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Indianapolis politician thinks Colts fans deserve a refund

Two days later, Indianapolis fans are still furious that coach Jim Caldwell gave up on a chance at a perfect season and removed Peyton Manning and other key players in the third quarter of the Colts’ loss to the Jets.

Those fans are joined in their fury by a powerful local politician.

Beurt SerVaas, a former councilman who overcame an oddly spelled name to become one of the most influential people in the city, has drafted a City-County Council resolution demanding that the NFL refund the money paid for tickets.

SerVaas was incensed that the Colts decided not to go for the win on Sunday and he doesn’t think it’s fair to charge full price for tickets to a game the Colts aren’t trying to win. However, he apparently doesn’t have anyone on the council willing to sponsor his resolution.

“Everyone likes to play Monday-morning quarterback,” said Republican Ryan Vaughn, who is described by the Indianapolis Star as both the likely next council president and a season-ticket holder. “I think we have better things to do with our time than second-guess the decisions made by the Colts coaches.”

Even if the council did pass such a resolution, the odds of the NFL refunding fans’ tickets are exactly zero. But it’s hard to blame the folks in Indianapolis for being angry.

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  1. jamaltimore says: Dec 29, 2009 9:52 AM

    Finally some payback for stealing the team and the history from Baltimore where it still belongs.
    Let’s hope they keep losing in the playoffs!

  2. Favre On HGH says: Dec 29, 2009 9:53 AM

    Dont think the non season ticket holders expected to see the scrub team play for half the game.

  3. ravensos says: Dec 29, 2009 9:54 AM

    is this councilman aware of Preseason ticket practices?

  4. GoBrowns19 says: Dec 29, 2009 9:55 AM

    If the Colts win the SB, Caldwell, Polian, and Irsay will still be villified I’d think. A shot at something nobody else has ever done in the history of the NFL and they say ‘no thanks’. And on top of that, they put such a negative light on the current team status, that it’ll be interesting to see if they fold in the playoffs again. I wouldn’t want to play SD running on MOST cylinders.

  5. packerfanfornot4life says: Dec 29, 2009 9:58 AM

    okay so if a lineman had rolled up on Manning later in the game and tweaked his knee or worse and forced him to leave the game and miss a few weeks (i know its never happened but it could) or at least limited him during the playoffs the same whiners would be calling for the coaches head saying he limited his teams chances of winning it all. plus politicians have much bigger concerns in this current economy than football games.

  6. curtisclontz says: Dec 29, 2009 9:59 AM

    or foam fingers!!!
    http://curtisandkyle.com/2009/12/26/kobe-vs-lebron-and-the-flying-foam-fingers/

  7. rh44 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:01 AM

    Jim Irsay is the one to blame, not the NFL. That order to tank the game came from the very top.

  8. mike says: Dec 29, 2009 10:01 AM

    My brother did some stage work for the NFL 2 years ago and they didn’t pay him until almost a year later!! Trust me when I say the NFL is not refunding anyone!

  9. Scrip Club Lover says: Dec 29, 2009 10:01 AM

    But it’s hard to blame the folks in Indianapolis for being angry.
    Bitch, please. Ask any Bills, Lions, Chiefs, Browns, or Raiders season ticket holder whether a Colts fan has a right to be angry that their team threw away one game. Our teams have been pissing away wins for years and we’ve never been given a refund for watching crap football.

  10. BenRapistberger says: Dec 29, 2009 10:01 AM

    Come their first playoff game, it will have been a month since these guys played a full game, and longer since they played a meaningful one. Rest = Rust.

  11. Mean D says: Dec 29, 2009 10:02 AM

    This buffoon has got to be a democrap.

  12. Reasonable says: Dec 29, 2009 10:03 AM

    The “sitting” didn’t start until Dungy arrived. The Colts are 1-3 when resting their players. All 4 games where @ Indy.
    08 Lost Chargers 23-17
    07 Lost Chargers 28-24
    05 Lost Pittsburgh 21-18
    04 Won Denver 49-24 (lost the next week @NE)

  13. chunky soupy sales says: Dec 29, 2009 10:03 AM

    The only way to get these idiots to hear you is to stay at home during the games, but no one EVER does that.
    They bitch that they are through with getting screwed and then go right back to the stadium next week, while the owner wipes his rear with their money.

