Childress tried to take Favre out in third quarter

As we prepare to head home after this awesome football Sunday, we’ll leave you with one aftershock from Minnesota’s embarrassing blowout loss to the Panthers.

Vikings coach Brad Childress attempted to take Brett Favre out of Sunday’s game in the third quarter.  When the Vikings were leading 7-6. 

Huh?

As anyone who watched the game knows, Favre stayed in throughout.  And according to Jeff Zulgdad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, Favre was “not a happy camper” when he spoke about the development after the game.

Childress did appear to successfully bench left tackle Bryant McKinnie.

We have a feeling Mr. Florio will have a few thoughts on this one in the morning.

Until then, we bid PFT Planet a good night.

83 responses to “Childress tried to take Favre out in third quarter

  1. That’s a strange moment. Childress tries to flex his coaching muscles and Favre flat out says no? It’s one of those, ‘who wears the pants in this relationship?’ type situation. Apparently it’s not Childress.
    Start Vikings meltdown in
    ….3
    ….2
    ….1

  2. I saw Favre and bozo having words for a moment, and NBC quickly tore away from it.
    What exactly does “attempt to take him out mean?”

  3. If you replace the names Favre and Childress with Romo and Phillips, there’d be about 100 comments right now.

  4. Childress shoulda told the old bastard there was a bag of Werther’s Originals in the locker room, that woulda bought him some time. The old gray mare, she aint what she used to be

  5. It appeared McKinnie was benched due to his inability to stop Peppers.
    Childress knew they didn’t have a shot so he was just trying to save face.

  6. HA! this is exactly why the packers dropped him! He thinks he’s bigger than any team in the league! Good try Chilly! hahahaha good luck in the playoffs, you’ll see a meltdown just like any year!

  7. Wow, what on Earth would that have accomplished?
    Did he really think changing QBs was going to give them a better chance to win? Man, now I understand why Vikings fans talk about waiting for the inevitable collapse no matter how good things look…

  8. Every jackoff in America could see that fat azz McKinnie was getting beat like a red-headed step child by Peppers on every play so what does Chilly do? Does he give him help with a TE or a RB on the left side? Does he plan some runs or screens to Peppers side to slow him down? No not Childress. His great idea is to BENCH BRETT FAVRE for freaking TAVARIS JACKSON when the team is still WINNING by 1 point. SERIOUSLY??!!
    I’m not even going to get started on the fact that he wanted to bench him but was unsuccessful.
    The HEAD COACH was UNSUCESSFUL in his attempt to bench the quarterback.
    F ing A.

  9. Brad does have a plan doing that.I mean Brett is 40 and as started every game,BUT.There is a BUT.The game was to close to do that.Brett was the only player on the Viks giving 110% all day.YOU CANT BENCH THE BEST QB IN HISTORY IN A TIGHT GAME.BRAD YOU NEEDED A LOSE TO CLEAR YOUR HEAD.

  10. Childress is a joke, I’m a Jags fan and have only seen 3 Vikings game in the last two years and I know he’s a joke.

  11. ANOTHER NFC loss….man, things arent looking so sweet like they were for those big bad viqueens.
    OHHH pervy…where you at?

  12. Brett got Minn out to a hot start just like he did my Jets last year. Now he is just gonna tank like he did last year. Great team player

  13. Basically Farve told Chilly to sit back, relax, and he’ll send the Wolf directly.
    This is why the Packers kicked Farve to the curb. He thinks he is bigger than the team.
    Amazing.

  14. Are we certain that Chily only wanted to bench Favre for a series of downs or something to talk about a few things? That’s the safest bet. Any other reasoning requires you to contribute an extraordinary amount of irrationality to Brad Childress, and even though i think he’s a crummy head coach, even I wouldn’t take it to that level

  15. Favre giving 110%? Exactly what game were you watching?
    Not saying Favre was terrible, but I’d say he was spotty at best.
    I don’t neccessarily agree with Chilly’s idea, but it’s certainly not the dumbest thing in the planet. Look at it this way, the offense was struggling to do anything, Favre was clearly struggling, and Peppers was getting to Favre consistently, not to mention the team had already clinched the division earlier that day. The game wasn’t going Favre’s way, it’s not totally outrageous to take him out and avoid the risk of an injury

  16. Speaking as a Panthers fan, if Childress had wanted to replace Favre with Delhomme, it wouldn’t bother me a bit.

  17. @weird59
    Best QB in history? It would be hyperbole to say thats a stretch. Furthermore its loss not lose.
    If he didn’t care about this game then why not take Brett out? But given the way the Vikings have played out doors I would think having a home field advantage over the Eagles would be pretty important.

