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Packers sign Chillar to long-term contract

Even without Aaron Kampman, the Packers have found more than enough quality pieces at linebacker for their new 3-4 defense.

Now they are making sure they keep one of those pieces in town for a long time.

The Packers re-signed Brandon Chillar to a four-year, $21 million contract, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.  $7 million is guaranteed.

Chillar is a key member of Green Bay’s special teams, and a big part of Green Bay’s nickel defense.  He often rotates at inside linebacker with A.J. Hawk and has started four games.  This is not a special teamer’s contract, and it’s worth wondering how this deal could affect Hawk down the line.

Hawk is owed $4.6 million in 2010, and then will have to be restructured before 2011 when it jumps to $10 million.  Nick Barnett is owed roughly the same amount as Hawk in 2010.

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  1. GB3Pack4 says: Dec 14, 2009 11:23 AM

    This is great.
    But don’t forget about Nick Collins.

  2. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 11:33 AM

    Cue the TT haters..

  3. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 11:36 AM

    Hawk is finally starting to play like NFL linebacker but its not enough. Aj is gone in my opinion.

  4. jamesz23 says: Dec 14, 2009 11:36 AM

    Resign Nick Collins and Ryan Pickett next.

  5. leftdust says: Dec 14, 2009 11:41 AM

    In stating the obvious, Hawk would be considered a mild success if he were drafted in the 4th round. Chillar’s height and athleticism makes him the future over AJ. And all this talk about TT being a genius? If not for Rodgers falling into his lap (a trained chimp could have put the card in), TT’s draft history in the top rounds is not exactly noteworthy.

  6. Calistin says: Dec 14, 2009 11:58 AM

    Collins and Pickett plz TT. Tausch for a veteran presence behind Lang at RT next year wouldn’t be bad either.
    Glad to get Chillar locked up. Definitely a Packer player all around and was having a good start before he broke his hand. Only 26 I believe as well.
    Hawk isn’t going anywhere. TT loves LB’s too much. He was one. He turned a LB into one of our starting FBs. He turned an LB into our 3rd string TE and special teams ace. He stockpiles LB talent like McCarthy stockpiles Big Macs in his mouth. Hawk is solid and only morons call him a bust.

  7. Ross'sSweetMinus says: Dec 14, 2009 11:59 AM

    great signing! Hell of a player.

  8. Emoney says: Dec 14, 2009 12:05 PM

    Collins, Pickett, T. Williams, Jolly, Bigby, Spitz, and then maybe give Colledge a few pennies.
    That’s the order of importance.

  9. dank067 says: Dec 14, 2009 12:05 PM

    If a trained chimp could have put the card in for Rodgers, then I would guess that almost all of the 20+ GMs who passed on Rodgers have a lot of explaining to do

  10. etronsman says: Dec 14, 2009 12:10 PM

    leftdust:
    What about C. Matthews and B. Raji? Both are certainly contributing this year.

  11. irishgary says: Dec 14, 2009 12:16 PM

    Leftdust:
    Folks like you are becoming very boring. Please would just one of you TT haters tell me who you want the replacement to be. Tell me a GM who has done a better job. Please get over your love affair with Brett and get a grip.
    Jennings, Collins, Matthews, signing Woodson, Picket. All great moves.
    Remeber Jamal Reynolds he was a Ron Wolf pick and an incredible bust.
    So please tell me who you want to be GM and why.

  12. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 12:24 PM

    leftdust says:
    December 14, 2009 11:41 AM
    In stating the obvious, Hawk would be considered a mild success if he were drafted in the 4th round. Chillar’s height and athleticism makes him the future over AJ. And all this talk about TT being a genius? If not for Rodgers falling into his lap (a trained chimp could have put the card in), TT’s draft history in the top rounds is not exactly noteworthy.

  13. Tears_of_a_Favre says: Dec 14, 2009 12:35 PM

    Hey, why are you guys picking on one of my homers/ballwashers…leftnut? Leave him alone or I’ll start crying/retiring again. You’ve been warned.

  14. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 12:37 PM

    I think Hawk could stay but not at the salaries dur. Something like 4.7 nex year and 10 million in 2011. He would have to renegotiate to be more fitting to the contributions he is making to the team. hawk sucked up until about a month ago.

  15. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 12:46 PM

    irishgary
    Reynolds was a Sherman pick, not Wolf.

  16. jamesz23 says: Dec 14, 2009 12:52 PM

    Ron Wolf also drafted Jon Michaels, Terrell Buckley in the 1st rd. I think Wolf was a great GM but it helped having an all-star coaching staff in the 90′s too to develop all the mid & late round picks that turned into solid players.

  17. Bob Nelson says: Dec 14, 2009 1:17 PM

    More than anything this is a sign that the Packers think there will be no quick CBA compromise.
    There will be an uncapped year and there is no need to waste money on guys with less than 6 years in the league.
    It looks like a high revenue team like the Packers is spending money, counting on the CBA being gone.
    Plus as the leagues youngest team the Packers have more players with less than 6 seasons in the NFL and are well set for the first few years of no salary cap in good economic shape.
    In contrast the revenue bottom feeder vikings forwarded money from an uncapped year into a capped year.
    Ted Thompson is approaching the no salary cap era with a very good strategy.

  18. irishgary says: Dec 14, 2009 1:19 PM

    Majik Man,
    Ron Wolf retired in June 2001
    Jamal Reynolds drafted April 2001

  19. ACDC84 says: Dec 14, 2009 1:22 PM

    I’m not so sure about this. $5 million a year for a guy that’s only on the field for certain packages seems like a lot. A solid player, no doubt, but if Chillar is getting $5 million a year imagine what a pro-bowl corner like Collins is going to want.
    Hawk has been a bust, based on where he was drafted and his lack of game-changing plays, but he has been playing pretty well for the past two months and he was playing out of position as the WLB in the 4-3.

