan call another QB a game manager, when that&#8217;s exactly what Big Ben is. His first SB win, he threw for 2300 yards in 12 games. Not even 200 yards a game. Then he had the impressive QB rating of 18 in the Super Bowl.<br />
Last year, he threw for 3300 yards 17 TD&#8217;s, and 15 picks, and they win the Super Bowl again with Ben the game manager.<br />
Ben is only successful when not asked to do much. Look at this year, his best statistical year by far (which still isn&#8217;t that good), and the Steelers are 6-7. When Ben is asked to carry the team, he takes them right to the cellar.<br />
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This is a summary of the Steelers first championship run of the &#8217;00s:<br />
Quarterback: Roethlisberger (2385 passing yards, 17 TD, 9 INT) had an outstanding regular season, posting a 98.6 passer rating and generally displaying the presence that led him to be named 2004 NFL Rookie of the Year, but reserved his best play for the postseason. &#8220;Big Ben&#8221; is 49-of-72 passing (68.1 percent) for 680 yards with seven touchdowns and just one interception through three 2005 playoff games, for a lusty passer rating of 124.8.<br />
Running Backs: The Steelers running game has struggled somewhat during the playoffs, with both Willie Parker (1202 rushing yards, 18 receptions, 5 TD), and Jerome Bettis (368 rushing yards, 9 TD) averaging well under four yards per carry. Parker has just 132 yards on 47 carries (2.8 avg.) on the ground&#8230;<br />
As you can see, the run game completely disappeared, and still Roethlisberger put up blistering 125 rating performances. If THAT isn&#8217;t carrying your team the concept has no meaning.<br />
I guess you already forgot last year&#8217;s Bowl, when that &#8220;great&#8221; Steeler D collapsed in the 4th quarter? If not for a team-carrying QB to lead a historic drive, there is no Sixburgh.<br />
Now please all of you hater clowns sit down and shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: j fan 15632</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to hand it to the Browns, the beat the Steelers just as much as the Steelers beat themselves.  The Steelers are falling apart right now and need to get it back together.  What I find a freaking joke though is the &quot;anthem of the true loser&quot;.  That would be every sorry loser on all these sites who likes to say that the Steelers Super Bowls were won because of NFL/ref/drug use/(insert additional pitiful excuse here).  Anyone of average intelligence who watches any football knows every team has calls that go for them and calls that go against them, it&#039;s called football.  Also, anyone who believes that the Steelers were/are the only team in the NFL to ever use performance enhancing drugs is in total denial.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to hand it to the Browns, the beat the Steelers just as much as the Steelers beat themselves.  The Steelers are falling apart right now and need to get it back together.  What I find a freaking joke though is the &#8220;anthem of the true loser&#8221;.  That would be every sorry loser on all these sites who likes to say that the Steelers Super Bowls were won because of NFL/ref/drug use/(insert additional pitiful excuse here).  Anyone of average intelligence who watches any football knows every team has calls that go for them and calls that go against them, it&#8217;s called football.  Also, anyone who believes that the Steelers were/are the only team in the NFL to ever use performance enhancing drugs is in total denial.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How did I completely miss this article until I noticed it on the Most Commented list?
Good gried, after reading all these goofy comments, I&#039;ve forgotten the topic ... oh yeah, the team is embarrassed. Well, you shouldn&#039;t be embarrassed by losing to the Browns. They played very well. You should be embarrassed by the way you played--without heart. We need to make some personnel changes in the coming offseason. But no coach can give you heart. You&#039;ll have to do that yourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did I completely miss this article until I noticed it on the Most Commented list?<br />
Good gried, after reading all these goofy comments, I&#8217;ve forgotten the topic &#8230; oh yeah, the team is embarrassed. Well, you shouldn&#8217;t be embarrassed by losing to the Browns. They played very well. You should be embarrassed by the way you played&#8211;without heart. We need to make some personnel changes in the coming offseason. But no coach can give you heart. You&#8217;ll have to do that yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Whit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is English not your first language?]]></description>
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		<title>By: SUPERMAN</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the pathetic steelers  should just stay home
because they will just lose and end up 6-8
on sunday i dont know why they got to change
the time of the game it is just going
to prolong the agony of getting defeated by the red hot packers which are yellow and green
and white and also won beat a team who beat the
pathetic steelers .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pathetic steelers  should just stay home<br />
because they will just lose and end up 6-8<br />
on sunday i dont know why they got to change<br />
the time of the game it is just going<br />
to prolong the agony of getting defeated by the red hot packers which are yellow and green<br />
and white and also won beat a team who beat the<br />
pathetic steelers .</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yawn....How insulting......
