Comments on: Cris Carter on Randy Moss: "It was pathetic"

By: BringMossBack

BringMossBack — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:18:58 +0000

To: the Moss haters
You people are bastard people.
Moss will return to the Vikings in 2010, in exchange for Bernard Berrian and a 2nd round pick.
Favre-to-Moss is going to be amazing. 84 returns!

By: Skol Vikes

Skol Vikes — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:42:46 +0000

to all the morons who say that moss wanted to leave minnesota and that he hated minnesota.
Where do you come up with this shit?
Moss was TRADED. By an owner who didnt give a damn about football or winning. It was his kick in the nuts to the people of minnesota right before he sold the team a few months later. The new owner said he would have kept Randy, and paid him, if mcombs werent such a prick. The fact that Mcombs traded the best WR in history IN HIS PRIME for a 2nd rounder and a below average LB proves that mccombs was just looking out for himself and his bottom line. A little suspicious that he went to the raiders, always known for shady dealings. Wouldnt be surprised if Al davis and Red mccombs had a behind the scenes deal going on. If we shopped Randy around we could have easily got a 1st, and a 3rd. Probably could have got 2 firsts or more. This was when randy was in his prime. Mcombs knew he was going to sell the team and didnt want to pay randys bonus.

By: Skol Vikes

Skol Vikes — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:35:27 +0000

@rusH1023
Huh??? At the age of 25 i know nothing about the words flacid and over ripe.
Where does that even come from dude?
You know they make pills for that shit these days, you dont need to come on PFT to get out your frustration at not being able to get it up.
I just hate cheaters, and how some people can cheat and get away with it if they are media darlings. What happened to the days when you cheated and were seriously punished?
This isnt pee-wee football. This is the biggest, most profitable sport in the world. And they cheated in order to make insane amounts of money. There should have been a criminal investigation and criminal charges for all the money that they stole from the other teams that play by the rules.

By: sven_ftw

sven_ftw — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:26:34 +0000

TheBaySay says: December 14, 2009 4:51 PM
Cris Carter giving lectures on maturity… I guess you can never say you’ve heard of everything.
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say what you will about the guy, he was one of the most consistent, hard working, best performing receivers without a lick of trouble throughout his tenure in minny. he knew how to get to work.
when madden picked him for the all millenium team, he was sure to point out that there wasn’t a receiver in nfl history(including jerry rice, who he mentioned by name) that he’d rather have inside the red zone.

By: TheBaySay

TheBaySay — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:51:03 +0000

Cris Carter giving lectures on maturity… I guess you can never say you’ve heard of everything.

By: rusH1023

rusH1023 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:27:06 +0000

Skol Vikes-
You should stick to shuffleboard. You seem a little over-ripe (and flaccid at the same time) for football.

By: crimsonking52

crimsonking52 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:40:45 +0000

Sad, sad, and sad. When Moss wore the Viking Purple he would take plays off. He got lazy over time just as he is now. He’s got a job that many guys would do for free and he is pissing his life away. I never want to hear that man’s name mentioned in the same sentence with Chris Cater, Moss is a disgrace.

By: footballnut

footballnut — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:57:12 +0000

I agree with GO_EAGLEZ…the Pats pass to set up the run when it should be the other way around.
The Pats have been running the ball effectively before and during the last 5-6 weeks.
However, you will see them come out on the next series on first down either with the lead or not and go straight into the spread formation. Incomplete pass and they run on second down to get a managable third down, etc. It has become predictable as to what the Pats O will do, that’s been a the larger issue. No Coordinator and Bill has to stay with Pees as he is pissing himself trying to coordinate the D.
Lots of changes needed, but I think Moss is salvagable, Thomas is not.
And the Pats BTW for some of you morons are still in fact videotaping, like all of the teams do, every week…they’re just doing it from the designated location…idiots.

By: Hap

Hap — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:57:09 +0000

Patsfanlisa, did ya! AGAIN. Shouldn’t oughta be a Cheats fan if ya cant handle the heat ! Perhaps you should take up that with Beli-CHEAT.

By: Anarcho Purplism

Anarcho Purplism — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:44:24 +0000

Moss got traded because Red McCombs was going to be dumping the team & he didn’t want to pay any bonuses & etc. Heck, I am surprised McCombs didn’t take office furniture with him! Penny saved…..
It was always about $ with McCombs. Used car salesman to the core!
A big problem is that people forget that talent DOES NOT = leadership. Moss is really fast, tall and can catch a football. He’ll make plays, but he won’t be the hardest working guy on gameday or fire people up with his words. Its not who he is.
The problems that were in MN/Oak only make a non-leader worse. Put him on a team with leaders & he’s fine.
Here is what’ll happen…..some other leader will get him fired up to “prove” that he still is the bomb. The Pats will prob look to get him off next week. Good luck Buffalo!
It’s the same old Randy.