  18. So you’re the Jags fan?! They’ve been looking for you. Waiting for you to show up before they start the game. Hurry along now.

  19. Take Brett out…..what????? He was the only one playing football. The recievers were dropping passes…McKinnie couldn’t block anyone. Brett was lucky he didn’t need to come out after getting killed.
    And the defense…..whatever happen to the fundementals of tackling. They forgot how to do it……

  20. Favre once again proves what kind of QB he is in DEC! He Chokes! Did it with the pack over 16 years, did it with Jets last year and now, welcome Vikes! He was cold and got hammered last night. What is even worse…once again hes the Coach and tells..TELLS his head Coach hes staying in the game? This needs to get blown up! He IS the PLAYER not the Coach!! Whos wearing the pants in Minn Childress??
    Once again…the wheels will fall off in Dec at the hands of BF. He should of stayed retired!!
    ROFLMAO!!

  21. The rumor mill is once again in full speed. The Vikings could not run the ball or protect the qb and yes the coach should have provided help on Peppers but the O line was really bad. I wonder how much the Vikes miss their center from last year who is now a Raven, Matt Birk?

  22. Weird59 you would have to have to best qb in history on the team to bench him. The vikings don’t, so that wouldn’t have been the case.
    Werthers originals, that’s hilarious!

  23. The fact that the Vikings extended Chilly’s contract without a single playoff win is a joke, it just got funnier with this latest episode.
    How does a head coach of a NFL football team “try” to take a player out of a game? Just him saying it should have been enough but apparently Lord Favre answers to higher source, namely himself. Maybe Chilly forgot to cover this subject when he ran to the airport to pick up Brent.
    Actions have consequences and signing Favre carries with it his very large ego.

  24. Okay, I actually agree with the call. Granted, the game plan was not much to be desired, but, Tarvaris can at least run the ball pretty well. In fact, it would have been a great time to implement more wildcat. But, oh well.
    I am very concerned now about the potential of this team in the play-offs. It looks like they never should have let Birk go’; as evidneced by the decline of the running game. Childress seems to not have a back-up plan if something goes wrong, like Peppers being the one-man wrecking crew. But, this team was exposed against the Cardinals. Which brings me to my point: every team has a flaw, the great ones have the ability to overcome them or minimize them. I’m uncertain whether the Vikes are flexible enough to implement new schemes in order to overcome their short comings.

  25. @weird59
    Dude, aren’t you the least bit embarrassed by the fact that your grammar and spelling skills are sub-3rd grade level?

  26. It’s crazy to take him out when it was 7-6, but look, he was absolutely getting killed from the left side. I kept waiting for “Chilly” to keep a RB or TE in there to help McKinny out, but it never happened.
    To make matters worse, Peterson’s off season decision to add 5-10lbs to his frame dropped him down from the top RB in the league, to the 5th or 6th best RB at best. The guy just can’t get it going anymore, and did you see how easily he got ran down on what should have been a TD reception?

  27. “The HEAD COACH was UNSUCESSFUL in his attempt to bench the quarterback.”
    Because that QB is the almighty #4.
    You can’t do that to him!

  28. So let me get this straight instead of Childress adjusting the game plan to neutralize Peppers from planting Favre’s a$$ in the ground all night long, the answer was to bench Favre, sorry I mean attempt to bench Favre lol great idea coach this definitely shows Childress lack of ability to adjust to what is thrown at him I saw it in the Arizona game and it was evident last night too, to all Vikings fans out there your team hasn’t played a decent team except for Green Bay the Ravens the Steelers and Arizona by my count that’s only 4 decent teams and 10 cup cakes, which equals to Vikings aren’t battle tested which was on display last night for all to see.

  29. Childress is not a good coach, Favre is starting his end of season mistakes & Peterson is looking mortal.
    Doesn’t bode well for them.

