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Jolly indicted again on drug charges

In July, Packers defensive tackle Johnny Jolly was scheduled to stand trial on felony drug charges in Houston.

A day before the trial commenced, prosecutors dropped the charges.  But the plan, as stated at the time, was to eventually seek a new indictment of Jolly.

That new indictment came today.

Authorities arrested Jolly in July 2008 for possession of at least 200 milligrams of codeine, the active ingredient in cough syrup that routinely is mixed with soda to make a potent intoxicant.

The dismissal arose from the ability of the police to properly measure the amount of codeine in the liquid seized from Jolly’s alleged possession at the time.

We suspect that some of you will invoke the Constitutional protection against double jeopardy.  Your instincts generally are accurate, but jeopardy does not “attach” untl the trial begins.  If the trial doesn’t begin, there can be no double jeopardy because there never was a single jeopardy.

The only limitation, then, is the statute of limitations applicable to the charges that will be pursued.

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104 Responses to “Jolly indicted again on drug charges”
  1. allday28 says: Dec 15, 2009 11:04 PM

    hahaha i bet you feel like a complete jackass now lbpackfan………..

  2. YUHaiwing says: Dec 15, 2009 11:06 PM

    sounds like you know your codeine mike

  3. DocBG says: Dec 15, 2009 11:10 PM

    “Paging Bob Nelson, Paging Bob Nelson”
    Clearly this reflects on the entire organization, and everyone who has ever played for them, and anyone who has ever gone to their games, and anyone who has ever seen them play on TV and cheered for them, and anyone who lives in the state of wisconsin. perhaps they should move the team, and just give the yokels a ball of string to play with instead of watching these clearly immoral, unchristian, child raping, drug dealing, cow tipping, speeding, double parking, and lets not forget failure to get a clean new plate during each trip to the buffet, type of people. Don’t worry greenbay, you can always cheer for the vikes, at least then you’ll know what its like to follow a consistently good team, not just a flash in the pan once every 40 years….
    /bob nelson style thinking
    So some fat bastard got caught robo-tripping, which is hillarious because its a great way to get wasted, so long as you’re under the age of 14. charge him with possesion, or whatever the charge is, and move on. He should serve the suspension just like anyone else and be done and over with.
    they should also execute his family and boil him in oil. (sorry folks, a little more bob nelson style of thinking at the end there)

  4. c.carterhof says: Dec 15, 2009 11:10 PM

    Ha!

  5. Stoogie says: Dec 15, 2009 11:10 PM

    Another scumbag. The NBC station out of Green Bay said tonight that he faces up to 20 years for this deal.

  6. chunky soupy sales says: Dec 15, 2009 11:10 PM

    Our loves in jeapordy, baby, oooooh, ooohooohooooooooh.

  7. Contra says: Dec 15, 2009 11:11 PM

    Hahahahaha….and you Packers pussies gave us Viking fans shit for Erin Henderson?! TAKE THIS AND EAT IT!!! Dumbass packers and their bullshit fans always quick to point the finger.

  8. leatherneck says: Dec 15, 2009 11:12 PM

    Mr. Jolly is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

  9. Favre On HGH says: Dec 15, 2009 11:18 PM

    Authorities arrested Jolly in July 2008 for possession of at least 200 milligrams of codeine, the active ingredient in cough syrup that routinely is mixed with soda to make a potent intoxicant.
    —————————
    Any word on if he was head to Mark Chmura’s house?
    Nothing like codeine and soda pop to get those babysitters….
    (grossing myself out trying to think of a fitting adjective, gonna leave it at that.)

  10. mskmadison says: Dec 15, 2009 11:24 PM

    Gettin crunk with the purple drank.

  11. THEpackersAREwhere? says: Dec 15, 2009 11:26 PM

    Hey Bob Nelson! What do ya think about this???!!! Another Packer with an off the field issue I see!

  12. zangy says: Dec 15, 2009 11:26 PM

    Maybe they can get the trial moved to Minnesota so he can skate through on some ridiculous loop hole?

  13. chunky soupy sales says: Dec 15, 2009 11:30 PM

    But seriously, people mix Codeine with soda? WTF is wrong with you people? Are you date rapists?
    I was given codeine when I broke my arm and it knocked me the #### out. Just don’t see wanting to take something to knock you out as a recreation.

  14. Bob S. says: Dec 15, 2009 11:31 PM

    222 pills which contain codeine are over the counter in Canada and legal are also illegal in the USA.
    More people incarcerated in USA than rest of the world combined – means big bucks for the prison industry both public and private(which means big lobbying PAYOFFS)!
    Whatta disgrace!

  15. Vikes-N-Favre says: Dec 15, 2009 11:34 PM

    This is 10 times worse then the Starcaps case against the Williams Wall and the Saints players. Jolly knew exactly what he was doing, and that is a illegal activity on the streets. They can get him with intent to deliver as well, which would really be bad for him.
    So Packer fans, don’t be so quick to talk smack about the Starcaps case when your boy did a lot worse. If you say these players deserve to be suspended for 4 games, then Jolly deserves to be suspended for 8 games.