  14. hayward giablommi says: Dec 29, 2009 10:05 AM

    Sure, Colts fans should be pissed, but it’s hard to feel too bad for them considering they are the whiniest fan base in the league by far.

  15. wyoff says: Dec 29, 2009 10:06 AM

    Colts fans are furious about the tanking, and rightfully so. Bill Polian, as skillfully a PR man as there ever was, basically mocked them on his radio show yesterday. Then, when the fans got under his skin, he abruptly ended the show: http://www.stampedeblue.com/2009/12/28/1222925/bill-polian-called-out-by-colts
    I hope the Colts lose in the Divisional Round. It would serve them right.

  16. DayAllOnJuice says: Dec 29, 2009 10:06 AM

    What a complete waste of taxpayer time and money to get your name in the paper.

  17. zilla1126 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:06 AM

    I’m pretty sure that anyone who follows the Colts had a pretty good idea that the last couple of games would be less than competitive BEFORE they bought their tickets.
    This is what they do each year if they can.

  18. Tdk24 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:07 AM

    I was watching that game thinking the same thing. These fans deserve a refund. You go to see a shot at history, the last 2 games and they pull that crap on you? That’s worse than losing the superbowl. It’s a major letdown.

  19. nationscapital10 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:07 AM

    If the fans are angry than they should become fans of another team…how about the Dallas Cowboys. America’s team. Eagles fans got something coming to you on Sunday..its called a SWEEP!
    Vikings fans and Saints fans are shaking in their boots, it will be an all nfc east battle for the nfc championship!!!

  20. zygi milf says: Dec 29, 2009 10:07 AM

    Move them back to Baltimore where they belong; move the Ravens back to Cleveland; blow up the current Browns.
    Then, they won’t have to worry about refunds, or losing to the Chargers again in the playoffs.
    Don’t politicians have more important things to worry about?

  21. rodstiffington says: Dec 29, 2009 10:08 AM

    Politician’s… who are wasting time AND tax payer money? Is this a new thing or something? I’ve never heard of such a thing.

  22. gforce89 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:08 AM

    I understand the anger and think this may send the Colts into a tailspin. It would be nice to see them fall apart because they decided to give up, at home, against a weaker team.

  23. curtisclontz says: Dec 29, 2009 10:10 AM

    Everyone knew going into the game that their was a chance they were going to sit Peyton…Sure, people can complain but they don’t have a leg to stand on at all.

  24. Cowboyfan66 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:11 AM

    Face it, that was Caldwell’s ONLY coaching decision he’s had to make all season! He’s a token who inherited a ready-made, championship caliber team. Why he wears a headset is beyond me. Is it on? What’s he listening to?
    All he had to do is stand there and stay out of the team’s way, and he blew it.

  25. stiller43 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:13 AM

    Damn straight. There’s no sound logic in charging fans full price for the game if you’re not playing full out. That was my first thought in watching the game…well, after thinking how they’re affecting my Steelers and other 7-7 teams that have to play actual games to get in to the playoffs.

  26. The Coop says: Dec 29, 2009 10:13 AM

    You know, there are fans of lots of teams who haven’t enjoyed the success as Colts fans over the past several years. I’m a Browns fan. The entire organization has been a joke for the last 20+ years.
    So, Colts fans and politicians, do everyone a favor, sit down and STFU.

  27. straverse says: Dec 29, 2009 10:14 AM

    I hate when politicians get involved with sports. Don’t they have better things to worry about? It’s so obvious that its a lame PR boosting attempt.
    And nationscapital10, The Eagles are going to crush the Cowboys on Sunday, but it unfortunately won’t be a sweep.

  28. borg says: Dec 29, 2009 10:16 AM

    These Indy folks should zip the lip, and concentrate on slammin their farm animals

  29. dead money says: Dec 29, 2009 10:18 AM

    I stopped reading right after “Indianapolis politician”
    Whadda tool.

  30. PFTiswhatitis says: Dec 29, 2009 10:20 AM

    Irsay and Polian deserve to wear this scarlet letter for eternity. There is no room in football for people like that.

  31. DarnSkippy says: Dec 29, 2009 10:22 AM

    Why should the NFL have to refund money for a decision that was made entirely by the Indianapolis Colts? I’d like to see him say the Colts need to refund the money but that would hurt the bailout of their their precious little stadium we payed for.