  30. You would have benched him, Matty, seriously?
    This is insane, instead of helping out his LT AT ALL, he wants to bench Favre, that’s his answer, lol.
    I just saw Favre’s post game interview, he said “he wanted to take me out and I said no, I’m staying in.”
    Chilly, of course, said “we were just having a good conversation about how the game was heading at that point and time, and what we needed to do to head the other way.”
    Gotta love it, lol.

  31. It’s funny really. We Packers fans did love Favre. When he went to minni we warned you of two things: 1) he’d fall apart on cue in December (check), and 2) he’d try to take over the command of the organization (check).

  32. Isn’t it amazing that the Packers got beat by a team that was on a long losing streak, yet they are on a Vikings thread making fun of Favre?
    No, I guess not, that is what Packer fans do. Idiots!

  33. “Best QB in history? It would be hyperbole to say thats a stretch. Furthermore its loss not lose. ”
    this class sucks, when correcting grammar, make sure yours is correct. Saying it is “hyperbole to says thats a stretch” is more or less saying “it’s a stretch to say that’s a stretch,” i.e., it’s not much of stretch, and you agree. I think you meant “understatement” which is the opposite of hyperbole.

  34. Childress is an idiot. Farve was giving 100%. His “O” line quit on him. His receivers dropped several key passes. Petterson should be benched for Taylor. An extra TE should have been in to help against Peppers.

  35. Chilly and Favre need to take another heart to heart car ride around Eden Prairie. You know, work things out.

  36. This is the turning point where Vikings fans will start to regret all the garbage they’ve been talking this year.
    As for Favre, what are the odds that he suddenly develops a mysterious arm injury in the next couple days?

  37. So what? Childress had a different plan and he talked it over with Favre and they both came to an understanding that Favre should stay in, I don’t see what the big deal is here.
    Oh wait, let me guess, there is now going to be some sort of “schism” developing between Favre and Childress now, right? Wake me when the PFT rumor machine breaks down gloriously.

  38. He “tried” to take him out? Welcome to the real world of Favre. He does not come out of the game and he does not tell you if and when he wants to play until late June, and he does not attend training camp and he doesn’t share the locker room with his teammates and he only speaks to the press when he feels like it and he talks in spins and circles. He’s like Evander Holyfield…very good with very good memories of him, but he stayed around too long. You wanted him…you got him.
    And the first cold weather game on the Vikings schedule next week should demonstrate a repeat of the game last night. Another real-world butt-kicking.
    Their big division lead paid dividends when they can get their butts kicked and back into the division title with a broken tail. The Vikings aren’t as good as they think they are and their claim to fame this year will be their two victories over GB.
    All together now…..good for you!

  39. Why would the coach take him out when they’re WINNING the game. Anybody that watched KNOWS that it wasn’t Favre’s fault that the offense wasn’t doing shit. Any educated football fan that watched that would say the same thing
    It’s no coincidence that The vikings two worst games this year the running game was HORRIBLE.
    WHy don’t people blame Adrian Peterson like they do Favre?????

  40. hayward giablommi says:
    December 21, 2009 8:55 AM
    This is the turning point where Vikings fans will start to regret all the garbage they’ve been talking this year.
    ————————————————–
    Wrong idiot…..This is when we turn it up. We are in the playoffs, I don’t let a loss shake me like you other fair weather fans of whatever teams do. This loss is already behind me.

  41. As I’ve been saying all season, there are two certaities in the NFL:
    1) Favre fading down the stretch.
    2) The Vikings choking in the playoffs.
    The first rule is in effect, can’t wait for the meltdown in January!
    Also, where are all the Favre apologists at today? Pervy? You insist on adding your “input” to every positive Packers post but just let your Lord Favre be torn to bits when he needs you the most?
    The colors purple and yellow suit you well.

  42. Favre is good, Favre is great. I am glad he told chili no. if your worried about him getting hurt why play him at all?
    Chili doesnt care about the team, he cares about himself and makign him look good. I hopw the whole team gave up on Chili when they heard he wanted to pull Favre.
    Look at all the good coaches out there and we get stuck with this guy? No wonder we dont have a stadium.
    I am glad we have Favre for all the good things he has done for this team.

  43. It’s starting to look as though letting Mr. Selfish go was definitely the right decision for the Packers. Favre is great when it comes to statistics (except interceptions, of course) but the guy chokes when it matters most…OT interception to Brian Dawkins, OT interception to Corey Webster. All the matters to Favre is his stats. He has to keep playing in the hopes of not letting Peyton Manning break all his records. He wants to be bigger than the team as Minnesota will soon find out.