  16. Kam88 says: Dec 15, 2009 11:37 PM

    Timing is kind of weird isn’t it? Dallas is competing with Greenbay for a playoff spot and such so the state of Texas throws the indictment out there again. Conspiracy? I THINK YES!!!!!!!!! :P

  17. jorge says: Dec 15, 2009 11:38 PM

    Nice going Jolly, just the kinda distraction you needed as your team makes a run for the playoffs. Maybe your teammates will wish you a “Jolly old” Christmas when you’re in the can next year around this time…

  18. CanadianVikingFan says: Dec 15, 2009 11:41 PM

    So it’s good to see that this disgusting, mongrel of a human being with anger issues may be getting some punishment for is obvious dirty and immoral habbits. So after they continue to attack the Williams wall for taking weight loss pills, here comes the pendulum in full swing.

  19. Havren says: Dec 15, 2009 11:46 PM

    Lies!! All packers are moral outstanding citizens, and play for the love the game and for lambeau and they all have small town values.

  20. GoBears84 says: Dec 15, 2009 11:54 PM

    Looks like he got caught on the WRONG Purp!!
    Shouldn’t he be worried about the purp in Minnesota?

  21. nerd says: Dec 15, 2009 11:57 PM

    It’s a weak case. Four black guys sitting in a car. Obviously suspicious, right?
    Add the “odor of codeine,” which btw has no odor.
    Then consider that all the codeine in the vehicle is being put on Jolly, because he was the “driver.” But they weren’t driving. They were parked.
    Get a good lawyer, Johnny. You should walk.

  22. LarryDavid says: Dec 15, 2009 11:58 PM

    (in Bob Nelson fashion)
    This is yet another example of the type of criminals the Packers organization continually puts on their roster. No wonder the state of Wisconsin is turning against their team.
    40% of Wisconsin are Viking fans anyway. Kwik Trip and Fleet Farm stores (Wisconsin companies) sell Vikings apparel throughout Wisconsin.
    The Packers can’t sign any top free agents because no player wants to play for the worst-supporting fan base in the league. After all, this was the fan base that flooded the Lambeau exits in the 3rd quarter of their game against the Vikings in 1998.
    The problems with the Packers start at the bottom and work their way up. The majority of Packer fans are immoral homosexuals (see Bob Nelson, Supersuckers, and JimmySmith). The same can be said about the coaching staff and front office.
    The Packers organization is a joke. It should surprise no one that Brett Favre is having the best year of his career with the Vikings.
    I hope you enjoyed that Bobby.

  23. Desertman says: Dec 16, 2009 12:03 AM

    this is so bogus.
    Florio, you really hate the Steelers this much?

  24. ItalianStallion says: Dec 16, 2009 12:07 AM

    Seems ironic that a Packer player would love the purple drank.

  25. Nick R says: Dec 16, 2009 12:07 AM

    I though it was a “Statue of Limitations?”. Hey Florio, I think you’re wrong on this one buddy.

  26. cusoman says: Dec 16, 2009 12:17 AM

    What are the chances if Jolly is doing this, that the rest of the team has participated in the past as well? The players in the Packer organization should be ashamed at what a disgrace they’ve become – kids look up to sports players and now there will be a whole generation of Packer fans’ kids stocking their dorm rooms with codeine when they leave their parents’ house for college.
    This disgrace of an organization needs to fade away and let the more upstanding ones pave the way for the future of the NFL.

    Think all that sounded ridiculous? Well, that’s how you guys sound when you post in Vikings threads related to controversial subjects and run your mouth. Be reasonable, and wherever applicable, shut the hell up, ok?

  27. NathanExplosion says: Dec 16, 2009 12:20 AM

    To all the Packers fans who ripped the Vikes and Erin Henderson….
    Oops!!!

  28. Tompadre says: Dec 16, 2009 12:21 AM

    Bob Nelson…Bob Nelson, paging Bob Nelson, please report to the Jolly-drug charges thread.
    Crickets!
    BOBBER…BOBBER…come out, come out wherever you are!
    Crickets!
    Come on Bob, tell us again how the Vikings are full of degenerates while the Packers employ, or have employed their fair share of the same (as has every team). Tis the holiday season Bobber, and we could all use a good story.

  29. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Dec 16, 2009 12:22 AM

    Point of parliamentary procedure!

  30. Bob Loblaw says: Dec 16, 2009 12:29 AM

    At least it was only an illegal narcotic, and not an over the counter weight loss supplement. That would be disgraceful.

  31. LewD says: Dec 16, 2009 12:32 AM

    if it’s not jeopardy, then it must be BINGO!

  32. Boring Tuna says: Dec 16, 2009 12:32 AM

    Actually, DJ attaches at the point that a jury has been empaneled or after the first witness has been sworn in which is different and more precise than saying when a trial begins. I can see why West Virginia isn’t even ranked in the top 100 law schools by Newsweek.