By: eklypse69

eklypse69 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:41:00 +0000

I called it way back when. I said “as soon as the Pats’ scores start to wane, and they start to lose games, the ‘new and improved’ Randy Moss will revert to his old B.S. ways, just like he did in MN and OAK.”
You can take the player out of the game, but you can’t take the ego out of the player. Once a crybaby, self-absorbed, self-serving jackass, always a crybaby, self-absorbed, self-serving jackass.

By: GO_EAGLEZ

GO_EAGLEZ — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:36:03 +0000

Hey @ vinnie1969
Fact is that the Pats win when the run effectivly and play ball control. I hate no doubt brady can win the game at the end, but a throwing contest isn’t the pats strength. Not right now anyway.

By: Real Football Fan

Real Football Fan — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:27:34 +0000

And the mystery here is? What amazed me was that the built up venom for Al Davis superceded people calling Moss on being what he is, a quitter. That’s unacceptable in sports, sorry.

By: Hong Kong Phooey

Hong Kong Phooey — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:27:15 +0000

nedirect says:
SERIOUSLY? the nonsense that spews from your computer should be banned from this website.
That’s kinda funny, you try to make me look like a moron and yet prove yourself to be a moron.
Moss’s legacy = Great talent + quitter/whiner/baby. You’re hopelessly biased if you think otherwise.
I know, I should be banned for that. Maybe you can file a RICO suit against me.

By: Occam

Occam — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:25:28 +0000

“One of the NFL best kept secrets over the years is that Moss has never been a complete NFL WR. He is not a great route runner, does not run all the routes on the NFL passing tree, is not ultra competitve and really is only interested in running the eight and nine route.”
No doubt, but I really don’t think that is a secret. Anyone who has seen Moss play one game has seen him take plays off, not block, etc.
Imagine what Moss could be if he had Jerry Rice’s work ethic.

By: rusH1023

rusH1023 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:12:38 +0000

Bubba Maximus:
I’m gonna go ad hominem on your ignorant ass.
Talk about ‘loser’ being in one’s DNA. I can only imagine the squalor of the room from which you’re typing from. I picture pigs making pig noises from outside the window and flies crawling across the fleshy, pube-ridden portion of your fat stomach, exposed through a dirty, ripped and mostly-disintegrated wife-beater. The stink that must permeate that place… I picture a neckbeard, rife with sweat and grime and Mrs. Bubba Maximus in the next room, scratching her crusty, stinky cooch with one of those plastic wands with a hand on the end.
Also, assface, there is no god. And if there were, he wouldn’t give a SHIT about America. Idiot.

By: jgras

jgras — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:11:47 +0000

This sounds just like MEshawn Johnson when he played for the Jets and Wayne Chrebet was getting all the balls thrown to him instead.

By: cvh2009

cvh2009 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:10:01 +0000

Rush, if you don’t know, you simply lack the tools. Now, that, by your own admission, should indeed be adequate.

By: Brohamma

Brohamma — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:09:58 +0000

Seriously guys, think about a couple things.
First off, Moss has really been focusing on getting his image in order after all the pre-New England stuff and to have it leaked that he was part of the Tardy-Four.. it knocks a guy with his past right back to square one in everyone’s eyes. One awww-shiat wipes out fifteen atta-boys.
Secondly, Moss has been asked to accept the role as a lure for the safety. Obviously, teams have to double him up but I would challenge any of you to accept the role of lining up on the flanks with the job of pulling coverage to your side so that the majority of the plays can be run underneath. This sounds like nothing but you keep getting chucked in the first five yards and running deep routes time after time after time. See if it eventually doesn’t catch-up with you.
The whole being late and sent home thing was leaked by A.T. Couple that with the above two things and watching Welker light it up game after game.. it gets old man.
THE FACT IS THAT NEW ENGLAND NEEDS AN OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!

By: sven_ftw

sven_ftw — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:03:32 +0000

cris may be a bit too opinionated, but he DOES know the wide receiver position. there’s a reason he does most of the talking and walk throughs in fitz’ receiver camp, even over jerry rice. when it comes to catching the football, and running a route, few have ever compared.
let’s not forget that he was approached to babysit randy as a condition of denny drafting him. brady agreed to baby sit him when things went well, and we all know how randy is when things don’t go well and he doesn’t have a baby sitter.
what’s there to debate? cris knows exactly what randy’s up to, and far better than we know what’s going on with randy. not to mention that he gave him the wake up call of what an elite workout routine is when he entered the league. anyone that followed him will verify what a rude awakening it was for moss…

By: Cappa

Cappa — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:50:41 +0000

Moss prolly just needed a little more practice time. =P

By: ToddGoodnow4

ToddGoodnow4 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:47:50 +0000

I will tell you what is pathetic… Someone who has a username on here with “pats suck, blow and cheat”. How pathetic is that!!!! haha. Must be a very very bored person. Are you even a fan of any team???

By: rusH1023

rusH1023 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:44:26 +0000

cvh2009:
I don’t even know what to make of this stupidity. Or how to begin to dismantle it. ‘You’re an idiot’ should suffice.