  32. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 10:27 AM

    This just goes to show what a podunk town Idianoplace is. If this guy is one of the most influencial people in the city, pathetic. First of all, the Colts didn’t “give away” the game. They still tried to win even if they were outmanned given the number of starters they pulled. It was for a higher purpose. Secondly, how is this really any different than 4 meaningless pre-season games (especially, the last 2). Should we get our elected officials to somehow try and get a refund for these as well? Ridiculous. What a moron.
    Instead of being up in arms about this, why can’t you look at from a different perspective. Fans of teams such as the Redskins, Lions, Browns, etc would kill to be in this position, 14-0 or not!!!!!!!!

  33. goJags says: Dec 29, 2009 10:28 AM

    If the colts fan deserve refund, we (The jags fan) deserve refund on most of our games. The Detroit and St. Louis rams fan complete refund for the whole season.

  34. Not a member? says: Dec 29, 2009 10:28 AM

    Lose, lose decision for the Colts. They had a chance at History and passed it up. If they lose in the playoffs it’ll be because they were “rusty”. If they win the superbowl, it’ll be “they could have made history”.
    Ask yourself, who won the superbowl in 2006, 1995, 1972? If you’re like most people you had to think real hard or probably google the first 2. No thinking required for 1972.
    History, the Colts could have made History. Dumb decision!

  35. extreme469 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:29 AM

    Politicians are scum…this is none of their business. What a joke.

  36. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 10:30 AM

    Indianoplace fans are the whiniest and DUMBEST fans on the planet…..they should have gone for perfect as they will be bounced from the playoffs as usual……..the typical Manning choke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. jecates says: Dec 29, 2009 10:30 AM

    Can everyone in Indianapolis get a refund on some of their taxes? I’m sure they weren’t expecting to pay for this kind of idiocy when they elected the guy.
    Caldwell is now in a lose/lose position from the public opinion perspective. If the Colts lose before the Superbowl, it will be seen as the result of resting the guys too early. If they win the Superbowl, fans will be happy about the trophy, but furious that it could’ve been a trophy AND an undefeated season.
    And for the apologists saying “what if Manning had gotten hurt”… that’s a risk every game, but this game had hardly any pressure on Manning at all. Pulling the starters revealed that taking Manning out of the game could easily allow another team to defeat them. If you think there won’t be any wink-wink/nudge-nudge game planning to try and hurt him, you’re living in la-la-land.
    I’m a Titans fan, often annoyed by my brother-in-law’s incessant jubilation about the Colts, and this still pissed me off.

  38. Serr8d says: Dec 29, 2009 10:34 AM

    Pull Superhero Peyton Manning from the game, and it seems you have a first-year coach with a rookie under center.
    Q. What is Indy gonna do when Peyton Manning is gone (becoming the bestest-ever Head Coach) ?
    A. Los Angeles gets a team.

  39. KingJoe! says: Dec 29, 2009 10:38 AM

    Politicians are the scum of the earth. What business does this total scumbag have creating a negative atmosphere for a team that has been a winning 11-14 games a year for 10 years. This backwards jackoff simply is using the Colts to promote himself. The team is the number 1 superbowl contender and this nut-job is trying to wrile up the fans? Oh where do they make these people?

  40. hk94 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:38 AM

    The decision to lay down will cost the Colts (and ultimately the NFL) something much more than an undefeated season or some angry fans.
    The league’s precious “parity” and “any given Sunday” has lost all credibility when teams are willingly fielding a squad that they know isn’t competitive. It isn’t a far jump to go from putting in a QB who never played in the NFL against the leagues’ #1 defense, to hearing cries of collusion.

  41. grouchomarx1 says: Dec 29, 2009 10:40 AM

    Is someone up for re-election because it sounds like another blowhard politician blowing his usual smoke up someone’s wazzoo.

  42. giantcatfanhouse says: Dec 29, 2009 10:47 AM

    Panther fans should be ahead of the Colts in the refund line, for the coach NOT pulling the starting QB.

  43. steveinohio says: Dec 29, 2009 10:53 AM

    It’s a shame that this old trick still works. If you are a nobody politician and you want to advertise yourself, say something outrageous and the media will make you known. sheep.