  33. smurph says: Dec 16, 2009 12:35 AM

    And then donald driver sold him crack out of the back of his van. You’ve really got a team to be proud of there pack fans!

  34. Evpimp says: Dec 16, 2009 12:39 AM

    Hey Bob and Jimmy?? Why are there criminals on the Packers I thought that was gods team you fudge packers

  35. Beer Cheese Soup says: Dec 16, 2009 1:16 AM

    This is a pile of crap. If they had a case against him, they would have pursued it the first time. All they can hope for is Jolly to take their threats seriously, and accept some sort of plea bargain. I’ve been in a similar situation myself. If it goes to trial, it will magically go away, again. And the prosecutors have to know that..

  36. ZornFlorio says: Dec 16, 2009 1:22 AM

    The only thing worse than a Packer cheater is a Pats cheater. LMFAO!!!!

  37. mnmaverick says: Dec 16, 2009 1:23 AM

    And they tell us about the Vikings? :::smirk:::

  38. MasterShake says: Dec 16, 2009 1:24 AM

    Johnny Jolly is a Joke!
    Puff Puff Pass,
    Nate Newton

  39. Hauschild says: Dec 16, 2009 1:39 AM

    Bad seeds.

  40. mannyfresh209 says: Dec 16, 2009 2:50 AM

    got busted with lean in houston? lean?! in houston?! you don’t say…

  41. ScottThompson1982 says: Dec 16, 2009 4:53 AM

    Sippin’ Syrup or “Purp”
    Delicious.

  42. irishgary says: Dec 16, 2009 5:54 AM

    Quuen fans will cream in their jeans on this one, of course he will probably be on their team next year with the rest of the junkies

  43. huskerfootball says: Dec 16, 2009 6:04 AM

    Cue lights, sound and Johnny in a Santa hat:
    “Have a Holly Jolly Christmas… it’s the best time of the year!”

  44. green&bold says: Dec 16, 2009 7:46 AM

    I can’t believe an NFL player would do drugs. I just can’t believe it.

  45. jeff says: Dec 16, 2009 8:25 AM

    Beer Cheese Soup says:
    December 16, 2009 1:16 AM
    This is a pile of crap. If they had a case against him, they would have pursued it the first time. All they can hope for is Jolly to take their threats seriously, and accept some sort of plea bargain. I’ve been in a similar situation myself. If it goes to trial, it will magically go away, again. And the prosecutors have to know that
    ==========================
    Wrong!
    Read up on it. Google it. They were waiting for a new machine to measure they exact amount or something of that nature.
    He isn’t walking on this.
    You are allowed to drop charges and re-indict.

  46. Ross'sSweetMinus says: Dec 16, 2009 8:37 AM

    Hey Percy Harvin,
    Your an F’n Scum Bag!
    Keep your fly trap closed.

  47. GBPackers says: Dec 16, 2009 8:42 AM

    Seeing its his contract year(and he is playing out of his ass, imagine that!), maybe we will be able to strike a cheap deal because of his dumb ass mistakes.

  48. GBPackers says: Dec 16, 2009 8:47 AM

    Shouldn’t Packer fans whine that this “thread,” as you call it, is littered with Queens?

  49. Pack83 says: Dec 16, 2009 8:49 AM

    I certainly ran for the exits at the Moss MNF game in 98…I was 17 years old from Upstate New York, and I didn’t want to watch my team get destroyed by that incredible Vikings team that night.
    Don’t worry though, we never blinked for a second 3 months later when they choked away the NFC Championship.

  50. DCViking says: Dec 16, 2009 8:52 AM

    @LarryDavid -
    That was awesome….truly awesome.

  51. Fan_Of_ Four says: Dec 16, 2009 8:57 AM

    It’s true, you really can’t take the hood out of the boy even if you give him a job making millions.

  52. PervyHarvin says: Dec 16, 2009 8:59 AM

    Ross’sSweetMinus – That lame stalking act you got going with is a lil bit scary. Thank God for the gated community. You can’t get in. Unlike a gated community in WI where you just jump the half painted picket fence and make your way to the trailer house!!!

  53. JimmySmith says: Dec 16, 2009 9:04 AM

    Don’t let the facts get in the way of bashing Jolly:
    1) Innocent until proven guility, let’s see what the court case will bring.
    2) Jolly was in a parked car with 3 other men, it is up to the DA to prove that the drinks belong to him.
    3.) Legal experts (not Viking fans) suggest the evidence is weak and a conviction is hardly a sure thing.
    So it shares a couple of similarities with the Churma case, a lot of headlines, weak evidence, and if it results in no conviction, no matter to the Viking fans, its the headlines they love.