  44. # hayward giablommi says: December 21, 2009 8:55 AM
    This is the turning point where Vikings fans will start to regret all the garbage they’ve been talking this year.
    As for Favre, what are the odds that he suddenly develops a mysterious arm injury in the next couple days?
    __________________
    Really superstar? Are you one of the geniuses still saying that Favre’s injury last year was faked. Even though he had multiple doctors say he had a torn bicep, and had off-season surgery to repair a torn bicep. You’re probably right. The surgery and physical therapy he went through was all an elaborate scheme to make up for bad play.

  45. “We are in the playoffs, I don’t let a loss shake me like you other fair weather fans of whatever teams do. This loss is already behind me.”
    ^^^^^
    Your team was exposed last night. They had a chance to position themselves for home field advantage and layed an egg.
    Seems any reasonable fan would take a step back to evaluate, considering the Vikings cupcake schedule to begin the season, and that many posters, myself included, knew that once the schedule go tough, your team would be in trouble…but no, not you…you’ve had delusions of grandeur ever since your egomaniacal meglomaniac QB entered the fray. I guess it would be foolish to change your tune at this point.

  46. I just watched both favre’s and Childress’ press conferences. Childress said the discussion was “how to get it going” Favre said after he threw up his arms “We we’re winning 7-6 and Brad wanted to take me out of the game! I said hell no I’m staying in and we are going to win this football game!”” Favre then shook his head and started to say ‘never in my…” then he trailed off…paused and said “now I know I was getting hit a bit but…I dont care if its 70-6…..”
    Thats the jist of it. It really isnt a big deal. Favre should have been shocked. That is strange.

  47. Last night was about coaching…maybe we do have a shitty coaching staff. To let Peppers run all over you like that is an embarrassment. To the coaching staff!

  48. I’m no Vikings fan, but they wouldn’t even be in the playoffs if not for Favre. But I always wonder how they get Farve from Fav-re

  49. Man what a bunch of dopes. He talked about taking him out after Peppers literally pasted him to the turf on the prior drive. The O-line was getting beat every which way and Klink wanted to save the old man’s ass and put in a QB with more mobility — big deal.
    Favre may be a prima donna, but he wasn’t the one at fault last night. It was the O-line, receivers that dropped balls, and a defense that couldn’t tackle (it was like watching a whole team full of AJ Hawks). It is interesting that all their losses came on grass fields outside.
    Cue all the Favre is collapsing and ruining the team crap all you want — particularly the cheesers whose defense was finally exposed yesterday — we’ll see. The simple fact is the team is on top of the NFCN for the second year in a row.

  50. I would think you’d take him out because there was really nothing to play for in this game. I believe they are still 2 games up on Philly with 2 to play? Why not protect/rest the old man? He was getting hammered.

  51. hayward giablommi says: December 21, 2009 9:32 AM
    …and that many posters, myself included, knew that once the schedule go tough, your team would be in trouble…
    _______________
    It’s funny when fans of 9-5 teams who can’t win on the road and whose best player quits on them say that an 11-3 team is in trouble. After 14 games, the Pats are the only team in the East with a winning record, and they still haven’t clinched the division.
    And speaking of cupcake schedules, your Pats have played 4 games against teams with winning records. And lost 3 of them. Worry about the trouble your own team is in before spouting off about the team with the 3rd best record in all of football.

  52. If the Vikings were losing 70-6, Favre would have faked another injury to get himself out of the game. His history proves that he always does this. He tries to save his embarrassment. He always acts like there’s something wrong, but never bad enough that would cause him to miss the following week. Example: 2006, he’s getting blown out by the Patriots at home. Fakes an ankle injury and leaves the game. Example: 2005 I think it was…getting blown out by the Ravens, he fakes an injury and leaves the game. Example: 2007 getting his ass kicked by the Cowboys. Fakes another injury by a weak ass hit and leaves the game. He lets his backup play cleanup. That was the game he never should have left because it finally showed that Rodgers was turning into a decent player.