  44. DirtMcGirt24 says: Dec 29, 2009 11:00 AM

    The total cost of Lucas Oil Stadium was $720 million. The stadium is being financed with funds raised by the State of Indiana and the City of Indianapolis, with the Indianapolis Colts providing $100 million. Marion County has raised taxes for food and beverage sales, auto excise taxes, innkeeper’s taxes and admission taxes for its share of the costs. Meanwhile, an increase in food and beverage taxes in the eight surrounding doughnut counties (with the exception of Morgan County) and the sale of Colts license plates.
    So, if said taxpayers (who in any other business would own the stadium) are all upset about the fact that the team they enable to play threw the game, why is unreasonable for their elected representative (who may still be outraged that his constituents had to pay for the Irsay slime to have a new toy) to speak out against the team?
    It’s funny how everyone hates politicians. I’m sure no one was complaining when taxes went up to feed families in Indianapolis for the sake of must-have NFL. I’m sure no one was complaining when the Irsays had these vicious politicians by the throats a few years ago negotiating for them to build a new stadium or else they’d leave.
    And let’s not forget – they already had a stadium. But how dare anyone speak out against the NFL. The politicians have “better things to do”, a $700 million dollar stadium paid for by their constituents notwithstanding.

  45. straverse says: Dec 29, 2009 11:01 AM

    This-
    steveinohio says:
    It’s a shame that this old trick still works. If you are a nobody politician and you want to advertise yourself, say something outrageous and the media will make you known. sheep.

  46. BostonGuy says: Dec 29, 2009 11:01 AM

    The Colts have NO balls. Sorry Peyton, pull up your skirt and take a seat.

  47. Mr. Noitall says: Dec 29, 2009 11:02 AM

    Please!
    The fans SHOULD NOT get their money back. It’s not like America gets their votes back for voting for a crappy President *cough* Obama *cough* or terrible politicians.
    Why should fans get their money back, just because the starters sat the second half? I’d rather have my starters rested/non-injured/alive come playoff time.
    Indy fans and this idiotic politician need to quit whining. Their team is in the playoffs, what are they complaining about.

  48. Richm2256 says: Dec 29, 2009 11:02 AM

    Scrip Club Lover says:
    Bitch, please. Ask any Bills, Lions, Chiefs, Browns, or Raiders season ticket holder whether a Colts fan has a right to be angry that their team threw away one game. Our teams have been pissing away wins for years and we’ve never been given a refund for watching crap football.
    ————————————————–
    I don’t agree with this refund BS, but PLEASE, no one put a gun to your head to buy tickets to see a team that you KNEW played crap football.
    STFU.
    Colts fans also had been reading for two weeks that Manning might be pulled from a game the rest of the season, so they all can stop their whining too.

  49. Jose Reyes says: Dec 29, 2009 11:05 AM

    Agreed. Totally Agree. But the government shouldn’t be involved.

  50. kappa08 says: Dec 29, 2009 11:10 AM

    “Everyone likes to play Monday-morning quarterback,” said Republican Ryan Vaughn, who is described by the Indianapolis Star as both the likely next council president and a season-ticket holder. “I think we have better things to do with our time than second-guess the decisions made by the Colts coaches.”…how original a Republican backing the d**ks…some thing will NEVER “change”…..F the people that got ripped….

  51. dead money says: Dec 29, 2009 11:10 AM

    I stopped reading right after “Indianapolis politician”
    Whadda tool.

  52. Samuel L. Bronkowitz says: Dec 29, 2009 11:17 AM

    Word to politician: STFU and do your job for a change…

  53. lezmaka says: Dec 29, 2009 11:17 AM

    If these politicians are so important and influential, why the hell haven’t I heard of anyone of them?

  54. Hodog16 says: Dec 29, 2009 11:19 AM

    “The “sitting” didn’t start until Dungy arrived. The Colts are 1-3 when resting their players. All 4 games where @ Indy.
    08 Lost Chargers 23-17
    07 Lost Chargers 28-24
    05 Lost Pittsburgh 21-18
    04 Won Denver 49-24 (lost the next week @NE)”
    ———
    The 2008 game was in San Diego. I remember hearing all the whining from the Colts fans (notice a trend?) about how a 12-4 wild card team should never play at an 8-8 divisional championship team’s place.