But What else can I expect.....
People/
Its the GREEN BAY PACKERS......
And its is and always has been....
GREEN AND GOLD  !
Dave Bob]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn&#8230;.How insulting&#8230;&#8230;<br />
But What else can I expect&#8230;..<br />
People/<br />
Its the GREEN BAY PACKERS&#8230;&#8230;<br />
And its is and always has been&#8230;.<br />
GREEN AND GOLD  !<br />
Dave Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Huggy Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huggy Bear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are what the Steelers need to do next year to have a winning season...my Christmas gift to Tomlin.
1. Build on a bigger offensive line to protect BEN.
2. Teach BEN not to hold on to the ball so long.
3. DEFENSE learns to finish games.
4. Learn to tackle on SPECIAL TEAMS.
5. Defensive backs QUIT giving 5 or more yards on coverages.
6. Non-concervative OFFENSIVE play calls.  I know what is coming from my livingroom.
Do these 6 things and you will get back to winning.  Damn, I can coach better than Tomlin did this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are what the Steelers need to do next year to have a winning season&#8230;my Christmas gift to Tomlin.<br />
1. Build on a bigger offensive line to protect BEN.<br />
2. Teach BEN not to hold on to the ball so long.<br />
3. DEFENSE learns to finish games.<br />
4. Learn to tackle on SPECIAL TEAMS.<br />
5. Defensive backs QUIT giving 5 or more yards on coverages.<br />
6. Non-concervative OFFENSIVE play calls.  I know what is coming from my livingroom.<br />
Do these 6 things and you will get back to winning.  Damn, I can coach better than Tomlin did this year.</p>
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		<title>By: LT10</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we all just agree to hate Bilichek.. and Fanamine?]]></description>
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		<title>By: tonyjb37</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I blame the Dan for this one, for hiring a bonehead like Mike Tomlin in the first place I mean the guy was an defensive coordinator for only two years with the minnesota vikings before being hired as the head coach of my beloved steelers. Everyone knows the only reason he won a superbowl is because he inherited a great football team. The guy cannot coach. I knew that it was only a matter of time before the guy started to falter. Its only gonna get worse before it gets better. We cant score on offense and we cant stop anybody on defense, how do we solve the problem? By hiring a football coach. And I mean a great one at that. I am in hell right now! Thanks Mike!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame the Dan for this one, for hiring a bonehead like Mike Tomlin in the first place I mean the guy was an defensive coordinator for only two years with the minnesota vikings before being hired as the head coach of my beloved steelers. Everyone knows the only reason he won a superbowl is because he inherited a great football team. The guy cannot coach. I knew that it was only a matter of time before the guy started to falter. Its only gonna get worse before it gets better. We cant score on offense and we cant stop anybody on defense, how do we solve the problem? By hiring a football coach. And I mean a great one at that. I am in hell right now! Thanks Mike!</p>
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		<title>By: Grumpy Old Man</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy Old Man]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol!  I get a kick when I read fans&#039;s comments about their team&#039;s success and other fans&#039; teams lack of success.  Get real - Like you have ANYTHING to do with this?  LOL
Pittsburgh fans are the LUCKIEST fans in the NFL; Patriot fans are a close second.  They are extremely fortunately to live in a town that has an excellent organization.  Your team does a great job recognizing talent and developing the talent.   Did you have anything to do with it?  HELL NO!!! You are just riding the coattails of a successfull organization.
Karma can be extremely fickle...Someday when the Bengals or the Browns are building their dynasty (don&#039;t laugh too hard), I&#039;m sure those fans will be sure to rub your collective noses in the sh1t that comes out of the average stillers fan mouth.
There are many people that root for the underdog and love to see the giant fall.
This year is not the stillers year...In the AFC north, it appears to be the Bengals year.  Will this become a trend?  we don&#039;t know, we&#039;ll come back next year to see.
But it was fun to see the LOWLY Cleveland Browns beat the stillers - and I loved seeing the stillers fans get depressed and angry.  Maybe its time for Karma to catch up with the most obnoxious fans in the NFL.