  20. Mountaindont says: Dec 14, 2009 1:25 PM

    Ron Wolf was a great GM and should be in the Hall of Fame. Every GM has their share of busts. Wolf excelled a drafting good talent in the later rounds. Wolf did have a great coaching staff in the 90`s but remember Wolf hired Holmgren and traded for Favre.

  21. nerd says: Dec 14, 2009 1:28 PM

    Big Okie, baby!

  22. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 1:31 PM

    Majik Man says:
    December 14, 2009 12:46 PM
    irishgary
    Reynolds was a Sherman pick, not Wolf.
    —-
    Antuan Edwards, Buckley, Jon Michaels all first round Wolf picks Majik. And Wolf was around for the Reynolds pick as they were transitioning the GM position. I am embarrased for you.

  23. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 14, 2009 1:32 PM

    cheddar is beddar says:
    Cue the TT haters..
    ____________________________________
    Okay, I’m here.
    dank067 says:
    If a trained chimp could have put the card in for Rodgers, then I would guess that almost all of the 20+ GMs who passed on Rodgers have a lot of explaining to do
    ____________________________________
    You’re absolutely right. They do. Big blunder by the entire league there. Although to be fair, Rodgers wasn’t much until he sat and learned for three years. McCarthy is so-so as HC, but he is/was a quarterback guru. If he had stayed in SF, Alex Smith would probably look like a very good pick right now too.
    Suck says:
    Ron Wolf wasnt exactly a 1st rd guru either.
    ____________________________________
    No he most certainly was not, but he managed to compensate for his shortcomings (and the fact that the draft is a crap shoot anyway) by making numerous trades and signing FA’s like White, Robinson, and Rison. Result: Championship.
    THAT is how a good GM operates. I only wish Thompson had learned that during his years as a Wolf assistant. Just imagine how good this team could be right now..

  24. packers4life says: Dec 14, 2009 1:32 PM

    “irishgary
    Reynolds was a Sherman pick, not Wolf.”
    Actually Wolf did draft Reynolds that year. It was his last first round pick. He annouced he was going to retire in February 2001 but was going to stay through the NFL Draft in April and retire in June. Sherman took over from there.
    Anyway, re-signing Brandon Chillar was a good move. He is a hell of a linebacker and is excellent in coverage as well as on special teams. Though he has been banged up this season.

  25. JJCheesehead says: Dec 14, 2009 1:41 PM

    Haha…are you clowns really comparing Wolf to Thompson. Wolf has been out of football for 5+ years and is getting interest from multiple teams. That isnt even a real question.
    I dont know how or why the Packers signed Barnett to his current deal. They must have wanted the best player in the league at making tackles 8 yards downfield locked up long term. Seriously Barnett put your damn sword away and start making plays on a regular basis. Then you can come up with a cool celebration after tackles for loss/sacks which you rarely currently get.
    Another thing, Do we really have an offensive lineman on the roster outside of Lang that will be on the roster in 5 years. I think not. Start over on that unit.
    Finally, PUT AARON KAMPMAN AT DEFENSIVE END! I dont care if we run a 3-4! He is 275 and has one of the best motors in the NFL. Quit telling me he is undersized. He CANNOT cover anyone. He looks lost in space, and on half the plays of the game, you are taking one of the most balaned ends in the NFL out of his element. It is amazing the Packers are this good.
    One last thing. After yesterday, I think Woodson is a clear-cut top 3 for the MVP. The guy doesnt get beat, he makes tackles behind the line in the run game, and can put pressure on the QB in blitz packages. Sharper just gets INTs this seasson and got beat bad yesterday, Woodson does it all.

  26. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 1:45 PM

    Irish
    Wolf may have been still acting GM, but who do you think had more pull in the draft, the guy on the way out, or the guy on the way in?

  27. dobolina says: Dec 14, 2009 1:56 PM

    # Beer Cheese Soup says:
    No he most certainly was not, but he managed to compensate for his shortcomings (and the fact that the draft is a crap shoot anyway) by making numerous trades and signing FA’s like White, Robinson, and Rison. Result: Championship.
    THAT is how a good GM operates. I only wish Thompson had learned that during his years as a Wolf assistant. Just imagine how good this team could be right now..
    ———————–
    Free agency is considerably different now than it was back then. And TT hasn’t done too horribly in FA (Woodson, Pickett, Chillar). Trading of players doesn’t happen as often now as it did when Wolf was GMing the Packers, either. TT has done plenty of trading when it involves draft picks.

  28. Rachel Uchitel says: Dec 14, 2009 2:01 PM

    Not all of the 20 gm’s that passed on Rodgers had needs to fill at QB. Argument can be made every year on a different player. Is what it is
    that said, A great pick by TT
    Skol Vikes

  29. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 2:03 PM

    Beer Cheese,
    Pickett, Woodson, Chillar, Grant, moving up to get Matthews, Bigby, Green, all Thompson Free agent or trade acquisistions. I am sure I am missing some. Championship? Let’s wait and see huh?

  30. PackFaninPackLand says: Dec 14, 2009 2:04 PM

    You gotta love all the Ted Thompson nuthuggers that support EVERYTHING he does, not matter how stooooopid !
    Like GB3Pack4 “This is great”
    No, it’s not. It’s not like the gave him (in NFL terms) a cheap contract – say $11-12 MIL for 5 years. They paid him TOP BUCK ! For a damn back-up. Chillar was our #1 priority in contracts ??? Not Collins, not Jolly, or even one of the O-Linenen ???
    Can anyone name another back-up LB in the NFL that will make $4.2 MIL per year, over the next 5 years ??? NO. This is a terrible contract, for a very average player.
    ——————————-
    Ross’sSweetMinus “great signing! Hell of a player”
    Really ??? Name all those great plays he’s made this year … you know, when he wasn’t hurt ??? The 2 TD’s he got torched for vs. the lowly Rams ??? Chillar is perhaps the only player in the NFL that can say that this year !
    ———————————
    Or the ill-informed:
    Majik Man “irishgary – Reynolds was a Sherman pick, not Wolf.”
    Ahhh, no he wasn’t. In 2001 Wolf picked Jamal Reynolds, plus Robert Ferguson, Bhawoh Jue, and Torrance Marshall !
    Majik Man – you can’t “correct” someone and then be wrong yourself – especially when the person you “corrected” was indeed correct.
    Good grief.
    —————————-
    Way to go Ted. Way to lock-up our back-up Mike Linebacker. Woo Hoo !!! Is that long-term deal for Derrick Martin far behind ????