  55. dmoney37 says: Dec 29, 2009 11:20 AM

    If they pass a resolution here in Indy requiring full refunds for crap games, the Pacers will go bankrupt in a day.
    Worry not, everyone. The collapse has begun. Rest assured that after their playoff loss, we’ll all b meeting up with Peyton Manning at David’s Bridal to get him fitted for yet another bridesmaids’ dress.

  56. CT Stiller says: Dec 29, 2009 11:21 AM

    Awesome. It’s always great when politicians stick their noses into sports. What a doosh.

  57. footballfan says: Dec 29, 2009 11:25 AM

    This just goes to show how stupid the Indianapolis fans really are. I have lived in Indy for over 10 years and remember when they couldn’t sell out a game. They have forgotten what it was like to be a season ticket holder when the team would only win 2-3 games in a season. I just know when the team hits the tanks, just as they all do, the fan base will disappear again. History would give them nothing if they ended up like the Pats and didn’t get to take home the big trophy in the end. If they refund money to the fans then the people in Cleveland, St. Louis, Kansas City, and a few others better get theirs back for the whole season!! Hell, the Pittsburgh fans should get theirs back for the crappy season they have endured after a championship!!!

  58. This is not news says: Dec 29, 2009 11:30 AM

    If any fans deserve their money back, it is Detroit. They should get refunded for the whole Millen era.

  59. stanjam says: Dec 29, 2009 11:36 AM

    The Colts threw a game. The fans have every right to demand something is done IMO. They clearly threw a game on Sunday. That is bad on so many levels, but it is also expected. Polian does every dirty trick in the book to get his way. Look at the unholy influence he has in the league, especially the competition committee. He has rammed through stuff to protect Manning, and has made it impossible to cover the Colts so so receivers.
    How many games would the Colts have won if all the VERY questionable PI calls hadn’t been made in the second half of games? It seems to be a play in their playbook. Get behind, and we call a deep pass play. Make sure the ball isn’t catchable, but near enough so it isn’t called that, but far enough away so that the defender can’t be seen as going for the ball. Then have the receiver make sure he is close to the defender, or contact him, and bam! Instant PI call, and the Colts are in scoring range! It is pathetic.

  60. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 11:41 AM

    Again, it must be sad to have the greatest player of your “franchise” statued outside someone ELSE’S stadium (Unitas)
    ..and the loser Irsay had the gall to invite the ’75 Colts team for a reunion at the Texans game! Give me a break. Just because you have no history to celebrate doesn’t mean you celebrate someone else’s………really sad!

  61. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 11:43 AM

    Peyton Manning’s playoff record: 7-8…….nuff said!

  62. whatabunchofcrap says: Dec 29, 2009 11:46 AM

    The Colts have a lot of injured players right now. It’s best to get them healed and ready for the playoffs.
    These guys are sitting at home watching TV you know. They’re at the gym strengthening and at the field running routes, etc. They’re still active and improving the rusty parts of their game.
    You can’t hold history against them. Watch…they’ll be fine in the playoffs.

  63. straverse says: Dec 29, 2009 11:46 AM

    This is what I don’t get. Why are taxpayers still paying for stadiums?!? It makes NO sense. …In any sport. Why should a poor family in Gary, IN (who are also probably Bears fans) help finance some NFL team that is 3 hours away. We really could be better off with Ron Paul at the helm.
    DirtMcGirt24 says:
    It’s funny how everyone hates politicians. I’m sure no one was complaining when taxes went up to feed families in Indianapolis for the sake of must-have NFL. I’m sure no one was complaining when the Irsays had these vicious politicians by the throats a few years ago negotiating for them to build a new stadium or else they’d leave.

  64. Draken says: Dec 29, 2009 11:50 AM

    I agree that the odds of people getting a refunds are about zero. However there might be one other way for the city/people to attack this. How about an investigation into throwing the game or point shaving? What is the difference between what the Colts did and either of those? Overboard? I wonder if there will be a line on the Colts or Cinci game this week.
    To me the real issue isn’t the “perfect season” but rather the fact that the integrity of ther whole NFL play off system is now in question. The system is based on teams trying to win games, now obviously there are situations where it is to a teams advantage to lose a game. Look at the Cinci match up this week. HMMM Bronco’s , Jets, Ravens for a third time or Steelers also for a third time. Oh if I lose then I get one of the first two…. HMMMMMM Carson and Ocho better bring their seat warmers

