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Mangini continues to compare Browns to Patriots

As Eric Mangini closes in on what could be his last game as head coach of the Browns, Mangini is trying his best to make a case for another crack at leading the team, given the impending arrival of Mike Holmgren as team president.

On Friday, Mangini dusted off his effort to compare the Browns to the Patriots.

Yes, the Patriots, who have won one fewer Super Bowl title this decade than the Browns have won games this season.

Asked Friday whether the Browns have “something special’ about them like the 2001 Patriots, Mangini had this to say:  “I feel like it’s a lot closer to that because what you see is guys, really take pleasure in somebody else’s success.  It’s not a function of, ‘I got a pick.   Let me go celebrate to the crowd.  Let me make sure everybody on TV knows who I am.’  It’s not that.  It’s not this personal ‘look at me’ type stuff.

“It’s more guys running down and jumping on top of each other and celebrating with each other, whether it’s offensively, defensively.  Special teams come off and everybody’s into [it].  The quarterbacks are into special teams tackles as much as anybody.  If someone’s not getting it there’s not a sense of anger towards that person or alienating him, it’s, ‘How can we help him understand this better?’ 

“When you get in that situation, good things happen. It’s not always easy to get there.  I think it’s more hard to do that than anything else, but when you do start approaching things that way it’s back to like the essence of team sports, where everybody’s all in.”

It sounds good, but then again the 2001 Patriots won the Super Bowl.  The 2009 Browns are going for a season-ending four-game winning streak against non-playoff teams, after losing 11 of 12 to start the year.

Mangini also paid a little homage to Eddie Haskell, smooching the rear end of the Big Show by praising his ability to assess quarterbacks.

“I think that what we are going to have to do is just take a step back and take some time,” Mangini said.  “There’s a real aid in having a guy like Mike [Holmgren] come in who’s got so much experience with quarterbacks and he’s a fresh set of eyes.  He can look at things objectively.  He can look at it in the context of his experiences.  I am sure he going to add great insight into that and analysis.  Being a defensive coach and not coaching that position you can analyze it in one context, but having someone who has coached it, who has been an offensive coordinator, a head coach he’s going to see it differently.  Also, there’s no bias.  He can just be objective.”

Mangini probably also thinks that whole “defensive coach” thing helps his cause, too, since the combination of an offensive mind and a defensive mind in theory gives the Browns the ability to put both ends together and win more than four or five games in 2010.

In our view, Mangini’s smartest move would be to abandon any efforts to subtly make his case through the media for a second season.  Holmgren is smart enough to see through the reality that Mangini thinks he’s smart enough to influence the process via backhanded comments made with his own self interests firmly in mind.

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30 Responses to “Mangini continues to compare Browns to Patriots”
  1. Florio-is-a-tool says: Jan 1, 2010 3:05 PM

    The more Mangini talks the more surprising it is he even has a single friend, no matter how loyal. What a weirdo.

  2. brownstown says: Jan 1, 2010 3:09 PM

    ‘Yes, the Patriots, who have won one fewer Super Bowl title this decade than the Browns have won games this season.’
    If you consider 2010 as starting a new decade, then the Browns and the Patriots both have zero Super Bowl victories in this decade…

  3. ampats says: Jan 1, 2010 3:11 PM

    Ratgini is going to be coaching mitey mites next year.

  4. wryly1 says: Jan 1, 2010 3:11 PM

    Same question as a year ago: Why would Browns want a head coach that no other team in the NFL would touch with a 10 foot pole? Same can be said of his offensive and defensive coordinators. Holmgren should – and will, clean house.

  5. johnnydom says: Jan 1, 2010 3:13 PM

    Shut up Mangini, pack your bags and don’t take any Browns gear with you when you are canned next week.

  6. smitty21 says: Jan 1, 2010 3:19 PM

    $10 says Troy Smith is QB’ing the Browns next year. I’m not even going to bother to put money on ManGina’s job security…. GOODBYE Eric.

  7. Pack_Attack says: Jan 1, 2010 3:21 PM

    I compare my girlfriend to Scarlett Johansson, doesnt make it so..