Cheers and Merry Christmas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol!  I get a kick when I read fans&#8217;s comments about their team&#8217;s success and other fans&#8217; teams lack of success.  Get real &#8211; Like you have ANYTHING to do with this?  LOL<br />
Pittsburgh fans are the LUCKIEST fans in the NFL; Patriot fans are a close second.  They are extremely fortunately to live in a town that has an excellent organization.  Your team does a great job recognizing talent and developing the talent.   Did you have anything to do with it?  HELL NO!!! You are just riding the coattails of a successfull organization.<br />
Karma can be extremely fickle&#8230;Someday when the Bengals or the Browns are building their dynasty (don&#8217;t laugh too hard), I&#8217;m sure those fans will be sure to rub your collective noses in the sh1t that comes out of the average stillers fan mouth.<br />
There are many people that root for the underdog and love to see the giant fall.<br />
This year is not the stillers year&#8230;In the AFC north, it appears to be the Bengals year.  Will this become a trend?  we don&#8217;t know, we&#8217;ll come back next year to see.<br />
But it was fun to see the LOWLY Cleveland Browns beat the stillers &#8211; and I loved seeing the stillers fans get depressed and angry.  Maybe its time for Karma to catch up with the most obnoxious fans in the NFL.<br />
Cheers and Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Wick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 08:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ ur mommas nuts who said:
December 11, 2009 3:37 PM
Do you know any football history?!? Obviously NOT!! Ever heard of Otto Graham?~!?~? The Browns won, oh, something like, 10 titles in a row in the 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s dumbass!!
And NO, I&#039;m not a Browns fans, just HATE the Squealers!!
---&gt; Yeah, and Egypt was once the most powerful military force the world had ever seen.
So.
And like the Clowns, the Egyptian military has been disrespected dogshit for eons.
In short, nobody gives a shit about football in the 1940&#039;s with lilly white 215-225 pound linemen and just as white cornerbacks that went a buck seventy and ran 4.8 forties.
Go kill yerself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ur mommas nuts who said:<br />
December 11, 2009 3:37 PM<br />
Do you know any football history?!? Obviously NOT!! Ever heard of Otto Graham?~!?~? The Browns won, oh, something like, 10 titles in a row in the 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s dumbass!!<br />
And NO, I&#8217;m not a Browns fans, just HATE the Squealers!!<br />
&#8212;> Yeah, and Egypt was once the most powerful military force the world had ever seen.<br />
So.<br />
And like the Clowns, the Egyptian military has been disrespected dogshit for eons.<br />
In short, nobody gives a shit about football in the 1940&#8242;s with lilly white 215-225 pound linemen and just as white cornerbacks that went a buck seventy and ran 4.8 forties.<br />
Go kill yerself.</p>
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		<title>By: Fanamine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fanamine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@LT10 and blackandblue
You two idiots prove my point exactly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LT10 and blackandblue<br />
You two idiots prove my point exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackandGold</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BlackandGold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s Gold as in Goldenrod you bunch of morons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Gold as in Goldenrod you bunch of morons.</p>
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		<title>By: LT10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LT10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im amazaed at how much money us steelers fans pay the officials to give us great calls yet they still miss the holding calls on Harrison and the cheap shots on Ward and Holmes.
To all of you jerkoff, champion-hating mediocre team following fans, deal with it. 6 trophies and the most consistent defense in recent history are all the things none of you can claim and your all jealous of it. Name a team who has more and I&#039;ll concede.
I agree, they faltered this year, however you will rue your words next season, as all of your teams know full well.. and Rodgers, I would not want to be in your shoes next sunday... let the hell reign]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im amazaed at how much money us steelers fans pay the officials to give us great calls yet they still miss the holding calls on Harrison and the cheap shots on Ward and Holmes.<br />
To all of you jerkoff, champion-hating mediocre team following fans, deal with it. 6 trophies and the most consistent defense in recent history are all the things none of you can claim and your all jealous of it. Name a team who has more and I&#8217;ll concede.<br />
I agree, they faltered this year, however you will rue your words next season, as all of your teams know full well.. and Rodgers, I would not want to be in your shoes next sunday&#8230; let the hell reign</p>
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		<title>By: Fanamine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fanamine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not a Redskins fan, but facts do not lie. If the DC area is so full of Steeler fans, then why are the Redskins the number one team in terms of revenue gained. In September, 2008 the skins had revenue worth 327 million. The Steelers had 216 million. The skins are the second most valuable franchise behind the Cowboys. The Steelers are ranked 18th. How do they earn so much revenue without a broad fan base as so many of you Steeler fans claim? Unless, of course, you are all just blowing smoke to hide your team having its head handed to it on a plate by a 1-11 team.  Few of you have the humility to accept the bitter pill and let others have their day. It is ironic that the more super bowls your team wins, the less classy you become.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a Redskins fan, but facts do not lie. If the DC area is so full of Steeler fans, then why are the Redskins the number one team in terms of revenue gained. In September, 2008 the skins had revenue worth 327 million. The Steelers had 216 million. The skins are the second most valuable franchise behind the Cowboys. The Steelers are ranked 18th. How do they earn so much revenue without a broad fan base as so many of you Steeler fans claim? Unless, of course, you are all just blowing smoke to hide your team having its head handed to it on a plate by a 1-11 team.  Few of you have the humility to accept the bitter pill and let others have their day. It is ironic that the more super bowls your team wins, the less classy you become.</p>
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		<title>By: chunky soupy sales</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Majik Man</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Supersuckers says:
Why do you make things up all the time?