  65. Thomas says: Dec 29, 2009 11:52 AM

    I want to answer the argument of “what if someone had rolled over on Peyton’s leg in the 4th quarter, then what would you think of the decision to play?” First of all, it wouldn’t change my mind one bit about the decision, because these athletes are paid millions of dollars to play football. Football is here for our entertainment, and when there are 2 games toward the end of a season where a team completely sandbags, that degrades the product. Poor fans who bought tickets for those games got completely screwed. The expectation needs to be that you play your starters. You win the game. Then, if someone does get injured in the process, there’s no “shouldn’t have been playing” because the standard is to play. I wish this politician could get that bill passed.

  66. satchboogie says: Dec 29, 2009 12:03 PM

    LOL at the Pats fans on here. They are so irrevelant that they just can’t help themeselves. Maybe if you losers wouldn’t have choked of 4th and 2 the Colts would have lost and would have had something to play for against the Jets. Sure Manning is average in the Post season, but at least he didn’t have to cheat to win his Super Bowl. Pats fans can run their mouths all they want but there is one deniable fact. The Pats had to cheat to win Super Bowls. The Pats be known as cheaters long after what the Colts did this week is forgotten!

  67. houstonsimpleton says: Dec 29, 2009 12:06 PM

    Okay a__hole, what’s SerVaas’ political affiliation? The only reason to mention party affiliation of a nay-sayer, but not the yea-sayer, is to naysay the affiliation. For life of me, can’t figure out why sports media choose to inject into their spheres of popularity a political preference for one side or the other. And thereby alienate the other side, or one side. How dumb is it to gratuitously turn off half your audience. You’re an idiot, Florio. Not adept, adroit, or astute. Damned addled, asinine, and astupid. The typical savvy of a liberal ideologue.
    Okay, I feel better. How about sticking with football, dumbass?

  68. redsquare says: Dec 29, 2009 12:07 PM

    What fan wants their team to intentionally not win a game? It’s crazy, it defies all logic. Besides, what evidence is there that resting starters, especially when you already have home field advantage, actually helps you win the SB?
    The Colts have already lost something precious, something much more rare than a Super Bowl win.
    Now, even if they win the Super Bowl, fans everywhere will be thinking, “what if?” After a SB win, looking back to one and a quarter easy games away from perfection will haunt the team forever.
    In supposedly helping themselves toward their goal of a SB, the team has already made it a hollow victory, even if it comes. And after this week, who will have more hunger for it–the Colts, Chargers, or Patriots?
    The Colts leadership has given the team one message this last week: we don’t trust you to win it all. You’re not good enough, not strong enough, you’re weak and need protecting.
    The Chargers and Patriots are getting much different messages, I bet.

  69. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 12:38 PM

    The Colts shouldn’t have been 14-0 to begin with. They are good but they are not THAT good. They benefitted from beating the odds and a lot of luck. They should be about 11-4 right now at best anyway. The hard truth is, odds ALWAYS catch up…..and guess where these odds WILL catch up with them……the playoffs. You can only beat the odds for so long!

  70. Fanamine says: Dec 29, 2009 12:40 PM

    I find it irrevelant that someone thinks the Pats are irrelevant. First, I need to know what irrevelant means. I am sure it must be bad. If there is one deniable fact? Doesn’t that mean the Pats’ cheating can be denied as opposed to not denied? Now, they are off the hook.
    Has anyone considered the Colts wanted the Jets to win on purpose? I know it is a reach of a theory, but the Jets are less of a threat in the post-season to the Colts than the Steelers or Ravens. Perhaps, it is a bit far-fetched, but most stories here are exactly that.

  71. jpt says: Dec 29, 2009 12:40 PM

    Indy fans wanting refunds are idiots. I agree with what berg posted.

  72. Serr8d says: Dec 29, 2009 12:40 PM

    Beurt SerVaas is a Republican. All successful businessmen are Republicans. Because Democrats care more about pandering to loser-looters and buying the looter vote with Other People’s Money, seldom do they have need to learn the skillsets necessary to make their own money. Why should they, when they can win with the votes of the needy masses who always want something for nothing?