  8. speedy1383 says: Jan 1, 2010 3:23 PM

    Did the reporter bring up the 2001 Pats or Mangini? It makes a bit of a difference there. If Mangini brought up, then he deserves getting slammed. But if the reporter brought it up, then Mangini was just answering the question.

  9. ClevePhil says: Jan 1, 2010 3:24 PM

    First, Florio, Mangini didn’t compare the Browns to the 01 Pats, he was asked if there was a comparison between the two. He’s pointing out that the ethos of the team is changing from a “me first” mentality to a team mentality. (You know, the kind of thing we all praised the Patriots for building.) So, he got rid of the whiney, selfish players and started getting some smart, team players. Are they all Pro-Bowlers? No. But it’s a start.
    As far as saving his job, what’s he supposed to say? He was hired and told to make this a better team. NOBODY with any brains thought that would happen in a year. He needed to tear it down and re-build it, which is what is happening. Your constant harping about how he needs to get fired and all is getting old. By consistently banging the same drum over and over on this, and other issues, you’re rapidly becoming irrelevant, which, you know, sort of makes the reason for coming to your site irrelevant, also. Just thought you might want to think that one through.

  10. brownsfn says: Jan 1, 2010 3:29 PM

    Bye bye Mangini…

  11. HarrisonHits says: Jan 1, 2010 3:30 PM

    Geeze somebody take the crack pipe away from Ratgini. This guy is more delusional by the day, and if Holmgren doesn’t dump him that the Browns are in even worse trouble than they already are.

  12. nniifu says: Jan 1, 2010 3:31 PM

    “Asked Friday whether the Browns have “something special’ about them like the 2001 Patriots, Mangini had this to say:”
    ASKED! See how simple that word looks? Sounds kind of funny too. However, I’d say it’s probably key in your failed theory that Mangini is kissing the bosses ass via the media.
    Hey, it’s your lie though… tell it like you want to.

  13. bluenoser says: Jan 1, 2010 3:33 PM

    @ Brownstone
    the new decade doesn’t start for another year.
    The first year was not “0” and thus the end of the decade comes afterthe “10” is complete.
    Stay in the shallow end.

  14. jonesy1124 says: Jan 1, 2010 3:39 PM

    He’s an ass

  15. BleedGreen says: Jan 1, 2010 3:48 PM

    I agree with ClevePhil. NO ONE expected this season to be good for the Browns. If they finish 5-11, but on a 4 game win streak, then to me, thats progress. There was a LOT of roster turnover and you can’t, in 3 or 4 games, figure out who are your guys and who aren’t. So be brought in Jets backups… big deal. These were guys he KNOWS are mediocre at best, but they are cheap warm bodies to replace guys that are expensive warm bodies that don’t really help the team. Does anyone really think that if Winslow and Edwards were still there, they’d have won any more games?
    I guess what I’m trying to say is, you can dislike Mangini as a coach and a person, but you’re a PITTSBURGH fan Florio… why should anyone take your criticism seriously? If I, as an Eagles fan, started giving ‘advice’ and waxing poetic about what the Cowboys and Giants need to do with the front office, would anyone take my opinions seriously? It doesn’t behoove your personal motives to have Cleveland be competitive. You’re biased.
    That said, I think Mangini deserves another year. You don’t take a perennial 4-11 team and win the Super Bowl the next year very often. Cleveland is a bad team. Its going to take a year or two until they’re competitive, let alone ‘good’. Give it a rest with the out of context quotes, and criticizing of people for trying to keep their jobs.

  16. efangule says: Jan 1, 2010 3:49 PM

    Asked Friday whether the Browns have “something special’ about them like the 2001 Patriots, Mangini had this to say: “Well, once I realized that my job was in jeopardy, right before the Stealers game, I figured I had to come up with a cunning way to cheat to win. Similar to what happened to the Patriots when Drew Bledsoe went down. So far it’s gotten us 3 wins in a row. If we keep this up, we can cheat our way to 3 superbowl wins just like the Patriots.”