By: Cardsfan81

Cardsfan81 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:42:51 +0000

The Patrots have bigger issues than Randy Moss moving forward. Is he part of the problem? Sure is he. The larger issue is that the Belichick has lost the locker room. He no longer has five-o in the locker room (Bruschi,Vrable and Harrison etc.) to help police it and the results are the team no longer wins the close games and the players openly question their roles and questions the coaching staff.
But back to Moss. One of the NFL best kept secrets over the years is that Moss has never been a complete NFL WR. He is not a great route runner, does not run all the routes on the NFL passing tree, is not ultra competitve and really is only interested in running the eight and nine route.
Can you win with Moss ? Yes. The environment has to be near perfect and he needs to play with a WR (Wes Welker) or two that is wiling to do the dirty working underneath the coverage catching balls that Moss is not willing to.
Moss is what he has always been a HOF talent not willing to play to his talent level or sacrifice for the good of the organization that pays him and ultimately his teammates.

By: birdmancometh

birdmancometh — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:42:45 +0000

vinnie1969 – That was by far the best written comment of 2009.

By: Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay)

Asswipe Johnson (Pronounced Az-Wee-Pay) — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:39:33 +0000

The thing here is that Belichick has hitched his wagon to Moss and the Patriots passing game. The Pats without Moss are a .500 team at best.
We will soon see how all this turns out with the Moss/Thomas signings and subsequent move to let go of the foundation on defense in one Richard Seymour. Because with the monies put out to get and keep Moss/Thomas…there was more than enough there to keep Seymour.

By: The Hormel Row of Fame

The Hormel Row of Fame — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:24:31 +0000

@ professor
You are as big a douche as everyone suspects. Moss was TRADED, and not because he wanted to leave, because the previous owner was a douche as well (you two know each other?). Please take your angry little self to the garage & drink some paint thinner. No one likes you, and I’m pretty sure your boyfreind is cheating on you with a carrot.
To the adults on the page, Moss is a diva, plain & simple. Do I resprect the guy? Hell yeah. Do I respect his antics? Hell no. He looked lazy and unmotivated yesterday, and I was ashamed for him. He has always been one of my favorite players (regardless of team played for), but he sometimes has an attitude that is better suited for 12-yr-old girls & professor (redundant from a mental standpoint I guess). CC made his mistakes, but he played his ass off on the field and helped mentor Moss up as a rookie. CC isn’t preaching or comparing, merely doing his job…COMMENTATING.

By: Bubba Maximus

Bubba Maximus — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:16:04 +0000

Why is anybody surprised at Moss’s half-assed effort?
I mean, if the guy came out and “tore it up” against the Panthers, everybody would be praising Bill B. for motivating Moss … and you known damn well that Moss wasn’t going to let that happen. (“Yo, just keepin’ it real, dog. Word to your mother!”)
Anyway, for the umpteenth time: Moss is a loser.
I don’t care how many catches he makes, how many yards he gains, or how many TDs he scores.
The man is a loser. It’s what he is; it’s in his DNA.
Most of Moss’s supporters are losers, too, as evidenced by the fact that they keep making excuses for a guy who has a 12-year history of cheating fans by giving half-assed efforts.
In closing, let me reiterate one important fact: Moss is a loser.
Thank you all, and may God bless America!
P.S. Moss is a loser.

By: leatherneck

leatherneck — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:14:22 +0000

@Professor
I definitely did not trash Cris Carter. I can’t say enough good things about him. I am here to defend Randy Moss. Carter is a talker who says a lot. If CC says it, I believe it. Cris Carter hardly needs to be defended.
I am defending Randy Moss. I would go with everything CC said, except I would put more emphasis on “Something happened to Randy Moss.” Why was Moss’s play “pathetic”? Because something happened. What was it? We don’t know, but it probably was the thrown out of practice incident.
Randy Moss was traded by the Vikings to the Raiders for a first round draft choice and Napolean Harris. Moss did not demand a trade as far as I know. At the time of the trade, the Twin Cities media and some of the fans were down on Moss. That was unfortunate because relatively minor stuff got blown out of proportion.
Ironically, Moss got into a huge PR problem in Minnesota because a car he was driving in a horrible rainstorm, through a construction zone, in poor visibility, was going very slowly, but slightly nudged a traffic control officer, and she fell down. The traffic control officer was not hurt, if I remember correctly. Moss apologized and felt horrible about it. This turned into a huge PR nightmare for him. This pretty minor incident was blown completely out of proportion. Part of the issue was “marijuana residue” that was found in the car’s ashtray. Obviously, Moss made at least two mistakes right there, and he has taken corrective action in his life.
Last week Moss was driving to work at the Patriots facility through a horrible snowstorm, and drove safely all the way to practice. Then he got treated like garbage by BB who apparently wanted Moss to speed and weave in and out of traffic to avoid being a few minutes late.
While Moss was not himself on Sunday, that is plain, and that is what Cris Carter said, I think Bellichick deserves some blame. You don’t treat Randy Moss like that. He deserves better.

By: cvh2009

cvh2009 — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:14:14 +0000

Professor: You need to do some research on the subject because you are completely misinformed and misguided. CC is a complete ass. Heck of a player, but an ass.