  53. Why is this is a surprise? I have been watching this team for many years and one thing people forget is this….Chilly is still the head coach. Why is that downplayed so much?
    This is the same coach that every Vikings fan wanted his head on a platter for the last couple of seasons. You think one player was going to magically change the head coach? He’s still the same choking moron from the last few years. They won’t win because of him when it counts.
    Not to mention Favre added in the mix and it’s even worse come playoff time. And now Peterson doesn’t know how to rush for 100 yards anymore and you are really in trouble.
    This team what it is. An above average team that had a cupcake schedule and they took advantage of it. I don’t care where the game is, a team like the Eagles will put them out of the playoffs in a minute. Get ready for the season implosion in a few weeks.

  54. Not cool when I click on a couple of links expecting stories and all I get are a couple useless Twitter comment pages. From nobodies saying nothing. I don’t click through on these story links often and if this is the norm well I guess there’s no reason to.

  55. Uhhh…Majik Man
    Not sure what the Patriots have to do with this argument. This is an NFL football board and being a fan of the game qualifies me to comment on all 32 teams. If that’s too much for you, and you can’t handle outside opinions, go to a Vikings board.
    But I’ll play along with your red herring argument anyway. While the Pats are a good, solid team, this year’s Pats team is about the 6th or 7th most talented team of the 10 this decade. Did you ever hear me say this was the best Pats team ever? No. I guess I should be thankful when a team that is still in line for a playoff berth can be considered an overall disappointment. Shows me how far the organization has come.
    Re: their best player quitting, I haven’t seen Tom Brady quit at all this year. And if you’re referring to Randy Moss, then you haven’t obviously been watching any of the games, just buying into the media spin. I can’t help you there.
    If you’d been a fan of the Vikings for, say, more than 4 or 5 months, instead of jumping from team to team, you’d know what kind of player Randy Moss is.

  56. I hope the Vikings have already put last nights game behind them because that was a pathetic attempt at trying to be a professional football team.

  57. I do know what kind of player Moss is, do you? I watched him walk off the field before the game was over once. I watched him say “I play when I want to play” in a press conference. I watched him do nothing in Oakland because he was pissed. And I watched him give up last Sunday against Carolina.
    As far as this being an NFL board, I’m aware of this. That’s why when a Pats fan comes on a Vikes thread to bash them, it’s totally acceptable for me to in turn bash his team. I never accused you of saying this was the best Pats team ever. Just saying that fans of average teams shouldn’t bash superior teams for losing a game, unless their team issued the beating.

  58. It never ceases to amaze me how many morons post on this website. If I ever start feeling down about myself it is easy to come here read a few posts and say well at least I am not that guy.
    I am a Vikings, and the lost last night was pretty embarrassing, but it is not the end of the world. The fact that Chilly and Brett had a “heated” discussion on his playing status is not a big deal either. If the Vikings are going anywhere in the post season we are going to need #4 healthy, and he was being clobbered last night. So I can understand why the coach would want to take him out. Also players like Favre, Manning, Brees, and I would hope almost all other professional athletes are competitors through and through and probably do not like the idea of being taken out in a close game. If Favre would have just said okay and taken a seat I would have been a little more worried then him not wanting to come out of the game.
    As it sits the Vikings even with the Loss have won their division. Clearly I am sure they would like to get as many home games as possible, but this is not the end of the world. They will need to get out there next week and get the job done.

  59. fans of average teams shouldn’t bash superior teams for losing a game, unless their team issued the beating
    ^^^^^
    Thanks for the etiquette lesson. If stating that your team layed and egg and was exposed against an inferior team is bashing, then wow, you have a really thin skin.
    Just to keep things in perspective, fans of the Patriots endure bitter, jealous fans of 31 teams, who are frothing at the mouth to discredit everything our team has accomplished, or insist that our QB is a deadbeat dad, or proclaim that the dynasty is dead, etc. all while another division title beckons.
    If Pats fans can endure the above, then I think you can endure a little constructive criticism about your newly adopted team. Unless you think the criticism is true, in which case you and your fellow fans are going to be eating a lot of crow for the foreseeable future.

  60. Oh and Majik Man, since my earlier post vanished, I do not buy any of the nonsense about Favre’s alleged arm injury being the reason for his meltdown last season. Not for a minute.
    We’ll see what he’s made of next Monday Night in Chicago. I have a feeling that we are in the midst of yet another late season meltdown, as anybody with a shred of objectivity knew would happen.