  54. Calistin says: Dec 16, 2009 9:12 AM

    Lol, Viking trolls are hilarious. Is there really so little to do you have to post on a forum having nothing to do with your team like 4-5 times? Some of you guys are so obssessed w/ posting on Packers threads it’s absolutely pathetic. I know, I know, some Packer fans post on your threads. So there, you are no better than any of us that do it, and you’ve got no room to bitch, like Pervy does, anytime a Packer fan says anything. Pick up the classifieds all ready. Good thing your team is FINALLY doing well, so that you can act like total jackasses and become the most hated fans on this board.
    Oh and btw, Innoncent until proven guilty fanboys. Jolly don’t have to sweat shit. See you in January ya blond wig wearing scrubs.

  55. Philtration says: Dec 16, 2009 9:16 AM

    Can you hear the cheesedicks squirming in their bib overalls right now?
    I love it when these self-righteous hillbilly pukes have reality thrown in their pocked marked faces.
    “Have a locked up Jolly Christmas… its the best time of the year…
    Oh by golly there gonna gang rape Jolly in his fat rear”

  56. purpleguy says: Dec 16, 2009 9:23 AM

    While there’s really no need to even comment after Docbg and Larry David’s posts, the comments minimizing Jolly’s “transgressions” are pretty entertaining. Lets see, a bunch of dudes hanging outside a bar in the early morning hours playing the car stereo loudly shouldn’t attract attention by the cops? And then they find booze, the purple Kool-Aid in a quantity more than a single person would consume (even given Jolly’s fat ass), plus marijuana? Sure, the guy should walk with a $15 loitering ticket. Hell, they should charge him with felony stupidity.

  57. Tompadre says: Dec 16, 2009 9:24 AM

    Kam88 says:
    December 15, 2009 11:37 PM
    Timing is kind of weird isn’t it? Dallas is competing with Greenbay for a playoff spot and such so the state of Texas throws the indictment out there again.
    ——————————————————–
    Thought the timing of the Erin Henderson suspension was a little weird too. He sits his butt on the sidelines almost all year and nothing. As soon as he hits the field, and likely will suit up more often now that his brother is done for the year, he gets popped. Someone get Oliver Stone on this pronto!

  58. Tompadre says: Dec 16, 2009 9:25 AM

    Kam88 says:
    December 15, 2009 11:37 PM
    Timing is kind of weird isn’t it? Dallas is competing with Greenbay for a playoff spot and such so the state of Texas throws the indictment out there again.
    ——————————————————–
    Thought the timing of the Erin Henderson suspension was a little weird too. He sits his butt on the sidelines almost all year and nothing. As soon as he hits the field, and likely will suit up more often now that his brother is done for the year, he gets popped. Someone get Oliver Stone on this pronto!

  59. cusoman says: Dec 16, 2009 9:27 AM

    Jimmy, look at some of the past posts you’ve made on the Williams case – you are the absolute epitome (look it up) of a hypocrite (look it up).

  60. smokesome says: Dec 16, 2009 9:29 AM

    i’d rather have a player that used recreational drugs than one that used performance enhancing drugs. apparently they’ve got the steroid (and steroid masking agent) hookup up there in minnesota

  61. PervyHarvin says: Dec 16, 2009 9:38 AM

    @CaliSatan- The tendency to whining and complaining may be taken as the surest sign symptom of little souls and inferior intellects. I hope you live alone, to think a family would have to endure your insufferable whining is horrible. Talk football or just STFU!!

  62. PervyHarvin'sMom says: Dec 16, 2009 9:44 AM

    This is old news Vikes fans, we have known about it for a year. He played the entire year last year with it and all this year. What was left out is the fact that there were other people in the car who the crap belonged to, but since it is Jolly’s car he gets in trouble. Now am I naive enough to assume Jolly didn’t have anything to do with it? No obviously not, but guaranteed more than 50% of professional athletes use this crap or have used it. They are, after all, human beings…right Tiger?

  63. ShimSham says: Dec 16, 2009 9:48 AM

    So few people understand the difference between being arrested twice, and being indicted for the same thing twice.
    Jolly didn’t get caught with anything again, they didn’t have a solid case the first time so they dropped the charges until they could get enough to make a better case, now they’re indicting again.
    Everyone who knew anything about this knew it wasn’t over when the charges were dropped a while back.

  64. jeremiah says: Dec 16, 2009 9:51 AM

    almost pointless to post a serious question anymore…between all the regulars bitching about each other. puhhhhhthetic. i will do it anyway though
    so the cops never really knew exactly how much codene he “had”? and from what i remember, the cop said that he detected the odor of codene….which has no odor.
    i still think it all sounds little wishy washy and weak to me, but maybe a FA with a drug charge hangin over his head will be less appealing to other teams this off season, and the pack can keep him on the cheap. hope it works out well for the pack.

  65. Favre On HGH says: Dec 16, 2009 10:00 AM

    I though it was a “Statue of Limitations?”. Hey Florio, I think you’re wrong on this one buddy.
    —————————–
    stat-ue
    Show Spelled Pronunciation [stach-oo]
    –noun
    a three-dimensional work of art, as a representational or abstract form, carved in stone or wood, molded in a plastic material, cast in bronze, or the like.
    stat-ute
    Show Spelled Pronunciation [stach-oot, -oot]
    –noun
    1. Law.
    a. an enactment made by a legislature and expressed in a formal document.
    b. the document in which such an enactment is expressed.
    statute of limitations
    –noun Law.
    a statute defining the period within which legal action may be taken.
    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt — Mark Twain

  66. mixman34 says: Dec 16, 2009 10:03 AM

    Fat ass loser… fits in perfect with the Green Bay fan base.