  73. straverse says: Dec 29, 2009 12:52 PM

    Serr8d- Nice narrow-minded viewpoint. Al Gore has been as good of a businessman as anyone. Same goes for Clinton. I have no affiliation with either party, but your statement is ridiculous.

  74. whatabunchofcrap says: Dec 29, 2009 12:53 PM

    golongboyee…how can you say the Colts shouldn’t have been 14-0? The last time I checked, there were 60 minutes in a game. And, the last time I checked, the Colts had more points on the board than their opponents in those 14 games. I think that means, if I understand football rules, that they won those games.
    Some teams make their mistakes at the front of the game and some make them at the end. It all comes into play at the end. There’s no rules that state you must make your stupid mistakes in the first half! The team with the most points at the end wins.
    Squeakers don’t mean they shouldn’t have won. It just means it was competitive at that time.
    Every team across the league has had close wins.

  75. Philtration says: Dec 29, 2009 1:05 PM

    Maybe they should ask the Colts season ticket holders in Baltimore how they feel about it.
    Some people need to know when to shut the hell up.

  76. Furious George says: Dec 29, 2009 1:06 PM

    @satchboogie
    actually Manning is BELOW average in the playoffs. 7-8 is BELOW .500. and the Lolts certainly DID CHEAT to get into the SB. they have been caught pumping in fake crowd noise for years, disrupting opposing teams offenses. they also admitted to cranking up the heat in the stadium and locker room in the playoffs when they found out the Pats all were dehydrated and had the flu. even more, Polian has had to change the rules to get into the playoffs…. now you tell me who the cheats are…..

  77. whatabunchofcrap says: Dec 29, 2009 1:12 PM

    Furious George…I’d like the links to those articles. I can’t find any such admission.
    WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP!

  78. stetai says: Dec 29, 2009 1:23 PM

    Between the Mayor of Green Bay passing laws to change street signs and disparage Brett Favre, and this Indiana guy, I vote for a Federal law to be passed to stop local politicians to stop grandstanding on behalf of the NFL. Shouldn’t you all be keeping our streets safe, balancing budgets, and building bridges and stuff. We didn’t elect you for your viewpoints on sports.

  79. Serr8d says: Dec 29, 2009 1:24 PM

    straverse- Al Gore is a political scam artist. His ‘business’ successes were enabled by leveraging far-left political ideology to create a new ‘business’ model, ‘carbon credits’, from the junk science of global warmalism. He’s used fear mongering and scare tactics to create new wealth for himself. He is truly a misanthrope who really wants to see Earth’s population cut by 2/3rds, but was afraid of the backlash that would result from those statements. So, Al Gore embraced his Nobel-winning new methodology for achieving the same results, without paying a price for having said so.
    You do know that the so-called ‘e-mail scandal’ is actually the uncovering of the greatest scam in science this century, right?

  80. johnchrist says: Dec 29, 2009 2:05 PM

    Just ridiculous! What do you Indianapolis fans prefer, a chance at a perfect regular season or a chance at a Superbowl victory?
    Coach Caldwell’s job is to take his team to the Superbowl and if he beleives the best avenue for that is to rest up his players then that is his perogitive as head coach. There was no guarantee on your tickets that the starting players would play all 4 quarters, and even if they had there is still no guarantee that they would have won.

  81. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 2:11 PM

    Philtration……..yeah, so shut the hell up loser!

  82. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 2:13 PM

    Serr8d – you don’t really believe this garbage, do you?…..it is great for a laugh though. THX!

  83. stopjockin'myswag says: Dec 29, 2009 2:13 PM

    Guess what fellas—-the Colt’s FANS aren’t asking for a refund. Only the whack-job so-called-politican. Why??? Oh, I don’t know, maybe just to get his name in print, maybe he lost a bet? At anyrate, get off the fans—they didn’t start this mess. They just wanted to see the best players play the best game the could and maybe, just maybe see a no-loss season.

  84. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 2:35 PM

    Polian will be exposed for the sham he really is the day Manning retires and the Colts go 2-14 the next year.

  85. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 3:14 PM

    I agree stop. Colts fans aren’t asking for refunds because they probably do not know what the term “refund” means. LOL

  86. basedrum777 says: Dec 29, 2009 3:22 PM

    What the hell is going on? If Manning got hurt in the game would the fans be yelling he shouldn’t have even started? I think so…STFU.