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Kind of like you saying that you were never going to post on here again? Or that the players are paid directly by the NFL for playoff and Super Bowl appearances?
Also, on a previous thread when I bashed McCarthy, you praised his greatness as the mastermind behind the Saints&#039; early 2000&#039;s offensive prowess, and told me how great he was then. Why do you keep flip flopping? Can&#039;t make up your mind, Obama?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supersuckers says:<br />
Why do you make things up all the time?<br />
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Kind of like you saying that you were never going to post on here again? Or that the players are paid directly by the NFL for playoff and Super Bowl appearances?<br />
Also, on a previous thread when I bashed McCarthy, you praised his greatness as the mastermind behind the Saints&#8217; early 2000&#8242;s offensive prowess, and told me how great he was then. Why do you keep flip flopping? Can&#8217;t make up your mind, Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: ProudPburgPolack</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep - the Steelers stink this year. And they may lose their remaining 3 games as well. But the Browns will be playing two more terrible teams, KC and OAK,
so we&#039;ll see how they do against them - they may end up 2-14, which ain&#039;t anyhing to be bragging about Browns fans. Browns fans are the most amiable fans in the NFL - they cheer for the Browns and the teams that the Steelers are playing. What a pitiful sorry bunch of dreamers. The Bengals aren&#039;t going anywhere either - they barely beat the Browns and Steelers. The Ravens coach needs to find a job in a more suitable field, maybe in a hospital nursery or a &quot;whinery&quot; . I&#039;ve never seen a bigger crybaby. I&#039;d hate to be the ref on his sideline during a game. When an obvious penalty is called,  instead of yelling at his players for being inept, he whines at the refs.
All you morons debating about colors GROW UP!
Pull up your pink panties and go play in the bathtub! The Steelers will rebound and kick your team&#039;s asses next year. And the year after.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; the Steelers stink this year. And they may lose their remaining 3 games as well. But the Browns will be playing two more terrible teams, KC and OAK,<br />
so we&#8217;ll see how they do against them &#8211; they may end up 2-14, which ain&#8217;t anyhing to be bragging about Browns fans. Browns fans are the most amiable fans in the NFL &#8211; they cheer for the Browns and the teams that the Steelers are playing. What a pitiful sorry bunch of dreamers. The Bengals aren&#8217;t going anywhere either &#8211; they barely beat the Browns and Steelers. The Ravens coach needs to find a job in a more suitable field, maybe in a hospital nursery or a &#8220;whinery&#8221; . I&#8217;ve never seen a bigger crybaby. I&#8217;d hate to be the ref on his sideline during a game. When an obvious penalty is called,  instead of yelling at his players for being inept, he whines at the refs.<br />
All you morons debating about colors GROW UP!<br />
Pull up your pink panties and go play in the bathtub! The Steelers will rebound and kick your team&#8217;s asses next year. And the year after.</p>
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		<title>By: CurseofBoJackson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HOLEINONE, people are having fun at Steeler&#039;s fans expenses because your fanbase is the most annoying and petty in professional sports, period.  So suck it up and take it like a man pansy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOLEINONE, people are having fun at Steeler&#8217;s fans expenses because your fanbase is the most annoying and petty in professional sports, period.  So suck it up and take it like a man pansy.</p>
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		<title>By: Blitzburgh</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/11/steelers-embarrassed-by-loss-to-browns/#comment-382050</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not all Steelers Fans hiding out!  O-line sucks  D is playing like they are new at it. Poor Offensive and Defensive calls from the coaching staff. Clearly having lost to several of the worst teams in football we, at this point must consider ourselves one of the worst teams in football. Have not been this disapointed and ashamed since the Neil O&#039;donnell/Tomzak era.