  31. RickeyRick says: Dec 14, 2009 2:12 PM

    I hate TT and there is one reason. Part of his Job is to evaluate talent. He misjudged the longevity of Favre. He didn’t believe he could play in 2 years and obviously he was wrong. Now, instead of being 11-2 with two victories over the vikings with Tavaris at QB we have 2 losses against them. He cost us at least a home playoff game and maybe a bye. Selfish guy who wants people to remember “Ted Thompson’s Packers” rather than “Brett Favre’s Packers.”

  32. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 2:13 PM

    Forgotten is the fact that TT initially signed Chillar to a 2 year contract for pennies to sort of test the waters I guess one could say. Chillar has since excelled in what he has been asked to do, and in return TT has rewarded him. That approach is alot better than an initial 5 year contract and the player not panning out. It’s important to keep these types of players around. He is not a true “back up” like some suggest because of all the different personnel packages Capers uses. It’s a good move and only true Pack fans realize this. Next up, Pickett.

  33. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 14, 2009 2:15 PM

    ACDC84 says:
    December 14, 2009 1:22 PM
    I’m not so sure about this. $5 million a year for a guy that’s only on the field for certain packages seems like a lot. A solid player, no doubt, but if Chillar is getting $5 million a year imagine what a pro-bowl corner like Collins is going to want.
    —————————–
    Wow, and here I thought Collins played safety. Is this Pervy?

  34. JJCheesehead says: Dec 14, 2009 2:18 PM

    I have to say I agree with this being a garbage signing. I think Chillar and Scott Wells now have the 2 most useless contract on the Packers. Poppinga is right behind them, and Harrell is in his own world when it comes to wasted money.

  35. Ruvell100 says: Dec 14, 2009 2:29 PM

    @Beer Cheese- In all fairness, you can’t say “THAT is how a good GM operates.” Wolf and TT definitely operate differently, but there is more than one way to skin a cat. Most Packer fans will forever love Wolf because of the Favre aquisition, Reggie, Keith Jackson, etc and mostly since we went to 2 SB’s and won a championship He made some ballsy moves and it brought the Title back to it’s rightful place.
    That said, Wolf had plenty of failings and no one wants to talk about missed playoff appearances immediately following Holmgren’s departure, Ray Rhodes or his generally poor draft record. All is forgiven.
    I doubt TT haters will ever go away. Ever. Despite his lack of FA activity, he’s put together a very talented roster. #1 D in the league and outside of Kampman, Harris and Jenkins, they are all his guys. I was pissed about the Moss and Gonzo deals falling though, but you can’t argue with 2 contract renegotiations with Driver, Jennings (great pick), Jones, Nelson, or Finley, so in the end, who was right?
    We’re 9-4. We were a game away from playing in a SB 2 years ago. Is it not possible for this team to make a run in the playoffs this year? But you still have people out there who want him gone. They’ll want him and MM gone even if they win a Super Bowl. I can’t understand that.

  36. JJCheesehead says: Dec 14, 2009 2:35 PM

    I think Pickett is getting old. If he is resigned, it will be for 2 more years max. After that it will be a year-by-year basis. There is no way they pony up this kind of contract for Pickett.

  37. PackFaninPackLand says: Dec 14, 2009 2:42 PM

    More ill-informed comments by the Ted Thompson nuthuggers:
    ————————————
    Re: cheddar is beddar: “Forgotten is the fact that TT initially signed Chillar to a 2 year contract for pennies to sort of test the waters”
    FACT – In 2008 the Packers signed Chillar to a two-year, $5.2 million contract.
    $5.2 million is “pennies” ???? Are you Bill Gates ??? I wonder how much YOU make !
    Plus, what did he do to “earn” the $5.2 Million so far, much less warrant a 5 year extension ???
    ————————————-
    Re: Majik Man “Wolf may have been still acting GM, but who do you think had more pull in the draft, the guy on the way out, or the guy on the way in?”
    Hey Majik man, instead of being a “man” and just admitting you made a mistake, you compound one idiotic comment by trying to justify it with yet ANOTHER. What a dope.
    ————————————-
    Re: packers4life: “re-signing Brandon Chillar was a good move. He is a hell of a linebacker and is excellent in coverage as well as on special teams.”
    Again I say, name all those great plays by Chillar ??? The ONE sack he had this year … in week one vs. DUHHH Bears ???

  38. irishgary says: Dec 14, 2009 2:43 PM

    Majik,
    Wolf may have been still acting GM, but who do you think had more pull in the draft, the guy on the way out, or the guy on the way in?
    Wolf was God in GB at the time. I think he had more pull and it was his pick. Sherman was also his pick as coach and GM replacement.
    My point is that everyone criticizes TT, but they never say who his replacement should be. Just a bunch of complaining. I think the guy has done a good job. Still the youngest team in the league and they have improved on defense all year.
    Thinkgs to build on.

  39. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 2:44 PM

    Always the knowledgable arm chair GM’s critiquing their way through another season. When does it get old? I’m sure 1265 is always accepting applications for vacancies. Just make sure to include ‘sitting on my couch on Sundays and criticizing on Mondays’ under “professional work experience”.