  61. hayward giablommi says: December 21, 2009 12:05 PM
    Oh and Majik Man, since my earlier post vanished, I do not buy any of the nonsense about Favre’s alleged arm injury being the reason for his meltdown last season. Not for a minute.
    _____________
    Are you serious? You don’t think that a torn bicep in his throwing arm had a negative impact on his performance last year? It wasn’t an “alleged” injury, it was 100% verified. He had surgery to repair it. I get it, you don’t like Favre, but don’t be ridiculous. You’re starting to act like the Brady dead beat dad bashers, just grasping at nonsense to spew your unjustifiable hatred.

  62. You know what’s amazing…….is that everytime the focus is on this bullsh!t vikes team that little worm jeff starts harping on Packer fans. Really jeff….is that the best you got. Spit pervy out for a minute a give us real run down of why your team won’t take a big dump in the playoffs. Your coach is a wuss, can’t control his diva, egomaniac at QB. Said QB is ready for social security and should have stayed home by his performance last night, and AD, AKA all day peterson unless a defense shows up, can only muster 3 yds maybe per carry. Your creampuff schedule won’t be able to hide you much longer. Farve can’t carry you, you guys still need a QB. Good luck in LA! LMAO

  63. Hey percy harvin,
    Did you change your Log In name you weeny?
    That would be pretty soft if you did!

  64. jeff says:
    December 21, 2009 8:27 AM
    Isn’t it amazing that the Packers got beat by a team that was on a long losing streak, yet they are on a Vikings thread making fun of Favre?
    No, I guess not, that is what Packer fans do. Idiots!
    —————————–
    Isn’t it amazing that when the Vikings lost to the Steelers you’d describe them as the reigning Super Bowl champs, yet when they play the Packers they’re “a team that was on a long losing streak”?
    Regarding the Packers’ loss… I was disappointed with it, but I thought it might be coming. Getting beaten by the Browns on Thursday night was the worst thing for the Packers. Beaten by a terrible team in primetime.. 10 days to prepare for your next opponent (at home).. It has rebound win written all over it. Just like the 4-4 Packers beating Dallas after losing to Tampa.
    Anyway, back to Brett and the Vikings. This is what Packers fans have been predicting (and praying for) since Childress picked up Favre at the airport. Maybe you thought we’d all whistle and look the other way instead of standing on our rooftops, facing west and screaming, “WE TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!!”
    Take the medicine, jeff. Your boys stunk up the joint against a bad, bad team. Don’t change the subject. Just absorb it and take it all in.

  65. “Childress tried to take Favre out in third quarter”
    He tried to take him out? What, for a nice dinner and a movie?

  66. Adam
    Did you enjoy watching Jarret Bush and Josh Bell in the secondary last night? Get used to it, Harris or Williams will be gone next year, maybe both, so get used to seeing 500 yard passers.

  67. This after the MN media has been pimping McKinnie as someone who ought to be a pro bowl starter. Of course, they basically think the entire NFC team should be wearing lavender. Hilarious.

  68. Majik Man says:
    December 21, 2009 4:05 PM
    Adam
    Did you enjoy watching Jarret Bush and Josh Bell in the secondary last night? Get used to it, Harris or Williams will be gone next year, maybe both, so get used to seeing 500 yard passers.
    —-
    Yeah that happens alot. How long has Green Bay been without Harris and Williams? Is their depth hurt? Yes. Do we need to get used to 500 yard passers? That’s absurd.

  69. Shitterson;
    Were they or were they not on a 5 game losing streak?
    Yeah, that’s what I thought.
    I never said anything about the Vikings. Yes they laid a gigantic turd last night, but it wasn’t on Favre.
    Losing 1 game to an inferior team does not implode the season.
    SO put your drum and bugle away, your team isn’t even in the playoffs yet.
    As much as you would like it to happen the team and Favre are not falling apart.
    So when it doesn’t, I will aim my ass east and fart in your general direction.

  70. Majik- Did you ever think you would be fighting tooth and nail to defend the Vikings?
    Harris has been out for the last 4 weeks and I didn’t see anything exposed during that time, and I didn’t yesterday. Bush gave up 2 big ones, but the reality is that Big Ben played one hell of a game. I was happy with how ou…I mean the Packers offense played, lots of grit from Rodgers, but in the end we got beat by a team that played with a lot more heart than they had been. Ben’s performance yesterday was frustrating, but fun to watch.