Crap at moving the ball, Crap at holding opposing teams Crap, Crap, Crap.
WE SUCK!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all Steelers Fans hiding out!  O-line sucks  D is playing like they are new at it. Poor Offensive and Defensive calls from the coaching staff. Clearly having lost to several of the worst teams in football we, at this point must consider ourselves one of the worst teams in football. Have not been this disapointed and ashamed since the Neil O&#8217;donnell/Tomzak era.<br />
Crap at moving the ball, Crap at holding opposing teams Crap, Crap, Crap.<br />
WE SUCK!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SteelersForever</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brownies still the brownies 2-11]]></description>
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		<title>By: ur mommas nuts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ur mommas nuts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some dumb schmuck wrote....
&quot;while some of you are basking in the glory of ONE worthless win by a Browns team that is going nowhere and frankly has not gone anywhere in it&#039;s history.
I am just tellin ya. Enjoy the moment, it won&#039;t last long.&quot;
Do you know any football history?!? Obviously NOT!! Ever heard of Otto Graham?~!?~? The Browns won, oh, something like, 10 titles in a row in the 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s dumbass!!
And NO, I&#039;m not a Browns fans, just HATE the Squealers!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some dumb schmuck wrote&#8230;.<br />
&#8220;while some of you are basking in the glory of ONE worthless win by a Browns team that is going nowhere and frankly has not gone anywhere in it&#8217;s history.<br />
I am just tellin ya. Enjoy the moment, it won&#8217;t last long.&#8221;<br />
Do you know any football history?!? Obviously NOT!! Ever heard of Otto Graham?~!?~? The Browns won, oh, something like, 10 titles in a row in the 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s dumbass!!<br />
And NO, I&#8217;m not a Browns fans, just HATE the Squealers!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lord Humungus</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does Ben comment on Hines ward&#039;s comments?
Does the media interview Hines, then go tell Ben what he said to try to get some controversy going?
No wonder players hate the media, bunch of bottom feeders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Ben comment on Hines ward&#8217;s comments?<br />
Does the media interview Hines, then go tell Ben what he said to try to get some controversy going?<br />
No wonder players hate the media, bunch of bottom feeders.</p>
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		<title>By: Supersuckers</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Majik Man says:
December 11, 2009 3:12 PM
# Supersuckers says: December 11, 2009 1:21 PM
But he beat Brett Favre Majik. I am embarrased for you and all of your comments. Folks, this guy is the biggest know nothing on PFT.
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Ben threw for 175 yards and completed 53% of his passes. He didn&#039;t have much to do with that win, not nearly as much as the refs did or Taylor&#039;s drop did.
For the record, Supersuckers thinks Ted Thompson is the best football mind ever, just to give you an idea of his credibility, or lack thereof. He also thinks McCarthy is a great coach.
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I said neither and you know it.    Just because I support or coach and GM and like the way they are building this team doesn&#039;t mean I said Thompson is the best football mind ever or that McCarthy is a great coach.    in fact in a previous post it was my opinion that McCarthy still is on the hotseat.    Why do you make things up all the time?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majik Man says:<br />
December 11, 2009 3:12 PM<br />
# Supersuckers says: December 11, 2009 1:21 PM<br />
But he beat Brett Favre Majik. I am embarrased for you and all of your comments. Folks, this guy is the biggest know nothing on PFT.<br />
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Ben threw for 175 yards and completed 53% of his passes. He didn&#8217;t have much to do with that win, not nearly as much as the refs did or Taylor&#8217;s drop did.<br />
For the record, Supersuckers thinks Ted Thompson is the best football mind ever, just to give you an idea of his credibility, or lack thereof. He also thinks McCarthy is a great coach.<br />
&#8212;<br />
I said neither and you know it.    Just because I support or coach and GM and like the way they are building this team doesn&#8217;t mean I said Thompson is the best football mind ever or that McCarthy is a great coach.    in fact in a previous post it was my opinion that McCarthy still is on the hotseat.    Why do you make things up all the time?</p>
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		<title>By: ryanmc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank Burns says: &quot;...The difference is, Ben has carried his team before, Palmer can&#039;t. He&#039;s a game manager who needs big run games and a defense to do the scoring for him -- like against Detroit.&quot;
Ben has NEVER carried the Steelers, the Defense always has.