  40. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 2:49 PM

    http://www.packers.com/draft/2001/
    Click the link, then read the very last sentence, Sherman was right there with Wolf for the draft. Wolf on the way out, and Sherman on the way in, who do you think really called the shots in the GB war room? There’s even a nice picture of them working together.

  41. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 2:54 PM

    PackFaninPackLand says:
    Before calling someone a dope, maybe you should realize how big of one you’re being. Calling me a Thompson nuthugger is like calling Mike McCarthy a good coach, it just couldn’t be more wrong. And check the link above, Sherman and Wolf worked the draft “together”.

  42. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 3:05 PM

    Ruvell,
    I am so ashamed at guys like Beer Cheese and Majik because it all comes down to the Favre crap. Cheddar, you are right on. We do not know what happens behind closed doors. We really know very little. Majik makes more factually incorrect statents that I have ever seen guys. Serious.

  43. ACDC84 says: Dec 14, 2009 3:11 PM

    “Finally, PUT AARON KAMPMAN AT DEFENSIVE END! I dont care if we run a 3-4! He is 275 and has one of the best motors in the NFL. Quit telling me he is undersized. He CANNOT cover anyone. He looks lost in space, and on half the plays of the game, you are taking one of the most balaned ends in the NFL out of his element. It is amazing the Packers are this good. ”
    Well you’re half-right, and that’s why Kampman has played his last snap for GB. He was rather ineffective as OLB in the 3-4, and he’ll go to a 4-3 team next year and do well.
    The 3-4 is totally different than the 4-3. The three linemens’ only real duties are to tie up the five O-linemen to allow the linebackers to make plays. DEs in the 3-4 are expected to rush the passer and get alot of sacks. That’s what the OLBs are for.
    Don’t get me wrong, Kampman has been one of my favorite players and I wish him well with his career, but the switch to the 3-4 is obviously a HUGE upgrade and if it means one of our best defensive players can’t be a huge part of it, well, it’s still worth it.

  44. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 3:28 PM

    Majik,
    You are right, Wolf and Sherman were side by side for the ’01 draft. But like many before me, you are wrong about who wanted Reynolds. Just get over it. Wolf stayed around long enough to transition Sherman through that draft. That was his only intent of sticking around. If it wasn’t Wolf’s pick, why would he stick around that long? Why try to press an issue where you are wrong?
    PackFaninPackLand,
    5.2 over 2 years is a relatively cheap contract by NFL standards these days, even for those FA’s who have a chance to start, unlike a Duke Preston or Frank Walker. So yea, I would consider it pennies. But I’m not shocked at your dumbfounded reaction, Green Bay is littered with too many of you lapdog fans that just go by whatever garbage you read from all the “experts” from the Press Gazette. Like I said, submit that app to 1265.

  45. footballrulz says: Dec 14, 2009 3:34 PM

    @ Majik
    Calling me a Thompson nuthugger is like calling Mike McCarthy a good coach, it just couldn’t be more wrong.
    ______________
    ROTFLMAO
    Someone thought YOU were a TT nuthugger?!

  46. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 3:38 PM

    # Supersuckers says: December 14, 2009 3:05 PM
    Majik makes more factually incorrect statents that I have ever seen guys. Serious.
    ________________
    Tell me again, Super, how much does the NFL directly pay the players of post season teams? And what, exactly, is a statent?

  47. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 3:40 PM

    Cheddar,
    I have said the same thing to many on here including Majik. If you coud do a better job then you would be doing it. instead they do not have a answer for why they arent in green bay calling the shots and no answer for who would be a better replacement. I mean for Christs sake they are 9-4.

  48. Ruvell100 says: Dec 14, 2009 3:42 PM

    Majik- Why are you pressing this issue about whether Sherman or Wolf was responsible for Reynolds? 1st round busts happen all the time.
    You don’t have to defend Wolf’s honor. He had his faults, but you would be hard pressed to find 5 Packer fans who would say he was a bad GM. We all remember the success of the mid-90′s. Some people have just moved on. It is 2009.

  49. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 3:57 PM

    footballrulz,
    I know, what the hell, right? He did it twice, too.
    Ruvell, I’m not trying to press it, just keep getting questioned on it. I’m aware that everyone has busts, I had never been more pissed than when they passed on Troy Vincent to draft T.Buck. I get it.

  50. Supersuckers says: Dec 14, 2009 4:03 PM

    Majik,
    They are paid for each level they advance.

  51. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 4:10 PM

    Super
    Paid by the TEAM, not the league.

  52. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 14, 2009 4:25 PM

    Ruvell100 says:
    We’re 9-4. We were a game away from playing in a SB 2 years ago. Is it not possible for this team to make a run in the playoffs this year? But you still have people out there who want him gone. They’ll want him and MM gone even if they win a Super Bowl. I can’t understand that.
    ____________________________________
    I can’t either, honestly. I’ve said this before, if we win the Super Bowl, I’ll personally mail Ted an apology letter for everything I’ve said.
    Anything is possible, (see Arizona last year) but likely is another matter. 9-4 is respectable, I’m happy to take it. I am going to continue bringing the hate until I see some postseason success though. As you said, this is Ted’s team now. His five-year overhaul is complete.
    If it’s not a GREAT team, after all the changes he’s made, he’s not a good GM. Then we need to find someone else. To everyone who asks who that should be-I like Ruskell personally, he already made one Ted team competitive, but there are others out there too. With the exception of Millen, I think almost anything is an improvement.

  53. TheBaySay says: Dec 14, 2009 4:40 PM

    Looks like the plan is for Chillar to take on a larger role in the next couple of years. And Bob Nelson, since you take plenty of crap on this site (and I certainly don’t agree with a lot of the stuff you say), props for pointing out what could be an important matter re: the Pack being a very young team.