  71. Super
    I was referring to next year, when Williams bolts for a bigger payday, and Harris is possibly cut because he is too old for the Ted-ophile. And even if Harris doesn’t get cut, it doesn’t sound like he’ll be at full strength, and he will be 35.
    So like I said, get used to Bush and Bell.

  72. Majik Man says:
    December 21, 2009 4:05 PM
    Adam
    Did you enjoy watching Jarret Bush and Josh Bell in the secondary last night? Get used to it, Harris or Williams will be gone next year, maybe both, so get used to seeing 500 yard passers.
    —————————–
    But Pat Williams is going to play forever?
    If I were a knee-jerk reactionary idiot like you, maybe I would be scared. But I prefer to look at the big picture. And in advance, yeah, this doesn’t include week 15.
    2009 Defensive Passer Rating through Week 14
    4 Green Bay 68.3
    22 Minnesota 90.29
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/2_999_Def._Passer_Rating.html

  73. Adam
    Awesome for the Packers. 68.3 opposing QB rating, good enough for 4th in the league, and a 2nd place finish in their division.
    And what does Pat Williams have to do with this. Last I checked, the Vikings haven’t given up a 500 yard rusher lately. The Packers did give up a 500 yard passer, which is why I brought up the secondary.
    If you were really looking at the big picture, you would see that the Pack’s secondary is in trouble. Especially in the playoffs, where they will face either the Cards, with Warner, Fitz, and Boldin, or Philly, the number 2 scoring offense in the league, on the road. If Big Ben can hang a half K on them, what do you think will happen against those 2?

  74. Majik Man says:
    December 21, 2009 5:33 PM
    Adam
    Awesome for the Packers. 68.3 opposing QB rating, good enough for 4th in the league, and a 2nd place finish in their division.
    And what does Pat Williams have to do with this. Last I checked, the Vikings haven’t given up a 500 yard rusher lately. The Packers did give up a 500 yard passer, which is why I brought up the secondary.
    If you were really looking at the big picture, you would see that the Pack’s secondary is in trouble. Especially in the playoffs, where they will face either the Cards, with Warner, Fitz, and Boldin, or Philly, the number 2 scoring offense in the league, on the road. If Big Ben can hang a half K on them, what do you think will happen against those 2?
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    Well we do not know. But it will sure be interesting will it not? If GB can qualify.

  75. Adam you are correct as far as the knee jerk reactions. The vast majority on this site do not realize this doesnt start until December. Minnesota still controls their destiny as far as a bye.

  76. Majik Man says:
    December 21, 2009 4:55 PM
    Super
    I was referring to next year, when Williams bolts for a bigger payday, and Harris is possibly cut because he is too old for the Ted-ophile. And even if Harris doesn’t get cut, it doesn’t sound like he’ll be at full strength, and he will be 35.
    So like I said, get used to Bush and Bell.

    Im no front office expert. But who would pay Tramon coming of knee issues? Maybe you have the answers. If you work in the NFL I definitely am interested in your take.

  77. Majik Man says:
    December 21, 2009 5:33 PM
    Adam
    Awesome for the Packers. 68.3 opposing QB rating, good enough for 4th in the league, and a 2nd place finish in their division.
    And what does Pat Williams have to do with this. Last I checked, the Vikings haven’t given up a 500 yard rusher lately. The Packers did give up a 500 yard passer, which is why I brought up the secondary.
    If you were really looking at the big picture, you would see that the Pack’s secondary is in trouble. Especially in the playoffs, where they will face either the Cards, with Warner, Fitz, and Boldin, or Philly, the number 2 scoring offense in the league, on the road. If Big Ben can hang a half K on them, what do you think will happen against those 2?
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    Yep, second place in the division. But weren’t you saying the Packers would be battling the Lions for the cellar this year? Or was that Ragnar prior to the chickenwing/jeff days?
    What does Pat Williams have to do with it? He’s an aging player who will be gone soon. And he’s a huge part of the reason the Vikings have been so good against the run the last few years.
    I brought him up because you seem to think only the Packers have players who age. It’s as if you think the fountain of youth is a faucet at Winter Park. If that were true, wouldn’t Childress have hair?
    And Tramon Williams will most likely be signed. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t get signed. They need him back.

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