  67. Bob Loblaw says: Dec 16, 2009 10:04 AM

    Kam88 says: “Timing is kind of weird isn’t it? Dallas is competing with Greenbay for a playoff spot and such so the state of Texas throws the indictment out there again.”
    *********
    Yes it’s a conspiracy. A DA’s office in Houston (Texans country and only about 800 miles from Dallas) decides to charge a rotational player on the Packers D line in order to secure the 6th seed for the Cowboys. Next El Paso police will find a way yo charge someone for the Eagles, San Antonio cops will go after someone for the Vikings, Midland police get someone for the Saints, Austin police are responsible for nabbing someone on the Cardinals, and to play it safe the Laredo County sheriff’s office will take down someone for the Giants.
    It’s either that or the fact that now the Harris County sheriff’s office now has a way to accurately measure Jolly’s codeine — charges were dropped the first time because they knew they’d lose a court case based on not having accutae testing measures — and just got the results back.

  68. DuluthFan says: Dec 16, 2009 10:21 AM

    By request…
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,260242,00.html
    Nothing else needs to be said…

  69. RWFV says: Dec 16, 2009 10:31 AM

    # Favre On HGH says: December 16, 2009 10:00 AM
    I though it was a “Statue of Limitations?”. Hey Florio, I think you’re wrong on this one buddy.
    —————————–
    stat-ue
    Show Spelled Pronunciation [stach-oo]
    –noun
    a three-dimensional work of art, as a representational or abstract form, carved in stone or wood, molded in a plastic material, cast in bronze, or the like.
    stat-ute
    Show Spelled Pronunciation [stach-oot, -oot]
    –noun
    1. Law.
    a. an enactment made by a legislature and expressed in a formal document.
    b. the document in which such an enactment is expressed.
    statute of limitations
    –noun Law.
    a statute defining the period within which legal action may be taken.
    It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt — Mark Twain
    ———————————-
    Favre On HGH,
    You are correct! You removed all doubt that you are a complete idiot.
    I’ll give you a B- for looking up the definitions (amazed you could do that for a packer fan)
    and and F- for being a complete moron.

  70. jeff says: Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM

    PervyHarvin’sMom says:
    December 16, 2009 9:44 AM
    This is old news Vikes fans, we have known about it for a year. He played the entire year last year with it and all this year. What was left out is the fact that there were other people in the car who the crap belonged to, but since it is Jolly’s car he gets in trouble. Now am I naive enough to assume Jolly didn’t have anything to do with it? No obviously not, but guaranteed more than 50% of professional athletes use this crap or have used it. They are, after all, human beings…right Tiger?
    ==============================
    Asshat canidate for post above.
    I’m sure thae Williams wall is the only ones that used a diruetic or steroids…….supposedly….innocent til proven guilty….
    This the track you really want to go on …Packer fans are idiots, with a few exceptions..
    You don’t let it fly when the Vikes get in trouble…it aint flying for the Packer players.
    Blatant hypocrisy, blatant I say!

  71. marshall70 says: Dec 16, 2009 10:39 AM

    Packer fans can now shut the hell up talking about other teams who have players with issues related to drugs.

  72. PurpleIsForGays says: Dec 16, 2009 10:57 AM

    This is codeine guys, it doesnt make him bigger, faster, or stronger, it just gets you tossed beyond belief.
    @Doc,
    He should serve the susension like everyone else? That’s the most hypocritical thing I have heard in a while.

  73. purplepuzzyeatrz says: Dec 16, 2009 10:58 AM

    A Vikings fan, please do not insult the Packers in General for this dude….It makes no sense…. Has nothing to do with the team as whole…It is boggling tho that with all the team doctors and the amount of meds distributed in the locker room, that he would be such a fool to do anything like that on the sly…makes no sense….fool
    SKOL

  74. Tabdanger says: Dec 16, 2009 11:00 AM

    This is the stuff Jamarcus Russell is addicted to…

  75. Vikes-N-Favre says: Dec 16, 2009 11:02 AM

    # irishgary says: December 16, 2009 5:54 AM
    Quuen fans will cream in their jeans on this one, of course he will probably be on their team next year with the rest of the junkies
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Seriously? Can you please tell me exactly why the Vikings would want Jolly when we already have the best DL as is? We have 2 Pro Bowl DT’s in the Williams Wall, and a Pro Bowl freak at DE in Allen.
    I tell you what though, we may get Kampman to put in at DE opposite Allen. Wouldn’t that just be misery for you GB fans?
    P.S. Use spell check.