  54. PackFaninPackLand says: Dec 14, 2009 4:43 PM

    Majik Man – why don’t you just change your name to Majik Woman because you are acting like one by being incapable of admitting you were wrong, and moving on. Just like Ted Thompson – who hasn’t even admitted Justin Harrell was a mistake. What a sad and pathetic woman, Majik Woman must be.
    And, no, I didn’t say YOU were a Ted Thompson nuthugger (learn to read). Hence the “or the ill-informed” distinction. I was criticizing YOU and your idiotic comment that Jamal Reynolds was drafted by Sherman, an idiotic comment that you CONTINUE to try to defend instead of just being a man and admitting you made a mistake. Sad. But, way to “try” and change what was said … not !
    Majik Woman’s latest “attempt” to prove herself correct (even though wrong) is that Sherman was sitting next to him in the war room. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a clown – ALL HC’s sit next to the GM in the draft day war room. Good lord. Go follow the Bears or somebody else and doesn’t know any better than this drivel !
    ————————————
    cheddar is beddar – first he says Chillar signed for “pennies”, NOW, since that idiotic comment has been proven wrong, the arguement NOW has been changed to “5.2 over 2 years is a relatively cheap contract”.
    Ummmm, no, $2.6 MIL a year for a back-up LB is bad, and $5.25 a year (which is what his new contract is for) is even worse. You know, like TWICE as bad !!!
    Are you just Majik Woman with another ID ?? Maybe $5.2 MIL a year for a back-up LB is “nickels” to cheddar is beddar ??? Good grief.
    You’re calling me a “Lapdog fan” for Ted or the GBPG ??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that’s rich. I’ll have to pass that along to my Packer buddies who know that I hate Ted Thompson with the red hot passion ofa thousand suns ! The Packers beat media at the GBPG, the State Urinal here in Madison, and the Urinal/Sentinel in Milwaukee are the lapdogs for Satan, I mean Ted Thompson ! Get a grip on reality.
    ————————————
    Lates idiocy by Majik Woman – that players are paid in the post-season by the team rather than the NFL itself ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a dope. PLEASE go follow the Bears !
    Can’t wait to see what “intelligent” comments there’ll be next by Majik Woman !

  55. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 14, 2009 4:45 PM

    Suck says:
    I am so ashamed at guys like Beer Cheese and Majik because it all comes down to the Favre crap.
    ____________________________________
    Will you please quit grouping me in with that worthless traitor.
    My hate has nothing to do with Favre. I hated Ted LONG before the drama queen became a Queen, and I don’t hate him any more or less now than I did then.
    Ted handled the Favre situation as best he could. I don’t blame him for that; it was an impossible situation. Keeping Favre was not worth losing Rodgers. Ted knew that, and he did what he had to. That may be his best decision to date (not that there are many good ones to choose from).
    I hate Thompson for somehow deciding a perennial playoff contender needed a Detroit-style overhaul, for putting his own ego ahead of what was good for the team, for insisting on building through the draft even when it clearly wasn’t working, among other things.
    The list goes on and on. It does NOT include Favre however. I’m a Packer fan. Majik isn’t. Get it right.

  56. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 5:13 PM

    PackFan,
    Apparently you either didn’t read my entire post or did not comprehend it, maybe both. I said that yes, I would consider the relatively cheap 2/5.2 contract to be “pennies”. Is that hard to digest? Maybe your fellow lapdog Packer buddies can convince you to submit that application.
    And Beer Cheese, the Packers pmay have been perennial playoff contenders around the time TT arrived, but let’s not kid ourselves. The division was weak, we could have a home playoff game after a 9-7 season, and they simply weren’t that good. Sherman left with a roster full of clowns. It was a joke how bad the defense was at that point, there was absolutely no depth at any position, and Sherman handcuffed the Packers with the ridiculous contracts he gave Joe Johnson and Cletidus Hunt. I don’t care if you hate TT, but dude, the roster DID need a serious overhaul when he arrived. That much is true. Maybe you could provide some other specific examples of your hatred for TT, like when you say he put his own ego ahead of what was good for the team. I just don’t understand that statement at all. Who should he have kept, who should he have let go, who should he have drafted, who should he have signed, re-signed? It’s easy to make shallow claims like that without providing reasons to back up your opinions.

  57. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 5:17 PM

    PackFaninPackLand says: December 14, 2009 2:42 PM
    More ill-informed comments by the Ted Thompson nuthuggers:
    ________________
    That is your direct quote, word for word, copy and pasted. There is no “or.”
    As for you attacking my saying that the teams pay the player for the postseason, not the NFL, this has already been debated on here, and it was proven that the money is, in fact, payed to the players, by the team. Look it up, or just ask Supersuckers, as he’s the one I have previously proven wrong on this.
    And my Sherman/ Wolf thing had nothing to do with them just “sitting together”, it was clearly stated, in black and white, that the two of them worked together, as in one working unit, to do the draft.
    Now please, continue to “prove me wrong.” It’s become quite entertaining.

  58. badfish69 says: Dec 14, 2009 5:18 PM

    There were many teams that year that would have taken Hawk that high. I can’t see how that is Thompson’s fault. Harrel was a definite mistake, but you can’t label Hawk a bust yet. He seems to be thriving in this scheme so I’ll give him a little more time.

  59. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 5:23 PM

    Beer Cheese
    How quick you turn, just 5 weeks ago, we were on the same page, thinking TT and MM were awful. I stand my ground, you let 5 wins in a row over bad teams change your mind, and I’m the traitor. Always thought you were a decent guy, didn’t know you were an Obama style flip flopper. People accuse me of wagon hopping, yet this is your 3rd time this season. You’ve gone from Packers rule, to Pack suck and fire everyone, to Packers are great again. What’s the deal?