  87. PurplePride45 says: Dec 29, 2009 3:41 PM

    Colts fans should get their money back for the entire season. This team is nothing compared to the Tony Dungy-coached teams of the past. Too bad.

  88. haroo says: Dec 29, 2009 3:48 PM

    Refund or apology will not fix it. I’m a colts fan, but I want Colts to lose so bad because of you Polian!
    Even if Colts win the SuperBowl – it will not matter. It’s over!
    Polian will be remembered as the biggest bonehead that ruined the best teams in NFL.

  89. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 4:22 PM

    basedrum777, moron………when is the last time Manning has been hurt in a game??????
    The Colts rested more than just Manning. If they had replaced Painter with Manning and kept everything else the same, the result would have been the same. The Colts should be ashamed for putting Painter out there with a patch-work team. The defense stunk as well as the offense!
    Manning has proven that he is most effective when playing consistently.

  90. PurplePride45 says: Dec 29, 2009 4:44 PM

    Manning is fragile. I would’ve yanked him too. He’s definitely no Bret “Iron Man” Favre.

  91. golongboyee says: Dec 29, 2009 5:07 PM

    I want to pass a law that no advertising ever be allowed on Peyton Manning’s forehead! As much as it IS a great idea and tons of money could be made, I think it would cheapen the game.
    I think it is ridiculous that he wants to sell space on that thing by the square inch. He is such a sell-out

  92. Indyeagle says: Dec 29, 2009 5:25 PM

    I think all of us citizens deserve a refund for all of these politicians sticking their noses in our sports. We turn to sports to get away from politics, not the other way around. Retired or not, stay the hell away from football. You idiots have already wasted enough time, energy and tax dollars on steroids in baseball and now have the audacity to challenge a private organization on their business practices? What a joke.
    Go print more monopoly money to feed and cloth the rest of the world while ignoring the poor and downtrodden in our own country you tool!

  93. Blue Horse Shoe says: Dec 29, 2009 7:25 PM

    “I think we have better things to do with our time than second-guess the decisions made by the Colts coaches.”
    When is the last time you paid for a Colts ticket?
    And if you think that was a coaches decision, then you are stupid, or getting paid off by Polian.

  94. Route36West says: Dec 29, 2009 7:34 PM

    I said that right after the game if I payed for a ticket I would be furious looking for a refund.
    Its a lil far fetched to think they will actually give their money back.
    I think what makes more sense is if the Colts and other teams set-up away for fans who bought season tickets or single game tickets early in the season to sell the tickets back to the team BEFORE the game starts in the final 2 weeks of the season.
    You never know when you buy tickets before the season if your teams is gonna basically forfeit the final couple games b/c their already in the playoffs.
    Now this should only be available to teams that have already clinched a playoff spot. You shouldnt be able to sell your tickets back b/c your team sucks. Also it this should only be available for fans who bought their tickets before a certain date.
    Because no one should be complaining about this if they bought their tickets when the Colts were 10-0. What did they think was going to happen?

  95. Serr8d says: Dec 29, 2009 8:40 PM

    golongboyee says: December 29, 2009 2:13 PM
    Serr8d – you don’t really believe this garbage, do you?…..it is great for a laugh though. THX!

    You don’t believe me, huh?
    (Shrugs) Read for yourself.

  96. texasPHINSfan says: Dec 30, 2009 1:58 PM

    The starters played into the 3rd quarter. This entire argument for “refund” and “getting your money’s worth” is a truckload full of bull to make the message sound better.
    The reality is the starters only missed just over a quarter of play. You can challenge the coach’s decision all you want, but crying foul for money’s worth? Give me a break.
    Don’t buy season tickets next year if you’re so damn adamant. Put your money where your mouth is.

  97. Scrip Club Lover says: Jan 1, 2010 12:24 PM

    I don’t agree with this refund BS, but PLEASE, no one put a gun to your head to buy tickets to see a team that you KNEW played crap football.
    STFU.

    That’s right. Given your logic, how many teams would have had half-full stadiums this year, 10-12?
    I can only assume that ‘your team’ is always the one that’s in first place. True fans buy tickets to support their team, regardless of how lousy they’re playing.
    Further, I would suggest that if you’re reading this site, you understand how passionate football fans are. To abandon your team is shameful.
    Shame on you.

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