  76. Jimair1 says: Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM

    Fan feedback is a good thing when it comes to differing opinions. But when it’s just football “mouth breathers” swearing at each other because their allegiance lies with another team it’s stupid and pointless. Clean up your site Florio or NBC or whoever is in charge now

  77. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 11:15 AM

    Vikes-N-Favre says:
    December 15, 2009 11:34 PM
    This is 10 times worse then the Starcaps case against the Williams Wall and the Saints players. Jolly knew exactly what he was doing, and that is a illegal activity on the streets. They can get him with intent to deliver as well, which would really be bad for him.
    So Packer fans, don’t be so quick to talk smack about the Starcaps case when your boy did a lot worse. If you say these players deserve to be suspended for 4 games, then Jolly deserves to be suspended for 8 games.
    ——————————
    Yes, it’s definitely worse than taking a spiked diuretic.. If it’s actually Jolly’s stuff. But I won’t make excuses for turds. And if he’s hanging out with turds, then he’s a turd by association. I’ll personally support whatever punishment comes out if it’s proven the drugs were his. His suspension would hurt the team, but I’m not going to be a hypocrite.
    Regarding the Williamses. They are guilty because the drug was found in their system. However, they are not forced to suffer the consequences because of the state they play in. It’s a shame that the NFL cannot enforce its own rules.

  78. Ruvell100 says: Dec 16, 2009 11:16 AM

    @DuluthFan- I’m a proud Wisconsinite, but that is still funny as hell. I never knew that he also killed a horse with the intention of pounding it.
    I bet a live sheep would be fun.

  79. PervyHarvin'sMom says: Dec 16, 2009 11:18 AM

    See jeff the problem is you look at anything anyone says, and take it as a direct insult. I wasn’t excusing anything, just simply saying that just because we look up to these athletes, doesn’t make them any less human, everyone makes mistakes. Go find a single post made by me ripping on any Vikings player or any other player for getting in trouble with the league or the law. I will save you the time because it won’t happen. Oh and its CANDIDATE.
    And to the guy that posted the article about that nasty Wisconsin dude, so what? I live in Minnesota and hear about nasty shit like that in here as well, and every other state in the Country, that doesn’t make the populace bad people, it just mean that there are f-ed up people EVERYWHERE.

  80. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 11:19 AM

    marshall70 says:
    December 16, 2009 10:39 AM
    Packer fans can now shut the hell up talking about other teams who have players with issues related to drugs.
    ——————————-
    Not if they react the same way. Again, I think Jolly should serve whatever time the court hands out, and whatever suspension the NFL hands down. I feel the same way about the Williamses… But they haven’t had to pay the price yet, have they?

  81. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 11:24 AM

    DuluthFan says:
    December 16, 2009 10:21 AM
    By request…
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,260242,00.html
    Nothing else needs to be said…
    ——————————-
    DuluthFan, is this you?
    http://www.heraldandnews.com/articles/2009/10/23/breaking/doc4ae14d6d9fad5836301928.txt

  82. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 11:27 AM

    Damn, those Minnesota women are cute..
    http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/12/10/sasquatch-sighting/

  83. texasPHINSfan says: Dec 16, 2009 11:29 AM

    Anybody realize exactly how little 200 mg of codeine is? You can buy that amount of codeine over the counter through other medications.
    Why this warrants charges is beyond me. Is it because he didn’t have a “prescription”? Would he have been better off if he transported them in Nyquil bottles?

  84. Ruvell100 says: Dec 16, 2009 11:48 AM

    DFan- Here is a nice Minnesota-based clip. Toothless, WI hicks like me can appreciate this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sPF0AUxotI

  85. Dr.Drew says: Dec 16, 2009 11:50 AM

    @ AppleCrispshitterson- so you are the WI deer boy? LOL

  86. Jack Mehoff says: Dec 16, 2009 12:07 PM

    @ Ruvell100- How were things at Ichibans??

  87. DuluthFan says: Dec 16, 2009 12:27 PM

    Adam-Chris Scheftersen – LOL, that was a funny story, man. Happened in Proctor, MN…basically a suburb of Duluth. Dude get rolled up on by the cops after he hits a parked car with his…wait for it…motorized Lay-Z-Boy recliner. Not a proud day to be a Minnesotan to be sure.
    Ruvell100 – Yeah, some pretty messed-up stuff. I bet if we got news from any other part of the country you would see weird stories like this everywhere.
    Live sheep? ‘Recon it’s better than a dead horse, but it is all so relative. LOL!
    Another thing I notice when traveling around northern WI…either the residents don’t use them or the car dealerships just don’t equip their cars with turn signals. And I mean it happens ALL THE TIME. Frustrating sometimes, but mostly just funny.