  17. brownsLB says: Jan 1, 2010 4:04 PM

    I’ll put a $1,000 that the undersized Troy Smith will NOT be with the Browns

  18. Bongodog says: Jan 1, 2010 4:12 PM

    Hey Florio… I changed from Sprint to Verizon this past week because of you.
    Go Browns!

  19. weird59 says: Jan 1, 2010 4:17 PM

    The browns need holgremm to sign GM Ron Wolf like in Green bay

  20. bigtrav425 says: Jan 1, 2010 4:41 PM

    This guy is a freakin TARD!

  21. KingKunal says: Jan 1, 2010 5:02 PM

    I wonder if next season he is going to be comparing his high school team the Maple Heights to the Pats next season.

  22. Route36West says: Jan 1, 2010 5:20 PM

    Posted by Mike Florio on January 1, “2010” 3:00 PM ET
    Yes, the Patriots, who have won one fewer Super Bowl title this decade than the Browns have won games this season.
    Um glad to know West Virginia public schools are really putting in the time to teach you hillbillies how to count.
    4-0=3 Is that what your telling me?
    The Browns have won 4 games this season while the Patriots have won 0 SuperBowls this decade.
    Now go get a bucket, some Maple syrup, and some snow and stick to what your good at.

  23. houstonsimpleton says: Jan 1, 2010 5:44 PM

    Holy crap. Who did Mangini pay to ask him the question? The comparison-to-the-Patriots question. Did he really ask it in public? In front of witnesses? Holy crap.

  24. BOO3LEGS says: Jan 1, 2010 6:16 PM

    Let’s simplify what a decade is. 10 consecutive years is a decade. It does not matter what the years are. It does not matter who the coach is for the years to come, because the idiot browns fans that I hear call local radio would not be happy if vince lombardi was the coach. Once the coach gets hired the fans will dig for any reason not to like him. This has happened to every coach since 99. Here is a good question, How many teams do you think like the coach they have?

  25. chunky soupy sales says: Jan 1, 2010 6:31 PM

    well, the Browns did beat the Steelers, so that’s Patriot- like.

  26. EskinSux says: Jan 1, 2010 8:43 PM

    And people compare apples to oranges……What’s your point?

  27. Richm2256 says: Jan 1, 2010 9:33 PM

    nniifu says:
    “Asked Friday whether the Browns have “something special’ about them like the 2001 Patriots, Mangini had this to say:”
    ASKED! See how simple that word looks? Sounds kind of funny too. However, I’d say it’s probably key in your failed theory that Mangini is kissing the bosses ass via the
    So because he was ASKED whether there were any similarities, it’s OK that he answered that there were???
    The only correct answer to that question is: “Are you f—ing kidding me??? That team won a Super Bowl; we’ve won a handful of games. There IS NO comparison. We suck, they didn’t”.
    Anything beyond that is self-serving and delusional. I bet the question was posed to see if he was stupid enough to answer it, which he obviously was.

  28. Dramacydal says: Jan 1, 2010 11:10 PM

    Seriously Florio, do you feel the need to twist everything Mangini says or the Browns do into something negative?
    The “4 game winning streak against non-playoff teams” comment is a joke. One of them was against the defending chumpion Steelers. A 4 game win streak is a 4 game win streak. They may not be upsetting the Colts, Saints and Chargers of the NFL, but those are the teams that lined up against them, and those are the teams they beat.

  29. trickbunny says: Jan 2, 2010 7:29 AM

    You PFT guys are such dicks.
    “****ASKED***** Friday whether the Browns have “something special’ about them like the 2001 Patriots, Mangini had this to say:”
    So let’s see. Some press goon asked Mangini, specifically, to compare his team to the Patriots, and
    you dickwads write a headline inferring that Mangini is doing it on his own.
    Now that’s some serious douchery. In fact, I’m shocked you even included the part about him being asked by the press to compare the two teams. Seems more like PFT to just start the story where Mangini started talking and act like he brought it up on his own.

  30. Maroussia says: Jan 27, 2010 7:15 AM

    It will be great to watch Super Bowl Package, i have bought tickets from looking forward to it.

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