Here&#039;s the record for the Steelers D:
2004: 1
2005: 4
2006: 9
2007: 1
2008: 1
2009: 5
You&#039;ll note that the Steelers can&#039;t even get above .500 unless their D is 4th or better.  While other QBs like Palmer, Brees (before this season) etc. get criticized for not &quot;carrying&quot; their teams when they play with #30 ranked defensive teams, Big Ben can&#039;t even &quot;carry&quot; the #9 ranked defensive team above .500.
In 2005 Palmer led the league in TD passes and was QB for an 11-5 divison winning team with the #28 defense in the league.  When Ben has that record with that bad a defensive team then let&#039;s talk about &quot;carrying&quot; the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Burns says: &#8220;&#8230;The difference is, Ben has carried his team before, Palmer can&#8217;t. He&#8217;s a game manager who needs big run games and a defense to do the scoring for him &#8212; like against Detroit.&#8221;<br />
Ben has NEVER carried the Steelers, the Defense always has.<br />
Here&#8217;s the record for the Steelers D:<br />
2004: 1<br />
2005: 4<br />
2006: 9<br />
2007: 1<br />
2008: 1<br />
2009: 5<br />
You&#8217;ll note that the Steelers can&#8217;t even get above .500 unless their D is 4th or better.  While other QBs like Palmer, Brees (before this season) etc. get criticized for not &#8220;carrying&#8221; their teams when they play with #30 ranked defensive teams, Big Ben can&#8217;t even &#8220;carry&#8221; the #9 ranked defensive team above .500.<br />
In 2005 Palmer led the league in TD passes and was QB for an 11-5 divison winning team with the #28 defense in the league.  When Ben has that record with that bad a defensive team then let&#8217;s talk about &#8220;carrying&#8221; the team.</p>
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		<title>By: Majik Man</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#  Supersuckers says:  December 11, 2009 1:21 PM
But he beat Brett Favre Majik. I am embarrased for you and all of your comments. Folks, this guy is the biggest know nothing on PFT.
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Ben threw for 175 yards and completed 53% of his passes. He didn&#039;t have much to do with that win, not nearly as much as the refs did or Taylor&#039;s drop did.
For the record, Supersuckers thinks Ted Thompson is the best football mind ever, just to give you an idea of his credibility, or lack thereof. He also thinks McCarthy is a great coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  Supersuckers says:  December 11, 2009 1:21 PM<br />
But he beat Brett Favre Majik. I am embarrased for you and all of your comments. Folks, this guy is the biggest know nothing on PFT.<br />
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Ben threw for 175 yards and completed 53% of his passes. He didn&#8217;t have much to do with that win, not nearly as much as the refs did or Taylor&#8217;s drop did.<br />
For the record, Supersuckers thinks Ted Thompson is the best football mind ever, just to give you an idea of his credibility, or lack thereof. He also thinks McCarthy is a great coach.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinbender</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, they don&#039;t have anything to be embarrased about, it&#039;s everyone elses fault.
Just ask JaMarcus the dope!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, they don&#8217;t have anything to be embarrased about, it&#8217;s everyone elses fault.<br />
Just ask JaMarcus the dope!</p>
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		<title>By: joe6606</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blah. what an ugly way to end any hopes of the playoffs. Can&#039;t say I&#039;m surprised.
This season has been like watching Groundhog day. Same problems over, and over, and over.
If you cant&#039; beat 3 of the worst teams in the league..wow. I dont even know what to think about that, other than I hope they lose the remaining 3 to get some better draft positioning.
There are A LOT of holes, ones that wont be remedied just by getting a healthy Polamalu and Arron smith back. Ariens and the ST coach need to go. Farrior as well. OL needs big time upgrades, esp at center. And of course we need a new CB..or 2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blah. what an ugly way to end any hopes of the playoffs. Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m surprised.<br />
This season has been like watching Groundhog day. Same problems over, and over, and over.<br />
If you cant&#8217; beat 3 of the worst teams in the league..wow. I dont even know what to think about that, other than I hope they lose the remaining 3 to get some better draft positioning.<br />
There are A LOT of holes, ones that wont be remedied just by getting a healthy Polamalu and Arron smith back. Ariens and the ST coach need to go. Farrior as well. OL needs big time upgrades, esp at center. And of course we need a new CB..or 2.</p>
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		<title>By: SDCharger1969</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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