  88. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 12:31 PM

    texasPHINSfan says:
    December 16, 2009 11:29 AM
    Anybody realize exactly how little 200 mg of codeine is? You can buy that amount of codeine over the counter through other medications.
    Why this warrants charges is beyond me. Is it because he didn’t have a “prescription”? Would he have been better off if he transported them in Nyquil bottles?
    ——————————-
    It’s a typo in the Press-Gazette article and it’s been carried over to Florio’s post. It’s 200 GRAMS, not 200 milligrams.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D9CK4U3O2.html

  89. DuluthFan says: Dec 16, 2009 12:32 PM

    texasPHINSfan – same could be said about the Star Caps thing with the Williams’. Honestly, do they look like they are on steroids? Especially Pat? It is ALSO used as a dieretic…something that makes much more common sense than the use of steroids when you look at those big boys.
    I do not know as much about codeine as you apparently do, so I have to trust your statement. Which means Jolly is not being treated fairly.

  90. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 12:36 PM

    Ruvell100 says:
    December 16, 2009 11:48 AM
    DFan- Here is a nice Minnesota-based clip. Toothless, WI hicks like me can appreciate this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sPF0AUxotI
    ——————————-
    “A pair of choppers!”
    “You’re gay!”
    Nice.

  91. Ruvell100 says: Dec 16, 2009 1:02 PM

    @DFan- I would like to add another animal to my trophy case. So far, I have only tamed cougars and an occasional whale after bar time in college, ha ha!
    @Perv- Could have fooled me that we’re in a recession. Had to wait 30 minutes for a table and that was with reservations. Both had Imperials, steak and shrimp were phenomenal as usual, chicken was dry. I stuck to Sam Adams, the wife pounded 3 Lotus Martinis and passed out on the way home.
    @ACS- Northern WI is a scary place. That’s why I love it. Barnes, Hayward, Seeley, Drummond-God’s Country.

  92. sand0 says: Dec 16, 2009 2:20 PM

    This isn’t the same as the Williamses case. Jolly was arrested for breaking the law. He was arrested for possession of a banned substance.
    The Williamses took a legal over the counter pill that happened to contain extremely small traces of a banned diuretic.
    Stop trying to compare the two. They would only be the same if Jolly had failed an NFL codeine screen for taking some Robitussen. In that case I would side with Jolly as well even though he plays for a weak rival team. That isn’t what happened though.

  93. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 2:33 PM

    Speaking of stupid people… ‘Tis the season for Holiday Horror Stories. Hilarious. Enjoy.
    http://1029thehog.com/Podcasting/4295048

  94. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 2:37 PM

    sand0 says:
    December 16, 2009 2:20 PM
    This isn’t the same as the Williamses case. Jolly was arrested for breaking the law. He was arrested for possession of a banned substance.
    The Williamses took a legal over the counter pill that happened to contain extremely small traces of a banned diuretic.
    Stop trying to compare the two. They would only be the same if Jolly had failed an NFL codeine screen for taking some Robitussen. In that case I would side with Jolly as well even though he plays for a weak rival team. That isn’t what happened though.
    ————————
    You’re exactly right–it’s not the same.. Jolly hasn’t been proven to have violated any NFL rules. Jolly hasn’t been suspended by the league. The Williamses have.
    Again, I won’t even begin to make lame excuses for Jolly. I hope the truth comes out and I hope justice is served. If it was his, I hope he gets nailed and suspended.
    On the other hand, Pat and Kevin were nailed and they were suspended. They just haven’t had to sit out.

  95. jeff says: Dec 16, 2009 3:20 PM

    They are having their day(s) in court, just like Jolly will.
    It’s really not that different. you just can’t stand the fact that Minnesota has a law like that and the NFL was too stupid to cover the loophole.
    if they weren’t Vikings, you wouldn’t care.
    Maybe you should mail the Minnesota judge some shit?

  96. texasPHINSfan says: Dec 16, 2009 3:28 PM

    ok well 200 grams is a lot different than 200 milligrams. Even though I still think codeine is hardly an illicit drug, 200 grams is definitely an amount that has “intent to distribute” written all over it.
    The reality is this is a drug that helps people deal with pain; this isn’t heroin or steroids. Codeine is much less damaging than even HGH to human tissue.
    I guess I don’t understand the extent to which law enforcement is hammering the guy.

  97. TheBaySay says: Dec 16, 2009 4:15 PM

    Arrested in July 2008, charged in December 2009, to be tried(?) God knows when… I think I’d have my high-powered shyster bring up the fact that I hadn’t gotten a trial by a reasonable date. Naw, that’s thinking like a Goofer.

  98. jeff says: Dec 16, 2009 4:38 PM

    TheBaySay says:
    December 16, 2009 4:15 PM
    Arrested in July 2008, charged in December 2009, to be tried(?) God knows when… I think I’d have my high-powered shyster bring up the fact that I hadn’t gotten a trial by a reasonable date. Naw, that’s thinking like a Goofer.
    ===============================
    He was indicted once, chargers were dropped.
    Re indicted on same charges.
    Do you even read the original post?
    You are a goofer, and an asshat.