  60. Ruvell100 says: Dec 14, 2009 5:30 PM

    @Beer- If you will continue to hate TT until you see continued playoff success, I can’t imagine how you felt with Sherman. You know, we’ve won 3 playoff games in 11 years, one with TT/MM at the helm. This franchise hasn’t been a perennial playoff winner since the mid-90′s.
    I’m not saying we should settle for mediocrity, but do you think the ’05 would have competed for a Super Bowl? No Chance. Why not try to build a team that can contend for a long time, with a real shot. The Wahle and Rivera moves proved to be good moves. Javon Walker never amounted to shit after he left GB.
    And where do you even get off saying the draft isn’t working. Jenkins, Barnett, Clifton, Tauscher, Wells and Driver (Harris and Kampman, though they have been conveniently gone during this run of wins) are literally the only contributors that are not Thompson draft picks mixed with a few FA’s. Most them have been re-signed by Thompson during his tenure, so we have had no real significant FA losses.
    His misses in the draft look bad, but look at every team’s drafts in the last 5 years and you could say every GM has failed.

  61. TheBaySay says: Dec 14, 2009 5:33 PM

    My (admittedly not always reliable) memory is that when it became clear that Reynolds was a bust, Wolf and Sherman both said that choosing him had been mostly the other guy’s idea. I doubt that clear “credit” will ever be established there.

  62. footballrulz says: Dec 14, 2009 5:56 PM

    I certainly hope this does not create a “scism”in our locker room.

  63. packers4life says: Dec 14, 2009 6:03 PM

    “9-4 is respectable, I’m happy to take it.”
    I agree. Even if we are not successful in the playoffs, I am happy that the Packers improved from 6-10 to a no worse than 9-7.
    “Way to go Ted. Way to lock-up our back-up Mike Linebacker. Woo Hoo !!! Is that long-term deal for Derrick Martin far behind ????”
    You do realize that he rotates w/ A.J. Hawk, don’t you? and if you watched any games last season, you would know that Brandon Chillar was a solid free agent pickup. And there is really no such thing as a ‘backup’ in our linebacker core since the Packers pretty much rotate them all quite a lot.

  64. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 14, 2009 6:20 PM

    Majik Man says:
    December 14, 2009 12:46 PM
    irishgary
    Reynolds was a Sherman pick, not Wolf.
    =====================
    Majik Man says:
    December 14, 2009 5:17 PM
    And my Sherman/ Wolf thing had nothing to do with them just “sitting together”, it was clearly stated, in black and white, that the two of them worked together, as in one working unit, to do the draft.
    —————————–
    Who have you proven wrong? First you said Reynolds was a Sherman pick. Now you say he was a Sherman/Wolf pick. Sounds like you’re backtracking.
    It’s hard to come off so pompous when you’ve clearly changed your argument… But you manage it!

  65. bluestree says: Dec 14, 2009 6:48 PM

    It’s probably a waste of time posting on these arguments but what the hell.
    -Brandon Chillar is a good player and his contract is reasonable. He’s Green Bay’s best cover backer and he’s young enough to improve. His initial contract number reflects the fact that the Packers were bidding against Arizona to get him.
    -Ron Wolf has admitted to failing to provide Farve with better talent. After the first Super Bowl, Green Bay was thought to be a Dallas-Niners type dynasty, but they were picked clean of talent and Wolf was never able to put Humpty D back together again. He was not even able to replace Craig Hentrich. He admits it, as well as to making a huge misjudgement with Jamal Reynolds, whom he traded up to get.
    -Green Bay was in terrible shape roster wise after Sherman. In particular, they had no depth. There was a huge falloff in talent after the first unit. Also, they were slow, especially on defense. After losing to Vick and the Falcons, the first ever playoff loss at Lambeau, it was realized by all that we could never beat Atlanta, who was then believed to be the future of the NFC. Nick Barnett was drafted because of his speed, even though he was a relative unknown in college.
    -Joe Johnson and Hardy Nickerson. The poster children for over the hill Free Agents. Notice how many “big name” guys are sitting home this year. Shaun Alexander, Chris McAllister, Derrick Brooks. If you think the best move your team could make is to sign some guys whose name you recognize, I suggest rooting for Washington.
    -I can tell that a lot of you only think a player is good if he get’s his name called by the announcer, otherwise I’m sure the game is just a blur to you. I can understand why you don’t think Hawk or Chillar is good because they’re not getting a sack or a fumble recovery. It’s the ultimate team game. Hawk gives himself up a lot and funnels plays to Barnett. That’s his job. try watching a particular guy on a play and not just watching the ball. You’ll see a whole new game.
    -Don’t count out Kampman. He’s the type of guy that will not accept failure. He’s a self made guy, nobody figure he could ever rush the passer coming out. He was a run stopper. He’ll be back and he’ll be good. Shaun Ellis made the switch in Dallas, Kampman will to.
    -And to the guy who said Barnett was no good-Dude, get tickets to your local high school game, you’re not ready for pro football.

  66. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 7:15 PM

    schooled.