  99. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 16, 2009 5:34 PM

    jeff says:
    December 16, 2009 3:20 PM
    It’s really not that different. you just can’t stand the fact that Minnesota has a law like that and the NFL was too stupid to cover the loophole.
    ——————————-
    It is different. It’s absolutely different. There’s no denying they violated the terms of the collective bargaining agreement. There’s no denying the fact that every other team in the league is bound by those rules.
    With Jolly, nothing’s been proven yet. With Pat and Kevin, it’s all been proven. They are subject to the collective bargaining agreement. If I were Goodell, and the state of Minnesota strikes down this ruling, I’d view the CBA null and void with respect to Vikings players. As such, I’d feel free to violate the CBA to serve my own purposes.
    And no, it’s not just because it’s the Vikings. I’d feel the same way if it were the Saints players who decided they weren’t bound by the same rules. I wouldn’t be as vocal about it, but I’d feel the same way.

  100. jeff says: Dec 16, 2009 8:31 PM

    they aren’t the ones who “decided”. They must have damn good lawyers to have found this out for them.
    if you were in a spot and you could get out on a loophole, youd do it, it’s human nature.
    At least you were honest in your last paragraph.

  101. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 17, 2009 1:06 PM

    jeff says:
    December 16, 2009 8:31 PM
    they aren’t the ones who “decided”. They must have damn good lawyers to have found this out for them.
    if you were in a spot and you could get out on a loophole, youd do it, it’s human nature.
    At least you were honest in your last paragraph.
    ——————————
    They aren’t the ones who decided that? Really? Couldn’t they have accepted the suspensions and moved on… More than a year ago? They ARE the ones who decide that because they are the ones who fought it.
    Don’t try to play the “it’s my lawyer’s decision” card. It’s BS. You are responsible for the way you are defended by your lawyer.
    And no, I wouldn’t try to get out of it like them. I’d accept it and move on.

  102. jeff says: Dec 17, 2009 4:21 PM

    You pay a lawyer to find loopholes like this.
    Are you that retarded? Don’t answer that question, it was rhetorical.
    You are going to come down on the anti side and i will come down on the pro. Just because it’s Vikings.
    They are backed by the NFLPA, they must have a case or it wouldn’t be in the court system this long!!
    That BS that “some vikings season ticket holding judge” is letting them off is preposterous.
    It’s plain and simple, you just refuse to see it.
    It’s been before how many judges in how many courts? And it’s always in the Williams’ favor….
    Should tell you something.
    Yep you pay the lawyer to help you fight a case where you have rights under Minnesota state law!
    If you want to be mad, be mad at the NFL, they are the ones who had their heads up their collective asses on this. You should be able to relate to that…..
    Nah, you wouldn’t get a lawyer to get you out on a technicality if you could, no,no, never….that is laughable.
    I don’t believe that for 1 minute.
    You are so full of shit, no wonder you are trying to mail it out.

  103. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Dec 17, 2009 5:36 PM

    jeff says:
    December 17, 2009 4:21 PM
    They are backed by the NFLPA, they must have a case or it wouldn’t be in the court system this long!!
    ——————————
    Name me one player who had his back turned on him by the players association. It doesn’t prove anything that (1) the case has been going on for awhile or (2) that the players association backs them. They back their own, even to the detriment of the league, like this case. All it proves is that the PA will fight the league to their last breath and that Pat and Kevin have money to burn. Any rich man would be able to drag this thing out with high paid lawyers.
    ————————–
    jeff says:
    December 17, 2009 4:21 PM
    That BS that “some vikings season ticket holding judge” is letting them off is preposterous.
    ————————–
    I’ve never tried to make that case, but it doesn’t surprise me one bit that you’d take someone else’s words and attribute them to me. Goes right along with your general standard of making up bullshit or twisting arguments.
    In fact, months ago when some idiot tried playing the “season ticket holding judge” argument I went to Judge Magnuson’s website and pointed out that it said he was a Gopher season ticket holder, but said nothing about Vikings tickets.
    —————————-
    jeff says:
    December 17, 2009 4:21 PM
    Yep you pay the lawyer to help you fight a case where you have rights under Minnesota state law!
    If you want to be mad, be mad at the NFL, they are the ones who had their heads up their collective asses on this. You should be able to relate to that…..
    Nah, you wouldn’t get a lawyer to get you out on a technicality if you could, no,no, never….that is laughable.
    I don’t believe that for 1 minute.
    —————————–
    No, I wouldn’t fight it. I’d accept the penalty and be done with it. Don’t believe me. I don’t care. I’d accept the punishment if I broke the rules.
    —————————–
    jeff says:
    December 17, 2009 4:21 PM
    You are so full of shit, no wonder you are trying to mail it out.
    —————————–
    And you’re so obsessed with shit, it’s a wonder more people aren’t offering to give you theirs.
    By the way, the offer is still on the table.

  104. jeff says: Dec 17, 2009 7:17 PM

    No comment to the fact that none of the courts have found against them huh?
    “SOP” for adam focus not on the subject at hand, but on secondary points.
    That it’s gone this far and the NFLPA is still there speaks volumes. They have a case and you know it, and your excessive bs to the contrary doesn’t change that.
    your stances on things is idiotic and that you don’t know it is pretty funny.

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