  67. PackFaninPackLand says: Dec 14, 2009 7:19 PM

    Re: cheddar is beddar at 5:13 PM
    “PackFan, Apparently you either didn’t read my entire post or did not comprehend it, maybe both. I said that yes, I would consider the relatively cheap 2/5.2 contract to be “pennies”. Is that hard to digest?”
    I did read the entire post, and it reads more idiotic every time. Bet you’ve never owned a business before ! You don’t pay back-ups $2.6 to $5.2 MIL a year. You pay them like 600 to 800 grand. Only people like you and Ted Thompson think like that. Nor do you use your top draft choice on your #4 WR (as TT did with Jordy Nelson) you use your 5th, 6th, or 7th round picks, OR street free agents. Look to successful teams such as NE, INDY, or PITT and see if their top draft pick is there #4 WR. Good grief. It’s TT nuthuggers like you that think every move Ted makes is brilliant.
    But it is great fun to read you and Majik Woman try and justify your stupidity to no end.
    ———————————-
    Majik Woman at 5:17 PM
    “That is your direct quote, word for word, copy and pasted. There is no “or.””
    Really ??? Look at my comment at 2:04 PM in which anyone with eyes can see the words “Or the ill-informed:” which is in reference to you and your idiotic comments were at 12:46 PM. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    STILL trying to push that idiotic comment, eh ???
    ——————————–
    I see you’re also STILL trying to push the idiotic comment that Reynolds was a Sherman pick, not a Wolf pick too.
    I suppose you’d be surprised to learn that Wolf actually traded UP to get Reynolds. Yep, he did. Wolf traded Matt Hasselbeck and the #17 overall pick (which they used to select Steve Hutchinson) to Seattle for their #10 overall pick and a third rounder where we got Torrance Marshall. So, Matt Hasselbeck and Steve Hutchinson for Jamal Reynolds and Torrance Marshall – yikes, did we get screwed on that one.
    ——————————-
    More Majik Woman: “As for you attacking my saying that the teams pay the player for the postseason, not the NFL, this has already been debated on here, and it was proven that the money is, in fact, payed to the players, by the team”
    Who did you debate this with, more people of your intelligence ??? And who was it “proven” by … someone like “cheddar is beddar” ???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    So, in your mind, if the Packers go on the road and play AT Arizona (or whoever the wild card opponent is), and then AT MINN., and then AT N.O. and then AT the Super Bowl (and let’s hope that’s the case BTW) – YOU actually think the Packers would pay out out the salaries … for all 4 games ??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Where would those millions of dollars come from then ??? Hmmm ???
    It’s part of the CBA, dude. Good lord.
    ——————————-
    Even more Majik Woman: “Now please, continue to “prove me wrong.”
    Well, I have at every step of the way. What’s funny is you STILL don’t get it.
    “It’s become quite entertaining.”
    Hey, you got one thing right today !!!! Bravo, it IS fun watching you step in it time after time after time, and still have NO CLUE as to how stoooooopid you look !
    You’ve had quite a day on this one story haven’t you ??? You’ve proven you can’t read (Saying I said you were a TT nuthugger), that you’re an idiot (think Sherman drafted Reynolds), a liar (tried to tell others I said you were a TT nuthugger), and delusional (trying to continue to pound all of your idiotic statements). So, YES, this was great fun to read
    And the best part is, every time along the way, you’ve say something you “think” is correct, you’ve actually been wrong on all of it ! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    THAT’S the beautiful; part of it !
    Can’t wait to see what delusional comments you’ll have tomorrow !!!!!!!!
    ————————-
    If A. J. Hawk is so bad and Brandon Chillar is so good, and they “rotate” as Packers4life at 6:03 Pm said, then how come Hawk had 86 tackles and 3 sacks last year and is a bum, but Chillar had 69 tackles and had 1 whole sack last year and is “solid” ??? Hmmm.
    Majik Woman – is this your 3rd different identity on here ???

  68. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 14, 2009 7:48 PM

    Majik Man says:
    Beer Cheese
    How quick you turn, just 5 weeks ago, we were on the same page, thinking TT and MM were awful. I stand my ground, you let 5 wins in a row over bad teams change your mind, and I’m the traitor. Always thought you were a decent guy, didn’t know you were an Obama style flip flopper. People accuse me of wagon hopping, yet this is your 3rd time this season. You’ve gone from Packers rule, to Pack suck and fire everyone, to Packers are great again. What’s the deal?
    ____________________________________
    The deal is: five weeks ago, I wouldn’t ever expect to be 9-4 right now. Yeah, we’ve faced crappy teams, but none worse than Tampa, and they beat us. I never said Packers rule, they clearly don’t, but I’m glad we at least have a winning record considering how the season started.
    I never really disliked McCarthy. I just think he’s in over his head. He is very knowledgeable, just not HC material. He seems to lack leadership skills, as evidenced by the constant penalties. Thompson, on the other hand, can burn in hell, and the sooner the better. That has nothing to do with Favre though.
    Glad you thought I was a decent guy, but we were never on the same page. You’re a Viking fan now. You turned your back on your team. I don’t respect that, I never did. I can hate Thompson and still be a Pack fan.

  69. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 7:50 PM

    I don’t think that every move he makes is brilliant. But I’m not a dipshit like yourself who thinks every move he makes is not brilliant. Look at all those ‘successful’ teams and realize that they use top draft choices to draft players that might not start on Day 1, but who provide key depth and one day may be in the starting line up. Happens all the time, that is the luxury of drafting at the back end of the first round. Submit that app.

  70. PackFaninPackLand says: Dec 14, 2009 8:13 PM

    Yep, that Ted, what a genius !

  71. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 14, 2009 8:20 PM

    Standard. Being passive-aggressive is pretty typical for you lapdog fans. I retorted with insight to how ‘successful’ teams draft and that is all you can come up with?
    Green Bay Packers Human Resources
    1265 Lombardi Avenue
    Green Bay, WI 54304

  72. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 10:38 PM

    CockfaninPackland
    That’s great that you said that at 2:04. I was referring to the 2:42 spewing of idiocy, where you clearly referenced me as a Thompson nuthugger. Spin it how you want, you said it, it’s right there for everyone to see. Stop lying.
    As for who I debated the Super Bowl pay with, if you bothered to read the rest of the post, it clearly states that it was with Supersuckers. Try to pay attention. It was proven with a link to an article that directly stated how the payouts worked.
    I actually agree on most of your Thompson takes, some of them make a great deal of sense and I’ve said them my self. But you need to relax a little bit, don’t be so defensive. Stop acting like a pissed off little girl who got stood up for prom.

  73. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 10:48 PM

    BeerCheese,
    You show your disdain your way, I do it my way. We both agree to disagree on that. It just sounded like you were starting to buy into the Thompson 15 year plan. I thought you were going all Supersuckers on me.

  74. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 14, 2009 11:14 PM

    Majik Man says:
    I thought you were going all Supersuckers on me.
    ____________________________________
    That’s even LESS likely than you suddenly becoming a “TT nuthugger”.

  75. Majik Man says: Dec 14, 2009 11:36 PM

    That’ pretty damn funny, Beer Cheese. Have a good nite, man.

  76. cheddar is beddar says: Dec 15, 2009 1:06 AM

    Cute, a friendship is born. Let’s get back to football.

  77. packers4life says: Dec 15, 2009 12:56 PM

    “Stop acting like a pissed off little girl”
    I take it you were talking about yourself? After all, you are still bitter that the Packers were mean to your man-crush.

  78. leftdust says: Dec 16, 2009 5:32 AM

    Hopefully all you tools are still reading this thing – the “chimp” remark was the fact that after Rodgers dropped OF COURSE TT would pick him. Trust me, TT would have passed on A-Rod if TT had a top 10 pick. Idiots the lot of you.

  79. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 10:44 AM

    Yeah, good comparison. Thompson makes a great pick with Rodgers at #24. You say a trained chimp could’ve done it… But 23 other teams passed on him. Something doesn’t fit.
    I guess I wouldn’t be throwing around the term “idiots” if I were trying to make the case you’re making.

  80. leftdust says: Dec 16, 2009 11:53 AM

    Actually, you are an idiot for not getting the jist of that statement. Rodgers fell into TT’s lap and he’s a “genius” because he made the pick? Fantastic logic.

  81. jeff says: Dec 16, 2009 12:17 PM

    How many other teams didn’t need a QB?
    The Packers sure didn’t that year.
    The guy fell farther than he should, possible #1 overall pick that year. TT took a lot of heat for that pick at the time…Not a need.
    TT is a trained chimp? now it all comes together….
    Go mail some shit Adam!

  82. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 5:08 PM

    leftdust says:
    December 16, 2009 11:53 AM
    Actually, you are an idiot for not getting the jist of that statement. Rodgers fell into TT’s lap and he’s a “genius” because he made the pick? Fantastic logic.
    ——————————-
    OK, he fell into Thompson’s lap, but he didn’t fall into the laps of the prior 23 teams? How many of the 32 guys chosen in the first round are better right now than Aaron Rodgers?
    I’ll even do you a favor and list them for you. You can tell me which of those guys is better right now.
    Alex Smith
    Ronnie Brown
    Braylon Edwards
    Cedric Benson
    Carnell Williams
    Adam Jones
    Troy Williamson
    Antrel Rolle
    Carlos Rogers
    Mike Williams
    DeMarcus Ware
    Shawne Merriman
    Jammal Brown
    Thomas Davis
    Derrick Johnson
    Travis Johnson
    David Pollack
    Erasmus James
    Alex Barron
    Marcus Spears
    Matt Jones
    Mark Clayton
    Fabian Washington
    Aaron Rodgers
    Jason Campbell
    Chris Spencer
    Roddy White
    Luis Castillo
    Marlin Jackson
    Heath Miller
    Mike Patterson
    Logan Mankins
    And now you can stop saying Ted Thompson had the pick fall into his lap. You could say the same thing about Denny Green picking Randy Moss… And you’d be just as much an idiot for suggesting that.

  83. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 5:09 PM

    jeff says:
    December 16, 2009 12:17 PM
    Go mail some shit Adam!
    ——————————
    Just give me the address, fag. There’s still time before Christmas.

  84. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 5:15 PM

    jeff says:
    December 16, 2009 12:17 PM
    How many other teams didn’t need a QB?
    The Packers sure didn’t that year.
    ——————————
    Yeah, they were all set at QB.. They had a 36 year old offseason-flip-flopping QB all set to embark on a record-breaking season with 29 INTs. What the hell was Thompson thinking?
    And if Favre had chosen to hang it up, they had those studs behind him.. Doug Pederson, J.T. O’Sullivan and Craig Nall. Those guys have set the league on fire. Why didn’t Thompson at least hang onto those guys?
    You guys can argue about it all you want. While Rodgers didn’t help the team in 2005, it was a great pick.

  85. jeff says: Dec 17, 2009 10:23 AM

    It also could of blew up in his face.
    We have the benefit of hindsight on this one.
    Favre was asking for help and the response he got was drafting his replacement.
    You are set at QB, but you are lacking in other areas, namely OL.
    TT is famous for drafting players he doesn’t need because he is stuck on BPA, even if there is a viable player in an area of need.
    I know Super will say you don’t draft for need, but if there is a comparable talent at an area of need, you need to go that way.
    Rodgers was a great pick. But, you could have had Favre there still if TT would have taken some input. It’s a respect you show your veterans.
    Rodgers could have just as easily been a Smith or Quinn. Having shitty back-ups is also on TT.
    Just like now, Rodgers gets hurt, you have an untested Flynn backing up, yet you have 3 FB’s on the roster?
    You can defend him all you want, but he is a tool.
    Before Super goes off telling me to be a GM, I don’t claim to have the knowledge to do the whole job, but I can see talent in players.
    Some of his moves are questionable and that’s what we are doing, questioning.
    It’s our opinion, maybe not a fact. But we have a right to our own opinions.
    I just don’t think he’s that good at what he does, you guys do, we aren’t changing each others minds, so what’s the point.
    Time will tell on this, after the season, let’s see how many he gets signed, then you can go into your way back machine and tell me i was wrong, or not.
    I could give you an address, how would you be sure it’s mine? I could have it sent to cop freind of mine with the same 1st name……
    What would your little girl think?
    Daddy tell me about the time you mailed shit and had to go to jail….

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